Platforms 1-12 are heritage listed. This is the first plan that was presented. The second, and most recent plan leaves the platforms open and untouched. The costs involved with this project are staggering. The engineering alone is around 50million. Construction over active train lines that handle over 250,000 riders each day. The underground rail lines, services, and utilities removal and re-routing would be many millions. Affordable housing, for who???
@@mehmeh5471 The ones demographically replacing us are... the next generations following us. That's what that means. Oh, did you mean a racial dogwhistle? I'm sure you couldn't possibly have meant that!
I just hope that no historic building get torn down they nave no right to do that ! After all those buildings belong to the people and not for development for convenience.
the city is taking very heavy consideration of the heritage of the station, the building will not be demolished or at all damaged, the space will be built over only the platforms and the central station building will be kept and minor things will be done to try improve the grand concourse and make it a nicer place to be
'Affordable housing' as in rental spaces only. I was reading a few weeks ago how the govt has ok large overseas developers to build apartment blocks that are for rent only. They will also get tax incentives for this as well.
They don’t care about the heritage. They demolished willow grove in parramatta for the powerhouse museum. They have now said they can’t rebuild it. Which is a terrible shame as we are spending a lot of money to keep it in storage. I don’t mind the good lines park. I think it’s a terrible idea for the whole thing. The beauty is in the building. It takes away from the heritage of the place.
@ronvorbach1464 The Town Hall graveyard was the first Sydney colonial cemetery that needed to be relocated as the city grew and expanded. The bodies were removed and relocated to Central and Rookwood when the town hall was constructed. Unfortunately, it appears that some bodies had not been removed. The cemetery had not been consecrated ( blessed) by the church (St Andrews Anglican Church), and the heritage significance wasn't recognised at that time in the colony, so less care was taken. However, the bodies were more carefully removed from the Central Station site by train from the then Mortuary Station to Woronora, Rookwood, and by road ( possibly tram) to Botany Cemetery. This was carefully considered and undertaken in order for the expansion of Central Station to cater to the transport needs of the ever growing city. The heritage status of the cemetery wasn't recognised due to the colonial nature of the city as the federation wasn't complete until 1901. The recognition of the historical significance of sandstone buildings and graveyards is a relatively recent issue with the development of the heritage registers and the appreciation of our history.
"Heritage" is about preserving meaning and history, not about living in a static museum or time capsule. The dynamic growth of Sydney is part of that history, which is why heritage can be preserved even while changing some aspects of the overall presentation. I'm fascinated by the amount of affection shown to Willow Grove! It was such an ordinary building, unexceptional and not in any way special within the greater Sydney region. Nor was it historic or important within Parramatta itself - nothing like Old Government House and the far more interesting and older historic buildings and terraces around Parramatta.
Why would you say they don’t care about the heritage? Have you seen the approval process and the hoops they have to jump through? Clearly, it’s been a long time since you worked on such a project. Things have changed dramatically in the past 40 years.
I'm of the view that all new buildings of more than 4 floors should have residential apartments included in the design to keep pace with the changing face of society and, this would help keep the city alive instead of just another dying city.
I love trains & railway heritage, sadly, they've ruined the Grand concourse that I remember as a kid. It used to be a bustling place with lots of places to sit, the tea rooms provided sustenance before departing or on arrival of your trip. It was a good meeting point second only to Town Hall steps, The digital timetable may be convenient but has none of the charm of the old wooden boards with individual station names. There is barely anywhere to sit in the main concourse & all the dayglow ad screens clash with the beauty of what was once a really charming space to be in. Dismantling heritage features to make way for modernity is not always the right course in certain spaces.
Surely we have enough office space that goes unused anyway in the cbd. Sydney cbd is so corporate and devoid of culture and if they want to bring that back then why build more and more corporate office buildings that will inevitably go unused most of the time
@@Bigmoneygangsta I agree I don’t understand why anyone wants to be building any more office blocks in the Sydney cbd for a long time. Working from home & hot-desking is the current vogue, and there’s a surplus of office space that doesn’t look like going away for a while. And this will ruin the Central station, make the platforms dingy and depressing. I so hope that funding falls through and it doesn’t happen.
the station development is focusing on reducing car dependency not promoting it, its a train station, if you need to go somewhere you catch the train or a bus, not an uber, though the option is there you just have to find somewhere to be picked up and all.
