I think the name is fine. In the Army, we had a “canteen cup”. It’s just a cup/pot that can fit a canteen inside. The naming is consistent, not confusing.
Sometimes I feel like he likes to go off on tangents or likes to nitpick depending upon the manufacturer. I have never once seen him be hyper critical on Fjallraven products even when they’re clearly garbage. I’ve seen him be fair with their products, but not nitpicky. The Fjallraven Wind Sack review comes to mind. He quite literally gave the thing three chances and it failed all three times. If this was a different manufacturer (Coleman or Kelty), after the first fail he would’ve stopped.
Someone with a military background may understand that, but others may not. He said there a lot of Amazon reviews from people who were confused by the naming, so it's a fair criticism.
In case you are living on this Planet, but not in the US Metric Weight Units: Total Kit : 8.2oz = 232g 600ml Pot : 3.6oz = 102g 300ml Cup : 2.2oz = 62g Lid : 1.0oz = 28g Pot hang and storage bag : 1.1oz = 31g For the US guys, 300ml are 10 liquid ounzes
Oh my gosh, you made my day when you corrected your grammar to "...there ARE no vents..."! Correct grammar and spelling were drilled into me from elementary school to grad school, and it drives me CRAZY when presenters (including newscasters!) use incorrect grammar. So, well done, you. Also, thank you for your review. :)
The name and the shape make perfect sense to me since it is designed so that you can nest a army canteen inside it (the kidney shape ones). And that's exactly how i use mine (the lid goes on the bottom and its a perfect fit).
@@kurtrussell5228 Depends on the carrier. if your original cup is narrower on the bottom, and you have the snug fit type of a carrier, then it's a struggle and the lid will not fit on the bottom. i use MFH Mole Utility pouch and it fits the canteen set with a MFH canine nested with no problem (even has space to put a small wood oven in it).
Canteen mess kit is exactly what it is. The mess kit that fits a canteen. Also there are two definitions of Canteen, one of which is a military camp restaurant.
I like that you correct your grammar. I always contend that if you broadcast you have an obligation to use proper English, as many people watch whose first language is not English and they're trying to learn and can use your language as a guide through their learning. Keep up the good work.
I will 2nd what everyone is saying about the name. I don't find anything confusing about it. The name is accurate in my opinion. You can put the kit in a military canteen cover/pouch and place a military canteen inside to carry or transport. As to the shape, it's shaped like that so it contours to the body when worn typically in the kidney area on a duty belt.
good to hear it will fit into a usgi canteen holder with a usgi 1 qt canteen in it. as a cup and put is great. vet holes are so easy to do. two or three on each end. and maybe a very thin cloth between each item to stop any rattles?
I appreciate that you actually use a product before you give a review. It's impossible for 1 person to do this for every product. I feel like I should be paying you for doing this. The time savings and money savings alone is worth its weight in salt. Thank you and stay special interest free!!!!!
Canteen (n): a restaurant provided by an organization such as a military camp, college, factory, or company for its soldiers, students, staff, etc. In that sense, this is exactly what this mess kit represents: a mess kit you could use for food service and consumption from the unit/company/school canteen. As others have mentioned, it also fits the shape of some (perhaps older) canteens (as in Canteen (n) 2: a small water bottle, as used by soldiers or campers) that are (or were) issued to soldiers in the US Army and other organizations. It looks as though if you put the lid at the bottom, you could fit this kit inside the old LBE hip canteen cover, and fit the 1L canteen inside it. Name seems perfectly reasonable to me.
I guess a lot of people like titanium but honestly I prefer my BCB crusader kit. For the same price as your, you get a canteen cup, a canteen, a plastic cup, a stove and a camo carry bag and it all nestles together. Whereas this one states it cant all nestle together when you buy the bigger kit eg. The canteen flask and the two cups with no stove!
Nothing wrong with a stainless steel set so long as you don’t mind the bit of extra weight. I also have a Solo Stove with pot that is stainless. I did swap out the lid for a titanium one to save a bit of weight, but it is great otherwise.
I have the set with a Nalgene canteen for the last 2 years. Yes GI style canteen fits in it. It is a great set for camping and is rather sturdy. I almost lost a handle when washing in a large bin at a gathering with lots of people. The two cups make it a great set although I wish it came with two lids. I recommend it with a GI style canteen.
Glad that you had the balls, and intelligence, to make that clear. Luke has pissed me off on several occasions with his blatant ignorance. Thank you for your recommendation !!!
I also ha have kit with a Nalgene canteen and I love it .but I had to shop around and find an extra component that fit the base making it all together four peace set not including the lid. The component is a wood or hidroxan stove bottom and it all works together nicely . S and H ...CHEERS....
I have a Boundless Voyage titanium 750ml round pot with lid for boiling water for dehydrated meals/coffee. Nested inside I have a SnowPeak brand green anodized 450ml titanium cup. Nested inside that I have an MSR pocket rocket 2. Works brilliant for all my needs.
Great review. I. Have been buying this brand for several years. I started out with the canteen and pot system. Then I bought the system you tested. It balances the pack. Then came the coffee pot. Now, I have one complete system for each of my packs. I don't like having to move items around pack to pack. Also I've gotten used to the size servings and pack meals pre measured. Clean easy. I drilled small holes at one end of the lid as a strainer system. I am outfitting 5 more packs with this same system for family. I trust these items. Stay safe, stay strong.
Canteen is the correct term for this product. Canteen is not just a single utensil or container. Defined -"a restaurant provided by an organization such as a military camp, college, factory, or company for its soldiers, students, staff, etc." So canteen kit is accurate. But still as always, great vid and info!
