I want you all to know I could change the title to July, but I won't. The shame I have wrought upon myself should not, nay, cannot be forgotten. Edit: fuck it.
This will be my first smt game I’m really excited just finished persona 5 hopefully I can get use to the Combat system Also is it true that Dante Sparda is in smt 3
@@grkfunn5821 Dante was in the North America release of the PS2 game. It seems the HD Remaster will be of the Maniax Chronicle Edition, where Raidou Kuzuhoha will be around instead of Dante. Since Atlus brought news of the release of Nocturne HD Remaster out of nowhere and took us all by surprise ... there is no telling if Atlus will have Dante in the game or not since Atlus KNOWS that Dante is popular on perhaps a worldwide scale. I hope that Atlus could AT LEAST have Dante as DLC, if they do not have him in the game already. The battles are given a Press Turn Icon system. If you have seen any gameplay of the battles, you will see four blue icons in the upper-right corner of the screen. Those are the Press Turn Icons. Each time you land a CRITICAL or use a skill an enemy or boss is WEAK against ... a Press Turn Icon will flash. To the normal minimum, you have four turns ... but could have anywhere up to eight turns if you hit an enemy or boss with what they are WEAK to. The enemy takes more damage. If your enemy has a Void/Null Fire and you use a Fire skill on it, you will lose two PTI, regardless if they are flashing or not. The enemy will suffer no damage. If you have two PTI or less, it will become Enemy Turn. If the enemy has has Repel Fire, and you hit it with Fire. You lose all remaining PTI, it then becomes Enemy Turn. The enemy suffers no damage, but you will. If the enemy has Fire Drain and you hit it with Fire. You lose all remaining PTI, it then becomes Enemy Turn. The demon is healed, and you suffer no damage. What holds true for the enemy holds true for you as well. Null = You suffer no damage. Enemy side loses two PTI. It then becomes your turn. Repel = You suffer no damage. The enemy loses all remaining PTI, it becomes your turn. The enemy takes damage. Drain = You are healed by the attack. The enemy loses all remaining PTI, it becomes your turn. The enemy suffers no damage. WEAK = You take more damage than normal. The enemy gets an extra turn (one flashing PTI).
@@mrsalty6884 i agree with you with the whole port thing but i think it's fine to ask for a game to get translated considering there was alot of excitement around it but i would be fine to wait on it if SMT 5 came out first
@@Gloomdrake but for real tho , we need true og final fantasy , bc for me the franchise became a "meh" since ff13 , we need sum ff6 level of lore , ff10 level of emotions and ff 12 gameplay content
SMT: Can I have a turn with the new games? Persona: No. SMT: But you already have so many games! Persona: I don't care, I want more. SMT: Daaaad! Persona won't let me have a turn! Atlus: Persona, let SMT release a new game. Persona: And what are you gonna do if I don't? Atlus: Do it, or I won't release P5 Scramble in the west. Persona: Darn it. Fiiiiiiine... SMT: Yaaaaay!
I got the feeling that like Shin megami tensei V will do to the franchise what Skyrim did to the Elder Schrolls. If even a casu like me know this franchise now, millions will come and gather.
Tho i hate that smt fandom will probably persona fandom all over again (i heard old persona fans was having hard time with the newer ones), at least atlus will milk beloved smt cow if that happens
As a Persona fan, I'm here to say that I'm very happy for the SMT community. You guys deserve it. If it wasn't for your franchise, mine wouldn't have existed.
Thank you! You have got the be one of the VERY FEW Persona fans who understand that. A lot of other Persona fans act like Persona games are better and refuse to even play a single SMT game to see how awesome they are in their own way. From what I have come to understand from playing the Persona games is how ones like 3, 4, 5 and 5 Royal are about daily life with a twist for the supernatural. Players can put their selves into the shoes of the MCs and allow them to build their social circle as they see fit as well as see what life is like in a Japanese school (to some extents, like with activities and whatnot). These games gives players a sense of a reality within each game. As for the SMT games, each have their own fictional story that leans into the dark, morbid and perhaps gritty with some messed up elements in each one. For example ... In Nocturne, Sakahagi skins his own kind and wears their skin as clothes. In Digital Devil Saga, the way to survive means devouring enemies ... which means cannibalism, cannibalism and more cannibalism. In Digital Devil Saga 2, one of the bosses prefers 12 year old meat. Jenna Angel is revealed to be Sera's father (already known to be her mother) ... which makes her a hermaphrodite. In Digital Devil Saga 1, players are led to believe that Serph is a good guy and that Heat becomes a bad guy (Heat changing from good to bad starts in 1 and evident in 2) ... only to realize that in the real life of 2 - Heat was a good guy who opposed how cruel Serph actually was. In Devil Summoner, when Raidou takes the cyborg body of Rasputin to Victor, Victor tells Raidou that he removed Rasputin's unnecessary parts ... which was his penis - which actually happened to the Rasputin in real life. In Devil Summoner 2, by taking one of the cases, Raido (the Devil Summoner from a different reality/dimension) enters Sakuradayama through an interdimensional rift (for a lack of a better term) and is followed by Mara - a chariot riding penis demon. All in all, both series have qualities that make them some of the best games around ... and have the potential to be timeless classics in gaming history.
