I appreciate that you don’t edit out your mistakes! We all make similar mistakes and watching how you deal with it makes it so much more educational. Keep up the great work and stay safe!
Jacob, don't beat yourself up over a few mistakes. Your willingness to work on many skills and go far beyond your comfort zone is very admirable and continues to make you better. When you had that barber chair, I was definitely scared for you. Be safe out there! We all love what you do!
I love that you show the "human" side of yourself Jacob. It seems most of the videos by tree care are about perfect cuts and trees that go where you want and make it seem easy. I really appreciate that you show even someone with as much experience in the tree care industry as yourself has difficulty sometimes and that is ok. Keep up the awesome content!
I really appreciate that you uploaded this video because it's such a great situation to learn from. Regardless of how much experience we have we all make mistakes and we can all learn from each other thus improving our accumulated skill.
I started logging before I got into Arboriculture. This really brings back memories! I remember following the fallers around doing their limbing and bucking for them. Eventually they would let me tip one here or there and I would inevitably get pinched or get a tree hung up. Was really humbling for a long time. Falling and climbing are two wildly different animals and I am forever grateful for those experiences.
Jacob your honesty shows and the mistakes you make and show teaches others what to do and not do. Like I said before you are a natural teacher,this is how you teach others both the right way and the wrong way to fell a tree. I had hoped you were not alone doing this dangerous work. Glad you are safe although wet! Stay warm and dry! Great video! Cant wait to see the next video!
The best tree felling planner I've seen on RUclips is Bjarne Butler. Even he has trees that do go quite according to plan. Even today he posted a short section of video about an accident that occurred to a skilled faller working in an experienced team. Some days go to plan some go up in smoke, so long as they are learning days and no-one is hurt and the profitability is dented rather than smashed it is still a fair enough day. At least you don't boast about being a feller god and just edit the bull ___t out. Thanks for keeping it real. Regards from Scotland.
Thanks for bringing us along for a day in the woods. I do mostly residential work but occasionally get a clearing job and I am quickly reminded that logging is such a different job than what you and I are accustomed to. Keep the videos coming and never stop learning 🤘💪 And more videos with Randyisthemandy please!
Been watching your channel so much when my kids go outside they become arborist and play Guilty of Treeson. You sparked a fire in a couple youngsters. Thanks for doing what you do and sharing along the way.
The Scandinavian safe corner method Sondre taught you would have saved you from getting that barber chair. He might be young, but the methods from Scandinavian logging are very old, and they work. Manual felling here is often done during wintertime and the wood can become very brittle in sub zero degrees. So felling without the safe corner method during winter would mean you are more or less guaranteed at least a couple of barber chairs a day. We of course use this method all year round, it's just a safer way of doing it on regular sized trees, especially on leaners.
Thanks for being real Jake! That’s why you’ll be the best. You love what you do and your humble! Perfect combination for becoming unstoppable! Mountain Man Tree Works.
Great video Treeson, I enjoy the timber falling vids as it's more relevant to what I do on my woodlot. Appreciate you showing what happens when things go wrong as they sometimes do, makes for a more educational video and a great learning tool, that barberchair looked nasty! Great job and stay safe out there! 🙂
Everyone is human. All we can do is learn from our mistakes in no matter what we do for a living as tradesmen. No one knows if a barber chair will happen unless it's common to the species. Your always learning thats what life is.
A long time ago I had a tree barber chair on me. It was more like an explosion than a slow split. I was lucky and learned a valuable lesson. Seeing a pro like you handle that situation is very valuable. You may not feel like its important but what you are teaching people can save lives. Keep it up and we'll keep watching.
@@proknifesharpeninghey my Jetta is a 22 with the 1.5 turbo, it also gets right at 50 mpg on the highway 🤷♀️. But yeah I’m probably lacking in the size department with a measly 24” bar. It’s a grower bit a shower, I swear.
I optet for an Ford Maverick from 2003 ...2 Liter NA ...25-30 Miles per Gallon ...and i can fit all my saws in it it Has 4wd and 5 spacues seats ...ITS great ...i Used to Drive His bigger Brother the Explorer but IT was Like 15-20 MPG🤣 greetings from a German faller and climber ✌️ keep it Up BE Save i Love your Channel or better your Work ..following you for almost 3 yeahrs now
Jake your honesty & modesty does you credit. You have huge experience (far more than me) and are always happy to learn. That barber chair was a very close call at least twice. A friend of mine was cutting a similar leaner (but much smaller) in the same way as you. It barber chaired, came off & hit him on the head. Broke his helmet, cracked his skull and pinned him to the ground. He survived but can no longer drive or work as his hearing & eyesight is permanently affected. The tree you were cutting would have killed you. I just don't understand why, your side of the pond, people don't use bore cuts. I know that rotten one pinched your bar, but that is really unusual. I nearly always use bore cuts for everything. It is standard good practice in Europe & for good reason - it avoids any possibility of a barber chair. If you end up with one stuck in a dangerous condition (like after it barber chaired & hung up), again over here, we would just use a winch. You were super quick & super lucky bringing that one down. It is not worth your life Jake. Take care mate.