Several months ago I got the "full" version (1100 ml canteen + 750 ml pot + 400 ml cup + ventilated lid + hanging cable) for about 30 EUR from a kind of discount store (I'm pretty sure it was imported from Amazon for whatever reasons) Brand new! All packed in a nice backpack where you can put the other cooking items. I used it twice, very pleased with it!
The canteen cup cookset is the way to go. The two cups, the lid, the cable, and... wait for it... a 1100ml canteen. Fits well in the Helikon-tex Essentials pouch.
About the name, I understand where everyone is coming from. However, at 68 I grew up with a canteen mess kit just about like this and have looked for years to one similar to it. I had a WWII canteen and under it was a mess kit just like that. It had a fold out handle and it all fit in the canteen pouch I wore on my military belt. So yes it is a canteen mess kit by all means. The canteen was and is a separate item. Two items, canteen, canteen mess kit. Also a wood stove kit is available as well. Add the three together and stack them high as you can.
It would've been nice to see how the hanging part works. I feel like it would be hard to keep level, especially with the shorter pot. But maybe thats why it's shaped that way.
Wow, I actually have that kit for years now. Kinda at least. I bought the canteen set and it actually came with a titanium canteen in addition to what you have. I really like that kit and I also use the canteen when I go to the gym for example. Although I'm always hesitant to bring fuel like esbit with me. Since you stack the big pot into the small, I don't want any strange resedue on the big pot when I put it on a fire. The canteen itself would be stacked into the bigger pot and it came with a canteen pouch. The lid would then be stored behind the canteen set in the pouch. Also, my lid actually has vents.
I’ve got the “valtcan” (Amazon cheapo)version of this and it is great. The “pan” part has a fold under handle rather than butterfly handle. Love it. Never used the hanging wire though.
This is an update of the German & other European Military issue mess kit.. If you shop around you can get the full set which includes a cooking systems . This system has been in use from just after WW1.
Yes, I've got some of these (I'm from Hungary). Lot european nations got these, with a bit difference each. It's a great versatile thing, but the heat loss is not so good due to its shape. But comfortable to bring in the original military "canteenbag" close to your body.
I know you said it didn't come with a canteen, however, since it is the shape of one, and is intended to be used with one, it would have been good to see you take an normal US issue canteen and show that it fits. Also, if you took a normal issue canteen cover and test that fit as well. Thanks for the review.
Lid, upside down at the bottom of the bag, USGI canteen dropped in the top, all stashed neatly in a single pouch or tucked into a ruck. Done and done. I have a similar full-round system that fits in a small slingpack for over-the-shoulder carry or ladder compatible, depending on circumstance.
I own three different canteens that fit this, so i bought this item years ago to use as a hiking cooking system. It works well, and all 3 canteens fit it well. No confusion here.
I’ve had one of these for a while. If you get one, get the larger one. I really like mine but kick myself for not getting the larger version. Works great with my alcohol stove. Usually my go to for weekend trips.
The mesh bag is for dipping the kit into wash water to remove any suds, and for fast drying. The shape is the canteen shape of the US Army Canteen, which was originally designed to fit inside. The original had army belt buckles that they dropped in the Viet Nam ear, because soldiers found they Clanked with movement.
At 73 years young, I'm not about to hike the Appilachian Trail, but I do many day to 3 day hikes. Weight is not a major concern for me, so Titaniam = Meh? I have stailess steel pot & cup, both pruchased from Walmart, but I believe available on Amazon also. The Ozark Trail cup has the same type folding handles holds 18 oz. and goes for $5.47. My pot is a Stanley, 24 oz. comes with lid, and the handle locks in place to hold the lid on. Both are round, and the pot nests into the cup. Lots of room inside, as I carry a propane mini stove, lighter, matches, flint & steel, candle, and fire starter inside mine. And the price is less than half of the Boundless Voyage. Yes, it's 2 lbs, but unless you are very concerned with weight, it works. I was a Scout Master, and used this on camp outs, hunting, and just hiking for the past 20 or more years, and have yet to wear it out.
That looks a very useful ‘Canteen Cup’ mess kit to me. I’m not confused with the name at all. Two pots is always useful, being able to eat from one whilst your coffee water is boiling up, great. Plenty of room to carry all sorts of stove gear within it too. What’s not to like? Oh and of course, it;s lightweight. I love it. Thanks.
Nice review, Luke. I like that this system is titanium and that the cup/pot nest together. Also the hanging cable is nice. According to other comments, and yours, there is a larger set that also includes/nests a kidney shaped canteen. If I were to buy this set I would get the larger one due to the included canteen and the apparent holes in the larger pot lid. (A steel/titanium canteen is great for purifying water as well as using it to keep warm in your sleeping bag). The reasons I would not get this is due to what you said regarding the shape, which as stated makes stirring coffee/tea and making something in the pot, or holding the cup to drink from, awkward. The kidney shape also prevents nesting isobutane canisters or bottles of alcohol in the pot if you are using a gas or alcohol stove. There are many other companies, Snow Peak, Rock Creek, Toaks, and others that make round titanium pots/cups for those reasons listed and are of similar quality. Some even include a hanging handle. I think buying this makes sense if you are getting the set with the canteen. Otherwise I would stick with my Toaks/Rock Creek pot/cup combo, unless you prefer something very small/compact.
I half agree with you. It is exactly what it says it is. A canteen mess kit. Not a canteen and mess kit. I will agree at first thought someone ordering this would expect a canteen to be included.
I think any of the names will work as per Webster's dictionary noun ; a · a portable chest with compartments for carrying bottles or for cooking and eating utensils ; b · a flask for carrying liquids (as on a hike) ; c · mess kit. Great episode, More adventures ahead.
