I was willing to give then the benefit of the doubt and had high hopes for this patch. But if even Korea does this, i can only imagine what Gameforge will do... Ive seen enough, no more aion for me. Waste of time. Thanks for the vid Sywo, u saved me so much time
People who complains on coments about how people complains for being P2W. We all know, I know as well that Aion tries his best for making us open our wallets. However, people seems to forget that there are servers running out, people working for character, scenes, maps, designs in game. People who works in NCSOFT office gets a salary every month. Do you really think people nowdays works for free? Would you keep up a game that stays free? What would you even get from that? Be realistic people please. Aion just messed up many times the game system such as how much it fails when you enchant things and break the items. Totally agree. Or even the fact that PVP does not have the same emotion as it had before back on 3.0 when you could kill for ap or get scared to lose it when an asmo/elyo killed you. Now you die and it is not a big deal as it doesn't mean anything. However, you all should keep in mind that every business is done to make money. Otherwise you better don't start a business. Shops are made to gain money not because they feel sorry for you not being able to eat something at the end of the day. No one cares about others is all about money, sadly. However, if you are young and student and don't want to pay for a game or don't feel like paying for it. Which is reasonable, you still can have fun playing specially now that leveling went finally easy. Do camp quests, you can equip it. It's natural that you can not be the N1 just by playing normal. But you can have fun anyways and get descent gears. PS: Reminds me of those who pays for a 2 star hotel and expect the 5 stars service! NO guys, NOPE.
PvP attack and defense are grayed out when combining weapons. Just like your attack speed from the weapon. Does this mean I should combine pvp with pve ? Wich one should I put first ?
can you speak about arenas? are they still going to exist? 1 vs 1 arenas and 3 vs 3 etc? and is it still Limited to 1 per day? becouse aion as been only mmorpg that only lets you do 1 vs 1 arena 1 time per day and thats it lol did it change?
yea if they dont add arenas or give us more tickets the game just going to become boring over time dont mind pve untill i gear up but after i gear up i want to pvp and dueling all day is not really driving anyone towards the top becouse we all know the governor rank= the guy that pve´s all day and has no clue what even pvp means" when rank governor should mean the guy is top 1 arena player top 1 pvp player skill over anything else but ever since 4.0 patch governor is the guy that runs eternal bastion more then anyone else lmao
What would be nice to see is how to get the red enchantment stones. We know yellow and purple can be obtained in-game however about the red stones sources we don't know much.. care to say a bit about that?
Red pve stones VERY rare drop from new makarna. Red pvp stones VERY rare reward from sieges. In reality, Europe and North America, you will get them from p2w events and probably Christmas and Summer p2w events.
I understand you but as I watch Na and EU closely I can say that EU has way more p2w events than NA so we will see how each publisher handles it. NA is closer to what they have in KR but has to make it a bit more western as not everybody are willing to spend $$.. Let's see and we will get surprised
Sounds bad, but does legendary stone also keep the level in enchanting upon failure? If you have item at +13, and you fail with legendary stone, is it still 13 or back to 10?
Actualy ur not forced to buy anything with real money. Im full 80+20 veteran, without paying a single euro. Of course for a new player things are harder. Cash shop coins are allso "treadable" if u have kinah and a seller to trust, if quna can be gifted, ppl will fiind a way to get them for "free".
Nice and very informative video! I wanna ask you personally, i play 3 classes right now in 5.8 and I’m thinking on focusing one toon when 6.0 comes in NA. Which among these 3 classes are being boosted in pvp so far in 6.0? Chanter, SW and SM? Since you play Chanter in KR, I’ve heard chanters are beast in pvp. SW are still OP and SMs are ok?
Yeah Chanter is so Godlike I HAD to upload a video about it. Basically I have only lost 3 duels out of 100 on that class, and it was the first time playing it. Bard and SM.. meh, dueled many bards and 2 sms, lost one duel with those classes vs a bard coz of mana issues.
Sywo thanks for replying back. I appreciate your input and opinion. I will make chanter as my main then when 6.0 hits NA :) keep up the good work on updating is all about Aion and stuff ❤️
Hello. Could you please give me one expert opinion on pvp? Because I don't know what to do. We have still 6th aion version, waiting for 7.0 I dont know how long more. I have full legendary pvp set from camps all +6, and full ultimate noble aerot set. The question is.. How much more my aerot set is weaker than ultimate camps set? Is it worth to make camps set ultimate if I have noble aerot? Should I enchant noble aerot to +15 or go back to camps set, enchant and make it ultimate? I would be very gratful for your opinion
Funny how 10 days ago you were claming "best patch ever, no pay 2 win at all" and now, after 10 days, you're here doing a video shaking your wallet cause you realized that what NCsoft told us about "making aion great again" was just a sea of LIES
You even said it in this same video that this is the best patch and then you told us this is the most disgusting p2w feature that is forced. These are the BEST items you can get and you need to fine tune them with real money. Please aion 6.0 is getting more garbage.
@@SuperWigMaker Yeah and im gonna say it again, great patch compared to the shit AION has been in the past 2 years. You guys dont seem to get it :D Its great but very p2w.
Gameforge knows his/her playerbase pretty good. They know alot of people will draw their wallet to get the perfect stats. Sure alot of people will complain about the P2W. But they have been doing that for a long time now. As long as people are paying, they wont change.
as u know Gameforge can disable that P2W part as they said we wont have quna (aka Luna)?) instead we get other system, what? we know probaly next Davea tavern video. But who knows.. mayby GF thinks that aion shop wont be enough to get some "cash" to them? Mayby they has it disabled for 6.2 but activates it on 6.5 as its required? Who knows what they will do.