Thank you for sharing how each environment has challenges you need to learn how to handle. Everyone watching has the chance to learn from how you safely get out of these situations. As well as gaining from your increased knowledge to be able to recognize them and perhaps even avoid getting caught themselves. A great service to all viewers.
@Guilty of Treeson, Serious observational question Why are you NOT making the Humbolt cuts larger and why when you look back at this are all your back cuts sloping ( angled ) downwards away from you instead of flat. A lot of them were also below the top line of the Humbolt cut; way below? Thanks
Thank you Jake for showing us maybe not your best day felling. It’s important to see the good and the bad to make you appreciate the good days more. Please be safe. Mark from Prescott AZ
I always learn something from your videos Treeson! Today, you were humble to point out your mistakes and also explain what could have been done. I like how you wanted to hide that piece. I chuckled on that! Some days just dont go your way and a logger once said. Today may have not gone your way, but tomorrow will be better. Keep up the great work!
I’ve noticed with thick moss trees it seems to catch chunks in your dogs and tries to throw the chain. We all have a bad day here and there, it happens. If you finish the day intact, your still winning.
Jacob.... I'm 68..... I've had several bad days.... you can't see inside a tree and you never know what's going to grab your chain the wrong way and pinch your bar and bend one or the other..... You're doing a great job.
not that you dont know what youre doing but go on a bucking billy ray binge watch. especially his earlier stuff. lots of great tips for falling. he has alot of vids on chains and bars too. im not a tree guy at all, i do concrete but ive been watching billy rays stuff for a couple years. i bought a house last year and had some pretty serious tree work to be done. went back to billys early stuff and i was able to do my own treework and it doesnt look butchered and i had a pretty easy time doing it and had fun. honestly, wish i had more tree work to do and theres not alot to practice on where i live. seriously, my state tree is the telephone pole! youll get it jacob. dont get flustered, good knowledge is hard earned.
Maybe watch some production falling videos on youtube such as Bjarne Butler. Your back cut should be around 2 inches above your wedge cut (give or take a little depending on tree size) and they should be level. Looks like your cutting downwards on your backcuts and below your wedge cut. Another couple things are that you can cut more out of your wedge face and cut more of your hinge wood. Looked like a lot was left on that cedar and that was a big part of why it barber-chaired.
Depending on where the logs go, most mills want you to have a "flush - cut" butt, therefore, leaving one side longer than the other would require additional cutting to trim the butt...
Atleast you didn't dull your chain on a rock haha! Those days were everything just goes wrong are so annoying but still great to learn from. Keep it up^^
I’ve spent a good bit of time on a saw over the years. Most of it cutting and processing 2 or 3 trees at a time. First time I spent a whole day falling to clear a lot, like 60 trees, I had the same kind of day. Part was rushing, part was the whole different mentality that comes with it. You learn from days like that. Enjoy the real that you show.
I learned to open up the face cut enough on those smaller trees. It looked like it couldn't travel enough to break the fibres and the hinge just held on.
I wanted to thank you for what y'all have posted. Last winter I spent a week at home cause I was sick and I watched ALL of your videos. Especially, the tutorial videos because I was getting ready to start dropping some very large trees for my boss on his private shooting range. I had very little knowledge on how to do that, but after watching your channel I've been able to drop cedars and a maple that was too big for my 32" bar to span and it went very well. I was even able to pick up some climbing gear from a local store and limb up and then top a tree so it could be used to mount a 12' pole with a satellite on it (to be fair, I was scared shitless while doing it, but didn't want to look like a wuss in front of the big boss). You should be proud of the quality of the tutorial videos you released cause in the past year I've been able to use that information to great effect. I thought you should know that it was helpful to at least one guy! Again, thank you! One more thing, I've been able to drop all of those trees exactly where I wanted them... Except for the big cedar. That one went 90 degrees to the right of where I wanted it to go. But it was okay cause it was in the middle of nowhere. Learning experience. It was leaning heavily in that direction and wedges were not enough.
HI, George here. True the thing about the sparks. It is a metal track and a metal chain, sparks are goina happen. I look at an old bar and the groove on a new bar, or the tracking teeth of a new chain versus an old one, add the sand from hurricane trees here near the coast, and you get sparks and loose stuff. I like your videos. Right on, George.
About the barber...... Don't be hard on yourself. That's life. Nobody was injured and it came down slow enough for you to know you're position. Keep up the good work brother.
I'm no tree guy but it looks like in most cases it would be a lot easier to put in a wedge, that you already have on you, than to carry around a heavy ass lever all day...