The shrouding of the heritage main building by layers and layers of new infrastructure should be seriously reconsidered. There’s a lot to be said for preserving the scale and texture of the original Central Station building with the clock tower as a counterpoint. A more sensitive eye for the preservation of the classic architecture is really missing in this proposal. Given the scale of the proposed development there are numerous opportunities to create key vistas of the elegant old building without the over abundant layering of modern architecture obscuring jewel in the crown. Additionally I hope there will be fewer place names with “Central” in the title. Perhaps place names honoring the aboriginal heritage of the location just as Gadigal was chosen for a station on the new Metro. Or something from Colonial times too. But the overall project looks marvelous. I wish American cities were managed with as much vision and the execution done with alacrity as seen here. I live in California where projects tends to be proposed but greeted with skepticism because of the dismal track record of projects being buried and forgotten in short order or is way over budget or is poorly executed. The city of LA recently completed a rail project that was requested in the 1980’s which was a vital missing link in the center of the city’s rail network. An absurd case of planners who don’t use transit. To travel from Santa Monica in the west to Pasadena in the east a distance of about 25 miles took me about two hours on three different lines. With the missing link completed it now takes about 90 minutes and two trains! That’s considered progress here! The missing link took over nine years and almost $2B to build adding only five stations each of which have very low ridership. And it looks pretty boring from an aesthetic point of view in contrast to the recently opened Metro line from Chatswood to Sydneham. We could do with some serious self reflection here in the US while the rest of the world passes us by. I grew up in Sydney so it’s wonderful to see my hometown become a world class city. (Meanwhile here in the US of A we’re trying to fend off a mortal threat to our democracy.) Thanks for a great video. I’ve liked and subscribed
One thing that strikes me is that there is a lot of water lines, pipes etc implied by the plaza. The plants need watering and there is a water feature. They must avoid the mistake of putting this water and sewerage infrastructure under the plaza, visible to the trains. Accidents would flood the platforms and maininance would block the trains. They may have a hidden floor under the plaza for all the infrastructure. Those load bearing Columns will carrying a lot of weight they will need to be very dense reinforced concrete. Placing them on each platform will require that platform and its power systems to be taken off line. One platform is off line now, I believe, so hopefully that will not cause a shortage of space and capacity.
All this reminds me of the opening of the Sydney Opera House. The first April fools day to follow some Architect students told the media that the Opera House was sinking and hence the government of the day hit panic mode calling in experts to double check and only to find out it was an April fools joke.
I live relatively close to Central. If this goes ahead it will be a nightmare for crime & graffiti. There are already "For Lease" signs everywhere on office buildings. And what about cars, buses, taxis, etc.? There is a major road intersection where they're planning Mortuary Station park. To get from the northern end of the city to the southern end is already a nightmare. This will make it virtually impossible. It's not always practical to walk or bike everywhere, especially for travellers with suitcases or travelling with special needs. I agree some of the open spaces can be made more visually appealing (the view coming into/leaving Central is pretty bad), but overall I sincerely hope this does not go ahead.
Surprising how little public upgrades you get for a massive new suburb of commercial towers. looks like a terrible trade for us and a win for developers
State selling an underutilised public asset to supply more density in the best located part of the entire city is a good outcome for the city more generally. also improved connectivity and a few new decent public spaces are worthwhile.
It seems like they are attempting to sell acceptance of building towers by distracting with emphasis on the public spaces aspect of the project. Personally, I would rather look at the architecture of the towers. It will be the people brought in by both office and apartment towers that will be the major factor in revitalizing the area, and giving life to these public spaces. It should also make that end of the CBD far more visually interesting. The area above the rail lines has always been essentially wasted space, and building above it is logical, and as these renders show, a great addition to the city. I remember the bleak emptiness of the old buildings along Broadway, and how the cluster of towers along there breathed life into what is now a very vibrant part of the city and is visually exciting. The tower developments at Central should have a similar transformative sort of effect.
if what we get is anything like what's in the renders I'm pretty exited, Sydney needs more interesting architecture that isn't more concrete boxes, the buildings at Barangaroo and the new buildings for UTS are really nicely designed and things like that would be so good for the skyline
@@SydneywithSam Fortunately that minimalist concrete box sort of architecture is no longer the fashion and the new architectural styles are far more visually pleasing.
