I love my LP Classic. It's extremely versatile but still sounds like what we expect a LP to sound like. I've played a 60's and 50's Standard, both sound outstanding but I really like the option of the on-board effects. It's a lot of fun experimenting in conjunction with pedals and amps.
I have a range of Les Pauls from the Tribute Special to an R9, and they all have their own distinct feel and sound. The Out-of-Phase position on the 2019 classics is a very unique sound.
I own a tribute. Love how it feels and sounds. Wanting to purchase a classic however I do not like the Grover kidney bean tuners and the slimmer neck profile
@@johndaugherty4127 I got a Tribute again a few months back (2018 Goldtop), and tbh, it's a really nice guitar. I think sometimes it's being a little bit lucky, in getting hold of a good one. Plus I don't worry about it when I'm gigging in pubs and clubs, which I definitely did with my higher end models 😁
I have a 2021 LP Classic in cherry. I swapped the cream plastics for black. In 2016 I bought a LP Classic Rock II and never bonded with it. When i bought this classic, I figured if I didn't like it, I would send it back. Straight out of the box, it was a keeper.
The modern classics, whilst being perfectly decent are not the same guitars. The 90's classics thru to some time in the early 00's were considered to be higher up in the model range than the standards of the time with some of the more historically correct features like smaller headstock, ABR-1 bridges. They had hot ceramic pickups though. I have a 2000 classic with a highly flamed honey burst plus top and a 1 piece back. Swapped the pickups out for Monty's PAFs. Lovely 60's slim neck - no need for a custom shop or greeny and better than a new standard, (and at least as good as a 90's standard) for me anyway. I like the slim neck and vintage looks and don't care for push pull pots, excessive weight relief or modern finishes. Basically I want the closest thing I can get to a 59 (or really 60's LP with the slim neck) without paying crazy money for an R9 so the older classic models are a good fit for people with that mindset. It's the only LP I've had where I have stopped wondering what a "proper" Les Paul would be like.
I have a 2016 LP Classic…. Didnt like the push/pull knobs and the 61 Buckers…. Replaced with a normal Gibby pcb board and a set of Duncan Saturday Night Special…
My 2021 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus "limited edition" is the best of both worlds. It has 50s wiring with 60s neck and pickups. 9 hole weight relief and aged satin nitro sunburst. Light flame top too.
My 2021 classic limited edition has standard pots and wiring instead of coil splitters. It still has 60s neck and pickups, 9 hole relief, and grovers...so its best of both worlds for me.
I've owned Standards, Customs, Studios, and a couple classics. I mean. I get what he's saying. You can't argue it. The standard and custom have that unmistakable les paul sound. However. It's so close. Especially if you are running an equal of any sort. Then I can't even tell. And when you gig, that coil tapping is awesome. I don't think you would be wrong going either way.
I own a 2014 Studio with the push/pull Coil splits. And I really like the versatility, especially because it's my only guitar atm. I'm not sure if I'd use the funcions nearly as much if I would own multiple instruments but overall I'm very pleased withh the option to get a more straty sound for clean parts when wanted to :)
I got an 04’ Classic and I absolutely love that guitar…. I’ve owned a 76’ Custom,99 Standard and have played numerous Gibsons ect. The Classic is by far my favorite.. Mine doesn’t have push/pull pots or weight relief.. I believe the Classic came out in either 96’ or 99’ I can’t remember but I do know that intial decade run of the Classic was the closest Gibson was in recreating it’s 59-60 Unicorns… in fact I’m sure the custom shop or Murphy lab was in the helm in the first few years… Anyhow she was born Ebony and I had her completely refinished Silverburst and had everything replaced and giving her parts and 498’s to a 1980 Aria pro II Standard that is another monster… Don’t sleep on the vintage Japanese guitars… they’re killer and still to be found at a decent price.
I bought this guitar 2 years ago (2021) and it has become my #1 gigging Les Paul albeit with a couple of mods. The stock pickups were not at all to my liking. I find the 61 series pickups to be muddy and lack note definition, i.e. terrible and I knew that going in. So, I changed the pickups to my good old favorite Dimarzio Super Distortions and had my tech remove the circuit board (which I call a tone sucker) and rewire the guitar with CTS pots, bumblebee caps and treble bleeds on both pickups WITHOUT the push/pull coil taps, phase or bypass which I never use on a Les Paul. I am old school and have other guitars for single coil tones. I wanted a ""Classic"" in the truest '70's sense of the word and now this guitar screams Classic! I also top wind the strings to reduce the break angle and use Ernie Ball Regular RPS (Reinforced Plain String) 10-46 strings for much, much better tuning stability. Of course I've kept the original electronics in a box and they're put away for safekeeping. This is a great guitar and I love the neck profile. Even with the weight relief my guitar weighs in at a whopping 9lbs 10oz!
I have the Gibson LP Classic. However, I do like the different sound of the Standard. I can't afford to buy a standard now, so I'm going to buy an epiphone LP custom. It's a fraction of the cost of the Gibson with 95 percent of the sound.
Hey thanks for watching! On the topic of an Epiphone, just make sure you find one with good fret work. It's a bit of a hit or miss with the neck, but when you find the right one, it's true value for money.
@@loudmikedxbTrue. Even though I just bought the Gibson Classic, my go to guitar is my Epi Slash goldtop Les Paul. It is by far the nicest Les Paul I have ever played.
Love the video! Answers all the Standard v Classic comparision questions. The out of phase option is pretty cool. Now you dont need to buy the "Greenie". Thanks for posting!
I bought a new Standard in 2019, and then a Classic (in ebony) in 2020. The Classic was a new factory 2nd (small buffing issue). I fixed the buffing issue in less than 10 minutes and got it for $1500-1600! Iove them both, but I would probably keep the Classic if I HAD to give up one. It feels identical but sounds ever so slightly livelier and the Standard 'might' sound a little thicker, but they're a hair within each other - even in weight (don't feel ANY weight relief on the Classic. Love the uncovered zebra Burstbuckers - especially with ebony. Both fantastic Les Pauls. The coil split does its own thing. It has nothing to do with trying to sound like a Strat - and it could never get close anyway. Love splitting the neck pickup and rolling back the volume for a great rhythm tone, and then flipping to the bridge wide open, or close, for a solo or for chunk.
I have Lemonburst AAA Les Paul Standard, and the same Les Paul Classic you have there. I love them equally the same, and there are many differences between the two, but yet the same. My Standard plays killer, and sounds friggin amazing. Best sounding guitar I have. My classic plays a little better then my Standard, but does not sound quite as good as my Lemonburst. My guitars weigh roughly the same, 10 pounds. But the weight relief one, the classic, feels different then the non weight relief, even though same weight. I could go on for days,
Sounds like you found the right two LPs to own! Congrats and hope they get even better with age. Thanks for watching and dont forget to support the channel by subscribing!
Well thanks for the explaination! Indeed I prefer the "old" LP sound.... BUT: playability is a VerY big thing for me . . Are you going to compare the "old" LP with the LP-modern with carved out neckjoint for enhanced playability?
I got a LP Classic in 2020. I love it. What is neat about this configuration is that its pretty much the same at Jimmy Page's Les Paul. I bet if everyone led with that fact, fanboys would be creaming over this guitar instead of putting down its push pull options.
People are so vocal in putting stuff down because of modern narcissism. If you don't like push/pulls... the alternative is extremely SIMPLE: don't use them.
I have a '99 Classic 1960 RI, it has the 496R/500T pickups and aged inlays, and Kluson tuners, no push pull knobs, yours looks a bit different with grover tuners and does not have the 1960 stamp on the pick guard. Mine sounds great and is light with a honey burst finish.
Hello! The constant change of hardware features and pickup configuration over the years makes it hard to even classify what makes a Classic and what makes a Standard when seen on a time scale longer than three years, I think. How much does yours weigh?