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 you need a sledge or axe with wedges, so already carrying extra weight. The felling level is light, not unwieldy and far more versatile in felling, levering stuck trees and turning them.
tough day. I like to do 40% face, 10% and 50% back cut when falling timber because better control and easier to wedge. First face cut and back cut should be absolutely level. And limbing sawlogs used to always require completely flush cutoffs and only on 3 sides. Very different than just removing limbs in a take down tree servce job.
I had an alder barber chair on me years ago when I was finishing up the back cut. I remember hearing the crack, then a swooshing sound and being knocked back on my butt. The trunk had hit my hard hat which is what knocked me back. I had no idea what had happened but learned later about barber chairs. Glad you didn't get hurt dealing with yours.
I've been snipping the sides before going to the back cut on leaders lately and doing like Buckin says about opening the notch helps me alot with a lean. You're a Awesome worker Jake.
I was taught one time sometimes when you get hung up like that you can take your bar off your power head and usually get your bar out since your chain is wider. Throw on another chain and finish up, then get your chain back. I’m guessing maybe your chain might have gotten tweaked when the tree went over with the saw in it. Not that anything like that has ever happened to me or anything 😁
Hi Jacob, out of curiosity do you use chisel chains, or semi chisel? As an arborist for over twenty years, I've always preferred semi chisel. Ps. I learnt from an experienced logger years ago , to stop a tree from barber chairing, because of to much lean on the tree. ( After putting your scarf in, put two cuts one on each side of the tree , the cuts are in line with the way the tree is going just above and on either side of where the scarf is ,this takes all the stress out of the timber, do them reasonably deep but not enough to affect the tree. When you put your back cut in the tree will come over no problem), believe me it really works. Ps I hope this a clear explanation, all the best from New Zealand😊
I have sometimes used Ratchetstraps around the base of the tree when felling heavy leaners that are prone to splitting, i am not a Pro and fell trees only for firewood so i can use bit more time while making felling safer.
Mistakes make you better. Every mistake we make, we learn from and become better because of it. Some of our hardest days are days that we leave being that much better because of it
I agree, if you choose to learn from it. Unfortunately not everyone does so. I try to learn from other peoples mistakes too but I've seen guys make the same mistake over and over and never learn from it.
Waiting for your videos every day jakob you are doing great job!! Keep it up and thank you!! I love that you dont cut your mistakes in the edit..be safe!! Cheers
BC Faller training standard set of videos is awesome. I hadn’t realised just how great those videos were until watching this video. The fundamentals of falling in different situations is obvious. Many of the aspect seen here are very dangerous including a back cut well below the notch meaning there is no hinge to control the fall
Your tales of 600 mile days bring back memories of when I once won a $100 bet, driving non-stop from Little Rock, AR to San Antonio, TX to attend a corp. training course, in my VW diesel rabbit! I owned two of them, putting well over 300K miles on each, driving a job in the I/T business! In fact, my 1st one had a few ticks over 400 by the time I drove it to my local dealer and traded it in! As you well know, the Germans hit one "out of the park" when they started selling those wonderful little cars! Happy trails to you, young man, and keep the cool content coming! We ENJOY the channel, & @77 I live vicariously thru you, up in those trees doing work I would have loved! Thanks!
Jake just my opinion if you ever come into a dead tree like that instead of bore cutting it to prevent Barber chair so it doesn't sit down on your saw right away I would do two nice side cuts on each side where your face cut is right behind it depending on how big it is maybe two three inches in and then back cut it real fast that way if it does Barber chair it's just a little bit right in the middle it's not usually too bad if it does usually it doesn't the side cuts going in a little bit does help if that makes sense God bless buddy
Big ups on sticking with the job, and the video, and posting it complete, that's honesty, integrity. I'll bet the next day you do there is way better, way different, might even not be raining on you !😃
Great job man it was raining here too was nasty out side by sides kept getting stuck in the mud I work for Asplundh tree expert service as a transmission line maintenance tree feller an professional A-Climber you did an amazing job I watch almost every video you post while I’m on lunch or even at home I love watching you do your thing your so funny in the most serious way always remember.. THE BAD DAYS MAKES THE GOOD ONES BETTER. You cannot get a rainbow without seeing a little rain. You stay safe out the am keep the vids coming love to hear back from you
The person who never makes mistakes is the person that does not do anything. Life is a learning experience, to quote a country song: “… Well some days you kill it and some days you just choke Some days you blast off and some days you just smoke” I still can’t believe that the pacific north west loggers still use hand felling/saw-hands. Here in the southern US IF you can get insurance for a saw-hand/non-mechanized operation it will bankrupt you, everything has gone to mechanical operations. Yes, I fully comprehend that terrain plays a huge part of that equation, but I’d hate to be the insurance company that underwrites those policies, or the logger that has to pay the premiums…
Gotta bore cut those. Lets you set your hinge dimension first. If you need a control cut on the way down you can always blast the back strap with the tip and still be in the cut. On species that are prone to splitting the bore cut is our friend.
