THE THING is Underrated - Cinemassacre Review

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    THE THING is an underrated classic. Oh, did you think I meant John Carpenter's The Thing from 1982?? No, I mean the Howard Hawks original film from 1951 called The Thing from Another World, which usually has been referred to as just "The Thing". It's an American black-and-white science fiction-horror film based on the 1938 novella Who Goes There? by John W. Campbell. In the movie, a U.S. Air Force crew and scientists find a crashed flying saucer and a humanoid body frozen in the Arctic ice. Returning to their remote research outpost with the body still in a block of ice, they are forced to defend themselves against the still alive and malevolent plant-based alien when it is accidentally defrosted.
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  • @JamesNintendoNerd
    @JamesNintendoNerd  4 года назад +476

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    • @Bapper0
      @Bapper0 4 года назад +10

      The Thing is highly rated and it’s still too underrated.

    • @DrKriegsgrave
      @DrKriegsgrave 4 года назад +6

      being a 80's film fan i immediately became a supporter!! -- way to go, James!

    • @policevanposition1993
      @policevanposition1993 4 года назад +2

      Only 10 dollars on Google play. I just bought it. I was one of those people who loved John Carpenters version. Although in my defense I had no fckin clue about this one. Thank you sir.

    • @airforce1328
      @airforce1328 4 года назад +2

      This is fun to watch.

    • @b.a.n20O3
      @b.a.n20O3 4 года назад +6

      2011 Thing is a "prequel"

  • @kridix6821
    @kridix6821 4 года назад +1307

    There's nothing quite like listening to James talk about the things he enjoys.

    • @itsyeaboi5333
      @itsyeaboi5333 4 года назад +30

      'the thing's hah

    • @AdmiralBison
      @AdmiralBison 4 года назад +14

      As well as the things that frighten him.
      *Jekyl and Hyde

    • @famousmcfly80
      @famousmcfly80 4 года назад +27

      Totally agree. The group discussions are ok, but his individual episodes are so much more interesting.

    • @frankjaeger9997
      @frankjaeger9997 4 года назад +1

      I see what you did here. hahhaha.

    • @SomeGuy-my7en
      @SomeGuy-my7en 4 года назад +1

      This game sucks

  • @TheScandinavianOne
    @TheScandinavianOne 4 года назад +307

    Listening to James talk about movies he likes makes me feel warm inside.

    • @jeanpaulmichell7243
      @jeanpaulmichell7243 4 года назад

      Use an enema. Flushes out the 'warm' fluids that have been impacted inside you.

    • @efuuu
      @efuuu 4 года назад

      @@jeanpaulmichell7243 Geez...

    • @jeanpaulmichell7243
      @jeanpaulmichell7243 4 года назад

      @@efuuu I mean, it is in-line with the Thing's assimilation process. Fluids go in, they come out altered.....

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 года назад

      I feel so warm inside..my stomach mouth feels good.

    • @kgpspyguy
      @kgpspyguy 4 года назад +1

      If you like James so much then why dont’cha MARRY him?

  • @doslover
    @doslover 4 года назад +331

    "What was that?"
    "Sounded like a window."
    That one line makes me want to watch it. Sounds like a line you'd have heard in "Airplane!"

    • @alexdasliebe5391
      @alexdasliebe5391 4 года назад +3

      James Johnson 💯 correct! 😄

    • @VandescoGamer
      @VandescoGamer 4 года назад +19

      I honestly don't think that was intended to be funny at all. Those actors did not actually have the sound effect while filming, so they are clarifying for the audience what broke.

    • @gordonshea2698
      @gordonshea2698 4 года назад +12

      I think it was more a case that he was thinking out loud the implication being that something is either escaping through all coming in the window

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 4 года назад +6

      @@gordonshea2698 That, exactly. There were other possibilities - we'd seen lots of glassware in a lab, for ex - and since the sound comes from off-camera giving the audience the hint was important.

    • @magnusquercu9905
      @magnusquercu9905 4 года назад

      A bah???

  • @OverLorD768
    @OverLorD768 4 года назад +1587

    When James is a better nostalgia critic than the actual NC.

    • @kanakawase
      @kanakawase 4 года назад +209

      It helps that James talks about movies he loves, rather than just bashing them for yuks.

    • @FuNWithAChemicaLBomb
      @FuNWithAChemicaLBomb 4 года назад +60

      Bill CIA Wilson it's been this way since 2012

    • @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
      @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 4 года назад +10

      Ouch, that burn.

    • @Blisterdude123
      @Blisterdude123 4 года назад +92

      For starters, the Nostalgia Critic has never been a critic. He's always been playing a phony character, who was basically a hack. Unfortunately, it spawned a tidal wave of other hacks, only interested in generating vitriol and buzz rather than actually critiquing things.

    • @stefandrakche
      @stefandrakche 4 года назад +21

      because he is The real filmmaker

  • @jrod112278
    @jrod112278 4 года назад +167

    A similar argument could be made how the remake of The Fly completely overshadowed the original.

    • @doctormid-nyte5483
      @doctormid-nyte5483 4 года назад +5

      I Hate to be that guy But I made an entire video on that subject-

    • @grimTales1
      @grimTales1 4 года назад +5

      Not seen the 50's version of The Fly but the remake was very good.

    • @Lobocyfer
      @Lobocyfer 4 года назад +14

      Same story with invasion of the body snatchers

    • @snizzysnazz82
      @snizzysnazz82 4 года назад +11

      You could say the same about the original Scarface compared to the Pacino remake too. Whoops should have watched the full video, James ends up mentioning it towards the end.

    • @tylerwagner1978
      @tylerwagner1978 4 года назад +11

      The Blob remake is another and even The War of the Worlds. Just almost every remake of the 50s era really is guilty of this.

  • @DrDolan2000
    @DrDolan2000 4 года назад +570

    Old movies don't deserve to be left in the dark. Especially if they're good

  • @wisewerethewords
    @wisewerethewords 4 года назад +2646

    James, no offense to your dudes but you are way more insightful by yourself.

    • @TactileTherapy
      @TactileTherapy 4 года назад +246

      only videos of his i watch

    • @frozendilemma
      @frozendilemma 4 года назад +35

      Absofuckinglutely!

    • @Dogdashdash
      @Dogdashdash 4 года назад +82

      @Conrad Ferrus I guess he's a good writer (at least in reviews) and the "improv" or candid reviews with him and his guys are just not as good.

    • @TactileTherapy
      @TactileTherapy 4 года назад +5

      @Ios5513 how dare i?

    • @kaltblut
      @kaltblut 4 года назад +173

      Absolutely, I can't watch any of the videos with the other guys. Which is sad, because I like James content.

  • @adamnaameeazim6365
    @adamnaameeazim6365 4 года назад +349

    I actually prefer Carpenter's one, not only cause of the effects, but because of that sustained sense of paranoia it gives off. That said, I think the original is definitely an underrated classic. This video was awesome, James.

    • @ACARDtvMusic
      @ACARDtvMusic 4 года назад +2

      Adam Naamee Azim Of course, as time went by in cinema, directors really tried to pull the audience in with feelings that the characters were also having. It only got better as cinema matured, but they were doing that in the beginning too as in To Kill A Mockingbird ☺️

    • @wesgraves1282
      @wesgraves1282 4 года назад

      I absolutely agree with you the original is just something I hold dear to me from childhood with my dad

    • @MidKnighToker
      @MidKnighToker 4 года назад

      agreed not to mention the 2002 is a prequel

    • @NeverBeNormal
      @NeverBeNormal 4 года назад +6

      Carpenter's my favorite too. That sense of paranoia is brilliantly highlighted by his soundtrack, something he does better than almost anyone ever.

    • @GSVRemix
      @GSVRemix 4 года назад +4

      ddtnbn Actually, the soundtrack in the Carpenter's version wasn't made by him, it was made by Ennio Morricone (most famous for many western movies) but as much I love Morricone, I think the soundtrack from the 1951 original is better. Those heavy brass stabs and the theremin are simply ideal for this style of movie, and nothing else works quite as well in my opinion.

