This is actually what I call a review perfectly explain BIOS options which are actually the most important thing motherboard reviews should be exploring but none of the other reviewers do, only shows boxes and oh look at the fancy RGB's I mean what the hell am I going to overclock the RGB's is that what the motherboards are supposed to be now sheesh. I mean really awesome review man do keep it up.
First, great job Buildzoid. This might be useful to someone. I have MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC with BIOS v1.50 and it has CPU voltage offset (+,-) and BLCK overclock setting. IMPORTANT: The default settings for this MOBO is set to "on board overclock mode" and the knob is set to "6" out of the box. This over-volt my R7 1700 up to 1.5v!! so its best to first: 1: Turn the onboard overclock knob to "0" to disable it (this will unlock CPU Ratio setting). 2: Don't use MSI command center (MSI's OC App) it will over volt the CPU even if Knob is set to "0". To overclock manually Switch to "BIOS overclock mode" but make sure that you do (step 1 first) Personally, I like to under-volt a little bit, turn on "AMD cool'n quiet", keep CPU ratio to auto, and use AMD Ryzen Master (startup with windows) to OC to 3.7 and keep Windows Power option to "balanced" when non-AAA gaming use. This will OC all core to 3.7 under heavy load (like video conversion) and auto down-clock some or all cores when running basic stuff. This leads to lower temps and power consumption but still fast for normal use. I use AMD Ryzen Master because I don't understand many of the bios advanced OC settings yet.
do you have some general guidelines for 2x16gb 3200 16-18-18-38 hynix mfr sticks on ryzen? MB Gigabyte x370 Gaming 5 23f BIOS. i have a really hard time to get them to 3066 or 3133 1.45V stable.
I'm pretty sure the point of "boot override" is to bypass boot order and boot from a different boot device. Without it, you'd have to change boot order, reboot, do a thing, then change back. Older motherboards had a "press a button now to select a boot device" thingy on a boot screen, but I prefer it in BIOS to avoid button mashing and hoping for the best.
MSI Just released a MASSIVE update to the BIOS, the offset voltage controls are now implemented. You can now select either mode, static or offset to each component. Pretty cool. This is on MSI Gaming M7
i have x570 msi pro carbon wifi. and its not posible put my memories 3200 mhz only the pc read 2133. help me please. i want to put the v core more less energy and have my 3200 mhz
WHQL Support enables stuff like secure boot and booting with native resolution (GOP). secure boot lets you restrict the system to only boot a specific system which then gets control over what else could get booted. it also enables access the PSP (a "security processor") to allow better hard drive encryption and "secured" remote management (like intels ME with the well known spectre bug ...). GOP is a piece of modern VGA-"BIOS" which enables the system to display in native resolution (but without acceleration) even without any drivers at any stage .... mainly eye candy. many laptops preinstalled with windows 10 and 8 have those enabled. which then again need a lot of work if you intend to remove that crap and install your own stuff.
The memory presets also change voltages - but only after rebooting. On my MSI Z370-A PRO it changed Vdimm, VCC SA and/or VCC PLL OC. Speaking of that board: don't run 686KHz switching frequency on it. At 4.3GHz and 1.150V, it fried the VRM and sent 12V to my i3 8350K.
hmm, after seeing the amnesia-like bios, I'de rather send the Asrock Taichi to the trash bin, lol. Perhaps even passing by the HPC's press on the way, lol. Solid VRMs, the Bios, well...
I have x370 Gaming 5 and bought Taichi for 2nd PC. That board from Asrock is far better in any aspect software wise. I agree some settings are sometimes hard to track down/find, but I like the board. Also found x370 Professional Gaming 2nd hand. Also great as Tachi, except I have issues with getting 5G NIC working. If you have spare Taichi and you want to get rid of it let me know, loving the board. It has off-sets, static votages, everything you would need. So far I am yet to see decent x470 motherboard I would even consider buying. Basically everything Buldozoid reviewed is sub-par to x370 Taichi.
At 32:30 Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar in bios 220 is apparently missing from bios 240 released recently. BTW, walk through was very helpful in OCing my first AMD build with this MB and a 2700X. Have now subscribed. Bye-bye, Intel!😀
QUESTION: I bought 2 packages of OLOy WarHawk RGB DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin sticks... I just realized that my memory was running at 1067 (2133) for some reason, so I wen't into the BIOS ... figured I would actually have them run higher, since the package says speed is 3600? And my motherboard can support I think up to 34** something.. so I turned on XMP... changed the ram speed to 3333 , and the Dram frequency also to 3333.. I didn't touch the voltage.. started up my computer and everything ran fine! It now says that I am running my RAM at 3333 BUT ... should I mess with those weird numbers? the 16/16/16/20 etc... TrC what have you.. or should I just leave that alone?! I have an MSI X470 MS-7B79 mother board.. and a Ryzen 5 S 2600 processor. With a GTX 1080 graphics card. 32 gigs now of ram.
