Hunt on the Rocky moutain front in Northern Montana...I have 2 male Caucasian Shepard's and they are the best grizzly and camp defenders...Bears do not want the drama of a fight with these boys! Loyal and absolutely fearless when it comes to keeping us safe. They lay by our tents all night and these boys are more nocturnal. I have a rare breed of them and would interested in getting u a pup Brian!
I have a boxer cross black lab. Very intelligent and stays right by my side. She knows when I’m hunting and stays quiet and just observes until the animal is on the ground. Can be hard to find a good dog, and they are almost priceless. Wish they would live longer!
Drahthaars are the dog! They are easy going at home and non stop in the field! Take mine shed hunting and use for ducks and upland they are unreal smart easy to teach
Really appreciate the podcast. With the rise in bear encounters I have been trying to increase my education on bears. I have seen all the typical stuff on avoiding bears but this podcast went way beyond the typical pointers, especially the idea of using dogs while hunting. I had not considered that but will now. Thank you
Plott Hound. Mine has a natural hunting and tracking instinct and is super easy to train; very smart dog. They were originally bred in NC for black bear hunting.
I've seen chihuahuas that were fearless bro. Pretty sure they would go after a griz. 🤣😂 No seriously, the Plott Hound is an excellent choice. They are bred for bear hunting from North Carolina. They also make excellent family dogs. They are my number one pick.
I vote for the Stumpy Tailed Heeler. It's a naturally bobtailed or tailless, medium-sized cattle dog similar and/or related to the Australian Cattle Dog. The Australian Stumpy Tail Cattle Dog was developed in Australia to herd cattle, and descends from crosses between European herding dogs and the Australian dingo. They are super smart, loyal, and tough!
I know 3 Bernese mountain dogs and they are all wimps but really loyal. Great point on the hybrid vigor the pruebreds have alot of issues. Ridgebacks are underrated. Drathaars are criminally underrated as a multipurpose breed.
Great Podcast Brian. Lots of good nuggets of info in there especially about camping and storing food. I was attacked by a Grizzly two years ago in Montana. We surprised the sow and her cub and she definitely surprised us! Amazing how fast they move for such a big creature. Bear spray saved my life. I pack both a pistol and bear spray, just didn't have enough time to grab it. Thankfully my hunting partner Greg was with me and was able to spray her as she was on me. This attack has definitely changed the way I hunt and move through Grizzly country. I'll be on a week long hunt in Wyoming this September so the thought of camping in Grizzly country has definitely been weighing on my mind. You definitely brought up some good ideas on food storage that I'll take to heart. It was good to hear you say you'll be reaching for your Bear spray first as a lot of damage can happen after a Grizz has been loaded up with some lead. Looking forward to hearing your followup on this one.
One down side to glock/handguns Is when the bear is on you if the barrel or slide is pressed against them the slide pushes back out of batter while a revolver can be held against the bear and still shoot
True. There's pros and cons with each when comparing autos to revolvers. Actually you might have listed the only con to the auto (Glock anyway) that i can think of. I live on a few hundred acre place north of Boulder Montana. My dad lives on the same place in a separate cabin. Supposedly there are grizzlies in the elk horn mountains just to the east of us a few miles so we always know it's possible that a grizz could come strolling across our place at any time. My dad was carrying a S&W 357 revolver but after i let him shoot my Glock 20 he ordered one right away. 16 rounds vs 7 rounds. Softer and flatter recoil because of the slide movement and low bore axis makes follow up shots faster. No double action heavy trigger to potentially throw off accuracy and the Glock is lighter. I really like having that many rounds because i want to be shooting at the bear, if i can, when it's further out coming at me rather than waiting until it's closer because I'm scared I'm going to run out of rounds. Really with any pistol you need to put one in the dome of a grizzly to stop it so i want as many chances of doing that as possible. After training with the S&W 357 revolver and the Glock 20 I'm taking the Glock hands down and, like i said, the possibility of actually running into a grizz is very real for me and i take it seriously without any emotion for one tool or another. Whichever one i think makes me more safe is the one i use all the time.