I suspect the low hanging fruit/ easy development around the edges will be developed and the over station development left in the too hard/too expensive basket
I just hope that this is future-proofed to allow for HSR if/when it arrives. I would hate for them to need to dig some dumb underground expensive station box just because they didn't leave room when building this development.
I guess we won't be seeing the Corella making their stop off at Douglas park on Eddy Avenue there while or after the 'affordable' residential monster is erected
I sometimes drop family/friends off at Central or pick them up ....by car. I see the current drop off/pick up spot is being turned into a park. Yes great! But how do people who arrive from distant places with multiple suitcases etc. get from Central to their next destination? Clearly considerable thought should be going into provision for this: Connection to light rail/buses, taxis, private car pick up and drop off etc. And if the idea is that they can transfer to local rail services then decent provision needs to be made to accommodate suitcase s. Tokyo has it for services to Narita airport ...but we don't have it on our rail link to the airport.
the thing is Sydney is a growing city and have reached its practical limit for outwards expansion, up is the most logical and sensible way to go and utilizing land like this is important, it is a good thing, it provides housing and jobs and community space, developments like this are important and good for the city
Yet another shiny trinket hot mess/garbage tourist trap & "green space" like Darling Harbour, etc... No money to maintain the current neglected infrastructure, & they rip up the already chaotic dedicated cycle ways that would actually make the city money, remove conflicts between motorists & cyclists, & improve health & environment
there comes times where every space may well have to be redone, heritage can't always last, especially in somewhere like Sydney. To me this is a really good new proposal which makes good use of the space for mixed commercial and residential use, creates really nice looking new spaces, and helps connect the surrounds, all while keeping the central station building and making some minor improvements inside and around to greatly improve the grand concourse. I'm all for this project!
Enough. ferchristsakes enough development in central inner sydney, the outer suburbs are bulging at the seams with migration ..outer south west has been marked as growth corridors for over a decade and have still got zip all. Try catching PT from Narellan or Wetherill Park or Liverpool. Ridiculous that for places like Dulwich hill where albanese lives has a Metro,a light rail ,a heavy rail and bus and is only 10km from the CBD anyway.
development is needed in the inner-city to allow people to move closer to the city, building more housing close to and in the city allows people to move closer in and reduces strain on outer suburbs, reduces travel times, and allows for more connectivity. though in saying that development further out is also a good idea inner and outer city developments are both important for the growth of the city
I’m all for beautification but a lot of these plans aren’t practical. Central Station needs more expansion to cater for the needs of the future. And I’m not talking about needing more metro type of platforms and rail lines . I’m talking of needing more rail lines and platforms that can handle the newer double decker trains to come. Because the only other solution is to build a second “terminus/hub somewhere else which may be impractical in some people’s eyes because they’ll want it all in one central ( no pun intended) location…… ⚛️☮️🌏
I don’t like it. I like the open air platforms and sunshine. The only thing I ever want to see built over them is a possible glass canopy. I sincerely hope this all falls through and never happens.
the space needs some revitalisation as well as it is land that is underutilised and would really benefit from the new green spaces and residential/commercial development
@@SydneywithSam How are busy railway corridors logically “under-utilised”? What utter tosh, areas adjacent to the tracks on either side are doing fine and have been for over a century. This is just gimmicky developer tosh.
I don’t get the idea of building affordable housing in the city with tax payers money. If you cannot afford to live in the middle of the city just move out of it! Like all other ordinary people do.
Yep. Cut all the safety certifications and red tape out of the construction process and make things happen… Oh wait, they already did that - remember Mascot Towers!
Behind the grand sandstone façade of Central Station is one of the ugliest parts of Sydney. I am happy to see plans for a total upgrade however as long as it doesn't become a future ghetto. The green spaces do look wonderful.
All green spaces look wonderful in artist's drawings but in reality they are not always as good nor are they used like the drawings. I'm old enough to remember a lot of these drawings & to see the finished results down through the years & they never match up!!
