@@banglawarlock3947 at a higher townhall you can upgrade a hero but still have 4 remaining heroes,: thus, optimizing your time while maintaining a full army.
@MizzyLP That's so not true lol, hero potions used to give +5 lvl to heroes for 1 hour, hope they change it back because even though this video is ignoring the main point of the whole game, It is annoying to get beaten in cw by noobs who only upgrade electro dragon, balloons and with a hero potion they can 3 star any base....
@@Gelert_ Um hello???? The game is not meant to be a piece of shit to play it’s meant to be enjoyable. And make your base anti edrag or just 3 star your mirror in war
@andidyouknow8208 I understand that, but how is the game more enjoyable if you handicap yourself by not upgrading the most important aspects for attacks? You may have them at max level in wars but for normal attacks, which makes up majority of attacks, you are literally stuck with useless heroes. I don't think thats fun tbh.
I play efficiently in general, but I will not be rushing. It's just a play style thing, I enjoy maxing out each town hall, even if it's less efficient overall macro plan. Each to their own though
True, but it is impossible to play efficiently when your walls are max and you can't spend your loot. I always had to push the townhall just to be able to upgrade walls.
@@sankuogyeah i’m even waiting to up my th13 because the whole time heroes were upgrading and I did very little war attacks. Man I want to play for enjoy the game ya know 😂
@@clashwithritesh9804 this guide is for people who war mainly and don’t have too much time to play the game in general, so he’s helping those people get higher hero levels for a very easy to earn resource the raid medals
@@banglawarlock3947You're joking right? If I'm attacking an opponent with a level 35 Queen, their Queen is going down quick with minimal damage to my troops or heroes. If my opponent has a level 100 Queen, my troops or heroes are in much more danger.
@kevinpapac7619 yes but nobody looks at a base and goes "shit the hero levels are so high i need to make sure to avoid it". If you are reckless you of course your troops are melted. But that can be any defense too. People worry about taking out base core not heroes.
just spam one troop, that is boring, do you recommend everyone plays the game this way or are you just white knighting for a RUclipsr who probably has no idea who you are?
@@kagan4926 If you look at the comments, there are people who also just play the game for enjoyment. I am sure some people are looking to rush as well but not everyone
Guys if you REALLY want to know how to play the game... Well, just play, you don't need a random guy on the internet suggesting you to rush your base just to get the end of the game quicker. Play like YOU want to.
Preach it man! I couldn’t agree more! This guys a joke telling people to rush their bases. You miss ALL the best experiences coc has to offer if you simply rush and skip past all the lower town hall levels. You’ll also suck on offense when you hit th16 because you have to rely on potions and magic gimmicks and have no real solid attack strategies,
@@OGRCFanaticI have 3 accounts and I was able to jump from th14 at the beginning of last year and jump to th16 and am now a almost maxed out th17 his method works
bro its a guide on how to progress fast like man.. if they didn't care about upgrading fast they wouldn't be on youtube like you are? Is your only purpose commenting like a loser so others don't follow a GUIDE ON RUclips/?? JUST GET OFF THE APp
1. lets our heroes at level 1. 2. keep upgrading Th. 3. calling ourselves smart rush. 4. raid medals just for hero potion. 5. ours game is done and start a new acc and keep doing the same.
😂 I prefer Tee s approach By only upgrading TH when my army and hero little bit ready Maybe I will fall behind a bit but will be winner when attacking his base with lvl 10 hero
@@SUTH_33 this is for people who don’t want to upgrade their heroes, you don’t have to keep the heroes to level 1 forever and you can choose how to play the game, byt for the people new to the game this is good advice to know
What the hell is the point of pointlessly rushing to get to the newest townhall and skip the entire experience of every other townhall? Centering your entire playstyle and experience playing clash of clans on timing the most efficient magic item usage has to be the worst way to play this game. Anyone who would follow this advice has a screw loose
@@albertanmotorcyclist6419 I totally disagree. In fact I think the opposite. I've been on both sides and to me I get extreme satisfaction on calculations and strategising all my resources to maximize progress, attacks basically everything in the game. It's like math
Some take fun of playing like this, if you don't and think it's bad so why watching videos like this. Go and play the game and watch others content creator😊 😊😊
Aaaaand this is why wars end up as ties all the time for people not maxing heroes. What about hero stats when defending? Do hero spells also help for that? Not at all.