@@mnman8511 oh I’m pro handgun all the way I carry a shadow systems mr920 basically a texas made glock 19 clone with some modifications revolvers are great but I’m accurate with my handgun and have more ammo carry good ammunition and shoot them a lot and muscle memory will take over
I try to hang my stuff where i can see it so im not surprised by a visitor. I use a line between 2 trees with webbing & clips on the ends for the ties. Pulley for food line. Bears will absolutely go out on a line. Lol (typed just before you mentioned) I appreciate the wind and split stash tips. Im terrible for coffee in the tent. Sugar can fall. The one bear i had to kill in defense had once got my food after i passed out lazy one night. It skipped all the food and was gorging on the hot chocolate powder. It went away but became a problem a couple weeks later. Ungulate blood on my clothes while i sleep isnt good but its fish guts that make me really nervous. As far as getting away from a kill site, im a firm believer that animals can time your speed and distance by track scent. I get to carry bear spray and a unique knife. They made spears illegal. ...Canada I tend to hunt small areas and i truly believe the animals know me. I have spent a couple decades in the woods. Seem to have little trouble. On using spray, i tell people to spray and side step quickly. I have deployed spray in tests quite a few times and i really haven't seen the wind issues. I have hit pockets in rock/ground and had the spray come straight back at me like when you try to wash a spoon at the wrong angle. Just to say a griz took out a family in Canada up near jasper back in the 70's or 80's. 2 males attempting to fight it didn't even slow it down. My dogs are a life saver but 1 passed away a few months ago and i wont leave 1 alone to hunt. They are just for detection, I specifically train them not to get aggressive although they do get to hunt. I knew an old mushroom picker on Vancouver island that would take his dogs sheddings and spread them from hip to shoulder height on camp perimeter. He firmly believed that the high placement made the bears think it was an elk sized dog and scared them. I feel its like a lock. Only keeps honest people out... Not sure i have an opinion on dog breeds. My current dog is the 3rd generation ive had the fortune to have as family. Ideally the dog gives you a warning growl and then waits for a command. Try to avoid risking the dog as an offensive tool. If you're considering climate for the dog, also consider the animals color. Dark colors will stay warmer, light cooler. My bear issue was entirely my fault. On the night things went down, i had chased it off several times already that day and it tried to flank me against a wall. When i realized that, i backed out and went back to camp. Should have left. Got a picture of it walking almost over my fire and past my cooler to corner me at tent right before i had to deal with it. According to 'BearSmart' quite a few attacks happen when a dog gives chase and triggers a defensive position. The dog turns around to run back to owner and bear follows enraged.
The thing about big bore revolver is you will probably only get 1 or 2 shots.but with a 10mm or a 460 Rowland in a auto you stand a bitter chance of get more than 1 on target. I have scared several black bear sows with cubs with a crimson trace Lazer grips on my pistol thay don't like the light on ther face . I don't know if grizzly would react the same.
We are heading toward a prohibition on bear bag hanging in our local NF area because of poorly hung bags that our bears have become pretty good at retrieving.
I'll share my two cents on what pistol to carry but everyone should carry what they feel makes them the safest of course. There's pros and cons with each when comparing autos to revolvers. Actually the only con i can think of with a Glock auto is that it could potentially come out of battery if the muzzle was pushed up against a bear right on top of you but just move your hand back and pull the trigger until it goes bang. I live on a few hundred acre place north of Boulder Montana with my wife and kids. My dad lives on the same place in a separate cabin. Supposedly there are grizzlies in the elk horn mountains just to the east of us a few miles so we always know it's possible that a grizz could come strolling across our place at any time. My dad was carrying a S&W 357 revolver but after i let him shoot my Glock 20 back to back with his revolver he ordered a Glock right away. 16 rounds vs 7 rounds. Softer and flatter recoil because of the slide movement and low bore axis makes follow up shots faster. No heavy double action trigger to potentially throw off accuracy and the Glock is lighter. I really like having that many rounds because i want to be shooting at the bear, if i can, when it's further out coming at me rather than waiting until it's closer because I'm scared I'm going to run out of rounds. I shoot Extreme Penetrator ammunition. Really with any pistol you need to put one in the dome of a grizzly to stop it so i want as many chances of doing that as possible. After training with the S&W 357 revolver and the Glock 20 I'm taking the Glock hands down and, like i said, the possibility of actually running into a grizz is very real for me and i take it seriously without any emotion for one tool or another. Whichever one i think makes me more safe is the one i use all the time.
I'm thinking a Great Pyrenees would be a good choice. Able to be a day to day pet but will protect you and other animals to the death. There is a reason sheep herders use them.
