Is Easter a pagan goddess?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Easter comes originally from the name of a pagan Anglo-Saxon goddess called Ēostre. This video tells you all there is to know about her and also looks at other Indo-European dawn goddesses around Europe and Asia to whom she is related!
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Happy Springtide! As someone who is named 'Dawn' I've always taken a liking to Eostre, Eos, etc. Another kenning for the dawn, or daybreak is 'Day-Spring.'
Love that!
That's why East is where the dawn rises from.
Thank you for this. I really appreciate your videos. I homeschool my kids, and your videos are a major source for teaching them history. I am just waiting for you to release the homeschool history curriculum for folks like us😉
Right! Haha!. My little girl isn't ready for school yet, but we will be homeschooling as well. My wife isn't a heathen/pagan like myself, but she isn't really Christian either. More or less personal spiritual if that makes sense. She does enjoy the history, and loves when I show her how Christianity messed with history for such a long time. 🍻
@@JacksonDunnoKnows It's not "Christian fundamentalists" who question if Bede invented the goddess Eostre, but most secular scholars. Tom is smearing an opposing viewpoint by poisoning the well. I'm extremely disappointed. I expected more from him.
Also, @savannahedwards-mcadam5490 Ostern, Eastrun, Eastron, Eastran, Eastru, Eastro, Eastre and Eostre are all just various Germanic forms of the direction "East", and not necessarily indicative of the name of a goddess.
Tom's got some good insights here, but be careful of treating it all as historical fact. There's a lot of gray on the subject. Do your own research before using this video, so that when you do show it to your kids you can provide additional context.
@@LittleLordFancyLad I’m sorry but I highly doubt secular historians are the ones with the opposing viewpoint. I won hundred percent agree it’s Christian fundamentalist mostly because I have a lot of them on my family that think that way so I don’t know where you’re getting that from sure there might be some people that are secular that might be opposed to it, but I highly doubt that’s the majority. If anything, I’ll crazy that’s the silent minority.
Also, if you guys are using this guy has a history teacher while I will agree that when it comes to history, this dude is a very excellent and knows what he’s talking about I would be Hella careful, I know you guys said that you guys are pagans or whatever, but I would be very careful, considering the fact that he is completing his information as a historian with his pig and this abuse, and the fact that he tends to put a little bit of racism and segregationalism in there is not a good thing…..
@@LittleLordFancyLadI didn’t see Tom smearing an opposing viewpoint here, merely compiling evidence for his stance. It’s not his job to meekly put forth the opinions of others. He has his own, and made a damn fine case for it.
If you have good evidence for a different perspective then consider making a video on the matter and I’m sure many would love to see the contrast, me included.
It's called "The great night" in Slovenian. I think that's quite neat.
everyone knows easter is when the cadbury easter bunny rolled the rock away from jesus' tomb, freeing him from humanities prison. and he was given special colored chocolate eggs because you'd be hungry too after 3 days with no food...
It is known.
So great to see another STJ video! Best Pagan content on RUclips!
Thank you Tom - you are doing such great work. You bring us back to the true and the transcendent.
Wonder what you think of Religion for Breakfast's video saying she never existed.
He relies on one contrarian linguist who knows bugger all about paganism
Actually he thinks that Eostre was a local goddess and probably existed though
A big thank you for your work Tom !!! Your videos are always highly interesting and well-researched !!! 👍
Greetings from Hungary
Thank you for posting this, and for doing such valuable research. I recently watched a video by some fool who maintained that Bede didn't know what he was talking about, and that there was no evidence for a goddess at springtime. This video of yours is quite heartening, and I am grateful for having watched it. Thousand thanks!
😊🌞
Because bede didn't know what he was talking about and there actually is no evidence for such a goddess ever even existing. This entire video was conjecture and wishful thinking tbh
@Simpicus Maximus
You claiming bede didn’t know what he was talking about is literally conjecture😒
@@coltondunham695yeah they're clearly espousing their own bias of their own worldviews and just dismissing evidence straight off the bat
@@simpicusmaximus Look while I personally don’t like Tom when he talks outside of history with this whole paganism, weird bullshit that he spews every once in a while this is where I’m gonna have to agree with his vans, and say that there is a truth to that because he explained it in many ways, the fact that you didn’t pay attention to that speaks volumes about what you’re talking about…
Vaugly heard of this before the Christians were claiming it’s a misspelling of Ishtar and the atheists sure as hell weren’t this knowledgable, Had no idea who was right at the time so just posted art of FGO’s version of Ishtar lol
Very important and intriguing information, I really like this kind of research.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I expect that the lack of a cognate for Freyja/Eostre in Norse Paganism and Anglo-Saxon Paganism respectively is probably related to the Freyja/Frigg question.