You know, there are those of us out here who don' t "game" and "overclock." We just use computers for what computers were originally made for. This BIOS walk through is great for you guys who do all that fun stuff, but what about the rest of us? Ever think of doing a walk through for us?
Sir I was wondering, have you done a video reviewing the newer motherboard updates? Looking to get into some OC'ing, mostly just Infin Fabric and memory. But I am running a newer version BIOS, also wondering if it's worth downgrading the bios as it's GUI/UI has changed a fair bit. Thanks for your time and videos :)
I use 2 G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) AMD X370 Memory Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX. Decided to get 2 more and when I put them the PC turns on but there is no BIOS no keyboard and no signal on the monitors :(. Tried the XMP preset 1 and 2, removed the battery and nothing seems to make it work... Any idea?
ok I doubt you'll respond because you have TONS of subscribers but I am getting my PC assembled my a computer tech, I have a MSI MEG Z390 GODLIKE my brother gave to me and i got all the other parts myself, what should i tell the guy who is going to assemble my PC to do in terms of updating the BIOS...cause messing with this stuff scares me lol so if you could just give me some pointers or suggestions to tell him before he builds it that would be great....like should i just tell him to update the bios and turn on XMP...or tell him to do that manually?
This is the longest tech video I've ever watched and it's surprisingly enjoyable. Thank you for the knowledge. I have some questions I've been wanting to ask (and I'm totally new into this oc world) : 1. Do you think that more RAM sticks installed results in longer boot time? 2. I used the memory try it feature on my B350 PC Mate board and able to achieve 2933Mhz out of 2133 for 4 sticks with 14-16-16-34 1T. Noticed that you mentioned about the sub timings, can you please suggest on what's the basic for tweaking the timings? 3. Is it possible that a CPU might be limiting the kind of speed that the RAM supposed to be able to achieve? 4. I'm planning to switch to a newer board, atm I'm able to get my 1600 running at 3.9Ghz at 1.625v. If I were to change to a better board, do you think I'll be able to get a lower voltage to have that kind of speed? 5. I noticed lately that my CPU readings sometimes shows that it boosts to 4.0Ghz and my memory to about 3000Mhz. Is this normal? Because I keep my settings on "Expert", but the boost option greyed out on "Auto". Sorry if if my questions are a little bit too many, thank you in advance!
Where do I go for someone like you to configure my whole pc for gaming ?????? The amount of settings I've changed is insane and over the last 2 years its only gone downhill
Can someone with an MSI board tell me if you can use "Precision Boost Overdrive > PPT Limit" to reduce the stock TDP settings of the CPU, e.g. limit a 100W CPU to 80W so it will draw less power on multicore boost?
Thanks for the walkthrough! Sadly I'm still not sure what motherboard I want. On this MSI Board I would miss the offset voltage and the downcore options for 4+0 and 2+0. Maybe I should go with the Crosshair VII and take the bad singlecore boost?
@@lukast4046 I bought a second hand Zen2 CPU for my Girlfriends PC...and an MSI B550 Carbon Gaming Wifi. Turns out, that I don't like it. Technically it is a nice mainboard, but It is infuriating while doing IF/DDR OC. It doesn't recover after a failed attempt, so with every failed try I have to disconnect it from power and do a full Bios reset...taking over a minute to get back into the Bios. The results are fine, but it takes at least 3 times as much time to get there. And there are some other problems to...CPUvoltage offset ist useless the way MSI did it. .....profiles that where 100% stable before, fail to boot on first try and without a recovery, it means another lost minute for the Bios reset and then trying to get there again step by step instead of just loading the profile. When I think about it, it may take 5 times as long to do an OC with the MSI Board. When i'm going for a Zen3 CPU, I will go with the B570 Crosshair VIII..it is expensive, but it has a retry and a saveboot button.
any plans on looking at the crosshair VII? i know the pcb breakdown exists, but i would be interested to see if the bios and feature set actually deliver.
I guess you'll be glad to know that they added CPU voltage offset, at least in the version I am using as of January 2019. I was hoping that you were going to explain the advanced d ram configuration. To me that's the area that I understand the least and seems to have the most factors you can change.
Why does my x470 gaming plus bios look nothing like this? It looks outdated and its blue instead of red and black, new to bios updating, is there something wrong?
Did you find out why yours is blue and did you it fixed? What did you do to fix it if u got it figured out. I plan on getting this motherboard! Do you think this is worth it for its value at $175
Hey Buildzoid - could you check out these x470 boards with a Ryzen 1 chip and see how they cope? I had a terrible B350 MSI board, and upgraded to an x470 Strix. And the early BIOS is not helpful with clocking the thing. It just won't quite do what I could get stable on the B350.