  • @landonhagan450
    @landonhagan450 4 года назад +204

    I take issue the notion that Carpenter's version lacks subtlety. The obscurity of the sequence of events, the sheer lack of information given to the audience, the constant scheming and strategizing of both the protagonists and the thing itself, the myriad little touches and clues in the background, the tense power-dynamic subtext in all the dialogue; there's so much going on under the surface in that movie. I can totally respect preferring the original, but to say that all the movie has going for it is the special effects is objectively wrong.

    • @DylanFoster87
      @DylanFoster87 3 года назад +20

      John Carpenter’s is a masterpiece.

    • @kyleplatz6295
      @kyleplatz6295 3 года назад +6

      100% agree.

    • @davidbanan.
      @davidbanan. 3 года назад +9

      Wait people think carpenters doesn't have subbtlety? Its quite subtle

    • @codywirth8190
      @codywirth8190 3 месяца назад +1

      Thank you, '51 is great and all, but it's still a metric lightyear from '82 which has sparked endless debate and theories about how the plot unfolds. There's a reason no one thinks of '51 anymore,'82 "assimilated" all its best elements and improved on them with a story about trust and isolation instead of a vegetable Frankenstein wondering around not killing anyone. That has to be kinda lame even back then.

  • @MoonMinHo
    @MoonMinHo 4 года назад +162

    Originally, the 1951 monster was supposed to be shown having shape-shifting ability like in the original novella and 1982 movie, but the idea was scrapped due to insufficient technical props at that time

    • @xxx0ox0
      @xxx0ox0 4 года назад

      Cool fact. I wonder if it was for the better we'll never know

    • @heavysystemsinc.
      @heavysystemsinc. 4 года назад +3

      Personally, I think this decision made for a better movie. I can only imagine the schlock it'd be seen as today had it attempted such aspects. And I think it would have only detracted from the core strengths of the movie.

    • @KevinCarney91
      @KevinCarney91 4 года назад +21

      I think that's a big factor in why a lot of people (myself included) prefer Carpenter's version to Hawks' version. The alien itself isn't all that interesting in Hawks' version. As Doctor Wolfula put it, it's basically Frankenstein's Monster without the pathos. On the other hand, the creature in Carpenter's version is an apocolyptic, Lovecraftian hellbeast that embodies paranoia and mistrust, which is what the story is all about.

    • @peterghoulferatu3555
      @peterghoulferatu3555 4 года назад +3

      @@KevinCarney91 Well put

    • @Iomeces
      @Iomeces 3 года назад +3

      That's really too bad. They could have had most of the transformations happen offscreen. There are lots of tricks that they could have done to make up for technical limitations.

  • @JakeMcaulay
    @JakeMcaulay 4 года назад +385

    I always love listening to james talking about horror movies. He's single handedly responsible for me getting me into older horror movies with monster madness. Thanks for that james ya legend.

    • @PonystuckInc
      @PonystuckInc 4 года назад +4

      Monster Madness doubled as my watch list for a while haha

    • @EvilForgemaster
      @EvilForgemaster 4 года назад +5

      James has done this for me too. He is the reason I became an old school horror freak.

    • @Boots43096
      @Boots43096 4 года назад +4

      me too, I wouldn't be so hard into old movies without cinemassacre

  • @mrblonde609
    @mrblonde609 4 года назад +289

    So techically, James statement "It has overlapping dialogue, it's more natural" is a remake of Tom Savinis quote "There's overlapping dialogue, you hardly see that in movies today. It gives you a sense of realism..." xD

    • @Fak3Cake
      @Fak3Cake 4 года назад +12

      Remake or a Ripoff? Nobody knows!!!

    • @jonryder7269
      @jonryder7269 3 года назад +4

      sigh, such a lack of originality these days xD

    • @mjf2891
      @mjf2891 3 года назад +5

      Mr. Blonde started with Orson Welles

    • @YggdrasilAudio
      @YggdrasilAudio 3 года назад +1

      Uncut Gems must've blown his mind.

  • @TheEvilpossum
    @TheEvilpossum 4 года назад +268

    I actually read the story "Who Goes There?" before I saw any of the movies. The lore goes that the author, who became legendary as editor of Astounding/ Analog, was never happy with the 1950s movie. The 1982 version did a lot more to capture the original idea, and also gave a more pessimistic take on human vs alien than Campbell usually allowed as author or editor.

    • @retro_jojo3159
      @retro_jojo3159 4 года назад +5

      @matthew martin no, that he preferred the 1980s one because of the pessimistic angle

    • @lo1bo2
      @lo1bo2 4 года назад +23

      @@retro_jojo3159 That's funny, since Campbell died in 1971.

    • @scottyboyca8162
      @scottyboyca8162 4 года назад

      lo1bo2 what?

    • @Nitrobotti
      @Nitrobotti 4 года назад +7

      @@scottyboyca8162 @Retro_Jojo John W Campbell died in 1971 so he obviously didn't see Carpenter's version.

    • @justincoleman3805
      @justincoleman3805 4 года назад +31

      The original comment doesn’t say the author preferred the second one. Only that it fit his style more.

  • @chazington1073
    @chazington1073 4 года назад +190

    Didn’t expect a review of my favorite horror movie

  • @darthmaul13
    @darthmaul13 4 года назад +72

    I’m just watching the 1951 version. And realized the scene with them looking at the Geiger counter when the creature was approaching is just like the motion detectors scenes in aliens. LOL.

    • @getvnews1918
      @getvnews1918 3 года назад +3

      We just viewed it this night on "Svenguli" a syndicated scifi cable show.

    • @PaulScollon
      @PaulScollon 3 года назад +5

      Now try watching "Them!" and compare it to "Aliens" also. Aliens is a total remake of this movie.

  • @brunobb1
    @brunobb1 4 года назад +273

    "I guess you could say, they are polar opposites"
    Wow. You can see James trying not to laugh his ass off. Props for keeping a straight face.

    • @Destroyah5000
      @Destroyah5000 4 года назад +21

      Earlier he also said that he liked how the orignal took place in the ice snow, providing a great sense of ice-olation.

    • @JettBlast
      @JettBlast 4 года назад +9

      Now that he is one, that was a dad joke...

    • @ourevilone
      @ourevilone 4 года назад +4

      i like there was no cut there after he said it too

    • @alphalax7747
      @alphalax7747 4 года назад +4

      @@Destroyah5000 and right before that, he says the movie gives a chilling feeling

    • @yavivanov6650
      @yavivanov6650 4 года назад +1

      That pun was intentional. He knew it sounded stupid, but fun at the same time, as all puns do.

  • @bromodragone8405
    @bromodragone8405 4 года назад +183

    The 80s gave us a trio of amazing Science-Horror remakes of films from the 50s. The Thing, The Fly and The Blob.

    • @fka322
      @fka322 3 года назад +20

      If you extend it to the late 70s, there's also Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

    • @proZach380
      @proZach380 3 года назад

      and unfortunately they'll likely be remade in the near future, if only to prevent the copyrights from going to the public domain...

    • @StarWolf_88
      @StarWolf_88 3 года назад

      I saw those classics as a kid...time for a re vist.

    • @jimb.7523
      @jimb.7523 3 года назад +1

      @@proZach380 Remade....by *DISNEY!* DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN!

    • @reddhead2948
      @reddhead2948 3 года назад +1

      Yea and the originals were all better

  • @ValensBellator
    @ValensBellator 3 года назад +157

    My favorite part of the JC version that you didn’t really speak about was the supremely disconcerting paranoia resulting from the Thing being able to infect and impersonate people. It gave it a real “Salem witch trials” feel, where accusations were getting thrown all over the place and no one could be trusted.
    More than anything THAT is the specific quality that I liked most from his version.

  • @BenCol
    @BenCol 4 года назад +93

    If you work in the Amundsen-Scott South Pole research station, then it’s tradition to watch all three ‘Thing’ films in a row just as winter sets in.

    • @psychonaut1829
      @psychonaut1829 4 года назад +18

      Then get paranoid about your co workers
      😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑

    • @5kehhn
      @5kehhn 4 года назад +4

      Sweet dreams.

    • @bigidibeng
      @bigidibeng 4 года назад

      Oh no :D

    • @reversalmushroom
      @reversalmushroom 4 года назад +1

      As far as I'm concerned, there are only 2 movies, Hawks and Carpenter.

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 4 года назад +1

      Followed by compulsory blood tests and making sure the dogs are all accounted for.