@Sywo can u give me a bit of advice ? im buying pvp staff, can i already combine it with another pvp and after that upgrade to + 15 or should i first upgrade 2 of them to + 15 and after making them purple , Combine ?
At first thanks Sywo again for the information you keep giving us :D! so in the german GF Forum they just said that we will not get Quna (written like this?). The whole Quna system will not arrive in the EU version so we need to wait if gf does something similiar to reroll certain stats or if they just ''delete'' it and we won't have the option to reroll one single stat. I personally don't think that this kind of pay2win will make his way to EU because it's not how GF tries to get their money. Obviously there needs to be some sort of advantage for people who pay this game, I mean it's their work they need to get money somehow and gold packs aren't even close enough to provide them a break even point. So far they tried to get money out of luck games. Let's see if we maybe get some sort of Scroll which can reroll a single stat and you can get the scroll in some Events where you can get a big advantage by buying stuff for the event from the shop BUT so far there was never NOT an option for us to get everything we need actually in game. For example the Daeva Care in EU which gave us a healthy amount of allmighty enchantment stones without paying a single euro. Sywo do you think there might be a chance that this will actually be kinda better in the EU version or do you think GF will make this even worse? I always want to stay positive and personally don't think that GF is a that bad publisher. Just look at NC in Blade and Soul, you could buy the mats to enchant your weapon in the shop on a daily base- that's awfull and way more pay2win than all these event luck games from GF where the most people don't even have luck. The pay2win problem in 5.x was due the tradeability of all stuff and not smth GF did. (Again that's completely my opinion on things, nobody needs to agree with it)
like H.Ello said already GF basically said we will have luna instead of quna here and i can say only 1 thing on russia they have luna to and 1 reroll cost 6 luna instead of 3 quna on korea BUT on russia the prices of stuff in luna cube are x5 less on everything than on EU so expect the price of 1 reroll on eu to be 20--30 luna 500 luna box cost 499 aion coins=25-30 euros=almost 2-3 euros for 1 reroll of stats = any wallet warrior will face roll any of us with his perfect stats maybe it will take the same time to get the gear for everyone but the moment everyone will get the red gear any p2w group in dred runatorium will destroy everyone the moment they spend 500-1000 euros for perfect stats and i am not even talking about the same ppl getting purple transforms from p2w and eu will have it in p2w 100% it took russia 1 week to put purple transform in the wheel of destiny game
I got a transformation for 5kk on broker and it it was ancient (golden) one. Again, thx to those ppl, who buy stuff for real money and support the broker. A tip: buy Luna for kinah now, cuz it might turn more expensive in 6.2.
Im already getting disappointed with the amount of enchantment stones that we need, i cant imagine to work on all ultimate gear for pvp\pve its going to be impossible without real money since they keep updating the game quickly, basicly p2w is the same as it is now on 5.X it just cames on a different way like i expected sadly.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to get yourself set with pvp/pve gear solely through pvp/pve content? You'd think that's the case as the game is subscription based, but nope. Assuming that our publishers are equally as greedy as the developers, I can only presume that Aion 6.0 is going to be a monthly paid trial.
you mentioned about the goldpack... i feel sorry for people that play EU Aion .... i'm in the UK and I play on NA. we don't have goldpack... why do you guys waste time with EU Aion? honestly i think you should just move to NA and i know some people would say "ping is better on EU for EU players" but NA has plenty EU players. basicly.. stop wasting your money on EU and move to NA .. things are cheaper and easier... (just my opinion anyway) ok haters, you may reply to this
Good I'm not the only one thinking like that... Gold pack is a ridiculous shit, need to pay to unlock ESSENTIAL/BASIC things in a mmo such as trade? For real? Come to NA already
thanks for the heads up Sywo. i was thinking to come back to the game and while looking for info i bumped into your channel. i have to say you're doing a great job. about the p2w in rolling stats... it's disgusting and i can't say i didn't expect it... if they think i'm gonna pay money in such an old game that doesn't even have a great playerbase and its future is uncertain, they must be crazy. i'd buy cosmetics to support the game, but after hearing this, they don't deserve it. they should at least have given a way to ppl to earn them in game if they're subscribers. oh well.... that pretty much killed it for me. i may play a bit for old time's sake, but that's it. ncsoft=trash
@Sywo does gameforge have more player for pvp than ncsoft ( i am in asmo side) and is it worth it to be with gameforge in the best pvp server asmo side ( by that i mean more elyos than asmo)
If I heard right, people that jave Prime +15 are gonna get Yellow +10 (and those with +25 Purple +10). So my question is this: The gear we will get, is it the same as the Yellow/Purple we will need to enchant to +15 in order to get the Ultimate, or we have to take it from 0 and get some other Yellow gear, then make that Purple, then Red ?
No, the gear people will get (called exchange set), is as good as the crafted gear in 6.0, which is 2nd best in game. The one I show in the video, is the best, and the exchange set can't be upgraded to this version.
Sywo, you're doing gerat job. But, please, collect more info, before making videos. Quna can be put on broker in Korea. Although, In Russia (and in EU) Quna will be replaced with Luna. In order to fix the problem with untradeable Luna, they put it into tradeable boxes. So, there's a chance will see this p2w item on broker. And even if we don't, you can always buy it from someone via gift, using kinah ofc.
