We have been demoing and testing 2 mower brands for our next purchase. This video tells what our decision was and why? What factors influenced our decision.
I run the VRide 32. Though most of my lawns are flat, the only drawback is the narrow tires, but you learn how to be efficient without damaging the lawn, even in wet conditions. After rains or heavy dew, there is no comparison. After running through 20 plus lawns a day, I'm glad I bought the SCAG. It just feels like a different class of machine.
I run a SCAG 36" and and love it . It has the same tires that Toro has. I think you are comparing two different animals there. I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Toro but you can't compare it to a 32" machine. It's like comparing a mini bike to to full fledge motorcycle. . Any way that said , you bought a good machine. Did it cure your gate problem ? I have gates my 36 just barely goes through . Congrats on your new equipment .
I immediately caught that too. My thought was of course you can put a wider tire on a 40 versus a 32. I sincerely value the guy sharing his experience as this is helping me research but I didn't feel it was a true equal comparison
I'm just a homeowner with 3 yards to cut and I completely agree with your complaint on the tire width. The 36" V-Ride 2 may be a better comparison to that Toro as it comes with 8" wide tires. BUT it's still too heavy at 800+ pounds not including my weight for them, at least on our soil. I swapped the stock wheels and tires out for some 10" wide tires and am much happier with it. Downside is the tires stick out past the deck a little bit on each side but I can deal with that instead of rutting up my yard. Still have to be mindful of the conditions if it's any kind of wet though. Good review!
Hi there and thanks for your input. I havent unloaded the Scag yet its just been sitting in the barn as I too was contemplating looking for some wider tires, and dealing with the lack of deck overhang. Glad it worked out for you, it gives me some hope!!
Great job showing and telling, learning I am thanks again for showing telling. Toro looks like the winner to me to, cause improved more on the lawnmower. Thanks again for showing telling have a good one day see ya on the next video see ya bye.
i dont know if its the same up north but if you are doing residential you will not fit in the back of 40 percent of the gates with anything over a 36, with a 36 you will fit in about 97 percent, 32 about 99.9 percent
Good review. I bought a grandstand yesterday. Kind of weird to operate after using nothing but walkers the last 5 years. It’s built solid tho and The cut is excellent. Thanks again.
yeah the learning curve is a bit but the end result is awesome isnt it?!?! The Walkers still have their place in our fleet for now but the Toros have been everyones go to mower since we got them. Thanks for watching and your input
Yes thank you I understand, maybe I didn't speak my thought correctly I've used Scags with the Velocity decks and would put the toro up against it anytime, that's all I was trying to say. The Toro really surprised me with the quality of cut on the turfs we use it on, results may be different on northern taller fescues, I can't speak for that but the short tight southern grasses here, its right on par with the Velocity decks. Thanks for your input and watching
This review was not fair and not correct. The Toro was a bigger size deck then Scag 32. Both company offer a 36 deck and the scag offers a bigger tire on their 36 Vride. You mention the wrong type of deck on the Scag. You did not even come close to taking about the Mechanical side of both units. You did not talk about the engines nor the other main part of both mowers. Do not get me wrong the Toro is a good product but this review was not so good!
This review sucked. The 36” vride absolutely destroys this toro junk. Why the hell is he comparing a mower that is much smaller than the toro? That is crazy. I know one thing for certain, the vride is hands down the best mower on the planet, nothing comes close to it. PERIOD
Some gates in our area the 42 walkers just don’t fit by a little bit because they are 42 gates but have 1 inch stopper trim pieces the gates close against. Ohhh so close but just don’t make it. Also the yards are getting smaller and I wanted something with no motor hanging out the back. We still have and use 4 Walkers but we needed to adjust our mowers to our changing house home plots, communities are jamming more house and tighter yards! Thank you!
You are comparing a 40” mower to a 32”? You have lost your damn mind. The scag vride crushes a toro in every possible way. Maybe you should have at least compared the 36” scag instead of a 32”. The Scag is much more comfortable as well. I have a 61” vride 2 with 37hp Kawasaki engine and it is absolutely the most amazing lawn care machine I have ever been on in 15 years of business, running every machine possible. It’s so comfortable and I don’t feel like I’ve been beat to death at the end of the day. It also stripes better than any mower on the market, I can go on and on as to why the vride is the best mower in the world, nothing comes close.
