The 2023 All-Australian who is the WORST kick in the AFL right now - SEN
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Champion Data's Daniel Hoyne joins Kane Cornes and Gerard Healy to break down all the numbers behind Round 3, only on SEN!
0:00 It's still too early
3:00 Changing kick-ins
9:04 Problems at the Crows
13:08 The unsung Blues
16:07 Guess who
19:14 Port Adelaide on watch
22:22 Not all bad at the Eagles
25:27 Nick Vlastuin
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vlastuin has gone under the radar for like 7 straight years bro 😭
Facts
He had his worst year last year
It doesn’t matter how good Tiges players are….they’re always the last in line for all Australian team…it’s just a bad joke.
Like the free kick, 50 m penalty or missed free kick tally against the Tigers.
Stats don’t lie….& Kane, no we won’t trade him….that would be as foolish as your click bait commentary
@@cameronmilne5319Tom Lynch not making AA after losing the Coleman by 2 goals with 6 less games played. Tim Taranto not making the AA squad despite being up there with Brownlow votes. Plenty more examples.
The fact vlaustin hasn’t got an All Australian criminal. Hopefully he keeps his form for the year and gets AA. So happy to see him finally getting the recognition he deserves. One of the best defenders in the game
I think he said "If you like" 34 times. Probably another champion data record.
On the Blue Abroad podcast, Dan Williams aka Pommy has created his own champion data which does ratings for all Carlton players that have played in the most recent game and puts them up against every player in the competition in the exact same position from the most recent game and Jordan Boyd usually rates between a 6.5 to 8.0 which puts him between above average and very good for a back pocket week in week out.
Yeah! Dan does a great job, and it is a great way of doing the stats and scores👏
Vlastuin will never get in with Korn there
Hates Richmond go back to journalism in Adelaide Korn
The “you know” counter is off the charts on this bloke
Best segment on this channel
Nick Vlastuin is massively appreciated at Tigerland and is a fave of the Tiger Army. For some reason media types always overlook his exploits. Nice to see he is getting some long overdue kudos.
So what happens if a kick in becomes a turnover? Does that go into a separate turnover stat?
Dawson is the only senior player worth keeping in the midfield for Adelaide, Laird/Crouch no hurt factor whatsoever, All opposition attention goes towards Dawson
To be fair, Laird has had opposition attention in the past but with Crouch in the mid as well, he's just not damaging anymore
Crouch will get dropped if they lose again to Demons. And they should, he's a handball happy slug. Its either him or Laird, they cant play both
@@matthewanderson4378false. Crouch has been amazing so far this season, he isn’t remotely the reason why the crows have been horrible so far.
@@ryanmckaye8212 why? Because he gets 20 handballs a game but zero impact?.....if its not him dropped itll be Laird.
One of them 2 has to go and then the extra mid time go to Rachele,Rankine,Soligo etc
That's just my take on it. Im not a Crows fan, just a neutral observer
@@ryanmckaye8212 stats dont win games of football, hence why Nicks had Crouch playing Sanfl most of last year.
Just using that as a guide im guessing he'll be next on chopping block if they lose again to Melbourne
Which they probably will on current form
To be fair the Dees midfield should be lickin their lips
That’s like saying that in rugby league, conversions from right in front shouldn’t count towards the points record.
Bruhn and Clark for Geelong
Dempsey as well
@@ginuman1600Add Holmes, Miers, Close, Stengle
Bruhn is ripping it. Very exciting footy from a young kid - could be captain in a few years I think
Mmmm Kane was very quiet when talking about port??
Not many people here seem to know the rules.
Kick-ins are not a stat unless you play on.
Back in the day to play on you had to kick it to yourself (not a stat) then the second kick was now a stat.
Now though the person on the mark is further back. They need to stand. Plus the player only needs to leave the defensive goalsquare to play on.
These changes mean there are more "play on" kick-ins so therefore more stats.
Kane's World
This show is unbelievably good, for the sole reason that people can come on and can just straight up tell Kane or Healy they are wrong, and are allowed to justify their position. Conpared to the usual ego driven footy shows it's fantastic.