Extendables will still be used. In 6.0 I think that because you get pvp damage a bit from every single piece of gear, it makes less of a pvp damage loss overall now than it would have been in the past. I'll go compare the numbers for a full set of +15 ultimate gear to see just what % of your pvp damage you lose compared to what % you lose now with 80 abyss gear in 5.8 EDIT: you give up a lot more pvp stats to use an extendable in 6.0 compared to 5.8, but it'll probably still be worth it. Explained with numbers below.
So I added it all up using the data from aionpowerbook, and a full Ultimate-grade pvp set at +15 gives you 3592 pvp damage and 3666 pvp defense for a pvp weapon with pvp fuse. 3085 pvp damage and 3399 pvp defense for an extendable with pvp fuse. I don't know how 6.0's pvp damage and defense affect how much damage you deal and take, but by using an extendable you lose about 14% of your pvp damage and 7% of your pvp defense, as well as a little bit of base stats because 492 -> 473 attack and 4200 -> 4130 physical damage for switching from best pvp weapon to extendable. In 5.8 using 80 abyss gear, you lose 5.5% pvp attack to use an extendable. if you have all your accessories at +5 you have 74.8 -> 69.3. not a huge drop, definitely less than 14% drop. I'd say it is probably yes more costly to your damage output to use an extendable in 6.0 than in 5.0.
EDIT: deconfirmed by priestly below. feel free to read my musings with the knowledge that it is completely not possible. However, this brings a new question... a pvp weapon as a fuse in 6.0 does not seem to give very much benefit... only 176 pvp attack and defense, which is not much compared to the 3k pvp attack and defense you have from the rest of your gear. I also noticed that your fuse does not give a % of it's base physical damage boost to your main weapon. Sywo's Ultimate Devastator Staff has 4200 physical damage, but that is not boosted by his fuse by an extra 420 like base damage is boosted. I wonder, if it would be better to use an ultimate extendable with a 5.8 mythic pvp fuse and get 23% pvp attack stacking with your pvp physical damage? it really depends on how pvp physical damage interacts with pvp attack %. if it is (base attack X pvp %) + pvp damage, then it would be shit. however if it is (base attack + pvp damage) x pvp %, then it would actually be incredibly strong to use an 5.8 abyss weapon as a fuse in 6.0. If the right person reads this, I hope someone would test this out on a private server - see what does more damage in a full endgame gearset - 6.0 pvp fuse or 5.8 pvp fuse, and reply to this comment please and thanks! (I realize the odds of this happening are low but its nice to know)
Will pin this because others seem to be confused about the topic and it may help them. Plus your math matches my xcel sheet math and it's basically what I said in the vid only in numbers. Very good comments.
hi sywo a question in aion 6.0 or 6.5 that you recommend me to put the templar that manastone, attack or critic. both in pvp and in pvp. Thanks, I hope you can help me.
4:50 There is literally a p2w event running in Korea right now where you can purchase boxes that give all the mats needed to upgrade your gear plus major ancient crowns for the needed ap. 5:25 Combining two PvP weapons DOES NOT stack, the highest PvP Damage/Defense stat will apply much like it works now. This is why Koreans use a PvE undercombine on their PvP weapons, much easier and faster then upgrading two weapons from Ancient to Ultimate. What kind of private/hacked/test server are you playing on? Failing an enchantment from +10 forward drops the item back to +10. The enchant rate demonstrated in this video is way higher then it is on the official server. The weapon you are using is a double exchange staff, no way of obtaining those unless you were playing in Korea before 6.0 dropped. The area you are in is full of players on the Korean servers, you were the only person there in this video. You have over 900 ultimate grade PvP enchantment stones the most difficult stone to get in game. There is no way this is on the official servers so what gives. The information you are giving people is incorrect.
imgur.com/lYCn4dS From the Russian official server, pvp weapons don't stack. The information you are giving, from what I assume is Gamecoast private server, is incorrect.
Ok cool, maybe it was a different server setup. Will talk about it more anyway when the patch hits our EU/NA servers and we have the final version of things.
Time to reroll on FF14. Fuck Aion. Aion became shitty during 5.0+++. It started going downhill 4.3+, but wasent that bad till 5.0. From there it went from bad to worse to shitty.
well, i can say nice p2w. if i was complaining before now it's something really worse. That thing to use real money for have better stats (1 by 1) means will be impossible reach the level of someone going full p2w, and i can imagine it in aion eu... you won't do damage with low rng stats :(
So we shouldn't get your word when you said you loved this patch because it "fixes" things and it is the best patch ever etc, if this is the most p2w patch where you cannot even get end game to be good then I guess this is indeed what will finish off Aion. Not to mention the transformation system, if anything 6.0 will literally be the most disgusting gold digging patch ever. As if they didn't already kill the game enough, they want to destroy it. I do not understand how you make videos, loving the patch, saying it is the best, thinking it will revive the game and then you tell us that the most important stuff and most powerful are p2w only. What about the exchanged items from 5.8 +25 to the new gear, is that possible to upgrade them furthermore?
The more videos i watch the more i realize that GameForge is DEFINITELY going to mess it up.Their game is almost dead already 6.0 will be an influx of players but they will not be enough the game aligable for legit business.Аt the moment the only thing keeping this game afloat is the p2w wallet warriors.Not to mention that its gameforge's continuous practice to take games and make them p2w. Unfortunately they are gonna keep their ai(ds)on coins and shove a bunch of p2w items in there.Completed with the continious cucking of the people that are fine to just play slower so that they dont have to pay for a damn gold pack but they have to because free to play players cant use the goddamn auction house.I am sorry but there is little to no hope.