@@platinumskulls4490 Okay. Here is the best way to answer that question. That is if you mean to select what your summoned demons do while in battle. SMT III: Nocturne ------------------------------ Type: Turn-Based RPG Full Control: YES. Downside: If the MC dies ... Game over - even if the demons you summoned are still alive. Fusion: YES SMT IV SMT IV: APOCALYPSE -------------------------------------- Type: Turn-Based RPG Full Control: YES. Fusion: YES SMT: Digital Devil Saga SMT: Digital Devil Saga 2 ------------------------------------------ Type: Turn-Based RPG Full Control: YES. Upside: You can change Skills at any time (outside of battle). Say if your next boss is WEAK to Ice. You can equip Ice skills to exploit the weakness of the boss to make the battle real easy. Fusion: NOT AVAILABLE SMT: Devil Summoner SMT: Devil Summoner 2 ----------------------------------------- Type: Strategy RPG Full Control: YES Fusion: YES (Note that Devil Summoner and Devil Summoner 2 are NOT turn-based, and NOT strategy RPG. Look up a video of any battle from either game on RUclips to understand what I mean.) SMT: Devil Survivor SMT: Devil Survivor 2 SMT: Devil Survivor 2 Director's Cut ----------------------------------------------------------- Type: Strategy RPG Full Control: YES Fusion: YES SMT: Strange Journey SMT: Strange Journey Redux ------------------------------------------------- Type: Dungeon Crawler Turn-Based RPG Full Control: YES Fusion: YES
@@platinumskulls4490 If you have a Nintendo Switch, choosing between III HD Remaster or V could be as easy as flipping a coin and choosing what you choose for heads, and what you choose for tails. In Nocturne, not only can you fuse demons to create stronger demons, some evolve. Fusion result demons can learn skills from the two demons used in Fusion, if you do not like the skills the Fusion result demon can have, you can back out and recheck the inherited skills. Think of it as a reroll. Just like what stat increases a Persona might get from a Fusion Result (depending on how much EXP the Social Link/Confidant Rank will give to make the resulting Persona to be at a higher level). Say the resulting Persona you want focuses more on using magic, but you want it to have more Vitality and Agility ... but one of the stat increases is Strength, you could do the reroll process until you get the stat increases you are satisfied with. But if you want to play a SMT game well before the release of III HD Remaster and V ... If you have a 3DS, you could choose Devil Survivor Overclocked (I forgot that title). DSO plays generally the same as Devil Survivor, but has voice acting. I think it has a few extras, but I cannot remember, it has been a long time since I played that one. There is Devil Survivor 2 Director's Cut (which has more story and more bosses). I never got to play that one, so I am not sure if there are more demons. Strange Journey Redux has more story, more bosses and a new character. I do not want to leave spoilers. There are things about the SMT games that sst them apart from the Persona series, and vice-versa. Nocturne has an element in which the choices you make throughout determine the ending you get. There are about six endings. Digital Devil Saga 2 has one difference near on the last part of the game, it depends on two particular choices you make in DDS2 ... and two in DDS1. I only played Devil Summoner and Devil Summoner 2 once before my PS2 stopped reading every disk (game disk, music CD and DVD). I am not sure if those games have different endings or just one for each game. When I played SMT IV, I had to go through a series of fusions just to create Asura what was a powerful Physical attacker with a high Strength stat, but had a decent Magic stat for him to use Agidyne several times, and made sure for him to have a passive skill known as Drain Ice so that any time he was hit by an Ice attack, he would heal instead of taking serious damage since he was normally weak to Ice. I gave him Charge so that his next attack was brutal. I also had him with other skills that brought out his full potential. It took lots of Macca, having to summon this demon and that demon to create this demon and that demon, so on and so on. I made a list of what Skills I wanted Asura to have, and checked to see which demons had those skills, I fused them with demons of the right race and level just to make sure that by then time I could fuse the final two demons to create, I had all of the skills necessary in order to make Asura perfect. That was just ONE demon, I then had to that over and over until my entire roster was filled with all of my favorite demons ... each one perfected with the right set of skills for each one. I then had to max out their stats by grinding for Incense, in the end - it was more than worth it.
As much as I love Persona, I totally needed a friendship cleanse after playing SMT4 Apocalypse lol Fingers crossed SMT5 will be just as good as the other mainline titles! Also can't wait to see Raidou beat my ass in glorious HD with voice acting!
@@jokertheshinobineko2258 Tbh the gameplay is good and characters are fine, it's just the companionship/individuality routes are kinda generic, don't have much gameplay divergence and aren't as morally conflicting as the law/chaos/neutral/extra routes in other SMTs. The player's moral compass is so restricted compared to the rest of the series that you're basically forced to make a generic good vs evil choice between in the classic struggle between the Power of Friendship and Selfish Villainy... which is alreadt a pretty tired and heavy-handed theme in anime/video games as it is. Not to mention there's not really a whole lot of reasons to choose the individuality route unless you are indifferent to/hate the characters and want to be a dick by either continuously or suddenly verbally abusing and eventually killing them. Imo other games have done it better. Despite this, Gaston is still my favorite SMT character. Great character arc on that guy + he really caught me off guard with how much I grew to respect the unwavering ideals hidden beneath his dickish personality.
I loved the persona games and want to get into SMT but I heard that they’re really hard. Since I’m bad at video games I thought I should just watch a let’s play but should I buy 3 and 5 when they come out?
* Just came back from a session of P4 Dancing * I'm excited to play SMT for the first time! But seriously, I Love P4 Dancing. It's actually really fun...
