Can you make one of the Palm Sunday Massacre, just four days before this ? That was a far bigger massacre and air battle. As I recall, some 4,000 German paratroopers or infantry were killed. Exactly the same scenario.- the Spitfire Vcs and P-40Fs climbed to engage the Me 109s, while most of the P -40s took out the Ju 52s. The P-40 pilots were sickened when their 50-caliber rounds smashed into the transports' cabins, turning the windows and insides red as they sliced the men inside to little pieces.
@@ricardorao2012 It’s 1thing to read the statistics It’s another thing to see the blood flow from one’s own bullets. The Finnish soldiers in the 1939-40 Winter War were sickened at the piles of corpses of the soviet invaders. The nazi paratroopers & mountain troops bound for Crete died in similar droves too.
Please would you lower the volume or remove the "dramatic background music." It is difficult to make out your excellent informative commentary. Thankyou.
Ultra was key to winning the war. Unfortunately, from 1941-42 the US "Black Code" had been compromised from the US Embassy in Italy and the Axis were privy to every message send by the US consolate in Cairo about strategies and movements in N.Africa. That stopped in about April 1942 when Churchill notified Roosevelt that his int people had blown it.
One of the trickier parts of using Ultra intelligence was keeping it a secret at the same time. Often, 'reconnaissance flights' were sent out into areas where enemy forces were known to be (via Ultra) so that said enemy forces could see them and think 'we got unlucky' rather than 'how did they know'.
Just found this channel. Great info and entertaining to watch. I thought I knew a lot about WW ll aircraft and battles, but did not know about this. Well done!
My late uncle Windsor Jacobs also flew for 5 Squadron in Northern Italy using P51's , he also saw service in North Africa , not sure what squadron though , but he did fly P40's and Hurricanes
@@jasonleerjason5001 I have some pictures of squadron's time in Sicily and Italy. I know Roger flew a number of missions in Yugoslavia. Apparently the "borrowed" a piano in Sicily and dragged it around with them. I have a picture of it sitting in muddy puddle somewhere in Italy.
@@condor4679123 That's awesome Rory , my uncle passed away in Port Elizabeth about 4 years ago.... I also remember him telling me he used to ferry F4 Corsair 's from Malta to Alexandria
Superb work as always. Of course, the battle was more than just a turkey shoot for the Allies - every transport shot down meant that the Afrika Korps had less resources to use to kill Allied troops.
Thanks a lot for this. As an ex Saffa now living in Australia, its great to hear of the exploits of the SAAF and RAAF. My late uncle served with the SAAF in that theatre. Perhaps some more of these "colonial" forces exploits in WWII.
When the first US fighter squadrons were deployed to North Africa in 1942(before Torch) Montgomery coupled them with SAAF and RAAF units to learn desert tactics. So us Yanks owe alot to you for showing us the ropes as it were. We still took serious losses(nowhere near as bad as the against the Japanese, those were far more catastrophic) but then again so did everyone else i believe.
Prime Minister Churchill made a short reference to this event in his retelling of the history of the Second World War. Time Life Books condensed that multi- book story into one book for high school students. At last, I get to see how the Luftwaffe airplanes looked on this epic day in the history of the liberation of North Africa. At last I get to hear the story in some detail. Find the book in a used book store with this information: The Second World War by Winston S. Churchill.
They should have taken off at night in small groups and planned their arrival before dawn and had airfield lit up to receive them. Risky but not as risky as flying in daylight hours.
The Germans didn't have inertial navigational radar systems. This is because Goering focused more on production quantity which resulted in the omission of avionics that would have allowed the Germans to more flying at night.
@@cedricliggins7528 i think your right. I've read that the Germans used sextants on the Eastern front during night transport flights in 1942 so you'd figure they'd suck it up and develop one lol.
@@adamjaquay4279 soviet civil aviation used sextants and visual navigation well into the 70s. Its why their airliners had glazed noses and bubbles on top of the aircraft.