I've started looking to re-build my kit for backpacking in 2024 so this was pretty useful. I think I'll stick to the round style though. I do like that you can hang this, though honestly i'm usually on an alcohol stove and not really burning anything to hang this over. Still something to think about and come up with a solution for with the round stuff. Take care
fish spreader, can use on a wide mouth water bottle, or a cup if it has two small holes drilled into it, or check out the bushcraft store billy can, or the pathfinder school stainless steel cup
I was looking at that canteen set a couple years ago. The one with the actual canteen included. But I have a stainless set from years ago. My wife wouldn't let me get it. I did get a titanium emergency whistle from boundless voyage. Appreciate the product. Thanks for your video.
Hello there! While I don’t have this particular set, I do have a another of their titanium cook sets for backpacking and I love it. I thought they were a very budget friendly alternative to the Snowpeak set I originally wanted. Stay well!
The canteen part is in reference to a military style canteen would fit in the pot/cup. The pot is almost exactly like the ones issued with our canteens in the Marine Corps, at least while I was in back in the early 2000's.
I've enjoyed TOGR for the last ten years but has anyone noticed how its gotten a little weird lately? I can't put my finger on it. Luke seems to be in his own echo chamber recently and seems to just want to go through the motions. I would like to see Luke get into some new activities. How about a guest or two? Hunting, fishing, canoeing, organic gardening, archery, bushcraft shelters, the list goes on and on.
Thank You Luke, hi Susie, for introducing and testing these thing first us love GOD BLESS and so Appreciate You Aloha Always Sister Chrissy Honolulu HI
I got Boundless Voyage's very same Canteen Kit, overall I'm very satisfied with it. If you miss the canteen, the latest generation of US-Military Canteens (like Nalgene's kidney-shaped Oasis) fit perfectly in there! I've come to make that combo of plastic Nalgene Oasis and Titanium Boundless Voyage Canteen Kit my preferred Canteen-Set because it allows carrying carbonated soda pops and cleaning the bottle in the dishwasher, while staying able to cook/fry over fire. Ironically, Boundless Voyage don't provide a fitting Titanium canteen (maybe due to copyright on the shape?) As you realized, they do however produce their own canteen in an individual shape, for which you can get another fitting shape of set, also consisting of cup and larger pot plus a MOLLE-compatible camo-pouch. I was slightly irritated by the contact points of the pot and cup becoming polished and shiny (where pot and cup rub against each other, especially when a filled flask puts load on there) so I asked them if they coat their product - they responded that they give their canteen kit a powder-coating treatment consisting of titanium-powder which is brought to stick purely by heat, so it's quite pure Titanium ware afaik. Gotta agree, the price is so intriguingly great for the quality you get! I think their product range also looks like it has many feasible designs. Definitely a brand I'll giva another try again, it holds up in comparison to Keith's Titanium Kit any day!
it is called a canteen mess kit because that is what the military designation for it was , designed to slide a standard issue kidney canteen into . Although they have taken some liberties with this design usually has no lid or secondary cup.
Good review. The term "canteen" doesn't just refer to a drinking flask. It can also refer to a store, a bar, a mess kit, and, wait for it, a container.
The company makes a round pot with a lid that is a fry pan, if you want to stir easier. I have a one liter pot with a five-and-a-half inch fry pan cover. The non-round shape is to carry next to your body, just like the old canteens.
I can see why they called it that. From above, the pots are kidney shaped, the same basic shape as a standard military canteen. I'm guessing a canteen can slip into the pots the same as the canteen cup that comes with military issue.
Looks like a decent piece of kit . I have boundless voyage pot set But they called it a pot and pan set but really it's just a 2 pot set lol 1 liter pot and a half liter pot .small pot is used as a lid for the big pot but it's not ideal . Over all I was quite happy w the light weight titanium set. The price was decent 4 yrs ago any way. Cheers Titanium
I love boundless voyage, i dont have these, i do have their actual canteen kit which is shaped different and i carry with me everyday in my work bag. I have a bunch of their pots along with a couple different twig burners and grill plate. They have the better price and the lids all have lips that stay on the pots.
It is a Canteen Mess Kit because it has 2 components as opposed to just a Canteen Cup. It can be matched with a Canteen and Canteen Stove and put in a Canteen carrier to make a full Kit.
I think the reason why they called it the canteen mess kit is because it's shaped like a canteen. I could be wrong but that's thought on it. I like it. I would like to buy a larger canteen mess kit lol.🙂
Hey Luke could you do a follow up video that shows what model canteens fit in this cup? I don't think the Pathfinder will fit, but I think regular issue army canteens and the Nalgene ones fit....Boundless also offers another set that has a bail handle on the cup and a stove, love to see your thoughts on that one too.
I have owned a previous iteration of this product for about 3 years, the set is more squared off at the sides instead of kidney shaped and included a nested 1L wide mouth titanium canteen, also the lid has some vents. While it hasn't been through 'hard use' I have took it on on about half a dozen camping trips and it has been dropped a few times when full(while all nested in the carrying pouch) but there not even minor dents in it. So In my opinion, your conclusion is spot on - its decent quality and value and very functional. The only minor criticism I have is that the lid of the canteen makes an annoying squeaky noise when you are screwing it on, but it is 100% watertight.
The word "canteen" also means "dining hall" or "mess hall". Since you can take this wherever you're going and use it to prepare a meal, you're kind of carrying your mess hall with you. Maybe that's what they were thinking of with the name?
Apparently people are confused by the fact that these are designed to fit around a canteen. Clearly, people are not bothering to read the product description.