Great topic. I’ve had encounters with black bears in Canada, California, and Washington. The bears in CA and WA did the opposite of what most people think bears do during an encounter, that is to say, they didn’t scare off easily. The bears in WA (Olympic Nat Park high divide loop) couldn’t have cared less that we were there, and one even came toward us as we were yelling. The bears near our cottage in northern Ontario are very much afraid of people, probably because they see so few of them. I’ve become more concerned about bears instead of less concerned as I’ve spent more time in the woods. I’m also ultra careful with food and scents. I put some thoughts about spray versus a handgun into a video: ruclips.net/video/evEscbW2GEk/видео.html
I love the idea of having dogs along fir protection,i have 2 180lb kangals and thats what they were bred for killing wolves and running off bear but i would never put a pack on them if they ever had to defend against a wolf or bear it would be like you fighting mike tyson with your pack on,your already at a disadvantage and now the pack is almost crippling to the point of a death sentence, my dogs are fast but i think a griz or even a black would catch them and with a pack on it would be hopeless
I've thought about bringing my dog on hunts. Not sure if a "hiking companion" would be legal here while hunting bears. Just because the way the law is written. I'm going to ask the warden about this not like I have a hound dog
Good stuff Brian! I just bought the Keni Chest Holder for my 10MM. I live in N/W Montana, where we have a ton of grizz. My main interest was to always have my 10 on me regardless of the status of my backpack. Thanks for your content.
RUclips is blocking your stuff brother! Hopefully they won't block your bear hunts with Ryan!!! And we are still waiting for your elk hunt videos!!! Good luck!!
“I want to be able to kick a dog in the head when it pisses me off. and I want it to just roll over and say sorry Dad, not go around for the next week questioning whether I love it or not. I need a tougher dog.” Was this a joke Brian? It went over my head if it was. If it wasn’t a joke, that’s fucked up man.
It’s a cartridge, the bullet is only the projectile. Caliber is only bore diameter, chambering or cartridge is the term you should use. Don’t make it easy to write you off by not knowing the basic terminology. Good info otherwise.
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Hunt on the Rocky moutain front in Northern Montana...I have 2 male Caucasian Shepard's and they are the best grizzly and camp defenders...Bears do not want the drama of a fight with these boys! Loyal and absolutely fearless when it comes to keeping us safe. They lay by our tents all night and these boys are more nocturnal. I have a rare breed of them and would interested in getting u a pup Brian!
I have a boxer cross black lab. Very intelligent and stays right by my side. She knows when I’m hunting and stays quiet and just observes until the animal is on the ground. Can be hard to find a good dog, and they are almost priceless. Wish they would live longer!
You have to carry what you can shoot accurately and fast. I carry a ported 44mag and my wife carry’s a 10mm glock both are effective
Ya gotta bear with it or you will Bearly make it 😁
Drahthaars are the dog! They are easy going at home and non stop in the field! Take mine shed hunting and use for ducks and upland they are unreal smart easy to teach
Really appreciate the podcast. With the rise in bear encounters I have been trying to increase my education on bears. I have seen all the typical stuff on avoiding bears but this podcast went way beyond the typical pointers, especially the idea of using dogs while hunting. I had not considered that but will now. Thank you
Plott Hound. Mine has a natural hunting and tracking instinct and is super easy to train; very smart dog. They were originally bred in NC for black bear hunting.
I've seen chihuahuas that were fearless bro. Pretty sure they would go after a griz. 🤣😂 No seriously, the Plott Hound is an excellent choice. They are bred for bear hunting from North Carolina. They also make excellent family dogs. They are my number one pick.
I vote for the Stumpy Tailed Heeler. It's a naturally bobtailed or tailless, medium-sized cattle dog similar and/or related to the Australian Cattle Dog. The Australian Stumpy Tail Cattle Dog was developed in Australia to herd cattle, and descends from crosses between European herding dogs and the Australian dingo. They are super smart, loyal, and tough!
Check the Dingo Bleu heeler. These dogs are smart and fearless loyal and very protective. The calihunta leopard dog is spot on.
I know 3 Bernese mountain dogs and they are all wimps but really loyal. Great point on the hybrid vigor the pruebreds have alot of issues. Ridgebacks are underrated. Drathaars are criminally underrated as a multipurpose breed.
Great Podcast Brian. Lots of good nuggets of info in there especially about camping and storing food. I was attacked by a Grizzly two years ago in Montana. We surprised the sow and her cub and she definitely surprised us! Amazing how fast they move for such a big creature. Bear spray saved my life. I pack both a pistol and bear spray, just didn't have enough time to grab it. Thankfully my hunting partner Greg was with me and was able to spray her as she was on me. This attack has definitely changed the way I hunt and move through Grizzly country. I'll be on a week long hunt in Wyoming this September so the thought of camping in Grizzly country has definitely been weighing on my mind. You definitely brought up some good ideas on food storage that I'll take to heart. It was good to hear you say you'll be reaching for your Bear spray first as a lot of damage can happen after a Grizz has been loaded up with some lead. Looking forward to hearing your followup on this one.