A relative , Major Henry Gaynor , flew with SAAF number 1 squadron , but does not appear from my reference book ( Eagles Strike by Brown ) to be amongst the pilots with 33 victories at Cape Bon on 19 April 1943 . He was killed in Italy in March 1944 and is buried at The Commonwealth Cemetary Anzio. He hit a cable while strafing .His total bag was 51/2.He did however participate in the famous ‘Stuka ‘ party over Alamein on 3 July 1942. The SAAF were in Hurricanes , the RAF 274 , were in Spitfires providing top cover .And we’re in a major fight with the Messersmits . When it was all over 13 Stuka & a Mechersmitt were in flames . Henry bagged 2. The whole affair was greatly appreciated by troops on the ground , whom the Stukas regularly terrorized .
Superb work as usual, I really like the way you depict the details (eg. corresponding serials for the Spit Mk.Vc) and the markings for the individual aircraft with names of their pilots. No one else in YT goes into so much detail in their videos like you do. Keep up the great work 👍
Let's hear it for the SAAF! [In addition to other honorable service supporting El Alamein and its aftermath, etc., etc.] [And goes to show that courageous pilots could get results out of their Kittyhawks, even if they ranked below the latest versions of Me-109s.]
Note: the Ju52s made it to their base unscathed. The collision at 12:39 did not actually occur, this is simply how the simulation played out and I decided to leave it in. German skins available here: www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?view.358, www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=832
Even with the most painstaking programming of visual effects there will sometimes be unplanned accidents such as mid-air collisions, so goes in the fog of war.
"The collision at 12:39 did not actually occur, this is simply how the simulation played out and I decided to leave it in."; never let the truth interfere with a good story, eh?
You didn't mention the Italian Macchi 202's and RE 2001's who ran away as described by J. Ambrose Brown, Eagles Strike (Purnell Capetown, S. AFRICA) To be fair, not all the Italian fighters ran as an RE 2001 stayed around long enough to be shot down by Lt. Moon as it dived to attack 4 and 5 Squadron.
I remember as a young boy, seeing grainy black and white pictures of this battle in Books 📖 so fabulous to see it come to life!! Great job @Soto Cinematic!! Cheers 🥂
Your movies are so well made, all aircraft and the actual air battle thoroughly researched. I always really enjoy watching your recent additions. This brutal slaughter reminds me of that other tragic luftwaffe disaster at the Kurland pocket in 1945. Ju-52 transports with luftwaffe personnel and even their families on board being caught over the Baltic sea by the Soviet air force....Yak fighters and even Stormovik ground attack aircraft blowing the german transports out of the sky.
As usual well done. I've been learning a lot from your editing skills and love this game. A German pilot guessed the imminent disaster when he heard of this attempt. The Luftwaffe had no other options, Rommel was thirsty, his troops literally dying for fresh supplies. Monty took advantage of this the best he could.
@@LeopardIL2 Rather than get sentimental about the German pilots-after all, they were soldiers, not civilians-I always think in terms of ‘who started this war,’ and it wasn’t the RAF. They knew that they had to do everything in their power to keep as many German planes from meeting their objectives as they could, as a step toward ultimate victory. The Luftwaffe had already killed far too many English, Polish, Dutch, Soviet, etc etc civilians as it was.
They didn't require a 4 engined bomber till it was too late .. but all airforces need transport aircraft .. there are a few airforces today that don't have any big bomber aircraft .. but they definately have TRANSPORT aircraft . Britain never developed a 6 engined transport aircraft did we .. we didn't need it .. but we needed the 4 engined bomber didn't we ..
No matter how good Rommel and the Afrika Korps were, they could never win without supplies. Kudos to the Allied airmen who contributed to the starvation. But I do wonder . . . (a foolish question, I'm sure) did the South African Air Force ever have any Black pilots?
2,799 P40's Lend Leased to Britain. Under article V of the 1942 Lend Lease agreement every item LL remained the property of the US until lost, consumed or destroyed.
I didn't realize that many of the P-40s were equipped with the Packard Merlin known as the "Packard 20" which gave the fighter excellent performance. Both German and Italian pilots had a lot of respect for it as a low-altitude fighter.