I have Custom and Standard Les Pauls and a Modern SG, I like the modern the most, the out-of-phase with a lot of gain on your amp makes a great tone. The Custom is very fancy, I play it the least because it is the most expensive and a heavy beast. I plan on upgrading all my guitars to push-pulls, so many extra tones available, it is a no-brainer once you own one.
Glad to see a positive comment about the push-pull knobs! Me personally, the 50s Standard is doing the job quite well. I had a Custom a few years back and for some strange reason, the bridge pickup was just too soft. It’s sometimes frustrating to deal with Gibson’s inconsistencies. But man, when you find the right one… it’s THE one.
Before I watch this, I must say in all honesty- the absolute best Les Paul I've ever played is the 2022 Classic 60s style in Heritage Cherry. Push pull pots etc I own and have owned- 2011 Les Paul Standard 60s Gold Top 2022 Les Paul Standard 50s Honey Burst Les Paul Custom Cherry Burst 3 DiMarzio Humbuckers 1987 Les Paul Studio Back w Gold 2007 Les Paul Studio White w Gold Les Paul Special Faded - TV Yellow I would highly recommend every one of them. However, there is something about this Classic that is more perfect than the others. The neck, the tones, the versatility, the feel, the look, the weight. Everything is just right. So, I'm here to say- if you're thinking about one of these Classics, I strongly recommend you go for it!
Before you buy a custom or even a standard with a friend we got a tribute and a classic for the money one to beat one to love and a little SG with some hot Lyndy Fralins and three that's all you need for the price of one with money left over for a kick ass amp
I have a classic in translucent cherry. I was planning to buy a standard or modern but after playing the classic didn't think it was worth buying the standard or modern. Maybe because the tone on all is great and I didn't think there was a tangible difference. For my playing style I prefer the brightness and clarity of the 61 pickups. And I much prefer the translucent cherry finish over the flame tops you get on the standards for $300 more... unless you want to spend the big bucks for a more unique flame color versus the old standard boring tobacco, cherry burst, etc that you get in the cheaper standard models. But that's just preference. The coil tapping on the classic is worthless. Gibson needs to take notes from PRS on coil tapping because all three of my PRS guitars coil tapping is significantly better. I really don't think any of the three Gibsons you mentioned standard, classic, or modern sound any better than the other, just slightly different depending on the pickups and some other minor things. I'd really take any of them. Even the three studios I've owned sounded almost the same really.. especially in overdrive. A lot of this comes down to good marketing and more bling... though each will sound slightly different. I only sold my studios and bought a classic because I only paid $180 more used with a hard case... but other than the extra bling and brighter pickups on the classic I don't really notice much difference...both are quite good...
Couldn't agree with you more. It's true that Gibson sometimes feels like they're trying to overly maximize returns on the Les Paul brand by offering options that tend to extend upwards in the budget range. It's something you see a lot in luxury brands - one base model, but numerous variations. I personally would love it if Gibson now takes risks and try to create a truly new guitar built for this era, targeting young guitar players through a new set of tones and a down to earth price.
@@loudmikedxb exactly! It's funny how people buy into what these companies try to convince them of so easily. And for some very subtle difference they will change sometimes double or triple the price...such a just adding binding will cost about $800 more...or a prettier flame top...$700 more...or custom shop which adds some very slight difference in something like capacitors which is a really cheap upgrade will cost double, etc. It's more about ego than actual real sound. But I can't say I haven't become victim to that either since I own thousands of dollars worth of high end guitars. I just love guitars and have money to burn... but I certainly could get killer tone, feel, and playability out of some fairly inexpensive guitars these days. They may not look as pretty as my $4k plus beautiful PRS core custom 24 with exotic flame top but at the end of the day all that bling doesn't make the guitar sound better... but it does look damn cool and surely can impress people and make me feel like the man when my friends see it lol.
@@bushcry1 no problem. My cousin collects guitars too and just sold his Gibson classic Les Paul classic and bought another studio and loves it. Check out guitarists on RUclips... the English dude had every Les Paul under the sun and sold his custom shop because even though it was a trophy art beautiful to own it didn't sound or feel any better than many of his cheaper ones... but if you have money to burn it's fun to own all of them just for their slight variation and beauty
@thadlogan51 i think it's the other way around. Gibson (and any brand) releases something, then people start shouting that they want this or that...... so Gibson sees a "market" for it and releases something with it. But then the other people start shouting about them adding it... People just like to complain and moan: if you don't like coil taps... just don't use them. You can absolutely have a guitar with coil taps and never use them and be perfectly fine. If you don't like all the details and extras in the $8k fancy guitars... don't get them. Get the stripped down Studio or Tribute. Those have pretty much all the sound, and none of the bling. But if you like bling... there ya go, get a Custom with all the bindings and gold hardware.
this classic sounds very muddy!! i played a 2006 classic yesterday here in nyc and it was much clearer! in the comparison you. made the standard was much better...great video...and yoir friend is funny! SUBSCRIBED
Just go get a new set of ears! I own a standard 60s and a classic. The Les Paul Classic can be anything but MUDDY! These kinda disgraceful words can never ever suit any guitar that reaches this price range, they are all somewhere on the top range of mass-produced guitars, not some random 200 bucks budget junk that can be called "muddy" sounding!
The limited edition Chicago Blue Les Paul Classic is selling at a local guitar center and its on sale but im a poor person and it makes me sad. I want this guitar so bad lol
That's a bummer! But if your cash situation won't allow it, it's ok. Let it go. Nothing worse than getting something you love only to constantly think you're gonna have to sell it for cash later. Sometimes, the right guitar is when the price is right and the time is right. Speaking from experience.
I just got a Gibson Classic today, so ill see, but my go to guitar is my Epi Slash goldtop. It is by far the best Les PaulIhave ever played of any brand.
My first Gibson was a classic, I didn't like it, not what i thought it was. I had an epiphone classic that i customized, I liked the sound of that one better. So I traded my Gibson classic and got the 50's standard, it lived up to the hype. A better quality build and a sweeter, smoother sound.
I got one these LP Classic in trade yesterday. I'm not a fan. Going to be selling asap for cheap. I've come to the recent conclusion if you want the real original legendary Gibson LP sound then you have to go Custom Shop.
I love the Customs Shops. The only problem for us here is the shipping - something happens to these guitars in transit and they arrive with random issues. Could be neck warping or strange intonation. Ive tried two different Custom Shops in the last year here in Dubai and were disappointed with the quality.
I view it as binding. If it has binding it is the higher end models. No binding are about 1600 and lower. I think these classics are a good deal. For abit more than a studio you get one that just looks nicer. The studios just have a cheaper look to them
It’s seems to me that classics are basically standards with the coil tap and a slim taper neck profile. If you took a modern classic and swooped the PCB board and replaced with 50s wiring, then you pretty much have a standard. I have older classic (1990 and 2005) and more recent standards and a custom shop. The classic play every bit as good of the others, especially if you change pickups and add 50s wiring on the more recent classics.
@ yea I know this all too well. I have been lucky with standards and currently have 2 (2021 and 2022) and both play great. My two classics play just as well but just different because the necks are a lot slimmer. I even have a R9 Murphy lab and I have to say it’s not ever my favorite out of the bunch which is sad. I always mod guitars so things like pick ups are not a big deal to me, easy enough to change them out for something different. Cheers
Got a question: what's the main differences between a Gibson Les Paul classic and a Gibson Les Paul traditional pro iv? btw love what your doing man keep up the great work 👍
Hello there! Your question actually got me doing some research. Unfortunately, the Trad Pro line is a US exclusive so it's hard for me to get my hands on one. But from what I can tell, it's quite similar to the current Classic except it has a unique set of humbuckers not found on the regular Classics. There are some spec differences as well but I would have to do a proper episode to go over them. Now if only I can get one to review.