The word “canteen” is a proper location that sells or distributes food and drink as well as a drinking container. Generally used when referring to dining areas for institutions like schools, military, and hospitals. The word “canteen” can be used like this in a sentence: we are going to the canteen for lunch, would you like to go? Alternatively: can i have a drink from your canteen? mine has a hole in it.
This lid does not have vent holes for the reason of cooking steam rice. Any vents would allow the steam to evaporate away and not cook the rice properly. By having a snug seal, it acts as a mini pressure cooker, recycling the steam through every grain. You just have to remove the pot from the heat once the top lid is hot and let the steam do the work. The difference is night and day when it comes to cooking perfect rice between a vented lid and a sealed one. As for the excuse of having water boil over, any camper with any decent experience would just canter the lid, unless it's someone who has never done any cooking in their lives. The only drawback with this design, is that titanium doesn't retain heat well, and it takes some skill to get the temperature right to get fluffy rice with not pot stick.
As others have written, canteen has more than one meaning, it is not limited to "an item that holds water and you drink from it" Those are canteen cups, even if no drinking canteen is included. Also, there is no vent on the lid, so you can use it for baking. Simply leave the lid a little ajar to vent. FYI, I have no affiliation with this company, nor own any of their products. I'm just familiar with that category of product.
I think they named it the canteen mess kit because the 750ml version is meant to nest with the 1.1L canteen they sell. Interesting the fully nested version of the setup (kit+canteen) does have venting holes already drilled in the lid, so maybe it's a work in progress
*On page 2 of the Boundless Voyage website, the last item listed is what I consider to be the better canteen cooking set. Included in this set is....* (1) titanium, 1100ml, military-style canteen with a wide mouth. Dimensions are 190mm (H) × 129mm (W) × 70mm (D). Weight is 160g. (1) titanium, 750ml, large canteen cooking cup with two shouldered batwing handles. Dimensions are 96mm (H) × 140mm (W) × 84mm (D). Weight is 107g. (1) titanium, 400ml, small canteen cooking cup with two butterfly style handles. Dimensions are 50mm (H) × 140mm (W) × 84mm (D). Weight is 80g. Both canteen cups have double loop fittings on both of the narrow sides of the cup, which will accept the 2, l-shaped, offset hooks that are on both ends of the braided stainless steel pot suspension cable. (1) titanium, lid with three drain holes, a d-ring loop folding handle, and a deeply recessed rim that snugs down over the rolled edge rims of the cups. No dimensions are listed, but when referencing similar lids for TOAKS and other titanium cookware, one can reliably assume that you can add 3-4 mm in both directions, with approximate measurements of 144mm (L) × 88mm (W). Weight is 38g. There is an included synthetic fabric pouch and the total listed weight for the pouch, canteen, large cup, small cup, lid, and the braided wire pot suspension assembly is 557g.
This looks like they would fit into a military canteen holder. It also looks like a canteen would fit into the pots. I guess you will have to check it out yourself.
This kit is made to fit into a standard US GI canteen and cover. In the cover place lid first,upside down the the cup then pot, and last a standard GI canteen.😊
I agree. That is why it is called a (CANTEEN KIT) And Infosys that it is a kit for a CANTEEN. And not a CANTEEN, any one who would buy this product thinking it was a CANTEEN should get better instructions..IDIOTS.
I watch every video… love them all. But, would love and think it’s interesting, to see what you would rate items you share with Stars.. How many stars would you give this product. 😊
Judging by the pics on amazon, they added holes to the lids on all 3 sets. Don't know if they actually did or not, just putting this out there. Either way it is getting added to my "maybe" list.
I think the name is fine. In the Army, we had a “canteen cup”. It’s just a cup/pot that can fit a canteen inside. The naming is consistent, not confusing.
But will it fit in to the cover with a canteen? This review SUCKED!!!
EDIT; On par with a trail walker!!! LOL
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1. Yes it does.
2. Not at all.
3. Based on your listing of comments you're a know nothing, done nothing troll.
Sometimes I feel like he likes to go off on tangents or likes to nitpick depending upon the manufacturer. I have never once seen him be hyper critical on Fjallraven products even when they’re clearly garbage. I’ve seen him be fair with their products, but not nitpicky. The Fjallraven Wind Sack review comes to mind. He quite literally gave the thing three chances and it failed all three times. If this was a different manufacturer (Coleman or Kelty), after the first fail he would’ve stopped.
Agreed.
A case of 'chirping' for the sake of. Much ado over nothing.
Someone with a military background may understand that, but others may not. He said there a lot of Amazon reviews from people who were confused by the naming, so it's a fair criticism.
In case you are living on this Planet, but not in the US
Metric Weight Units:
Total Kit : 8.2oz = 232g
600ml Pot : 3.6oz = 102g
300ml Cup : 2.2oz = 62g
Lid : 1.0oz = 28g
Pot hang and storage bag : 1.1oz = 31g
For the US guys, 300ml are 10 liquid ounzes
Oh my gosh, you made my day when you corrected your grammar to "...there ARE no vents..."! Correct grammar and spelling were drilled into me from elementary school to grad school, and it drives me CRAZY when presenters (including newscasters!) use incorrect grammar. So, well done, you. Also, thank you for your review. :)
The name and the shape make perfect sense to me since it is designed so that you can nest a army canteen inside it (the kidney shape ones). And that's exactly how i use mine (the lid goes on the bottom and its a perfect fit).
It fits in a canteen carrier?
@@kurtrussell5228 Depends on the carrier. if your original cup is narrower on the bottom, and you have the snug fit type of a carrier, then it's a struggle and the lid will not fit on the bottom. i use MFH Mole Utility pouch and it fits the canteen set with a MFH canine nested with no problem (even has space to put a small wood oven in it).