I never played an SMT game and as much as I am one of those “*REEEEEEE*” level persona fans, I’m happy for you guys, you finally got what you wanted for the switch
Kinda makes me glad I took the step into smt. Didnt anticipate an actual release date when I bought Nocturne on ps3 but you'll be happy to know the previous video was why I took the step
I wish SMT fans and Persona fans could get along. Alas Persona fans can be Quite Obnoxious about it. I say this as someone who played more Persona than SMT and am not a fan of darker stories like SMT but I appreciate the SMT fans and to some extent do see what makes their games interesting and fun. It boils down to I like stories about saving the world and being heroic over stories where the world ends and everything gets depressing
SMT fans are the obnoxious ones. Because one, Persona fans mind their own business and SMT fans criticise whatever they do, two don't shit on SMT to praise their own games, three only 1% of Persona fans unironically use break free persona, but SMT fans go fighting windmills and attack everyone. They're elitists who see their games as perfect through nostalgia tinted shades
Some Persona "fans" are pretty whinny (though most of them are not really fans because they haven't even played Persona that's why they beg for a port) while some SMT fans are elitist assholes
i love persona. i liked Revelations Persona back in the day, loved 3, 4, and 5. but I will never apologize for saying SMT > Persona any day of the week ^^ SMT3N and SMT5 HYPE
eh it depends on which SMT game, because in my opinion the PS2 era of SMT is my favourite mostly for the 3d presentation and playstyle of the games, I wish SMT Nine had gotten an international release though. sadly it never got ported to another system. however I think there's a fan translation so I might be able to run it if Xbox Emulation is good enough, which I suspect it either is already good enough or it's getting there.
@@XeviousvSBlackmanta the only translation I know of out there is a youtuber known as Frog Sensei translating the text dialogue as he plays... I'll keep searching, that or figure out how to read japanese so that I can play Japanese SMT whenever
@@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 I mean they have a point, you should play nocturne. that's not a question. either get a PS2, a PS3, a PS4 or Switch and get Nocturne on one of those systems or emulate it on PC.
I may prefer persona to smt, but I'm really glad that we get more accessibility to smt. I'm not too far in nocturne, just up to matador, so it'll be nice to start over with the remaster.
@@Slenderquil Do not dekaja dood, the max you could bring down his agility is to +1. If you reset it to zero with dekaja he'll only just cast capote again.
@@rollpra6194 if my fastest demon dekajas, then my other ones have a chance at hitting him and he can waste a turn using red capote. One turn out of 4 available to me is less important than one turn out of Matador's 2. What would I even do instead of dekaja?
I'm a persona fan who hasn't played a mainline SMT game I'm very glad that SMT fans are getting a new installment of a franchise they enjoy, that I will hopefully enjoy soon as well. I hope Atlus treats y'all right, and gives you the god rejection story of a lifetime... Or at least for the next few years lol.
Here's a secret. The SMT side of the fanbase is actually just a bunch of tsunderes trying to pose as gatekeepers, that are trying to stealth reccomend underloved games to others. They can't just be honest and up front, because I AM THE BUG INSIDE YOU. I HAVE YOUR BACK TO THE WALL.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Not all of them. I am a SMT fan, even though I like the Persona games (not ones like Q and Dancing All Night) ... I enjoy both series equally. They are games, they are meant to be played and enjoyed for each is an unique experience in their own right.
Persona isn't SMT. I don't even mean that in a bad way. Each game uses similar things like characters and powers but their gameplay and especially story are different enough to where comparing them for a sense of standards isn't even right. Persona is more linear while SMT gives you an open map. There's a lot more to it but that alone changes so much
Now I want to see if those people that said persona is the main line because it's been having a lot of releases come back just to see how wrong they were
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"The god you worship is dead"
Our gods are dead. Ancient Klingon warriors slew them a millennia ago. They were more trouble than they were worth.
*ONE MORE GOD REJECTED*
But maybe don't because I've been praying for this to happen
@@zachataxxii7126 I AM THE BUG INSIDE YOU
Yeah we all saw the direct want a cookie 🍪
SMT V is the guy who finally comes back on the last day of school and still FCKING PASSES THE COURSE!!!
Gotta love this man.
That remidns of a friend that did not come for like 2 months
nice
Good follow-up to that comment on the first video.
This comment has still aged well
He's the guy that says nothing in the group chat for months and then returns to post a meme to let everyone know he still exists.
Meawhile, Persona 1 and 2 didn't even got the food
Poor p1,2 they have better music and plot than the new ones
Nah they are there they just dont have a social presence
You fool They are the food
That's because the persona series started on 3 fes
@@cesarsantamaria644 pretty sure it starts at persona 4 dancing
I immediately thought of that last video you made when I saw the announcement
Shinji get in the damn robot
I thought this was that vid so I had to check the title and upload date
@@srvino6160 small face shinji gang
@@bzrkr444 *we will spread the depression to everyone*
Yeah we all did
As a fan of both series, I'm just happy to see MegaTen getting some much needed love! But this is hilarious lol
see the last one and this xD
Technically Persona is part of Megaten.
@@jackskelington9453 yah
Same lol people seems can’t manage to love both series like two wars factions it’s ridiculous
finally someone with some gaddamn sense
Nocturne should have transformed into Nucturne Remastered.
Cturne
and strange journey into journey redux
"What's happening to me!?"
Well, you like dancing all night.
Better than 3/5 dancing 😎
gaspastrike I think p3d was better than p5d and p4d
@@k1llazp1d3r agreed
Imagine not liking Dancing All Night
If you like the dancing games for anything but the remixes....
Why is this even more accuarate than the first one, how do you do this? , is it black magic, let not a demon posses the.
but instead reject god
666 likes,
its black magic
Because he keep beliving that smt 5 will come out?
@@vincentchandra391 "I do believe in SMT5. I do I do I do."
Persona 1,2 and 2 ep: Whew we made the right choice not sitting with them and sitting with caligula effect instead.
Wdym persona started on 3
@@arthurcosta1657 Nah man, they started with Persona 4 and then they made the prequel
@@idkidc7513 Wait, Persona 5 has prequels?!?!?