My theory is that in germanic paganism Freyja and Frigg would have been one goddess, while the goddess known to the Norse as Freyja would have been Ostara or some similar name. I'd guess that in Scandinavia the Norse tradition evolved such that the Ostara goddess became known as Freyja or that her original name may have been lost and only her title remains. And in the lower countries the Ostara goddess never received this renaming treatment which is why we see the Saxons bring Eostre into Britain rather than a cognate for Freyja.
Lots of love from a Hindu
(last surviving pagan civilization) ❤❤❤
last night I watched a video saying that there was no connection between this goddess and the dawn. This morning I wanted to see what you have said on the subject just to find a video on the same subject and several of the same points of physical evidence, the other lacked the linguistic analyst!
Norway never deviated from Jul for xmas, but use Påske for Easter.
Nice video, I didn't realise how relatively unique our English name Easter is for the holiday. I will be drinking some mead and eating some roast lamb to welcome in the spring this year!
Germans have it too I think
Germans still call Easter "Ostern"
Interesting but I don’t see how this undermines Christian easter
It would only show that the name easter derives from this Goddess
Unless I’m missing something
Lot of Christians, especially in the east just use their language equivalent of Passover/Pesach instead of any equivalent of "Easter".
@@padmad3832 good point
@@Jimmylad. jewish
@@padmad3832 in Latin America which is a highly Catholic continent we call it Pascua which comes from Pascha
@@Tzimiskes3506 And their academic references? I can also tell stuff on the internet, whether it's true, whether I have a clue, it doesn't matter.
Another terrific, informative and entertaining watch
This is excellent and very interesting..much better than religion for breakfast analysis as he didnt give very good reason
Einhard, in his 9th-century Life of Charlemagne, also includes the name "Ostarmanoth" as the original Frankish name for April.
Odin is my patron deity, but Freyja ranks second for me. I make offerings to Her regularly. Her association with love, fertility, and the rising sun are all beautiful and glorious things to consciously focus on and bring forth in your life as a man.
The word easter has pagan connotations, the holiday is descended from passover.
Excellent video. Scholarly and concise. I don't know if shoter or longer form content is better for STJ as a channel but I do think there is something to be said for how accessible vidoes of this length are.
I'd like a mix of both
Hahaha paska means s**** in finnish, maybe that's why it is called pääsiäinen 😆
Awesome as ever, Tom. Happy Easter.
Thanks so much
Dawn❤
also where the term East originated. due to the rising of sun
Hello Thom, any chance you could do some videos on how people are supposed to practice paganism?
he has a great video on how to pray to the gods!
He has some on that
"How to pray like a pagan" is one of his I think
While the educational videos are highly informative and entertaining, I have been dormant in my practice as I don't really know how to practice. The 'How to Pray like a Pagan' video is helpful, but not much. I have to be a solo practitioner as I'm surrounded by Christians and atheists; so a detailed guide would be nice. I guess I just miss the structure and order of the Catholic Church.
Edit: it also doesn't help that a lot of self-proclaimed pagans out there are leftist New Age types who are completely unreliable.
Amazing video as always
Glad you enjoyed
St Brigit's day is in February
Saints come later
Easter/may day/bealtaine is my favourite pagan topic
I knew you were going to respond to the latest ReligionForBreakfast's video hahaha, great
What is factual about the Easter/Eostre idea:
1.) Venerable Bede (673-735 CE) is the one and only source of claim of a goddess named Estroe and she was celebrated in April. Nothing else is known or exist about her. The name was not known until Bede's work, The Reckoning of Time. The earliest recorded Easter celebration is found in the 2nd century. (Encyclopedia Britannica: EASTER)
2.) Jacob Grimm (1785-1863 CE) 1/2 of the Brothers Grimm, seemed to have supported Bede's claim by comparing localized Germanic mythologies and language etymologies. He gave the name Ostara to the goddess Eostre and came up with the conclusion that there ''MUST'' have been a goddess, but stops short of saying there ''IS'' a goddess. As like Eostre, nothing is known about Ostara.
3.) Matronae Austriahenae monuments with/without inscriptions (2/3 CE) in Rhineland - western Germany. Almost nothing is known about the Cult of Matronae and all the information has come from the 1,100 Stone monuments. For example: The altar of Q. Vettius Severus translated into English:
To the Mothers of Aufania, Q. Vettius Severis, quaestor of the colony of Cologne, freely and deservedly fulfills his vow, Macrinus and Celsus being consuls.