Got a clue what kind of power delivery the ASUS ROG Strix Z370-I has? Is it the same as the G? Im maybe possibly trying to make a super small form factor PC but only if i can oc a 8700k well enough in that thing. I do have cooling figured out for it (i can put a nude cpu cooler with dual 240 rads if it comes to that)
On the x470 gaming plus even when you manually set the cpu multiplier it will still do a 500mhz all core boost, which in my case has my 4.1ghz overclock hitting 4.6ghz under load.
Is it normal that CPU core voltage drops 0.05v below the set voltage under load even with LLC Mode 1? Because only the Motherboards Vcore increases slightly with it enabled. For example I have CPU voltage set to 1.35v in BIOS and LLC Mode 1. HWinfo reports idle CPU core voltage at 1.35v and idle motherboards Vcore at 1.35v. Under load CPU core voltage drops to 1.3v and motherboards Vcore increases to 1.37v. Is this normal?
I was dismayed that this board won't OC an APU very well, I wanted to use a 2400g as a placeholder for a 2700x and dedicated gpu until I feel like dropping that money. What x470 board with a similar featureset would you then recommend?
Ive been trying to figure out why my cpu never actually reaches the base speed i overclocked it to.I have my 2700x overclocked to 4.3ghz with this motherboard and during cinebench it maxes out at 4.25ghz. same thing happened with my 2600x and x470 gigabyte aorus ultra gaming motherboard. im starting to think its a ryzen thing unless theres a setting to fix it? cause my friend has intel and he always has 4.99ghz with his overclock set to 5ghz. its not a temp issue cause i have a 360mm nzxt aio.
I'm quite underwelmed by this bios,even my old MSI motherboard has many more settings for vcore ( x99a sli plus), it has: override, offset, dynamic, dynamic+ offset ( bit buggy but if you persist it can really work well)
Ruben Fasola ah nice, i have the usb 3.0 version of this board, the x99s sli plus.. what cpu do you have and what frequency do can you achieve? i was able to go 4.4ghz in the beginning but had to go down to 4.3 after few months and two months ago this year i had to lower to 1.14Volts and 4.2ghz my 5820k runs really hot even tho i have a custom loop and a 360 rad and 240 rad its in the 90s after like 3 seconds in prime or xtu.. really sad i even have liquid metal between ek block and heatspreader
Paddydapro 5820k, then a xeon, then back to the 5820k (faulty xeon, i'm very lucky.. ), Freq: 4.5@1.23v non avx, 1.27v avx, 4.6@1.2something( don't remember)v non avx 1.33v avx ( pretty much instant 90s on load), i could even do 4.7 in non avx @1.38v, avx was instant throttle for anything above 1.35v, 420thin+280 thick, 3 days ago a lightnig fried psu, mb, cpu, RAM and GPU, i manged to repair the GPU. Haven't yet tested the SSD, but probably dead too, the system was on at the moment, a bit sad, i wanted to use the cpu fore some more years, i bought the cpu in october 2014 (early adopter) with the x99s sli plus, bios chip died at some point and i got upgraded to the x99a ( didn't even know the difference atm). I' m veeeeereeeeeeeery lucky indeed...
x99 is also an Intel platform, that is vastly more mature than AM4. And AMD motherboards do have a long history of being underwhelming compared to intel counterparts. It's about the only reason I am not completely convinced beyond a doubt, that motherboard makers have no clue at all about thermals and capacitor aging temp curves, lol. Yes, there are a few motherboards that are good for AM4, they also happen to cost more than the CPU, lol. "X470 AORUS Gaming 7 WIFI", and the "ROG Crosshair VII Hero AMD Ryzen 2 AM4", the rest sort of are lacking.
BreakingDimes 0_0, that's not really a good excuse for the VRMs being so bad and the bios being mediocre at best on x470 boards. It would be like saying a TR board will have a VRM that won't melt with a TR2 CPU and a better OCing Bios, just because, like x99, it is a higher tear platform. (looks at the Asus TR2 ROG emergency fan kit fix) lol. With all due respect, x470, is the top end of the AM4 socket platform, it should be better than it is.
Can everyone who has a MSI motherboards e-mail them and request V offset? Their forums are useless since no one from MSI interacts there. You have to request a service request. How about Buildzoid also ask them :D
hey build zoid have you tested the msi x470 gaming pro motherboard ? i have it on and i think the power delivery is screwed. no matter what i set my vcore to my LLC to this thing sends 1.568 vcore to my ryzen 3 1200 oc to 4.2ghz like my vcore is set to 1.425 with LLC level 2 and cpu z and hw monitor is saying 1.568v i have been at this for 3 hours now trying to figure this out
Heya, can you do this on your Asus x470 Prime? I really feel like im doing something wrong since my load temps even on 1.33V are in the eighties on high end air cooling..