Same for rushing defenses upgrading only core defenses it's not a good strategy causing you to get 3 stared and lose trophies and cause a great loss to your clan aswell
@@gamersreactions9267 since you have low level hero for normal attack it's mostly very hard to get 3 star's but even if you do get 3 star's on every attack it's still a bad trade and will make trophies grinding hard
I think you might be misreading the point. For free to play players, the maxing of levels IS the point of the game. It’s like a little , daily OCD challenge to accomplish something.
@AKayani559 it does yee, hero potion gives you that anyways. Im just saying that if you think maxing fills your heart, go for it but it will never catch to new content as easily. The main loint of rushing is instead of spending time on useless defenses, you are able to instead use that builder time for heroes (and other offense building) letting you adapt to meta whenever you need
@AKayani559 you cant say that. thats peoples preference. i like getting to touch new contents faster and earlier. i could say the same thing to you. why bother upgrading defenses when people with 1 braincells at least can sweep your base? i could use that time to get newer offensive troops to donate and provide value to clan / check out other armies and spend more of the time instead for heroes eventually. for me, if i am going to sweeped anyways i might as well be able to retaliate.
Rushers wanted to skip the cannons and archer towers at first... now the must be leveled for multi towers. If you really think that SC won't circle back around to heroes in that same situation you are clueless. Plus what about your heroes for defense? I have had my base save by king or queen many times and they have been maxed. If they were level 1 my base would be steamrolled
Tells us to rush to have better magic item value but we wont be using those magic items like the book of heros for ages due to low levels. We would be waisting a hero book every month
I don't understand why "magic item effective use" is an argument. You can only hold one magic item at a time and if you dont buy offers or are F2P, you should use those items regardless if you can easy get another one. Saved time is still saved time, even if it isn't "the best value".
I think you won't be good at attacking with this method. To be good in the game you need to practice attacking (of course with hero) in multilayer match and low level heroes are useless in higher th. How can you be good at the game when you can only use your proper attack during clan war? There's no point in having good progress when you suck in attacking. The game is much more focus on attacking not on defense....
@@renznatividad9782 most people never practice anyway, they just repeat for years straight instead of learning how to get good. You can get good in 1-2 months if you put the effort in
bro he literally showed why hero potion is op. you will have max heroes all time for war. and you dont need months of attacking to be good. you can challenge with clanmates or your own base to learn an attack. if you need months of practise to learn to attack its either your army is trash or you are just really bad (even if you are bad there are many spam armies that triples without looking so its really your fault).
This is remotely false. I have 2 alt accounts with rushed heroes and I was able to 3 star a new th15 with a rushed th14 army equipment matters more than hero levels.
@@Flooma_1 Not necessarily. Most equipment boosts the stats of heroes in some way, so a hero that's close to max for a particular hall will do more damage than one that's low leveled; plus said hero will survive longer because they have more HP.
@ I assume you haven’t seen people with level one equipment? You can have the stats of a maxed out th17 hero but you don’t have high level equipment. You’re level 100 king is no better than a level 1 BK
I’m sorry but unless your only doing one war a week then 3 a week won’t be enough and then what you permanently have lvl 1 hero’s tell you get to th17 and you push 99 lvls on your king and queen? That sounds terrible Edit: also it might help you get more value for your building upgrades, but all of your hero books will be used on like 9 hour upgrades until you upgrade them so it’s double dumb to do.
Upgrade at least a minimum, so you wouldn't be needing hero potions in normal attacks. My personal minimum: King and Queen lvl 50 Warden lvl 35 Champion lvl 25 I have this for all of my alt accounts, except my main which is maxed.
@@dmgrimes69 i have a th15(rushed) queen is something like 58, king 51, rc 21, warden 30 Can you help me how much should I upgrade me my heroes for war attacks
you should stop upgrading when your heroes' upgrade time become 5-7 days. That's where your hero is at low to average power and hero book will have value and come in clutch
Yeah that about my goal for my almost maxed th13 both king and queen at 40 rn and my warden and rc at 15 long way to go but by the end of the month I should be there I think
All your attacks outside of clan wars will be ass if you don’t level your heroes. And tbh so will your clan wars attacks because you won’t have enough practice using high level heroes.
