The (real) Roots of Neo-paganism
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Excellent! A lot of Heathens will loathe this - "veritas odium parit"; "the truth begets hatred" - it isn't what they want to hear, they will ignore the evidence you present and also ignore the qualifications and learning you possess in favour of what they 'intuitively feel'. Regarding the runestock lunar calendars, I was interested to hear you mention that these appeared in Sweden at a time when European scientific work on calendars was becoming more widely known. A strange coincidence. Yet we know from the work of Andreas Nordberg and Göran Henriksson that these lunar calendars (perhaps not in stick form) were known, understood and measured - the Uppsala mounds can be used to predict the greater lunar cycles. One of the rune sticks at Uppsala was ancient and had clearly been kept in the owner's family for a long time; it was only when an academic at Uppsala University met this man runestocks came to the attention of the wider world.
Timelines are very important. Less for the exact years but for the flow of everything. Happy to see this discussed on your channel.
As thought provoking and entertaining as usual! I especially liked the fact that when making the correlation between Satanism, metal music and modern Heathenry you used that picture of Gorgoroth. A black metal band with Satanic imagery but, in that incarnation, it featured two members who went on to found Wardruna. That was a pretty spot on way to further drive the point home, so to speak.
First of all, thank you for this insightful overview. Apropos the t-shirt and the content. The Finnish professor emeritus of Assyriology, Simo Parpola, argues that the Kabbalistic Tree of Life has Mesopotamian origins, in that the Mesopotamian pantheon, according to Parpola, neatly fits onto the kabbalistic/hermetic Tree of Life. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on Parpola’s theory in particular, and the religious history of the notion of The World Tree in general. Not least because you seem to suggest that Yggdrasil and the kabbalistic Tree of Life are often conflated. I also cannot help but wonder what your thoughts are on the work of the Danish occultist Erwin Neutzsky-Wulff. Considering that he has done work on the history of Western esotericism since the 1980s, I simply cannot imagine he has escaped your attention, yet he is not represented on the chart. Nice to see Grønbech on your timeline though and good point with the Grundtvigian psalm book.
P.S. I realize that the comment section is not suited for in-depth responses, but perhaps these topics could be explored at some later time on this channel.
Mine tanker om Erwin.. - Yea - det er en længere samtale :-)
- men selvfølgelig kunne man have nævnt Erwin som en stemme i den esoteriske tradition. Det virkede bare lidt for DK-marginalt. Jeg tænkte faktisk ikke engang på det...
@@NordicAnimism Being non-Danish, I would love to hear more about this Erwin guy and his research, if relevant for any future video theme. And I'm definitely going to look into Simo Parpola right now!
That claim by parapola sounds suspect, and reminiscent of many orientalist follies of juxtaposition. Or superposition, really. But it is literally Orientalism as described by Edward Said, who wrote the book ‘Orientalism’. It reads history backwards to establish a connection between two ethnographic knowledge-objects.
The Spindle of Ananke in Plato's Myth of Er describes a similar emanation structure with astrological correspondences that describes the ascent and descent of transmigrating souls through various heavenly spheres. Since this appears a millennia before kabbalistic texts and Jewish mysticism is deeply influenced by Plato I think we should rather trace the common influence behind platonic thought and Jewish thought : Zoroastrianism (the endonym of which literally translates to love of wisdom), which would lend credit to an eastern origin.
Thank you for this lesson. Even though it is complicated, you have managed to make time lines and connections a bit more organized with your white board.
Great video! Have to finish it later, but every time the camera cuts to lizard pope I cackled.
Enjoyed this - vikingwashing made me smile. Also where did you get your wand?
I will take some time to digest this. This was an AWESOME lesson! Thankyou very much for this!
Thank you for the awesome free content bro
Amazing overview! Thank you so much!
Been meaning to watch this for ages. I'm glad I did because it was rather brilliant. And great whiteboard work man, it's soon become a lost art. 😁
26:20 is my favorite part
I really enjoy your work. Much appreciated
Wow, this is so good! Thank you!
See I can get behind this
Try this on for size
ruclips.net/video/DR95emuiVc8/видео.html
Even if Asatru (mostly US or influenced-by groups) has influences from Wicca, there are people totally reject any wiccan (or druid-like/ new age - because they have too shallow, artificial, non- historical aspects) influences, and do their best to build something historically relevant (especially about celebrations and calendars) - the "true" reconstructionnist heathens - a thing that also takes for celtic beliefs place, outside the freemason influenced druidry - i mean john toland or iolo morganwg stuff.
Romanticism always assumes a sort of crooked position in modernity. Unfailingly. This is an amazing video by the way
Hej hej! I was wondering, the name is hard for me to catch, where does the quote come from "He belongs to the people (the folk) who counts himself thereof"? - it is around 23 minutes
Grundtvig
Grundtvig who is like the official ideological reference point and patron saint of Denmark. Like more important than George Washington for the US. The national church is mostly (there are some divisions of course) evangelical Grundtvigian, large parts of the school system claims to be based on Grundtvig's ideas, the democracy itself is often claimed to be Grundtvigsk as is freedom of speech, freedom of religion... etc etc.
This, of course, does not mean anyone who makes these claims necessarily knows what ideas they are supposed to represent or that they follow them in any way.
Impressing and inspiring thx
So good. Thank you.
Important video. Thank you
The dismissive comments on Tolkien devalue this lecture.
I have problems with Tolkien. Unfortunately they are only comprehensively formulated in my own language, but if you can be bothered with some Google Translate, then check it out:
www.academia.edu/11082403/Om_heroer_og_havenisser
@@NordicAnimism Thank you - I shall read it; I am interested in your position. Many Brits like myself found their way into Nordic culture via Tolkien's works, so I found your words on him in the lecture quite harsh.
@@NordicAnimism I have read your excellent article on Tolkien.
I would agree that pagan heroism has a very differnt moral position to that of Christian heroism. Nietzsche said that the heroes of Homer and of the Norse Sagas exist in the framework of master morality. While a Christianised Epic like the LOTR exemplifies slave morality, i.e., the morality of Good versus Evil.
The Iliad is therefore a war between the equals of a warrior nobility. Whereas the LOTR is like a 'race war', that of wicked races versus good races [which aligns to class in England - you rightly touch open the master/servant relationship between Frodo and Sam].
In a race war, both sides dehumanise each other, as the inhuman enemy, but we see it only from the perspective of the 'good' in the LOTR.
But does this make Tolkien a Nazi?
Well, Tolkien actually despised Hitler as he expressed in his letters to his son. He despised Hitler mainly because the Fuhrer is lower class, a wicked scum of the earth, a man of bad education and of bad race.
The One Ring is like the One Reich and the conflagration when the ring is destroyed reminds one of Dresden and Hiroshima.
The dark hordes of Sauron et al are inflected with the Black Shirts of the fascists and the SS - and yes, the Orcs do not replicate via sexual reproduction, but via the industry of mass production..
The lack of sex - and of the erotic in Tolkien's work, which you describe so well, is also typical of the race war. Miscegenation must be avoided at all costs, and so sex and the erotic are banished from view like Victorian piano legs.
Can you put the ukrainian pagan movements in context and compare them to russian Neo-Paganism? Thanks a lot
Thats totally outside my competence field
"Pagan queer" is redundant
One man's opinion and nothing more!
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Pagan comes from a latin words meaning country dweller. It tells you everything you need to know about what a pagan is supposed to be. Most neo pagans dont know that