What's the BEST Hyper Coaster at Kings Island? | ORION VS DIAMONDBACK
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2023
- Kings Island opened their 2nd B&M Hyper Coaster in 2020: Orion.
But is it better than Diamondback? In this video, we pit Orion and Diamondback against each other to finally answer a burning question - What's the BEST hyper coaster at Kings Island?
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Orion is a GIGA. The drop is 300 feet tall. phantom and Apollo aren’t 200 feet but they’re drops are over 200
You gotta watch the video first. 😉
Haaaaa!
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lift hill is not 300 feet, its not a giga
@@AscenciaFL Drop is 300 feet, it is a giga.
Diamondback is my pick. It does more of what I want. That floater never gets old.
“If you ask the ladies ride time is better than length”. That was so random 😂😂 but perfect
Thanks! 😆
From my own personal experiences this is false
Between the two, I prefer Diamondback. Despite being 6 stories shorter, the airtime is more powerful, the pacing is better, and the splashdown adds a lot to the experience.
Agree!
Personally I prefer Diamondback because I feel like it’s more re-rideable. I can get off and back on where as Orion leaves me slightly disoriented and I can’t get back on for quite some time
That's an important factor for sure!
"Even King's Island Agrees" 😂😂😂 like they would miss that chance.
Oh, totally. Like with Cedar Point calling Pipe Scream a coaster. 😂
Nice job with your humorous analysis. I prefer Diamondback because of its relentless airtime. It's basically a traditional out-and-back, whereas Orion is a twister. And having Orion's brake run so high up in the air seems like such a waste. That ride could easily have kept going for another 1000 feet.
Thank you! Happy you understood the humorous approach to the video. Kinda our style. 😜
Seriously you caught me with the title, but great video, and you earned a new sub! I love both Orion and Diamondback, but honestly I would say Diamondback gets the higher end as I usually have more fun on it, but both coasters are amazing!
Very happy you enjoyed the video! And thank you for the sub! ☺️
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork No problem, have a great day!
@@ejectorairtime73 You too!
“If you ask the ladies, ride time matters more than the length” EXUSE ME WHAT😭😭😭
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Cap
Diamondback has my pick, feels much more complete and absolutely loved the sustained airtime moments during the entire ride.
I clicked on this video thinking you were going to say orion is a hyper because the height is 287 and drop only 310. But im gald you were just talking about the model!
Thanks for actually watching! And not just dropping a comment based off the title of the video. As you saw, the entire video makes fun of the entire "is it a hyper or giga?" argument.
Simple answer: Diamondback. It is the only Steel hypercoaster to ever operate at Kings Island
Well, technically, Orion and Diamondback are both B&M Hyper Coaster models.
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork Fully understood that, it was just an odd way of saying Orion is a giga
@@AmericasCoasterNetworkno they are not ! Stop spreading ignorance. It drops 300 . It's a giga
If orion had 2 more hills or some sort of s bends at the end, nobody would complain about it at all. Or if there was some air off the initial wave turn. Looks really cool, but im honestly just not huge on helices so the “orions belt” doesnt do it for me. 10/10 would still marathon all day
Thanks for calling them both "Hyper Coasters". And yes, I have seen the entire video and I am NOT wanted to say "But only the drop of Orion is higher than 300 feet, so not a real Giga!. Instead I also say that Fury 325 is a B&M Hypercoaster.
Actually I don't understand why people all the time make that distinction, so also in listing videos like "Top B&M Hypers", and don't put the ones that are higher than 300 feet in it. I have never seen that somebody put Valvran in a list of B&M Hypers, just because it is higher than 200 feet. And when somebody talks about all B&M Inverters, I never heard somebody who put Alpengeist and Nemesis in two different categories, although they are very different in height. But when it comes to Hypers, you have two coaster of the same model by the same manufacturer, and you put them in two categories just because a quite small difference in height? Doesn't make much sense to me.