Buying hero potions instead of other much more valuable items isnt very valuable on the other hand. Specially in the clan that you are not allowed to use both hits. 2 hero potions per war can be very expensive in the long run.
1 hero potion for 2 attacks in war. that's 15 wars max per months. u get 12 hero potions from raid medals. 1 from monthly event. you will problems in 2 wars in a month. you can opt out of those 2 wars to help your clan. then repeat next month. I am f2p and th16 . my heros aren't bad 45 level. but my progress has been speedy.
@sharathvasudev Again majority of clans doesnt allow it to use both attacks within 1 hour. Usually you need to attack it in first 12 hours and save the 2nd attack for clean up. That is 2 potions per war or 6-8 potions per week. But you are not getting it more than 3 per week. The whole idea about hero potions is to use it when you are mismatched and you need some extra power, not to fix the broken account.
@@tadejbozicko9869 just attack at the 11 and 12 hour mark. For CWL you can attack on end of day 1 and start of day 2, so you use 3 potions for 6 attacks
Facts, imagine you can 3 star th17 or 16 on regular wars. Getting ore loots than someone staying on th13 vs th12. Rushing heroes now a days is really efficient. Remeber youre not just buying potion yo attack. You are 3starring to loot. Now multiply th17 loot with 1k+ ores vs someone 500-700 ores by 15 wars. Not included that you attack have 2 attacks.
Yeah I’m never rushing, never was my play style 😢 I feel so sad when I see a high lv town hall only for them to be low level hero’s and crap walls. Back in the day it was harder to upgrade and supercell lowers the cost and there’s literally hammer jam and the amount of people never taking advantage of that is crazy
rushers benefit hammer jam because they can upgrade what actually matters. even if they have crap walls what's high level wall gonna do besides being a beautiful decoration?
youre saying you can defend 100% of the time iwth good heroes? are you new? defenses are unbalanced. you can make any army and triple with it because of equipments. the experience of higher th is much better. you have more option to learn any army you like in higher th. if you are new i agree maxxing is okay but you wil burn out easily after a certain point if you keep that way
Do not rush your hero’s. Any high level or active clan including mine look at your hero’s first and probably only at your hero’s lvls before deciding to kick you or not
my king is only 45. I am f2p and th16. my clan never kicked me. I have come in clutch in close wars as i usually attack last. hero potions all the way. I have been following this video's idea from a year. my equipment are mostly maxed from my th.
Yes you could stay in wars the entire month, but the second CWL comes around your screwed. You can’t spend 7 hero potions in 7 days every month as a f2p player
We stopped taking you seriously since your OP lavaloon equipment video. On top of that rushing heroes isn’t an option anymore reason being we all have extra hero slot to keep it upgrading. Rushing your townhall simply means that you skip all the things you’re supposed to learn at certain townhall. Which in turn causes more trouble in higher townhall for being shabby at the offensive strategy. Keep in mind defense is fucked up already as you are RUSHED
Simple is that all it takes for supercell is to nerf rewards or the hero potion just imagine how fucked those people with 10 20 leval of heroes be at higher th
"We stopped taking seriously" like all of us? For one mistake weeks ago? So that one mistake converted you to a hater? 😂 I agree with your point about rushing heroes tho. That sounds very reasonable ✌️
higher th is much easier to learn a strategy. defenses are worthless anyways. max th7? dragons triple anyways and you maxed th 9? dragons sweep you. maxed th 11? oh look someone spamming dragons cleared your base. there are other attacks which require not much skill make lower th a joke. i remember learning qc lalo in th9 when i was maxxing. shit was hard to do because literraly not enough army camp size to bring stuff. but rushed th 15? i have so much leftovers to adapt tot the base. defenses have no real value. average player will triple you anyways after looking at a youtube video for 3 minutes
@@banglawarlock3947 but the intensity changes. I can 2 star 75% rushed th 17 with only heroes. Putting few more troops and comes triple easily. Rushed players will find it tough to maintain leagues which also brings scarcity of ores which means the equipment will also have less effectiveness due to being under levelled
@@banglawarlock3947 I have a virtually maxed 15, a maxed 13 and a rushed 14. The 13 gets 3 starred 54% of the time, the rushed 14 is 3 starred 75% of the time and the maxed 15 20% of the time. The impact on defense is obvious when we put our rushers in compared to our maxers. I'm not denying the offensive impact of rushing, it's definitely massive but our th13s 3 star rushed 15s and 16s all the time. It's a tradeoff, no free lunch ✌️
Upgrading heroes is the most important thing in the clash of clans in my opinion. Because there will be a point when you Don't want to rely on hero porsion.