  • @omegarugal9283
    @omegarugal9283 4 года назад +222

    more of these James, just you, a camera and an old movie to talk about...

    • @devilmaycryagency
      @devilmaycryagency 4 года назад +2

      fr man I love these types of videos!

    • @ItzJustang
      @ItzJustang 4 года назад +4

      I know right. Aren’t tony and Kieran obnoxious as hell.

    • @IGGIkisa98
      @IGGIkisa98 4 года назад +3

      I don't mind Tony and Kieran, but these are by far the best videos.

    • @lemfandango
      @lemfandango 4 года назад

      I like him better with 3 huge guys

  • @nickmanzo8459
    @nickmanzo8459 4 года назад +53

    That’s why I always refer to the Carpenter version as “John Carpenter’s The Thing.”

    • @ryancox9281
      @ryancox9281 4 года назад +3

      Same here.

    • @lunaurum3515
      @lunaurum3515 3 года назад +16

      I always refer to it as just The Thing, and call the 1951 movie "The Thing from Another World" mostly because it's easier for whoever I'm talking to

    • @John-el1ki
      @John-el1ki 3 года назад +3

      @@lunaurum3515 I do the exact same thing

  • @heyitsme4751
    @heyitsme4751 4 года назад +118

    Really interesting points about the original, personally I'd have to disagree that Carpenter's lacks subtlety/psychelogical scares. The premise of a shapeshifting killer being amongst a closed-quarters group just offsets its often ambient atmosphere so well

  • @pc_gaijin
    @pc_gaijin 4 года назад +88

    The 2011 version wasn’t really a remake as much as it was a prequel. It is confusing to me why they would give it the same title; but it is made clear at the end of the movie where they are chasing the dog in the helicopter that the 2011 version ends where the 1983 version begins.

    • @peowulf
      @peowulf 4 года назад +4

      I think being a prequel was supposed to be a twist ending or something. It wasn't very good either way.

    • @SethMcFartlane
      @SethMcFartlane 4 года назад +1

      30 years ago, four scientists saved New York.

    • @enthnd03
      @enthnd03 4 года назад +2

      It's more a premake

    • @redshift912
      @redshift912 4 года назад

      I was fine with imagining what happened

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 4 года назад

      At least you can actually avoid the 2011 prequel if you don't wanna watch it, thankfully. You do see enough about the Norwegian station in the 82 Thing.

  • @sydhamelin1265
    @sydhamelin1265 3 года назад +32

    My mom introduced me to The Thing when I was younger, but I seem to remember her being disappointed because she thought she rented the original, but ended up with the John Carpenter movie. Now, she really enjoyed it, but she wanted me to see the movie she grew up loving.
    It's great to see that someone from my generation is not only aware of the original, but appreciates it!

    • @casesoutherland4175
      @casesoutherland4175 Год назад

      I just watched the 1951 version and the 1982 remake/readaptation back-to-back. It's really hard to say which one is definitively better, because they're both great in their own ways!

  • @GamePlayMetal
    @GamePlayMetal 4 года назад +367

    I've always heard the original referred to as "the thing from another world"

    • @dieyng
      @dieyng 4 года назад +9

      Same here.

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 4 года назад +19

      The THING from another world -> John Carpenter's The THING -> The THING

    • @oaf-77
      @oaf-77 4 года назад +23

      -> the thong

    • @psychonaut1829
      @psychonaut1829 4 года назад +9

      Yes, ironically, the original changed its name to market off of success of the 80s version. Carpenter payed homage to the original but his movie had a different name.

    • @keenkingjames
      @keenkingjames 4 года назад +1

      This!

  • @nico5179
    @nico5179 4 года назад +40

    I have to disagree in some aspects, the Carpenter version is also very tense and creepy, that feeling of insecurity, not knowing who the creature is among your own team mates is just terrifying. The original was a separate creature and people more or less had some kind of idea how to contain it, but the Carpenter version, practically tells you from the start there is no containment method for it, and that just blows your imagination away.

    • @steveward6099
      @steveward6099 4 года назад +5

      Also the 'Keep watching the skys' aspect is played out far more scarily in Carpenter's movie by having the computer simulation tell Blair how quickly the infection would take over the worlds population and the ambiguous ending.

  • @frostyguy1989
    @frostyguy1989 4 года назад +162

    I've seen the Carpenter version (definitely one of the greatest horror movies ever made), the 2011 prequel (substandard dialogue and slathering all that CG over perfectly good practical effects made me VERY MAD) and I've even read the original novella. But even though I have heard of the 1951 movie and knew that Carpenter's movie took inspiration from it, I've never seen it, and have never been able to find a copy. It's as if it never existed.
    But while I agree with you over the 1982 movie's relatively bland characterisations, I take issue with your remark that Carpenter's version had "no subtlety". It had subtleties, just not in the way Hawk's film presumably did. It keeps you guessing where the Thing is. You get the impression that the Thing is an evil mastermind, manipulating everyone from the shadows, using the crew's own paranoia and fear to divide and kill each other. Especially in that masterpiece ending, where you can't tell if Childs or MacReady are infected, if both of them are, or if none of them are. And unlike far too many monster movies today, the 1982 film actually doesn't show the monster very often, relying on the buildup of paranoia to drive the tension. So when you do see the monster, it's sudden, it's gory, and it never takes the same form twice, denying you any semblance of familiarity that would lessen its scare factor.

    • @nathanielphillips3592
      @nathanielphillips3592 3 года назад +23

      I think the, well I wouldnt go as far as call them bland, but the more underdeveloped characters of the 1982 The Thing actually worked in the movies favor, as it kept it more unpredictable. In another movie with very developed characters, you could predict which character was going to live and which ones werent, but it's not like that in the 1982 The Thing. I may just be a huge fan of The 1982 Thing, but I feel as if typical shortcomings of any other movie actually work in this movies favor.

    • @Rykiz_Vidz
      @Rykiz_Vidz 3 года назад +5

      I wish i could like this comment twice. My thoughts exactly.

    • @Howlingburd19
      @Howlingburd19 2 года назад

      This is EASILY my favorite horror movie!!!

    • @noahoost2305
      @noahoost2305 2 года назад +3

      The only thing i like about the 2011 remake is that the ending of the 2011 film is basically the beginning of the 1982 film

  • @ryanmaxwell5076
    @ryanmaxwell5076 4 года назад +192

    John Carpenter’s “The Thing“ might have the best practical effects ever. That’s why it’s so tough to ignore I believe. It still holds up in today’s market because CGI has taken front seat for decades now. Even when practical would be more appealing to see we are still given CGI. So Carpenter’s version is almost the focal point of the argument between practical and CGI effects. If you’re in favor of the former, Carpenter’s “The Thing” is the perfect example of practical effects done extraordinarily well. The juxtaposition is made even greater with the latest version released. Many felt, myself included, the CGI was substandard and Carpenter’s out shined it decades earlier.

    • @megaton_a
      @megaton_a 4 года назад +16

      The weird thing is that the "latest" version originally embraced practical effects, then they decided CG was the way to go... and they ruined everything.

    • @Dragonfury3000
      @Dragonfury3000 4 года назад +1

      The thing 82 is quite memorable. The original Thing i admit i still haven't watched. Old movies can be pretty good.

    • @swampshack1018
      @swampshack1018 4 года назад

      I hate cgi, practical effects is the way to go

    • @CyberDragon10K
      @CyberDragon10K 4 года назад +8

      @@megaton_a
      "They" being the stupid studio executives/suits. Wasted Studio ADI's time, effort and money asking them to do the practical effects only to completely go over them with CGI in the end...

    • @ChadDidNothingWrong
      @ChadDidNothingWrong 4 года назад +6

      People were starting to get a little practical-crazy recently....
      ...to the point where they don't even care what actually looks more real...as long as there's no CGI involved....which is just as silly.

  • @GFCOLCQuote
    @GFCOLCQuote 4 года назад +250

    "I guess you could say... they're polar opposites."
    He really is a father, how amazing.

    • @BlokeOzzie
      @BlokeOzzie 4 года назад +8

      I love how he talks about the overlapping dialogue and how there's no pause in the original The Thing to let jokes sink in, instead they are underplayed by keeping the dialogue flowing. And then he pauses... for an uncomfortably long time... to let his joke sink in. Well played. Well played.