Please i need help! I have a problem: My R5 1600X runs @3700MHz with Boost up to 4100MHz and i had some bad system freeze moments. System specs: R5 1600X, MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon, 8Gibibyte 3000MHz RAM, VEGA 56, 850W PSU and all Air Cooled ah Win10 64bit on SSD (looking for M.2 to upgrade) UEFI shows 3600MHz with standard settings but then in Windows CPU-Z and all other software shows 3700MHz . . . Why ? I was testing all kinds of UEFI settings and yes Ryzen Power Plan is on and Win 10 is up to date. Help is needed. You are all welcome to give me some hints or whatever . . . THANK YOU and THUMBS UP! BIG TIME!
If u don’t know don’t bother. It’s delete key btw. Turn game boost on (top left corner) if u have no idea how to overclock. This will automatically overclock +0.400ghz
You missed the MOST important feature of the fan control... The limiter boxes that prevent you from setting any of the "points" higher or lower than the points surrounding it. Cant tell you how many times Ive been adjusting the fan curves on my Asus board and I will accidentally nudge the point Im working with just a little higher than the one above it which then drags that one to where the other one was moved. Its annoying as F@#^& and I cant believe that Asus, with all their money, wasnt capable of coming up with something like what MSI did. Just that right there would be worth me rating the fan-control an 11/10, just saying.
No, it wasn't that you made it too much of a guide that was the downside of why the video was so long. You did a great job in the guiding, but what you also did, was interjected your own bias a little too much too often and elaborated on your bias too long. This is what added an extreme amount of time. For example, you had mentioned at least 3 or 4 times about your bias of the board not having an offset voltage and you went on and on about it so many times, that it added nauseating diatribe that didn't need to be stated but once. BUt I'd like to see how you'd use this board in a real time video of overclocking a ryzen 5 2600x with VENGEANCE® LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Memory Kit. Cuz for the life of me, I can't get this MB to show 3200mhz in windows using cpu-z to check. I've tried to both enable the A-xmp uing the 3200mhz profile it shows and disabled. Seems nothing i do gets cpu-Z in windows 10 to show 3200mhz
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This is actually what I call a review perfectly explain BIOS options which are actually the most important thing motherboard reviews should be exploring but none of the other reviewers do, only shows boxes and oh look at the fancy RGB's I mean what the hell am I going to overclock the RGB's is that what the motherboards are supposed to be now sheesh.
I mean really awesome review man do keep it up.
Now that is a great mic. Everything is so clear
First, great job Buildzoid.
This might be useful to someone.
I have MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC with BIOS v1.50 and it has CPU voltage offset (+,-) and BLCK overclock setting.
IMPORTANT: The default settings for this MOBO is set to "on board overclock mode" and the knob is set to "6" out of the box.
This over-volt my R7 1700 up to 1.5v!! so its best to first:
1: Turn the onboard overclock knob to "0" to disable it (this will unlock CPU Ratio setting).
2: Don't use MSI command center (MSI's OC App) it will over volt the CPU even if Knob is set to "0".
To overclock manually Switch to "BIOS overclock mode" but make sure that you do (step 1 first)
Personally, I like to under-volt a little bit, turn on "AMD cool'n quiet", keep CPU ratio to auto, and use AMD Ryzen Master (startup with windows) to OC to 3.7 and keep Windows Power option to "balanced" when non-AAA gaming use. This will OC all core to 3.7 under heavy load (like video conversion) and auto down-clock some or all cores when running basic stuff. This leads to lower temps and power consumption but still fast for normal use.
I use AMD Ryzen Master because I don't understand many of the bios advanced OC settings yet.
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do you have some general guidelines for 2x16gb 3200 16-18-18-38 hynix mfr sticks on ryzen? MB Gigabyte x370 Gaming 5 23f BIOS.
i have a really hard time to get them to 3066 or 3133 1.45V stable.
I'm pretty sure the point of "boot override" is to bypass boot order and boot from a different boot device. Without it, you'd have to change boot order, reboot, do a thing, then change back.
Older motherboards had a "press a button now to select a boot device" thingy on a boot screen, but I prefer it in BIOS to avoid button mashing and hoping for the best.
That's what it does, and also has the F11 key for boot prompt.
MSI Just released a MASSIVE update to the BIOS, the offset voltage controls are now implemented. You can now select either mode, static or offset to each component. Pretty cool. This is on MSI Gaming M7
Yea how do i set the offset thing? I need to reduce temps on my 2600x. Can you help me out please
@@dabee.473 go to the voltage settings and select offset under the CPU voltage and select negative or positive offset you want to use.