@@Flooma_1bruh this channel started in 2021 he probably didn't even put guides to rush to th17 back then even if he did game was different back then and it takes 3-4 years f2p to get to th 17 if you play everyday no way you already maxed th17😂
@@epicyoda. I followed his strategic rushing guide to get to th16 in July of last year and I then almost maxed out the defenses at th16 before th17 came out. Please shut up
"dont waste your builders on heroes when you could be upgrading other things". Heroes do count as upgrades to complete when your maxxing out you cant just leave the most valuable asset to your army and defense just because you want to get to the next town hall faster take the game a little slower because that is the point of the game.
@MizzyLPbut you can't rely on them, since you need at least 1 potion per war, so for 1 war (since you need 7 potions per 2 weeks, while you can only get 6 free) you'd be out of potions. And don't get me started on CWL
@@banglawarlock3947 I literally have nearly max heroes at th13 (for that th obviously) before even building scattershots, so I am not doing that either lol
@MizzyLP i was rush base, fix it in 2 /3 years. My defends suck but my hero always max now. Its o satisfiying. No i can catch up the news content and ne hero lvl with ease
A thing i do myself is using league medals for builder potions for all 5 heroes at the same time, instead of hammers. If you have 6 builders you skip nearly as much time (10 days for 4x builder potion) as like using normal Books and get all your heroes over night back if you use a lot of medals.
please don't rush TH until your heroes are max of previous TH(eg. you want to upgrade to TH 14 you should have max of TH12), this game become horrendous to play without hero potion (i have very rushed base hero upgrade time almost accumulated to 6 months , compared to this i have very fun playing my non rushed bases)
The people who follow this guide will be stuck with the new hero at level 1, while the maxers will have it at level 70 just like with the minion prince
Tf you expect me to do with my full dark elixir storage? And when I'm Th16 and have all my heroes at level 1, I'm supposed to grind all the dark elixir to max them after I wasted millions of dark elixir by not spending it? Also imagine having your heroes max for only 3 hrs per week or spending your raid medals on hero potions when you could be spending them on starry ore. This advice is stupid af.
i dont think it worth to sac your hero level to get just a little bit more value on magic items. If someone follow this they will suddenly have over than 400 hero levels to upgtade which is actually a nightmare
Soon they will double the raid medal cost and put more time limit to purchase...if most people started to skip hero upgrades. Then who didn't upgrade them will come in same comment section to abuse 😂.
They don't want people to rush i remember back in the day people used to rush to th 11 without building any new buildings so now they force players to build everything before upgrading
So, I think there's factors you're not accounting for. 1) Hero books are handed out more frequently than builder books. When you make the comparison of time saved between the hero and builder books, you should be comparing the builder book to 2 hero books, given you get 2 of them in the gold path. 2) You suggest that rushing players spend raid medals on hero potions. However, there are already two large needs that rushing players need to spend raid medals on: clock tower potions and ores. Any player that is rushing is probably also rushing their builder base for the 6th builder. That's 3 clock tower potions every week. And if anyone wants to actually use their equipment on their heroes, they need to spending the rest of their raid medals on ores. That leaves no raid medals left for anything else (you can't even afford to buy all of the ores at that point). Given that players also get more hero books, what strategically rushed players should be doing is putting some builders on hero upgrades while also upgrading offensive capabilities and other TH prerequisites. And when a player reaches a power spike (like, say, TH13), then spend a little bit extra time working on heroes until you get close to capping out an upgrade trigger (nearly maxed walls, all offensive requirements maxed, heroes almost maxed for the TH level, etc).
corretion... every player should rush the builder base for the 6th builder. that is the one rushing I will always agree with. just not everyone should get the clock potions, farming takes too long there for this to be worth it.