I own the Epiphone Les Paul Classic and I have had it for a few months now. Pros are the quality is very spot on and I enjoy the feel of the body and the frets. It has also stayed in tune and intonated since I purchased it. The only con I have is the pickups installed. They sound alright through a clean and crunch channel but with distortion it doesn't sound very hot. I think if you put in some Seymour Duncan's they would sound a lot more better. Conclusion if you are in to modern versatile guitars but like the vintage look and feel then this guitar is for you. If you want more closer specs to a original Les Paul then I recommend looking at some standard models like the 59 or 60's models. I plan on adding lock in tuners, strap locks and replacing the pickups to have Seymour Duncan's 59's. Overall great guitar!
as a US Fender Strat owner AND a Gibson LP Classic owner... my Classic does NOT sound anything like my Strat. I have no idea how you think it sounds anything close.
Nice vid on the various tonal possibilities with the classic. I just got one (same color too) especially after Gibson announced a price drop by $300 USD at the end of July. I don't play in a band so having it in humbucker or single coil mode is an easy switch for me. Thanks for posting!
1st time here, and thoroughly enjoyed the comparison and the alter ego comment s, add s a nice touch to the video which also ask and answer s questions that are on my mind. I recently purchased my first Gibson LP, the Studio Plus with the 490 T and 498 R. I always get the letters mixed up so I may have them wrong? But nevertheless absolutely love the tone they produce. There's just such a depth and warmth and fullness to the sound of The Studio. Very balanced and the finish of the AA Flame top is something a blind man would luv2C. Tho I wanted to round out my guitar collection with other types or sounds, IE Strat or Tele or Firebird, i have a feeling that one day I'll end up with more than 1 LP. 60s Standard in Smokehouse burst really catches my eye . Keep up the informative reactions, looking 4ward2 more from you.
Great video. Definitely makes it confusing seeing how Gibson changed the Classic like every 10 years or so, and how the first generation Classics are almost like a reissue in a way. And to make it confusing again, for some time Gibson had their Traditional line too… which if I remember correctly might be considered what the Standards are now?
I have a 2013 Traditional and a 2020 Classic. Both sounds almost equal. Subtle differences between the 57 and 61 pickuos, and the classic has a better finish and confortable 60s neck. Why paying more dor something equal or even worst ?
Ive heard good things about the Traditional. I believe today’s 50s Standard is the evolution of that model, and I love mine. Love the neck profile. As for the Classic, completely agree with you. It’s the most reliable workhorse of the LPs in today’s range.
Have a custom which is the first when I gravitate to you every time also have a standard Adam Jones which I enjoy but don’t like the next so I have a hard time connecting and I got rid of my 2001 studio which I loved but didn’t have the aesthetics that I like also have a 2003 American standard fender teli may have to get rid of it just can’t connect to it plays nice but just just don’t like
Why are some weight relieved and some not? I see one for sale, a Classic 2022 and the store says it is not weight relieved. So who’s telling the truth?
I also have a 2000 Classic. Only change I made was throwing a couple '57 pups in it. It is am amazing Les Paul for sure. My 2010 Classic I will leave as is.
Correct in everything you say. All those extra electronics and still hundreds of dollars cheaper? Gibson know that buying a Gibson is more an emotional than a rational choice. (I bought the 50s Standard!)
Yes, and they also know that their target can afford the higher price on the Standard. (And yes, I also ended up getting a 50s model). I saw an interesting video from Rhett Shull saying that new young guitar players are simply staying away from Gibson due to price, and that's why Gibson's future might be in question. But I guess for now, us Gibson aficionados will just keep the company going at least for a few more decades.
I really like these classics but that $300 price increase has been hard to swallow. I believe of all the Gibson USA guitars the classic has had the biggest price increase. I think Gibson caught on to how good value these were and raised the price more. The classic is as good as the standard, it just depends on if you want a modern or more traditional set of specs, both great. It does seem weird the “classic” is in the modern collection but Gibson was never very good with their naming lol.
True dat. Their naming system is quite confusing, and I only started to understand it when I sat down and researched the history. I personally think the Classic is the most ideal LP for general use. That weight relief alone makes the guitar easier to bring anywhere and play.
I absolutely love my honeyburst 2022 les paul classic and my favourite thing about it is probably the plain maple top on it as just nice wood grain is very underrated these days! Great video!
The differences are superfluous at best. Gibsons problem is they don’t really have a “jumbo fret” contemporary rock guitar in their range. Personally I’d redo the classic with 6100 fretwire and hot ceramic pickups. Turn it into a rock machine. But for some reason Gibson won’t do proper big frets on anything they make. Which is pitiful as their competitors all do.
If i hear what you're saying, you're suggesting to turn the Classic into a more distinctly different guitar with the intention of making it a hotter sounding guitar. I completely agree. Might as well branch out and give people a sensible variation - and price it even lower, if possible.
Gibsons "marketing" reminds me of the star wars " marketing" They chop and change the story line to extract every dollar and they are just reinventing the wheel.
1st of all, all guitars made by a given brand are NOT equal. The high end vs basic entry model are radically different. Now, if you are a novice, you probably won't benefit from a high end model and if you are an experienced player, the basic model probably won't be all that satisfying. This may be difficult for some people to accept but it's more than cosmetic. You can't just throw some new pick ups, tuners and a bridge into the basic model and expect to have the same thing as the top of the line model. I've had both, I've tried the upgrade path and I can tell you this. If you try to upgrade a guitar into being a better guitar you will be seriously disappointed and waste an awful lot of money. Now, trying out new pick ups, tuners, etc to see how they are on your guitar, that makes sense but it will still be the same instruments you started with. You can roll a turd in glitter and tie a bow in it but at the end of the day, it's still a turd. So, once you arrive at a place where you need a better instrument, then getting a better instrument will help and by then you will probably know what works for you. It's not simply the price tag and that's where the problem begins. People associate price with things without necessarily understanding the what and why of things. Buying an expensive guitar won't make you better. The instrument is an extension of you, you are not an extension of the instrument. So, a great instrument will help a great musician sound great. A port musician will still be a poor musician no matter what instruments they play. So, is the basic model good or bad? Neither! It has a job, it is a tool, that is all. Depending on what you need it for, it may be suitable or not. If you are a beginner, it will be fine. You are learning and perhaps starting to perform. So, perfect for that job. It doesn't need to be precious for that. But if you are a professional that is trying to make a living, you probably need something better to do your job. It's a tool, they are all just tools. If you are recording or playing large venues, your livelihood depends on your equipment and having something reliable that does it's job is a must. So, simply asking is any guitar a good choice is a nice primer but the question lacks context. It depends on who you are addressing and what their needs are. Not wants, but needs. So, who likely needs the basic model and who needs the expensive model? Once you understand that, the price has context, the user has context and the instruments have context. They are simply tools.
Agree with you. I think the interesting thing about guitars is that different people get different things out of it. And sometimes just the storytelling behind a brand can inspire the musician - who probably sounds just as great on a different guitar. It just depends on the psychology of the player. I played with a guy who absolutely hated expensive brands so stuck with affordable but well chosen knockoffs, but my God, he was good. And on the other hand, also played with people who are very picky about their brand and sound amazing when paired with their guitar of choice. But for sure, when starting out, I believe everyone should focus more on getting their chops right on a practical guitar instead of focusing on the gearhead aspect of being a guitarist. Thanks for watching and for writing your comment!
Hi there. Not sure I agree 100% with yr comments about "Buying an expensive guitar won't make you better". I learnt to play guitar 40 years ago as a young teenager, playing a crappy acoustic guitar (which i now have as a museum piece). I never realy enjoyed playing this guitar and so playing guitar became a hobby i would pickup maybe once a year, and never made any improvement. Since COVID lockdown I bought a nice Tommy Emmanuel acoustic and a Les Paul Studio. Both these guitars are fun to play and sound great. This encouraged me to play more and guitar became fun again and i think i sound pretty good now. Better guitar made an imediate improvement for me. Out of the standard or classic LP, think I prefer the looks of the Classic, but would love both.
@@paulcox6566 Absolutely agree! I think we have to clarify that there is a marginal return on investment when it comes to upgrading your instrument - but that return varies depending on the musicians. For some, an upgrade of a thousand dollars makes a whole lot of difference, and for some it may not. Also, it's important to note that having a great instrument that you like playing also makes you WANT to play more, and hence make you practice more. Which of course, leads to progress in your skill.