  • @maxell149
    @maxell149 3 года назад +34

    I'd disagree with James on that jumpscare part, carpenter's jumpscare didn't have the usual music followed by the high pitch sound effect when the monster popped out. It would happen almost like it was random and out of nowhere. It happened I wanna say three times in the film and then a usual jumpscare with music near the end when the dude got assimilated.

  • @EmperorMegas
    @EmperorMegas 4 года назад +92

    John Carpenter's The Thing is my favorite horror film of all time. I've still never seen the origin one.
    I knew it was a remake though. It's why I always call it 'John Carpenter's The Thing'.

    • @TheMightyWumbo
      @TheMightyWumbo 4 года назад +1

      Emperor Megas same

    • @bigkmoviesandgames
      @bigkmoviesandgames 4 года назад +6

      @@Spottedfeather yes it is.

    • @SpedeVesku
      @SpedeVesku 4 года назад +10

      @@bigkmoviesandgames Eh, it's more of a more faithful adaptation of the original novella.

    • @jacobreeves3110
      @jacobreeves3110 4 года назад +2

      Check it out. I'm 28 and I really enjoyed it. You can find it in online pretty easy.

    • @Buttington_Headerson
      @Buttington_Headerson 4 года назад

      It's good.

  • @TheSnoopyclone
    @TheSnoopyclone 4 года назад +99

    I think people like the carpenter version because of the mystery added to the movie on figuring out who’s who. It became a cult classic later on because of the analysis of the movie, how it was a lot deeper than what we actually take for what it is.

    • @lindenstromberg6859
      @lindenstromberg6859 4 года назад +13

      Also, the final scene of the Thing Carpenter is one of the great mysteries. Which one of them is the thing? Are either of them the thing?

    • @peachycreations8787
      @peachycreations8787 4 года назад +1

      @@lindenstromberg6859 simple answer you can see Kurt Russell's breath at the end but you can't see the other guys breath in the cold air hmmmm food for thought right there. Brilliant film too.

    • @RavensEagle
      @RavensEagle 4 года назад +7

      @@peachycreations8787 already debunked where producer came out to say it's still a mystery nobody knows.

    • @butters742
      @butters742 4 года назад +1

      @@peachycreations8787 I thought it was cause Childs drinking Macready's hand made Petrol molotov cocktail's, that you can even see earlier in the movie before he bombs the thing. The chuckle from Macready after childs drinks it. Childs is the thing alright.

    • @wes8723
      @wes8723 3 года назад +1

      @@butters742 Nah.. The Thing videogame is canon and in that game Childs is frozen to death - he wasn't the thing

  • @brown22sugar25
    @brown22sugar25 2 года назад +38

    You got results for the 1982 film when you looked up “The Thing” because the 1951 film is called “The Thing from Another World.” I looked up both and got results based on the exact title.

  • @GFX667
    @GFX667 4 года назад +592

    The 2011 “The Thing” is not a remake. It’s a prequel.

    • @graytoby1
      @graytoby1 4 года назад +143

      It's a bag of shite

    • @psychonaut1829
      @psychonaut1829 4 года назад +58

      And under rated. I would have seen it in the theater if they hadnt marketed it as a remake.

    • @StarryStarryNocturne
      @StarryStarryNocturne 4 года назад +25

      I still haven't seen the remake-prequel. The thing (no pun intended honest) that keeps me from giving it a chance is the idea - heavily promoted by fans of it - that the Thing is so uncharacteristically aggressive and recklessly exposes itself left and right in the remake-prequel because it's not used to hunting humans and hasn't learned to be more careful, subversive and stealthy in it's approach. The Thing arrived on Earth because it overtook a ship of super-advanced interstellar explorers that happened to accidentally collect it (because they liked collecting unique species from the various worlds they visited) - so it had by that point assimilated everything from primitive beasts to complex, highly evolved and intelligent creatures and yet, it still hadn't learned that caution and stealth were the best approach for survival and predation? Even primitive predatory animals on Earth know this as instinct. It just doesn't make sense.

    • @psychonaut1829
      @psychonaut1829 4 года назад +4

      @@StarryStarryNocturne What do you mean, all it needs to do is get out of the arctic and it will have the whole world in weeks. It probably knows that the ice caps can melt, and time doesnt matter to it. The thing won in the end.

    • @reotem
      @reotem 4 года назад +38

      And that is the problem. We already knew what happened at the Norwegian base. We didn't need a crappy knock off cgi fest to show us.

  • @Mechabang
    @Mechabang 4 года назад +87

    The story "Who Goes There" was written by John Campbell, a legendary name from the Golden Age if Science Fiction.

    • @Flayne009
      @Flayne009 4 года назад +2

      And they recently released an extended edition (45 more pages). Search for "Frozen Hell" if you're interested.

    • @CyborgWolf
      @CyborgWolf 4 года назад +2

      @@Flayne009 And it's fantastic. I was on the kickstarter & i'm so happy

    • @kaigen999
      @kaigen999 4 года назад +3

      @@Flayne009 I need to read this. They are talking about making that a movie now. I hope its fantastic. I am so very hyped.

    • @JohnDiabol
      @JohnDiabol 4 года назад +2

      It was also inspired by "At the mountains of madness" by Lovecraft, very similar setting.

    • @christiankettlewell
      @christiankettlewell 4 года назад

      Follow Your Bliss, John Campbell?

  • @dollzentertainmentllc9452
    @dollzentertainmentllc9452 4 года назад +23

    My husband's dad gifted me the Hawk's version of The Thing for Christmas a few years ago and its definitely an underappreciated classic. As is The Fly!!

  • @sopothetocho
    @sopothetocho 4 года назад +90

    You know whats really sad? what they did to the 2011 movie, the movie was supposed to have 100% practical effects but the studio made them covert all the practical effects with CGI, there is footage of some of it on youtube and it looks GREAT!, seriously, the movie would have been soooo much better.

    • @ryantimony6669
      @ryantimony6669 4 года назад +2

      Its a travesty.
      Have you seen Harbinger Down?

    • @MegaCrocosaurus92
      @MegaCrocosaurus92 4 года назад +6

      I agree. Damn shame they won't even release an official version with the practicals and original ending.

    • @Th3BigBoy
      @Th3BigBoy 4 года назад

      @@ryantimony6669 Harbinger Down is laughable.

    • @schlumbl84
      @schlumbl84 4 года назад +1

      @@Th3BigBoy I agree. When I heard that most of the practical effect stuff was used for it, I watched it rightaway - boy, what a letdown.

    • @Shorty_Hutch
      @Shorty_Hutch 4 года назад

      The head crab scene shocked me when I watched it because it was so well done and holds up better than most, if not all, modern films

  • @ethanthomas8518
    @ethanthomas8518 4 года назад +143

    The Thing (2011) it's not a remake, it's a prequel to Carpenter's The Thing (1982).

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 года назад +16

      If it's a prequel, then why would they give it the same name? Not that I'm discrediting your post, I just find it baffling that a studio would create a film as a prequel to another film, but then give it the exact same title. I know that it's all because of marketing, but it comes off as a really illogical and nonsensical decision that only creates more confusion as time goes on.

    • @160sharp
      @160sharp 4 года назад +6

      Jordan3D I totally agree I had the same thoughts, it’s an interesting story it tells, it pretty much shows what happened to the one camp the crew comes across in the original that was in flames

    • @MrAllGamesAllDay
      @MrAllGamesAllDay 4 года назад +17

      Jordan3D Have you seen it? Regardless of the name, it takes place right before the 1982 movie so how could it be a remake...

    • @ethanthomas8518
      @ethanthomas8518 4 года назад +7

      @@Jordan3DS I don't understand why, you know The New halloween? For example, it is just called Halloween so I need to say Halloween (1979) and Halloween (2018). But I recommend you watch both The Thing 1982 and 2011 they até Very good, The Carpenter's version is superior but The prequel it's Very Fun to watch.

    • @thealphaincel1619
      @thealphaincel1619 4 года назад +4

      @@ethanthomas8518 The Prequel was shit.

  • @HellsSaint26
    @HellsSaint26 4 года назад +35

    Im in my late 20s and I actually haven't seen the Carpenter version, only the original, and I also think its a great piece in movie history. This movie like The Day the Earth stood still are genre defining classics in science fiction. For different reasons but together their pacing is one of the things that set the tone for good science fiction story telling. It didn't have to be about how insane the scifi was, its about the atmosphere, pacing, and writing that gave seriousness to the situation.