Wait, Persona 5 Royal has prequels?????????!
Dang this is amazing
I want you all to know I could change the title to July, but I won't. The shame I have wrought upon myself should not, nay, cannot be forgotten.
Edit: fuck it.
It should be forgotten and should be fixed.
for that it deserves a dislike from me to remain for as long as the mistake exists.
@@WednesdayMan I support this notion. Please fix it.
Fix it or i will go Law and Chaos endings on you
And thanks for the NOCTURNE theme or *Screams of forsaken souls behind me*
nice
The table died
And They were given life.
A group that loses its table... will fade into nothing.
Aqil Wijdan I can invite you, to the Shin Megami Tensei to come...
persona 1, 2IS, and 2EP: so where do we sit
SMT if: here my children, under the table where the almighty atlus cant see us
Meanwhile, the Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei kids aren't even at school.
They be running it.
theyre boomers
They're smoking behind the gym
They’re too cool for any of personas bs
I'm not even a Personas game fan, but I run away like that whenever I see a Megami Tensei fan in public.
Its probably the smell right?
@@anenemystand5582 of course, that smell is really repugnant
Wait, Shin Megami Tensei fans cast Stagnant Air?
If you pause at just the right moment, you’ll see that this is actually a clip from American Dad.
I thought that this was original and genuine made
😠 No. The American Dad doesn't play Sheen Metami
I'm not sure if this is just a joke or you actually think we don't know that.
You don't say?
Pretty funny
The neglect arc has ended for smt now the hype arc begins.
You've earned your momment of happiness. And your table.
Persona 5: *takes of the mask* you thought it was about a Persona 5 Switch port...
SMT V: BUT IT WAS I, SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI V!
Kono SMT da!
They’re both great franchises from a great developer. I’m just so thankful we got SMT V before Persona 6 which I was slightly worried about tbh haha
Yeah
Same.
This will be my first smt game I’m really excited just finished persona 5 hopefully I can get use to the Combat system
Also is it true that Dante Sparda is in smt 3
@@grkfunn5821
Dante was in the North America release of the PS2 game. It seems the HD Remaster will be of the Maniax Chronicle Edition, where Raidou Kuzuhoha will be around instead of Dante. Since Atlus brought news of the release of Nocturne HD Remaster out of nowhere and took us all by surprise ... there is no telling if Atlus will have Dante in the game or not since Atlus KNOWS that Dante is popular on perhaps a worldwide scale.
I hope that Atlus could AT LEAST have Dante as DLC, if they do not have him in the game already.
The battles are given a Press Turn Icon system. If you have seen any gameplay of the battles, you will see four blue icons in the upper-right corner of the screen. Those are the Press Turn Icons. Each time you land a CRITICAL or use a skill an enemy or boss is WEAK against ... a Press Turn Icon will flash. To the normal minimum, you have four turns ... but could have anywhere up to eight turns if you hit an enemy or boss with what they are WEAK to. The enemy takes more damage.
If your enemy has a Void/Null Fire and you use a Fire skill on it, you will lose two PTI, regardless if they are flashing or not. The enemy will suffer no damage. If you have two PTI or less, it will become Enemy Turn.
If the enemy has has Repel Fire, and you hit it with Fire. You lose all remaining PTI, it then becomes Enemy Turn. The enemy suffers no damage, but you will.
If the enemy has Fire Drain and you hit it with Fire. You lose all remaining PTI, it then becomes Enemy Turn. The demon is healed, and you suffer no damage.
What holds true for the enemy holds true for you as well.
Null = You suffer no damage. Enemy side loses two PTI. It then becomes your turn.
Repel = You suffer no damage. The enemy loses all remaining PTI, it becomes your turn. The enemy takes damage.
Drain = You are healed by the attack. The enemy loses all remaining PTI, it becomes your turn. The enemy suffers no damage.
WEAK = You take more damage than normal. The enemy gets an extra turn (one flashing PTI).
@@grkfunn5821 yes in the maniax version now is JAZZ MAN
ruclips.net/video/Hv-zoqUVwaU/видео.html
Come on guys, we don't have a problem with the persona spin-offs, we only have problems with the persona 5 fans.
The persona games are great it’s just the fans wanting more. Like ports to the switch and releasing scramble in the west
@@mrsalty6884 i agree with you with the whole port thing but i think it's fine to ask for a game to get translated considering there was alot of excitement around it but i would be fine to wait on it if SMT 5 came out first
I believe P4D and P5S are the only persona spinoffs that aren't hated on
Mr Salty whats so wrong with wanting to be able to play scramble?!
I am a persona 5 fan whats so wrong with being one?! Its wrong to love the game ?
*FEAR*
FEAR SMT AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM!
FOR THE HOUR OF HIS JUDGEMENT HAS COME TO YOU!
I AM THE DEMON INSIDE YOU!!!!!!
THE WAIFUS YOU WORSHIP ARE DEAD!!!!!
ANOTHER PERSPNA GAME REJECTED!!!!
Persona Fan: Wait, it's all SMT?
SMT Fan: Always has been
But where’s RF5?
@@Gloomdrake *clocks gun* what about it ? Is more realistic FF 11 be lauched to ps5 than i her about rf 5 again
Arthur Araujo Oh, FF 11 on PS5 would be interesting
@@Gloomdrake people would be bitching about how absolute virtue takes time to kill in 2005 , they will bitch now too 😂😂
@@Gloomdrake but for real tho , we need true og final fantasy , bc for me the franchise became a "meh" since ff13 , we need sum ff6 level of lore , ff10 level of emotions and ff 12 gameplay content
THE GOD PERSONA FANS WORSHIP IS DEAD
Aka their waifus
Well yeah, we kill them in pretty much every Persona game
@@kalemuncher9425 So you are telling me that we're killing their waifus
@@zaneheaston8254 No, I'm saying we kill gods.