Hi Sywo. I saw what you are doing a lot but the game is a dead town. Especially, no nobody playing, cant level up. I'm Elyos, and cant level up. Only Asmo winning everyday. But when I play Lineage 2, it is a old mmorpg, alot playing, have friends, got siege, +legions, +++too many. Then back to Aion, only 5~10 Elyos finding, waiting and wasting time for 1 assassin Asmo. Sad game..
You can reach lvl66 solo in less than a week. What server are u playing? And what lvl? Low lvl is dead, most ppl lvl up on fast track, buf endgame maps have alot of players. Elys are chasing us in full groups and for instances u wait max 5 mins.
Ciao mi piacerei parlare con te per privato. I am playing atm on NA servers. You might know we still playing 5.8 hahaha. I have some questions I would like to ask to you. Do you have anyway to provide me any kind of direct messages to have a small conversation? Per cortesia. Non so si debo spendere kinah o forse e meglio rispiarmare e usarla per il nuovo patch. che alla fine non sappiamo ancora se sara 6.0 o 6.2 xD secondo il tuo video posso vedere che non mi merita la pena spendere i soldi perche il mio gear e ancora fragile quindi non ho nemeno tempo ne kinah per farlo adesso. quindi forse meglio di aspettare :S cosa mi recomandi a comprare o fare prima che viene il nuovo patch? grazie in anticipo. scusa il mio italiano sono spagnolo xD grazie per sempre fare questi video !!
and i was thinking the same last night when i played in PTS as i encounter an templar in arena against my chanter and i lost just because of the transformation because i had a lower one he barely did dmg lets say but the transformation made him win..
Gameforge is killing this game to the ground!:D,leave this game and come to guild wars 2 or just try to find other mmo to play,stop giving this company your money!! i hope they bankrupt,please god make that happen:)
You are one of they very few youtubers i watch for +-20mins keep it up bro
1 eur for 3 kuna? Sywo my friend... you are being way too optimistic here...
Perfect explanation yesterday i have watch this clip 6 times.
thank you so much for yet another informative 6.2 video. Gameforge needs to put these videos as a highlight sticky on the forums and the main page.
Chanter is love
I was willing to give then the benefit of the doubt and had high hopes for this patch. But if even Korea does this, i can only imagine what Gameforge will do... Ive seen enough, no more aion for me. Waste of time. Thanks for the vid Sywo, u saved me so much time
People who complains on coments about how people complains for being P2W.
We all know, I know as well that Aion tries his best for making us open our wallets. However, people seems to forget that there are servers running out, people working for character, scenes, maps, designs in game. People who works in NCSOFT office gets a salary every month. Do you really think people nowdays works for free? Would you keep up a game that stays free? What would you even get from that? Be realistic people please.
Aion just messed up many times the game system such as how much it fails when you enchant things and break the items. Totally agree. Or even the fact that PVP does not have the same emotion as it had before back on 3.0 when you could kill for ap or get scared to lose it when an asmo/elyo killed you. Now you die and it is not a big deal as it doesn't mean anything.
However, you all should keep in mind that every business is done to make money. Otherwise you better don't start a business. Shops are made to gain money not because they feel sorry for you not being able to eat something at the end of the day. No one cares about others is all about money, sadly.
However, if you are young and student and don't want to pay for a game or don't feel like paying for it. Which is reasonable, you still can have fun playing specially now that leveling went finally easy. Do camp quests, you can equip it. It's natural that you can not be the N1 just by playing normal. But you can have fun anyways and get descent gears.
PS: Reminds me of those who pays for a 2 star hotel and expect the 5 stars service! NO guys, NOPE.
The game went free to pay because it sucked.Now they are trying to milk their fanbase.
PvP attack and defense are grayed out when combining weapons. Just like your attack speed from the weapon. Does this mean I should combine pvp with pve ? Wich one should I put first ?
awesome hair cut Sywo
can you speak about arenas? are they still going to exist? 1 vs 1 arenas and 3 vs 3 etc? and is it still Limited to 1 per day? becouse aion as been only mmorpg that only lets you do 1 vs 1 arena 1 time per day and thats it lol did it change?
yea any idea about the pvp arenas in 6.2?
i would not be surprised if they deleted the arenas or made the tickets only acquirable throw the cash shop lmao
yea if they dont add arenas or give us more tickets the game just going to become boring over time dont mind pve untill i gear up but after i gear up i want to pvp and dueling all day is not really driving anyone towards the top becouse we all know the governor rank= the guy that pve´s all day and has no clue what even pvp means" when rank governor should mean the guy is top 1 arena player top 1 pvp player skill over anything else but ever since 4.0 patch governor is the guy that runs eternal bastion more then anyone else lmao
@@musiclegionfcr3726 go open world pvp then
Yeah man, all arenas are still there
Wow is this game still a thing? I remembered playing it over 6 years ago a lot. Very good memories with my guildmates from that time.
What would be nice to see is how to get the red enchantment stones. We know yellow and purple can be obtained in-game however about the red stones sources we don't know much.. care to say a bit about that?
Red pve stones VERY rare drop from new makarna.
Red pvp stones VERY rare reward from sieges.