The design is ugly and impractical. The buildings are in scale too tall. The covered over rail lines will become a haven for rats, trash, cockroaches, dark, and longterm a homelessness haven. I have lived in London, Europe and the US and think a large arched roof over the platforms would be better. Something similar to Cologne Railway Station or the major railway stations in London. Trees growing on the concrete level above the railway lines is impractical and long term will degrade with water and moisture penetration the slab.
Platforms 1-12 are heritage listed. This is the first plan that was presented. The second, and most recent plan leaves the platforms open and untouched. The costs involved with this project are staggering. The engineering alone is around 50million. Construction over active train lines that handle over 250,000 riders each day. The underground rail lines, services, and utilities removal and re-routing would be many millions. Affordable housing, for who???
for the ones demographically replacing you
@@mehmeh5471 The ones demographically replacing us are... the next generations following us. That's what that means. Oh, did you mean a racial dogwhistle? I'm sure you couldn't possibly have meant that!
...for whoM, mate 😆
Affordable housing for not many, since the government or private developer will want to make a lot of money.
life doesn't stop for those unable to afford housing. it's not the governments job to pull people out of mud.
I just hope that no historic building get torn down they nave no right to do that ! After all those buildings belong to the people and not for development for convenience.
the city is taking very heavy consideration of the heritage of the station, the building will not be demolished or at all damaged, the space will be built over only the platforms and the central station building will be kept and minor things will be done to try improve the grand concourse and make it a nicer place to be
Mortuary station gardens looks nice I like the added green space, I just hope they keep the heritage places still.
Its the only bit i agree with.
Affordable housing for the rich, lets be honest..
They throw the affordable housing line into every development now now
'Affordable housing' as in rental spaces only. I was reading a few weeks ago how the govt has ok large overseas developers to build apartment blocks that are for rent only. They will also get tax incentives for this as well.
I hope they don't demolish the beautiful ARCHWAYS brick wall inside the grand concourse, the new look does look nice outside the country terminal ..
It's all heritage so it will likely need to be retained
They won’t as it’s all heritage listed, you can see they are still there in the artist impression
They don’t care about the heritage. They demolished willow grove in parramatta for the powerhouse museum. They have now said they can’t rebuild it. Which is a terrible shame as we are spending a lot of money to keep it in storage. I don’t mind the good lines park. I think it’s a terrible idea for the whole thing. The beauty is in the building. It takes away from the heritage of the place.
I agree 100%
What about the grave yards Central station and Sydney Town Hall replaced. Ghosts have been said to roam both sites.
@ronvorbach1464 The Town Hall graveyard was the first Sydney colonial cemetery that needed to be relocated as the city grew and expanded. The bodies were removed and relocated to Central and Rookwood when the town hall was constructed. Unfortunately, it appears that some bodies had not been removed. The cemetery had not been consecrated ( blessed) by the church (St Andrews Anglican Church), and the heritage significance wasn't recognised at that time in the colony, so less care was taken. However, the bodies were more carefully removed from the Central Station site by train from the then Mortuary Station to Woronora, Rookwood, and by road ( possibly tram) to Botany Cemetery. This was carefully considered and undertaken in order for the expansion of Central Station to cater to the transport needs of the ever growing city. The heritage status of the cemetery wasn't recognised due to the colonial nature of the city as the federation wasn't complete until 1901. The recognition of the historical significance of sandstone buildings and graveyards is a relatively recent issue with the development of the heritage registers and the appreciation of our history.
"Heritage" is about preserving meaning and history, not about living in a static museum or time capsule. The dynamic growth of Sydney is part of that history, which is why heritage can be preserved even while changing some aspects of the overall presentation.
I'm fascinated by the amount of affection shown to Willow Grove! It was such an ordinary building, unexceptional and not in any way special within the greater Sydney region. Nor was it historic or important within Parramatta itself - nothing like Old Government House and the far more interesting and older historic buildings and terraces around Parramatta.
Why would you say they don’t care about the heritage? Have you seen the approval process and the hoops they have to jump through?
Clearly, it’s been a long time since you worked on such a project. Things have changed dramatically in the past 40 years.
WTF is "affordable housing"... affordable for whom?
Not me i recon.
I'm of the view that all new buildings of more than 4 floors should have residential apartments included in the design to keep pace with the changing face of society and, this would help keep the city alive instead of just another dying city.