Canteen mess kit is exactly what it is. The mess kit that fits a canteen. Also there are two definitions of Canteen, one of which is a military camp restaurant.
Or any food service area really. We had a canteen in high school.
It would be simple for Boundless Voyage to add: (Canteen not included).................. Great review, Luke. Thanks for sharing....
I like that you correct your grammar. I always contend that if you broadcast you have an obligation to use proper English, as many people watch whose first language is not English and they're trying to learn and can use your language as a guide through their learning. Keep up the good work.
I will 2nd what everyone is saying about the name. I don't find anything confusing about it. The name is accurate in my opinion. You can put the kit in a military canteen cover/pouch and place a military canteen inside to carry or transport. As to the shape, it's shaped like that so it contours to the body when worn typically in the kidney area on a duty belt.
good to hear it will fit into a usgi canteen holder with a usgi 1 qt canteen in it.
as a cup and put is great. vet holes are so easy to do. two or three on each end. and maybe a very thin cloth between each item to stop any rattles?
I appreciate that you actually use a product before you give a review. It's impossible for 1 person to do this for every product. I feel like I should be paying you for doing this. The time savings and money savings alone is worth its weight in salt. Thank you and stay special interest free!!!!!
I like the shape. Will fit better in a pack than a traditional pot that is a full circle.
Canteen (n): a restaurant provided by an organization such as a military camp, college, factory, or company for its soldiers, students, staff, etc. In that sense, this is exactly what this mess kit represents: a mess kit you could use for food service and consumption from the unit/company/school canteen. As others have mentioned, it also fits the shape of some (perhaps older) canteens (as in Canteen (n) 2: a small water bottle, as used by soldiers or campers) that are (or were) issued to soldiers in the US Army and other organizations. It looks as though if you put the lid at the bottom, you could fit this kit inside the old LBE hip canteen cover, and fit the 1L canteen inside it. Name seems perfectly reasonable to me.
I guess a lot of people like titanium but honestly I prefer my BCB crusader kit. For the same price as your, you get a canteen cup, a canteen, a plastic cup, a stove and a camo carry bag and it all nestles together. Whereas this one states it cant all nestle together when you buy the bigger kit eg. The canteen flask and the two cups with no stove!
Nothing wrong with a stainless steel set so long as you don’t mind the bit of extra weight. I also have a Solo Stove with pot that is stainless. I did swap out the lid for a titanium one to save a bit of weight, but it is great otherwise.
I've had this kit with the canteen for about 6 months. Absolutely love it. It comes with a very decent bag and shoulder strap. Not mesh, a real bag.
I have the set with a Nalgene canteen for the last 2 years. Yes GI style canteen fits in it. It is a great set for camping and is rather sturdy. I almost lost a handle when washing in a large bin at a gathering with lots of people. The two cups make it a great set although I wish it came with two lids. I recommend it with a GI style canteen.
Glad that you had the balls, and intelligence, to make that clear.
Luke has pissed me off on several occasions with his blatant ignorance.
Thank you for your recommendation !!!
I also ha have kit with a Nalgene canteen and I love it .but I had to shop around and find an extra component that fit the base making it all together four peace set not including the lid. The component is a wood or hidroxan stove bottom and it all works together nicely . S and H ...CHEERS....
I have a Boundless Voyage titanium 750ml round pot with lid for boiling water for dehydrated meals/coffee. Nested inside I have a SnowPeak brand green anodized 450ml titanium cup. Nested inside that I have an MSR pocket rocket 2. Works brilliant for all my needs.
Great review. I. Have been buying this brand for several years. I started out with the canteen and pot system. Then I bought the system you tested. It balances the pack. Then came the coffee pot. Now, I have one complete system for each of my packs. I don't like having to move items around pack to pack. Also I've gotten used to the size servings and pack meals pre measured. Clean easy. I drilled small holes at one end of the lid as a strainer system. I am outfitting 5 more packs with this same system for family. I trust these items. Stay safe, stay strong.
Canteen is the correct term for this product. Canteen is not just a single utensil or container. Defined -"a restaurant provided by an organization such as a military camp, college, factory, or company for its soldiers, students, staff, etc." So canteen kit is accurate. But still as always, great vid and info!
Several months ago I got the "full" version (1100 ml canteen + 750 ml pot + 400 ml cup + ventilated lid + hanging cable) for about 30 EUR from a kind of discount store (I'm pretty sure it was imported from Amazon for whatever reasons)
Brand new! All packed in a nice backpack where you can put the other cooking items.
I used it twice, very pleased with it!
Canteen is synonymous with mess. Historically, a canteen was the mess hall.
The more you know !!
I just reviewed the 1000ml titanium mess tin and 800ml titanium mess tin from Tomshoo. Ebikecnx7239
The canteen cup cookset is the way to go. The two cups, the lid, the cable, and... wait for it... a 1100ml canteen. Fits well in the Helikon-tex Essentials pouch.
About the name, I understand where everyone is coming from. However, at 68 I grew up with a canteen mess kit just about like this and have looked for years to one similar to it. I had a WWII canteen and under it was a mess kit just like that. It had a fold out handle and it all fit in the canteen pouch I wore on my military belt. So yes it is a canteen mess kit by all means. The canteen was and is a separate item. Two items, canteen, canteen mess kit. Also a wood stove kit is available as well. Add the three together and stack them high as you can.
It would've been nice to see how the hanging part works. I feel like it would be hard to keep level, especially with the shorter pot. But maybe thats why it's shaped that way.
