Sadly, especially Seventh-day Adventist pastors are excellent in clinging to every passage they can to support the tithe by twisting or taking them scriptures out of context in order to make their followers believe that tithe is still a biblical command to pay. They are excellent in quoting Malachi 3:8-10, but they are utterly wrong. When questioned, some say Noah, offered freewill sacrifices to the Lord; and Abraham and Jacob, gave a tenth of their holding to Melchizedek; but they fail to say that all they gave was a freewill offering, and not a command. Jacob said, I quote, "20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, 21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Lord be my God: 22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee." (Genesis 28:20-22) Here wee see that Jacob made a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, ... of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee." That is, if God blesses him, he will give the tenth to Him: blessing first, and giving next. Some mention Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42, but hey fail to see that they are hypocrites who act just as those hypocrites of old. But the Scripture says, I quote, "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers." (Matthew 23:4); "And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers." (Luke 11:46) They fail to tell their audience that neither Jesus nor His disciples and Christians after His ascension paid tithe. They fail to tell their audience that nowhere do we find the tithe system in the NT except a freewill offering which was freely given by brethren to either support God's work or the needy. They also fail to tell their audience that in the OT we find three tithes. The Levitical tithe, the feast tithe, and the poor tithe were not given to the same people and provided for different needs. Each was tied to the promise that if the people were faithful to observe the tithe, God would bless them. Does the Seventh-day Adventist church practice these three tithes today, or they want it all? Does the Seventh-day Adventist church help the poor, widow, orphan an needy today? No! I have never heard of! But, if he Seventh-day Adventist church is consistent, why don't they practice the tithing system as in the mosaic law? Simply because the mosaic law has been done away with at the cross; yet, they still cling to the so-called "tithe" so they can fill their coffers with money to live like the priests did in the OT as described in Ezekiel 34:2-4. Interesting practice held by Seventh-day Adventist pastors today; they are scaring their sheep when they notice they don't pay their tithe by telling them how holy the tithe is. And, if they are unfaithful to make their contribution, to put their tenth into their coffers, they say they are missing out God's blessings. But they even go one step farther by telling them that if they are not faithful in tithe and offering, they are robbing God, thus making them robbers. What a terrible lie! But I just wonder, how many Seventh-day Adventists pastors would remain in ministry had their salaries cut by half and required to sell their big properties or their second property; their second and third car; and their unnecessary assets and give it to he poor, widow, orphan and needy? I quess most of them would walk away as the rich young ruler in Matthew 19:16-30. How sad!
The ignorant and the unlearned are paying tithes to the leaders of the sda church organization. The leaders of the sda church organization are using the levitical law of God, to receive tithes and offerings from the church members. Gentile preachers have no authority from God, to receive tithes and offerings from Jews or gentiles, because God ordained the tribe of Levi, to receive tithes and offerings from the children of Israel, according to the law. { Hebrews 7:5 } Preachers are robbing God of the heave offering, because God requires a heave offering of all the tithes. { Numbers 18:28 } Preachers doing the work of the Lord, they can eat and drink, for preaching the gospel. { Luke 10:7 } & { 1 Timothy 5:18 } It's all about giving to the poor. { Galatians 2:10 } { Acts 20:35 } { Matthew 10:8 }
The SDA are thieves, liars, and hypocrites, when it comes down to keeping the law of the old covenant. (1) I say they are thieves, because they are robbing God of the heave offering. God requires a heave offering of all the tithes. { Numbers 18:28 } (2) I say they are liars, because Gentiles have no authority from God to receive tithes and offerings from Jews or gentiles, because God ordained the tribe of Levi to receive tithes and offerings from the children of Israel, according to the law. { Hebrews 7:5 } (3) I say they are hypocrites, because on the Sabbath they cook food, or drive their cars. Jesus called the Pharisees hypocrites, and said, do not each one of you on the Sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering? { Luke 13:15 } (4) The SDA is under the blessings and curses of the law. { Deuteronomy chapter 28 } (5) The SDA is a debtor to keep the whole law: for it is written, cursed is everyone that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. { Galatians 3:10 } (6) The SDA is not tithing to the Levi tribe in Jerusalem, as the Lord commanded Moses. (7) The SDA is not keeping the ordinances of the ten commandments of God. For God commanded, saying, he that curses father or mother, let him die the death. { Matthew 15:3-6 } A certain man was gathering sticks on the Sabbath day, and God said to Moses, he shall surely be put to death. { Numbers 15:32-36 } Keeping the ten commandments of God it means, to keep the ordinances of the ten commandments, because without the ordinances of the ten commandments, the commandments are made of none effect. The SDA is a man made religion, and they are teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.