Funny your video comes up in my feed now lol, I just took delivery of a 48" Grandstand last week! They're awesome machines hey. Found yourself a new sub from Australia ;D
Hello there I bought the same mower last year me & my crew love it all of my mowers are Toro I own Toro 36 inch walk behind, 36 inch Grandstand 48 inch Z Master and 2 21 inch commercial push mowers
Grandstand was my choice as well. In the past I needed to switch between my wide-area mower and riding mover to handle my own lawn. I really love being able to have one tool that can do both. I'm not a professional, but I got a 40" Toro Grandstand because it justified itself by replacing 2-3 mowers. Maintaining a large lawn is real easy now ;)
Problem with that Toro grandstands is that anyone who weighs over 300 plus pounds cannot use it due to standing platform not being strong enough to support us big 340 lb guys.
I do think it was worth noting the cost of both... lol I think most people will say Toro is better but your looking at a price difference of $2,000 for just about everything Toro compared to scag products
Help? This review sucks. The 36” scag destroys this toro junk in every category. The problem is he compared a 32” vride to a 40” toro. The toro is garbage
Toro is absolute garbage. He is comparing a 40” toro junk to a 32” scag. Let him compare the 40” toro garbage to a 36” scag vride. The 36” will destroy this toro junk in every single category, it isn’t even a close contesr
Thanks for the video I totally agree with all your comments what size deck do you think I should get The 40 the 48 or the 52 I’m just thinking this is easier to teach new operators then having him hop on a walker diesel 48 inch deck and crash into everything with the backend, what should I do for a shoot blocker so the grass don’t go flying everywhere Around mulch beds cars etc.
Rich Scott we all absolutely love the 40 Toro Grand Stand. We have the mulch kits installed now, tried a QuikChute blocker that was absolutely horrible and left a huge mess. Best bet is the Toro Mulching kit but leave off the flat plate that goes where the chute is it clogs with grass and leaves a clump line on the right side. Taking the plate off doesn’t hurt because you still have the round added on plate under the deck which blocks the chute opening. The flat plate you take off is merely secondary. If you have more questions let me know I can send you a quick video of what we did👍
@@Oxford_Lawn you are wrong, the SCAG will outlast and outperform that toro garbage by a long shot. I guess you are kinda right in a sense, the SCAG is a Mercedes, that toro garbage is a Ford Pinto. You can’t compare the two mowers, the toro is not even in the same universe. Compare the 36” vride to that toro garbage and see what happens. The vride destroys it in every category. You can’t compare two machines that is not even close. The toro is a very bad machine made for home owners. No real landscaping company will purchase that junk and you won’t see any company with that junk on one of their trailers
I've come to think that when you are going to a 36" or smaller mower you are better off with a walk-behind. I've run both on the same yards and was quicker with the WB because of better traction. Less fatigue using the stand-on for sure so I guess it depends how often you are using it. Nice video btw, it was a good honest review.
@@Deltadawgthat sounds like the opinion of someone who hasn’t had a 36 stander, or maybe you live somewhere with no hills. Too much weight on skinny tires. OP is 100% correct, 36 or smaller, walk behind is better.
I mean scag is good I really want 32 stand on mower scag because it better than walk behind 32 personally I would go with scag 32 Stan on mower not big fan of toro I feel like the tire are so big wide ehh scag I like because it has the mud flaps both sides and toro doesn’t have it I nor scag has good orange color go for scag💪.
I've been using a clients Toro 3000 series on a five acre block for 4 yrs now and have appreciated the ability of the Toro. So much so I got the 52"Grandstand since the decks pretty much the same, turbo force deck, . Absolutely love this machine, from the first yard to the last one today. As expected the Turbo force deck does it's thing very well. Oh i did the first oil change filter change today at 12 hrs. Easy to get to everything 😜😅. It was a largish expense but Toro finance made it almost the same repayment I was on with the Raptor. So not a real big outlay for such a fine machine. These are just getting noticed now in Australia. We're lazy and want to sit down mostly. But my back and knees have been really good since working with the stand on.