Though I wouldn't mind strangling the life out of Yukari.
@@kalemuncher9425 I know, I was referencing the first comment response
SMT: Can I have a turn with the new games?
Persona: No.
SMT: But you already have so many games!
Persona: I don't care, I want more.
SMT: Daaaad! Persona won't let me have a turn!
Atlus: Persona, let SMT release a new game.
Persona: And what are you gonna do if I don't?
Atlus: Do it, or I won't release P5 Scramble in the west.
Persona: Darn it. Fiiiiiiine...
SMT: Yaaaaay!
Lol imagine being the older brother telling saying it's his turn to use the play station
@@classifiedmann3074 no you don't understand it was smt's last resource to get a game
And they got two
Isn't SMT older than Persona? Then SMT should be the ignored first child
@@brezzendorf it is, I was pointing out the irony that the older had to beg the younger, normally it's the other way around
@@classifiedmann3074 I think younger siblings getting spoiled is pretty accurate
Cant wait to get into actual SMT games. This is coming from a guy who's only played Persona 5. I was hyped for that direct.
Same here bro
I only played Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE so this will definitely be my first pure Atlus experience.
Eyy you should emulate SMT strange journey, best RPG I've ever played
ur gonna luv it
I played devil survivor overclocked... but i doubt that counts.
Came back here after the trailer.
When the 1,000 days have expired, NEWS will be released (but due to the pandemic we have to add a couple hundred days to account for delay).
thank you. the more I see of posts like these the happier I get.
NOW, WHEN THE 1,000 DAYS HAVE EXPIRED
NEWS WILL BE RELEASED
MINI DIRECT, HAS COME, TO YOU
You can only have the table when your game actually comes out.
Yeah, which is November 12
I got the feeling that like Shin megami tensei V will do to the franchise what Skyrim did to the Elder Schrolls.
If even a casu like me know this franchise now, millions will come and gather.
Tho i hate that smt fandom will probably persona fandom all over again (i heard old persona fans was having hard time with the newer ones), at least atlus will milk beloved smt cow if that happens
I come back to this video from time to time, it feels me with such joy
"Who are you!?"
"We are THE BUG INSIDE YOU. WE'VE GOT YOUR BACK TO THE WALL"
When the nocturne ost kicked in I lost it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a Persona fan, I'm here to say that I'm very happy for the SMT community. You guys deserve it. If it wasn't for your franchise, mine wouldn't have existed.
Thank you! You have got the be one of the VERY FEW Persona fans who understand that. A lot of other Persona fans act like Persona games are better and refuse to even play a single SMT game to see how awesome they are in their own way.
From what I have come to understand from playing the Persona games is how ones like 3, 4, 5 and 5 Royal are about daily life with a twist for the supernatural. Players can put their selves into the shoes of the MCs and allow them to build their social circle as they see fit as well as see what life is like in a Japanese school (to some extents, like with activities and whatnot). These games gives players a sense of a reality within each game.
As for the SMT games, each have their own fictional story that leans into the dark, morbid and perhaps gritty with some messed up elements in each one. For example ...
In Nocturne, Sakahagi skins his own kind and wears their skin as clothes.
In Digital Devil Saga, the way to survive means devouring enemies ... which means cannibalism, cannibalism and more cannibalism.
In Digital Devil Saga 2, one of the bosses prefers 12 year old meat. Jenna Angel is revealed to be Sera's father (already known to be her mother) ... which makes her a hermaphrodite. In Digital Devil Saga 1, players are led to believe that Serph is a good guy and that Heat becomes a bad guy (Heat changing from good to bad starts in 1 and evident in 2) ... only to realize that in the real life of 2 - Heat was a good guy who opposed how cruel Serph actually was.
In Devil Summoner, when Raidou takes the cyborg body of Rasputin to Victor, Victor tells Raidou that he removed Rasputin's unnecessary parts ... which was his penis - which actually happened to the Rasputin in real life.
In Devil Summoner 2, by taking one of the cases, Raido (the Devil Summoner from a different reality/dimension) enters Sakuradayama through an interdimensional rift (for a lack of a better term) and is followed by Mara - a chariot riding penis demon.
All in all, both series have qualities that make them some of the best games around ... and have the potential to be timeless classics in gaming history.
Ian Moone one question can you control your full party in SMT games?
@@platinumskulls4490
Okay. Here is the best way to answer that question. That is if you mean to select what your summoned demons do while in battle.
SMT III: Nocturne
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Type: Turn-Based RPG
Full Control: YES.
Downside: If the MC dies ... Game over - even if the demons you summoned are still alive.
Fusion: YES
SMT IV
SMT IV: APOCALYPSE
--------------------------------------
Type: Turn-Based RPG
Full Control: YES.
Fusion: YES
SMT: Digital Devil Saga
SMT: Digital Devil Saga 2
------------------------------------------
Type: Turn-Based RPG
Full Control: YES.
Upside: You can change Skills at any time (outside of battle). Say if your next boss is WEAK to Ice. You can equip Ice skills to exploit the weakness of the boss to make the battle real easy.
Fusion: NOT AVAILABLE
SMT: Devil Summoner
SMT: Devil Summoner 2
-----------------------------------------
Type: Strategy RPG
Full Control: YES
Fusion: YES
(Note that Devil Summoner and Devil Summoner 2 are NOT turn-based, and NOT strategy RPG. Look up a video of any battle from either game on RUclips to understand what I mean.)
