I've had mine for nearly fifty years. I used to be a dealer. Ten years ago, I converted it to electric operation, as I always split within 30' of a power source. In all those years I have only replaced one return spring and one small bearing. It has never failed me. I think it's a great little machine. Shalom/gw
That is great! I hope mine can last half as long. :) You must have treated it right to have such a good maintenance history. Did you notice much of a difference after you converted to electric? Thanks for watching! All the best!
@@coyote12workshop Hello again. I am a retired engineer. I understand machines. The conversion was easy. I installed a Baldor 1hp motor and a go kart centrifugal clutch. There in absolutely no difference in performance, except that it's very quiet and very easy to start. If I would ever need to split away from a 110V sourse, I can use a generator. Shalom/gw
LOL. You are too kind. haha. I might change some things if I went back and did it again, but hopefully the content is still relevant almost a year later. :)
Just bought a 35 ton hydraulic last fall, big upgrade over the splitting maul. My son used to split with the maul and I hauled away the split wood and stacked it. We stayed about even with work load. Last fall I split with the 35 ton and a 4 way head, my son could not keep up clearing and stacking wood. Finally at 69 I made a discovery, burning firewood gets you hot to many times, only one of them is enjoyable.
Lol! We were talking about that very fact a few weeks ago - burning it isn’t the only time firewood keeps you warm. I am sure the 4-way wedge did wonders for productivity. I don’t know if it would work on the Super Split, but someday I’ll get there. My son is 10, and he is getting paid to stack wood. It’s a great way to spend time together (though he doesn’t always think so - hahaha).
I've had my SS for 2 years now. There are a few things that NEED to be discussed when giving a tutorial on this machine. #1 show how to work around knots. If you don't split the knot head on it will flip up and come back at your face. Split around the knot then try to split the knot in half with the knot up against the wedge not the ram. # 2 Explain how to replace the rubber stoppers or bumpers you can call them. They will wear out and you can either replace them with original part or do what I did which is cheaper. I buy rubber stoppers or plugs then drill a hole in them and attach with bolts so it's easy to replace from there on out. A lot cheaper this way. #3 as you said about the roller bearing. I always have a can of either wd 40 or pb blaster type of lubricant. Buy the cheap stuff because it cleans just as good as the name brand. When operating use gloves more for wiping of rail to get rid of that black film that gets the roller dirty. This saves on the lubricant. #4 Have a hatchet handy because some big rounds or getting into hickory/elm or other stringy wood does not completely split. The hatchet makes easy work to separate. Thank you for the video of this great machine. Another tip that works awesome is to set up a couple of saw horses with a pallet on top next to machine. This acts a transfer table. It's a loading table and when you split a big round just roll one half on to pallet then continue splitting. Lot less bending over. Thanks again for video and have a great day.
These are all great pieces of advice, especially the part about working around knots. I had a few flip up on me early on, and it is a bit disconcerting. I'll see what I can do to get some knotty rounds on the splitter and show how it is done (though you described it pretty well already, I'd say). Thanks again for the tips - some of the stuff you mentioned definitely comes with time and experience around the splitter. As for #4, I ended up using my dump trailer to stage some of the rounds on, and then split directly into an ATV trailer that I could tow over to where I stacked the wood for storage... just how my operation went, but your pallet table is a great solution as well. Cheers!
@@coyote12workshop I will eventually make a video when my work season ends and winter begins. I'm a mason so when it gets cold I start splittin. Thanks for putting in the time to make vids. Cheers
@@brikkijimI like that and hope to see a video from you and im still thinking going electric, for now im between this model and the electric one you have.
That is true what you said about the necklace it could be dangerous hanging around her neck with that machine Y'all keep up the good work enjoy watching your videos
LOL! Even at 16x, I was still hesitant to put it all in there. I can hardly believe I used that machine for so long - it gave me a lot of time with my thoughts. Haha. Thanks for watching.
I’m getting ready for firewood season and saw kinetic splitters for the first time today. Watched a few vids on them, and yours is by FAR the best video on the matter. You deserve more subs for the brilliant planning and execution of this video. keep making more!
Well, thanks! That made me smile - I appreciate the support. :) I actually have a bunch of additional footage - we just got into the thick of the fire season (my full time job), and some of this got put on the back burner. I will definitely put out some more content though - the Super Split is great! Have a wonderful day.
The large cam followers that are under your ram are the same size as the ones that pushes down on the gear rack. It is a McGill CYR-1 1/4-S or Koyo YCRS-20. The smaller cam follower that rides directly on the beam is a McGill CYR-3/4-S or Koyo YCRS-12 for future reference.
I love my SS HD. Ive had mine for a couple years now and zero problems so far and have split only about 10 cords but you time is right on. I can split 1/3 of a cord in about 12-15 minutes. Some of the "wishes" I have is a little taller wedge and a 4 way wedge option. Ive only had a few rounds get stuck in the wedge or where the arm wont retract but nothing a small sledge wouldn't handle. One thing you forgot to mention was keeping the bearing greased! I use one of those disposable grease bottles with the somewhat pointed tip and they fit right into the grease opening and keeping the I beam and under the ram cleaned off.
The wedge upgrades would be a welcome addition. I’m tempted to try and fabricate one myself, but it’ll be time dependent. :) Thanks for the reminder about greasing the bearings - it is important, just like you said. Have a good one!
Thanks for the heads up! I will check that out. I have been using Superzilla, and it works great as well. I will put out a video showing some small upgrades I did to my Super Split so I could have the lubricant/cleaner mounted to the unit, along with a scraper and a modification to the stabilizing legs. Thanks for the tip!!
It stops the ram, but nothing breaks. In fact, you can let the ram return to its original position, spool up the flywheels, and hit it again. With a couple whacks, it can get through almost anything. It’s great!
Love to get Super Split, bigger table and bigger honda engine, wish it had a highway safe towing frame, also Agrifab had a copy alled a Split Second kinetic splitter, they actually had a manual log lift that worked prettu good for really big rounds.
I watched a video about the Split Second before I landed on the Super Split (unless I’m mistaken, they aren’t manufactured anymore). I thought the log lift they had was great - it would be a game changer, for sure.