Lol this guy forgot the rush your base is and not upgrading you hero the hero in your base become weak for defense in Wars(sure it not much but its surely can make difference for 2 stars or 3 stars defense) and farming.defense too. This guy just want your base to minimax, what a load of crap is this.
You forget that you can be in a FWA clan and so you can upgrade heroes during wars. Especially if you buy gold pass you should have at least 1 hero you can get decent book value. And if you play some real (mostly for th16/17) CWL, you can (but don't have to) use hero potions you have stockpiled from gold passes, etc.
I respect your point and everyone can play how ever they want but personally i dont enjoy atacking with low level heroes , not only in war now i have max heroes and dont use hero potions and enjoy the game this way way more😊
No bro you have to must upgrade your heroes to max If your heroes level are too low then starts upgrading from now that one day will come when your heroes are maxed out❤
This may be good for people’s alt accounts but someone new playing the game should upgrade hero’s and casual players as well I mean the amount of extra dark elixir I have at lower town halls is crazy, especially with everything in the lab getting its cost cut in half.
Dude get out of here with your noob guides you are just making more people to rush their bases and get 3 stared by everyone bec heroes play a big big rule in defense and what is the point of playing the game when you skip town halls and not experience them if you answer this correctly i will delete the game and giveaway my account th16 nearly maxed
The fact that the game has no specific way to be played gives you the opportunity to do whatever you want, so do exactly that and don't be angry at others for enjoying the game in a different way. It's also such a huge game that you can find people that thinks and plays exactly like you, so join whoever fits your playstyle, that being mentioned, why bother in telling others what is right and what is wrong? Pointless discussion imo
I enjoy your content, I even support your creator code, till you start talking about rushing again...!! Really puts me down..!! Coz you don't speak about the negative side of rushing... You make rushing seems to be a cake walk and with no drawbacks, but it's not... Besides your base will constantly get 3* by lower townhalls, you will not be accepted in 90% of the active clans, nor they will take you in wars...
Literally I got 3 star in town hall 17, I can't believe this 😅, Just 2 days before I made town 16 and I get boost. So all troops and hero is become max level
Semi upgrading the heroes is better for me. Upgrade 10-15 levels shy of max for a town hall, so i can get my lab potions from raid medals. And hero potion with the extra. I know it's not efficient but it makes my game experience better. And yeah clan won't kick me for not upgrading heroes as well (many clans die in a few months so I need to get into different clans) Edit: This has also helped me not farm for dark elixir exclusively and help me use up my dark elixir as I get them so that it never over flows (if you attack multiple times daily farming, you still overflow though. I don't have much time to play the game)
Your main drawback is really lab time from th9 until th14. I find it better not to rush and focus almost exclusively on spending any perks on training potions for resources grabs, as well as research potions to accelerate that process. The th12 hero upgrade seems grueling but you also have several new items to upgradr in the lab as well as multiple upgrade levels needed for several items as well.
Didn't watch the video because simply telling people to not upgrade heroes is extremely shortsighted by default. You're only looking at this one dimensionally; CoC is about attacking AND defending, not just attacking. Bases with low level heroes get steamrolled more frequently than bases with heroes decently leveled or close to max; a hero taking out one of yours in a crucial moment has always been a main point to watch for when attacking. Relying on hero potions won't help you in the long run and is more wasteful than simply getting dark elixir to upgrade stuff. Plus, weak heroes often means a base itself is particularly weak most of the time. Not to mention most clans that see people with weak heroes will just kick them out because they'll more often that not be a liability in war. I've seen so many people rushing to TH14 over the past 2 weeks alone with their king and queen below 40 that I've had to check every couple hours to make sure we didn't have a guy in the clan that would just be fodder in wars.
There are 2 problems here. One is that new players cannot access newer content unless they rush, due to how the levelling system works and time constraints. The other problem is that SC just allow these new players to rush instead of reducing the time even more. I agree they reduce the time every update, but upgrading heroes past level 60 is a pain and takes too much time, therefore these players rush, and SC instead of reducing hero times or removing the need for builders on heroes or making useable heroes while upgrading, make the hero potion OP. This just encourages people to rush even more and doesnt fix the problem. If anything, SC should make heroes useable while upgrading and make every level take 1-2 days be it level 1-2 or level 99-100. Or condense hero levels into upgrades of 10 levels each and make it take a week to upgrade. This just makes it easier to upgrade the heroes and doesnt make it a chore to upgrade them.