This is the mossssssssttttt great walkthrough video. Hats off. Damn!
i have x570 msi pro carbon wifi. and its not posible put my memories 3200 mhz only the pc read 2133. help me please. i want to put the v core more less energy and have my 3200 mhz
WHQL Support enables stuff like secure boot and booting with native resolution (GOP). secure boot lets you restrict the system to only boot a specific system which then gets control over what else could get booted. it also enables access the PSP (a "security processor") to allow better hard drive encryption and "secured" remote management (like intels ME with the well known spectre bug ...). GOP is a piece of modern VGA-"BIOS" which enables the system to display in native resolution (but without acceleration) even without any drivers at any stage .... mainly eye candy. many laptops preinstalled with windows 10 and 8 have those enabled. which then again need a lot of work if you intend to remove that crap and install your own stuff.
I dont understand, i have the exact same board, but my bios is the old ugly low res one ..... any idea why ?
Very good, got some helpful setting hints.
FYI the latest BIOS update adds offset on vcore
That's very disappointing to hear GPU setting options were taken off from the motherboard! :(
The memory presets also change voltages - but only after rebooting. On my MSI Z370-A PRO it changed Vdimm, VCC SA and/or VCC PLL OC.
Speaking of that board: don't run 686KHz switching frequency on it. At 4.3GHz and 1.150V, it fried the VRM and sent 12V to my i3 8350K.
Asrock Taichi to the bench!
hmm, after seeing the amnesia-like bios, I'de rather send the Asrock Taichi to the trash bin, lol. Perhaps even passing by the HPC's press on the way, lol.
Solid VRMs, the Bios, well...
I have x370 Gaming 5 and bought Taichi for 2nd PC. That board from Asrock is far better in any aspect software wise. I agree some settings are sometimes hard to track down/find, but I like the board. Also found x370 Professional Gaming 2nd hand. Also great as Tachi, except I have issues with getting 5G NIC working.
If you have spare Taichi and you want to get rid of it let me know, loving the board.
It has off-sets, static votages, everything you would need. So far I am yet to see decent x470 motherboard I would even consider buying. Basically everything Buldozoid reviewed is sub-par to x370 Taichi.
At 32:30 Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar in bios 220 is apparently missing from bios 240 released recently. BTW, walk through was very helpful in OCing my first AMD build with this MB and a 2700X. Have now subscribed. Bye-bye, Intel!😀
If possible could you do a BIOS walkthrough for the B450 version of the Gaming Pro Carbon. Please and thank you :)
Its the same minus the features you lose between the two, but all overclocking/voltage stuff will be the same
It would be really helpful if you could put a few timestamps in the description .
I can only see the other menú(the simple one) after updating bioa. Hpw can i change it tp this look? Thanks
10:00 reminder for self
I know this video is 5 years old but why is Memory try it different than XMP? Doesn't XMP set everything to Auto also?
QUESTION: I bought 2 packages of OLOy WarHawk RGB DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin sticks... I just realized that my memory was running at 1067 (2133) for some reason, so I wen't into the BIOS ... figured I would actually have them run higher, since the package says speed is 3600? And my motherboard can support I think up to 34** something.. so I turned on XMP... changed the ram speed to 3333 , and the Dram frequency also to 3333.. I didn't touch the voltage.. started up my computer and everything ran fine! It now says that I am running my RAM at 3333 BUT ... should I mess with those weird numbers? the 16/16/16/20 etc... TrC what have you.. or should I just leave that alone?! I have an MSI X470 MS-7B79 mother board.. and a Ryzen 5 S 2600 processor. With a GTX 1080 graphics card. 32 gigs now of ram.
This is so helpful. Thanks a lot!
where is the disable usb ports in sleep mode and in hibernation mode?
I can’t find the way yo put the frecuency of mi ram on 3200 it only put it on 2133
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking Hi what should I change to enable/disable USB ports when PC is powered off?
You know, there are those of us out here who don' t "game" and "overclock." We just use computers for what computers were originally made for. This BIOS walk through is great for you guys who do all that fun stuff, but what about the rest of us? Ever think of doing a walk through for us?
Sir I was wondering, have you done a video reviewing the newer motherboard updates? Looking to get into some OC'ing, mostly just Infin Fabric and memory. But I am running a newer version BIOS, also wondering if it's worth downgrading the bios as it's GUI/UI has changed a fair bit. Thanks for your time and videos :)
I have the same motherboard and the same processor, but the xmp is not working
I use 2 G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) AMD X370 Memory Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX. Decided to get 2 more and when I put them the PC turns on but there is no BIOS no keyboard and no signal on the monitors :(. Tried the XMP preset 1 and 2, removed the battery and nothing seems to make it work... Any idea?
El multi monitor funciona en la Mother esta? Porq yo tengo una y no me aparece la opción dentro de grafhics configutation
ok I doubt you'll respond because you have TONS of subscribers but I am getting my PC assembled my a computer tech, I have a MSI MEG Z390 GODLIKE my brother gave to me and i got all the other parts myself, what should i tell the guy who is going to assemble my PC to do in terms of updating the BIOS...cause messing with this stuff scares me lol so if you could just give me some pointers or suggestions to tell him before he builds it that would be great....like should i just tell him to update the bios and turn on XMP...or tell him to do that manually?