If I could, I would! :) I was so grateful to find this manufacturer because, like you said, the alternatives are mostly cheap and unreliable. Mine has been a workhorse since I got it, and I haven't run into any issues yet. Best!
The Super Split is a tremendous machine, very fast and you can have great control over the size and shape of the splits. But to be fair that has to be the slowest hydraulic splitter over ever seen. Good review video of the Super Split. My only concern with that machine would be wearing out the rack or gears that operate the push plate. I’ve never seen anything about that happening so I guess it’s just me overthinking a problem that might not exist.
Lol. Overthinking is something that gets the best of us... All I can do is go off of the track record this unit has, and hope mine holds up as well. With some basic maintenance, I don't see why it wouldn't. And you're right, that hydraulic splitter needs to be completely overhauled. When I was using it as my main splitter, I just had no idea. :) It gave me lots of time to think, and to get my hands out of harm's way. haha
Happy to! I purchased the SuperSplit HD (6.5 HP Honda Engine) and opted for the Extra-wide Production Table and the Tow Hitch. I'm glad I did - the splitter has lived up to the expectations I had of it, and the production table (with its stabilizing legs) makes everything rock solid. The tow hitch fits my Quad's tow ball, so it's easy to move around the property. Let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks!
I would too. I need to find some varied wood species so I can demonstrate the capabilities (or what the SS isn’t good for). I have considered making a road trip around various parts of the country to collect samples and make a single video of it all. Maybe I should just throw the Super Split on the trailer and split where I find it. :) Sounds like a good summer road trip!
The main downside to these is that being always horizontal and with no log lifter, you run the risk of back injury/hernia if you have to heft anything large up there. Wish super split could come up with a solution to that.
You are 100% correct. If there was a log lift, that would change the game. I love my splitter, but had to find a way to efficiently break the rounds down into “liftable” pieces so I wouldn’t kill my back. My excavator solution isn’t available to everyone though, so a solution at the splitter level would be ideal. Thanks for watching!
I don't have a super split, but a girly-man off brand kinetic as I wanted to see how they worked first....I built a foldable ramp out of 2x6's for the big rounds, I just throw it in the back of the SxS when I know I have big rounds to do in the bush. Total back saver for $15 in lumber!
You are absolutely right! I actually have some really gnarly wood on the lot right now - I'll get some footage and post it. Great idea. It really is what needs to be shown - Can it handle the tough stuff?
Or large rounds? Because they don’t want to pick them up and this splitter doesn’t tilt so here we get small, straight wood that would be way faster with a maul!
It's true - picking up large rounds is a pain (figuratively and literally). The Side Tool excavator attachment has taken care of that for me, but not everyone has access to a tool like that. There is definitely an upside to the tilting hydraulic splitters in that regard. Pros and cons always come into play... I really wish the Super Split had a log lift - even if it was a manual one. Thanks for watching!
I just got through splitting every part of a 117 year old Red oak, every crotch ,knot and gnarly part. It make take a few strikes with the ram but it can always get through anything with only a 3/4 hp electric motor. @@coyote12workshop
I need to find something really gnarly - this is one of the more common questions asked about the SS HD. :) What species of wood do you encounter that gives you the biggest fits? I'll see if I can find some and demonstrate. Thanks!
There are a number of reasons I chose the Super Split over its competitors. First and foremost, I chose it because of its proven track record and reliability. You can find videos of some machines that are decades old and still chugging right along. It wasn’t the cheapest of all the machines, but as with many things, you get what you pay for… in this case, I stuck to the old code “Buy nice, or buy twice”. :) So far, no regrets. Second, the original patent holder still manufactures the unit right here in the USA, and the company takes pride in their work. Third, I was able to get a heavier-duty model that would be able to power through 24” long rounds without any trouble. Additionally, I had the option to upgrade the production table to make it easier to process bigger rounds. The wider production table came with telescoping legs, which made the whole unit more stable than any other kinetic splitter on the market. Win/Win/Win. There are other less obvious reasons, but those are the main ones. I only wish there was an option for a hydraulic lift. I’ve found a solution for my wood yard with an excavator attachment, but that won’t be the case for everyone out there. And the last upgrade would be a towable axle - maybe that will happen someday down the road. Haha. Hope you enjoyed the video. -Kevin
Absolutely correct. I will post another little video of my overall operation - the splits get thrown into a trailer, and then stacked from there. It saves a lot of bending over, and avoids wasted time. Thanks for the tip!
Great advice! I welded a hitch onto my firewood trailer, so I have a train when I go out to the bush. SxS pulls trailer pulls splitter. After cutting I touch it once to go on the splitter and into the trailer, then stack from the trailer at the house. Any time you can cut down on touches it saves you time AND your back!
Do you save your back while lifting them heavy rounds up to the table? I think not. Thats the one advantage a verticle hydraulic splitter has over the Super Split. Hyraulic is Slower? Yes...but what good are you for splitting anything if your back is blown out from lifting 50 pound rounds over and over again?
Agreed. 100% correct. That's why I had to add the excavator attachment to my little operation. There is certainly a place for vertical hydraulic splitters - but if you can get those rounds broken down into manageable sizes, you can't beat the speed of the SuperSplit. Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
The HD model was designed with the heavier flywheels, so my inclination is to think that it would do quite well. However, I have thought extensively about whether or not my wife would let me drive around the country and get samples of all the hardest-to-split firewood species, and give it a go. It would make for some great content. :). Definitely an idea for the summer months.
It can split big oak just fine - it is amazing the amount of energy stored in those fly wheels. I'll have to put a video out with a bunch of different species of wood for the sake of comparison. I just need to round some up (see what I did there? haha). Thanks!
It does fine, but you do have to be aware of them. The round can kick up off the wedge if you aren't paying attention to the orientation. I will try to capture some video of it on my end, and how we deal with the knots. Thanks for watching.
A 4 way head on that hydraulic spliteer would halve the time at least, and if you were to put two of the split 1/4s together, that would make it even quicker.
