How San Francisco's Nerdiest Neighborhood Could Save It
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- San Francisco has positioned itself as the city for AI research and investment. Here's what's happening on the ground as the idea of San Francisco as "Cerebral Valley" grows from hackathons and cafe sessions in a few city blocks to being a metaphor for the resurgence the city's boosters are hoping for.
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Current resident here and let me be clear that NO ONE CALLS IT "CEREBRAL VALLEY". San Francisco is "broken" because the city willingly traded it's creative class for high-earning tech and finance workers. Our entire local economy is taylored around the needs of techies. Small businesses are closing because they served tech workers. Once lay-offs started and companies started moving, a lot of small businesses folded because they didnt have people willing to spend $30-40 on lunch around any longer. I hope tech completely loses it footing here in the city so we can be just that, another city.
i acknowledge your opinion.
With no techs, SF would be more hopeless. Look at those Midwest cities. They are all ghost towns, and no one even mentions how bad they are nowadays. Actually most Midwest and even East Coast cities are declining, except NYC and DC. Tech is the future and promising industry for sure. Pandemic comes and goes. The solution is not to getting rid of your advantage.
I live near Hayes Valley and go there every day. NO ONE calls it “Cerebral Valley”. Stop trying to make that a thing.
Everyone in the know calls it Fetch Valley.
🤣
I lived and worked in or around there for years and years. It's Hayes Valley, not "Cerebral Valley," but they can call it what they want. That corner they keep showing of Hayes & Octavia Streets used to be an undesirable place, because the Central Freeway ran right over it, casting a huge shadow on that corner, and that area. Hookers used to hang out there waiting for customers back then.
used to be lol? hasnt that been gone since around the 89 earthquake. i think one entrance/exit went all the way to golden gate and gough @@Qrayon
@@bigpoppa4094 What's so funny?
I don't remember when they tore it down, but if I remember right, it did take you to Golden Gate and Gough.
No one calls hayes valley as a nerdy neighborhood. Open AI isnt even in hayes its in mission
No one calls it “Cerebral Valley” and that’s the most cheesy name I’ve ever heard
I'm going to assume that the only people calling it "Cerebral Valley" are people in the tech community... and maybe just tech people living/working within Hayes Valley.
The tenderloin??? Like stfu 😂
@@omygarshNo... I have lived in Hayes Valley for 15 yeara, have a lot of friends in tech(including the AI space), and myself work at a tech-adjacent company and NOBODY calls it Cerebral Valley. 🙄
Wow! Has this place changed! I lived here in 1969 when I was a young man and there were prostitutes on every corner.
We call them tech workers these days, pops
Did you try?
That was the least of it. The teenage boys were the worst of it. Nobody is safe from them.
@@bestt2252concur!
San Francisco really has gone downhill 😂
7:36 do these guys wear the same thing every day? Even the glasses are the same 😂
Thank God! Some good news out in the "media" world. What a refreshing change of topic. A news story about real people and the love of a city the rest of the country keeps trying to kick off the cliff. Thank you.
No one here in SF calls it cerebral valley LOL
Hayes Valley is for online D2C stores put their retail anchor so it doesn't feel like you're buying from a drop shipper.
The Californians I know say "like" every 5-8 words
You know the inarticulate valley ones.
No one calls it that. NO ONE.
Cerebral haaaaaaa
I still love the finicial district. That’s where all the business and work should take place… not in the low key neighborhoods. It’s cute how enthusiastic these techies are.
Ya techies are cute in their little Patagonia vests and their awkward mannerisms but I definitely respect the freaks and the geeks as they are always motivated to give it their all☺️
When I lived their they called it "Death Valley." no joke. In the 1980s, it was incredibly dangerous.
Our area, The San Francisco Bay Area, is actually just a bunch of diverse neighborhoods. Each neighborhood is quite different from the others.
Open AI is in the Mission and moving to Mission Bay. Cerebal Valley? Never heard of it.
I live close by to San Francisco and literally NOBODY calls it "Cerebral Valley" lmao
Thanks for stopping by the SF office @Bloomberg!
😂😂😂 I walk by the edge of neighborhood close to city hall on my lunch breaks. No one calls it cerebral valley
You walk by listening to everybody's conversations?
As said in the video, Hayes Valley is too small to be a resurgence for SF. No one neighborhood is going to revitalize the city.
its going to be more decentralized across the world, and not concentrated in one city. this would also reduce geographical and ethnic biases which creep in due to highly concentrated hubs.