This is the longest tech video I've ever watched and it's surprisingly enjoyable. Thank you for the knowledge. I have some questions I've been wanting to ask (and I'm totally new into this oc world) :
1. Do you think that more RAM sticks installed results in longer boot time?
2. I used the memory try it feature on my B350 PC Mate board and able to achieve 2933Mhz out of 2133 for 4 sticks with 14-16-16-34 1T. Noticed that you mentioned about the sub timings, can you please suggest on what's the basic for tweaking the timings?
3. Is it possible that a CPU might be limiting the kind of speed that the RAM supposed to be able to achieve?
4. I'm planning to switch to a newer board, atm I'm able to get my 1600 running at 3.9Ghz at 1.625v. If I were to change to a better board, do you think I'll be able to get a lower voltage to have that kind of speed?
5. I noticed lately that my CPU readings sometimes shows that it boosts to 4.0Ghz and my memory to about 3000Mhz. Is this normal? Because I keep my settings on "Expert", but the boost option greyed out on "Auto".
Sorry if if my questions are a little bit too many, thank you in advance!
Tnx for the video. Do we need a 1st or 2nd gen ryzen CPU to update BIOS of that motherboard ?
Мой любимый Биос моей любимой мамки!
How to get better performance on b350 tomahawk with r5 1600 and 8gb ram.
Where do I go for someone like you to configure my whole pc for gaming ?????? The amount of settings I've changed is insane and over the last 2 years its only gone downhill
Can someone with an MSI board tell me if you can use "Precision Boost Overdrive > PPT Limit" to reduce the stock TDP settings of the CPU, e.g. limit a 100W CPU to 80W so it will draw less power on multicore boost?
not first but in the top 10 !
Thanks for the walkthrough!
Sadly I'm still not sure what motherboard I want. On this MSI Board I would miss the offset voltage and the downcore options for 4+0 and 2+0.
Maybe I should go with the Crosshair VII and take the bad singlecore boost?
its 2 years later, what did u get?
@@lukast4046 I bought a second hand Zen2 CPU for my Girlfriends PC...and an MSI B550 Carbon Gaming Wifi.
Turns out, that I don't like it.
Technically it is a nice mainboard, but It is infuriating while doing IF/DDR OC.
It doesn't recover after a failed attempt, so with every failed try I have to disconnect it from power and do a full Bios reset...taking over a minute to get back into the Bios.
The results are fine, but it takes at least 3 times as much time to get there.
And there are some other problems to...CPUvoltage offset ist useless the way MSI did it. .....profiles that where 100% stable before, fail to boot on first try and without a recovery, it means another lost minute for the Bios reset and then trying to get there again step by step instead of just loading the profile.
When I think about it, it may take 5 times as long to do an OC with the MSI Board.
When i'm going for a Zen3 CPU, I will go with the B570 Crosshair VIII..it is expensive, but it has a retry and a saveboot button.
any plans on looking at the crosshair VII? i know the pcb breakdown exists, but i would be interested to see if the bios and feature set actually deliver.
I guess you'll be glad to know that they added CPU voltage offset, at least in the version I am using as of January 2019. I was hoping that you were going to explain the advanced d ram configuration. To me that's the area that I understand the least and seems to have the most factors you can change.
My bios looks nothing like this, I have the x470 gaming plus and the bios looks old and blue
Can't wait for the crosshair vii one
Why does my x470 gaming plus bios look nothing like this? It looks outdated and its blue instead of red and black, new to bios updating, is there something wrong?
Did you find out why yours is blue and did you it fixed? What did you do to fix it if u got it figured out.
I plan on getting this motherboard! Do you think this is worth it for its value at $175
how did u get bios click 5 on that motherboard?
Hey Buildzoid - could you check out these x470 boards with a Ryzen 1 chip and see how they cope? I had a terrible B350 MSI board, and upgraded to an x470 Strix. And the early BIOS is not helpful with clocking the thing. It just won't quite do what I could get stable on the B350.
im going to buy this mobo for my next build soon since buldzoid favour this mobo.Waiting for 3600.
Got a clue what kind of power delivery the ASUS ROG Strix Z370-I has? Is it the same as the G? Im maybe possibly trying to make a super small form factor PC but only if i can oc a 8700k well enough in that thing. I do have cooling figured out for it (i can put a nude cpu cooler with dual 240 rads if it comes to that)
On the x470 gaming plus even when you manually set the cpu multiplier it will still do a 500mhz all core boost, which in my case has my 4.1ghz overclock hitting 4.6ghz under load.