SMT: Devil Survivor
SMT: Devil Survivor 2
SMT: Devil Survivor 2 Director's Cut
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Type: Strategy RPG
Full Control: YES
Fusion: YES
SMT: Strange Journey
SMT: Strange Journey Redux
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Type: Dungeon Crawler Turn-Based RPG
Full Control: YES
Fusion: YES
Ian Moone what do you know I might actually give SMT a shot now
@@platinumskulls4490
If you have a Nintendo Switch, choosing between III HD Remaster or V could be as easy as flipping a coin and choosing what you choose for heads, and what you choose for tails. In Nocturne, not only can you fuse demons to create stronger demons, some evolve. Fusion result demons can learn skills from the two demons used in Fusion, if you do not like the skills the Fusion result demon can have, you can back out and recheck the inherited skills. Think of it as a reroll. Just like what stat increases a Persona might get from a Fusion Result (depending on how much EXP the Social Link/Confidant Rank will give to make the resulting Persona to be at a higher level). Say the resulting Persona you want focuses more on using magic, but you want it to have more Vitality and Agility ... but one of the stat increases is Strength, you could do the reroll process until you get the stat increases you are satisfied with.
But if you want to play a SMT game well before the release of III HD Remaster and V ...
If you have a 3DS, you could choose
Devil Survivor Overclocked (I forgot that title). DSO plays generally the same as Devil Survivor, but has voice acting. I think it has a few extras, but I cannot remember, it has been a long time since I played that one.
There is Devil Survivor 2 Director's Cut (which has more story and more bosses). I never got to play that one, so I am not sure if there are more demons.
Strange Journey Redux has more story, more bosses and a new character.
I do not want to leave spoilers.
There are things about the SMT games that sst them apart from the Persona series, and vice-versa.
Nocturne has an element in which the choices you make throughout determine the ending you get. There are about six endings.
Digital Devil Saga 2 has one difference near on the last part of the game, it depends on two particular choices you make in DDS2 ... and two in DDS1.
I only played Devil Summoner and Devil Summoner 2 once before my PS2 stopped reading every disk (game disk, music CD and DVD). I am not sure if those games have different endings or just one for each game.
When I played SMT IV, I had to go through a series of fusions just to create Asura what was a powerful Physical attacker with a high Strength stat, but had a decent Magic stat for him to use Agidyne several times, and made sure for him to have a passive skill known as Drain Ice so that any time he was hit by an Ice attack, he would heal instead of taking serious damage since he was normally weak to Ice. I gave him Charge so that his next attack was brutal. I also had him with other skills that brought out his full potential.
It took lots of Macca, having to summon this demon and that demon to create this demon and that demon, so on and so on. I made a list of what Skills I wanted Asura to have, and checked to see which demons had those skills, I fused them with demons of the right race and level just to make sure that by then time I could fuse the final two demons to create, I had all of the skills necessary in order to make Asura perfect. That was just ONE demon, I then had to that over and over until my entire roster was filled with all of my favorite demons ... each one perfected with the right set of skills for each one. I then had to max out their stats by grinding for Incense, in the end - it was more than worth it.
It wasn't easy to find copies of the games even back then. I usually ended up buying the only copies of Dds nocturne and devil summoner
As much as I love Persona, I totally needed a friendship cleanse after playing SMT4 Apocalypse lol
Fingers crossed SMT5 will be just as good as the other mainline titles! Also can't wait to see Raidou beat my ass in glorious HD with voice acting!
What's wrong with smt 4 apocalyptic
@@jokertheshinobineko2258 Tbh the gameplay is good and characters are fine, it's just the companionship/individuality routes are kinda generic, don't have much gameplay divergence and aren't as morally conflicting as the law/chaos/neutral/extra routes in other SMTs. The player's moral compass is so restricted compared to the rest of the series that you're basically forced to make a generic good vs evil choice between in the classic struggle between the Power of Friendship and Selfish Villainy... which is alreadt a pretty tired and heavy-handed theme in anime/video games as it is. Not to mention there's not really a whole lot of reasons to choose the individuality route unless you are indifferent to/hate the characters and want to be a dick by either continuously or suddenly verbally abusing and eventually killing them. Imo other games have done it better.
Despite this, Gaston is still my favorite SMT character. Great character arc on that guy + he really caught me off guard with how much I grew to respect the unwavering ideals hidden beneath his dickish personality.
As a die hard persona fan
I cannot wait to buy SMT 3 and 5
@Okarin there are more of us then you think. It's just that we're more silent compared to the other "fans"
I have never played Shin Megami but it looks great I am getting it for sure.
@Okarin i usually split persona fans into 2
"Persona fans"
"Persona 5 fans"
@@cainiwakura Why
I loved the persona games and want to get into SMT but I heard that they’re really hard. Since I’m bad at video games I thought I should just watch a let’s play but should I buy 3 and 5 when they come out?
The 7 month long wait for this has been well worth it.
Uh, it is actually July that happened, not June on the title.
Nice video btw! Glad to see that it got a follow-up. 👍
@@japoreanS it is
My own hubris has revealed how truly foolish I am...
* Just came back from a session of P4 Dancing *
I'm excited to play SMT for the first time!
But seriously, I Love P4 Dancing. It's actually really fun...
Is better than P3 Dance, I admit.