In reality, Europe and North America, you will get them from p2w events and probably Christmas and Summer p2w events.
rip or should i say rip OFF haha . . . i hope gameforge take all their money the players that are crazy enough to stay >
I understand you but as I watch Na and EU closely I can say that EU has way more p2w events than NA so we will see how each publisher handles it. NA is closer to what they have in KR but has to make it a bit more western as not everybody are willing to spend $$.. Let's see and we will get surprised
Than HOW do you have so many? You have Christmas every day?
Sounds bad, but does legendary stone also keep the level in enchanting upon failure? If you have item at +13, and you fail with legendary stone, is it still 13 or back to 10?
Love your videos! Can you please share you skill chains? You only have a few skills on your bar and I would love to know your chains for chanter!
Best Chanel Aion.
@sywo with 6.2 GF launch do u plan stream live on twitch.tv or mayby on youtube?
Actualy ur not forced to buy anything with real money. Im full 80+20 veteran, without paying a single euro. Of course for a new player things are harder. Cash shop coins are allso "treadable" if u have kinah and a seller to trust, if quna can be gifted, ppl will fiind a way to get them for "free".
Nice and very informative video! I wanna ask you personally, i play 3 classes right now in 5.8 and I’m thinking on focusing one toon when 6.0 comes in NA. Which among these 3 classes are being boosted in pvp so far in 6.0? Chanter, SW and SM? Since you play Chanter in KR, I’ve heard chanters are beast in pvp. SW are still OP and SMs are ok?
Yeah Chanter is so Godlike I HAD to upload a video about it. Basically I have only lost 3 duels out of 100 on that class, and it was the first time playing it.
Bard and SM.. meh, dueled many bards and 2 sms, lost one duel with those classes vs a bard coz of mana issues.
Sywo thanks for replying back. I appreciate your input and opinion. I will make chanter as my main then when 6.0 hits NA :) keep up the good work on updating is all about Aion and stuff ❤️
So it's better to have PvP+PvP than PvE+PvP as fused weapons? Great video and helpful as always Sywo!
Hello. Could you please give me one expert opinion on pvp? Because I don't know what to do. We have still 6th aion version, waiting for 7.0 I dont know how long more. I have full legendary pvp set from camps all +6, and full ultimate noble aerot set. The question is.. How much more my aerot set is weaker than ultimate camps set? Is it worth to make camps set ultimate if I have noble aerot? Should I enchant noble aerot to +15 or go back to camps set, enchant and make it ultimate? I would be very gratful for your opinion
Man, I love Aion, but I have a bad feeling about this patch in EU. Really bad, considering the numbers Aion has these days.
So they have deleted everyone's gear or something? My rare items from 1.0...
Funny how 10 days ago you were claming "best patch ever, no pay 2 win at all" and now, after 10 days, you're here doing a video shaking your wallet cause you realized that what NCsoft told us about "making aion great again" was just a sea of LIES
Not sure who's video u watched 10 days ago but it wasn't me
You even said it in this same video that this is the best patch and then you told us this is the most disgusting p2w feature that is forced.
These are the BEST items you can get and you need to fine tune them with real money. Please aion 6.0 is getting more garbage.
@@SuperWigMaker Yeah and im gonna say it again, great patch compared to the shit AION has been in the past 2 years.
You guys dont seem to get it :D Its great but very p2w.
how I wish I could post clips like on twitch
Have you noticed that pvp/pve stats under the line doesn't stack in eu? Is it a bug?
make a video how you farm abyss points at 6.0
What are your skill chains? I still have way more buttons that I probably don't need.
I left this game like 2 years ago, still very p2w? Thanks!
Gameforge knows his/her playerbase pretty good. They know alot of people will draw their wallet to get the perfect stats. Sure alot of people will complain about the P2W. But they have been doing that for a long time now. As long as people are paying, they wont change.
I have done all camps / dreg / runat / siege and i still do not have 1 single fragment of fighting spirit. where do you those from ?
Thx for the video, btw where/how to obtain ultimate stones? i've been playing for 2 weeks and don't know much
Its not clean for me, after 6.x the p2w is more than now? Or just simple p2w same with 5.x with gf?
Whenever I hear +30... I can't help but think "dang, how much have you payed greedforge for this?"
Really cool video well made :) but does the same format apply to pve gear?
Best pve gear is from dundeons but the p2w applies
Did they change how to get abyss points in 6.x? How long would it take to farm enough points to upgrade from yellow to purple for example? Thanks
as u know Gameforge can disable that P2W part as they said we wont have quna (aka Luna)?) instead we get other system, what? we know probaly next Davea tavern video. But who knows.. mayby GF thinks that aion shop wont be enough to get some "cash" to them? Mayby they has it disabled for 6.2 but activates it on 6.5 as its required? Who knows what they will do.
NA got the gear exchange rates 2 weeks ago. It's on our forums.
@Sywo can u give me a bit of advice ? im buying pvp staff, can i already combine it with another pvp and after that upgrade to + 15 or should i first upgrade 2 of them to + 15 and after making them purple , Combine ?
Are minions still stupid broken in 6.0? This sort of weapon gambling house is not encouraging in the slightest for this patch...
Hi sywo a very important question is the kinah cap in 6.2 still 113m ??
very good question, in Korea it's more, but what will be in EU and NA, still to be decided by our publishers.