I had a level17 grand warden at th 16 then I decided to upgrade it just get your warden to level 55 or 60 to get best value when warden is at upgrade at higher town hall it feels like hell without warden so get warden some levels before doing strategic rushing rest hero doesn't affect that much while farming and my opinion is to only use hero potion while cwl and not clan war I mainly use my raid medals for wall ring and research potion because laboratory is the real bottle neck
hero potions is equivalent to buying things with credit, sure it will work in the short while so long as you keep using it, but out right owning something fully will bring you more prosperity in the long run. I rather have heros that are truly high leveled than having to constantly be boosting them artificially
I think the overall message is pretty bad advice. Rushing to Th17 before upgrading your heroes is going to be monumentally stupid and inefficient. For a lot of the early and mid game THs (upto TH11), you can have your heroes available for war attacks but have them down otherwise since upgrades on average are under 2 days. So if you want to strategically rush, have your heroes down constantly while using the rest of your builders to upgrade your army buildings and key defenses and then move on. You'll find that you're getting your heroes to near the max of the previous TH before moving up (i.e. you're gonna have level 35-40 king and queen, and a level 20 warden when you get done with TH11). This allows you to instead spend your raid medals on Ore and Lab potions to get your war and farming armies ready and your hero equipment levelled. Past that point, at TH12 and after, you can shift to the strategy defined below: If you don't want to strategically rush, but want to maximize your ore economy (through wars) without relying on the janky hero potions for your war attacks and having to suffer low level heroes for your multiplayer, or your heroes are all getting up there where their upgrade times are longer than 4-5 days, the way to go about it is rather simple. Due to the addition of the Minion Prince, you can always keep 1 hero down and war with the max number of heroes you can use. This means keeping 1 builder constantly upgrading the heroes. To maximize the power of this builder, you want to invest heavily in the builder apprentice. A maxed out builder apprentice can cut off 11 hours off of every 24 hours of an upgrade, which is roughly 40-45% more working speed on that upgrade. Thus, using this, you can cut down the time required for each hero upgrade from the 4-5 day, and eventually 8 day mark to 2.5-5 days. Keeping your assisted builder busy upgrading the heroes this way also coincidently works out such that you would be maxing out your heroes for Th12 and after close to or just after the rest of your base, assuming you have a max of 5 builders, and not counting your monthly book of heroes. Keep in mind, that if you're in large clan that runs mixed town hall wars, unless you're in the top 3-4 town halls, you can likely war even with more than one hero down, and so you might not need the above method at all. (Do check with your leaders before). Finally, if you are planning on running constant wars with the max number of heroes, and want to keep 1 hero down, it's important to primarily use and level up equipment that synergizes with an army that works for all heroes, i.e. dragon/hydra spam. Thus the equipment to prioritize upgrading would be: Giant Arrow, Rage Gem, Eternal Tomb, Spiky Ball.
You always have more heroes than you can use in battle. Always have a hero on upgrade as you wont use it in battle either way, its better to upgrade it than when you dont need it. When that hero is maxed, swap it out and repeat the process.
I hate using hero potions, having super powered max level heroes for an hour and then going back to low level heroes afterwards. You 100% need to level up your Grand Warden if you don't want him to die quickly and if you want him to be useful besides only buffing. He's okay at low level, he's awesome at max level. Max level hero equipment on low level heroes makes them better but not fantastic, trust me, I know. As a veteran of this game with 6 accounts I suggest when upgrading your heroes at th12 plus upgrade all your heroes at the same time and use a farming army like 100 sneaky goblins, 5 wall jump potions, 1 haste potion and a log roller siege machine.
I can assure everyone here that you will not regret prioritizing heroes and walls. Focus on that and base Design. You will become a vital peace in war dispite the war weight nerf years ago. TH16 nearly maxed walls 10 year vet.
Here's the thing for me..I like your video and I play Clash of Clan to have fun, Every town I play it's bringing me joy and I am a th16 and I have one rule, Max that base when Maxed then go to next town hall level, I don't care about magic items what I care about Having fun and watching videos about Clash of Clans. SIMPLE IS THAT.