The midfielders and forwards get so much love compared to defenders. What’s wrong with them getting a few more disposals a game.
Imo the Crows have to drop one of Crouch or Laird. I think it will be Crouch personally
They need more speed in middle and hurt factor
I actually dont get the hate towards the kicks in being counted as a stat.... the kick in is earned because the oppostion team kicked a behind 🤔 the fact it has never been counted for decades is a bigger suprirse
Sort of hypercritical, given they don't get angsty about free kicks due to out on the full.
If you kick in and it's a turnover, that should get counted as a stat, therefore so too should a good kick in
Aren't they talking about chip kicks to themself?
They are talking about any kick in
@@89joshuadavies you no longer have to do that. That's the rule change.
So you used to have to do that little kick to yourself then you could play on. That first kick was never a stat (and still isn't).
The difference now is that once you play on (running outside the goal square) that is a stat. That happens far more often now because the man on the mark has been moved back (and has to stand) and the kicker just has to leave the square for play on.
@@TeddyG-dh8pu no they're not.
Kicking in is a disposal
Get over it Kane
Actually it's not.
Playing on from a kick in is, and has always been. The difference is that they changed the play-on from kick in as you used to have to kick it to yourself first.
what do we need to do for kane to realise richmond aren’t a joke yet? first round was horror ill give you that… played a better game than carlton, just got beaten down by 3 first half injuries and very poor umpiring. was 7 points within port at 3qt with our lowest pressure rating since 2015 and with like 10 players under 50 games and even more heinous umpiring… we did give up in the last tho which was awful. but then beat sydney with 10 players under 50 games again and umpiring that slightly favoured sydney. and he’s talking about west coast beating us. things would need to go awfully wrong for us to lose that…
Poor Umpiring lol
The Tigers at best are a 9th-12the placed team. At worst you'll be bottom 4
@@matthewanderson4378 i mean yeah probs but if not for injury and umpire luck we could easily make the 8.
Some kick-ins ARE meaningless (chipping it 15m to the back pocket), but others are high-risk penetrating kicks that hit a teammate on the 50 arc and start a chain of disposals that lead to a brilliant team goal. Great kick-in takers are a real weapon. And if they're so unworthy of being put down as a disposal, then what about when players chip the ball around at certain points of the game to waste time? I'd argue those uncontested kicks and marks are just as "unworthy" as kick-ins. Kane's just chatting shit as always
100%
Some years back, Collingwood's Leon Davis had 50+ consecutive Kick Outs TO ADVANTAGE. That's certainly impactful.Has to count as a meaningful stat!
@@lensteward9784 it didn't though.
Probably Oscar Allen and Jacob Van Rooyen maybe. Don’t know
Lol what
I honestly don't understand.. What do you expect from the Eagles at this point? They've had one of the hardest fixtures so far.. It's obvious that they're a bottom 8 team and they had aome tough matches.. Who actually expected them to win?
They can only improve one step at a time and they're actually doing that
Interesting when Daniel gives some positives around the Eagles start to the year Kane goes quiet. Kane's comment about the last talking point being appropriately on the Eagles is another example of a salty ex- Port player. Very funny but certainly not unbiased as always Kane.