When your troops are desperate then you have to do what you need to do supply them .. They probably cannot wait for "the right time" which would never probably happen in war .. It wouldn't have been waste ful had it succeeded would it ....idiot. Much like the guys at Stalingrad.. Starving troops can't wait for the right time
This was the Mediterranean equivalent of the battle of the Bismarck Sea in the Pacific, in the same year. ‘dolf for his fetishism of his darling feldmarschall Rommel’s generalship, got handed down to himself another doubled-down Stalingrad. After Alamein & Torch, Rommel decided there’s nothing else to do but cut & run out of Afrika But his dear fuehrer ordered him to stay & fight, vanquish or die. So he sent more troops & arms to Tunisia to in the end provide : - the 🇺🇸 with much needed training - the 🇬🇧 with the apotheosis of their African Trilogy - the 🇮🇹 with the iron will to get out of the war - nazi Germany with another giant defeat - & himself, ‘dolf, with a Colonel Stauffenberg & his bomb 💣
Makes you think it was planned .. after all WHY would the 323's deviate from the flight path? , why not stay with the JU52's and the main fighter escort ... Maybe they sacrificed themselves so the JU52's could survive .. Which they did!! .. No JU52 was lost..i believe.
German had very easy fighting defence air-transport fly order, it was strategy mistake...l believe what Germany Luftwaffe JG's was destroy Allies Air Force yet in 1942 after happens El-Alamein.
While at the same time submarine plus light Naval forces and Beufighters harassed and merchant ships and German Naval forces who tried to supply the remaining Africa Korp and other retreating German forces..
We all know this wasn't filmed in IL-2 BOX not because that game doesn't feature 323's but rather because those P-40s' would have blown their engines 1 minute after filming started ;)
@@davidlipman8093 So true David, but it still remains they were completely stupid not giving fighter cover! It was an amazing glider. War is such a waste. It makes me think of that Giant Ukrainian Jet with 6 massive engines. What an Aircraft, it came to Christchurch New Zealand, delivering a massive payload. Such a waste that the Russians blew it up! Cheers Cobber From New Zealand!
@@davidlipman8093 Hi David, the Glider version was designated as the Me 321 and looked similar but not the same as the Me 323. A lot of German aircraft had some Gliding heritage... if it could glide it probably could fly well
@@robertmiller2173 interestingly, the Luftwaffe trained their pilots on gliders before the war so as not to raise suspicion from the victors of the first world war.
After Rommel's defeat at El Aleman the H man should have evacuated North Africa, especially after operation Torch. The amount of recourses & men he lost could have been better deployed elsewhere.
Excellent use of Il-2 1946 game play and editing! I must point out that your description incorrectly credits Il-2 Great Battles, which is a much later iteration of the venerable Il-2 series. Il-2 1946 is a direct descendant--using the very same game engine--of the original Il-2 Sturmovik released way back in the dim mistiness of 2001. 😉 In spite of its age, '46 remains a very engaging air combat sim, as demonstrated so ably in this fine production. Good show!
Very well done. The simulation makes the battle come to life, as well as the bios and pictures of the flyers. It did raise a few questions: Why did the Nazis assign too few escort fighters to this effort: did they use all the airplanes they had available, or did they think that the mission would go undetected? If the cargo had made it over unscathed, how long would it have kept Afrika Korps in operation; i.e., how many of those missions would they have had to run per week or per month? Where can I go to learn more about this operation?
The 323's initially stayed with the Ju52's which had a bigger fighter escort .. The actually all survived.. If the 323's had stayed in formation with the JU52's then more then likely some would have survived / or the Ju52's would have suffered the same fate also. It wasn't through lack of escort fighters .. it was the fact that they split the escorts ..some with the 323,s and the bulk with the Ju52's
Aloha! Your work is terrifically produced. The research and detail is tremendous. This might be a challenge, but may I suggest a depiction of the Battle of the Bismarck Sea?