Good video! I have said it before but your honesty and willingness to learn from others is nice to see. If you are ever in need of a helper or bucket truck and chipper down around Yacolt Wa or surrounding area shoot me a message. I’m easy going and still love doing tree work at the ago of 41 😀
I took out about 60 pine trees last winter on my property. They’re only about 60-70 feet tall. I learned very quickly you start crisscrossing poles and they snap. I also learned that some days just aren’t your day. Just have to stop and think about what you’re doing and try to execute better.
Heart was pounding like crazy watching you trying to bring down that barber chair. Nearly died 4 months ago in a similar situation when a sugar maple crushed my body. Brought back those memories haha. Stay safe out there.
Ive got the same car only 6speed manual as well as a Ram 2500 Cummins.... Love it but it sucks that diesel is now over $2 per gallon more expensive than gasoline.
Some days are better than others. Putting yourselves in situations that demand more than your skillset is the best way to improve rapidly. "Happy little mistakes". Bob Ross style haha
Hey I drive a diesel jetta too lol, they are sick timber taxi's. Don't be too hard on yourself shit happens learn from your mistake, that's all you can do.
I was taught when felling trees that the back cut should always be higher than the notch so it's less likely to result in your "barbers chair" and it creates more force to topple the tree... I could be wrong but that's what my Dad taught me many years ago
Don't you live in the Pacific Northwest I had an idea you do. If you do, go and see Buckin Billy Ray. I'm sure he would be happy to cut some trees with you and show you a few tricks
first off awesome work, im not a lumber jack, im a labourer/excavation /spotter/earth works...but i know a awesome lumber jack youtuber, his name is *Buckin' Billy Ray Smith* , you could grab some great tips and tricks some of his fells are insane... he's Canadian on the Vancouver island... and again not trying to say anything mean or what not..., anyways have fun and be safe, im all caught up on ur newest vids looks awesome
I was working in Oregon, a guy on the crew was teaching me Spanish. I pointed to the growth of green stuff on the bottom of the tree and said" Moss" . Then I pointed to the thicker growth further up and said " Moss moss". then, I pointed to the top of the tree where there wasn't any and said" no moss "
I have to hand it to you Jacob, your the only fella I know that works in the “Timber-Industry”, That drives a car. Instead of a pickup. Or, At-least, a SUV. LOL 😂 😊😊
Hey could you look at the german ,,Sicherheitsfälltechnik,, and tell me if that would prevent the tree from spliting apart? And why do you shave the moss off the tree with the chainsaw not your axe? I have heared there is sand in it, which dulls your chain.
So awesome video 👍,,,you didn't hide your mistakes and congrats for that.Not very people are video their "blowup" and that's a beauty in this one bcs It's not always everything perfect in falling. Congrats and Big respect & greetings from Serbia 🇷🇸🙏👍💪
I appreciate that you don’t edit out your mistakes! We all make similar mistakes and watching how you deal with it makes it so much more educational. Keep up the great work and stay safe!
Jacob, don't beat yourself up over a few mistakes. Your willingness to work on many skills and go far beyond your comfort zone is very admirable and continues to make you better.
When you had that barber chair, I was definitely scared for you. Be safe out there! We all love what you do!
I love that you show the "human" side of yourself Jacob. It seems most of the videos by tree care are about perfect cuts and trees that go where you want and make it seem easy. I really appreciate that you show even someone with as much experience in the tree care industry as yourself has difficulty sometimes and that is ok. Keep up the awesome content!
I really appreciate that you uploaded this video because it's such a great situation to learn from. Regardless of how much experience we have we all make mistakes and we can all learn from each other thus improving our accumulated skill.
Living is learning, the main thing is you live to tell the tale. I appreciate you sharing the good and the bad. Good luck out there, stay safe.
I started logging before I got into Arboriculture. This really brings back memories!
I remember following the fallers around doing their limbing and bucking for them. Eventually they would let me tip one here or there and I would inevitably get pinched or get a tree hung up. Was really humbling for a long time. Falling and climbing are two wildly different animals and I am forever grateful for those experiences.
Jacob your honesty shows and the mistakes you make and show teaches others what to do and not do. Like I said before you are a natural teacher,this is how you teach others both the right way and the wrong way to fell a tree. I had hoped you were not alone doing this dangerous work. Glad you are safe although wet! Stay warm and dry! Great video! Cant wait to see the next video!
Thanks for sharing your human side. Everyone has those days not everyone is honest enough to share them.
The best tree felling planner I've seen on RUclips is Bjarne Butler. Even he has trees that do go quite according to plan. Even today he posted a short section of video about an accident that occurred to a skilled faller working in an experienced team. Some days go to plan some go up in smoke, so long as they are learning days and no-one is hurt and the profitability is dented rather than smashed it is still a fair enough day. At least you don't boast about being a feller god and just edit the bull ___t out. Thanks for keeping it real. Regards from Scotland.