Very, very true. I'd like to try a 4-way head on the Kinetic Splitter as well, if I'm honest. For some of the straight-grained wood we have around here, it would save a lot of time. I'll have to think a little on that and see what my welding-friend can come up with. :)
@@coyote12workshop I split a lot of hedrow, self set trees etc. I think a 4 way on the knitec might with the wrong type of log cause quite an event if that ram stopped suddenly.
@@johnbarham7718 The ram is actually designed to stall out - if there isn't enough oomph with the first blow, you can disengage, let the flywheels spin back up, and hit it again. It is a great feature of the splitter. With some of the crotch wood, as well as some really knotty rounds, that stall happens even when using the single wedge blade. It can be a challenge, but it all burns. :)
Absolutely. I think there are a few videos out there that show it chewing through just about every wood species thrown at it. The HD model really is made to do some work. I don't think you'd be disappointed if you got one. I know mine has been rock solid.
Wow, my hydraulic is about 15 seconds time. I agree, the pump is likely shot. Nothing wrong with the SS just it’s kind of an unfair comparison. Still slick
15 seconds is a great cycle time! There are some really fast hydraulic splitters out there, for sure. I think I might have to replace the pump on that old tank and show what kind of time difference it makes. It has always been that speed for me, so I didn’t know any different. To some degree, I’m thankful because I might have never bothered with the kinetic splitter. I’ve loved it so far. As with most things, there’s a place for both types. I, for one, wish I had a four or a six-way wedge as an option like many hydraulic splitters have… That is a real game changer!
My bro in law has a splitter with a 4 way wedge. I was excited to borrow it and try it out. Bottom line is I didn’t like it. It only worked well on certain sized logs. For everything else it was annoying. The real ticket would be a 4 way that moves up and down quickly with a lever. The splitters with that option are high dollar!
That is a good question. I haven’t been able to find an “equivalency” measurement, so I don’t know. I do know it hasn’t blinked at anything I’ve thrown at it, and there are lots of other examples of it splitting some tough wood out there.
The 30 ton huge hyd. Cylinder is too big for the oil flow and small engine . Also is there a two stage pump that can pump fast under no load ? That machine should be upgraded !
A two-stage pump would be awesome for that old machine - the return stroke being so slow is excruciating. I am going to upgrade the pump and see if we can get it back to its glory days. :) Thanks for the info!
That hydraulic splitter needs sorting out. No splitter is *that* slow. The pump is bypassing or there’s a line restriction somewhere. Don’t get me wrong here - I’m not “Team Hydraulic” or anything. My homeboy R2 has one of these and it’s a fast, fast splitter. No hydraulic splitter that’s working correctly is going to take 13 minutes to split four rounds. Just subscribed!
Yeah, that old hydraulic splitter might just need a new pump altogether. :) I plan on seeing what I can find and fixing her up… might do a “before & after” once we get it freshened up. Haha. I appreciate very much the insight - thanks for checking out the channel! Have a great evening.
Please get your hand off of the log !!!!! I had a Super Split for 9 years and it finally got me, crushed my finger so bad that they had to amputate it. Never keep you hand on the log though in the video I see you do it constantly. It's eventually going to get you. I love the Super Splits but you need to maintain certain rules. orry to burst your bubble.
I'm sorry to hear about your hand. And no worries about bursting my bubble - no ego here. :) My full time job is as a first responder, so I've seen a few horrible hand injuries... I certainly don't want one myself. Thanks for the heads up!
I would love to... :). Just can't seem to find any around here. Someone needs to get all these tree species together and have a SuperSplit Meetup! I'd be game. Thanks for watching.
I paid $3,300 fr the Splitter, and another $500 for the upgraded table. It was worth every penny, I think. I am not associated with SuperSplit in any way, so you'd have to inquire with them if they deliver their product to Europe. Sorry! :) Thanks for watching!
Absolutely! :) The maintenance is “super” straightforward - haha. Someday, I’m going to have to find something I really don’t like about it, or people will start thinking I work for them. Nothing so far, though. lol
LOL. You have a keen eye for detail. Another video will be posted that shows the whole operation... but until then, we stack our wood on pallets, off the ground. :) Thanks for watching.
My HD model is on order, hopefully it will arrive before January ends. Just to clarify…aren’t they supposed to come with a helper to remove and stack the firewood? 😎😜😇 Tim in northern TN
LOL! I kept removing the cowling to see if the helper was hidden under there somewhere, but never found it... must have fallen out in transit. Thanks for taking a look! Oh, and what part of TN? I have a good friend moving out there soon (Cookeville), and I'm intrigued.
Elm is certainly a difficult wood to split with its interlocking grain. They have a model (The Super Split Special Edition) that has 100 lb flywheels and a larger engine that was designed just for that kind of difficult wood (it was popular back in the 70's and 80's when the American Elm was dying off due to disease). My HD model does have 90 lb flywheels, so it can handle just about everything I can throw at it from the PNW. I just wish it had a log lift. :) I'll have to see if I can find some knotty oak that will really put it to the test and post a video. The proof will be in the pudding, right? Good or bad, I'd like to know. Keep swinging that maul! There really is no better exercise. :)
The reason for the straight-grained wood is pretty straightforward - that is the majority of the wood available in my region (Pacific Northwest). Fir, alder and maple are pretty abundant around here. I have a some knotty wood that I will demonstrate splitting soon - it is a question that several people have asked, and there isn't much footage on how well the machine does splitting those tough rounds. Standby for more! :) Thanks for the inquiry.
You guys are great but to be serious, I would never buy a wood splitter I had to lift every round onto. It might work for small rounds but for larger wood, rolling the rounds to a vertical splitter is the only way to go, if you want to be able to handle the volume commercially.
We think a lot alike, and you are absolutely right - some of the rounds are just too big to put up onto the table so they can be processed into firewood. With what I had available to me, I did come up with a solution! Check out the video on my channel titled "The Best Addition to any Super Split Firewood Operation - Save Your Back!" ruclips.net/video/1PjLNkgLJXs/видео.html I will also put a link to it in the description. It is the best solution I could come up with, and with the manufacturer located within driving distance of my woodyard, I couldn't pass it up. Nice to make your acquaintance.