Is it normal that CPU core voltage drops 0.05v below the set voltage under load even with LLC Mode 1? Because only the Motherboards Vcore increases slightly with it enabled.
For example I have CPU voltage set to 1.35v in BIOS and LLC Mode 1. HWinfo reports idle CPU core voltage at 1.35v and idle motherboards Vcore at 1.35v. Under load CPU core voltage drops to 1.3v and motherboards Vcore increases to 1.37v.
Is this normal?
I love memory Try-It. Just stick cheap DDR4 Ram (2400 mhz or something) and Try-it 2993 CL16 and it works.
I was dismayed that this board won't OC an APU very well, I wanted to use a 2400g as a placeholder for a 2700x and dedicated gpu until I feel like dropping that money. What x470 board with a similar featureset would you then recommend?
Why does my bios look way more basic, same board even updated the bios
Ive been trying to figure out why my cpu never actually reaches the base speed i overclocked it to.I have my 2700x overclocked to 4.3ghz with this motherboard and during cinebench it maxes out at 4.25ghz. same thing happened with my 2600x and x470 gigabyte aorus ultra gaming motherboard. im starting to think its a ryzen thing unless theres a setting to fix it? cause my friend has intel and he always has 4.99ghz with his overclock set to 5ghz. its not a temp issue cause i have a 360mm nzxt aio.
The boot priorities interface on the motherboard is confusing. Lol
Could you chime in on the new bios for this motherboard? Offset voltage is available but still confused about it.
Please, this tutorial wil be used in Ryzen 2600x ?
What about asrock, do their boards lower the frequency and voltage when cpus are OCed manually and while in idle?
My X470 MasterSLI doesn't step down from the 4Ghz@1.2V manual OC settings, except for the Vdroop.
You need to do p-state overclock.
He doesn't do ASRock, he'd rather die
Does overclocking have to be complicated? Can't you just change 2 settings, the cpu ratio and voltage and be done with it?
New bios come out. Can OC gfx again in the new one for x470 gaming plus
I'm quite underwelmed by this bios,even my old MSI motherboard has many more settings for vcore ( x99a sli plus), it has: override, offset, dynamic, dynamic+ offset ( bit buggy but if you persist it can really work well)
Ruben Fasola ah nice, i have the usb 3.0 version of this board, the x99s sli plus.. what cpu do you have and what frequency do can you achieve? i was able to go 4.4ghz in the beginning but had to go down to 4.3 after few months and two months ago this year i had to lower to 1.14Volts and 4.2ghz my 5820k runs really hot even tho i have a custom loop and a 360 rad and 240 rad its in the 90s after like 3 seconds in prime or xtu.. really sad i even have liquid metal between ek block and heatspreader
Paddydapro 5820k, then a xeon, then back to the 5820k (faulty xeon, i'm very lucky..
), Freq: 4.5@1.23v non avx, 1.27v avx, 4.6@1.2something( don't remember)v non avx 1.33v avx ( pretty much instant 90s on load), i could even do 4.7 in non avx @1.38v, avx was instant throttle for anything above 1.35v, 420thin+280 thick, 3 days ago a lightnig fried psu, mb, cpu, RAM and GPU, i manged to repair the GPU. Haven't yet tested the SSD, but probably dead too, the system was on at the moment, a bit sad, i wanted to use the cpu fore some more years, i bought the cpu in october 2014 (early adopter) with the x99s sli plus, bios chip died at some point and i got upgraded to the x99a ( didn't even know the difference atm). I' m veeeeereeeeeeeery lucky indeed...
x99 is also an Intel platform, that is vastly more mature than AM4. And AMD motherboards do have a long history of being underwhelming compared to intel counterparts. It's about the only reason I am not completely convinced beyond a doubt, that motherboard makers have no clue at all about thermals and capacitor aging temp curves, lol.
Yes, there are a few motherboards that are good for AM4, they also happen to cost more than the CPU, lol. "X470 AORUS Gaming 7 WIFI", and the "ROG Crosshair VII Hero AMD Ryzen 2 AM4", the rest sort of are lacking.
Zarcondeegrissom you are also forgetting x99 is a High end chip set and the boards were typically more expensive that x470
BreakingDimes 0_0, that's not really a good excuse for the VRMs being so bad and the bios being mediocre at best on x470 boards. It would be like saying a TR board will have a VRM that won't melt with a TR2 CPU and a better OCing Bios, just because, like x99, it is a higher tear platform. (looks at the Asus TR2 ROG emergency fan kit fix) lol.
With all due respect, x470, is the top end of the AM4 socket platform, it should be better than it is.
I have a msi z77a gd55 from 2012, and bios is very semilar to this and it too NO had voltage offset, so I doubt msi is going to add it
Can everyone who has a MSI motherboards e-mail them and request V offset? Their forums are useless since no one from MSI interacts there. You have to request a service request. How about Buildzoid also ask them :D
What is the email?