    • @DenverStarkey
      @DenverStarkey 3 года назад +2

      i'm 41 now myself i saw the original The thing , when i was a kid about 8 years old and never knew about the remake either till about the time i was 15 , funny enough i'm amazed now how i didn't see the 82 one sooner seeing as how i was only 3 when it came out.

    • @psychobillynumbnuts1
      @psychobillynumbnuts1 3 года назад +1

      I seen the 82 version last week. It was alright

  • @cassiekaizo1210
    @cassiekaizo1210 4 года назад +109

    The 2011 movie isn't even a remake, its a prequel to the carpenter version.

    • @craigt1010
      @craigt1010 4 года назад +6

      Came here to say this. Both movies are great.

    • @tjohnson6940
      @tjohnson6940 4 года назад +12

      The 2011 prequel is an abomination.

    • @hopelessent.1700
      @hopelessent.1700 4 года назад +2

      Craig T the prequel dumbed down the monster and intrigue. Prequel only used what we saw in the 82 film by exploring the facility which has no reason to.

    • @AngerOfTheLand
      @AngerOfTheLand 4 года назад +9

      2011 movie goes so well with the orig... dunno how people can bash it so hard. I cant watch one without the other.

    • @khalnetherfields7263
      @khalnetherfields7263 4 года назад +5

      @@hopelessent.1700 a bit of a wasted opportunity, sure, and shame about what they did with the monster in the end but its still a good movie, come on now

  • @NoHurtFeline
    @NoHurtFeline 4 года назад +85

    "The characters are kind of flat" Heartily disagree. Also if you're going to make such a bold negative claim about the Carpenter version, please ELABORATE. "The characters are kind of flat" deeply contradicts your other statement "I understand why people like the Carpenter version better". Apparently you don't understand if you think it's only liked because of the "special effects"

    • @KRhetor
      @KRhetor 4 года назад +5

      No, the onus is on you to explain why they aren't flat. And they ARE flat, unremarkable stereotypes, not helped by the fact that everyone in the cast except Wilford Brimley follows Russell's lead in sleepwalking through their part...with the exception of David Clennon, who is just plain awful and irritating.

    • @steveward6099
      @steveward6099 4 года назад +39

      Don't find them flat. They're burnt out, isolated but still have their quirks. It'd be very weird if they were all fast talking transatlantic sterotypes cracking off against each other.

    • @meyes5671
      @meyes5671 4 года назад +25

      @@KRhetor
      Did you even watch the same movie we did? Damn near every character was intelligent and convincing.

    • @bitfreakazoid
      @bitfreakazoid 3 года назад +3

      Those aren't contradictions, they don't even have anything to do with each other. Nor does he state it's only liked because of the special effects.

    • @SuperPeterok
      @SuperPeterok 3 года назад

      How dare you. Kurt Russell is amazing even in movies like Captain Ron and Overboard.

  • @ActuallyAFungus
    @ActuallyAFungus 4 года назад +174

    "movies are different from books"
    Ahh, yes. *nods intellectually*

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 4 года назад +1

      I never thought it was impossible to put days and weeks worth of text into 2 hour movies :O I'm shocked. SHOCKED. Well not that shocked.

    • @TheLiveMusicGroup
      @TheLiveMusicGroup 4 года назад +1

      lol

    • @gweds
      @gweds 4 года назад

      Sucks on pipe

    • @SA77888
      @SA77888 4 года назад +1

      ''nods intellectually'' lol

  • @Lewdology
    @Lewdology 4 года назад +23

    My favorite thing about Carpenter's Thing isn't the special fx, it's the blood test scene. And Morricone's music, I was very surprised to hear it in Hateful Eight but I was pleased that I recognized it haha.
    One track is also used in my favorite Japanese horror movie Noroi (The Curse).

  • @Bloodfont89
    @Bloodfont89 4 года назад +53

    See, i understand your point with the whole "Thing remake removes original from history" point, I really do but if you google "the thing from another world" you do get the whole search history to do with the original. I don't believe it's been removed from history, sidelined for sure if you look for just The Thing.

    • @JakeFLM
      @JakeFLM 3 года назад +3

      james said that the 1951 version was still widely known as "The Thing" despite its full title of the thing from another world. so basically the 1951 version should still appear if it was still widely known. but sadly, it isnt.

  • @zachsnow8223
    @zachsnow8223 4 года назад +4

    I just played this video for a weekly film discussion group I've been hosting for friends on Zoom during the quarantine. My friend Van, who is in his 70s now and was once an extra in films like Godfather 2 and Serpico, loved it! He just mentioned last week how he was disheartened that most people have forgotten the original Thing, so this video made him feel better that some people remember how awesome it was. He saw the 1951 version on its release, aged 8 at the time, and says it's the only movie that made him run from the theater in horror! Some younger members of the group want to see it now too, so I consider that a win!

  • @thejackal007
    @thejackal007 4 года назад +18

    I always love seeing you talk about something this passionately.

  • @harold5337
    @harold5337 Год назад +3

    I watched the original 1951 movie because I loved the Carpenter remake, and I absolutely enjoyed it. It’s the same thing with the Mummy, I love the 1932 mummy and yet most people only think of the 1999 Steven Sommers remake when people think of The Mummy.
    Respect for the classic monsters.

  • @urbobne2254
    @urbobne2254 4 года назад +16

    This is a great review. Honestly, the John Carpenter version is so iconic to me that I had never really though much about the original. Come to think of it, I haven't actually seen the original. I'm definitely going to watch it now. Thanks James!

    • @steveward6099
      @steveward6099 4 года назад +2

      Watch it with the original Fly. There you have two examples of equally great sci fi movies.

  • @Kullen64
    @Kullen64 4 года назад +68

    The 2010’s The Thing isn’t a remake. It’s a prequel to John Carpenter’s The Thing.

    • @darkwoods1954
      @darkwoods1954 4 года назад +16

      Where exactly the same things happen in the same order. I call it a premake. A remake marketed as a prequel with a few quick details thrown in so they can claim it's a prequel but still not have to actually come up with an original story.

    • @Kullen64
      @Kullen64 4 года назад +5

      Dark Woods
      I’m not defending the movie or being a smart ass to James. Was just pointing out that it’s a prequel.

    • @Usernamesdontmatter1
      @Usernamesdontmatter1 4 года назад +2

      Technically wouldnt that make it a remake of the original?

    • @EasyCure0
      @EasyCure0 4 года назад

      @@darkwoods1954 because the team making it refused to do a straight 1:1 remake, and thought a prequel would be the best route, but also had been little wiggle room to work with.
      How would YOU make a prequel, and remember you MUST include the burned down Swedish base, the ice block, the axe in the wall, and the body with the slit throat, you know, all that iconic stuff in Carpenter's thing that made us (and Kurt Russel's character) think "wtf happened here?"

    • @handsomebrick
      @handsomebrick 4 года назад +1

      It's a soft reboot, but it also pointlessly retreads the plot of the 1982 one, which is why some people call it a remake. I guess it could be called a "soft remake" then, sort of like The Force Awakens, which did the same trick. (Putting "prequel" in the name is pointless since a prequel is just a sequel that goes backwards in time, it shouldn't get a special name for that.)

  • @theylied1776
    @theylied1776 4 года назад +42

    You didn't mention Ridley Scott said he lifted scenes from The Thing for the movie Alien. The entire tracking the Alien through the ship, "It should be right on top of you", is the exact same scene with the Giger Counter from The Thing.

    • @Sapsche
      @Sapsche 3 года назад +4

      I'm not sure if it's supposed to be a pun, looking at the subject matter, but it's Geiger counter ;)

    • @Tobingtons
      @Tobingtons 3 года назад +1

      Alien came before The Thing

    • @theylied1776
      @theylied1776 3 года назад +5

      @@Tobingtons No, Ridley Scott was talking about the 1951 version of The Thing. The 1951 version of The Thing is also John Carpenter's favorite movie.

  • @SashaThePrincessofDarkness
    @SashaThePrincessofDarkness 4 года назад +12

    Um, the Thing 2011 isn't a remake of a remake.... It's the prequel to the remake. Come on, James, you know this.