I have lived in Hayes Valley for 15 years and NOBODY calls it Cerebral Valley. So corny...
A rare tourist here. Walked the length of Hayes Valley plus more, loves the architecture and the ambient. Keep it that way!
The Painted Ladies are in Hayes Valley? Well, I guess Alcatraz and the Golden Gate Bridge are also located in Hayes Valley😅
SF resident and techie here! On one hand, I love the visibility that this video brings to SF. Yes, this city is way more than the unhoused population and not in some doom spiral or whatever.
On the other, this isn’t any groundbreaking news. Tech has always and will always be capitalized in SF. Glad you made it to SF!
@KevinAcea ok coroner
Yes! SF is gonna come back stronger🔥 I really hope so.
The painted ladies aren’t in Hayes valley.
elitist tech bros
gentrified neighborhood. only a small group of people in sf call it cerebrel valley. its still hayes valley. and all those businesses are just trying to soak the techies of their capital. nerds, like garry taint arent going to save anything. they make it worst.
7:46 space gray macbook noice me have one too (:
I love Hayes Valley. But it's very tiny, mostly residential, and there's nowhere to really go after 8pm that doesn't involve eating or drinking
Definitely way better than downtown though, which is pretty depressing.
You just described most of SF though. Most places shut down completely by 10
You can watch ballet, opera or jazz lol
@@ArekSuroboyo1 Fair
There’s shows at bill graham at least once 2-3 times a month, many shows at the symphony and opera.
Hayes Valley used to be so cool! Now it's Bland Valley!
This reminds me why SF is so special. The details are a little wrong, but being in the heart of where invention is happening is so special. PS Was there even a single woman in this video? Eesh.
I want to live in SF
Would not recommend tbh, there's so much crime and homelessness there. Going further to San Jose area (aka Silicon Valley) is alot more ideal
@@DoJoStan wrong
Stay out of California
Yes you do!
@@sfrentals4769concur, not all of SF is bad, usually people say SF to refer to its downtown but it goes without saying that there is more to a city than its downtown
“Cerebral valley?” Wtf? Did AI create this puke worthy moniker?
I LIVE IN HAYES VALLEY AND I AM NOT A FULL-ON NERD! But I guess I'm nerd adjacent. SF's main draw is that it's so easy to get from Point A to Point B, so it's easy to build and maintain communities here. There are a lot of super smart and driven people here, which has its plusses and minuses. Minuses example - ambient conversations are not as interesting as they once were (please let's save conversations about monetizing for your home. Monetization is the new porn! Keep it at home!) But this place is constantly changing. It's a living breathing organism. Clashes of old and new. Wealthy and striving with the poor. (The poverty is brutal and the wealthy need to step TF up.) But it's exciting to be here.
Cool companies but a lot of us that have done it DO NOT wanna go back to living in cramped cities especially not SF which is a commuting nightmare.
Also, cerebral valley? Lol
There isn't much to support the claims that "we are going to fill up every one of these skyscrapers." I've noticed several puff pieces on SF. Must be an organized campaign by the city. There is 32M square feet of empty office space or 34% in SF. Of the 64M occupied square feet only 2M is occupied by AI firms.
Boom and bust in SF... it's been happening repeatedly since 1849. We even name our football team after it.
@@DemPilafian Exactly. As the saying goes, wealth is made during downturns.
@@DemPilafian You don't have a football team...or are you starting a new one?
@@Qrayon just because this football team of San Francisco keeps failing in recent history does not mean that it is defunct (until NFL decides that the 49ers is not a football team, or the 49ers disbands);
but i acknowledge the implied messaging, helps out with learning English at a collegiate level.
@@micosstar Maybe you haven't heard, but years ago the 49ers moved from San Francisco to Santa Clara, not exactly walking distance from SF. Then they moved to Las Vegas. So to think the 49ers are a San Francisco team is to be delusional. They are now a Las Vegas team. It has nothing to do with how well they're doing. They are gone now, and they are now the Las Vegas 49ers. Let's get back to reality.
Now its on TV thats means more people more Expensive 😅
Isn't OpenAI located near the Mission District? Shouldn't startups be moving there instead of Hayes Valley ?