Wow, I actually have that kit for years now. Kinda at least. I bought the canteen set and it actually came with a titanium canteen in addition to what you have. I really like that kit and I also use the canteen when I go to the gym for example. Although I'm always hesitant to bring fuel like esbit with me. Since you stack the big pot into the small, I don't want any strange resedue on the big pot when I put it on a fire. The canteen itself would be stacked into the bigger pot and it came with a canteen pouch. The lid would then be stored behind the canteen set in the pouch. Also, my lid actually has vents.
I’ve got the “valtcan” (Amazon cheapo)version of this and it is great. The “pan” part has a fold under handle rather than butterfly handle. Love it. Never used the hanging wire though.
This is an update of the German & other European Military issue mess kit.. If you shop around you can get the full set which includes a cooking systems . This system has been in use from just after WW1.
Yes, I've got some of these (I'm from Hungary). Lot european nations got these, with a bit difference each. It's a great versatile thing, but the heat loss is not so good due to its shape. But comfortable to bring in the original military "canteenbag" close to your body.
Aren't those canteen sizes standardized by NATO as well?
I know you said it didn't come with a canteen, however, since it is the shape of one, and is intended to be used with one, it would have been good to see you take an normal US issue canteen and show that it fits. Also, if you took a normal issue canteen cover and test that fit as well. Thanks for the review.
Clearly, he doesn't understand that this is how it is to be used. Despite being military.
Lid, upside down at the bottom of the bag, USGI canteen dropped in the top, all stashed neatly in a single pouch or tucked into a ruck. Done and done. I have a similar full-round system that fits in a small slingpack for over-the-shoulder carry or ladder compatible, depending on circumstance.
Luke, you surely have a couple of canteens...should have shown if they fit into the system.
I own three different canteens that fit this, so i bought this item years ago to use as a hiking cooking system. It works well, and all 3 canteens fit it well. No confusion here.
I’ve had one of these for a while. If you get one, get the larger one. I really like mine but kick myself for not getting the larger version. Works great with my alcohol stove. Usually my go to for weekend trips.
I have the same kit, but mine has a canteen and I love it
The mesh bag is for dipping the kit into wash water to remove any suds, and for fast drying. The shape is the canteen shape of the US Army Canteen, which was originally designed to fit inside. The original had army belt buckles that they dropped in the Viet Nam ear, because soldiers found they Clanked with movement.
At 73 years young, I'm not about to hike the Appilachian Trail, but I do many day to 3 day hikes. Weight is not a major concern for me, so Titaniam = Meh?
I have stailess steel pot & cup, both pruchased from Walmart, but I believe available on Amazon also. The Ozark Trail cup has the same type folding handles holds 18 oz. and goes for $5.47. My pot is a Stanley, 24 oz. comes with lid, and the handle locks in place to hold the lid on. Both are round, and the pot nests into the cup. Lots of room inside, as I carry a propane mini stove, lighter, matches, flint & steel, candle, and fire starter inside mine. And the price is less than half of the Boundless Voyage. Yes, it's 2 lbs, but unless you are very concerned with weight, it works. I was a Scout Master, and used this on camp outs, hunting, and just hiking for the past 20 or more years, and have yet to wear it out.
That looks a very useful ‘Canteen Cup’ mess kit to me. I’m not confused with the name at all. Two pots is always useful, being able to eat from one whilst your coffee water is boiling up, great. Plenty of room to carry all sorts of stove gear within it too. What’s not to like? Oh and of course, it;s lightweight. I love it. Thanks.
Have one in my EDC. Pocket stove, P-35, and collapsible utensils stowed inside. Good piece of kit.
Nice review, Luke. I like that this system is titanium and that the cup/pot nest together. Also the hanging cable is nice.
According to other comments, and yours, there is a larger set that also includes/nests a kidney shaped canteen. If I were to buy this set I would get the larger one due to the included canteen and the apparent holes in the larger pot lid. (A steel/titanium canteen is great for purifying water as well as using it to keep warm in your sleeping bag).
The reasons I would not get this is due to what you said regarding the shape, which as stated makes stirring coffee/tea and making something in the pot, or holding the cup to drink from, awkward. The kidney shape also prevents nesting isobutane canisters or bottles of alcohol in the pot if you are using a gas or alcohol stove. There are many other companies, Snow Peak, Rock Creek, Toaks, and others that make round titanium pots/cups for those reasons listed and are of similar quality. Some even include a hanging handle.
I think buying this makes sense if you are getting the set with the canteen. Otherwise I would stick with my Toaks/Rock Creek pot/cup combo, unless you prefer something very small/compact.
I half agree with you. It is exactly what it says it is. A canteen mess kit. Not a canteen and mess kit. I will agree at first thought someone ordering this would expect a canteen to be included.
I have this mess kit and use it with a Nalgene Oasis Tritan canteen nested in it. Also a standard plastic military canteen will fit in it.
Got it a few years back. The Nalgene "canteen" bottle (just 130gr) fits perfectly in mine, making it a very light complete kit.
I think any of the names will work as per Webster's dictionary
noun ; a · a portable chest with compartments for carrying bottles or for cooking and eating utensils ; b · a flask for carrying liquids (as on a hike) ; c · mess kit.
Great episode, More adventures ahead.
Canteen means something slightly differant outside of the states, and this kit fits its description perfectly
I've started looking to re-build my kit for backpacking in 2024 so this was pretty useful. I think I'll stick to the round style though. I do like that you can hang this, though honestly i'm usually on an alcohol stove and not really burning anything to hang this over. Still something to think about and come up with a solution for with the round stuff. Take care
fish spreader, can use on a wide mouth water bottle, or a cup if it has two small holes drilled into it, or check out the bushcraft store billy can, or the pathfinder school stainless steel cup
Ive had this for a couple years. I like it. Does the job. Mine came with a canteen and a molle pouch
I was looking at that canteen set a couple years ago. The one with the actual canteen included. But I have a stainless set from years ago. My wife wouldn't let me get it. I did get a titanium emergency whistle from boundless voyage. Appreciate the product. Thanks for your video.