    • @jarlfenrir
      @jarlfenrir 4 года назад +1

      Was looking for a comment like that ;) Found not much so far, so leaving my trace here to bump it up a bit :P

  • @Scottydoesntknow84
    @Scottydoesntknow84 4 года назад +62

    It’s ironic that halfway through this video is an ad for a game called “Destroy all Humans.”

  • @landonhagan450
    @landonhagan450 4 года назад +112

    "Watch the skies..." is one of the best closing lines of all time.

    • @kyleminator6084
      @kyleminator6084 4 года назад +4

      I heard “Watch the skies” from Simon Pegg’s and Nick Frost’s “Paul” from the bar scene when there were two bumper stickers “watch the skies” or “Alien on board”

    • @kenzopo8125
      @kenzopo8125 4 года назад

      Agreed.

    • @sergiowinter5383
      @sergiowinter5383 3 года назад +2

      Watch the skies, traveler!

    • @rorschach7697
      @rorschach7697 3 года назад

      That quote became the UFO phenomena rule number one.... Words to live by, right?

    • @davids2254
      @davids2254 3 года назад +2

      Watch the skiis

  • @MatthewSalzer
    @MatthewSalzer 4 года назад +61

    The 2011 thing is technically a prequel

    • @romerolemstra8747
      @romerolemstra8747 4 года назад +3

      Yep

    • @ULTRAWIDE.
      @ULTRAWIDE. 4 года назад +16

      Not technically, it is.

    • @seanseanston
      @seanseanston 4 года назад +4

      @@ULTRAWIDE. Yes, though it's kind of interesting/cool that in overall storyline terms it's a direct prequel, but acts somewhat as a remake in terms of the general plot and mood etc. seeing as basically the exact same events unfold in both movies.

    • @Astrotrain78
      @Astrotrain78 4 года назад +2

      The 2011 The Thing is a Remake. They decived people telling them that it was a prequel.

    • @SteveNorwalt
      @SteveNorwalt 4 года назад +4

      A premake?

  • @ERON616
    @ERON616 4 года назад +9

    I'm an '80s kid, but the '50s have always been my favorite decade for sci-fi. Seeing this film at a young age - along with This Island Earth, Forbidden Planet, War of the Worlds, and The Fly - had a lot to do with that, as did '80s tribute movies like Explorers and the remake of Invaders From Mars. I still make it a point to go back and watch a lot of those old films as often as I can. Long live the classics!

  • @sirorliktheironclad
    @sirorliktheironclad Год назад +3

    This is exactly how I feel about the 1941 Wolfman not getting enough recognition as the 2010 Wolfman.

  • @CanuteViking
    @CanuteViking 4 года назад +51

    The 2011 movie wasn’t a remake, it was a prequel.

    • @313Games
      @313Games 4 года назад +4

      Snap, I was going to point out it was a prequel too.

    • @pizzatime7433
      @pizzatime7433 4 года назад

      You spelled terrible prequel wrong

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 4 года назад

      But with modern technology..... Hmmmm

    • @nukecorruption
      @nukecorruption 4 года назад

      I would've liked that movie more if they did it with practical effects like they were gonna originally, at least I think they were gonna

    • @HansDampf1911
      @HansDampf1911 4 года назад +2

      @@nukecorruption The sad thing is that most of the scenes WERE filmed with practical effects...but they decided to go full CGI later. Which was the worst move any The Thing fan ever could´ve imagined.

  • @greengamerguy623
    @greengamerguy623 4 года назад +49

    The Thing by John Carpenter is my favorite movie and horror movie

  • @ZeroRaven87
    @ZeroRaven87 4 года назад +62

    "The Thing (2011) was a remake of a remake"
    Uh.. no. The Thing (2011) was a prequel to a remake of an original.

    • @LOCKEYJ
      @LOCKEYJ 4 года назад +12

      A prequel with identical plot

    • @dacsus
      @dacsus 3 года назад +5

      @@LOCKEYJ Nah, it was well written - and the viewer finally learns what happened at that Norwegian station.
      It's sad that practical FX have been replaced with CGI (I'm not against CGI, only if they are done in a hurry, it's just obvious).

    • @TheDRODOR
      @TheDRODOR 3 года назад +1

      @@dacsus we didn't need to learn

    • @dacsus
      @dacsus 3 года назад +2

      @@TheDRODOR dude, your opinion is not everyone's opinion...

    • @TheDRODOR
      @TheDRODOR 3 года назад +2

      @@dacsus i'm just saying, the original stands very well on its own, it didn't need any expansion

  • @TheAdamisgay
    @TheAdamisgay 4 года назад +7

    14:00 Pfft. You lost me from here out. Silence, silence, jump scare? Characters lacked personality? Kurt Russel, Keith David, Wilford Brimley, Donald Moffat all nailed their parts. The supporting cast was great too.

  • @jakebiomask
    @jakebiomask 4 года назад +8

    I hate how he says Carpenter's The Thing is all about the special effects, it's about paranoia. It's amazing because of the brilliant directing, acting, music and atmosphere. The effects are just like the cherry on top.

  • @Giran_0
    @Giran_0 4 года назад +68

    James: Imagine you favorite movie gets remade and no one talks about the original
    Me:...... Dude I'm a Toho monster fan that is my whole life
    Also a Dragonball fan (not Z)

    • @edwarddore7617
      @edwarddore7617 4 года назад

      I definitely understand where you are coming from with Toho, but the only Dragon Ball I enjoy is Z, but then again I'm not the biggest Anime fan so, anything that is a bit or a full on parody on anime amuses me, One Punch Man is epic

    • @KdosdaHegen
      @KdosdaHegen 4 года назад +7

      I love Dragon Ball much more than Dragon Ball Z too.

    • @ZigealFaust
      @ZigealFaust 3 года назад

      @@edwarddore7617 Excel Saga is the best parody anime ever.
      I implore you to give it a go.

    • @Super_Suchi
      @Super_Suchi 3 года назад +2

      Well Z is just a continuation of Dragon Ball, not a reboot. The original manga has both Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z covered.

  • @AxenfonKlatismrek
    @AxenfonKlatismrek 4 года назад +18

    You know, 1982 "The Thing" was just made in different time, and if i was honest, i like 1982 version because they used creativity with the virus alien comes with.

  • @fortknobberdale
    @fortknobberdale 4 года назад +34

    Standalone content from James Rolfe is so good that I almost wish that the quarantine never ends. 👌😅

  • @TKQuick
    @TKQuick 3 года назад +17

    Love both Hawks and Carpenter versions. Hawks version is on the top of my “snowed in” movie list.

  • @VastIceGaming
    @VastIceGaming 4 года назад +52

    "Watch the skies, traveler." -Guard, Skyrim

    • @jordanjuarez8102
      @jordanjuarez8102 4 года назад +4

      I used to watch the skies, until I took an arrow to the knee.

    • @ZachBlackforest
      @ZachBlackforest 4 года назад

      @@jordanjuarez8102 Congratulations!

  • @choloman7635
    @choloman7635 4 года назад +105

    THE THING about James is that he's so interesting to listen.

  • @steveward6099
    @steveward6099 4 года назад +54

    Recently watched the original The Fly and The Thing on a double bill. I do love 50s Sci Fi. But I really feel you've downplayed Carpenter's film a little. I don't find the characters flat at all, a little burnt out but not flat. I also find plenty of natural humour in the 1982 film, some of the bickering is hysterical because it's so real and petty or just plain cold. Music, c'mon we have Ennio Morrocone emulating Carpenter's feel (So well some people think Carpenter did the music.) I remember that music from the beginning used to run chills down my spine. Over all I just love the cosmic horror of the 80's movie, it feels somewhat Lovecraftian at times due to it coming from pulp writer John Campbell. And that's kind of what is important, the novella was about a shape shifting 'Thing' that could be anyone and Hawk's movie is about a regenerating vegetable man.

    • @LJMiho
      @LJMiho 4 года назад +4

      My thoughts exactly!

  • @42swissmocha
    @42swissmocha 4 года назад +5

    The thing from another World is one of my all time favorites. I love how John Wayne described the difference between Hawks(Prosse) vs Ford (poetry). (Although Nyby is credited with the direction for this movie.) The fast paced overlapping dialog was a staple in Hawks movies and a real treat. Glad you are giving this movie the credit it deserves.