I love trains & railway heritage,
sadly, they've ruined the Grand concourse that I remember as a kid.
It used to be a bustling place with lots of places to sit, the tea rooms provided sustenance before departing or on arrival of your trip.
It was a good meeting point second only to Town Hall steps,
The digital timetable may be convenient but has none of the charm of the old wooden boards with individual station names.
There is barely anywhere to sit in the main concourse & all the dayglow ad screens clash with the beauty of what was once a really charming space to be in.
Dismantling heritage features to make way for modernity is not always the right course in certain spaces.
I’m from the bush and when I get to central I’m always going to Eddie Avenue, I love the coffee shop there
Which coffee shop?
The only one I know that is left has only been around for a couple of years
@@AlphaGeekgirl that’s the one, I’ve had coffee there a few times , I only get to Sydney now and then
Surely we have enough office space that goes unused anyway in the cbd. Sydney cbd is so corporate and devoid of culture and if they want to bring that back then why build more and more corporate office buildings that will inevitably go unused most of the time
@@Bigmoneygangsta I agree I don’t understand why anyone wants to be building any more office blocks in the Sydney cbd for a long time. Working from home & hot-desking is the current vogue, and there’s a surplus of office space that doesn’t look like going away for a while.
And this will ruin the Central station, make the platforms dingy and depressing. I so hope that funding falls through and it doesn’t happen.
a lot of the space will be housing as well, it does definitely seem a bit silly to be building too much more office space though yeah
@@SydneywithSam yes yes more condos for the wealthy just what Sydney needs.
There doesn't appear to be much/any? consideration for - Taxi/Uber - drop off and pick-up points. I spotted T and M indicators but no specific ranks.
I don't think they're intending on us driving while living in 15 minute cities
the station development is focusing on reducing car dependency not promoting it, its a train station, if you need to go somewhere you catch the train or a bus, not an uber, though the option is there you just have to find somewhere to be picked up and all.
The shrouding of the heritage main building by layers and layers of new infrastructure should be seriously reconsidered. There’s a lot to be said for preserving the scale and texture of the original Central Station building with the clock tower as a counterpoint. A more sensitive eye for the preservation of the classic architecture is really missing in this proposal. Given the scale of the proposed development there are numerous opportunities to create key vistas of the elegant old building without the over abundant layering of modern architecture obscuring jewel in the crown.
Additionally I hope there will be fewer place names with “Central” in the title. Perhaps place names honoring the aboriginal heritage of the location just as Gadigal was chosen for a station on the new Metro. Or something from Colonial times too. But the overall project looks marvelous.
I wish American cities were managed with as much vision and the execution done with alacrity as seen here. I live in California where projects tends to be proposed but greeted with skepticism because of the dismal track record of projects being buried and forgotten in short order or is way over budget or is poorly executed.
The city of LA recently completed a rail project that was requested in the 1980’s which was a vital missing link in the center of the city’s rail network. An absurd case of planners who don’t use transit. To travel from Santa Monica in the west to Pasadena in the east a distance of about 25 miles took me about two hours on three different lines. With the missing link completed it now takes about 90 minutes and two trains! That’s considered progress here! The missing link took over nine years and almost $2B to build adding only five stations each of which have very low ridership. And it looks pretty boring from an aesthetic point of view in contrast to the recently opened Metro line from Chatswood to Sydneham.
We could do with some serious self reflection here in the US while the rest of the world passes us by.
I grew up in Sydney so it’s wonderful to see my hometown become a world class city.
(Meanwhile here in the US of A we’re trying to fend off a mortal threat to our democracy.)
Thanks for a great video. I’ve liked and subscribed
Sounds like the “mortal threat” didn’t have anything to do with the magnificence of that link project… lol
Yes I agree with you, Kamala and the Democrats are a mortal threat to US and world democracy.
One thing that strikes me is that there is a lot of water lines, pipes etc implied by the plaza. The plants need watering and there is a water feature. They must avoid the mistake of putting this water and sewerage infrastructure under the plaza, visible to the trains. Accidents would flood the platforms and maininance would block the trains. They may have a hidden floor under the plaza for all the infrastructure. Those load bearing Columns will carrying a lot of weight they will need to be very dense reinforced concrete. Placing them on each platform will require that platform and its power systems to be taken off line. One platform is off line now, I believe, so hopefully that will not cause a shortage of space and capacity.