When somebody is asked "What's your favorite GigaCoaster?" would it be OK to say "Red Force"?
I see what you did there, with the clam shell restraints. 😂
I love both of them, their both great smooth hyper coasters
I watched every bit of Orion be built on the live cam and the last time I was able to go was 2019. Kings island is my home park and I waited years to finally get to ride Orion. Last Wednesday I was able to ride it. It was almost like an outer body experience or possibly spiritual and I am atheist 😬 lol however, it was everything I hoped it wud be and more. It’s the only Giga I’ve rode to date. Im a single mom with 2 teen daughters and just haven’t been able to afford to take us till last week. I love both coasters. Orions drop is definitely more intense and the speed overall is more intense than DB. I love DBs floater airtime and I loved the airtime hills that pop on Orion and I love the airtime on DB. So I love them both equally in different ways for different reasons. I wish Orion was a little bit longer. Both climbs are so fast you don’t even get time to think about what craziness is getting ready to happen. Both coasters to me…….are amazing rides. Fury 325, steel vengeance, Iron Gwazi are on my coaster bucket list for east coast. I know I’ll never make it any further than Holiday world, and my hopes are not very high at ever getting to go there. I’ve never been to cedar point……..I literally can feel myself craving to go, but. I have rode original Gwazi and Son of Beast with/without loop and got a few rides on the defunct Hurricane at Dania Beach when I lived in West Palm. I’ve yet to get to experience an RMC. I love Mystic Timbers, which I know is a CGI and it’s a great ride and I just know RMC is an even more amazing ride. I’d love love love to ride the Voyage and Ravine Flyer II. Can’t decide if I love wood coasters more or steel.
Between the 2, i prefer Diamondback. Honestly, i think Diamondback is probably the best, or 2nd best B&M hyper.
caught me off guard with the ride time joke…
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Orions turnaround is basically the height of Iron Gwazi
That's pretty crazy to think about!
0:36 me 🥲
Same 🥲
I rode both several times. I like diamondback better. It has more hills. Orion is mostly banks. The splashdown on Diamondback is much more fun last row of train. Yes your arms will get wet if you hold them up and out.
Technically Orion is classified as a giga coaster because the drop is at least 300 ft down
It's both. 😀
When I first rode Orion, I thought of it as a Diamondback 2.0. It doesn’t really stand out to me. I think they’re tied imo.
I call it Diamondbacks bigger brother, lol. Me and my daughters got to finally ride Orion for the first time literally last Tuesday/Wednesday. I love both
Good video, man.
Thanks!
I don't really consider Orion to be a hyper nor a giga. But if I had to decide I'd say a hyper. I say it's a Hyga.
Hyga! I love that term! 😂
The definition of a giga coaster is that the lift hill OR (the keyword) drop is 300 ft or above
B&M calls it a hyper model, but its technically a giga
That's the joke. 😝
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork yeah its weird
I personally like Orion better. My lap bar came up on Diamond Back on the main, first, hill. Scared me pretty bad. I put my arms up for the hill and click click click. I freaked out and not in a good way. After the ride I reported it to the ride attendant. Orion just is a smooth enjoyable ride. I rode it 6 times in a row.
The lap bar literally can not come up unless it is in the station. That goes for any roller coaster you ride.
Stop lying bro
To be honest i think both of them are a win win
Nitro is my favorite hyper. Its layout includes a helix and final bunny hills. It’s more of a complete experience. Diamondback is the only coaster at KI that I think is a little overrated. There’s a rattle (not because it’s named after a snake), and the layout is basically just out and back.
Out and back? Like all coasters?🤷🏻♂️
@@Antievasive If you read my comment more carefully, I already addressed your question.
They are both even in my heart
Oh how many arguments could have been avoided if K. I. would have just added 13 more feet to that fn lift hill.
Right? It’s so dumb.
Diamondback because it slows you and it makes you feel like you’re going to fly out of ur seat
Some of the best airtime for sure!