4.) The use of words that do not indicate concrete evidence such as but not limited to, suggest, perhaps, could and at the time of 2:34 the host of the video uses the word ''MAY.'' '' There are also place names (names of places) that may attest to her worship in England...''
So just the word "Easter" itself? Then yes.
The stuff about Jesus dying on the cross and three days later ascending therefore the flesh becoming the word again, then no.
No of course not
Yes, you came up with worshipping divine mothers and blood all on your own.
hebrew nonsense
@@Survivethejive it’s so cool you replied to me. I’m a huge fan of your work. 👍🏻❤️❤️
Fantastic!
Have you ever visited Jorvik Viking Centre Tom, and if so what did you think of it?
No
i saw somewhere that the Norse word for April was Austrmonþ or something like that. If that's so, could one argue that Austra or something could be a name for Freyja?
Hadn't considered that
The name does, but not the celebration itself. Assuming of course you're referring to the Christian holiday.
Is there any relation of Easter to Babylonian goddess Esther or Astarte ?
None
Not really
I've been seeing a lot of ppl make videos saying she isn't even real to begin with.
Lot of cope
I read that this goddess is only said as an hypothesis by Beda and from a words trick from Grimm brothers. So actually it seems more a wiccan invention than somenthing else. Do you think some toponomastic demonstrates this goddess existed ? really?
watch the video
The only testament to this goddess comes from Bede which only states that the word Easter is derived from her. Any further information on the nature of this goddess comes from speculation alone. This speculation varies from educated guesses to made up fantasies.
I did , that’s why I wrote a critic.
@@lucapandini909 Rewatch the video
@@stowlicters8362 don't you think it's very weak your argument just using cognate names of the down goddess? It's disputable and there is no ancient artefact connected to such a presumable wide spread and long lasting cult, isn't it? the roman epighraph hardly demonstrates anything about Ostara , it could be connected to the geographical region name. I've nothing against a possible Ostara goddess , or to the pagan origins of Eastern (many gods like Attis for example died and after 3 days resuscitated ). But I find not so much convincing the argument for Ostara, as I'd like having a mosaic, an artefact, or a text in latin, or in the Edda, something more than conjectures .
Best pagan content on youtube!
I don't know if this is the proper place to ask, but what makes Christianity theologically inferior to paganism?
Did you hurt your arm with how much you were reaching in this video?
Where is the reach?. He's comparing her with cognate goddesses in related religions
@@danieldelaney1377 he doesn't understand
0:45 Now that's an assumption on your part left for you to prove. What is more likely, that a cult of eostara "lingered on", or that people simply just referred to the christian holyday after the month in which it occured.
Keep the flow of knowledge coming forth. In this world of corruption, narratives, and lies, hearing The Truth of purposely hidden knowledge is a direct confrontation to those who spent the last centuries destroying our culture. Alfǫðr would be proud, to see us striving for hidden knowledge, while simultaneously reawakening our ancestors pride in us. Continue to be the Scald and lagman, for us here in RUclipsLandia.
I really hope you’re not that guy that says that it’s love those who destroy paganism, cause I’m damn sure the one to destroyed your “culture” was Christians, and not leftist…
The song, this supposed to be group sang in the advertisement.... just before the video about the pagan goddess... why did they even have the Black male with this group? He wasn't allowed to sing the way the other members all got a chance to sing. He was allowed to only sing a few words. I wouldn't even allowed myself to be used as a token...just for show.
The resemblance to the name of the goddess Astarte is just a coincidence?
There is no real resemblance and yes its coincidence. That's not Indo-European
Can her name somehow be connected to the word “East”?
Yes it is
excellent stuff
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We celebrate Easter because of our lord Jesus resurrection on Easter Sunday, three days after his day by crucifixion on Good Friday.
I see the Eostre/Eos connection but for the Norse, I thought Dellingr was the god of Dawn as said in the Poetic Edda/Prose
Mardoll is likely related to Dellingr
Short answer: yes
Longer answer: this video
Actual answer: no.
Freya Esther Ransen is my goddess
Ransen?
Some of the customs and symbols associated with Easter have their roots in pre-Christian traditions. For example, the Easter Bunny and exchanging eggs can be traced back to pagan rituals that celebrated fertility and new life. Eggs, in particular, have been a symbol of fertility and rebirth since ancient times, and they played a significant role in many spring festivals. The tradition of decorating eggs, known as pysanky, has been practised by Eastern European cultures for centuries.