One down side to glock/handguns Is when the bear is on you if the barrel or slide is pressed against them the slide pushes back out of batter while a revolver can be held against the bear and still shoot
True. There's pros and cons with each when comparing autos to revolvers. Actually you might have listed the only con to the auto (Glock anyway) that i can think of. I live on a few hundred acre place north of Boulder Montana. My dad lives on the same place in a separate cabin. Supposedly there are grizzlies in the elk horn mountains just to the east of us a few miles so we always know it's possible that a grizz could come strolling across our place at any time. My dad was carrying a S&W 357 revolver but after i let him shoot my Glock 20 he ordered one right away. 16 rounds vs 7 rounds. Softer and flatter recoil because of the slide movement and low bore axis makes follow up shots faster. No double action heavy trigger to potentially throw off accuracy and the Glock is lighter. I really like having that many rounds because i want to be shooting at the bear, if i can, when it's further out coming at me rather than waiting until it's closer because I'm scared I'm going to run out of rounds. Really with any pistol you need to put one in the dome of a grizzly to stop it so i want as many chances of doing that as possible. After training with the S&W 357 revolver and the Glock 20 I'm taking the Glock hands down and, like i said, the possibility of actually running into a grizz is very real for me and i take it seriously without any emotion for one tool or another. Whichever one i think makes me more safe is the one i use all the time.
@@mnman8511 oh I’m pro handgun all the way I carry a shadow systems mr920 basically a texas made glock 19 clone with some modifications revolvers are great but I’m accurate with my handgun and have more ammo carry good ammunition and shoot them a lot and muscle memory will take over
A 1911 can also be held against the offinder.
I try to hang my stuff where i can see it so im not surprised by a visitor. I use a line between 2 trees with webbing & clips on the ends for the ties. Pulley for food line.
Bears will absolutely go out on a line. Lol (typed just before you mentioned)
I appreciate the wind and split stash tips.
Im terrible for coffee in the tent. Sugar can fall.
The one bear i had to kill in defense had once got my food after i passed out lazy one night. It skipped all the food and was gorging on the hot chocolate powder.
It went away but became a problem a couple weeks later.
Ungulate blood on my clothes while i sleep isnt good but its fish guts that make me really nervous.
As far as getting away from a kill site, im a firm believer that animals can time your speed and distance by track scent.
I get to carry bear spray and a unique knife. They made spears illegal.
...Canada
I tend to hunt small areas and i truly believe the animals know me. I have spent a couple decades in the woods. Seem to have little trouble.
On using spray, i tell people to spray and side step quickly. I have deployed spray in tests quite a few times and i really haven't seen the wind issues.
I have hit pockets in rock/ground and had the spray come straight back at me like when you try to wash a spoon at the wrong angle.
Just to say a griz took out a family in Canada up near jasper back in the 70's or 80's. 2 males attempting to fight it didn't even slow it down.
My dogs are a life saver but 1 passed away a few months ago and i wont leave 1 alone to hunt. They are just for detection, I specifically train them not to get aggressive although they do get to hunt.
I knew an old mushroom picker on Vancouver island that would take his dogs sheddings and spread them from hip to shoulder height on camp perimeter. He firmly believed that the high placement made the bears think it was an elk sized dog and scared them. I feel its like a lock. Only keeps honest people out...
Not sure i have an opinion on dog breeds. My current dog is the 3rd generation ive had the fortune to have as family.
Ideally the dog gives you a warning growl and then waits for a command. Try to avoid risking the dog as an offensive tool.
If you're considering climate for the dog, also consider the animals color. Dark colors will stay warmer, light cooler.
My bear issue was entirely my fault. On the night things went down, i had chased it off several times already that day and it tried to flank me against a wall. When i realized that, i backed out and went back to camp. Should have left.
Got a picture of it walking almost over my fire and past my cooler to corner me at tent right before i had to deal with it.
According to 'BearSmart' quite a few attacks happen when a dog gives chase and triggers a defensive position. The dog turns around to run back to owner and bear follows enraged.
Keep your toothpaste with your food and out of your tent as well. Perhaps you mentioned it and I missed it.
The thing about big bore revolver is you will probably only get 1 or 2 shots.but with a 10mm or a 460 Rowland in a auto you stand a bitter chance of get more than 1 on target.
I have scared several black bear sows with cubs with a crimson trace Lazer grips on my pistol thay don't like the light on ther face .
I don't know if grizzly would react the same.
Dogo Argentino dog would work fantastic! My boy is getting old, but he is great and can pack weight like a champ.
Look into the PCT method for bear bag hanging.
We are heading toward a prohibition on bear bag hanging in our local NF area because of poorly hung bags that our bears have become pretty good at retrieving.