You state that there were only 10 Me 109s and they shot down 5/30 Allied planes. According to the accounts of Polish pilots. They were in the highest formation. There were 20 Me 109s. And it was these 6 Poles who first attacked the 20 Me 109s where they shot down the 6th Canadian and South African Divisions destroying the transports
I doubt any of them could survive swimming so far from shore. I only see them surviving if their flight suits were also equipped with inflatable life vests. I don’t know what standard equipment for transport pilots was in WW2 so I can’t say.
altough the Cross from tunisia to sicily was a disaster, on other hand, the return of they axis forces from sicily to the continent was very sucefull..really My opinion was quite controversial, but, based on a lot of fact, they perfomance of Rommel, wich was not only the DAK commander but they chief of they 3 armies forces was very bad
I think as a pilot of those 323s having been intercepted I'd have the crew parachute out for them to have a chance to survive a hopeless situation. And be ready to jump myself if getting shot up. From the vidio planes were so low even when guys jumped the chutes couldn't open in time.
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Can you make one of the Palm Sunday Massacre, just four days before this ?
That was a far bigger massacre and air battle.
As I recall, some 4,000 German paratroopers or infantry were killed.
Exactly the same scenario.- the Spitfire Vcs and P-40Fs climbed to engage the Me 109s, while most of the P -40s took out the Ju 52s.
The P-40 pilots were sickened when their 50-caliber rounds smashed into the transports' cabins, turning the windows and insides red as they sliced the men inside to little pieces.
Why on Earth would they be sickened? To kill 4 k nazis in a fight made them laugh and cheers.
@@ricardorao2012
It’s 1thing to read the statistics
It’s another thing to see the blood flow from one’s own bullets.
The Finnish soldiers in the 1939-40 Winter War were sickened at the piles of corpses of the soviet invaders.
The nazi paratroopers & mountain troops bound for Crete died in similar droves too.
@@ricardorao2012 Socialism is evil
I appreciate the references in the subtitles. Thanks. I can't find all but most. Great work.
If you're looking for the texts I cited please view the description
Please would you lower the volume or remove the "dramatic background music." It is difficult to make out your excellent informative commentary. Thankyou.
I’m surprised the Germans didn’t fly at night, which would give them some measure of protection under the cloak of darkness.
Thanks for stating that the British intelligence new of this German flight, and informed the fighter squadrons!
Ultra was key to winning the war.
Unfortunately, from 1941-42 the US "Black Code" had been compromised from the US Embassy in Italy and the Axis were privy to every message send by the US consolate in Cairo about strategies and movements in N.Africa. That stopped in about April 1942 when Churchill notified Roosevelt that his int people had blown it.
Bletchley Park..........on the job again.
The war was won via Ultra. !!
@@spikespa5208 The war was won using Ultra.
One of the trickier parts of using Ultra intelligence was keeping it a secret at the same time. Often, 'reconnaissance flights' were sent out into areas where enemy forces were known to be (via Ultra) so that said enemy forces could see them and think 'we got unlucky' rather than 'how did they know'.
Just found this channel. Great info and entertaining to watch. I thought I knew a lot about WW ll aircraft and battles, but did not know about this. Well done!
Why do you have to do that. I wanted to watch this...now @ 1.31 I am out of here
What game is this?
IL-2 1946 with BAT mod
“It is good that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it.” - R.E. Lee
All of history up to this moment attest to the fact that men haven’t come close to tiring of war. Would to God that they’d stop!
My father in law Lt R H Humphrey who was probably the youngest pilot is No. 5 squadron SAAF was credited with downing 2 ME 323s during this operation.
My late uncle Windsor Jacobs also flew for 5 Squadron in Northern Italy using P51's , he also saw service in North Africa , not sure what squadron though , but he did fly P40's and Hurricanes
@@jasonleerjason5001 I have some pictures of squadron's time in Sicily and Italy. I know Roger flew a number of missions in Yugoslavia. Apparently the "borrowed" a piano in Sicily and dragged it around with them. I have a picture of it sitting in muddy puddle somewhere in Italy.
@@condor4679123 That's awesome Rory , my uncle passed away in Port Elizabeth about 4 years ago.... I also remember him telling me he used to ferry F4 Corsair 's from Malta to Alexandria
Can't imagine a worse job than piloting an Me323.
Kamikaze pilot ...
Superb work as always.