@@RTG1031 Yes, but how many of the poor have been supported with the tithe? The Good Samaritan offering is not the tithe from what I know, whereas the tithe of every three years in the OT was to help the poor, the widows, the orphans, etc.. So, if today's tithe is biblical, as the church claims, then why does the church not collect all the three tithes of the OT? How come that the church claims only one tithe and not all three? You cannot have one without the others, they need to be consistent. Or, is it not?
Go get a job!!! Tithing in the blibical days was giving to the poor and it wasn’t monetary values !! Ppl spreading the gospel back then weren’t paid to do so. Why should I work and give you my money when I can help poor ppl with it? Get a job !! Preaching the word of God should be free not being paid to do so!!
If someone can give me just one verse about how tithe changed from agricultural produce to money, I might just tithing again. Until then, I'm convinced it's a money making scheme by the SDA church and all other churches. Pastors and other officers sirting in church offices must go work like the rest of us. It's not as though us as ordinary members do nothing to serve the church. In my congregation, we are lucky if the Pastor comes to our church once a quarter. The rest of the time, 'volunteers' who don't even see a cent of money run the church on their own and all the 'tithe' goes to the conference...meanwhile oflur orphans and widows are suffering...
Excellent presentation
Agree 100%
The question is who decides that tithes should go to Conference and the offerings is for the church? Can you give me a bible verse Pastor?
There is absolutely none scripture to prove what he said they make their members scared by reading malachi 3
I like to know what's wrong with me giving 10% to the church my pastor got his own agenda he do not preach the truth and I am a 7-Day Adventist
How?
Show me we’re Jesus said give 10%?
whats a tenth?
Jesus and the father are one and the same. The father asked for 10% so.....
Sadly, especially Seventh-day Adventist pastors are excellent in clinging to every passage they can to support the tithe by twisting or taking them scriptures out of context in order to make their followers believe that tithe is still a biblical command to pay. They are excellent in quoting Malachi 3:8-10, but they are utterly wrong.
When questioned, some say Noah, offered freewill sacrifices to the Lord; and Abraham and Jacob, gave a tenth of their holding to Melchizedek; but they fail to say that all they gave was a freewill offering, and not a command. Jacob said, I quote,
"20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,
21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Lord be my God:
22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee." (Genesis 28:20-22)
Here wee see that Jacob made a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, ... of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee." That is, if God blesses him, he will give the tenth to Him: blessing first, and giving next.
Some mention Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42, but hey fail to see that they are hypocrites who act just as those hypocrites of old.
But the Scripture says, I quote,
"For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers." (Matthew 23:4);
"And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers." (Luke 11:46)
They fail to tell their audience that neither Jesus nor His disciples and Christians after His ascension paid tithe. They fail to tell their audience that nowhere do we find the tithe system in the NT except a freewill offering which was freely given by brethren to either support God's work or the needy.
They also fail to tell their audience that in the OT we find three tithes. The Levitical tithe, the feast tithe, and the poor tithe were not given to the same people and provided for different needs. Each was tied to the promise that if the people were faithful to observe the tithe, God would bless them.
Does the Seventh-day Adventist church practice these three tithes today, or they want it all? Does the Seventh-day Adventist church help the poor, widow, orphan an needy today? No! I have never heard of! But, if he Seventh-day Adventist church is consistent, why don't they practice the tithing system as in the mosaic law? Simply because the mosaic law has been done away with at the cross; yet, they still cling to the so-called "tithe" so they can fill their coffers with money to live like the priests did in the OT as described in Ezekiel 34:2-4.