The Easter Bunny is believed to have originated from the Germanic tradition, where the hare was associated with the goddess Eostre. Hares and rabbits were considered symbols of fertility due to their prolific breeding habits. German immigrants brought this tradition to America in the 18th century, and over time the Easter Bunny became a popular figure associated with the holiday.
Another popular Easter custom is the Easter egg hunt, in which children search for hidden eggs, often filled with candy or small toys. This activity is thought to have evolved from the ancient custom of searching for eggs in the spring as a symbol of new life.
Easter is also a time when many people enjoy special foods, such as hot cross buns, which are sweet rolls marked with a cross to represent the crucifixion of Jesus. In many countries, lamb is a traditional Easter meal, symbolizing the sacrificial Lamb of God.
Easter celebrations often include religious services, such as the Easter Vigil, held the night before Easter Sunday. During this service, candles are lit to represent the light of Christ entering the world, and the congregation renews their baptismal vows. Easter Sunday itself is marked by festive church services and the singing of hymns that celebrate the resurrection of Jesus.
In summary, the origins of Easter are a blend of pre-Christian and Christian traditions. The holiday has evolved to include a mix of religious observances and cultural customs that celebrate the renewal of life, Jesus Christ's resurrection, and spring's arrival.
Thanks!
No problem! And thank you
Ostara is the origin for the name of the country Austria
More they are decended from the same word for "East"
@@Sednethal yupperz !
No it means eastern Reich
what was Jesus' favorite Chocolate??
Probably the no sugar 100% cacao type.
Yes and most Christian holidays are actually pagan holidays
Thanks for the video. The annual anti-Ostera offensive by Christian RUclipsrs alone shows that they know what we know. The fact that apart from the service everything is pagan at Easter (and therefore everything that is fun for them) annoys them and that is why this offensive.
As a Christian, I can't understand why some Christians would be afraid of understanding the pagan roots of our beliefs.
@@musashidanmcgrath like most atheists, you have a strawman of Christianity in your mind that you use to justify your own (unjustified) feelings of superiority.
Jesus spoke the truth to an empire of lies, which is why he was killed. But his truth was real, hard truth, which could not be destroyed, which is why it eventually took over most of the world.
I am not afraid of any truth, because the truth is what brings me closer to God.
I believe that God spoke the world into being. That means that I believe that everything that is true (the world) is the word of God. To fear the truth, therefore, is to fear the word of God.
Therefore I do not fear the truth, and any Christian that does is not a true believer.
If you truly believe something, then you will not fear those who try to disprove it, because you already know that they will fail.
Truth is infinitely stronger than lies, because the whole universe proves every truth, while lies are limited to the finite ability of the liar to warp reality.
I agree, there's no reason for us as Christians to fret. It's just that in this case there is no pagan origin of Christian _beliefs_ . The only connection is the name for the holiday, not the _origin_ of the holiday.
Bro, I’m sorry but is this like a stupid question? Are you seriously asking that? Did you forget that the reason why all pagan festivals and rituals and traditions were destroyed was because of the corruption and influence from sad religions do you like forget about that on the way or some thing? Did you forget that the reason why Christianity is a big thing and paganism is not is because Christians were assigned to destroy and not be influenced or manipulated by pagan religions did you seriously forget about that?
@@djprincegrandmasteryrjdalo2905 Like most self-righteous athiests, you unquestioningly believe everything you can find that makes christianity look bad.
Christianity mostly spread through voluntary conversions. The old gods weren't as compelling as Christ, because Christ is true and stands up to scrutiny. Many Pagan idols and practices were destroyed, and some of that wasn't just, but overwhelmingly the people of Europe chose to be christian.
Odin died when the Odin mens' sons heard the Gospel and found it to be more true. Nobody forced the Vikings to convert, the Church spread because it was recognized as better by the Scandinavian people.
Iconoclasm has it's tragic side: the destruction of history. The catch is that destruction of idols is a great way to prove that they have no power.
The good part of old traditions survived. Easter was a pagan festival that lined up reasonably well in time with the time of year that Jesus came back from death, so many of it's customs were incorporated into the celebration of the ressurection.