I’ve been on both and give me diamondback any day. However Orion at night is a good ride and the first drop seems endless especially in the very back row.
Yeah, that first drop is incredible!
I mean a b&m giga is just a beefed up hyper…right
Basically
Candymonium is 53-55 seconds long in PRT and Orion is 48-52 seconds long
Chris from airtime thrills counts MCBRs as part of prime ride time. I consider Orion to be a giga since I respect drop more than height, which means I don't consider Magnum a hyper since it has a 194.7' drop I'be never been to K.I. but I think Fury is the only park where the Giga is better than the hyper; I've been to Canada Wonderland and I prefer Behemoth to Leviathan and I think I'd feel the same about Diamondback vs Orion, even though MOP by Metallica is the best metal album of all time.
Thats an interesting take. Drop over height. What about those coasters with inversions? For example, is X2 a hyper with its 215 foot drop? Also, regarding Metallica, my personal favorite album is ... And Justice For All. But Master of Puppets is also great.
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork Most enthusiasts don't count Dive coasters for example, but I don't see why not. BTW AJFA and MOP are close for me but the latter was too dry without enough bass (Jason; not low end). Battery already had the speed and the title track of MOP has the length and progressiveness in a more organic manner than AJFA. All songs on MOP are in between 5:12.5 and 8:33.5 minutes; nothing too long, nothing too short. It's also the 1st thrash metal album w dry and clear production, recorded in Autumn '85 and released in Feb. '86 and contains some of Cliff's best work. By the time AJFA came out, Slayer and Anthrax had also released dryly produced thrash; and the lack of Jason's bass is an admitted oversight. It's no wonder MOP considered to be the most important American metal album of all time by the American Library of Congress.
Justice is definitely better than Puppets. Way more intricate, blistering songs. AJFA had better lyrics throughout the album than MOP, and the songs were just packed full of so much more gold. The riffs and the endless changeups were relentless, and James and Lars never sounded so tight.
@@theimmortalcadaver6300 I disagree but respect your opinion because Justice does have those advantages, but MOP comes off more naturally and you can hear the bass too. It wasn't as dry as AJFA but it didn't need to be: nothing that heavy was as dry as POP when it came out. Thanks for your input!
Magnum coined the phrase "hyper coaster" so you need to modify the rules around the ride, not the ride to the rules.
I know thats bait 😂 well done havent even got through ads
It all makes sense when you watch the entire thing.
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork I assumed as much. Great video by the way, went to kings island yesterday and rode both multiple times. Both excellent rides in their own ways.
0:36 what about x2 and xcelerator
Well, I guess some count those as hypers. But they aren't in the traditional sense. That is, a coaster with no inversions, not launched, and airtime based. Which is something we need badly in California.
15:14 It is 310 feet tall...
Oops! Not sure how I goofed on that.
At least Hershey has got a better and longer Hyper coaster then a giga coaster which is Orion but its still a good ride but its very short
We were kinda bored with Candymonium. Trimmed too much. Fun but nothing spectacular.
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork I heard in the winter they turn off the trim brakes. The trims ruin the ride and kill the pacing. Everytime i ride it im like curse you trim brake. The ride will be a 10/10 with one my airtime hill and with out the trim brakes but they will make the ride last longer. Candymonium wont get old for the general public or most of the coaster enthusiasts for a long time
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork No B&M Hyper is the best coaster ever but there great rides
Stay out of the shed. It’s in the shed. One of my favorite wooden coasters.
Imo the height of a rollercoaster is the highest and lowest point that all riders experience.
Bro is ab to get canceled over calling Orion a hyper😂
Diamondback is the better ride, It's more balanced. Orion is a 2 trick pony. Most informal surveys online have Diamondback as a slight favorite.
This video had so many twists and turns but wrapped up all the loose ends. Especially after my 2022 rides, Diamondback for me is FAR superior to Orion, but i appreciate the unique layout of Orion. Just wish it stayed more low to the ground like Fury does
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed all the twists and turns.