Of course, the battle was more than just a turkey shoot for the Allies - every transport shot down meant that the Afrika Korps had less resources to use to kill Allied troops.
How can the Me109s "Dive to engage the Spitfires", when the Me109s are flying low and the Spitfires are flying high? That makes no sense.
Thanks a lot for this. As an ex Saffa now living in Australia, its great to hear of the exploits of the SAAF and RAAF. My late uncle served with the SAAF in that theatre. Perhaps some more of these "colonial" forces exploits in WWII.
When the first US fighter squadrons were deployed to North Africa in 1942(before Torch) Montgomery coupled them with SAAF and RAAF units to learn desert tactics. So us Yanks owe alot to you for showing us the ropes as it were. We still took serious losses(nowhere near as bad as the against the Japanese, those were far more catastrophic) but then again so did everyone else i believe.
Such a terrible waste of troops by bad planning. Those Germans on the troop planes didn't have a chance given how they were tightly packed in.
Minimal losses to the Allies. But for the Axis, total loss of their ability to supply.
Hey Soto, not all the Ju-52's made it to North Africa from that battle, the USAAF attacked the Ju-52's
Prime Minister Churchill made a short reference to this event in his retelling of the history of the Second World War. Time Life Books condensed that multi- book story into one book for high school students. At last, I get to see how the Luftwaffe airplanes looked on this epic day in the history of the liberation of North Africa. At last I get to hear the story in some detail. Find the book in a used book store with this information:
The Second World War by Winston S. Churchill.
The audio balance on this video is so heavy on the "background" music that it's difficult to hear the narrative.
Interesting but the 'background' music is totally overwhelming and unnecessary.
A great many lives of Allied forces on the ground were saved by this endeavour.
Don't understand why the Germans didn't time the trip so that they landed in Tunisia just as it was getting light.
They should have taken off at night in small groups and planned their arrival before dawn and had airfield lit up to receive them. Risky but not as risky as flying in daylight hours.
The plan was to utterly destroy the Nazis in WW2 not let them win
Visuals are from IL-2Sturmovik: 1946, not from Great Battles.
2:29 Wondrium returned to it's anti-radiation, lead-lined container.;)
Why didn't the Germans fly at night in order to evade the allied fighters?
Forgor 💀
They did not know about the Carrots then.
The Germans didn't have inertial navigational radar systems. This is because Goering focused more on production quantity which resulted in the omission of avionics that would have allowed the Germans to more flying at night.
@@cedricliggins7528 i think your right. I've read that the Germans used sextants on the Eastern front during night transport flights in 1942 so you'd figure they'd suck it up and develop one lol.
@@adamjaquay4279 soviet civil aviation used sextants and visual navigation well into the 70s. Its why their airliners had glazed noses and bubbles on top of the aircraft.
Sad that hundreds of young men were needlessly sacrificed.
A relative , Major Henry Gaynor , flew with SAAF number 1 squadron , but does not appear from my reference book ( Eagles Strike by Brown ) to be amongst the pilots with 33 victories at Cape Bon on 19 April 1943 . He was killed in Italy in March 1944 and is buried at The Commonwealth Cemetary Anzio. He hit a cable while strafing .His total bag was 51/2.He did however participate in the famous ‘Stuka ‘ party over Alamein on 3 July 1942. The SAAF were in Hurricanes , the RAF 274 , were in Spitfires providing top cover .And we’re in a major fight with the Messersmits . When it was all over 13 Stuka & a Mechersmitt were in flames . Henry bagged 2. The whole affair was greatly appreciated by troops on the ground , whom the Stukas regularly terrorized .
Superb work as usual, I really like the way you depict the details (eg. corresponding serials for the Spit Mk.Vc) and the markings for the individual aircraft with names of their pilots. No one else in YT goes into so much detail in their videos like you do. Keep up the great work 👍
Let's hear it for the SAAF! [In addition to other honorable service supporting El Alamein and its aftermath, etc., etc.] [And goes to show that courageous pilots could get results out of their Kittyhawks, even if they ranked below the latest versions of Me-109s.]