@@sirzorg5728 I’m confuse here are you defending or are you for Christianity because it seems that you’re also for pagan religion but also Christianity and that does not work it will never work in your world. Because the point is is that Christians in Christianity despises paganism and vice versa they will never be a world where Christianity and paganism and hold hands and walk off in the sunset like you think. And by the way, I’m not an atheist I’m a agnostic theist.
lol, lmao.
it's older & even more pagan than you report. it goes back to Sumer ! Molochs' wife is named Ishtar, also a dawn / Spring / fertility goddess. they would gather eggs & rabbits (as fertility symbols), and on night of the 1st full moon following the Vernal equinox, they would slaughter the rabbits & dye the eggs red in their blood, children would find the eggs next morning & bring them to the feast celebration. sound familiar ?
🤣 none of that is true
There is zero way culturally and especially linguistically to connect Easter with Ishtar.
@@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 Why do you say that, because one is in Europe and the other is west Asia? If so, that's not a strong argument, because the people of Europe's ancestors were not confined to Europe. There are numerous cases of clearly European phenotypes also being far away from Europe up until a couple thousand years ago.
@@stephenodubhlaoich
Easter derives from Ēostra; the Anglo-Saxon name variation of the West Germanic goddess of dawn and spring. Indeed, an entire month was dedicated to her; namely April (originally, Ēosturmônað). The etymology of her name comes from the Indo-European root word *hewsôs, meaning “to shine, glow red” -a reference to dawn. In Proto-Germanic, the name has been reconstructed as *Austrô(n). To the early Germans, she was Ostara, from which modern German gets “Oster” for Easter. Ēostra’s name has also given us the name of the cardinal direction “East”, many placenames in England, and even a few female first names (none of which I believe are used anymore).
Ishtar, or to use the Hebrew variation, Ashtarot, comes from the root word meaning “to increase” (quite different from the Indo-European root). In her earliest form, she was seen as a goddess of grain, or grain increase. Over time, she became a goddess associated with sexual love and war; _not_ fertility as many assert.
Two completely different deities. Two completely different origins. Two completely different meanings. Ther eis zero way to connect the two linguistically.
Eostre was a dawn goddess, Ishtar was a grain goddess and later became a goddess of war and sexual love. Neither were ever associated with fertility.
@@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 Ok, that's a much stronger argument than saying "one is Europe, one is not" which is typically what I see as the arguments for these things.
Dude, in practice all "Christian" holidays are actually pagans, from Christmas to Easter. Paganism based influence skyfatherpilled moment!
Dude, in reality no Christian holidays are pagan.
@@Tzimiskes3506 always find the term "Larpagan" extremely amusing, because nobody larps the Roman Empire, ancient Greece and especially Jewish culture as harshly as Christianity.
Happy to celebrate Easter. But after church it's over. All customs are pagan.
@@Tzimiskes3506 Yewlarp read again. Celebrate Easter in peace. But all customs are pagan. Dye eggs, hide things in the garden, Easter shrub. All not Christian. Go to the service, after that do nothing.
And great "civilization" brought the Christards. Almost 2000 years after the Romans, it was only possible to build safe bridges over the Rhine and Moselle again.
First
First Fruits?
Does Easter have Satanic roots if it is a Pagan Godess and Holiday? Yes. But why?
2:08 coincides with the fact that "Inanna", a mesopotamian Godess who is called "Ashera" In Jeremiah
is also a "Son of God" as described in Genesis 6:1-4 (Son= progeny/ of God = Skyfather, Creator).
She/He/They*, as the supreme Fallen Ange bears the [false] title "Queen of Heaven", and is mostly referred to as "Ha Satan" and "Helel" (Lucifer) in Christianity and Judaism.
This would make Haeusos or Eostre misrepresentations of one and the same entity: the Angel "Satan"; who in antiquity was worshipped as a God/cohort of YHWH by the deceived.
* Angelic Spirits themselves have no defined Gender; and only their appearances are rendered "ish" or "anthropos" in hebrew and greek respectively.
Shaytan is a Jewish myth borrowed from Iran. This goddess is much older than that rubbish
Ah yes use middle eastern mythology to demonize a Germanic pagan belief
Do you think your calendar is christian?