I run the VRide 32. Though most of my lawns are flat, the only drawback is the narrow tires, but you learn how to be efficient without damaging the lawn, even in wet conditions. After rains or heavy dew, there is no comparison. After running through 20 plus lawns a day, I'm glad I bought the SCAG. It just feels like a different class of machine.
I run a SCAG 36" and and love it . It has the same tires that Toro has. I think you are comparing two different animals there. I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Toro but you can't compare it to a 32" machine. It's like comparing a mini bike to to full fledge motorcycle. . Any way that said , you bought a good machine. Did it cure your gate problem ? I have gates my 36 just barely goes through . Congrats on your new equipment .
Exactly
Came here to say this. Of course the tires on the 32" are smaller, they're the same size on all 32" mowers.
why are you comparing a 32 to a 40 why not the 36 to a 40?
My exact thought. Scag has a 36 cut model. MY son bought one. He lives in Jacksonville fl.
I immediately caught that too. My thought was of course you can put a wider tire on a 40 versus a 32. I sincerely value the guy sharing his experience as this is helping me research but I didn't feel it was a true equal comparison
Because he knows the 36” will destroy that toro garbage in every single category
I'm just a homeowner with 3 yards to cut and I completely agree with your complaint on the tire width. The 36" V-Ride 2 may be a better comparison to that Toro as it comes with 8" wide tires. BUT it's still too heavy at 800+ pounds not including my weight for them, at least on our soil. I swapped the stock wheels and tires out for some 10" wide tires and am much happier with it. Downside is the tires stick out past the deck a little bit on each side but I can deal with that instead of rutting up my yard. Still have to be mindful of the conditions if it's any kind of wet though. Good review!
Hi there and thanks for your input. I havent unloaded the Scag yet its just been sitting in the barn as I too was contemplating looking for some wider tires, and dealing with the lack of deck overhang. Glad it worked out for you, it gives me some hope!!
Great job showing and telling, learning I am thanks again for showing telling. Toro looks like the winner to me to, cause improved more on the lawnmower. Thanks again for showing telling have a good one day see ya on the next video see ya bye.
i dont know if its the same up north but if you are doing residential you will not fit in the back of 40 percent of the gates with anything over a 36, with a 36 you will fit in about 97 percent, 32 about 99.9 percent
Good review. I bought a grandstand yesterday. Kind of weird to operate after using nothing but walkers the last 5 years. It’s built solid tho and The cut is excellent. Thanks again.
yeah the learning curve is a bit but the end result is awesome isnt it?!?! The Walkers still have their place in our fleet for now but the Toros have been everyones go to mower since we got them. Thanks for watching and your input
Velocity deck starts on 48"+. That's the advantage.
Yes thank you I understand, maybe I didn't speak my thought correctly I've used Scags with the Velocity decks and would put the toro up against it anytime, that's all I was trying to say. The Toro really surprised me with the quality of cut on the turfs we use it on, results may be different on northern taller fescues, I can't speak for that but the short tight southern grasses here, its right on par with the Velocity decks. Thanks for your input and watching
This review was not fair and not correct. The Toro was a bigger size deck then Scag 32. Both company offer a 36 deck and the scag offers a bigger tire on their 36 Vride. You mention the wrong type of deck on the Scag. You did not even come close to taking about the Mechanical side of both units. You did not talk about the engines nor the other main part of both mowers. Do not get me wrong the Toro is a good product but this review was not so good!
I agree!
I agree also
This review sucked. The 36” vride absolutely destroys this toro junk. Why the hell is he comparing a mower that is much smaller than the toro? That is crazy. I know one thing for certain, the vride is hands down the best mower on the planet, nothing comes close to it. PERIOD
Why you think they turned off the video rating...
Exactly, anyone thinking a toro is even in the same realm as Scag doesn't cut for a living
I've had both. Your observations are correct. Was the walker 42" deck too wide?