I’m not sure if the prices have changed much recently, but for the HD model, I paid $3,300 (just for the splitter). The upgraded production table was another $500. Worth every penny, I think. 😀. It is about twice as much as what you'll pay for a big box store splitter, but is about 10 times faster and has no hydraulics to leak, nor seals to replace.
@@coyote12workshop thank you you've helped me my decision, time is important and I like simplicity of mechanical over hydraulics anytime 1 belt vs 3or 4 hoses and Orings to keep around
Definitely something that needs to be considered. I will put together a video with some knotty rounds - there is a method to it that includes proper orientation (to avoid the round kicking up off the wedge) and some planning to get the cleanest splits.
I’m not sure if the prices have changed much recently, but for the HD model, I paid $3,300 (just for the splitter). The upgraded production table was another $500. Worth every penny, I think. 😀
Well, I wouldn't call the straight-grain wood "fake". :) It just happens to be the majority of what we have around here - plentiful fir and alder. I'll look around for some other species and see what I can find. Thanks for watching!
Yep, definitely time for a new one… actually, it was time for a new one probsably 20 years ago. Lol. The slow decline just kept us used to the performance - like a frog in a pot of slowly-heated water. :)
I suppose it will all boil down to the operator. There are a lot of things out there that increase efficiency and speed but that could kill you if handled improperly. It's the nature of machines based on mechanical advantage. Thanks for watching, and be safe!
I think that's going to get old real fast. Look at all the work you need to do for every re-split, picking up the log and moving it back to where the splitter just pushed it from. Compare it to a modern vertical splitter like the Easton Axis: you'd have much less work (wear and tear on your back) to reposition for subsequent splits.
I absolutely agree. There is definitely a lot of wasted motion and expended energy when you compare it to the Axis. I would love one of those… gotta build up to it though. I am all for investing in tools that make the job easier and more sustainable, so maybe sooner than later! :) All the best!
@@coyote12workshop Yeah, I didn't consider cost when I commented. I'm an old, work analyst (Army) mostly at depots doing time and motion studies. So that's where I was coming from: save the motion, save the back.
@@andhisband That sounds like a great specialty! Love it. I am sure I will upgrade someday. I think there is a place for both an Axis and a Super Split in an operation like mine. And honestly, anything to save my back is welcomed with open arms. I’d rather be out ahead of something like that than trying to recover… :)
Nice splitter! It was one of the splitters I considered before I bought my Splitfire 2265. I wonder how they stack up? 🤔 I am very happy with the 2265. Look forward to seeing more videos.
Great question. The 2265 looks like a beautiful machine. Maybe a little slower cycle time, but how great is the log lift?! :) I wish there was a way to integrate one on the SS, but without a hydraulic pump, you’d have to add a whole system. I’m looking for alternatives for a log lift, and think I have found one, but we’ll see… anything to save the ‘ole back! :)
@Coyote 12 Workshop the log lift was one of four deciding factors for me going with the Split-fire. #1 safety, #2 cost, #3 speed, #4 log-lift. I subscribed. Good luck with channel.
It varies. I do it mainly as a hobby, so if I get 20 cord split and stacked, that is pretty good. My current goal is to get 150 cord in my yard so it can season, but the FT job really gets in the way of that. :). Thanks for watching!
I've had mine for nearly fifty years. I used to be a dealer. Ten years ago, I converted it to electric operation, as I always split within 30' of a power source. In all those years I have only replaced one return spring and one small bearing. It has never failed me. I think it's a great little machine. Shalom/gw
That is great! I hope mine can last half as long. :) You must have treated it right to have such a good maintenance history.
Did you notice much of a difference after you converted to electric?
Thanks for watching! All the best!
@@coyote12workshop Hello again. I am a retired engineer. I understand machines. The conversion was easy. I installed a Baldor 1hp motor and a go kart centrifugal clutch. There in absolutely no difference in performance, except that it's very quiet and very easy to start. If I would ever need to split away from a 110V sourse, I can use a generator. Shalom/gw
Greetings from Europe🍀🤚🏼
This whole video was cinematic gold 🪙
LOL. You are too kind. haha. I might change some things if I went back and did it again, but hopefully the content is still relevant almost a year later. :)
Just bought a 35 ton hydraulic last fall, big upgrade over the splitting maul. My son used to split with the maul and I hauled away the split wood and stacked it. We stayed about even with work load.
Last fall I split with the 35 ton and a 4 way head, my son could not keep up clearing and stacking wood.
Finally at 69 I made a discovery, burning firewood gets you hot to many times, only one of them is enjoyable.
Lol! We were talking about that very fact a few weeks ago - burning it isn’t the only time firewood keeps you warm.
I am sure the 4-way wedge did wonders for productivity. I don’t know if it would work on the Super Split, but someday I’ll get there. My son is 10, and he is getting paid to stack wood. It’s a great way to spend time together (though he doesn’t always think so - hahaha).
This was the best video I’ve seen for this so far - easy to follow and inspirational. Thanks for sharing this, Coyote!
Thank you! Those are some kind words. The splitter really sells itself. Haha.
Great job Nice splitter
they’re made in my hometown
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Thank you. I recently saw a tour of the facility. Looks like a nice place. I’ve never been to that part of the country, but hope to someday!
Thanks for your video. Very helpful to me.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. It has been a great machine for me thusfar, and keeps cranking out the firewood. :) Have a great holiday season!
I've had my SS for 2 years now. There are a few things that NEED to be discussed when giving a tutorial on this machine. #1 show how to work around knots. If you don't split the knot head on it will flip up and come back at your face. Split around the knot then try to split the knot in half with the knot up against the wedge not the ram. # 2 Explain how to replace the rubber stoppers or bumpers you can call them. They will wear out and you can either replace them with original part or do what I did which is cheaper. I buy rubber stoppers or plugs then drill a hole in them and attach with bolts so it's easy to replace from there on out. A lot cheaper this way. #3 as you said about the roller bearing. I always have a can of either wd 40 or pb blaster type of lubricant. Buy the cheap stuff because it cleans just as good as the name brand. When operating use gloves more for wiping of rail to get rid of that black film that gets the roller dirty. This saves on the lubricant. #4 Have a hatchet handy because some big rounds or getting into hickory/elm or other stringy wood does not completely split. The hatchet makes easy work to separate. Thank you for the video of this great machine. Another tip that works awesome is to set up a couple of saw horses with a pallet on top next to machine. This acts a transfer table. It's a loading table and when you split a big round just roll one half on to pallet then continue splitting. Lot less bending over. Thanks again for video and have a great day.