Christmas is the winter solstice,
Easter is Ostara, Halloween is Samhain, Valentines day is Imbolc, May day is Beltane, Tuesday is Tyr's day, Wednesday is Woden's (Odens) day, Thursday is Thor's day, Friday is Freya's day, Saturday is Saturn's day, Sunday is the sun's day, Monday is the moon's day
Yor calendar is PAGAN 🤭
This can only be used for the english speaking folk tho
True. But when it comes to the weekdays it's almost the same in Scandinavia. In Sweden for example it's Måndag (månens dag, moons day), Tisdag (Tyrs dag, Tyr's day), Onsdag (Odens dag, Woden,s day), Torsdag (Tors dag, Thor's day), Fredag (Frejas dag, Freya's day), Söndag (The sun goddes Sunna/Sunnes dag)
@@soderlund3610 tru but thats the thing with the germanic speaking people. You wont however see that with the slavs, we in croatia for example call easter "uskrs" which comes from the word "uskrsnuće" (resurrection) nothing to do with our pagan gods such as Perun or Svarog. Now I don't have any ill intent for you or your faith which I assume is pagan, but such arguments have been flying around the net for years.
@@entirehorz8327 I don't really belong to any religious community at all 🙂, but i'm very interested in history. However, I don't like how the church took over our pagan traditions and made them theirs. For instace christmas (jul), Lucia (Ljósi/Lussi), Påsk (Easter) and alot more. But, i guess that's how you "take over" a people: take over their traditions
Yes, for sure, except that it's Groundhog Day that is Imbolc.
it originates from the old Norse Pagan just like every other holiday Christian have steal from pagans.
No, Easter comes from Jesus Christ. The word "Easter" comes from paganism, yes.
And we just randomly named it after the
Pagan Goddess. Aha
Lol
@@JDKDKDLDKDKDKDKKKDERYY hmmm 🤔 maybe both were celebrated same day so used same name
I am not Christian but he has a point in the Abrahamic context of Easter celebrations. Though I would suggest a correction in that Easter came from the roman Paul/Saul as his version of Christianity prevailed over the apostles and Jesus' own brother.
In Judaism around the same time Pesach is observed. Also note- Easter/Eostre is not used even within the whole of Germanic nations, a lot of countries have a variation of Pasech/Pasen as the name for this celebration.
so yes it comes from a pagan goddess. cope hard
Your entire argument is that you think the word Easter sounds similar to various dawn goddesses, like Eos/Aurora from Greek/Roman myth. And that this similar sound is proof there was a cult even though no historical proof exists? And that she was a MAJOR goddess, yet her attributes can only be guessed at? Where is the archeological evidence of her? Where is the ancient jewelry and art covered in her symbols? It doesn’t exist. But. Even if the Germanic language name for the season of spring is based on a pagan name, that has no bearing on the reality of Christ’s Resurrection. You even acknowledge that everywhere else uses names based on the Hebrew word for Passover (the Last Supper immediately before the crucifixion was Jesus and the apostles celebrating Passover), the Germanic language groups are an outlier. That doesn’t mean Easter/Pasha is somehow based on goddess worship, at most it shows that Christian language didn’t take as deeply in that region.
No I do not think they sound similar at all. Ausrine does not sound like Eos. They are cognate words though, which means they can be demonstrably shown, based on rules of sound changes in different languages, to derive from the same word.
Christianity is the ultimate religion of infighting, making people go to war and even attempt genocide of their own people just because they worship different, realer Gods. They then destroy history and subvert traditions.
They don't "sound similar" they are linguistic cognates
If you believe in thr God of thr Bible, we should celebrate Passover as Jesus and His disciples did. Not modern traditions of men mixed with paganism called Easter. Nothing against pagans, but if you believe in the God of the bible, follow His commands, not man's.
You're on the wrong channel. Go back to venerating your rabbi's blood and mother.
Men with tiny hats wrote the bible. You're as carnal and man serving as anyone else, bud.
hebrew nonsense. go move to israel.
The Commands in bible were not written by God but by many men that no one really even knows for certain who. Read some professors of theololgy. Its a book based on some truth rehashed caananite pagan myths. And some symbolic fiction ie talking snakes. I got this from various theology professors including a jewish theology.professor who has a youtube channel
Sir, I don’t know if this is your first time or anything, but this dude is a paganist, specifically an Odinist (main god of Norse mythology), so yeah, he’s not gonna follow anything you’re gonna say…
I do appreciate the longer videos that you do to fully explore the origins of our culture, but this was very concise and to the point.
Thanks for helping to keep the history alive!
1:16 Short correction:
Even most Germans don't know that, but as all traditional Germanic words (excluding some verbs with prefixes) are stressed on the first syllable, the Name Ōstara has to be pronounced with a long ō.
This was normal in OHG, but sounds strange in modern German.
Therefore most people pronounce it wrong... It also makes the name sound less German in a way, which makes it also believable that it's a fabrication.
Jacob Grimm also mentioned an early modern version of the name: "Ostra", which is much better pronounceable in modern German.
I would favour this orthography.