I'm not sure info@msi.com would really care.
I'd do it, tho.
its fixed lol
hey build zoid have you tested the msi x470 gaming pro motherboard ? i have it on and i think the power delivery is screwed. no matter what i set my vcore to my LLC to this thing sends 1.568 vcore to my ryzen 3 1200 oc to 4.2ghz like my vcore is set to 1.425 with LLC level 2 and cpu z and hw monitor is saying 1.568v i have been at this for 3 hours now trying to figure this out
Thank You
90% of this is going over my head
How my bios is different it's gray look and not red
ty man!!
Do Prime X470 Pro please.
I have a doubt about the over voltage protection and under voltage protection. The higher the value the greater the protection or the opposite?
Opposite
im deciding getting the b450 version of this ans do you think a 2600 oc'ed all the way would be fine on that vrm like medium airflow
can you overclock gpu in the msi bios
Where to install bios msi click 5?
any chances that you will review Crosshair 6 Hero with 2700x ?
does B450 support Sata SSD RAID 0 I am using 2 840 evo drives in RAIDO on intel z77 I am moving from intel to AMD.
So how do you get the integrated graphics? I want to hook up a monitor to the mb for a second monitor bc my gpu has only 1 port.
I just bought this Mobo for £137 on eBay (open box) the AC 7 one. :)
This one - www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-X470-GAMING-M7-Motherboard/dp/B07C44JKV8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1534676679&sr=8-5&keywords=MSI+x470
Same config but I have a click bios 1. Who can help me ?
Can you do a video showing the off voltage stuff?
Heya, can you do this on your Asus x470 Prime? I really feel like im doing something wrong since my load temps even on 1.33V are in the eighties on high end air cooling..
Please i need help!
I have a problem: My R5 1600X runs @3700MHz with Boost up to 4100MHz and i had some bad system freeze moments.
System specs: R5 1600X, MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon, 8Gibibyte 3000MHz RAM, VEGA 56, 850W PSU and all Air Cooled ah Win10 64bit on SSD (looking for M.2 to upgrade)
UEFI shows 3600MHz with standard settings but then in Windows CPU-Z and all other software shows 3700MHz . . . Why ? I was testing all kinds of UEFI settings and yes Ryzen Power Plan is on
and Win 10 is up to date. Help is needed. You are all welcome to give me some hints or whatever . . .
THANK YOU and THUMBS UP! BIG TIME!
I have a problem my pc is on and no bisplay i mean i boot the pc but nothing on display can you solve the problem make a video on that thank you
SKR IS PLAYING do u have a gpu
Why are ur ram sticks diff speeds can u explain
thanks God that made you
is the apu problem on msi boards still valid?
What do i have to do with the usb stick
What key do you click to access bios
If u don’t know don’t bother. It’s delete key btw.
Turn game boost on (top left corner) if u have no idea how to overclock. This will automatically overclock +0.400ghz
Tpm1.2?
What do ihave to do after the bios
Sounds like Chris O'Dowd
So, what's wrong with an OC guide.
You missed the MOST important feature of the fan control... The limiter boxes that prevent you from setting any of the "points" higher or lower than the points surrounding it. Cant tell you how many times Ive been adjusting the fan curves on my Asus board and I will accidentally nudge the point Im working with just a little higher than the one above it which then drags that one to where the other one was moved. Its annoying as F@#^& and I cant believe that Asus, with all their money, wasnt capable of coming up with something like what MSI did.
Just that right there would be worth me rating the fan-control an 11/10, just saying.
Is this for overclocking?
No, it wasn't that you made it too much of a guide that was the downside of why the video was so long. You did a great job in the guiding, but what you also did, was interjected your own bias a little too much too often and elaborated on your bias too long. This is what added an extreme amount of time. For example, you had mentioned at least 3 or 4 times about your bias of the board not having an offset voltage and you went on and on about it so many times, that it added nauseating diatribe that didn't need to be stated but once. BUt I'd like to see how you'd use this board in a real time video of overclocking a ryzen 5 2600x with VENGEANCE® LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Memory Kit. Cuz for the life of me, I can't get this MB to show 3200mhz in windows using cpu-z to check. I've tried to both enable the A-xmp uing the 3200mhz profile it shows and disabled. Seems nothing i do gets cpu-Z in windows 10 to show 3200mhz
Whiney came to mind. I think he needs his offset voltage adjusted. :^)
How can i install windows 10 then
is this same vrm as b450 gaming pro carbon?
No
So....
Yeah! 😀
Nice work!!!
Bruh I’m only here to see what fuckin key I need to press lmfao, I got the new Ryzen and before I can even click the key Windows is started
Kind of hard to follow you seem to go very fast and are very clicky clicky
Do you have a discord or email I have something important to tell you