Sorry you had a rough day but, I did laugh out loud with the "do you think I could hide this thing" Hahaha 🤣 awesome video as always Jacob 👍🏼🪓❤️🇬🇧
Thanks for bringing us along for a day in the woods.
I do mostly residential work but occasionally get a clearing job and I am quickly reminded that logging is such a different job than what you and I are accustomed to. Keep the videos coming and never stop learning 🤘💪
And more videos with Randyisthemandy please!
Been watching your channel so much when my kids go outside they become arborist and play Guilty of Treeson. You sparked a fire in a couple youngsters. Thanks for doing what you do and sharing along the way.
That is awesome!
The Scandinavian safe corner method Sondre taught you would have saved you from getting that barber chair. He might be young, but the methods from Scandinavian logging are very old, and they work. Manual felling here is often done during wintertime and the wood can become very brittle in sub zero degrees. So felling without the safe corner method during winter would mean you are more or less guaranteed at least a couple of barber chairs a day. We of course use this method all year round, it's just a safer way of doing it on regular sized trees, especially on leaners.
Thanks for being real Jake! That’s why you’ll be the best. You love what you do and your humble! Perfect combination for becoming unstoppable! Mountain Man Tree Works.
Great video Treeson, I enjoy the timber falling vids as it's more relevant to what I do on my woodlot. Appreciate you showing what happens when things go wrong as they sometimes do, makes for a more educational video and a great learning tool, that barberchair looked nasty! Great job and stay safe out there! 🙂
Everyone is human. All we can do is learn from our mistakes in no matter what we do for a living as tradesmen. No one knows if a barber chair will happen unless it's common to the species. Your always learning thats what life is.
A long time ago I had a tree barber chair on me. It was more like an explosion than a slow split. I was lucky and learned a valuable lesson. Seeing a pro like you handle that situation is very valuable. You may not feel like its important but what you are teaching people can save lives. Keep it up and we'll keep watching.
6:32 You left a dutchman on your face cut , contributed to the barberchair .
Soon every logger you know is going to drive a Jetta
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No…..
I already drive a Jetta it my biggest saw is 50cc, does that count?
@@proknifesharpeninghey my Jetta is a 22 with the 1.5 turbo, it also gets right at 50 mpg on the highway 🤷♀️. But yeah I’m probably lacking in the size department with a measly 24” bar. It’s a grower bit a shower, I swear.
I optet for an Ford Maverick from 2003 ...2 Liter NA ...25-30 Miles per Gallon ...and i can fit all my saws in it it Has 4wd and 5 spacues seats ...ITS great ...i Used to Drive His bigger Brother the Explorer but IT was Like 15-20 MPG🤣 greetings from a German faller and climber ✌️ keep it Up BE Save i Love your Channel or better your Work ..following you for almost 3 yeahrs now
Jake your honesty & modesty does you credit. You have huge experience (far more than me) and are always happy to learn.
That barber chair was a very close call at least twice.
A friend of mine was cutting a similar leaner (but much smaller) in the same way as you. It barber chaired, came off & hit him on the head. Broke his helmet, cracked his skull and pinned him to the ground. He survived but can no longer drive or work as his hearing & eyesight is permanently affected.
The tree you were cutting would have killed you. I just don't understand why, your side of the pond, people don't use bore cuts. I know that rotten one pinched your bar, but that is really unusual. I nearly always use bore cuts for everything. It is standard good practice in Europe & for good reason - it avoids any possibility of a barber chair.
If you end up with one stuck in a dangerous condition (like after it barber chaired & hung up), again over here, we would just use a winch. You were super quick & super lucky bringing that one down. It is not worth your life Jake.
Take care mate.
Thank you for sharing how each environment has challenges you need to learn how to handle. Everyone watching has the chance to learn from how you safely get out of these situations. As well as gaining from your increased knowledge to be able to recognize them and perhaps even avoid getting caught themselves. A great service to all viewers.
@Guilty of Treeson,
Serious observational question
Why are you NOT making the Humbolt cuts larger and why when you look back at this are all your back cuts sloping ( angled ) downwards away from you instead of flat.
A lot of them were also below the top line of the Humbolt cut; way below?
Thanks
Thank you Jake for showing us maybe not your best day felling. It’s important to see the good and the bad to make you appreciate the good days more. Please be safe. Mark from Prescott AZ
I always learn something from your videos Treeson! Today, you were humble to point out your mistakes and also explain what could have been done. I like how you wanted to hide that piece. I chuckled on that! Some days just dont go your way and a logger once said. Today may have not gone your way, but tomorrow will be better. Keep up the great work!
I’ve noticed with thick moss trees it seems to catch chunks in your dogs and tries to throw the chain.
We all have a bad day here and there, it happens. If you finish the day intact, your still winning.