I would not rule out that the goddess was called Ostara. Easter is called Oschtere in some Alemannic dialects (see the RUclips video "Happy Easter in Swiss German").
Calling Ostara Oschtere is no problem, but it still has to be stressed on the first syllable when pronounced.
I just saw the video. She clearly stresses the first syllable when pronouncing "Oschtere".
This just shows that Swiss German can be more archaic than modern German, as prouncing Ōstara in modern German is mostly done wrong.
It means that the name already sounded archaic to German people who tried revived it.
Swiss German, on the other hand, has no problem with these Old High German words, which is no wonder because Old High German originated from the southern dialects.
I don't think there is a single christian holiday that's not connected with a pagan counterpart. Here in Poland even the small ones are pretty obviously pagan in nature.
Rajiv Malhotra has rightly termed cultural digestion.
And if you keep complaining about it, we'll take over shark week and toyotathon too.
Small hats aren't original they just take the hosts traditions and morph it into something that better serves their interests. jewsus sheep lord guiding the gentiles to the small hat shepherd farm.
More correct to say the Christians simply appropriated them and sometimes changed the name to some "saint"
@@sethapex9670 You boys are having a hard time keeping control of your churches to try it 😂
Thank you for your important work!
Freyja's epithet Mardöll probably means "sea-brightener" and adds evidence for her identity as a goddess of dawn rising from the ocean.
For those who understand German we have uploaded a paper on this subject in the Abholfach of our website.
I agree absolutely. Also her name gefn is likely the same as gefeon which in old English refers to the sea. She is daughter of Njord the sea god became the dawn rises from the sea
Interesting concept: if the winter solstice is the midnight of the year, and spring is the dawn of the year, then the dawn in spring is the dawn of dawns.
The Iranian Nowruz starts right at the time of spring equinox 🙂
1:45 i am a little confused here. You say Beltane, but the festival of Brigid is Imbolc and she is connected to the fire of Kildare, not the fire of Uisneach.
I think Beltane and Imbolc represent a cleavage in two of what was once one festival of the Dawn. This is why some cognate Pagan festivals occur at the beginning of Spring, and some at Midsummer
Is there a connection between "East" in "Easter" and the fact that the sun rises in the east?
Yes. In geeman east is ost abd the godess is ostara
And she's a dawn godess
This analysis feels shaky to me. It is an argument based on cognates, basically. That Easter is connected to Auster is easily explained in exclusively Christian terms; you don’t need to invoke a (non documented) pagan theological frame to explain it. Moreover, you say ‘fundamentalist’ Christians (what does that mean?) say Bede is the only explicit attestation for Eostre being a worshipped deity - but, they’re not wrong. Not at all. Grimm’s account is a reconstruction. Not just that but bede ‘making her up’ remains a valid possibility - he himself admits that the practice had died out. He was reporting something WAY out of memory. You don’t believe he’s right about King Lucius being an early Christian king do you? Such that pagan accounts of British history are wrong? He was capable of being mistaken.
Again, the eostre stuff is not theologically substantive - there is no good reason to think a deity lies behind all this linguistic reconstruction. That’s the only question that counts because ultimately it stops us claiming such silly things as ‘Easter was originally pagan’. There’s no evidence for that. Auster is a reference to the dawn, which, again, makes sense as a reference to the resurrection of Christ. You don’t need to posit some conveniently undocumented pagan goddess.
People get horny in the spring, just like the animals. Facts.
I've been having to keep my dog on the lead all the time, yestermorning he ran off towards a main road after a bitch.
@@nullgravity2583 Spring has sprung.💖
Like many things if it depends on the spirit behind the reason why you celebrate it or hold that day as special. If your celebrating it in remembrance of the Lord Jesus their is nothing wrong with it. Even tho it might not be the time of year or day it happened it matters what you're worshiping❤🙏😻🙌 Praise Jesus God bless
I celebrate the goddess Easter
@@Survivethejive I'm sorry to hear that. Jesus is the only one who can save us. That's the only one who can deliver us from sin and give us life forever. Please consider have a good day.🙏❤
@@williammatson9238 this is a thinly veiled insult, anti intellectual, anti rational, mindless as usual from you Christ cucks. You're an embarrassment to the west and European people's more generally, passively accepting a foreign Jewish cult which was deliberately designed for gullible goy like yourself. Have a nice day yourself with your delusions. Btw this is it, your only life and noone, not even your fake Jewish Messiah is coming to save you
@@williammatson9238 I don’t know if you realize this, but he’s a paganist, an Odinist. Has in his Lord and Savior is Odin, and not God. I’m kind of surprised you haven’t figured that out already considering the amount of paganist propaganda, he puts in his videos……
Good work as always brother.