Note: the Ju52s made it to their base unscathed. The collision at 12:39 did not actually occur, this is simply how the simulation played out and I decided to leave it in.
German skins available here: www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?view.358, www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?action=view&id=832
Even with the most painstaking programming of visual effects there will sometimes be unplanned accidents such as mid-air collisions, so goes in the fog of war.
"The collision at 12:39 did not actually occur, this is simply how the simulation played out and I decided to leave it in."; never let the truth interfere with a good story, eh?
If my memory serves me well,there was another one,close to that time. Would you share this one,also?
Polish Spitfire fighter pilots vs German transport/ fighter pilots. 😎
It was well made, but sad to watch though. These were all young men in the prime of their lives that perished. RIP
They should have made a statement at the start. No pilots were actually hurt in the making of this video......😀......
Because of stupid old men.
Except virtually all of the pilots were killed in the making of the story for this video.
Yeah, poor Nazi pos.
Young and highly talented educated men
Weird. I end up feeling sorry for the German transport aircraft.
Always wondered why the Germans did not make this attempt at night.
Brave German pilots and personell! 😎💪💙🍀🐺
Great video, quality great, loved the splash in the sea from the guns. Very realistic.
Just missing the P-38 lightnings and beaufighters
You didn't mention the Italian Macchi 202's and RE 2001's who ran away as described by J. Ambrose Brown, Eagles Strike (Purnell Capetown, S. AFRICA)
To be fair, not all the Italian fighters ran as an RE 2001 stayed around long enough to be shot down by Lt. Moon as it dived to attack 4 and 5 Squadron.
I remember as a young boy, seeing grainy black and white pictures of this battle in Books 📖 so fabulous to see it come to life!! Great job @Soto Cinematic!! Cheers 🥂
This felt like watching a great 60's WW2 movie.
Great video; goes to show that no matter how brave or competent a soldier is they are still victims of stupid command decisions.
Why were they flying in daytime? Suicide.
Your movies are so well made, all aircraft and the actual air battle thoroughly researched. I always really enjoy watching your recent additions. This brutal slaughter reminds me of that other tragic luftwaffe disaster at the Kurland pocket in 1945. Ju-52 transports with luftwaffe personnel and even their families on board being caught over the Baltic sea by the Soviet air force....Yak fighters and even Stormovik ground attack aircraft blowing the german transports out of the sky.
Great Question°°
That incident would make a great video!
As usual well done. I've been learning a lot from your editing skills and love this game. A German pilot guessed the imminent disaster when he heard of this attempt. The Luftwaffe had no other options, Rommel was thirsty, his troops literally dying for fresh supplies. Monty took advantage of this the best he could.
Bletchley Park mo doubt deserves their fair share of credit and the South African Air Force (am a Safa so had to throw that in)
@@Wolf-hh4rv They did outstandingly but those were sitting ducks.
@@LeopardIL2 Rather than get sentimental about the German pilots-after all, they were soldiers, not civilians-I always think in terms of ‘who started this war,’ and it wasn’t the RAF. They knew that they had to do everything in their power to keep as many German planes from meeting their objectives as they could, as a step toward ultimate victory. The Luftwaffe had already killed far too many English, Polish, Dutch, Soviet, etc etc civilians as it was.
What amazes me is the Germans could build a heavy 6-engine transport but not a heavy 4-engine bomber?
They didn't require a 4 engined bomber till it was too late .. but all airforces need transport aircraft .. there are a few airforces today that don't have any big bomber aircraft .. but they definately have TRANSPORT aircraft . Britain never developed a 6 engined transport aircraft did we .. we didn't need it .. but we needed the 4 engined bomber didn't we ..
Great video, and hats off to the SAAF!! Their valiant acts helped secure victory in that campaign theater.
I can’t watch anymore it’s just a massacre of German pilots makes me sick
cool though
No matter how good Rommel and the Afrika Korps were, they could never win without supplies. Kudos to the Allied airmen who contributed to the starvation. But I do wonder . . . (a foolish question, I'm sure) did the South African Air Force ever have any Black pilots?
Another great video. Although the music is a little loud at times.