These are all great pieces of advice, especially the part about working around knots. I had a few flip up on me early on, and it is a bit disconcerting. I'll see what I can do to get some knotty rounds on the splitter and show how it is done (though you described it pretty well already, I'd say). Thanks again for the tips - some of the stuff you mentioned definitely comes with time and experience around the splitter. As for #4, I ended up using my dump trailer to stage some of the rounds on, and then split directly into an ATV trailer that I could tow over to where I stacked the wood for storage... just how my operation went, but your pallet table is a great solution as well. Cheers!
@@coyote12workshop I will eventually make a video when my work season ends and winter begins. I'm a mason so when it gets cold I start splittin. Thanks for putting in the time to make vids. Cheers
@@brikkijimI like that and hope to see a video from you and im still thinking going electric, for now im between this model and the electric one you have.
🎧🤪🎙️🫶 Thank you so much for sharing 🙏 I wishing you a beautiful day to you and all your viewers. Much Love Thierry ❤️˘◡˘❤️
@@Thierry-ck3fp I have the hd not electric although I thought about it. Thank you for posting and all that you present to us viewers. Peace.
That is true what you said about the necklace it could be dangerous hanging around her neck with that machine Y'all keep up the good work enjoy watching your videos
Thank you! Safety first. :) Have a great day.
hi there nice job john
Thank you - very kind of you to say! :)
Great comparison and thank you for speeding the old splitter up to 16x😅
LOL! Even at 16x, I was still hesitant to put it all in there. I can hardly believe I used that machine for so long - it gave me a lot of time with my thoughts. Haha. Thanks for watching.
I’m getting ready for firewood season and saw kinetic splitters for the first time today. Watched a few vids on them, and yours is by FAR the best video on the matter. You deserve more subs for the brilliant planning and execution of this video. keep making more!
Well, thanks! That made me smile - I appreciate the support. :) I actually have a bunch of additional footage - we just got into the thick of the fire season (my full time job), and some of this got put on the back burner. I will definitely put out some more content though - the Super Split is great! Have a wonderful day.
The large cam followers that are under your ram are the same size as the ones that pushes down on the gear rack. It is a McGill CYR-1 1/4-S or Koyo YCRS-20. The smaller cam follower that rides directly on the beam is a McGill CYR-3/4-S or Koyo YCRS-12 for future reference.
Thanks! That's great reference information. Never a bad idea to have some on hand for when they're inevitably needed. Much appreciated!
I love my SS HD. Ive had mine for a couple years now and zero problems so far and have split only about 10 cords but you time is right on. I can split 1/3 of a cord in about 12-15 minutes. Some of the "wishes" I have is a little taller wedge and a 4 way wedge option. Ive only had a few rounds get stuck in the wedge or where the arm wont retract but nothing a small sledge wouldn't handle. One thing you forgot to mention was keeping the bearing greased! I use one of those disposable grease bottles with the somewhat pointed tip and they fit right into the grease opening and keeping the I beam and under the ram cleaned off.
The wedge upgrades would be a welcome addition. I’m tempted to try and fabricate one myself, but it’ll be time dependent. :) Thanks for the reminder about greasing the bearings - it is important, just like you said. Have a good one!
Cool vids, Dylan just showed me your channel 😂🤘🏼
Thanks! :) Always good to have an advocate! Haha. Stay tuned for more. 👍🏻
@@coyote12workshop Fo sho!
I have one and noticed that ballistol is the best lubricant for where the roller is on the I beam
Thanks for the heads up! I will check that out. I have been using Superzilla, and it works great as well. I will put out a video showing some small upgrades I did to my Super Split so I could have the lubricant/cleaner mounted to the unit, along with a scraper and a modification to the stabilizing legs. Thanks for the tip!!
Looks a good machine wot happens if it has a log which is hard does it stall the machine or does some thing break
It stops the ram, but nothing breaks. In fact, you can let the ram return to its original position, spool up the flywheels, and hit it again. With a couple whacks, it can get through almost anything. It’s great!
Love to get Super Split, bigger table and bigger honda engine, wish it had a highway safe towing frame, also Agrifab had a copy alled a Split Second kinetic splitter, they actually had a manual log lift that worked prettu good for really big rounds.
I watched a video about the Split Second before I landed on the Super Split (unless I’m mistaken, they aren’t manufactured anymore). I thought the log lift they had was great - it would be a game changer, for sure.
Please bring this to Australia! We only have imported Chinese Kinetic splitters here. They do the job but would love something of higher quality.
If I could, I would! :) I was so grateful to find this manufacturer because, like you said, the alternatives are mostly cheap and unreliable. Mine has been a workhorse since I got it, and I haven't run into any issues yet. Best!
The Super Split is a tremendous machine, very fast and you can have great control over the size and shape of the splits. But to be fair that has to be the slowest hydraulic splitter over ever seen. Good review video of the Super Split. My only concern with that machine would be wearing out the rack or gears that operate the push plate. I’ve never seen anything about that happening so I guess it’s just me overthinking a problem that might not exist.
Lol. Overthinking is something that gets the best of us... All I can do is go off of the track record this unit has, and hope mine holds up as well. With some basic maintenance, I don't see why it wouldn't.
And you're right, that hydraulic splitter needs to be completely overhauled. When I was using it as my main splitter, I just had no idea. :) It gave me lots of time to think, and to get my hands out of harm's way. haha
According to Paul the owner of SS the rack and pinion are good for at least 30,000 chords.