  • @mastermesian9821
    @mastermesian9821 4 года назад +24

    Let's also give it up for James Arness playing "The Thing" in the original. Seeing so much Gunsmoke I couldn't imagine Matt Dillon being an alien in a horror movie. But he killed it.

  • @JohnS1999
    @JohnS1999 3 года назад +20

    Thank you, James. This movie does not get anywhere the love it deserves. My mom showed me this as a child and it is still the stick I measure movies like this against.

  • @adiahaalexander9359
    @adiahaalexander9359 4 года назад +84

    I'm surprised you haven't reviewed The Invisible Man 2020. Seeing as how you love the universe monsters.

    • @InuYugiHakusho
      @InuYugiHakusho 4 года назад +7

      Maybe it's on James's "To Do" list.

    • @wstine79
      @wstine79 4 года назад +9

      Hopefully for Monster Madness 2020.

    • @Dragonfury3000
      @Dragonfury3000 4 года назад

      he can also do the mummy movies

    • @jack_meoff69
      @jack_meoff69 4 года назад +1

      @Brandon Hibbard its on VOD

    • @adiahaalexander9359
      @adiahaalexander9359 4 года назад +1

      @@Dragonfury3000 I thought he already did, didn't he?

  • @EazyDuz18
    @EazyDuz18 4 года назад +25

    'Keep watching the skeeeees.................umm.....skies' - That teenager from the Simpsons where Homer sees the alien in the woods

  • @KlldbyCuriosity
    @KlldbyCuriosity 3 года назад +67

    I feel like more people know this movie as “The Thing From Another World” not “The Thing”

    • @classicgunstoday1972
      @classicgunstoday1972 3 года назад +7

      My dad saw the original in 1951 in theaters. He and his generation have always called it: “The Thing”. “Hey you want to watch, The Thing?” I’ve been calling it that since I saw it growing up in the 80s and call the Carpenter version “the remake”.
      Even Stranger Things on Netflix they refer to both as “The Thing”. The classic or the new version. The original or the remake.

  • @lMrFresno559l
    @lMrFresno559l 4 года назад +5

    Listen, i love Howard Hawks. Love The Thing 1951 BUT you have to have the roseist or rose tinted glasses to think 51 is better than Carpenters. I mean come on James, i think you might be overly attached?

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 года назад

      I haven't seen the original film ever or the Carpenter version in years, but it seems that his love for the original stems from the 50s version having better characters and dialogue, while the 80s version has weaker characters but great effects that steal the show. I don't think that he has "rose tinted glasses" at all, he just has a deep appreciation for film from any decade in a way that most people don't.

    • @DevourTheLiving
      @DevourTheLiving 4 года назад +2

      He has a major nostalgia boner for the kinds of movies he's grown up with. Which is totally fine. We all do to an extent, I'm sure, but...
      The Thing From Another World is and always will be a classic. However, The Thing is an absolute master class in horror. James' dismissal of the remake saying there's no subtlety or atmosphere is especially puzzling. The Thing is just silence and then jump scares? What?

  • @pitprincexx1137
    @pitprincexx1137 4 года назад +46

    "That's when you school em" . Classic.

    • @dzeroprime1500
      @dzeroprime1500 4 года назад +3

      It's like "Parry this you filthy casual".

  • @YourGingerDaddy
    @YourGingerDaddy 3 года назад +13

    The Carpenter Version is the more Book accurate Version of the story. Where as The Thing from Another World, kinda throws its own twist on the tale.

  • @zw246
    @zw246 4 года назад +41

    I saw the title and wondered “is he talking about the Carpenter version or the ORIGINAL”

    • @epicgames2581
      @epicgames2581 4 года назад

      1:12

    • @CyberDragon10K
      @CyberDragon10K 4 года назад +1

      @Adam Apocalypse
      I'm mildly ashamed that didn't click until he threw out the obvious "Oh! You thought I meant the John Carpenter one!?" line, for as long as I've been subbed to James and for as much as he's proven his chops as a film buff over the decades.

  • @TheMagicRobot
    @TheMagicRobot 4 года назад +63

    "Imagine if one of your favorite movies got remade and then nobody talks about the original anymore."
    That's me with The Day The Earth Stood Still, now everyone associates the name with the dumb 2008 version.

    • @DevourTheLiving
      @DevourTheLiving 4 года назад +9

      Which is really a damn shame. The original is still one of the all time greats.

    • @garrettfromsmokeinthewoods
      @garrettfromsmokeinthewoods 4 года назад +3

      Or true grit.

    • @KEVMAN7987
      @KEVMAN7987 4 года назад +2

      There's a recent TDTESS remake?

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 4 года назад

      @@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods Agreed, both are great, and well worth watching, but the original with The Duke is still the best for me.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 4 года назад

      @@KEVMAN7987 Yep, it's got Keanu Reeves in it, and if you have Hulu it's on there, but I would not bother watching, i think I got about 1/2 way through before falling asleep from boardom, and my girlfriend shaking me to wake up because I was snoring on the couch which is easy to do for use since both end turn into recliners lol.

  • @nslater1388
    @nslater1388 4 года назад +3

    My father showed me the original when I was a kid back in the 90’s. The worst part was how he would explain everything in such a way I was always scared that the Thing could be around the next corner. The hand suddenly moving on it’s own still gives me chills.

  • @ThePuttercross
    @ThePuttercross 4 года назад +20

    The Thing from another world was my dad's favorite movie. We watched it many times together. John Carpenter's The Thing was one of my favorite horror movies and we watched it together as well. Miss that guy, RIP dad.

    • @graciegj63
      @graciegj63 4 года назад +1

      I'm sorry for your loss. At least you have lots of happy memories of him until you get to see him again.

    • @heavysystemsinc.
      @heavysystemsinc. 4 года назад +1

      Me and my dad loved watching the '82 version together. He liked the original, too, but I personally didn't see it until well after I'd seen the '82 original and I sought it out on my own.

    • @wareforcoin5780
      @wareforcoin5780 4 года назад

      RIP dad, you sounded like a real cool dude

  • @Ryanbenitezfilms
    @Ryanbenitezfilms 4 года назад +22

    I remember one day, my father and I picked up a new york style pizza and watched The Thing from another world and it was awesome. I wouldn't recommend eating pizza while watching the 1982 version LOL

  • @dirtygrampa4793
    @dirtygrampa4793 3 года назад +4

    The original thing from another world is a great movie. Too bad it gets overlooked.

  • @zachsnow8223
    @zachsnow8223 4 года назад +9

    THANK YOU! I love the Carpenter version, but Carpenter himself loves the Howard Hawks/Christian Nyby classic, so I doubt he would want his version to completely eclipse the original. Hawks had a skill at showing fast talking 'professionals,' also seen in His Girl Friday and Only Angels Have Wings, in a way that is compelling to watch. It annoys me when people just dismiss that version as a cheap B-movie when it's actually a sci-fi classic that was partially crafted by one of the greatest directors of all time. While the 80s movie is now rated about right, a classic of its time, the 50s film should be seen and respected as a great piece of science fiction in its own right.

  • @mrgernade
    @mrgernade 4 года назад +14

    The 1980’s version is one my favorite horrow movies from my 2000’s childhood. I had no idea there was a 1950’s original, now im very interested in it

    • @MichaelDiPrima03201994
      @MichaelDiPrima03201994 4 года назад +4

      You have a long way to go if that’s the case. A lot of 1980s horror movies got inspired by those that came out in the 50s and 60s.

    • @demi-fiendoftime3825
      @demi-fiendoftime3825 4 года назад +1

      @Empowered Vagina How do you do giant ants without being silly

    • @heavysystemsinc.
      @heavysystemsinc. 4 года назад +1

      I'm glad there's younger folks interested in the culture and history of horror films. Just wait until you get to why more modern horror movies are more meta because the literal style originals became somewhat stale and so going meta was a way to keep them fresh and continues to this day.

  • @thetayz72
    @thetayz72 4 года назад +5

    I actually never knew about the oldest one. John Carpenter's is one of my favorite movies. It's like a whodunnit murder mystery, but stranded in Antarctica with shape-shifting aliens. Awesome.