Some gates in our area the 42 walkers just don’t fit by a little bit because they are 42 gates but have 1 inch stopper trim pieces the gates close against. Ohhh so close but just don’t make it. Also the yards are getting smaller and I wanted something with no motor hanging out the back. We still have and use 4 Walkers but we needed to adjust our mowers to our changing house home plots, communities are jamming more house and tighter yards! Thank you!
You are comparing a 40” mower to a 32”? You have lost your damn mind. The scag vride crushes a toro in every possible way. Maybe you should have at least compared the 36” scag instead of a 32”. The Scag is much more comfortable as well. I have a 61” vride 2 with 37hp Kawasaki engine and it is absolutely the most amazing lawn care machine I have ever been on in 15 years of business, running every machine possible. It’s so comfortable and I don’t feel like I’ve been beat to death at the end of the day. It also stripes better than any mower on the market, I can go on and on as to why the vride is the best mower in the world, nothing comes close.
Funny your video comes up in my feed now lol, I just took delivery of a 48" Grandstand last week! They're awesome machines hey. Found yourself a new sub from Australia ;D
well congrats onthe purchase and thank you, just goes to show big brother and google are always listening ;)
Hello there I bought the same mower last year me & my crew love it all of my mowers are Toro I own Toro 36 inch walk behind, 36 inch Grandstand 48 inch Z Master and 2 21 inch commercial push mowers
Grandstand was my choice as well. In the past I needed to switch between my wide-area mower and riding mover to handle my own lawn. I really love being able to have one tool that can do both. I'm not a professional, but I got a 40" Toro Grandstand because it justified itself by replacing 2-3 mowers. Maintaining a large lawn is real easy now ;)
Problem with that Toro grandstands is that anyone who weighs over 300 plus pounds cannot use it due to standing platform not being strong enough to support us big 340 lb guys.
I have had the Scag 32" and i sold it... I agree with you
I do think it was worth noting the cost of both... lol I think most people will say Toro is better but your looking at a price difference of $2,000 for just about everything Toro compared to scag products
Very valid point
This has been a great help for me, thanks mate.
Help? This review sucks. The 36” scag destroys this toro junk in every category. The problem is he compared a 32” vride to a 40” toro. The toro is garbage
Thanks for sharing
your right, great points .. the ride is great
I love the Toro machines...spot on review
Thanks 👍
i do think the scag should have like a 40 or a 42 though
I think all companies should make a 40 and 42. I think they don't because they want you to buy a 36 and 52 or 32 and 48.
Great video!
Thank you for watching👍
I have a 36 grandstand. A huge problem that I have is the platform breaks at least once a year
Where does it break? the pivot point or a weld somplace?
@@TomOB767 at the pivot point.
Sorry but this video was boring. I like the Scag more.
You can't compare a 32 to a 40 you have to compare same size
Because he knows the scag 36” vride will destroy this toro garbage in every category
Toro is not even on Skaggs level! 🤨
Toro is absolute garbage. He is comparing a 40” toro junk to a 32” scag. Let him compare the 40” toro garbage to a 36” scag vride. The 36” will destroy this toro junk in every single category, it isn’t even a close contesr
I have exmarks but this isn’t a fair comparison 32-40? I believe scag has a 36”
Thanks for the video I totally agree with all your comments what size deck do you think I should get The 40 the 48 or the 52 I’m just thinking this is easier to teach new operators then having him hop on a walker diesel 48 inch deck and crash into everything with the backend, what should I do for a shoot blocker so the grass don’t go flying everywhere Around mulch beds cars etc.