@@7991rellik Yeah me too. There's so much more heart in P4D
Finest moment in history
My birthday is the 20th of June xD
Same here
Happy late birthday
Also same here
@@yutopen I like you're name, from persona 4 xD
WHAT A BIG DAY :)
This makes me feel good
Especially after the last video
Persona fans: REEEEEEEE
SMT fans: *do what you must for I have already won*
Wise
Cant they be fan of both?
Me, a fan of both: yo, anybody got popcorn?
@@KKarkatVantas no
I never played an SMT game and as much as I am one of those “*REEEEEEE*” level persona fans, I’m happy for you guys, you finally got what you wanted for the switch
Imagine the new Persona to SMT fans calling the demons personas
Whaddya mean, they're called Shadows ya doof 😂
I'm being sarcastic please don't hurt me
@@kalemuncher9425 ah a persona 5 player huh? I remember when shadows were all unique (kind of bad) designs
Persona: **Exists**
SMT V and Nocturne HD release: _Allow us to introduce ourselves_
when your spinoff series becomes more popular than your actual mainline series
ikr shin megami tensei stole all the attention from megami tensei smh
Happened to Donkey kong as well
Happened with Rune Factory, Drakengard, Donkey Kong.
ANOTHER GOD REJECTED
DO YOU DRINK THE WINE OF THE WRATH OF GOD?
IM THE BUG INSIDE YOU
This is even more accurate than last time somehow
Kinda makes me glad I took the step into smt. Didnt anticipate an actual release date when I bought Nocturne on ps3 but you'll be happy to know the previous video was why I took the step
This gived me LIFE!!!! never thought that actualy a new SMT will arrive ( also the way it says SMT its so badass xD )
This hits harder now that the game is out and ign had persona feel meme going on
After Jun 13 2020,
P4G: Finally, I’m here!
SMT: That’s nice, your seats over there (points to P1, P2 IS, and P2 EP).
Shin megami tensei fans comming out of the basement after years of waiting.
ONE MORE SPINOFF REJECTED
I AM THE PORT AND MAINLINE
I HAVE YOU BACK TO THE WALL
@@conspiracypanda1200 SURVIVE THE TOXIC FANBASE
DRINK THE TEARS OF THE SALTY FAN BOYS,
ONE MORE SPINOFF REJECTED
*FEAR*
FEAR ATLUS AND GIVE MONEY TO HIM
FOR THE HOUR OF IT'S REMASTERS
NOCTURNE HAS COME TO YOU
Kinda a little pumped to try my first SMT game
I wish SMT fans and Persona fans could get along. Alas Persona fans can be Quite Obnoxious about it. I say this as someone who played more Persona than SMT and am not a fan of darker stories like SMT but I appreciate the SMT fans and to some extent do see what makes their games interesting and fun. It boils down to I like stories about saving the world and being heroic over stories where the world ends and everything gets depressing
Both can tbh. It’s like picking law or chaos. Fuck that I’m just going neutral and liking everything Megaten
SMT fans are the obnoxious ones. Because one, Persona fans mind their own business and SMT fans criticise whatever they do, two don't shit on SMT to praise their own games, three only 1% of Persona fans unironically use break free persona, but SMT fans go fighting windmills and attack everyone. They're elitists who see their games as perfect through nostalgia tinted shades
Minor Tatu you clearly did not see the reaction Persona Fans had over the announcement.
Some Persona "fans" are pretty whinny (though most of them are not really fans because they haven't even played Persona that's why they beg for a port) while some SMT fans are elitist assholes
Fosso yeah I must admit I don’t think a port would work, least not for 5 especially not 5R but I could see 3 FES or 4 Golden
i love persona. i liked Revelations Persona back in the day, loved 3, 4, and 5. but I will never apologize for saying SMT > Persona any day of the week ^^ SMT3N and SMT5 HYPE
eh it depends on which SMT game, because in my opinion the PS2 era of SMT is my favourite mostly for the 3d presentation and playstyle of the games, I wish SMT Nine had gotten an international release though. sadly it never got ported to another system. however I think there's a fan translation so I might be able to run it if Xbox Emulation is good enough, which I suspect it either is already good enough or it's getting there.
@@WednesdayMan If there is a translation for Nine out there spread the knowledge bro, I'd personally love to play that weird mmo hybrid game.
@@XeviousvSBlackmanta the only translation I know of out there is a youtuber known as Frog Sensei translating the text dialogue as he plays... I'll keep searching, that or figure out how to read japanese so that I can play Japanese SMT whenever
I do wish elitists would stop with the whole mantra of "If you haven't played Nocturne, you're trash and shouldn't be here."
@@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 I mean they have a point, you should play nocturne. that's not a question. either get a PS2, a PS3, a PS4 or Switch and get Nocturne on one of those systems or emulate it on PC.
SMT is back baby!
Unless they're bringing Raidou Kuzunoha back they can resume wandering.
What the game?
Cause dante probably won't appear in the hd version since raido kuzonoha was there.
@@ricardohernandezr5765 iirc they're using Raidou for the remaster, but I mean either giving Raidou his own remaster or a sequel.
@@crossbones116 well maybe, i never played the 1 , just played the second.
@@ricardohernandezr5765 Maybe,, just maybe, there will be a Dante DLC...
Dx2 mobile gacha had fucking Dante in it (and Bayonetta, and Gutts...).
@@ShionKenobi maybe or maybe they stick to the original don't know, time will tell.
Still great anyway.
I love how nocturn is in the perfect spot
What?