Only 30,000 cords? What am I going to do next year? 🤣🤣🤣
Do you mean next week? @@judge058
There’s a lot of options to consider when ordering a super split. Can you list which options you chose? Thanks Will
Happy to! I purchased the SuperSplit HD (6.5 HP Honda Engine) and opted for the Extra-wide Production Table and the Tow Hitch. I'm glad I did - the splitter has lived up to the expectations I had of it, and the production table (with its stabilizing legs) makes everything rock solid. The tow hitch fits my Quad's tow ball, so it's easy to move around the property. Let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks!
I would be interested in seeing knotted twisted wood. I have a bunch of suger maple.
I would too. I need to find some varied wood species so I can demonstrate the capabilities (or what the SS isn’t good for). I have considered making a road trip around various parts of the country to collect samples and make a single video of it all. Maybe I should just throw the Super Split on the trailer and split where I find it. :) Sounds like a good summer road trip!
The main downside to these is that being always horizontal and with no log lifter, you run the risk of back injury/hernia if you have to heft anything large up there. Wish super split could come up with a solution to that.
You are 100% correct. If there was a log lift, that would change the game. I love my splitter, but had to find a way to efficiently break the rounds down into “liftable” pieces so I wouldn’t kill my back. My excavator solution isn’t available to everyone though, so a solution at the splitter level would be ideal. Thanks for watching!
I don't have a super split, but a girly-man off brand kinetic as I wanted to see how they worked first....I built a foldable ramp out of 2x6's for the big rounds, I just throw it in the back of the SxS when I know I have big rounds to do in the bush. Total back saver for $15 in lumber!
Question why does everyone use straight wood. Y’all need to show splitting knots and bad stuff to do a fair test people want to know
You are absolutely right! I actually have some really gnarly wood on the lot right now - I'll get some footage and post it. Great idea. It really is what needs to be shown - Can it handle the tough stuff?
Or large rounds? Because they don’t want to pick them up and this splitter doesn’t tilt so here we get small, straight wood that would be way faster with a maul!
It's true - picking up large rounds is a pain (figuratively and literally). The Side Tool excavator attachment has taken care of that for me, but not everyone has access to a tool like that. There is definitely an upside to the tilting hydraulic splitters in that regard. Pros and cons always come into play... I really wish the Super Split had a log lift - even if it was a manual one. Thanks for watching!
I just got through splitting every part of a 117 year old Red oak, every crotch ,knot and gnarly part. It make take a few strikes with the ram but it can always get through anything with only a 3/4 hp electric motor. @@coyote12workshop
It is a very nice machine. What are the dimensions of the pulley on the engine and the rim gear? What is the total weight of the pulleys?
I noticed most videos show using straight grain wood how does this perform with notty or crotch grain pieces
I need to find something really gnarly - this is one of the more common questions asked about the SS HD. :) What species of wood do you encounter that gives you the biggest fits? I'll see if I can find some and demonstrate. Thanks!
What made you choose the S.S over the other kinetic splitters available? Thank you.
There are a number of reasons I chose the Super Split over its competitors.
First and foremost, I chose it because of its proven track record and reliability. You can find videos of some machines that are decades old and still chugging right along. It wasn’t the cheapest of all the machines, but as with many things, you get what you pay for… in this case, I stuck to the old code “Buy nice, or buy twice”. :) So far, no regrets.
Second, the original patent holder still manufactures the unit right here in the USA, and the company takes pride in their work.
Third, I was able to get a heavier-duty model that would be able to power through 24” long rounds without any trouble. Additionally, I had the option to upgrade the production table to make it easier to process bigger rounds. The wider production table came with telescoping legs, which made the whole unit more stable than any other kinetic splitter on the market. Win/Win/Win.
There are other less obvious reasons, but those are the main ones. I only wish there was an option for a hydraulic lift. I’ve found a solution for my wood yard with an excavator attachment, but that won’t be the case for everyone out there. And the last upgrade would be a towable axle - maybe that will happen someday down the road. Haha.
Hope you enjoyed the video. -Kevin
@@coyote12workshop thank you for all the details.
Another thing to save your back - don't let the splits hit the ground. carry them from the table to the pile. Much less bending over & it saves time.
Absolutely correct. I will post another little video of my overall operation - the splits get thrown into a trailer, and then stacked from there. It saves a lot of bending over, and avoids wasted time. Thanks for the tip!
Great advice! I welded a hitch onto my firewood trailer, so I have a train when I go out to the bush. SxS pulls trailer pulls splitter. After cutting I touch it once to go on the splitter and into the trailer, then stack from the trailer at the house. Any time you can cut down on touches it saves you time AND your back!
Do you save your back while lifting them heavy rounds up to the table? I think not. Thats the one advantage a verticle hydraulic splitter has over the Super Split. Hyraulic is Slower? Yes...but what good are you for splitting anything if your back is blown out from lifting 50 pound rounds over and over again?
Agreed. 100% correct. That's why I had to add the excavator attachment to my little operation. There is certainly a place for vertical hydraulic splitters - but if you can get those rounds broken down into manageable sizes, you can't beat the speed of the SuperSplit. Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
I wonder how it would work with burr oak and elm
The HD model was designed with the heavier flywheels, so my inclination is to think that it would do quite well. However, I have thought extensively about whether or not my wife would let me drive around the country and get samples of all the hardest-to-split firewood species, and give it a go. It would make for some great content. :). Definitely an idea for the summer months.
Can it split big oak or just soft wood
It can split big oak just fine - it is amazing the amount of energy stored in those fly wheels. I'll have to put a video out with a bunch of different species of wood for the sake of comparison. I just need to round some up (see what I did there? haha). Thanks!
What's wrong with a splitting axe or a maul (which I've been using for 42years)?
Absolutely nothing. :) It is a good, honest days labor, that’s for sure. Keep up the good work!
How's it do when there are big knots?
It does fine, but you do have to be aware of them. The round can kick up off the wedge if you aren't paying attention to the orientation. I will try to capture some video of it on my end, and how we deal with the knots. Thanks for watching.
A 4 way head on that hydraulic spliteer would halve the time at least, and if you were to put two of the split 1/4s together, that would make it even quicker.