@@paulcox6566im playing on a squier strat with a pretty bad amp and i want to upgrade to at least a good amp or like a marshall stack and either a lp or fender strat.
True. The guys at Gibson call it a P90 sound. Which isn’t quite right either. In any case, thanks for watching and please subscribe to support the channel!
Take a Seymour Duncan Hot Rails and try the coil split. It's so close on my strats that it's negligible. For meny it'd not about copying a single coil sound. It's just different. And in the mix of a live band will fool 90% of the people
It wont sound like a single coil on a strat because the scale of the guitar is different, it sounds like a single coil on a Les Paul, which has its own uniqueness and charm. I agree with video, if you want a strat get a strat, but, that said, its nice having a les paul with more sonic capability than previous models.
@@801guitar3 I had one that had that weight, it was still lighter than the standard I bought around the same time. I remember telling the guy at the store how heavy the classic still felt, and he was like "give it time, the wood will dry and it will get lighter." I asked how long I had to wait. He said "50 years". Lol.
@@loudmikedxb Yeah, I have a non-weight-relieved Standard right at 9 lbs. I guess it's just the density of the wood mixed with the slightest percentage of moisture in it.
Something to think about... the Les Paul standard had almost the exact same specs in 2019 as the classic has today such as coil tappin, weight relief, etc ... minus flame top and locking tuners...in other words the 2020 or newer classic is the 2019 standard. People today buying a standard over a classic are just wasting money for the name or a flame top. It's been proven that weight relief doesn't effect the tone whatever... just watch Darrell Brauns video on RUclips on this. Here's a video on the 2019 standard showing it's for all the same specs as the classic pretty much... ruclips.net/video/1huvvsFt3go/видео.htmlfeature=shared
I have a classic. As well as a few others. I pulled all that nonsense out and put proper covered Burstbuckers in there. Now it’s a real LP. That push pull wasn’t fooling anyone.
I've had some people telling me they actually like that feature. Me personally, I like a guitar that does only a few things but does those things very well. Especially in a live setting.
I would say it has the pretty significant role of being the entry level LP. The gateway guitar! Thanks for watching and pls make sure to subscribe so u can be informed when the next episode is on air.
@@loudmikedxb that's a tribute you're referring to. My traditional cost $150..00 more than my classic. My classic was $1900.00 in 2020. My traditional was 2050.00 in 2018. My traditional was alot like a very heavy standard. No weight relief at all. Solid sounding guitar.
@@timtim-it3me sorry, my bad. Yes it does get tricky with the Traditional. We don’t have that in this part of the world, is it in stock where you are? Would love to try those pickups on a heavier body and hear what they’re like. Is it as heavy as a Custom?
Before you gut it, record the guitar (especially bridge pickup) and see if there's a difference afterwards. The wiring might be responsible for that "hotter sound". Quite curious actually. Thanks for watching. And please subscribe to support the channel!
No no NO! Classics *ARE NOT* "lighter" than Standards. A cursory look on any Gibson dealer site will reveal that BOTH range hugely between around 8lbs to well over 10lbs. The Classic has a few small holes which shaves less than 5% off the body blank's weight, but that means nothing when the weight of the wood varies massively.
These kinds of RUclips guitar players are such gear snobs. Have you noticed, they always say the more expensive guitar sounds better. Always some BS about the more expensive guitar sounding a little big better. What nonsense. I have a Classic and I tried the Standard before I bought it. The Classic has ALL the sounds of the Standard and the split-coil, and the out of phase, and the direct to bridge. Any slight difference in favor of either guitar can be achieved by tweaking the tone controls on either your guitar or amp. So, if you can get the same sounds BUY THE MORE VERSATILE GUITAR, the Classic. The Classic is objectively better because SAME TONE (most important), less expensive, and more versatile. Now if you're buying for looks, yeah get the standard and the flame maple top. But if you're buying for playability and tone, get the Classic. I forgot to mention the nicer 61-slim taper neck.
Interestingly, I do agree with you. I use the Classic for a lot of recording and gigging. And as value for money, it’s a great package. As a buyer, I would choose the Standard if the extra cost is not an issue and you prefer a simple old school Les Paul. And if you’re ok with the extra weight.
The Classic would be superior and the better value for your money. It does have have more features, even if you don't us them. Originally, the Classic was the more expensive model when it was introduced. In my opinion, the Standard is now more expensive based upon demand and sales. With more and more people gravitating towards the Standard in recent years (for whatever reasons), that is driving up the price. The "Modern" series is far superior to even both of them and the same price as a Standard but, the latest trend is to think older specs is better and anything "modern" is just not being welcomed.
I love my LP Classic. It's extremely versatile but still sounds like what we expect a LP to sound like. I've played a 60's and 50's Standard, both sound outstanding but I really like the option of the on-board effects. It's a lot of fun experimenting in conjunction with pedals and amps.
I have a range of Les Pauls from the Tribute Special to an R9, and they all have their own distinct feel and sound. The Out-of-Phase position on the 2019 classics is a very unique sound.
I've had Classics, Standards and Tributes. I still have a Classic 😉
I own a tribute. Love how it feels and sounds. Wanting to purchase a classic however I do not like the Grover kidney bean tuners and the slimmer neck profile
Does it have a gloss or satin finish on the neck ?
@@markolivares6943same here. Mine now has after market Gotoh locking tuners! Nice upgrade and it looks SWEET...
God bless you! That says it all to me!
@@johndaugherty4127 I got a Tribute again a few months back (2018 Goldtop), and tbh, it's a really nice guitar. I think sometimes it's being a little bit lucky, in getting hold of a good one. Plus I don't worry about it when I'm gigging in pubs and clubs, which I definitely did with my higher end models 😁
I have a 2019 transparent cherry classic. I set it up and it plays like butter and sounds great!!
I have a 2021 LP Classic in cherry. I swapped the cream plastics for black. In 2016 I bought a LP Classic Rock II and never bonded with it. When i bought this classic, I figured if I didn't like it, I would send it back. Straight out of the box, it was a keeper.
Sounds like you found a good one. Good to hear!
Did the same here, changed the pick guard from cream to black.
The modern classics, whilst being perfectly decent are not the same guitars. The 90's classics thru to some time in the early 00's were considered to be higher up in the model range than the standards of the time with some of the more historically correct features like smaller headstock, ABR-1 bridges. They had hot ceramic pickups though. I have a 2000 classic with a highly flamed honey burst plus top and a 1 piece back. Swapped the pickups out for Monty's PAFs. Lovely 60's slim neck - no need for a custom shop or greeny and better than a new standard, (and at least as good as a 90's standard) for me anyway. I like the slim neck and vintage looks and don't care for push pull pots, excessive weight relief or modern finishes. Basically I want the closest thing I can get to a 59 (or really 60's LP with the slim neck) without paying crazy money for an R9 so the older classic models are a good fit for people with that mindset. It's the only LP I've had where I have stopped wondering what a "proper" Les Paul would be like.
Nice demo... I mean, having your twin support you with comments and requests and also thumbs up must be a great comfort to you. 😮
I have a 2016 LP Classic…. Didnt like the push/pull knobs and the 61 Buckers…. Replaced with a normal Gibby pcb board and a set of Duncan Saturday Night Special…
My 2021 Gibson Les Paul Classic Plus "limited edition" is the best of both worlds. It has 50s wiring with 60s neck and pickups. 9 hole weight relief and aged satin nitro sunburst. Light flame top too.
Good choice! I bet it's inspiring to play, which is such a big reason to own a Les Paul. Congrats on the guitar!
My 2021 classic limited edition has standard pots and wiring instead of coil splitters. It still has 60s neck and pickups, 9 hole relief, and grovers...so its best of both worlds for me.