At first thanks Sywo again for the information you keep giving us :D! so in the german GF Forum they just said that we will not get Quna (written like this?). The whole Quna system will not arrive in the EU version so we need to wait if gf does something similiar to reroll certain stats or if they just ''delete'' it and we won't have the option to reroll one single stat. I personally don't think that this kind of pay2win will make his way to EU because it's not how GF tries to get their money. Obviously there needs to be some sort of advantage for people who pay this game, I mean it's their work they need to get money somehow and gold packs aren't even close enough to provide them a break even point. So far they tried to get money out of luck games. Let's see if we maybe get some sort of Scroll which can reroll a single stat and you can get the scroll in some Events where you can get a big advantage by buying stuff for the event from the shop BUT so far there was never NOT an option for us to get everything we need actually in game. For example the Daeva Care in EU which gave us a healthy amount of allmighty enchantment stones without paying a single euro. Sywo do you think there might be a chance that this will actually be kinda better in the EU version or do you think GF will make this even worse? I always want to stay positive and personally don't think that GF is a that bad publisher. Just look at NC in Blade and Soul, you could buy the mats to enchant your weapon in the shop on a daily base- that's awfull and way more pay2win than all these event luck games from GF where the most people don't even have luck. The pay2win problem in 5.x was due the tradeability of all stuff and not smth GF did. (Again that's completely my opinion on things, nobody needs to agree with it)
We'll have Luna instead, idk why GF is still trying to keep that in secret.
so we will actually have a huge rng or a pay2win thing with the stat rerolling...
like H.Ello said already GF basically said we will have luna instead of quna here and i can say only 1 thing on russia they have luna to and 1 reroll cost 6 luna instead of 3 quna on korea
BUT on russia the prices of stuff in luna cube are x5 less on everything than on EU so expect the price of 1 reroll on eu to be 20--30 luna 500 luna box cost 499 aion coins=25-30 euros=almost 2-3 euros for 1 reroll of stats = any wallet warrior will face roll any of us with his perfect stats maybe it will take the same time to get the gear for everyone but the moment everyone will get the red gear any p2w group in dred runatorium will destroy everyone the moment they spend 500-1000 euros for perfect stats and i am not even talking about the same ppl getting purple transforms from p2w and eu will have it in p2w 100% it took russia 1 week to put purple transform in the wheel of destiny game
I got a transformation for 5kk on broker and it it was ancient (golden) one. Again, thx to those ppl, who buy stuff for real money and support the broker. A tip: buy Luna for kinah now, cuz it might turn more expensive in 6.2.
Via gift. Or, if we're talking about 6.2, just ask to seller to put luna box on broker and buy it.
I was excited about a possible restart on Aion, the pay to win aspect has already turned me off, GG
Im already getting disappointed with the amount of enchantment stones that we need, i cant imagine to work on all ultimate gear for pvp\pve its going to be impossible without real money since they keep updating the game quickly, basicly p2w is the same as it is now on 5.X it just cames on a different way like i expected sadly.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to get yourself set with pvp/pve gear solely through pvp/pve content?
You'd think that's the case as the game is subscription based, but nope.
Assuming that our publishers are equally as greedy as the developers, I can only presume that Aion 6.0 is going to be a monthly paid trial.
you mentioned about the goldpack... i feel sorry for people that play EU Aion .... i'm in the UK and I play on NA. we don't have goldpack... why do you guys waste time with EU Aion? honestly i think you should just move to NA and i know some people would say "ping is better on EU for EU players" but NA has plenty EU players. basicly.. stop wasting your money on EU and move to NA .. things are cheaper and easier... (just my opinion anyway) ok haters, you may reply to this
Actually YOU are the one hating here, lol. Also all regions will have gp/premium membership(which is the same) at 6.0 but w.e
Good I'm not the only one thinking like that... Gold pack is a ridiculous shit, need to pay to unlock ESSENTIAL/BASIC things in a mmo such as trade? For real? Come to NA already
thanks for the heads up Sywo. i was thinking to come back to the game and while looking for info i bumped into your channel. i have to say you're doing a great job.
about the p2w in rolling stats... it's disgusting and i can't say i didn't expect it...
if they think i'm gonna pay money in such an old game that doesn't even have a great playerbase and its future is uncertain, they must be crazy. i'd buy cosmetics to support the game, but after hearing this, they don't deserve it. they should at least have given a way to ppl to earn them in game if they're subscribers. oh well.... that pretty much killed it for me. i may play a bit for old time's sake, but that's it. ncsoft=trash
@Sywo does gameforge have more player for pvp than ncsoft ( i am in asmo side) and is it worth it to be with gameforge in the best pvp server asmo side ( by that i mean more elyos than asmo)
Could you make a video about how endgame is like in 6.0?
Where can you get the fragments of fighting expect the disenchantment of pvp items???? just got 2 from an normal garnisson gearpart
sywo seems that in aion europe you cant stack pvp stats or pve when you fuse weapons.you know anything about it ?
its true, in our version u can't stat pvp or pve stats
If I heard right, people that jave Prime +15 are gonna get Yellow +10 (and those with +25 Purple +10). So my question is this:
The gear we will get, is it the same as the Yellow/Purple we will need to enchant to +15 in order to get the Ultimate, or we have to take it from 0 and get some other Yellow gear, then make that Purple, then Red ?
Have* (sorry :P)
No, the gear people will get (called exchange set), is as good as the crafted gear in 6.0, which is 2nd best in game.
The one I show in the video, is the best, and the exchange set can't be upgraded to this version.
15:00 am glad we have a voice
"Death to Sun Rats Elyos!"