Thoughts on Religion for Breakfast's video?
He relies on one contrarian linguist who knows bugger all about paganism. Eastry being a cult centre is not supported by any evidence. There are other names in Yorkshire as I show in this video
@@Survivethejive But do you concede or not that Easter as a celebration is indeed Christian in origin and is not, as many of your pagan friends here stubbornly continue to affirm, a pagan celebration later hijacked by Christians?
The answer to this question will determine your intellectual honesty.
@@AitorAxat christians undoubtedly have always honoured the death of jesus. this was not always made to coincide with pesach, even in Bede's time there were different dates it was celebrated. However the English have always celebrated Easter in April.
@@AitorAxat i thought easter was after first full moon after spring equinox so that makes it pagan.
@@janeslater8004 1. The moon is not pagan in and of itself. Nature as a whole is not pagan and pagans do not have any ownership of nature. So a celebration that follows the moon in any capacity does not smkr it pagan.
2. Easter does not follow the moon at all anyway. It follows the Jewish celebration of Passover, since the Last Supper was a Passover meal and Jesus' resurrection happens 3 days later starring from Passover. And it is Passover itself that moves throughout the years so Easter follows it as well, that's why it's not always on the same date like Christmas.
Damn, just as i watched Religion For Breakfast's video about it debunking it. As someone who has no expertise in it myself, i have no idea what to really believe.
Personally i think that yes the name of Easter in English is from a pagan background, but i don't believe Easter itself is derived from Paganism. Especially because only the English have a unique name like that for it (in the Netherlands we just call it Pasen).
I was about to watch that one when I saw that Survive the Jive had one as well, so I saw this one instead, since I think that Survive the Jive has better expertise about Germanic and Indo-European religion in general.
@@VisionStorm1 Yeah Religion For Breakfast was kind of dissapointing with how little in depth he actually went with it.
why then would christians use a pagan name for a new, christian festival? it doesn't add up
@@kimashitawa8113 yeah just saying that her name probably just means east and didn't look at the related faiths.
@@devreed5931 I thought it was common knowledge that it was derivative of Ishtar..that's what I have always heard at least
Is there enough information out there to create or reignite a religion from our pagan ancestors?
Yes but that depends on how much spiritual fulfilment you want out if it
Why would you want to? Formal religions are motivated by people thinking they need to control groups of people.
Seeing as Freyja is also the daughter of Njörðr to the Norse who is a sea god, every morning at dawn the first surface that the sun passes is the sea level. Every morning the Lady Easter comes from her father the sea. Germanic peoples are also very coastal tending and seafaring folks so they would definitely have some esoteric conceptualization of this.
I agree but not necessarily esoteric
I was just wondering if you’d put anything out recently and this popped up. Perfect! 🍻
Can tell about Origin of Getae / Geto
( Geto-dacian/Daxia) Massa-getae Thyssa-Getae ?
So the Iranian Nowruz is Indo European too! 🙂
Yes
Yes, literally
Astarte.
So, is there a linguistic connection between Eostre and the word "east?" I mean, the sun rises, at dawn, in the east, so it would make sense. Is that really just a coincidence?
Yes they are cognate
@@Survivethejive Ah, I thought so. Thanks.
Thank you for all the great work you do. You've passed on some very important knowledge over the years. Well researched and tons of hard work. You've opened up a world of wisdom for many folks. Thank you for keeping our ancient traditions alive.
Much appreciated
Yes thank u
PG Austrōn was the name for the spring equinox, more specfically the celebration held on that day. More likely it is derived from PG *austran, *auzran, a schwebeablaut form of *wazran, meaning "spring". Any connection to "dawn" or a dawn diety is unfounded, and should be rejected. That all being said, it doesn't preclude Austrōn being personified as a spring diety, as the personification of nature is "very Indo-European".
Germanic people had a lunar-solar calendar with celebrations on lunar phases so Austron was unlikely to refer to the equinox. No celebration of the equinox is attested in any Germanic culture. More likely it was on the full moon of Eastermonth
@@Survivethejive the year for Germanic pagans was divided into both solstices and equinoxes, and to cite Sanders (2015) The Christianization of the Germanic Tribes, they "held festivals and rituals based on the equinoxes as well; the Yule celebration in particular was important to them."
Ostara in Dutch
Dutch is just swamp German