It sounds good but it doesn't balance things out, you see it's really really good in offense but in defense, its gonna be bad. Heroes with high level are really good in defense and can help a lot to not getting rekt and having a good defense is a must, it doesn't matter how good you are in attacking if your base is so easy to 3s
Bro forgot that you will be using them heroes for farming. 3 hero potions are enough for clan wars. Now try to factor attacking every day, and you’ll realize its hard to even finish the 5 stars daily bonus.
A question: 2:05 how is this true when labs take months longer than building upgrades? (even if you buy 3 lab potions per week, which you might not afford if you are buying 3 hero potions per week and spending raid metals on something else like cc troops or builder base loot) Some points that you seem to miss: Again there is also this issue about, you are only getting 3 hero potions per week, but you have usually about 7 war attacks per week, so you have 4 war attacks per week where you are attacking say a th15 with level 10 or 20 heroes. I think I even commented on one of your videos about this before (and I will probably keep doing it until you fix your talking point on these or correct me if I am missing something, but for now it seems that I am right if you do not have a valid counterargument to any of this). You can't assume that every clan donates all the time to do back to back war attacks either because that isn't true (I am not certain if you are just miscalculating outright or assuming this, but you can't assume this). I am in a war oriented clan with around 48 members on average and we do back to back wars but we have 2-3 hour gaps where not a lot of donations are happening a few times a day and I usually cannot get back to back war attacks without spending raid metals on cc troops, and I probably have it better than most COC players clan-wise being in a war-oriented almost-full clan with rather active members (almost all of them on multiple times a day). You did make this point about farming (in high leagues especially) would suck with low heroes, so I give you credit for that. Your strategy works a somewhat better if I am spending money on extra potions and gold passes and stuff (because then I have more hero potions and gems otherwise for boosting stuff and I would be able to boost heroes for most or all of my war attacks like you seem to assume) but for free to play I don't think it's advisable to avoid hero upgrades before the last few town halls, since half or more of your war attacks each week will be with low level heroes for free to play users. What you get is that I think you are right that your strategy to max is the most efficient (at least more or less), but you are 1 or 2 starring half your war attacks AND (this part you mention more or less correctly) having crappy farming raids, so that is the actual opportunity cost in my estimate. Your video title is extremely misleading given that. A more suitable title would be something like: "the argument for not upgrading heroes". Honestly I wouldn't feel the need to be confrontational about this as much if you did not have such a confident title to your video in light of all of this You bring up the same points in a lot of videos and a chunk of them are mostly valid, but this issue is just too big to ignore imo, feel free to disagree and respond I am happy to discuss.
I have th10,11,12,13 and 14. I use hero potions for war and only upgrade a hero beween wars. If you do both attacks early that gives you 24 hours plus to upgrade.
this guy is like those financial youtubers who tell you like don't buy a house instead invest into stock but for coc
except he is right though. I only dont agree on the upgrade one hero at a time when you are upgrading them,, i think its better to do them all at once
@@banglawarlock3947 at a higher townhall you can upgrade a hero but still have 4 remaining heroes,: thus, optimizing your time while maintaining a full army.
@@banglawarlock3947 heroes are too important during attacks to upgrade all at once. I would say upgrade 3
Just because it doesn’t sound moral doesn’t mean he is wrong, which he isn’t but is up to you to decide what’s best for you at the moment
😅
People balancing their entire strategy around something that will be ruined by 1 balance change have always been a strange case to me
@@dumbvillage9253 it’s been in the game the whole life cycle
@MizzyLP That's so not true lol, hero potions used to give +5 lvl to heroes for 1 hour, hope they change it back because even though this video is ignoring the main point of the whole game, It is annoying to get beaten in cw by noobs who only upgrade electro dragon, balloons and with a hero potion they can 3 star any base....
@@Gelert_Get good. Who cares if people 3 star you.
@@Gelert_ Um hello???? The game is not meant to be a piece of shit to play it’s meant to be enjoyable. And make your base anti edrag or just 3 star your mirror in war
@andidyouknow8208 I understand that, but how is the game more enjoyable if you handicap yourself by not upgrading the most important aspects for attacks? You may have them at max level in wars but for normal attacks, which makes up majority of attacks, you are literally stuck with useless heroes. I don't think thats fun tbh.