Interesting practice held by Seventh-day Adventist pastors today; they are scaring their sheep when they notice they don't pay their tithe by telling them how holy the tithe is. And, if they are unfaithful to make their contribution, to put their tenth into their coffers, they say they are missing out God's blessings. But they even go one step farther by telling them that if they are not faithful in tithe and offering, they are robbing God, thus making them robbers. What a terrible lie!
But I just wonder, how many Seventh-day Adventists pastors would remain in ministry had their salaries cut by half and required to sell their big properties or their second property; their second and third car; and their unnecessary assets and give it to he poor, widow, orphan and needy? I quess most of them would walk away as the rich young ruler in Matthew 19:16-30.
How sad!
The ignorant and the unlearned are paying tithes to the leaders of the sda church organization.
The leaders of the sda church organization are using the levitical law of God, to receive tithes and offerings from the church members.
Gentile preachers have no authority from God, to receive tithes and offerings from Jews or gentiles, because God ordained the tribe of Levi, to receive tithes and offerings from the children of Israel, according to the law.
{ Hebrews 7:5 }
Preachers are robbing God of the heave offering, because God requires a heave offering of all the tithes.
{ Numbers 18:28 }
Preachers doing the work of the Lord, they can eat and drink, for preaching the gospel.
{ Luke 10:7 }
&
{ 1 Timothy 5:18 }
It's all about giving to the poor.
{ Galatians 2:10 }
{ Acts 20:35 }
{ Matthew 10:8 }
The SDA are thieves, liars, and hypocrites, when it comes down to keeping the law of the old covenant.
(1) I say they are thieves, because they are robbing God of the heave offering.
God requires a heave offering of all the tithes.
{ Numbers 18:28 }
(2) I say they are liars, because
Gentiles have no authority from God to receive tithes and offerings from Jews or gentiles, because
God ordained the tribe of Levi to receive tithes and offerings from the children of Israel, according to the law.
{ Hebrews 7:5 }
(3) I say they are hypocrites, because on the Sabbath they cook food, or drive their cars.
Jesus called the Pharisees hypocrites, and said, do not each one of you on the Sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?
{ Luke 13:15 }
(4) The SDA is under the blessings and curses of the law.
{ Deuteronomy chapter 28 }
(5) The SDA is a debtor to keep the whole law: for it is written, cursed is everyone that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
{ Galatians 3:10 }
(6) The SDA is not tithing to the Levi tribe in Jerusalem, as the Lord commanded Moses.
(7) The SDA is not keeping the ordinances of the ten commandments of God.
For God commanded, saying, he that curses father or mother, let him die the death.
{ Matthew 15:3-6 }
A certain man was gathering sticks on the Sabbath day, and God said to Moses, he shall surely be put to death.
{ Numbers 15:32-36 }
Keeping the ten commandments of God it means, to keep the ordinances of the ten commandments, because without the ordinances of the ten commandments, the commandments are made of none effect.
The SDA is a man made religion, and they are teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.
Yes they do support the widows etc. It's called the Good samaritan offering
@@RTG1031 Yes, but how many of the poor have been supported with the tithe? The Good Samaritan offering is not the tithe from what I know, whereas the tithe of every three years in the OT was to help the poor, the widows, the orphans, etc.. So, if today's tithe is biblical, as the church claims, then why does the church not collect all the three tithes of the OT? How come that the church claims only one tithe and not all three? You cannot have one without the others, they need to be consistent. Or, is it not?
Go get a job!!! Tithing in the blibical days was giving to the poor and it wasn’t monetary values !! Ppl spreading the gospel back then weren’t paid to do so. Why should I work and give you my money when I can help poor ppl with it? Get a job !! Preaching the word of God should be free not being paid to do so!!
Tell them!!!!
If someone can give me just one verse about how tithe changed from agricultural produce to money, I might just tithing again. Until then, I'm convinced it's a money making scheme by the SDA church and all other churches. Pastors and other officers sirting in church offices must go work like the rest of us. It's not as though us as ordinary members do nothing to serve the church. In my congregation, we are lucky if the Pastor comes to our church once a quarter. The rest of the time, 'volunteers' who don't even see a cent of money run the church on their own and all the 'tithe' goes to the conference...meanwhile oflur orphans and widows are suffering...
Required 10% money and 1/7 our time
The tithe is mosaic law
FALSE TEACHINGS