I've owned Standards, Customs, Studios, and a couple classics. I mean. I get what he's saying. You can't argue it. The standard and custom have that unmistakable les paul sound. However. It's so close. Especially if you are running an equal of any sort. Then I can't even tell. And when you gig, that coil tapping is awesome. I don't think you would be wrong going either way.
I own a 2014 Studio with the push/pull Coil splits. And I really like the versatility, especially because it's my only guitar atm. I'm not sure if I'd use the funcions nearly as much if I would own multiple instruments but overall I'm very pleased withh the option to get a more straty sound for clean parts when wanted to :)
I got an 04’ Classic and I absolutely love that guitar…. I’ve owned a 76’ Custom,99 Standard and have played numerous Gibsons ect. The Classic is by far my favorite.. Mine doesn’t have push/pull pots or weight relief.. I believe the Classic came out in either 96’ or 99’ I can’t remember but I do know that intial decade run of the Classic was the closest Gibson was in recreating it’s 59-60 Unicorns… in fact I’m sure the custom shop or Murphy lab was in the helm in the first few years… Anyhow she was born Ebony and I had her completely refinished Silverburst and had everything replaced and giving her parts and 498’s to a 1980 Aria pro II Standard that is another monster… Don’t sleep on the vintage Japanese guitars… they’re killer and still to be found at a decent price.
This video format is awesome. Please keep making these, you've got tons of charisma!
You’re too kind. Thank you. Working on new videos as we speak!
Great video! "That sounds like a strat!" hahaha 🤣
Broooo. Love the concept and execution. Play on!
I love my Classics they're keepers ❤
I bought this guitar 2 years ago (2021) and it has become my #1 gigging Les Paul albeit with a couple of mods. The stock pickups were not at all to my liking. I find the 61 series pickups to be muddy and lack note definition, i.e. terrible and I knew that going in. So, I changed the pickups to my good old favorite Dimarzio Super Distortions and had my tech remove the circuit board (which I call a tone sucker) and rewire the guitar with CTS pots, bumblebee caps and treble bleeds on both pickups WITHOUT the push/pull coil taps, phase or bypass which I never use on a Les Paul. I am old school and have other guitars for single coil tones. I wanted a ""Classic"" in the truest '70's sense of the word and now this guitar screams Classic! I also top wind the strings to reduce the break angle and use Ernie Ball Regular RPS (Reinforced Plain String) 10-46 strings for much, much better tuning stability. Of course I've kept the original electronics in a box and they're put away for safekeeping. This is a great guitar and I love the neck profile. Even with the weight relief my guitar weighs in at a whopping 9lbs 10oz!
It’s important people know this only ally’s to particular years. My 2017 classic has no push pull and just classic 57’s.
Yes, that's right. Will make this more clear in future videos.
I have the Gibson LP Classic. However, I do like the different sound of the Standard. I can't afford to buy a standard now, so I'm going to buy an epiphone LP custom. It's a fraction of the cost of the Gibson with 95 percent of the sound.
Hey thanks for watching! On the topic of an Epiphone, just make sure you find one with good fret work. It's a bit of a hit or miss with the neck, but when you find the right one, it's true value for money.
@@loudmikedxbTrue. Even though I just bought the Gibson Classic, my go to guitar is my Epi Slash goldtop Les Paul. It is by far the nicest Les Paul I have ever played.
i love my classic and i like the tone options when im working in the studio more options faster
I bought myself a 1960 lp classic in 92 and still have it.
Love the video! Answers all the Standard v Classic comparision questions. The out of phase option is pretty cool. Now you dont need to buy the "Greenie".
Thanks for posting!
Thank you for your kind words! Agree. The 2022 Classic was in fact a lovely product. I sometimes regret letting go of mine.
I bought a new Standard in 2019, and then a Classic (in ebony) in 2020. The Classic was a new factory 2nd (small buffing issue). I fixed the buffing issue in less than 10 minutes and got it for $1500-1600! Iove them both, but I would probably keep the Classic if I HAD to give up one. It feels identical but sounds ever so slightly livelier and the Standard 'might' sound a little thicker, but they're a hair within each other - even in weight (don't feel ANY weight relief on the Classic. Love the uncovered zebra Burstbuckers - especially with ebony. Both fantastic Les Pauls.
The coil split does its own thing. It has nothing to do with trying to sound like a Strat - and it could never get close anyway. Love splitting the neck pickup and rolling back the volume for a great rhythm tone, and then flipping to the bridge wide open, or close, for a solo or for chunk.
I have Lemonburst AAA Les Paul Standard, and the same Les Paul Classic you have there. I love them equally the same, and there are many differences between the two, but yet the same. My Standard plays killer, and sounds friggin amazing. Best sounding guitar I have. My classic plays a little better then my Standard, but does not sound quite as good as my Lemonburst. My guitars weigh roughly the same, 10 pounds. But the weight relief one, the classic, feels different then the non weight relief, even though same weight. I could go on for days,
Sounds like you found the right two LPs to own! Congrats and hope they get even better with age. Thanks for watching and dont forget to support the channel by subscribing!
I enjoy the classics but I'm a traditional man. Just picked up my 3rd traditional a couple weeks ago
lovely vid bro!
Great video .People need to know the current classic is not the same as the pre 2019 classic . Totally different guitars.
Yea my 2005 classic doesn't have push pull knobs .
That’s a great guitar. I have a seafoam 2017 and it just feel so good in my hands. I love the neck.
Well thanks for the explaination!
Indeed I prefer the "old" LP sound....
BUT: playability is a VerY big thing for me .
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Are you going to compare the "old" LP with the LP-modern with carved out neckjoint for enhanced playability?
I got a LP Classic in 2020. I love it. What is neat about this configuration is that its pretty much the same at Jimmy Page's Les Paul. I bet if everyone led with that fact, fanboys would be creaming over this guitar instead of putting down its push pull options.
People are so vocal in putting stuff down because of modern narcissism. If you don't like push/pulls... the alternative is extremely SIMPLE: don't use them.
I ll be looking forward to that video from you.
I have a '99 Classic 1960 RI, it has the 496R/500T pickups and aged inlays, and Kluson tuners, no push pull knobs, yours looks a bit different with grover tuners and does not have the 1960 stamp on the pick guard. Mine sounds great and is light with a honey burst finish.
Hello! The constant change of hardware features and pickup configuration over the years makes it hard to even classify what makes a Classic and what makes a Standard when seen on a time scale longer than three years, I think. How much does yours weigh?
9 pounds, 5 ounces.@@loudmikedxb
I have Custom and Standard Les Pauls and a Modern SG, I like the modern the most, the out-of-phase with a lot of gain on your amp makes a great tone. The Custom is very fancy, I play it the least because it is the most expensive and a heavy beast. I plan on upgrading all my guitars to push-pulls, so many extra tones available, it is a no-brainer once you own one.
Glad to see a positive comment about the push-pull knobs! Me personally, the 50s Standard is doing the job quite well. I had a Custom a few years back and for some strange reason, the bridge pickup was just too soft. It’s sometimes frustrating to deal with Gibson’s inconsistencies. But man, when you find the right one… it’s THE one.
Before I watch this, I must say in all honesty- the absolute best Les Paul I've ever played is the 2022 Classic 60s style in Heritage Cherry. Push pull pots etc
I own and have owned-
2011 Les Paul Standard 60s Gold Top
2022 Les Paul Standard 50s Honey Burst
Les Paul Custom Cherry Burst 3 DiMarzio Humbuckers
1987 Les Paul Studio Back w Gold
2007 Les Paul Studio White w Gold
Les Paul Special Faded - TV Yellow
I would highly recommend every one of them. However, there is something about this Classic that is more perfect than the others. The neck, the tones, the versatility, the feel, the look, the weight. Everything is just right.
So, I'm here to say- if you're thinking about one of these Classics, I strongly recommend you go for it!
Very well done. I like the energy, made me smile.
Thank you for the kind words. Really encouraging. Pls subscribe to support the channel. So many interesting topics coming your way soon!