2,799 P40's Lend Leased to Britain. Under article V of the 1942 Lend Lease agreement every item LL remained the property of the US until lost, consumed or destroyed.
I didn't realize that many of the P-40s were equipped with the Packard Merlin known as the "Packard 20" which gave the fighter excellent performance. Both German and Italian pilots had a lot of respect for it as a low-altitude fighter.
Who dreamt up that ridiculously wasteful mission?
When your troops are desperate then you have to do what you need to do supply them .. They probably cannot wait for "the right time" which would never probably happen in war .. It wouldn't have been waste ful had it succeeded would it ....idiot. Much like the guys at Stalingrad.. Starving troops can't wait for the right time
This was the Mediterranean equivalent of the battle of the Bismarck Sea in the Pacific, in the same year.
‘dolf for his fetishism of his darling feldmarschall Rommel’s generalship, got handed down to himself another doubled-down Stalingrad.
After Alamein & Torch, Rommel decided there’s nothing else to do but cut & run out of Afrika
But his dear fuehrer ordered him to stay & fight, vanquish or die. So he sent more troops & arms to Tunisia to in the end
provide :
- the 🇺🇸 with much needed training
- the 🇬🇧 with the apotheosis of their African Trilogy
- the 🇮🇹 with the iron will to get out of the war
- nazi Germany with another giant defeat
- & himself, ‘dolf, with a Colonel Stauffenberg & his bomb 💣
Somebody explain to me. After the Palm Sunday Massacre on the 18th, why on Earth didn't say fly and land at night?
Makes you think it was planned .. after all WHY would the 323's deviate from the flight path? , why not stay with the JU52's and the main fighter escort ... Maybe they sacrificed themselves so the JU52's could survive .. Which they did!! .. No JU52 was lost..i believe.
German had very easy fighting defence air-transport fly order, it was strategy mistake...l believe what Germany Luftwaffe JG's was destroy Allies Air Force yet in 1942 after happens El-Alamein.
While at the same time submarine plus light Naval forces and Beufighters harassed and merchant ships and German Naval forces who tried to supply the remaining Africa Korp and other retreating German forces..
BTW it's pronounced cap bon not cape bon as Tunisia was French Empire and french was the lingua franca at the time eg Cap Gris-Nez near Calais
Flying that type of aircraft in daylight was beyond stupid...
We all know this wasn't filmed in IL-2 BOX not because that game doesn't feature 323's but rather because those P-40s' would have blown their engines 1 minute after filming started ;)
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That's shooting ducks. It hurts to watch the slaughter of the defenseless giants. Greetings Torsten
Well done, but the music in the background is distracting
Noted thanks
What an aircraft the Me 323 was! How stupid the Germans were not to give them serious fighter cover! AND POWERFUL ENGINES!
Converted glider.
@@davidlipman8093 So true David, but it still remains they were completely stupid not giving fighter cover! It was an amazing glider. War is such a waste. It makes me think of that Giant Ukrainian Jet with 6 massive engines. What an Aircraft, it came to Christchurch New Zealand, delivering a massive payload.
Such a waste that the Russians blew it up! Cheers Cobber From New Zealand!
@@davidlipman8093 Hi David, the Glider version was designated as the Me 321 and looked similar but not the same as the Me 323. A lot of German aircraft had some Gliding heritage... if it could glide it probably could fly well
@@robertmiller2173 interestingly, the Luftwaffe trained their pilots on gliders before the war so as not to raise suspicion from the victors of the first world war.
@@jamesalexander3530 Thanks for reminding me, you are correct!
After Rommel's defeat at El Aleman the H man should have evacuated North Africa, especially after operation Torch. The amount of recourses & men he lost could have been better deployed elsewhere.
The *H* istory Channel man?
I was interested in the aviation history until your ad came promoting the occult and satanic activities.
It is believed that every Me 323 built was shot down.
Music and aircraft noise overwhelms commentary
could really do without the sound effects
Excellent use of Il-2 1946 game play and editing!