I aleady decided to quit AION on your transformation video, but the pay-to-win fact here for tuning your equip would have made me quit too :D
This suck I can’t play the game PIN number never promp to register and I can’t get my old account haven’t played since it came out assault on balurea
I forgot to ask can you give me the link to the Aion community discord you mentioned in a previous video?
hey man, discordapp.com/invite/KAywSzt
what is best cpu for playing aion .. i'm thinking about i5 8500 ? is it good ?
Sywo, you're doing gerat job. But, please, collect more info, before making videos. Quna can be put on broker in Korea. Although, In Russia (and in EU) Quna will be replaced with Luna. In order to fix the problem with untradeable Luna, they put it into tradeable boxes. So, there's a chance will see this p2w item on broker. And even if we don't, you can always buy it from someone via gift, using kinah ofc.
Maybe it's gonna be tradable in EU, maybe not, nobody knows.
Regardless, buying p2w items with your kinah doesn't make it OK.
Extendables will still be used. In 6.0 I think that because you get pvp damage a bit from every single piece of gear, it makes less of a pvp damage loss overall now than it would have been in the past. I'll go compare the numbers for a full set of +15 ultimate gear to see just what % of your pvp damage you lose compared to what % you lose now with 80 abyss gear in 5.8
EDIT: you give up a lot more pvp stats to use an extendable in 6.0 compared to 5.8, but it'll probably still be worth it. Explained with numbers below.
So I added it all up using the data from aionpowerbook, and a full Ultimate-grade pvp set at +15 gives you
3592 pvp damage and 3666 pvp defense for a pvp weapon with pvp fuse.
3085 pvp damage and 3399 pvp defense for an extendable with pvp fuse.
I don't know how 6.0's pvp damage and defense affect how much damage you deal and take, but by using an extendable you lose about 14% of your pvp damage and 7% of your pvp defense, as well as a little bit of base stats because 492 -> 473 attack and 4200 -> 4130 physical damage for switching from best pvp weapon to extendable.
In 5.8 using 80 abyss gear, you lose 5.5% pvp attack to use an extendable. if you have all your accessories at +5 you have 74.8 -> 69.3. not a huge drop, definitely less than 14% drop.
I'd say it is probably yes more costly to your damage output to use an extendable in 6.0 than in 5.0.
EDIT: deconfirmed by priestly below. feel free to read my musings with the knowledge that it is completely not possible.
However, this brings a new question... a pvp weapon as a fuse in 6.0 does not seem to give very much benefit... only 176 pvp attack and defense, which is not much compared to the 3k pvp attack and defense you have from the rest of your gear. I also noticed that your fuse does not give a % of it's base physical damage boost to your main weapon. Sywo's Ultimate Devastator Staff has 4200 physical damage, but that is not boosted by his fuse by an extra 420 like base damage is boosted. I wonder, if it would be better to use an ultimate extendable with a 5.8 mythic pvp fuse and get 23% pvp attack stacking with your pvp physical damage? it really depends on how pvp physical damage interacts with pvp attack %. if it is (base attack X pvp %) + pvp damage, then it would be shit. however if it is (base attack + pvp damage) x pvp %, then it would actually be incredibly strong to use an 5.8 abyss weapon as a fuse in 6.0.
If the right person reads this, I hope someone would test this out on a private server - see what does more damage in a full endgame gearset - 6.0 pvp fuse or 5.8 pvp fuse, and reply to this comment please and thanks! (I realize the odds of this happening are low but its nice to know)
Will pin this because others seem to be confused about the topic and it may help them.
Plus your math matches my xcel sheet math and it's basically what I said in the vid only in numbers. Very good comments.
Old 5.8(and lower) weapons can not be combined with any weapons from 6.0+
thanks. that's good to know. I won't bother trying to farm an 80a GS then lol.
u already have 2b kinah isnt a new convertion kinah? wtf
i bet you cant set a higher fov and thus a ton of people wont be able to play
did you quit this game?
hi sywo a question in aion 6.0 or 6.5 that you recommend me to put the templar that manastone, attack or critic. both in pvp and in pvp. Thanks, I hope you can help me.
Crit all the way man. You need so much crit stat to reach a decent 40% chance.
How do you get enchantment stones?
love u more then GF
What weapon do you use, anomos extend or pvp?
how about the armor and acces bro?
what aion are you playing Sywo ??
and what is with the skins from the weapon when i upgrade???
I wonder if I'll ever be able to gear up as a full free to play player in Europe. Well, probably aside of the new sub thing of course.
how can we get ?
How did u get this amuount of red stones on pbe?
Zeze Can We Join To Your Guild I Need Someone Skills for my Character
I was waiting for those downsides so hard, that i’m not even disapointed
4:50 There is literally a p2w event running in Korea right now where you can purchase boxes that give all the mats needed to upgrade your gear plus major ancient crowns for the needed ap.
5:25 Combining two PvP weapons DOES NOT stack, the highest PvP Damage/Defense stat will apply much like it works now. This is why Koreans use a PvE undercombine on their PvP weapons, much easier and faster then upgrading two weapons from Ancient to Ultimate.
What kind of private/hacked/test server are you playing on? Failing an enchantment from +10 forward drops the item back to +10. The enchant rate demonstrated in this video is way higher then it is on the official server. The weapon you are using is a double exchange staff, no way of obtaining those unless you were playing in Korea before 6.0 dropped. The area you are in is full of players on the Korean servers, you were the only person there in this video. You have over 900 ultimate grade PvP enchantment stones the most difficult stone to get in game.