Before you buy a custom or even a standard with a friend we got a tribute and a classic for the money one to beat one to love and a little SG with some hot Lyndy Fralins and three that's all you need for the price of one with money left over for a kick ass amp
I have a classic in translucent cherry. I was planning to buy a standard or modern but after playing the classic didn't think it was worth buying the standard or modern. Maybe because the tone on all is great and I didn't think there was a tangible difference. For my playing style I prefer the brightness and clarity of the 61 pickups. And I much prefer the translucent cherry finish over the flame tops you get on the standards for $300 more... unless you want to spend the big bucks for a more unique flame color versus the old standard boring tobacco, cherry burst, etc that you get in the cheaper standard models. But that's just preference. The coil tapping on the classic is worthless. Gibson needs to take notes from PRS on coil tapping because all three of my PRS guitars coil tapping is significantly better. I really don't think any of the three Gibsons you mentioned standard, classic, or modern sound any better than the other, just slightly different depending on the pickups and some other minor things. I'd really take any of them. Even the three studios I've owned sounded almost the same really.. especially in overdrive. A lot of this comes down to good marketing and more bling... though each will sound slightly different. I only sold my studios and bought a classic because I only paid $180 more used with a hard case... but other than the extra bling and brighter pickups on the classic I don't really notice much difference...both are quite good...
Couldn't agree with you more. It's true that Gibson sometimes feels like they're trying to overly maximize returns on the Les Paul brand by offering options that tend to extend upwards in the budget range. It's something you see a lot in luxury brands - one base model, but numerous variations. I personally would love it if Gibson now takes risks and try to create a truly new guitar built for this era, targeting young guitar players through a new set of tones and a down to earth price.
@@loudmikedxb exactly! It's funny how people buy into what these companies try to convince them of so easily. And for some very subtle difference they will change sometimes double or triple the price...such a just adding binding will cost about $800 more...or a prettier flame top...$700 more...or custom shop which adds some very slight difference in something like capacitors which is a really cheap upgrade will cost double, etc. It's more about ego than actual real sound. But I can't say I haven't become victim to that either since I own thousands of dollars worth of high end guitars. I just love guitars and have money to burn... but I certainly could get killer tone, feel, and playability out of some fairly inexpensive guitars these days. They may not look as pretty as my $4k plus beautiful PRS core custom 24 with exotic flame top but at the end of the day all that bling doesn't make the guitar sound better... but it does look damn cool and surely can impress people and make me feel like the man when my friends see it lol.
Thanks for highlighting the modern reality of being able to get great tone, feel, and playability from less expensive builds...🙌
@@bushcry1 no problem. My cousin collects guitars too and just sold his Gibson classic Les Paul classic and bought another studio and loves it. Check out guitarists on RUclips... the English dude had every Les Paul under the sun and sold his custom shop because even though it was a trophy art beautiful to own it didn't sound or feel any better than many of his cheaper ones... but if you have money to burn it's fun to own all of them just for their slight variation and beauty
@thadlogan51 i think it's the other way around. Gibson (and any brand) releases something, then people start shouting that they want this or that...... so Gibson sees a "market" for it and releases something with it. But then the other people start shouting about them adding it...
People just like to complain and moan: if you don't like coil taps... just don't use them. You can absolutely have a guitar with coil taps and never use them and be perfectly fine.
If you don't like all the details and extras in the $8k fancy guitars... don't get them. Get the stripped down Studio or Tribute. Those have pretty much all the sound, and none of the bling. But if you like bling... there ya go, get a Custom with all the bindings and gold hardware.
this classic sounds very muddy!! i played a 2006 classic yesterday here in nyc and it was much clearer! in the comparison you. made the standard was much better...great video...and yoir friend is funny! SUBSCRIBED
Just go get a new set of ears! I own a standard 60s and a classic. The Les Paul Classic can be anything but MUDDY! These kinda disgraceful words can never ever suit any guitar that reaches this price range, they are all somewhere on the top range of mass-produced guitars, not some random 200 bucks budget junk that can be called "muddy" sounding!
i would get the classic LP in cherry sunburst . Man i had about 5 les pauls i have one left a 1979 tobacco sunburst custom
I have both the Standard 60's and Classic and they feel nearly the same. Especially now that I put my preferred 496R/500T pickups in them.
500 is beefy pickup!
@@antilaw9911 Yeah I like the thick midrange it pumps out. My BB61's seemed to lack in this area.
As an owner of 10 LP'S...Thanks alot, now I'm buying a classic for my collection!😁😁
Where can we buy gibson in Singapore?
Hi! I think there’s a Swee Lee store in Singapore. They would definitely have Gibsons. Thanks for watching!
@@loudmikedxbSwee Lee Singapore no longer sell gibson guitar, no updates
The prince verse made me hit the subscribe button 😂. Great vid man.
mission accomplished!
Forget American history. This is the type of history that should be taught in schools all across America. 🎸
The limited edition Chicago Blue Les Paul Classic is selling at a local guitar center and its on sale but im a poor person and it makes me sad. I want this guitar so bad lol
That's a bummer! But if your cash situation won't allow it, it's ok. Let it go. Nothing worse than getting something you love only to constantly think you're gonna have to sell it for cash later. Sometimes, the right guitar is when the price is right and the time is right. Speaking from experience.
"Only morer" 🤣🤣🤣 great walk-through. Really helped me make my mind up. Thanks @loudmikedxb
Thanks for watching! Hope you get a good one!
Ive got the epiphone classic .. what a awesome guitar
I just got a Gibson Classic today, so ill see, but my go to guitar is my Epi Slash goldtop. It is by far the best Les PaulIhave ever played of any brand.
My first Gibson was a classic, I didn't like it, not what i thought it was. I had an epiphone classic that i customized, I liked the sound of that one better. So I traded my Gibson classic and got the 50's standard, it lived up to the hype. A better quality build and a sweeter, smoother sound.
Oh yeah.
I got one these LP Classic in trade yesterday. I'm not a fan. Going to be selling asap for cheap. I've come to the recent conclusion if you want the real original legendary Gibson LP sound then you have to go Custom Shop.
I love the Customs Shops. The only problem for us here is the shipping - something happens to these guitars in transit and they arrive with random issues. Could be neck warping or strange intonation. Ive tried two different Custom Shops in the last year here in Dubai and were disappointed with the quality.
I view it as binding. If it has binding it is the higher end models. No binding are about 1600 and lower. I think these classics are a good deal. For abit more than a studio you get one that just looks nicer. The studios just have a cheaper look to them
It’s seems to me that classics are basically standards with the coil tap and a slim taper neck profile. If you took a modern classic and swooped the PCB board and replaced with 50s wiring, then you pretty much have a standard. I have older classic (1990 and 2005) and more recent standards and a custom shop. The classic play every bit as good of the others, especially if you change pickups and add 50s wiring on the more recent classics.
@@slashtrio not gonna lie. In some cases, some Classics play better than some Standards. Gibson guitars arent completely consistent, even today.
@ yea I know this all too well. I have been lucky with standards and currently have 2 (2021 and 2022) and both play great. My two classics play just as well but just different because the necks are a lot slimmer. I even have a R9 Murphy lab and I have to say it’s not ever my favorite out of the bunch which is sad. I always mod guitars so things like pick ups are not a big deal to me, easy enough to change them out for something different. Cheers
I stopped looking at Les Paul's when I got my 2021 classic ebony. I do have a 2013 limited run studio too..
7:27 it isn't a strat sound, it is an emulation of P90 pickups, that is the option that makes this model "CLASSIC".
Does the standard have a wider fretbpard than the classic? Meaning the string spacing, or are they the same?
Hey there. Not sure about the technical spec, but they felt the same to me.
It's the same
Got a question: what's the main differences between a Gibson Les Paul classic and a Gibson Les Paul traditional pro iv? btw love what your doing man keep up the great work 👍
Hello there! Your question actually got me doing some research. Unfortunately, the Trad Pro line is a US exclusive so it's hard for me to get my hands on one. But from what I can tell, it's quite similar to the current Classic except it has a unique set of humbuckers not found on the regular Classics. There are some spec differences as well but I would have to do a proper episode to go over them. Now if only I can get one to review.