Very, very true. I'd like to try a 4-way head on the Kinetic Splitter as well, if I'm honest. For some of the straight-grained wood we have around here, it would save a lot of time. I'll have to think a little on that and see what my welding-friend can come up with. :)
@@coyote12workshop I split a lot of hedrow, self set trees etc. I think a 4 way on the knitec might with the wrong type of log cause quite an event if that ram stopped suddenly.
@@johnbarham7718 The ram is actually designed to stall out - if there isn't enough oomph with the first blow, you can disengage, let the flywheels spin back up, and hit it again. It is a great feature of the splitter. With some of the crotch wood, as well as some really knotty rounds, that stall happens even when using the single wedge blade. It can be a challenge, but it all burns. :)
I only have one question: will this machine perform like that on OAK and HICKORY? If so, I'm an owner!
Absolutely. I think there are a few videos out there that show it chewing through just about every wood species thrown at it. The HD model really is made to do some work. I don't think you'd be disappointed if you got one. I know mine has been rock solid.
I don’t think it can handle misquite wood
Wow, my hydraulic is about 15 seconds time. I agree, the pump is likely shot. Nothing wrong with the SS just it’s kind of an unfair comparison. Still slick
15 seconds is a great cycle time! There are some really fast hydraulic splitters out there, for sure. I think I might have to replace the pump on that old tank and show what kind of time difference it makes. It has always been that speed for me, so I didn’t know any different. To some degree, I’m thankful because I might have never bothered with the kinetic splitter. I’ve loved it so far. As with most things, there’s a place for both types. I, for one, wish I had a four or a six-way wedge as an option like many hydraulic splitters have… That is a real game changer!
My bro in law has a splitter with a 4 way wedge. I was excited to borrow it and try it out. Bottom line is I didn’t like it. It only worked well on certain sized logs. For everything else it was annoying. The real ticket would be a 4 way that moves up and down quickly with a lever. The splitters with that option are high dollar!
@@micahhittinger6083 An adjustable 4-way wedge would be so nice... maybe on the next splitter, once this one pays itself off. :)
What is the tonnage?
That is a good question. I haven’t been able to find an “equivalency” measurement, so I don’t know. I do know it hasn’t blinked at anything I’ve thrown at it, and there are lots of other examples of it splitting some tough wood out there.
The 30 ton huge hyd. Cylinder is too big for the oil flow and small engine .
Also is there a two stage pump that can pump fast under no load ?
That machine should be upgraded !
A two-stage pump would be awesome for that old machine - the return stroke being so slow is excruciating. I am going to upgrade the pump and see if we can get it back to its glory days. :) Thanks for the info!
That hydraulic splitter needs sorting out. No splitter is *that* slow. The pump is bypassing or there’s a line restriction somewhere. Don’t get me wrong here - I’m not “Team Hydraulic” or anything. My homeboy R2 has one of these and it’s a fast, fast splitter. No hydraulic splitter that’s working correctly is going to take 13 minutes to split four rounds.
Just subscribed!
Yeah, that old hydraulic splitter might just need a new pump altogether. :) I plan on seeing what I can find and fixing her up… might do a “before & after” once we get it freshened up. Haha. I appreciate very much the insight - thanks for checking out the channel! Have a great evening.
Please get your hand off of the log !!!!! I had a Super Split for 9 years and it finally got me, crushed my finger so bad that they had to amputate it. Never keep you hand on the log though in the video I see you do it constantly. It's eventually going to get you. I love the Super Splits but you need to maintain certain rules. orry to burst your bubble.
I'm sorry to hear about your hand. And no worries about bursting my bubble - no ego here. :) My full time job is as a first responder, so I've seen a few horrible hand injuries... I certainly don't want one myself. Thanks for the heads up!
I have one of these also, love it. Absolutely take your body parts away from the log when activating the ram!
this happen to me 2 days ago thank god i didn’t have to get it amputated
Really splitting a light pine tree that I could split with a butter knife. Show me what this thing can do by splitting Osage Orange hedge logs.
I would love to... :). Just can't seem to find any around here. Someone needs to get all these tree species together and have a SuperSplit Meetup! I'd be game. Thanks for watching.
Wow. I'm impressed about thwe Super Split HD kinetic log splitter!
Two questions.
1. How much for it?
2. do you deliver to Europe?
I paid $3,300 fr the Splitter, and another $500 for the upgraded table. It was worth every penny, I think.
I am not associated with SuperSplit in any way, so you'd have to inquire with them if they deliver their product to Europe. Sorry! :)
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your quick reply.
Unfortunately, it is no longer so self-evident that you get an answer at all.
Thanks again.
no hydraulic fluid to possibly leak. And no pumps and seals to break either. Just a belt to replace on the flywheel after a few years. I'll take that.
Absolutely! :) The maintenance is “super” straightforward - haha. Someday, I’m going to have to find something I really don’t like about it, or people will start thinking I work for them. Nothing so far, though. lol
Hi i am your sons friend bronx your sob is Wyatt right he is on my soccer team
Love it! Great tournament last weekend. Let's get another!
Yep
If I see a you tuber talking firewood and has it stacked directly on the ground....lol
LOL. You have a keen eye for detail. Another video will be posted that shows the whole operation... but until then, we stack our wood on pallets, off the ground. :) Thanks for watching.
My HD model is on order, hopefully it will arrive before January ends. Just to clarify…aren’t they supposed to come with a helper to remove and stack the firewood? 😎😜😇 Tim in northern TN
LOL! I kept removing the cowling to see if the helper was hidden under there somewhere, but never found it... must have fallen out in transit. Thanks for taking a look! Oh, and what part of TN? I have a good friend moving out there soon (Cookeville), and I'm intrigued.
@@coyote12workshop we are outside of Oneida, TN next to the Big South Fork National River & Recreation area (aka national park).
Did your HD show up yet? How do you like it?
@@coyote12workshop it was shipped but I’m still awaiting delivery. Should arrive this week.
@@CliffsideStables How goes it? Everything working as it should? I'm just curious if you've liked yours as much as I have mine. Have a good weekend!