There is no way this is on the official servers so what gives. The information you are giving people is incorrect.
imgur.com/lYCn4dS
From the Russian official server, pvp weapons don't stack. The information you are giving, from what I assume is Gamecoast private server, is incorrect.
Ok cool, maybe it was a different server setup. Will talk about it more anyway when the patch hits our EU/NA servers and we have the final version of things.
even when i used to play this like from p2p until 4.0 , i played NOTAION *HALLELUJA* 90% of the time
Time to reroll on FF14. Fuck Aion. Aion became shitty during 5.0+++. It started going downhill 4.3+, but wasent that bad till 5.0. From there it went from bad to worse to shitty.
cuz, we need to find a private 6.2 server probable because we will have to spend a lot of money in offical server
to be realy good. So sad :c
can i'm combine new wepon with old wepon ?
Bro. This is not right about pvp+pvp. Look your stats, only 1 work.
well, i can say nice p2w. if i was complaining before now it's something really worse. That thing to use real money for have better stats (1 by 1) means will be impossible reach the level of someone going full p2w, and i can imagine it in aion eu... you won't do damage with low rng stats :(
I just got tired of waiting for aion 6.0. I am already in BDO. this pvp and graphics are beyond
even more p2w than aion
Is it hard to get a gear on 6.0?
And GF said we wont have Quna but the stuff will be in different way...so we will see :D
We won't have quna and the quna features will be available in a different way - this doesnt sound like just name change :)
But you didnt quited AION? LOL
Uuuugggghhhh.
I want expandables pvp on my sin ;(
So we shouldn't get your word when you said you loved this patch because it "fixes" things and it is the best patch ever etc, if this is the most p2w patch where you cannot even get end game to be good then I guess this is indeed what will finish off Aion.
Not to mention the transformation system, if anything 6.0 will literally be the most disgusting gold digging patch ever. As if they didn't already kill the game enough, they want to destroy it.
I do not understand how you make videos, loving the patch, saying it is the best, thinking it will revive the game and then you tell us that the most important stuff and most powerful are p2w only.
What about the exchanged items from 5.8 +25 to the new gear, is that possible to upgrade them furthermore?
mou fainetai katalavan oti paei gia kleisimo to game kai valane mpros full armegma mexri to anapofefxto.
The more videos i watch the more i realize that GameForge is DEFINITELY going to mess it up.Their game is almost dead already 6.0 will be an influx of players but they will not be enough the game aligable for legit business.Аt the moment the only thing keeping this game afloat is the p2w wallet warriors.Not to mention that its gameforge's continuous practice to take games and make them p2w. Unfortunately they are gonna keep their ai(ds)on coins and shove a bunch of p2w items in there.Completed with the continious cucking of the people that are fine to just play slower so that they dont have to pay for a damn gold pack but they have to because free to play players cant use the goddamn auction house.I am sorry but there is little to no hope.
Gameforge will fuck us 😂
Dios, estás las 24/7 o cómo. XDDDDDD
este perro de donde saca esas piedras :/
pause video . check wallet . unistall aion
Hi Sywo. I saw what you are doing a lot but the game is a dead town. Especially, no nobody playing, cant level up. I'm Elyos, and cant level up. Only Asmo winning everyday. But when I play Lineage 2, it is a old mmorpg, alot playing, have friends, got siege, +legions, +++too many. Then back to Aion, only 5~10 Elyos finding, waiting and wasting time for 1 assassin Asmo. Sad game..
What server do you play on l2?
Hi, the server is Chronos. My toon is call "MrTemplar".
You can reach lvl66 solo in less than a week. What server are u playing? And what lvl? Low lvl is dead, most ppl lvl up on fast track, buf endgame maps have alot of players. Elys are chasing us in full groups and for instances u wait max 5 mins.
Thks. But my toon is lvl75 Sorc. And I'm a solo everyday lol.
Thanks ! :)
Ciao mi piacerei parlare con te per privato. I am playing atm on NA servers. You might know we still playing 5.8 hahaha. I have some questions I would like to ask to you. Do you have anyway to provide me any kind of direct messages to have a small conversation? Per cortesia. Non so si debo spendere kinah o forse e meglio rispiarmare e usarla per il nuovo patch. che alla fine non sappiamo ancora se sara 6.0 o 6.2 xD
secondo il tuo video posso vedere che non mi merita la pena spendere i soldi perche il mio gear e ancora fragile quindi non ho nemeno tempo ne kinah per farlo adesso. quindi forse meglio di aspettare :S
cosa mi recomandi a comprare o fare prima che viene il nuovo patch? grazie in anticipo. scusa il mio italiano sono spagnolo xD
grazie per sempre fare questi video !!
what a trash patch my god, p2w through the roof. Keep in mind that this will be nothing in comparison to the transformations level of p2w
Transformations shouldn't even be a thing. I'm honestly tempted to uninstall the game if these transformations become a big deal.
and i was thinking the same last night when i played in PTS as i encounter an templar in arena against my chanter and i lost just because of the transformation because i had a lower one he barely did dmg lets say but the transformation made him win..
Time to reroll to Bless Online? xd
Kappa
Bless is absolute thrash, I wasted my $$$ on that sh!t.
Jaaaaa ?
so sad =( ...
Gameforge is killing this game to the ground!:D,leave this game and come to guild wars 2 or just try to find other mmo to play,stop giving this company your money!! i hope they bankrupt,please god make that happen:)
ok. i refuse to play this p2w trash.
People still waste time n money on this stupid game? This game died after 1.9...