Yeah, I love Orion, but if I could change one thing was to maybe add some low to the ground elements to showcase speed over all other elements
Orion has a giga drop so its kinda a giga coaster. if phantoms revenge is a hyper then this is a giga
Oh, totally. 😃
Should have said it slitherd back to the top
Missed opportunity. Darn.
Isnt diamondback based of the snake
Orion
Is
A GIGAAA
Orion may technically be a Giga but Diamondback is better
Orion is a giga. 300ft drop
Still a B&M Hyper Coaster. 😉
Y’all can accept Apollo’s Chariot as a hyper but not Orion as a Giga?
It's all explained in the video. 😀
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork where
Orion isn’t a hyper it is a 300 foot drop the height doesn’t matter
Gotta watch the video. 😉
ORION IS A GIGA YOU SON OF BEAST LOVIN-
Ah, you didn't watch the video, did ya?
Buddy, Orion is a giga
Gotta watch the video before you comment. 😉
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork But one thing, I did watch it. You keep mentioning Orion as a hyper
@@KIKoasterKid Well, then you didn't finish it. Because it's all explained.
yeah you need to watch the video
@@aarusharya5658 bruh I literally watched it
Orion is a Giga coaster* same with some of the others you mentioned
Not according to B&M 😉
I rode both yesterday and loved both. But Diamond Back is my #1 more airtime and hills!!
I need some more Diamondback! But in California.
Y’all keep saying that Orion is so much smoother than diamondback like dude check the video POVs it’s super bumpy and there is ZERO bumps in diamondback lol
diamondback. Even if orion was 299 feet with a 299.9999998 drop, dback is still better
Orion is both
ORION IS A FUCKING GIGA
Orion is a giga coaster bro
Did you not watch the video?
I Dont Get The Argument That Orion Is A Hyper The Drop Is Literally 300ft That's Fact The Lift Hill Doesn't Mean Shit Lol
"According to Bolliger & Mabillard, both Diamondback and Orion are hyper coaster models."
I'm guessing you didn't watch the video? If you had, you would have known it was quite tongue-in-cheek.
@AmericasCoasterNetwork What's your point, though every non-looping B&M is a hyper-coaster model. Also, please tell me what the fuck tongue in cheek means. White people's slang is wild. 😂
If Orion is not a giga, then apollos chariot is not a hyper, and you cannot argue that
They are both B&M Hyper Coaster models. 😉
Orion and Fury are both Gigas
They are both B&M Hyper Coaster models. 😉
Really??? Is beating this dead horse the best use of your Wi-Fi
I take it you only looked at the title.
orion is a b&m giga
😅 Orion is a giga see it has to have a drop of 300 feet it does not to be that tall
Yes it’s a giga but B&M calls Orion a Hyper Coaster MODEL.
Rode both for the first time just a week ago. Diamondback is clearly a better coaster. Both are good but neither stack up to Millenium Force or Magnum in respective categories. They are both smooth as glass but entirely unmemorable and 20 years behind in the coaster race -- rode each with 20 or 20 years of been there and done that.
Well said. Even though Magnum was running like garbage during our last visit, it has more character than Diamondback. It's like driving or riding in a classic car versus a new car.
Orion is a GIGA... thats all.
It's explained in the video. 😀
orion is a giga tf
Someone didn't watch the video. 😜
Diamondback is the ONLY HYPER at KI. Why is this even a video? How do we tale it down? Why aren’t people using rcdb for accurate information?
How about you watch the video first? 😜
Talking about waking the dead. How about a video based on fact
It is.
Orion is the better coaster as it’s a Hyper and a Giga
That's a great way to look at it!
I like Turtles
How dare you call orion a hyper
B&M calls it a Hyper Coaster model.
@@AmericasCoasterNetwork oh well
No park would put in a new coaster of any kind that doesn't beat their top one at the time.