Thank's for your effort and presentation. New, I am, to your work. This one was of particular interest. However, at 74y/o, I may 😉.
All this reminds me of the opening of the Sydney Opera House. The first April fools day to follow some Architect students told the media that the Opera House was sinking and hence the government of the day hit panic mode calling in experts to double check and only to find out it was an April fools joke.
@@ronvorbach1464 I remember this well. 😂
I live relatively close to Central. If this goes ahead it will be a nightmare for crime & graffiti. There are already "For Lease" signs everywhere on office buildings. And what about cars, buses, taxis, etc.? There is a major road intersection where they're planning Mortuary Station park. To get from the northern end of the city to the southern end is already a nightmare. This will make it virtually impossible. It's not always practical to walk or bike everywhere, especially for travellers with suitcases or travelling with special needs. I agree some of the open spaces can be made more visually appealing (the view coming into/leaving Central is pretty bad), but overall I sincerely hope this does not go ahead.
Sick of developments for the other
They may be able to run steam trains to Mortuary station
Surprising how little public upgrades you get for a massive new suburb of commercial towers. looks like a terrible trade for us and a win for developers
State selling an underutilised public asset to supply more density in the best located part of the entire city is a good outcome for the city more generally. also improved connectivity and a few new decent public spaces are worthwhile.
They could always use air ventilation/suction systems for the platforms where diesel and steam trains start/stop.
They demolished s perfectly functioning tram shed to build that opera house.. !!!
It seems like they are attempting to sell acceptance of building towers by distracting with emphasis on the public spaces aspect of the project.
Personally, I would rather look at the architecture of the towers. It will be the people brought in by both office and apartment towers that will be the major factor in revitalizing the area, and giving life to these public spaces. It should also make that end of the CBD far more visually interesting.
The area above the rail lines has always been essentially wasted space, and building above it is logical, and as these renders show, a great addition to the city.
I remember the bleak emptiness of the old buildings along Broadway, and how the cluster of towers along there breathed life into what is now a very vibrant part of the city and is visually exciting. The tower developments at Central should have a similar transformative sort of effect.
if what we get is anything like what's in the renders I'm pretty exited, Sydney needs more interesting architecture that isn't more concrete boxes, the buildings at Barangaroo and the new buildings for UTS are really nicely designed and things like that would be so good for the skyline
@@SydneywithSam Fortunately that minimalist concrete box sort of architecture is no longer the fashion and the new architectural styles are far more visually pleasing.
@@artistjohyes agreed, modern architecture styles are really nice and visually interesting, it’s really good
I suspect the low hanging fruit/ easy development around the edges will be developed and the over station development left in the too hard/too expensive basket
Eddy Ave should be turned in to a plaza to connect t Belmore Park with the station
Looks great but with how things work in this city, I’d be dead by then… I’m 42 😅
I just hope that this is future-proofed to allow for HSR if/when it arrives. I would hate for them to need to dig some dumb underground expensive station box just because they didn't leave room when building this development.
I guess we won't be seeing the Corella making their stop off at Douglas park on Eddy Avenue there while or after the 'affordable' residential monster is erected
Wow. That's mammoth!
I sometimes drop family/friends off at Central or pick them up ....by car. I see the current drop off/pick up spot is being turned into a park. Yes great! But how do people who arrive from distant places with multiple suitcases etc. get from Central to their next destination? Clearly considerable thought should be going into provision for this: Connection to light rail/buses, taxis, private car pick up and drop off etc. And if the idea is that they can transfer to local rail services then decent provision needs to be made to accommodate suitcase
s. Tokyo has it for services to Narita airport ...but we don't have it on our rail link to the airport.
What is with Sydney's obsession with palm tress in any new developments? they don't fit our aesthetic at all
So OT will be an Australian version of the Hudson yards project I NYC
Ah yes, gotta monetize every inch of land. I'm so tired.