I own the Epiphone Les Paul Classic and I have had it for a few months now. Pros are the quality is very spot on and I enjoy the feel of the body and the frets. It has also stayed in tune and intonated since I purchased it. The only con I have is the pickups installed. They sound alright through a clean and crunch channel but with distortion it doesn't sound very hot.
I think if you put in some Seymour Duncan's they would sound a lot more better.
Conclusion if you are in to modern versatile guitars but like the vintage look and feel then this guitar is for you. If you want more closer specs to a original Les Paul then I recommend looking at some standard models like the 59 or 60's models.
I plan on adding lock in tuners, strap locks and replacing the pickups to have Seymour Duncan's 59's. Overall great guitar!
as a US Fender Strat owner AND a Gibson LP Classic owner... my Classic does NOT sound anything like my Strat. I have no idea how you think it sounds anything close.
Nice vid on the various tonal possibilities with the classic. I just got one (same color too) especially after Gibson announced a price drop by $300 USD at the end of July. I don't play in a band so having it in humbucker or single coil mode is an easy switch for me. Thanks for posting!
The finishes available for the Classic models are more appealing in my opinion. hardware and electronics you can always upgrade.
1st time here, and thoroughly enjoyed the comparison and the alter ego comment s, add s a nice touch to the video which also ask and answer s questions that are on my mind. I recently purchased my first Gibson LP, the Studio Plus with the 490 T and 498 R. I always get the letters mixed up so I may have them wrong? But nevertheless absolutely love the tone they produce. There's just such a depth and warmth and fullness to the sound of The Studio. Very balanced and the finish of the AA Flame top is something a blind man would luv2C. Tho I wanted to round out my guitar collection with other types or sounds, IE Strat or Tele or Firebird, i have a feeling that one day I'll end up with more than 1 LP. 60s Standard in Smokehouse burst really catches my eye . Keep up the informative reactions, looking 4ward2 more from you.
Congrats on the Studio Plus! I tried one at my local guitar store here and it's very cool. Will try to make a video about it soon.
Great video. Definitely makes it confusing seeing how Gibson changed the Classic like every 10 years or so, and how the first generation Classics are almost like a reissue in a way.
And to make it confusing again, for some time Gibson had their Traditional line too… which if I remember correctly might be considered what the Standards are now?
Thanks for your comment! Yes that’s right. The trads are essentially the 50s standards now. For how long, hard to tell.
I like my old 92 gold top classic
I guess in single coil mode they should sound close to some P90s o P100s... At least for me does not sound strat at all.
Can somebody explain the $600 price difference??
I have a 2013 Traditional and a 2020 Classic. Both sounds almost equal. Subtle differences between the 57 and 61 pickuos, and the classic has a better finish and confortable 60s neck. Why paying more dor something equal or even worst ?
Ive heard good things about the Traditional. I believe today’s 50s Standard is the evolution of that model, and I love mine. Love the neck profile. As for the Classic, completely agree with you. It’s the most reliable workhorse of the LPs in today’s range.
Have a custom which is the first when I gravitate to you every time also have a standard Adam Jones which I enjoy but don’t like the next so I have a hard time connecting and I got rid of my 2001 studio which I loved but didn’t have the aesthetics that I like also have a 2003 American standard fender teli may have to get rid of it just can’t connect to it plays nice but just just don’t like
Why are some weight relieved and some not? I see one for sale, a Classic 2022 and the store says it is not weight relieved. So who’s telling the truth?
It seems to me that those who describe the classic as a "lesser" les paul are comparing it based solely on monetary differences. 🙄
Older les Paul classics (1990-2008) are the best ones. I own one from 2000
I also have a 2000 Classic. Only change I made was throwing a couple '57 pups in it. It is am amazing Les Paul for sure. My 2010 Classic I will leave as is.
A lot of classics have played and sounded better than the standards
Just picked up a classic today after being impressed by its sound
Good choice! That weight relief is a bonus too.
Correct in everything you say.
All those extra electronics and still hundreds of dollars cheaper?
Gibson know that buying a Gibson is more an emotional than a rational choice. (I bought the 50s Standard!)
Yes, and they also know that their target can afford the higher price on the Standard. (And yes, I also ended up getting a 50s model). I saw an interesting video from Rhett Shull saying that new young guitar players are simply staying away from Gibson due to price, and that's why Gibson's future might be in question. But I guess for now, us Gibson aficionados will just keep the company going at least for a few more decades.
I wanna Modern gold top.
I really like these classics but that $300 price increase has been hard to swallow. I believe of all the Gibson USA guitars the classic has had the biggest price increase. I think Gibson caught on to how good value these were and raised the price more. The classic is as good as the standard, it just depends on if you want a modern or more traditional set of specs, both great. It does seem weird the “classic” is in the modern collection but Gibson was never very good with their naming lol.
True dat. Their naming system is quite confusing, and I only started to understand it when I sat down and researched the history. I personally think the Classic is the most ideal LP for general use. That weight relief alone makes the guitar easier to bring anywhere and play.
Buy an older classic from the early 2000’s instead, best bang for buck out there.
@@Burtronic *Buy* not ‘by’ 🐁👍
Thank you for the Gibson advice!
@@laurajane4541 🫡
I absolutely love my honeyburst 2022 les paul classic and my favourite thing about it is probably the plain maple top on it as just nice wood grain is very underrated these days! Great video!
LP Classic? 😍👍
The differences are superfluous at best. Gibsons problem is they don’t really have a “jumbo fret” contemporary rock guitar in their range. Personally I’d redo the classic with 6100 fretwire and hot ceramic pickups. Turn it into a rock machine. But for some reason Gibson won’t do proper big frets on anything they make. Which is pitiful as their competitors all do.
If i hear what you're saying, you're suggesting to turn the Classic into a more distinctly different guitar with the intention of making it a hotter sounding guitar. I completely agree. Might as well branch out and give people a sensible variation - and price it even lower, if possible.
I’d do solid colour tops. Red, Black, Goldtop. Perhaps do a thinner finish on the backs and necks Ala the Les Paul Satins?
@@jezzer1969 Gibson! Hear this man!
Gibsons "marketing" reminds me of the star wars " marketing" They chop and change the story line to extract every dollar and they are just reinventing the wheel.
1st of all, all guitars made by a given brand are NOT equal. The high end vs basic entry model are radically different. Now, if you are a novice, you probably won't benefit from a high end model and if you are an experienced player, the basic model probably won't be all that satisfying. This may be difficult for some people to accept but it's more than cosmetic. You can't just throw some new pick ups, tuners and a bridge into the basic model and expect to have the same thing as the top of the line model.
I've had both, I've tried the upgrade path and I can tell you this. If you try to upgrade a guitar into being a better guitar you will be seriously disappointed and waste an awful lot of money. Now, trying out new pick ups, tuners, etc to see how they are on your guitar, that makes sense but it will still be the same instruments you started with. You can roll a turd in glitter and tie a bow in it but at the end of the day, it's still a turd.
So, once you arrive at a place where you need a better instrument, then getting a better instrument will help and by then you will probably know what works for you. It's not simply the price tag and that's where the problem begins. People associate price with things without necessarily understanding the what and why of things. Buying an expensive guitar won't make you better. The instrument is an extension of you, you are not an extension of the instrument. So, a great instrument will help a great musician sound great. A port musician will still be a poor musician no matter what instruments they play.
So, is the basic model good or bad? Neither! It has a job, it is a tool, that is all. Depending on what you need it for, it may be suitable or not. If you are a beginner, it will be fine. You are learning and perhaps starting to perform. So, perfect for that job. It doesn't need to be precious for that. But if you are a professional that is trying to make a living, you probably need something better to do your job. It's a tool, they are all just tools. If you are recording or playing large venues, your livelihood depends on your equipment and having something reliable that does it's job is a must.