I must point out that your description incorrectly credits Il-2 Great Battles, which is a much later iteration of the venerable Il-2 series. Il-2 1946 is a direct descendant--using the very same game engine--of the original Il-2 Sturmovik released way back in the dim mistiness of 2001. 😉
In spite of its age, '46 remains a very engaging air combat sim, as demonstrated so ably in this fine production.
Good show!
Thanks for the heads-up!
Hi Soto. HQ video as usual. These Me cargo are coming from IL2 1946 planeset ?
All visuals are from IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946.
Not a word about this in a lifetime of school in south africa.
Curiousest.
I could not watch this because of the awful synthetic 'Musak'
So, they send a formation of Me 323 Gigants in daylight in a region controlled by the enemy ! How stupid they could be to do that ???
Yeah bit like sending masses of B17's on daylight raids over regions controlled by the enemy .. how stupid is that ..
That's certainly an impressive dramatization of the battle. Well done.
7:30....... strange, I thought German fighters couldn't jettison their external fuel tanks at all....
oh and that is all you picked up from this video .. never mind I am sure you will get over it .. sheesh
Very well done. The simulation makes the battle come to life, as well as the bios and pictures of the flyers. It did raise a few questions: Why did the Nazis assign too few escort fighters to this effort: did they use all the airplanes they had available, or did they think that the mission would go undetected? If the cargo had made it over unscathed, how long would it have kept Afrika Korps in operation; i.e., how many of those missions would they have had to run per week or per month? Where can I go to learn more about this operation?
The 323's initially stayed with the Ju52's which had a bigger fighter escort .. The actually all survived.. If the 323's had stayed in formation with the JU52's then more then likely some would have survived / or the Ju52's would have suffered the same fate also. It wasn't through lack of escort fighters .. it was the fact that they split the escorts ..some with the 323,s and the bulk with the Ju52's
If I'm correct the real name at that time was not South Africa but Rhodesia. But I may be wrong
@@GNMi79 I stand corrected Sir you are right
TOO MUCH ANIMATION , NOT GOOD.
Aloha! Your work is terrifically produced. The research and detail is tremendous.
This might be a challenge, but may I suggest a depiction of the Battle of the Bismarck Sea?
Best way to tell a historic story. Really great !!
You state that there were only 10 Me 109s and they shot down 5/30 Allied planes. According to the accounts of Polish pilots. They were in the highest formation. There were 20 Me 109s. And it was these 6 Poles who first attacked the 20 Me 109s where they shot down the 6th Canadian and South African Divisions destroying the transports
To believe this simulation, mes amis, those TK's (Transport Krauts) were not timid about bailing out. Almost at first sight of Allied aeroplanes.
I wonder what became of the airmen who survived the crash of their plane...
I doubt any of them could survive swimming so far from shore. I only see them surviving if their flight suits were also equipped with inflatable life vests. I don’t know what standard equipment for transport pilots was in WW2 so I can’t say.
they got wet ..i dare say , and presumably went on to do other things .. after maybe being a POW ..
Fantastic video
I doubt that many bailed out.
Outstanding work. Even the AC markings are accurate!
altough the Cross from tunisia to sicily was a disaster, on other hand, the return of they axis forces from sicily to the continent was very sucefull..really My opinion was quite controversial, but, based on a lot of fact, they perfomance of Rommel, wich was not only the DAK commander but they chief of they 3 armies forces was very bad
I think as a pilot of those 323s having been intercepted I'd have the crew parachute out for them to have a chance to survive a hopeless situation.
And be ready to jump myself if getting shot up. From the vidio planes were so low even when guys jumped the chutes couldn't open in time.
Talking over a video game...nice.
SI FI...
Nicely done, much thanks
Outstanding
Great admiration and great respect. Your beautiful words that provide accurate, useful and wonderful information. Thank you for all the beautiful words for your great effort
All those bullets hitting the water....wonder how many fish died that day!! 🤣🤣
Easy pickings. Not something I'd be proud to recall to my grandchildren.
Thanks my ANZAC brother; you have done a fantastic job. Cheers Cobber! from Christchurch NZ.
This is a prime example of how the RAF played a major role in defeating the Africa Corp!
TY 🙏
impressive video !
He is using Reshade effects that totally transform this vintage piece of software.