As opposed to too many under utilised land? I am tired too.
the thing is Sydney is a growing city and have reached its practical limit for outwards expansion, up is the most logical and sensible way to go and utilizing land like this is important, it is a good thing, it provides housing and jobs and community space, developments like this are important and good for the city
Yet another shiny trinket hot mess/garbage tourist trap & "green space" like Darling Harbour, etc... No money to maintain the current neglected infrastructure, & they rip up the already chaotic dedicated cycle ways that would actually make the city money, remove conflicts between motorists & cyclists, & improve health & environment
@@PeterKnagge Darling Harbour is great.
@@k.vn.k it looks good, it's functionality as a workspace is abysmal.
there comes times where every space may well have to be redone, heritage can't always last, especially in somewhere like Sydney. To me this is a really good new proposal which makes good use of the space for mixed commercial and residential use, creates really nice looking new spaces, and helps connect the surrounds, all while keeping the central station building and making some minor improvements inside and around to greatly improve the grand concourse. I'm all for this project!
It won't make a difference to the migrants coming in. What do they care about our history?
Enough. ferchristsakes enough development in central inner sydney, the outer suburbs are bulging at the seams with migration ..outer south west has been marked as growth corridors for over a decade and have still got zip all. Try catching PT from Narellan or Wetherill Park or Liverpool. Ridiculous that for places like Dulwich hill where albanese lives has a Metro,a light rail ,a heavy rail and bus and is only 10km from the CBD anyway.
development is needed in the inner-city to allow people to move closer to the city, building more housing close to and in the city allows people to move closer in and reduces strain on outer suburbs, reduces travel times, and allows for more connectivity.
though in saying that development further out is also a good idea inner and outer city developments are both important for the growth of the city
I’m all for beautification but a lot of these plans aren’t practical. Central Station needs more expansion to cater for the needs of the future. And I’m not talking about needing more metro type of platforms and rail lines . I’m talking of needing more rail lines and platforms that can handle the newer double decker trains to come. Because the only other solution is to build a second “terminus/hub somewhere else which may be impractical in some people’s eyes because they’ll want it all in one central ( no pun intended) location…… ⚛️☮️🌏
I don’t like it. I like the open air platforms and sunshine. The only thing I ever want to see built over them is a possible glass canopy.
I sincerely hope this all falls through and never happens.
I hope it goes through, I regularly travel on the train from Melbourne to Central, and something needs to be done with the concourse and platforms.
@@janetpendlebury6808 How do you mean?
@@janetpendlebury6808 Well Janet?
the space needs some revitalisation as well as it is land that is underutilised and would really benefit from the new green spaces and residential/commercial development
@@SydneywithSam How are busy railway corridors logically “under-utilised”?
What utter tosh, areas adjacent to the tracks on either side are doing fine and have been for over a century. This is just gimmicky developer tosh.
Looks fantastic!
However fancy they will dress it up to be, it's still always going to be peasant's transport.
I don’t get the idea of building affordable housing in the city with tax payers money. If you cannot afford to live in the middle of the city just move out of it! Like all other ordinary people do.
I like the look of it. We may need a liberal coalition government to get it done though.👍
Yep. Cut all the safety certifications and red tape out of the construction process and make things happen… Oh wait, they already did that - remember Mascot Towers!
@@markd.9538 lol nothing to do with any government. A Private building firm built it and a private company inspected it.
Seriously
@@tedes72 Yes, that is precisely the problem.
It’s not built yet
Honestly, looks amazing
Sad and horrible. So depressing. Zero respect for the past and heritage. Sterile.
Behind the grand sandstone façade of Central Station is one of the ugliest parts of Sydney. I am happy to see plans for a total upgrade however as long as it doesn't become a future ghetto. The green spaces do look wonderful.
All green spaces look wonderful in artist's drawings but in reality they are not always as good nor are they used like the drawings. I'm old enough to remember a lot of these drawings & to see the finished results down through the years & they never match up!!
If the plans go ahead as is I think it'll be alright. Looks good to me.
lol the whole things been canned!
WTH……???!!! 😡😡
The design is ugly and impractical. The buildings are in scale too tall. The covered over rail lines will become a haven for rats, trash, cockroaches, dark, and longterm a homelessness haven.
I have lived in London, Europe and the US and think a large arched roof over the platforms would be better. Something similar to Cologne Railway Station or the major railway stations in London.
Trees growing on the concrete level above the railway lines is impractical and long term will degrade with water and moisture penetration the slab.