So, simply asking is any guitar a good choice is a nice primer but the question lacks context. It depends on who you are addressing and what their needs are. Not wants, but needs.
So, who likely needs the basic model and who needs the expensive model? Once you understand that, the price has context, the user has context and the instruments have context. They are simply tools.
Agree with you. I think the interesting thing about guitars is that different people get different things out of it. And sometimes just the storytelling behind a brand can inspire the musician - who probably sounds just as great on a different guitar. It just depends on the psychology of the player. I played with a guy who absolutely hated expensive brands so stuck with affordable but well chosen knockoffs, but my God, he was good. And on the other hand, also played with people who are very picky about their brand and sound amazing when paired with their guitar of choice. But for sure, when starting out, I believe everyone should focus more on getting their chops right on a practical guitar instead of focusing on the gearhead aspect of being a guitarist. Thanks for watching and for writing your comment!
Hi there. Not sure I agree 100% with yr comments about "Buying an expensive guitar won't make you better". I learnt to play guitar 40 years ago as a young teenager, playing a crappy acoustic guitar (which i now have as a museum piece). I never realy enjoyed playing this guitar and so playing guitar became a hobby i would pickup maybe once a year, and never made any improvement. Since COVID lockdown I bought a nice Tommy Emmanuel acoustic and a Les Paul Studio. Both these guitars are fun to play and sound great. This encouraged me to play more and guitar became fun again and i think i sound pretty good now. Better guitar made an imediate improvement for me. Out of the standard or classic LP, think I prefer the looks of the Classic, but would love both.
@@paulcox6566 Absolutely agree! I think we have to clarify that there is a marginal return on investment when it comes to upgrading your instrument - but that return varies depending on the musicians. For some, an upgrade of a thousand dollars makes a whole lot of difference, and for some it may not. Also, it's important to note that having a great instrument that you like playing also makes you WANT to play more, and hence make you practice more. Which of course, leads to progress in your skill.
@@paulcox6566im playing on a squier strat with a pretty bad amp and i want to upgrade to at least a good amp or like a marshall stack and either a lp or fender strat.
there's only morer pauls 😆 darn right!
We have to stop pretending that a coil tapped humbucker sounds like a single coil.
True. The guys at Gibson call it a P90 sound. Which isn’t quite right either. In any case, thanks for watching and please subscribe to support the channel!
Take a Seymour Duncan Hot Rails and try the coil split. It's so close on my strats that it's negligible. For meny it'd not about copying a single coil sound. It's just different. And in the mix of a live band will fool 90% of the people
A coil tapped humbucker will never sound like a single coil. But a coilsplit humbucker will! There is a difference.
It wont sound like a single coil on a strat because the scale of the guitar is different, it sounds like a single coil on a Les Paul, which has its own uniqueness and charm. I agree with video, if you want a strat get a strat, but, that said, its nice having a les paul with more sonic capability than previous models.
The only issue is aesthetics. Classics have no flametop so their burst doesn’t hit like a standard
True. But that ebony Classic has a killer look in my books.
If it’s weight reliefed, it’s not a les paul. Fight me.
Maybe on average the Classic is lighter, but mine is like a boat anchor.
@@801guitar3 which year is it?
@@loudmikedxb Mine is a 2022. It's 9.2 lbs. I guess there are some that are heavier and lighter, but for having weight relief, it seems heavy.
@@801guitar3 I had one that had that weight, it was still lighter than the standard I bought around the same time. I remember telling the guy at the store how heavy the classic still felt, and he was like "give it time, the wood will dry and it will get lighter." I asked how long I had to wait. He said "50 years". Lol.
@@loudmikedxb Yeah, I have a non-weight-relieved Standard right at 9 lbs. I guess it's just the density of the wood mixed with the slightest percentage of moisture in it.
Something to think about... the Les Paul standard had almost the exact same specs in 2019 as the classic has today such as coil tappin, weight relief, etc ... minus flame top and locking tuners...in other words the 2020 or newer classic is the 2019 standard. People today buying a standard over a classic are just wasting money for the name or a flame top. It's been proven that weight relief doesn't effect the tone whatever... just watch Darrell Brauns video on RUclips on this. Here's a video on the 2019 standard showing it's for all the same specs as the classic pretty much...
ruclips.net/video/1huvvsFt3go/видео.htmlfeature=shared
“There’s no lesser Les Pauls, only morer” Hilarious!
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I cant afford gibson. I'll go for epiphone inspired classic 😁👌
The 2011 Classic has a baked maple fingerboard, so be careful！
My classic weighs more than my standard. 🤔
I have a classic. As well as a few others. I pulled all that nonsense out and put proper covered Burstbuckers in there. Now it’s a real LP. That push pull wasn’t fooling anyone.
I've had some people telling me they actually like that feature. Me personally, I like a guitar that does only a few things but does those things very well. Especially in a live setting.
But then, where does the Traditional fit in?
I would say it has the pretty significant role of being the entry level LP. The gateway guitar! Thanks for watching and pls make sure to subscribe so u can be informed when the next episode is on air.
@@loudmikedxb that's a tribute you're referring to. My traditional cost $150..00
more than my classic. My classic was $1900.00 in 2020. My traditional was
2050.00 in 2018. My traditional was alot like a very heavy standard. No weight relief at all.
Solid sounding guitar.
@@timtim-it3me sorry, my bad. Yes it does get tricky with the Traditional. We don’t have that in this part of the world, is it in stock where you are? Would love to try those pickups on a heavier body and hear what they’re like. Is it as heavy as a Custom?
@LOUDMIKEDXB I've never picked up a custom. My Traditional pro is stock. Very nice guitars if you have the back for it.
The classic is lighter because it has weight relief.
Im getting a 2019 classic next week and Im just gutting it and tossing all that bullshit on ebay.
Before you gut it, record the guitar (especially bridge pickup) and see if there's a difference afterwards. The wiring might be responsible for that "hotter sound". Quite curious actually. Thanks for watching. And please subscribe to support the channel!
No no NO! Classics *ARE NOT* "lighter" than Standards. A cursory look on any Gibson dealer site will reveal that BOTH range hugely between around 8lbs to well over 10lbs. The Classic has a few small holes which shaves less than 5% off the body blank's weight, but that means nothing when the weight of the wood varies massively.
I’ve owned two classics and both the 50s and 60s standard (post 2022 models). The classics are all lighter. Even the ones Ive tried at the store.
These kinds of RUclips guitar players are such gear snobs. Have you noticed, they always say the more expensive guitar sounds better. Always some BS about the more expensive guitar sounding a little big better. What nonsense. I have a Classic and I tried the Standard before I bought it. The Classic has ALL the sounds of the Standard and the split-coil, and the out of phase, and the direct to bridge. Any slight difference in favor of either guitar can be achieved by tweaking the tone controls on either your guitar or amp. So, if you can get the same sounds BUY THE MORE VERSATILE GUITAR, the Classic. The Classic is objectively better because SAME TONE (most important), less expensive, and more versatile. Now if you're buying for looks, yeah get the standard and the flame maple top. But if you're buying for playability and tone, get the Classic. I forgot to mention the nicer 61-slim taper neck.
Interestingly, I do agree with you. I use the Classic for a lot of recording and gigging. And as value for money, it’s a great package. As a buyer, I would choose the Standard if the extra cost is not an issue and you prefer a simple old school Les Paul. And if you’re ok with the extra weight.
So the Classic is basically a cheap(er) way to get a Jimmy Page model........ :)
The Classic would be superior and the better value for your money. It does have have more features, even if you don't us them. Originally, the Classic was the more expensive model when it was introduced. In my opinion, the Standard is now more expensive based upon demand and sales. With more and more people gravitating towards the Standard in recent years (for whatever reasons), that is driving up the price. The "Modern" series is far superior to even both of them and the same price as a Standard but, the latest trend is to think older specs is better and anything "modern" is just not being welcomed.
I DON'T CARE whar Classic means... just show us what the guitar can do...
"promo sm"