The ChatGPT OpenAI Academy is downtown next to Hayes Valley. OpenAI, Inc. is in the Mission District just south of Hayes valley.
they all have lil neighborhood business districts. this is just them promoting themselves. try to change the name. basic marketing.
I promise you no one calls it "Cerebral Valley" except for the weird techbro outsiders
Please don’t call Hayes Valley any other name…
Yeah, this clustering thing has been terrible for the US in the past decades. Tech in the Bay Area. Entertainment in LA. Energy companies in the south. Manufacturing in the midwest. Medical industry in the northeast. Why don't all these businesses listen to this genius professor? 🤣
Nick Gavin is hot
so is the reporter trying to create a story by tangetially connecting dots without looking at the big picture?
Have they addressed crime? No? Then San Francisco is irredeemable
Do some Googling and and check out various crime rates in San Francisco vs say Houston Texas. No one talks about the crime rates in red state cities like Miami, St. Louis, Houston or New Orleans. Murder rates are higher, violent crime rates are higher in all those cities and no outrage. SF is the whipping boy of right wing media and social media.
What are the odds of a car burglary compared to downtown if parked on the street?
downtown is a big area and cars get bipped in certain hot spots. not a lot of parking on the st in downtown. dont park in a outdoor parking lot next to embarcadero or pier 39. alamo square in hayes valley is a big time hot spot.
It happens all over the city, never ever leave anything visible and you should be fine. Be careful of people seeing you out things in the trunk too.
don't believe the hype!
i'm sold
Apart from all the SF dooms day posts, SF has the best talent density in the whole world. Heck I moved cross continent to be here to start something of my own haha
I live right in the heart of Hayes Valley (on Hayes & Octavia) and I've never heard Cerebral Valley.
The same nonsense happened in the Western Addition. The real estate brokers started calling the area around Divisadero Street "NOPA."
@@Qrayon And Tenderloin as Lower Nob Hill lol
@@ArekSuroboyo1 The Tenderloin was always called "Lower Nob Hill", but only as joke.
Lower nob hill is the southern part of nob hill that is adjacent to TL and looks quite similar to TL
@@alexchow9629 It is the southern part of Nob Hill, as you say, but it does have a different look and feel. We're talking about up the hill from Post St, with Post St. as the border. That's where "lower Nob Hill" starts.
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No wonder Grimes chooses to live in SF 😅
You didn't need to add the useless Mark Muro part. He's exactly the type of person who wokeified Google's Gemini.
uuhhh
that is not nerdy... it's a brand new area only 5 years old
the entire SF is technically NERDIER than all major US cities
Hahelt..hwutn. .hgenarlght..hjunmlj😅🎉
Mr Tan had better learn the fundamentals of this stuff or he'll blow a lot of money because he apparently thinks (he actually says in here) that software is now "able to reason" which is EXACTLY WRONG, and that's the biggest problem with Gen. AI...it CAN'T reason and nobody knows how to make it do that and integrate with today's models which only do the equiv. of intuition vs reason.
SF was missing hype until now. Sorely needed.
Was this always SF's nerdiest neighborhood? Wasn't SOMA nerdier > 8 years ago?
SOMA now is basically just lower Tenderloin
@@thepsychopimpdepends. The part adjacent to fidi is nice. But lower and it’s kinda empty in a lot of places with warehouses and homeless.
Hayes is boring!!! Pass. Obvs no one cute either.
Need more dense housing in rich resourced areas. ❤🔥#yimby
Crypto hasn’t had its chat gpt moment?
An estimated 300 million people owned some kind of crypto by the end of 2021
Mostly as speculative investments. They aren't deriving any value from it.
@@yashagarwal8249 what do you understand by "value" in the first place?
Crypto has no use value beyond speculation
@@yashagarwal8249 Just speculation?
You forgot about ransomware! Without crypto there is literally zero ransomware. Ransomware is 100% dependent on crypto.
Too bad AI can’t figure out what to do with all the bums on the street
Hey ChatGPT, what can we do about all the pompous sociopaths who think that they're better than "the bums on the street"?
Just wait for Supreme Court case this summer…soon
Another late hype report video
Gentrification.
Of what?! It's freaking empty!
@@Xgenerati saying you are an idiot without having to say you are an idiot.
Stop lying.
Don't worry homeless and drugs will soon come.. san fran is screwedddddd
Wrong
It will take the jobs from SF people. AI will take their own jobs