Thanks for the insight on Dorans Shield + Hydra on match-ups where we really cant interact on the lane now I can actually have an option on hard lanes lool.
Issue is stats. Ranged champions have way too much raw stats for how safe they are, and besides that, the mage items that give HP give way too much DPS. Vlad had almost 1k HP on you when you both were at one item, and it's not like he bought Cosmic for the tankiness...
@@riven4121 Yeah, Vlad is a bad example, but take other champions, lets say top lane bullies both @lv11 with one high DPS item: Heimer + Liandry has 1850 HP while Warwick with bork has 1600 HP. Sure, Warwick gets to stay in lane for long due to sustain, but Heimer also does since its very hard to damage him without getting punished. And somehow heimer still had 250HP over WW simply cause AP items keep giving free HP.
I feel what you are saying about everyone beeing so tanky soo hard I used to main jungle assassins but it just feels unplayable atm, switched to Riven top and Tanks are still .. well tanks and oneshot me but I don't feel completely useless at least. Sometimes I wish I enjoyed playing Tanks or shit like Wukong ....
I main Talon and his damage is already low for an assassin. I can't even one shot a mispositioned ADC with full build because their base stats are so high and lethality is useless. They have to be like 4 levels down to die and it feels so absurd. Every Talon main I know just builds bruiser now: Ghostblade -> Cleaver -> Steelcaps and tries to kill people in 2 rotations. Mages and AP assassins one shot you while building Hourglass so you're not allowed to fight back (and it gives them 105 AP for some fucking unknown reason. People rush this shit 2nd every game now) and they also get a lot of HP from their items. Edge of Night is great but it doesn't do shit by itself, and Grudge has nowhere near enough pen to scratch people after 18 minutes into the game. I think Riot just have an issue with non-crit flat physical damage dealers, Riven suffered from the same thing too.
@@makk3400 I really miss the double pen items, they were so good. Being able to actually damage tanks was amazing. But yeah, ADCs now have 3k HP and 120 armour late-game, plus a support, plus Bloodthirster and Barrier.. and with all the lethality item nerfs you can't even kill them anymore. Everyone else builds Hourglass or a ton of HP, it's such a boring state right now. Even if you get into melee range of half the champions, Talon's numbers aren't high enough to break through all their HP now. You just have to clear up fights instead which feels so pathetic.
2 videos before this "Riven broken" now " I Hate Top Lane" lol. Guess she still broken just not into range champions :/. Love the videos keep it up Adrian and RBC Edit: I would totalled play more league if there was money involved. People actually will get better and maybe not troll. Idk about 500 rp though maybe 100-200 rp. Though as you climb the ranks the more you have to pay.
Thanks for the insight on Dorans Shield + Hydra on match-ups where we really cant interact on the lane now I can actually have an option on hard lanes lool.
Adrian is cooking so hard w/ the paywalling ranked
i am the First to quit the game instantly (and finally i can touch the called GRASS)
Issue is stats. Ranged champions have way too much raw stats for how safe they are, and besides that, the mage items that give HP give way too much DPS. Vlad had almost 1k HP on you when you both were at one item, and it's not like he bought Cosmic for the tankiness...
Vlad has a passive that gives him health for buying AP. Having a large health pool is quite literally his thing.
@@riven4121opposite way around
@@riven4121 Yeah, Vlad is a bad example, but take other champions, lets say top lane bullies both @lv11 with one high DPS item: Heimer + Liandry has 1850 HP while Warwick with bork has 1600 HP. Sure, Warwick gets to stay in lane for long due to sustain, but Heimer also does since its very hard to damage him without getting punished. And somehow heimer still had 250HP over WW simply cause AP items keep giving free HP.
You're right, but Vlad is a bad example since he naturally has a lot more hp. That's his whole thing.
@@riven4121 Ryze is another blatabtly problematic AP/HP tank and he doesn't get hp from kit, just overtuned mage and mana items.
I feel what you are saying about everyone beeing so tanky soo hard
I used to main jungle assassins but it just feels unplayable atm, switched to Riven top and Tanks are still .. well tanks and oneshot me but I don't feel completely useless at least.
Sometimes I wish I enjoyed playing Tanks or shit like Wukong ....
Wukong is not even that boring though once you play him a bit more, but I feel the same way
I main Talon and his damage is already low for an assassin. I can't even one shot a mispositioned ADC with full build because their base stats are so high and lethality is useless. They have to be like 4 levels down to die and it feels so absurd. Every Talon main I know just builds bruiser now: Ghostblade -> Cleaver -> Steelcaps and tries to kill people in 2 rotations. Mages and AP assassins one shot you while building Hourglass so you're not allowed to fight back (and it gives them 105 AP for some fucking unknown reason. People rush this shit 2nd every game now) and they also get a lot of HP from their items. Edge of Night is great but it doesn't do shit by itself, and Grudge has nowhere near enough pen to scratch people after 18 minutes into the game. I think Riot just have an issue with non-crit flat physical damage dealers, Riven suffered from the same thing too.
@@coldresin Mained Talon when Mythics and Cleaver + Seryldas was still a thing, dropped him when he became less than a cannon minion last Season tho
@@makk3400 I really miss the double pen items, they were so good. Being able to actually damage tanks was amazing. But yeah, ADCs now have 3k HP and 120 armour late-game, plus a support, plus Bloodthirster and Barrier.. and with all the lethality item nerfs you can't even kill them anymore. Everyone else builds Hourglass or a ton of HP, it's such a boring state right now.
Even if you get into melee range of half the champions, Talon's numbers aren't high enough to break through all their HP now. You just have to clear up fights instead which feels so pathetic.
I recently had a mental breakdown playing into vlad top
There is one bug going around (maybe) in which everyone is getting a D- after game no matter how well they played
Happend to me yesterday. I was 8/1/4 jgl with all drakes n stuff. 226 cs in 24 minutes and most overall gold. And got a D-
I'd like to see some jungle VoDs if possible. MAybe on your side channel?
i think adrian might have been a little tilted this game
we want to see jungle games on channel
Try viego adrian hes very rewarding and fun champ
ADRIAN LET ME COOK TRY RIVEN JUNGLE! HER CLEAR IS REALLY GOOD TRY IT YOU CAN FULL CLEAR IN 3 MINUTES LITERALY THIS IS YOUR ARC!!
ruclips.net/video/Oc6u3WVq0wE/видео.html The closest I've seen is 3.20 mate
Bro doesn't realize nobody cares
2 videos before this "Riven broken" now " I Hate Top Lane" lol. Guess she still broken just not into range champions :/. Love the videos keep it up Adrian and RBC
Edit: I would totalled play more league if there was money involved. People actually will get better and maybe not troll. Idk about 500 rp though maybe 100-200 rp. Though as you climb the ranks the more you have to pay.
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