ATM vlaustin is def in AA team
the fact that vlastuin being there with stewart is even a question in anyone’s mind is so indicative of how richmond are looked at by everyone else. vlastuin has done what stewart has done for the exact same amount of time but the difference is, vlastuin has always had to defend someone at the same time. if vlastuin was just told to play as the 7th defender every game and to do what he likes he’d have broken the 10 intercept mark record years ago. anyone who watched the 2020 grand final documentary thing which showed the 2 coaches box’s knows the difference between stewart and vlastuin. vlastuin got injured so he’s kinda irrelevant in this point but stewart was killing us up to half time playing as a wide open “nude” as dimma called him. all that happened was dimma realised the impact and that it’d be the difference and just addressed it and stewart was nonexistent… all it takes is one good coach with good enough players and stewart will be useless…
What a genius you are! It’s clear based on this simple analysis that dealing with Stewart is as simple as putting someone on him. I’m certain other professional and experienced AFL coaches have all failed to try this simple strategy and you’re the genius who has cracked the code 😂 funny that throughout his 151 career to date, Stewart has been “shut down” literally a handful of times. Pretty sure every coach goes in with a plan like this and it rarely ever works, because Stewart is an absolute gun! Not only that, but if you ever bother to watch Geelong games rather than highlights, you’d notice he also stays accountable and keeps his opponents quiet. That 2020 GF turnaround was more due to the pressure the Tigers brought in the second half and Geelong’s controlled game plan completely falling apart, rather than just putting someone on Stewart to shut him down. The difference between Stewart and vlastuin is that even when surrounded by an incompetent defence, Stewart still shines (like last year’s AA in a shambles defence). Where’s vlastuin been since Richmond’s drop off? I’ll tell you where, failing like the rest of his teammates. He was only good when he had a good team and system around him. Without that he’s nothing special, as proven by his ZERO AA’s so far. Comparing them is laughable at best, and outright delusional at worst.
@@alborzajeli768 i’m not reading all that friend.
@@samysull333 lol why am I not surprised. I'm assuming you're a youngster. The new generation unfortunately has the attention span of a goldfish, all the screens from an early age have sufficiently cooked your brains. I often see this now for anything longer than 2-3 sentences, which is so very sad.. That's okay friend, hopefully you're able to recover in due time. Best of luck x
@@alborzajeli768 nah i read it lmao it was just all such stupid points i couldn’t be fucked responding. vlastuin’s “fallen off” because he’s had recurring injuries in the last 3 seasons… i also literally quite clearly stated it has to be good players and a good coach to negate stewart’s effect. specifically bc of nicks’ embarrassing attempt to play pedlar on him… and tbh it seems to me like vlastuin’s been held back by having good defenders surrounding him considering how his footy’s getting better the further he gets from his prime but whilst the defenders around him are getting worse… like there’s 0 logic to anything you said…
@@samysull333that was the dumbest logic used that I've read this week.
Christ we are 3 games in calm down.
Yeah, lets not discuss footy until round...???
content creators mate, they need to pump this stuff out to make money ect...
you must be 12@@tin-n-tan
@@nathand4500 round 12¿ okay.
Right? After 2 games we were seeing articles about "concerning trend of team Xs game" etc
Nick Martin, the wish version of daicos.
Talking about the Eagles like they are under 12s. Sack the coach and move on.
First!
Your parents must be so proud
hoyne either needs a new barber or has the strangest hairlines in the world.
tom powell the 7th best player in the comp based on ball use despite having one game with 26 touches, little over 20% turned into score involvements and 1 was a goal assist, second game was great, 28, 2 goals, 9 score involvements but no goal assists, third game was 29 1 goal 6 score involvements. so that’s 27.7 disposals, 6.7 score involvements 1 goal and 0.3 goal assists a game in a team that’s averaging 19.7 scores a game… (12 goals). baker started the year like shit and is already at those stats with less disposals per game. there’d be countless players with equal disposals having way more impact per touch than this fool… taranto has had a pretty poor start to the year and still averages more scoreboard impact per game than this kid. like come on. there’d be multiple midfielders at each top 4 side doing better than powell and that doesn’t account for forwards and defenders and rucks doing better than him…
Imagine getting angry at statistics 🤡
@@PWD65 yeah bro i’m so angry bro. 🤦♂️
@@samysull333 "this fool" "this kid" calling a young player names because your beloved tigs aren't getting glazed, just relax it's not that deep
@@PWD65 i’m not asking for tigers players to be rated above him lmao. they shouldn’t be rated above him bc they have less touches but do more on average with each touch, i’m saying there’s better candidates in teams like sydney melbourne carlton gws etc… also if you perceive those terms as me being angry toughen up lmao…
The issue with score involvements is that it relies on the good work and talent of players forward of your possession. Therefore score involvements, while a useful impact concept, aren't the only useful impact concept.
Furthermore the roos are missing a mobile tall at centre half forward, so that often means two or three more possessions in a scoring chain. This decreases the likelihood that Powell would get a score involvement, given he is typically the first or second possession.