I feel happy now
This is why I paid internet
As a persona fan let me just say, congratulations and I am curious about mainline now
@Orion Street oh stop both franchises are good for different reasons
@Orion Street Both are good. Simple, really. :/
@Orion Street be quiet
@Orion Street i like both
But I honestly prefer Persona
As some one who got into main line smt through persona u lucky you get to play 3 on the switch with voice acting
love how this meme has a happy sequel
SMT here to remind Persona fans that they follow a spinoff title
Why's a spin-off selling more than a mainline
MT here to remind Shin megami tensei fans that they follow a spinoff title
Who cares
@@0tavi081 it's not a spinoff title tho, it's a direct series continuation of MT so you're factually wrong on that point
@@fosso8803 it's a joke calm down
Beautiful sequel to a beautiful video
So in this case, chaos or order? Because I feel like a certain balance was restored.
Probably neutrality
Chaos
I love their fans start at p3 😂
I may prefer persona to smt, but I'm really glad that we get more accessibility to smt. I'm not too far in nocturne, just up to matador, so it'll be nice to start over with the remaster.
Hifumi Magatama
@@donaldtrump2728 Already on it. I just need to figure out which demon has dekaja
@@Slenderquil Do not dekaja dood, the max you could bring down his agility is to +1. If you reset it to zero with dekaja he'll only just cast capote again.
@@rollpra6194 if my fastest demon dekajas, then my other ones have a chance at hitting him and he can waste a turn using red capote. One turn out of 4 available to me is less important than one turn out of Matador's 2.
What would I even do instead of dekaja?
@@Slenderquil spam sukukaja then use sukunda 3 times like i did
I'm just glad to see the SMT series coming back again. That Nocturne collectors edition shall be mine!
They should make a spin off w demi fiend and a persona protagonist
Updated version since E3 2021 SMT5 trailer plz?
They got their seats back
Truly a great resolution to an age-old dilemma.
The fact that the only Shin Megami game between IV and V was turned into Tokyo Mirage, it’s about time SMT fans rose up
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED.
As a fan of both, I can't wait for SMT5!
I feel like you picked this episode in case something like this happened
Direct: *exists*
SMT 3 & 5: Allow is to introduce ourselves
I love how the persona 1 and 2 are both absent from the persona games table
Cant we all just sit at the same table and enjoy both games for how awesome they are?
At this point we'll need some romeo and juliet scale romance to bridge that gap
Shin Megami Tensei V: Am I a joke to you?
Atlus: Not anymore. (kicks Persona 5 for having dreams of being on Switch)
this is the greatest sequel of all times
I beat Nocturne and DDS on PS3 recently and goddamn am I ready to go Hard Mode for the PS4! I’m in danger!
With the power of pierce raidou
I'm a persona fan who hasn't played a mainline SMT game
I'm very glad that SMT fans are getting a new installment of a franchise they enjoy, that I will hopefully enjoy soon as well.
I hope Atlus treats y'all right, and gives you the god rejection story of a lifetime... Or at least for the next few years lol.
Nice, hope you'll enjoy it my fellow fan
Atlus is currently charging 50 dollars for the nocturne remaster. Which is frankly peak atlus.
Its so funny to me that SMT fans fight each other.
This has to be the only franchise with such a divided fanbase.
Here's a secret.
The SMT side of the fanbase is actually just a bunch of tsunderes trying to pose as gatekeepers, that are trying to stealth reccomend underloved games to others.
They can't just be honest and up front, because I AM THE BUG INSIDE YOU. I HAVE YOUR BACK TO THE WALL.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 you're.. actually not wrong
@@aprinnyonbreak1290
Not all of them. I am a SMT fan, even though I like the Persona games (not ones like Q and Dancing All Night) ... I enjoy both series equally.
They are games, they are meant to be played and enjoyed for each is an unique experience in their own right.
Persona isn't SMT. I don't even mean that in a bad way. Each game uses similar things like characters and powers but their gameplay and especially story are different enough to where comparing them for a sense of standards isn't even right. Persona is more linear while SMT gives you an open map. There's a lot more to it but that alone changes so much
@@tylercafe1260 The fact that the series is literally called Shin Megami Tensei: Persona seems to disagree
Oh god....Fierce battle is sooo satisfying
0:43 When you’re new to SMT and you play the tutorial:
Now I want to see if those people that said persona is the main line because it's been having a lot of releases come back just to see how wrong they were
I was going to comment on the original but then I saw this 😂😂😂 its too perfect.
I love how you specifically changed SMT3
I as someone who prefers Persona, but loves Mainline, I only have one thing to say:
ONE MORE MILKING REJECTED
Dancing over P1 or 2 kinda killed me
As a persona fan, I must say,
Please destroy our community especially the p5 fans
Just the P5 fans* go get em
gaspastrike no no, he was right the first time
Why? What's going on?
@@i_will_not_elaborate persona fans just annoy everybody. Even other persona fans.
Arcane Heart they do be thinking the PTs will solve every real world problem tho
And here I thought the last video worked perfectly. This surpasses perfection.
Either way, it feels good to be an SMT fan again!
It's not that you can't be a fan of both series, it's just that making fun of persona is REALLY fun
Exactly
you said it perfectly
What a epic sequel while using the same episode from American Dad
Amateurs. Try to be a fan from shin megami tensei: devil survivor series. Devil Survivor 2 was the 3ds game for me
So happy to welcome the pioneer back. Can't wait to play on Switch & PS5.
Basically when persona fans find out that they’re beloved series is a spin-off.
And than I am just hear not caring and finding both SMT and Persona to be great in their own way.
Angelo Diaz I’m mostly talk about the one’s who spam to Atlus for a Switch port
David | Daichi | Barahona yes that goomba is slowly giving up
Edwin Seda those ones only played joker on smash and trying to ride the wave
Edwin Seda Ohh ok understandable than.
Dude this fits in so well...I immediately thought if your last vid