A real man would just use an axe to split wood 😂😂
Lol! Can’t disagree with you on that one… 😂
Does not knotty oak or elm. No power. Good spitter for soft wood. By the way I can spit a cord of big oak in 2 hours.
Elm is certainly a difficult wood to split with its interlocking grain. They have a model (The Super Split Special Edition) that has 100 lb flywheels and a larger engine that was designed just for that kind of difficult wood (it was popular back in the 70's and 80's when the American Elm was dying off due to disease).
My HD model does have 90 lb flywheels, so it can handle just about everything I can throw at it from the PNW. I just wish it had a log lift. :)
I'll have to see if I can find some knotty oak that will really put it to the test and post a video. The proof will be in the pudding, right? Good or bad, I'd like to know.
Keep swinging that maul! There really is no better exercise. :)
why you always split wood with the straight grain, also take wood with the cross grain in order to evaluate the power of your creations
The reason for the straight-grained wood is pretty straightforward - that is the majority of the wood available in my region (Pacific Northwest). Fir, alder and maple are pretty abundant around here. I have a some knotty wood that I will demonstrate splitting soon - it is a question that several people have asked, and there isn't much footage on how well the machine does splitting those tough rounds. Standby for more! :) Thanks for the inquiry.
You guys are great but to be serious, I would never buy a wood splitter I had to lift every round onto. It might work for small rounds but for larger wood, rolling the rounds to a vertical splitter is the only way to go, if you want to be able to handle the volume commercially.
We think a lot alike, and you are absolutely right - some of the rounds are just too big to put up onto the table so they can be processed into firewood. With what I had available to me, I did come up with a solution!
Check out the video on my channel titled "The Best Addition to any Super Split Firewood Operation - Save Your Back!"
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I will also put a link to it in the description. It is the best solution I could come up with, and with the manufacturer located within driving distance of my woodyard, I couldn't pass it up.
Nice to make your acquaintance.
How much $$
I’m not sure if the prices have changed much recently, but for the HD model, I paid $3,300 (just for the splitter). The upgraded production table was another $500. Worth every penny, I think. 😀. It is about twice as much as what you'll pay for a big box store splitter, but is about 10 times faster and has no hydraulics to leak, nor seals to replace.
@@coyote12workshop thank you you've helped me my decision, time is important and I like simplicity of mechanical over hydraulics anytime 1 belt vs 3or 4 hoses and Orings to keep around
I'm currently processing professionally, 35 ton splitter. I have serious reservations on the big ugly knotty rounds
Definitely something that needs to be considered. I will put together a video with some knotty rounds - there is a method to it that includes proper orientation (to avoid the round kicking up off the wedge) and some planning to get the cleanest splits.
How much u pay for the machine?
I’m not sure if the prices have changed much recently, but for the HD model, I paid $3,300 (just for the splitter). The upgraded production table was another $500. Worth every penny, I think. 😀
The old splitter needs a new pump,
That would likely help a lot. :) Might just be time for an upgrade!
I think your father aged just from using the hydraulic splitter and nothing else.
😂 Imagine how much more life he could have lived if that thing was even 50% faster. Lol
No one shows splitting real wood with knots
Well, I wouldn't call the straight-grain wood "fake". :) It just happens to be the majority of what we have around here - plentiful fir and alder. I'll look around for some other species and see what I can find. Thanks for watching!
that old hydraulic needs a new pump, that's what's wrong with it.
Yep, definitely time for a new one… actually, it was time for a new one probsably 20 years ago. Lol. The slow decline just kept us used to the performance - like a frog in a pot of slowly-heated water. :)
Easy way to get hurt
Hyd is slow but less chance of getting hurt also
Hast makes waste
I suppose it will all boil down to the operator. There are a lot of things out there that increase efficiency and speed but that could kill you if handled improperly. It's the nature of machines based on mechanical advantage. Thanks for watching, and be safe!
I think your machine won't go far
Lol. In contrast, based on the history of the machine, I think it’ll last a really long time. Thanks for watching!
I think that's going to get old real fast. Look at all the work you need to do for every re-split, picking up the log and moving it back to where the splitter just pushed it from. Compare it to a modern vertical splitter like the Easton Axis: you'd have much less work (wear and tear on your back) to reposition for subsequent splits.
I absolutely agree. There is definitely a lot of wasted motion and expended energy when you compare it to the Axis. I would love one of those… gotta build up to it though. I am all for investing in tools that make the job easier and more sustainable, so maybe sooner than later! :) All the best!
@@coyote12workshop Yeah, I didn't consider cost when I commented. I'm an old, work analyst (Army) mostly at depots doing time and motion studies. So that's where I was coming from: save the motion, save the back.
@@andhisband That sounds like a great specialty! Love it. I am sure I will upgrade someday. I think there is a place for both an Axis and a Super Split in an operation like mine. And honestly, anything to save my back is welcomed with open arms. I’d rather be out ahead of something like that than trying to recover… :)
Well, if u had any credibility .........it's gone doing stupid!
I hope this got you the attention you were looking for... :)
Nice splitter! It was one of the splitters I considered before I bought my Splitfire 2265. I wonder how they stack up? 🤔 I am very happy with the 2265. Look forward to seeing more videos.
Great question. The 2265 looks like a beautiful machine. Maybe a little slower cycle time, but how great is the log lift?! :) I wish there was a way to integrate one on the SS, but without a hydraulic pump, you’d have to add a whole system. I’m looking for alternatives for a log lift, and think I have found one, but we’ll see… anything to save the ‘ole back! :)
@Coyote 12 Workshop the log lift was one of four deciding factors for me going with the Split-fire. #1 safety, #2 cost, #3 speed, #4 log-lift. I subscribed. Good luck with channel.
I was under the impression Splitfire brand is discontinued.
@tubesockets120v Split-fire is alive and well. Just came out with high-flow options on several of their bigger machines. Great to deal with.
@@shottyshoshco Do they have their own website?
How much wood 🪵 do you split yearly?
It varies. I do it mainly as a hobby, so if I get 20 cord split and stacked, that is pretty good. My current goal is to get 150 cord in my yard so it can season, but the FT job really gets in the way of that. :). Thanks for watching!