In my eyes, no property damage, no one got hurt, sounds like everything went right! Keep pushing jake you're an inspiration to many!
Another brilliant video Jacob! Its great that you show your mistakes, shows what its like in the real world. Look forward to part two.
Great video Jacob! I like how you admit your mistakes and explain what you should have done. You just get better and better with time.
Jacob.... I'm 68..... I've had several bad days.... you can't see inside a tree and you never know what's going to grab your chain the wrong way and pinch your bar and bend one or the other..... You're doing a great job.
not that you dont know what youre doing but go on a bucking billy ray binge watch. especially his earlier stuff. lots of great tips for falling. he has alot of vids on chains and bars too. im not a tree guy at all, i do concrete but ive been watching billy rays stuff for a couple years. i bought a house last year and had some pretty serious tree work to be done. went back to billys early stuff and i was able to do my own treework and it doesnt look butchered and i had a pretty easy time doing it and had fun. honestly, wish i had more tree work to do and theres not alot to practice on where i live. seriously, my state tree is the telephone pole!
youll get it jacob. dont get flustered, good knowledge is hard earned.
Maybe watch some production falling videos on youtube such as Bjarne Butler. Your back cut should be around 2 inches above your wedge cut (give or take a little depending on tree size) and they should be level. Looks like your cutting downwards on your backcuts and below your wedge cut. Another couple things are that you can cut more out of your wedge face and cut more of your hinge wood. Looked like a lot was left on that cedar and that was a big part of why it barber-chaired.
Depending on where the logs go, most mills want you to have a "flush - cut" butt, therefore, leaving one side longer than the other would require additional cutting to trim the butt...
There is no level cut on a leaning tree
Thanks for sharing your adventure with us Jacob. The good, and the bad, and the ugly. Its greatly appreciated.
Keep up the wonderful work.
Atleast you didn't dull your chain on a rock haha!
Those days were everything just goes wrong are so annoying but still great to learn from. Keep it up^^
I’ve spent a good bit of time on a saw over the years. Most of it cutting and processing 2 or 3 trees at a time. First time I spent a whole day falling to clear a lot, like 60 trees, I had the same kind of day. Part was rushing, part was the whole different mentality that comes with it. You learn from days like that. Enjoy the real that you show.
I learned to open up the face cut enough on those smaller trees. It looked like it couldn't travel enough to break the fibres and the hinge just held on.
I wanted to thank you for what y'all have posted. Last winter I spent a week at home cause I was sick and I watched ALL of your videos. Especially, the tutorial videos because I was getting ready to start dropping some very large trees for my boss on his private shooting range. I had very little knowledge on how to do that, but after watching your channel I've been able to drop cedars and a maple that was too big for my 32" bar to span and it went very well. I was even able to pick up some climbing gear from a local store and limb up and then top a tree so it could be used to mount a 12' pole with a satellite on it (to be fair, I was scared shitless while doing it, but didn't want to look like a wuss in front of the big boss). You should be proud of the quality of the tutorial videos you released cause in the past year I've been able to use that information to great effect.
I thought you should know that it was helpful to at least one guy!
Again, thank you!
One more thing, I've been able to drop all of those trees exactly where I wanted them... Except for the big cedar. That one went 90 degrees to the right of where I wanted it to go. But it was okay cause it was in the middle of nowhere. Learning experience. It was leaning heavily in that direction and wedges were not enough.
HI, George here. True the thing about the sparks. It is a metal track and a metal chain, sparks are goina happen. I look at an old bar and the groove on a new bar, or the tracking teeth of a new chain versus an old one, add the sand from hurricane trees here near the coast, and you get sparks and loose stuff. I like your videos. Right on, George.
About the barber...... Don't be hard on yourself. That's life.
Nobody was injured and it came down slow enough for you to know you're position.
Keep up the good work brother.
Invest in a felling lever, it’s really useful if you get a tree stuck and easier to use than wedges.
I'm no tree guy but it looks like in most cases it would be a lot easier to put in a wedge, that you already have on you, than to carry around a heavy ass lever all day...
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 you need a sledge or axe with wedges, so already carrying extra weight. The felling level is light, not unwieldy and far more versatile in felling, levering stuck trees and turning them.
You're enthusiasm is so makes this so fun to watch
Your humility does you proud.
Sometimes your the dog, sometimes your the fire hydrant 😂😂😂 best phrase I’ve heard, so true
Lessons were learned. Days like that keep you humble. Thanks for sharing. It makes great entertainment!
tough day. I like to do 40% face, 10% and 50% back cut when falling timber because better control and easier to wedge. First face cut and back cut should be absolutely level. And limbing sawlogs used to always require completely flush cutoffs and only on 3 sides. Very different than just removing limbs in a take down tree servce job.
I had an alder barber chair on me years ago when I was finishing up the back cut. I remember hearing the crack, then a swooshing sound and being knocked back on my butt. The trunk had hit my hard hat which is what knocked me back. I had no idea what had happened but learned later about barber chairs.