  • @snowstorm209
    @snowstorm209 4 года назад +104

    James,
    Can you do an in depth review of "THEM!"
    I can't seem to find one online.
    I feel you could do it justice.

    • @Kullen64
      @Kullen64 4 года назад +9

      I’ve felt the same way for a long time. Such a good movie and James is perfect for it.

    • @spyderc85
      @spyderc85 4 года назад +6

      Absolutely. This would be epic

    • @MegaCrocosaurus92
      @MegaCrocosaurus92 4 года назад +4

      BRO I would be able to die happy if he did that movie!

    • @shallendor
      @shallendor 4 года назад +4

      THEM is one of those movies i love to watch and has such a distinct sound to it!

    • @bradleyjohnson1702
      @bradleyjohnson1702 4 года назад +3

      100% love "THEM!', pretty sure sombody watched that one before writing "Aliens", there are a lot of plot similarities

  • @Michelrs
    @Michelrs 4 года назад +51

    John Carpenter's The Thing is the best horror movie ever made, prove me wrong

    • @jgrillo638
      @jgrillo638 4 года назад +5

      Never would its the best

    • @heathenbreathinfire
      @heathenbreathinfire 4 года назад +6

      I can't because you're right!

    • @nooctip
      @nooctip 4 года назад +4

      Halloween exists. I need prove nothing.

    • @ChakatStripedfur
      @ChakatStripedfur 4 года назад +2

      I think you misspelled "Alien".

    • @trixstermillion2190
      @trixstermillion2190 4 года назад +4

      I might have to give a tie to Alien, and also nominate both as best science fiction film, too.

  • @TechBoxNorth
    @TechBoxNorth 2 года назад +1

    Yesterday me and some friends played the new The Thing - The board game based mostly on the 1982 movie but we all knew the 1951 movie as our favorite. Great video!

  • @StCerberusEngel
    @StCerberusEngel 4 года назад +31

    I never refer to the Hawks' version as "The Thing." It's The Thing From Another World, and that's what I call it. It's the same reason I would never call Who Goes There by the title "The Thing". I also love both versions, but Carpenter's is my preferred adaptation. I disagree with your points on building suspense. I think both do it perfectly fine, but in different ways.
    If I'm in the mood for an old-school classic, I watch The Thing From Another World. Otherwise, I watch The Thing. And I don't mean that thing they made in 2011 that tried to replace the real The Thing.
    And that's the thing about The Thing.

    • @timrosswood4259
      @timrosswood4259 4 года назад

      I love that pun!

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 4 года назад +3

      The Thing From Another World, John Carpenter's The Thing, and The Thing, are three different movies and those are their titles.

    • @psychonaut1829
      @psychonaut1829 4 года назад

      The thing from another world is a classic monster movie, Carpenters The Thing is a psychological thriller and Mystery with great acting and maybe the most well aged visual effects ive ever seen. No comparison.

  • @derryman8576
    @derryman8576 4 года назад +51

    All of John Carpenter's movies have so many alternative theories to the meanings of the movies and why scenes were shot the way they were.

    • @difficultbastard
      @difficultbastard 4 года назад +1

      I've already mentioned elsewhere, but their are so many little details, such as the bllod cabinet mystery, and the clothing and coat hints.

    • @KRhetor
      @KRhetor 4 года назад +2

      It's less intentional and more due to Carpenter's sloppiness as a director and lack of attention to detail.

    • @poika22
      @poika22 4 года назад +5

      @@KRhetor Well if you consider not spoonfeeding the audience and hammering every point home a dozen times so that even the dumbest popcorn munching Chinese teenager will understand what's going to be sloppy then yes, Carpenter is a sloppy director.

    • @xxx0ox0
      @xxx0ox0 4 года назад +2

      @@poika22 tell em. I like to have open ended movies not everything needs to be plain as day

  • @eightbitmonkey
    @eightbitmonkey 4 года назад +7

    I've watched the 1950's "The Thing" hundreds of time's. Its one of my all time favorite films. John Carpenter's "The Thing" is definitely a classic though. I would easily recommend both for various reasons already stated by James.

  • @joeboyko8013
    @joeboyko8013 4 года назад +35

    So many people love to comment before even watching the video. He isn't talking about _'John Carpenter's, The Thing'..._ Although that movie is still way up there as one of my favorite horror movies of all time.

  • @truepatriot3768
    @truepatriot3768 4 года назад +38

    Carpenter's the thing sequel is 2002 game" the thing". Which is criminally underrated game

    • @PepeCaseres
      @PepeCaseres 4 года назад +1

      True Patriot one of the best games from the decade

    • @My-Name-Isnt-Important
      @My-Name-Isnt-Important 4 года назад +6

      Since the *Friday the 13th* game did so well, it would be nice if a *Thing* multiplayer game would be made too. The paranoia would settle in quickly and would make for a great experience, not knowing who to trust and that one of the other players is the creature. They could have environmental hazards, such as taking damage if you stay outside too long, and certain things that must be done as a team, so as to force the players to have to try and work together.

    • @phataguilar1724
      @phataguilar1724 4 года назад

      I'm glad to still own the game in good condition. I'm about to get the game Obscure to add to my horror game collection

    • @darkknightzombie2013
      @darkknightzombie2013 3 года назад

      @@My-Name-Isnt-Important man predicted among us

  • @chuckfinley846
    @chuckfinley846 3 года назад +2

    I really like the Hawkes film, but Carpenter has this wonderful ambiguous ending, that always leaves you guessing what happens when the ending titles cut in
    "Why don't we just... wait here for a little while... see what happens?"

  • @HighwayUK
    @HighwayUK 4 года назад +37

    I was under the impression that 'The Thing' 2011 was a prequel to the carpenter one, which is why they overlap and have many of the same scenes recreated, it wasn't a reboot at all. As to the original, yea, I grew up in the 70's so was brought up on all the B&W classics, but much prefer the 1982 version for not being what I'd call a Sunday afternoon version. I realise that schlock style was a thing of the time, but wasn't many I cared about beyond Forbidden Planet or maybe Invaders from Mars, This Island Earth, or even Robinson Crusoe on Mars. Stuff like The Day the earth stood still certainly has stood the test of time (Sorry Keanu your version sucked balls). :p

    • @sopothetocho
      @sopothetocho 4 года назад +14

      It is a prequel, the studio marketed it as a reboot and covered all the practical effects with CGI. :/

    • @carlpott2961
      @carlpott2961 4 года назад +5

      You can call the 2011 version a prequel, but really it’s a clumsy reboot, copping any decent ideas from the Carpenter film. Now a Carpenter sequel would be ideal, but very unlikely. The Thing hasn’t aged but everybody else sure has.

    • @journeyman1218
      @journeyman1218 4 года назад +9

      It was a prequel.
      It's also the biggest travesty in recent years in Hollywood. They took the studio ADI practical effects and put cheap cgi over them.

    • @RupeeRhod
      @RupeeRhod 4 года назад +1

      It was a reboot, it wasn't a remake. It was also a prequel, but it can be both a reboot and a prequel.

    • @darkwoods1954
      @darkwoods1954 4 года назад +1

      It was what I call a premake. They put a few quick details in so they could claim it as a prequel but still just repeat the same story as the last movie, basically remaking it and not having to actually come up with any new ideas.

  • @hakkiw
    @hakkiw 4 года назад +5

    Oh you're talking about The thing from 1951? Its ok i guess, I thought you where talking about the original original The thing from 1846, now THATS a classic.

  • @mnomic8371
    @mnomic8371 4 года назад +1

    The 2011 version of The Thing is not a remake of the Thing from the 80’s. The 2011 version is the prequel to the John Carpenter’s movie which explains what happened in the Norweigan base camp.

  • @apiocosmico833
    @apiocosmico833 4 года назад +12

    I saw this movie back when I was 12 years old, I started appreciating old stuff from the 40's - 50's more thanks to the original The thing, now I have 17 years, I don't have a bunch of friends to talk about horror movies since they hate that genre because is too cliche at this point, but at least I'm happy to know the origins of such classic saga of all the story of cinema.

    • @ryanisaac6480
      @ryanisaac6480 4 года назад

      I love horror movies, some people ask why I love horror movies like I'm batshit crazy. How can you not love horror/ sci-fi element movies is the question.