We have had two grizzly people encounters resulting in death of the people in the last 3 weeks. I’m actually pretty freaked out
Wow, that's crazy. Where was that at?
@@aqua.scape69 - just outside Calgary Alberta
@@mattokeefe691 wow, well stay safe out there my friend.
@@aqua.scape69 thanks bud
I'm thinking Labrador myself. Chocolate lab goes with a chocolate bear
I'll share my two cents on what pistol to carry but everyone should carry what they feel makes them the safest of course. There's pros and cons with each when comparing autos to revolvers. Actually the only con i can think of with a Glock auto is that it could potentially come out of battery if the muzzle was pushed up against a bear right on top of you but just move your hand back and pull the trigger until it goes bang. I live on a few hundred acre place north of Boulder Montana with my wife and kids. My dad lives on the same place in a separate cabin. Supposedly there are grizzlies in the elk horn mountains just to the east of us a few miles so we always know it's possible that a grizz could come strolling across our place at any time. My dad was carrying a S&W 357 revolver but after i let him shoot my Glock 20 back to back with his revolver he ordered a Glock right away. 16 rounds vs 7 rounds. Softer and flatter recoil because of the slide movement and low bore axis makes follow up shots faster. No heavy double action trigger to potentially throw off accuracy and the Glock is lighter. I really like having that many rounds because i want to be shooting at the bear, if i can, when it's further out coming at me rather than waiting until it's closer because I'm scared I'm going to run out of rounds. I shoot Extreme Penetrator ammunition. Really with any pistol you need to put one in the dome of a grizzly to stop it so i want as many chances of doing that as possible. After training with the S&W 357 revolver and the Glock 20 I'm taking the Glock hands down and, like i said, the possibility of actually running into a grizz is very real for me and i take it seriously without any emotion for one tool or another. Whichever one i think makes me more safe is the one i use all the time.
First thing i do before i open up a game animal is light a big fire, like they did way back when !
My 10mm finished of a 9’10” brown bear on admiralty island last fall, also killed a 500 pound black bear at 15 yds
I'm thinking a Great Pyrenees would be a good choice. Able to be a day to day pet but will protect you and other animals to the death. There is a reason sheep herders use them.
Thanx
Great topic. I’ve had encounters with black bears in Canada, California, and Washington. The bears in CA and WA did the opposite of what most people think bears do during an encounter, that is to say, they didn’t scare off easily. The bears in WA (Olympic Nat Park high divide loop) couldn’t have cared less that we were there, and one even came toward us as we were yelling. The bears near our cottage in northern Ontario are very much afraid of people, probably because they see so few of them.
I’ve become more concerned about bears instead of less concerned as I’ve spent more time in the woods. I’m also ultra careful with food and scents. I put some thoughts about spray versus a handgun into a video:
ruclips.net/video/evEscbW2GEk/видео.html
I love the idea of having dogs along fir protection,i have 2 180lb kangals and thats what they were bred for killing wolves and running off bear but i would never put a pack on them if they ever had to defend against a wolf or bear it would be like you fighting mike tyson with your pack on,your already at a disadvantage and now the pack is almost crippling to the point of a death sentence, my dogs are fast but i think a griz or even a black would catch them and with a pack on it would be hopeless
I've thought about bringing my dog on hunts. Not sure if a "hiking companion" would be legal here while hunting bears.
Just because the way the law is written. I'm going to ask the warden about this not like I have a hound dog
Good stuff Brian! I just bought the Keni Chest Holder for my 10MM. I live in N/W Montana, where we have a ton of grizz. My main interest was to always have my 10 on me regardless of the status of my backpack. Thanks for your content.
I didn't hear a chiweenie mentioned
RUclips is blocking your stuff brother! Hopefully they won't block your bear hunts with Ryan!!! And we are still waiting for your elk hunt videos!!! Good luck!!
Bear comes into a convience store, I'm leaving out the back door. Not trying to intimidate it lol
Karelian bear dog....
GERMAN WIREDHAIR POINTER
Because of this podcast I have now discovered a Aussiedor
Howdy bros
Just had a fatal mauling in Ovando Mt
“I want to be able to kick a dog in the head when it pisses me off. and I want it to just roll over and say sorry Dad, not go around for the next week questioning whether I love it or not. I need a tougher dog.”
Was this a joke Brian? It went over my head if it was. If it wasn’t a joke, that’s fucked up man.
Weiner dog..........walking bait.
It’s a cartridge, the bullet is only the projectile. Caliber is only bore diameter, chambering or cartridge is the term you should use. Don’t make it easy to write you off by not knowing the basic terminology. Good info otherwise.
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