Rich Scott we all absolutely love the 40 Toro Grand Stand. We have the mulch kits installed now, tried a QuikChute blocker that was absolutely horrible and left a huge mess. Best bet is the Toro Mulching kit but leave off the flat plate that goes where the chute is it clogs with grass and leaves a clump line on the right side. Taking the plate off doesn’t hurt because you still have the round added on plate under the deck which blocks the chute opening. The flat plate you take off is merely secondary. If you have more questions let me know I can send you a quick video of what we did👍
I ran both ...i.perfer scaggs..Toro really sucked had lots of problems with them just retired after 42 years...yaa
congrats on your retirement, I really do believe mowers are like a ford chevy dodge type thing
@@Oxford_Lawn I did 450 a week had 4scaggs no problems Toro in shop one a month lots of Dow time
@@Oxford_Lawn you are wrong, the SCAG will outlast and outperform that toro garbage by a long shot. I guess you are kinda right in a sense, the SCAG is a Mercedes, that toro garbage is a Ford Pinto. You can’t compare the two mowers, the toro is not even in the same universe. Compare the 36” vride to that toro garbage and see what happens. The vride destroys it in every category. You can’t compare two machines that is not even close. The toro is a very bad machine made for home owners. No real landscaping company will purchase that junk and you won’t see any company with that junk on one of their trailers
The taller tires on the scag should in theory compare to the wider tires on the toro; in respect to the the footprint area
If this toro had the 18 horse power I would buy it.
It honestly has plenty of power just as it is
this one this...this one that only time I consider those is when my walker doesn't fit even then 🤷🏾♂️ the walker didn't do it lol
Scag stripes better
Debatable
Can't you just change the tires out on the scag?
It’s possible but then the tires would stick way out beyond the deck area
You didn’t even get a full commercial motor with the toro
The toro is garbage, the 36” vride will destroy this toro garbage in every category
I'm sure scag has a 36 it will have wider tires. I don't like the platform spacing on the toro.
Scag does have a 36 and the tires are just as wide and tall as the 48 v-drive
Because he knows the 36” scag vride will destroy this toro garbage in every category
Not a good review. Due to comparing a 32 and a 40 inch deck. Big differences
Not a fair review.
I've come to think that when you are going to a 36" or smaller mower you are better off with a walk-behind. I've run both on the same yards and was quicker with the WB because of better traction. Less fatigue using the stand-on for sure so I guess it depends how often you are using it. Nice video btw, it was a good honest review.
You lost your damn mind. A 36” vride absolutely destroys any walk behind in every category
@@Deltadawgthat sounds like the opinion of someone who hasn’t had a 36 stander, or maybe you live somewhere with no hills. Too much weight on skinny tires. OP is 100% correct, 36 or smaller, walk behind is better.
I mean scag is good I really want 32 stand on mower scag because it better than walk behind 32 personally I would go with scag 32 Stan on mower not big fan of toro I feel like the tire are so big wide ehh scag I like because it has the mud flaps both sides and toro doesn’t have it I nor scag has good orange color go for scag💪.
@el espartano 300 The Scag is still here unused sitting in the barn, come and buy it I will give you a great price 😀👍
@@Oxford_Lawn Really nice I think one of the scags stand on mower cost around 7k or even more idk but where are you located
Wildwood Florida and they’re a little more than 7k by the time you’re out the door with it by a few hundred dollars
@@Oxford_Lawn Oh wow you are so far I’m in Illinois we have dealer too of machinery but idk how much they cost
Is this Ric Flair half brother, wtf, give me something more...
That's not the velocity deck😂😂
Toro all day!!
I’m now a believer! Thanks for watching Andres. Appreciate don’t hate😀👍👊
I've been using a clients Toro 3000 series on a five acre block for 4 yrs now and have appreciated the ability of the Toro. So much so I got the 52"Grandstand since the decks pretty much the same, turbo force deck, . Absolutely love this machine, from the first yard to the last one today. As expected the Turbo force deck does it's thing very well. Oh i did the first oil change filter change today at 12 hrs. Easy to get to everything 😜😅. It was a largish expense but Toro finance made it almost the same repayment I was on with the Raptor. So not a real big outlay for such a fine machine. These are just getting noticed now in Australia. We're lazy and want to sit down mostly. But my back and knees have been really good since working with the stand on.
Just kidding, this is good content once I actually look at it.
One of the dumbest reviews I’ve watched. Two different deck sizes😂
nice into... Stevewilldoit :P
Not comparing the same class mower bad review.