Glad you didn't get hurt dealing with yours.
It's said that one learns through his mistakes. As long as those mistakes don't kill you. Good job, nice learning.
I've been snipping the sides before going to the back cut on leaders lately and doing like Buckin says about opening the notch helps me alot with a lean. You're a Awesome worker Jake.
I was taught one time sometimes when you get hung up like that you can take your bar off your power head and usually get your bar out since your chain is wider. Throw on another chain and finish up, then get your chain back. I’m guessing maybe your chain might have gotten tweaked when the tree went over with the saw in it. Not that anything like that has ever happened to me or anything 😁
Hi Jacob, out of curiosity do you use chisel chains, or semi chisel?
As an arborist for over twenty years, I've always preferred semi chisel.
Ps. I learnt from an experienced logger years ago , to stop a tree from barber chairing, because of to much lean on the tree.
( After putting your scarf in, put two cuts one on each side of the tree , the cuts are in line with the way the tree is going just above and on either side of where the scarf is ,this takes all the stress out of the timber, do them reasonably deep but not enough to affect the tree.
When you put your back cut in the tree will come over no problem), believe me it really works.
Ps I hope this a clear explanation, all the best from New Zealand😊
I have sometimes used Ratchetstraps around the base of the tree when felling heavy leaners that are prone to splitting, i am not a Pro and fell trees only for firewood so i can use bit more time while making felling safer.
Mistakes make you better. Every mistake we make, we learn from and become better because of it. Some of our hardest days are days that we leave being that much better because of it
I agree, if you choose to learn from it. Unfortunately not everyone does so. I try to learn from other peoples mistakes too but I've seen guys make the same mistake over and over and never learn from it.
Learning from your mistakes make you better, admits to criss crossing logs is a mistake yet continues to do so learned nothing.
Waiting for your videos every day jakob you are doing great job!! Keep it up and thank you!!
I love that you dont cut your mistakes in the edit..be safe!! Cheers
Mistakes area part of life, if you learn from it and don’t repeat ,, a lesson well learned 🙏🏻
Thanks for showing the mistakes. Helps us all learn.
Rad video! Strange to see a lot of your backcuts sloping down towards the hinge. Are my eyes tricking me>?
BC Faller training standard set of videos is awesome. I hadn’t realised just how great those videos were until watching this video. The fundamentals of falling in different situations is obvious. Many of the aspect seen here are very dangerous including a back cut well below the notch meaning there is no hinge to control the fall
Your tales of 600 mile days bring back memories of when I once won a $100 bet, driving non-stop from Little Rock, AR to San Antonio, TX to attend a corp. training course, in my VW diesel rabbit! I owned two of them, putting well over 300K miles on each, driving a job in the I/T business! In fact, my 1st one had a few ticks over 400 by the time I drove it to my local dealer and traded it in! As you well know, the Germans hit one "out of the park" when they started selling those wonderful little cars! Happy trails to you, young man, and keep the cool content coming! We ENJOY the channel, & @77 I live vicariously thru you, up in those trees doing work I would have loved! Thanks!
Jake just my opinion if you ever come into a dead tree like that instead of bore cutting it to prevent Barber chair so it doesn't sit down on your saw right away I would do two nice side cuts on each side where your face cut is right behind it depending on how big it is maybe two three inches in and then back cut it real fast that way if it does Barber chair it's just a little bit right in the middle it's not usually too bad if it does usually it doesn't the side cuts going in a little bit does help if that makes sense God bless buddy
Big ups on sticking with the job, and the video, and posting it complete, that's honesty, integrity.
I'll bet the next day you do there is way better, way different, might even not be raining on you !😃
"Why am I wedging this stupid tree" literally LoL'd with that. I swear I say that atleast once a day 😂
Great job man it was raining here too was nasty out side by sides kept getting stuck in the mud I work for Asplundh tree expert service as a transmission line maintenance tree feller an professional A-Climber you did an amazing job I watch almost every video you post while I’m on lunch or even at home I love watching you do your thing your so funny in the most serious way always remember.. THE BAD DAYS MAKES THE GOOD ONES BETTER. You cannot get a rainbow without seeing a little rain. You stay safe out the am keep the vids coming love to hear back from you
Maybe not your best day but experience and lessons learned.
There are just days like that... nothing to do but keep on going!
I really enjoy these production falling videos man!
The person who never makes mistakes is the person that does not do anything. Life is a learning experience, to quote a country song: “… Well some days you kill it and some days you just choke
Some days you blast off and some days you just smoke”
I still can’t believe that the pacific north west loggers still use hand felling/saw-hands. Here in the southern US IF you can get insurance for a saw-hand/non-mechanized operation it will bankrupt you, everything has gone to mechanical operations. Yes, I fully comprehend that terrain plays a huge part of that equation, but I’d hate to be the insurance company that underwrites those policies, or the logger that has to pay the premiums…
6:34 you made a dutchman
Always good to check both sides before back cut. That said I've been guilty of it too.