Amazing timing! Literally had this in my cart on Amazon, I’ll be sure to use your affiliate link!
I believe it is called canteen because a US Army canteen is the same shape so it would fit inside of it
Hello there! While I don’t have this particular set, I do have a another of their titanium cook sets for backpacking and I love it. I thought they were a very budget friendly alternative to the Snowpeak set I originally wanted. Stay well!
The canteen part is in reference to a military style canteen would fit in the pot/cup. The pot is almost exactly like the ones issued with our canteens in the Marine Corps, at least while I was in back in the early 2000's.
It's called that because it is the shape of a canteen ... which will fit a canteen perfectly....I' luv mine.
Bought a two pan set from them and is very decent. Use it at lunch for work and camping
I bought a couple other things because much cheaper than other titanium items online I have been happy with all their products
I've enjoyed TOGR for the last ten years but has anyone noticed how its gotten a little weird lately? I can't put my finger on it. Luke seems to be in his own echo chamber recently and seems to just want to go through the motions. I would like to see Luke get into some new activities. How about a guest or two? Hunting, fishing, canoeing, organic gardening, archery, bushcraft shelters, the list goes on and on.
Looks like an update European military cook set. Great product and the weight is awesome
Thank You Luke, hi Susie, for introducing and testing these thing first us love GOD BLESS and so Appreciate You Aloha Always Sister Chrissy Honolulu HI
I think the shape lends itself to packing with a "flatpack" firebox, and may also accommodate other items inside better, circular and or rectangular.
For sure going to be checking this out. Seems very well thought out
I got Boundless Voyage's very same Canteen Kit, overall I'm very satisfied with it. If you miss the canteen, the latest generation of US-Military Canteens (like Nalgene's kidney-shaped Oasis) fit perfectly in there! I've come to make that combo of plastic Nalgene Oasis and Titanium Boundless Voyage Canteen Kit my preferred Canteen-Set because it allows carrying carbonated soda pops and cleaning the bottle in the dishwasher, while staying able to cook/fry over fire. Ironically, Boundless Voyage don't provide a fitting Titanium canteen (maybe due to copyright on the shape?)
As you realized, they do however produce their own canteen in an individual shape, for which you can get another fitting shape of set, also consisting of cup and larger pot plus a MOLLE-compatible camo-pouch.
I was slightly irritated by the contact points of the pot and cup becoming polished and shiny (where pot and cup rub against each other, especially when a filled flask puts load on there) so I asked them if they coat their product - they responded that they give their canteen kit a powder-coating treatment consisting of titanium-powder which is brought to stick purely by heat, so it's quite pure Titanium ware afaik.
Gotta agree, the price is so intriguingly great for the quality you get! I think their product range also looks like it has many feasible designs. Definitely a brand I'll giva another try again, it holds up in comparison to Keith's Titanium Kit any day!
The first thing I thought when i saw it was "oh its a "cups/canteen"" but ive been around the military all my life.
I have the Valtcan kit with canteen. The lid has three holes.
it is called a canteen mess kit because that is what the military designation for it was , designed to slide a standard issue kidney canteen into . Although they have taken some liberties with this design usually has no lid or secondary cup.
Good review. The term "canteen" doesn't just refer to a drinking flask. It can also refer to a store, a bar, a mess kit, and, wait for it, a container.
The company makes a round pot with a lid that is a fry pan, if you want to stir easier. I have a one liter pot with a five-and-a-half inch fry pan cover. The non-round shape is to carry next to your body, just like the old canteens.
I can see why they called it that. From above, the pots are kidney shaped, the same basic shape as a standard military canteen. I'm guessing a canteen can slip into the pots the same as the canteen cup that comes with military issue.
Looks like a decent piece of kit .
I have boundless voyage pot set
But they called it a pot and pan set but really it's just a 2 pot set lol
1 liter pot and a half liter pot .small pot is used as a lid for the big pot but it's not ideal .
Over all I was quite happy w the light weight titanium set. The price was decent 4 yrs ago any way.
Cheers
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I love boundless voyage, i dont have these, i do have their actual canteen kit which is shaped different and i carry with me everyday in my work bag. I have a bunch of their pots along with a couple different twig burners and grill plate. They have the better price and the lids all have lips that stay on the pots.
It is a Canteen Mess Kit because it has 2 components as opposed to just a Canteen Cup. It can be matched with a Canteen and Canteen Stove and put in a Canteen carrier to make a full Kit.
I think the reason why they called it the canteen mess kit is because it's shaped like a canteen. I could be wrong but that's thought on it. I like it. I would like to buy a larger canteen mess kit lol.🙂
Hey Luke could you do a follow up video that shows what model canteens fit in this cup? I don't think the Pathfinder will fit, but I think regular issue army canteens and the Nalgene ones fit....Boundless also offers another set that has a bail handle on the cup and a stove, love to see your thoughts on that one too.
The name is correct they sell a titanium canteen that fits within the nested containers and you put the lid at the bottom of the bag.
I have their canteen set and It’s a different shape it’s square shaped. This kit is designed off the USGI canteen cup.
I have owned a previous iteration of this product for about 3 years, the set is more squared off at the sides instead of kidney shaped and included a nested 1L wide mouth titanium canteen, also the lid has some vents. While it hasn't been through 'hard use' I have took it on on about half a dozen camping trips and it has been dropped a few times when full(while all nested in the carrying pouch) but there not even minor dents in it. So In my opinion, your conclusion is spot on - its decent quality and value and very functional.
The only minor criticism I have is that the lid of the canteen makes an annoying squeaky noise when you are screwing it on, but it is 100% watertight.
Looks like it would pair well with an Esbit folding stove.
The word "canteen" also means "dining hall" or "mess hall". Since you can take this wherever you're going and use it to prepare a meal, you're kind of carrying your mess hall with you. Maybe that's what they were thinking of with the name?
I have it and rather than buying the expensive water canteen, I just use my nalgene and it fits perfectly.
Apparently people are confused by the fact that these are designed to fit around a canteen. Clearly, people are not bothering to read the product description.
The word “canteen” is a proper location that sells or distributes food and drink as well as a drinking container. Generally used when referring to dining areas for institutions like schools, military, and hospitals. The word “canteen” can be used like this in a sentence: we are going to the canteen for lunch, would you like to go? Alternatively: can i have a drink from your canteen? mine has a hole in it.
Yea I’d say it’s just called a canteen cup because the cup itself fits a military style canteen
I have this and a titanium cup .Great products
This lid does not have vent holes for the reason of cooking steam rice. Any vents would allow the steam to evaporate away and not cook the rice properly. By having a snug seal, it acts as a mini pressure cooker, recycling the steam through every grain. You just have to remove the pot from the heat once the top lid is hot and let the steam do the work. The difference is night and day when it comes to cooking perfect rice between a vented lid and a sealed one.
As for the excuse of having water boil over, any camper with any decent experience would just canter the lid, unless it's someone who has never done any cooking in their lives.
The only drawback with this design, is that titanium doesn't retain heat well, and it takes some skill to get the temperature right to get fluffy rice with not pot stick.
Thanks, Luke. There’s better out there…that are round. 😊. From northern Kentucky.
A canteen is not just a drinking device. It is also a device used to carry bottles for cooking and eating utensils. But it does sound misleading 😊
I wonder about health effects eating out of non-stainless cookware. Aluminium & titanium
Hi Luke, does the Keith titanium canteen fit? That'd be fantastic!
As others have written, canteen has more than one meaning, it is not limited to "an item that holds water and you drink from it"
Those are canteen cups, even if no drinking canteen is included.
Also, there is no vent on the lid, so you can use it for baking. Simply leave the lid a little ajar to vent.
FYI, I have no affiliation with this company, nor own any of their products. I'm just familiar with that category of product.
Will be nice to see hang over fire if it's part of design
I just got a set it has vents on the lid and a cammo bag, I also found their wide mouth canteen that nests inside it but it’s an additional 80 bucks
Nice kit. Looks very similar to the Pathfinder titanium canteen kit, minus the canteen.
Looks like they took inspiration from the BCB Crusader complete system. Which comes with stove, cup, canteen, cook pot, that is also kidney shaped.
I think they named it the canteen mess kit because the 750ml version is meant to nest with the 1.1L canteen they sell. Interesting the fully nested version of the setup (kit+canteen) does have venting holes already drilled in the lid, so maybe it's a work in progress
*On page 2 of the Boundless Voyage website, the last item listed is what I consider to be the better canteen cooking set. Included in this set is....*
(1) titanium, 1100ml, military-style canteen with a wide mouth. Dimensions are 190mm (H) × 129mm (W) × 70mm (D). Weight is 160g.
(1) titanium, 750ml, large canteen cooking cup with two shouldered batwing handles. Dimensions are 96mm (H) × 140mm (W) × 84mm (D). Weight is 107g.
(1) titanium, 400ml, small canteen cooking cup with two butterfly style handles. Dimensions are 50mm (H) × 140mm (W) × 84mm (D). Weight is 80g.
Both canteen cups have double loop fittings on both of the narrow sides of the cup, which will accept the 2, l-shaped, offset hooks that are on both ends of the braided stainless steel pot suspension cable.
(1) titanium, lid with three drain holes, a d-ring loop folding handle, and a deeply recessed rim that snugs down over the rolled edge rims of the cups. No dimensions are listed, but when referencing similar lids for TOAKS and other titanium cookware, one can reliably assume that you can add 3-4 mm in both directions, with approximate measurements of 144mm (L) × 88mm (W). Weight is 38g.
There is an included synthetic fabric pouch and the total listed weight for the pouch, canteen, large cup, small cup, lid, and the braided wire pot suspension assembly is 557g.
Looks like it’s made to go with the military canteen. Throw the lid in the bottom, nest with canteen and put in the military pouch that’s made for it.
i have this set with a canteen and it is a great set. i have a great setup with this and a Gcc from Centerline system
Very interesting piece of kit
This looks like they would fit into a military canteen holder. It also looks like a canteen would fit into the pots. I guess you will have to check it out yourself.
This kit is made to fit into a standard US GI canteen and cover. In the cover place lid first,upside down the the cup then pot, and last a standard GI canteen.😊
I agree. That is why it is called a (CANTEEN KIT) And Infosys that it is a kit for a CANTEEN. And not a CANTEEN, any one who would buy this product thinking it was a CANTEEN should get better instructions..IDIOTS.
great review video as always 👍
Fun and useful product
I feel like they named it that because it look like it would fit into a canteen pouch quite well.
I watch every video… love them all. But, would love and think it’s interesting, to see what you would rate items you share with Stars.. How many stars would you give this product. 😊
I do have this kit. Very good kit. But They need to make available a titanium canteen that fits the set!
Judging by the pics on amazon, they added holes to the lids on all 3 sets. Don't know if they actually did or not, just putting this out there. Either way it is getting added to my "maybe" list.