So nice seeing that we all have those off days and it’s not just me.
Gotta bore cut those. Lets you set your hinge dimension first. If you need a control cut on the way down you can always blast the back strap with the tip and still be in the cut.
On species that are prone to splitting the bore cut is our friend.
fantastic , don't beat yourself up , we all make mistakes , your works is so tuff and dangerous
Good video! I have said it before but your honesty and willingness to learn from others is nice to see. If you are ever in need of a helper or bucket truck and chipper down around Yacolt Wa or surrounding area shoot me a message. I’m easy going and still love doing tree work at the ago of 41 😀
I took out about 60 pine trees last winter on my property. They’re only about 60-70 feet tall. I learned very quickly you start crisscrossing poles and they snap. I also learned that some days just aren’t your day. Just have to stop and think about what you’re doing and try to execute better.
I love you just alsp making a video from the miserable day's. It did look like a lot of fun. I love problemsolving.
11:30 "You know you don't have to pile up all of your brush in the woods... man that is a thin trunk." haha
Man it was spooky watching you handle that barber chair.
Wow, finally i got to see a real barberchair. Things like that can happen to the very best.
Heart was pounding like crazy watching you trying to bring down that barber chair. Nearly died 4 months ago in a similar situation when a sugar maple crushed my body. Brought back those memories haha. Stay safe out there.
At one point I thought you was going to make a ladder of wedges to climb up and take the top out 🤣
What a full gambit of things in that work day. Great job.
Stay safe
Always learning Jacob! Good job!
I now understand what a barber chair is. You do a great job. I so enjoy your videos.
Ive got the same car only 6speed manual as well as a Ram 2500 Cummins.... Love it but it sucks that diesel is now over $2 per gallon more expensive than gasoline.
Some days are better than others. Putting yourselves in situations that demand more than your skillset is the best way to improve rapidly. "Happy little mistakes". Bob Ross style haha
Hey I drive a diesel jetta too lol, they are sick timber taxi's. Don't be too hard on yourself shit happens learn from your mistake, that's all you can do.
Seeing these things happen to you makes me feel less like shit when they happen to me as im learning…
I was taught when felling trees that the back cut should always be higher than the notch so it's less likely to result in your "barbers chair" and it creates more force to topple the tree... I could be wrong but that's what my Dad taught me many years ago
I was told its more about controlling the direction of fall as for barber chair I have no idea our trees don't do that👍.
No it’s to prevent kick back if it hits another tree and pushes back
Don't you live in the Pacific Northwest I had an idea you do. If you do, go and see Buckin Billy Ray. I'm sure he would be happy to cut some trees with you and show you a few tricks
BBR is in Canada not the USA
first off awesome work, im not a lumber jack, im a labourer/excavation /spotter/earth works...but i know a awesome lumber jack youtuber, his name is *Buckin' Billy Ray Smith* , you could grab some great tips and tricks some of his fells are insane... he's Canadian on the Vancouver island... and again not trying to say anything mean or what not..., anyways have fun and be safe, im all caught up on ur newest vids looks awesome
Man mother nature really wasn't working with you that day. Great vid Jacob love the honesty we all make mistakes.
Good video Jake, too bad it was an ugly weather day. Thems the breaks.
I was working in Oregon, a guy on the crew was teaching me Spanish. I pointed to the growth of green stuff on the bottom of the tree and said" Moss" . Then I pointed to the thicker growth further up and said " Moss moss". then, I pointed to the top of the tree where there wasn't any and said" no moss "
Thanks for turning off the saw when you talk to the camera.
Diesel! We love it here! 🇪🇺 My van goes over a 1000km on one tank.
Great job on that barber chair cut man. You are amazing 💪🏾
Love your videos.
Love your honesty
I have to hand it to you Jacob, your the only fella I know that works in the “Timber-Industry”, That drives a car. Instead of a pickup. Or, At-least, a SUV. LOL 😂 😊😊
I have been working outside for nearly 30 years and there is no weather worse than the November rain.
Trying to build a log home with all them crossing logs lol. No such thing as a bad day just days we learn more than others.
Hey could you look at the german ,,Sicherheitsfälltechnik,, and tell me if that would prevent the tree from spliting apart? And why do you shave the moss off the tree with the chainsaw not your axe? I have heared there is sand in it, which dulls your chain.
So awesome video 👍,,,you didn't hide your mistakes and congrats for that.Not very people are video their "blowup" and that's a beauty in this one bcs It's not always everything perfect in falling. Congrats and Big respect & greetings from Serbia 🇷🇸🙏👍💪
good vid we need to see more of what to do when things don't happen the way you plan. Stay safe
What a frustrating day! Your videos have helped me from gettin' hurt or even killin' myself.