I play efficiently in general, but I will not be rushing. It's just a play style thing, I enjoy maxing out each town hall, even if it's less efficient overall macro plan. Each to their own though
@@Chombiee respectable playstyle, but i suppose this is useful for your lower level heroes
I know right, i waste over 50k DE daily but i refuse to go to the next townhall until every last trap is maxed 😂
True, but it is impossible to play efficiently when your walls are max and you can't spend your loot. I always had to push the townhall just to be able to upgrade walls.
And all of that still gets 3 star
@@sankuogyeah i’m even waiting to up my th13 because the whole time heroes were upgrading and I did very little war attacks. Man I want to play for enjoy the game ya know 😂
Why invest 30 - 45 gems worth of raid medal every week on 6 potentially 9 attacks wouldn't it be easier to be able to triple every attack instead
Heroes play a very important role in defence
@@clashwithritesh9804 this guide is for people who war mainly and don’t have too much time to play the game in general, so he’s helping those people get higher hero levels for a very easy to earn resource the raid medals
Defense is nothing to him cz he is rushed as fuck lol.
@@YaminAbrar-s4l heroes does little in defenses. if heroes were important normal mode max th17 or 16 would be tough to beat but it isnt
@@banglawarlock3947You're joking right? If I'm attacking an opponent with a level 35 Queen, their Queen is going down quick with minimal damage to my troops or heroes. If my opponent has a level 100 Queen, my troops or heroes are in much more danger.
@kevinpapac7619 yes but nobody looks at a base and goes "shit the hero levels are so high i need to make sure to avoid it". If you are reckless you of course your troops are melted. But that can be any defense too. People worry about taking out base core not heroes.
Imagine buying hero potions that add no value to progress and skipping builder potions, reserach potions and even ores. Man loves the temporal stuff
He's becoming that one extremist in one field. Guys pls upgrade your heros, hero potion last 1 hour and you need to attack a lot more to bring loot.
sneaky goblin literally exists
just spam one troop, that is boring, do you recommend everyone plays the game this way or are you just white knighting for a RUclipsr who probably has no idea who you are?
@@nostalgia_1439 White knighting? You ok? People watch this guy because they want to minmax their base.
@@kagan4926 If you look at the comments, there are people who also just play the game for enjoyment. I am sure some people are looking to rush as well but not everyone
I use potions during cwl and clan war.
Guys if you REALLY want to know how to play the game... Well, just play, you don't need a random guy on the internet suggesting you to rush your base just to get the end of the game quicker. Play like YOU want to.
Preach it man! I couldn’t agree more! This guys a joke telling people to rush their bases. You miss ALL the best experiences coc has to offer if you simply rush and skip past all the lower town hall levels. You’ll also suck on offense when you hit th16 because you have to rely on potions and magic gimmicks and have no real solid attack strategies,
@@OGRCFanaticI have 3 accounts and I was able to jump from th14 at the beginning of last year and jump to th16 and am now a almost maxed out th17 his method works
Well some people want exactly that: being as efficient as possible. Some people enjoy minmaxing all aspects of the game and counting everything up.
bro its a guide on how to progress fast like man.. if they didn't care about upgrading fast they wouldn't be on youtube like you are? Is your only purpose commenting like a loser so others don't follow a GUIDE ON RUclips/?? JUST GET OFF THE APp
1. lets our heroes at level 1.
2. keep upgrading Th.
3. calling ourselves smart rush.
4. raid medals just for hero potion.
5. ours game is done and start a new acc and keep doing the same.
😂 I prefer Tee s approach
By only upgrading TH when my army and hero little bit ready
Maybe I will fall behind a bit but will be winner when attacking his base with lvl 10 hero
I have done it for 4 of my accs, convenient if you started doing it 3-4 years ago so you have 1-2 maxed acc
@@SUTH_33 this is for people who don’t want to upgrade their heroes, you don’t have to keep the heroes to level 1 forever and you can choose how to play the game, byt for the people new to the game this is good advice to know
It is smart
What the hell is the point of pointlessly rushing to get to the newest townhall and skip the entire experience of every other townhall? Centering your entire playstyle and experience playing clash of clans on timing the most efficient magic item usage has to be the worst way to play this game. Anyone who would follow this advice has a screw loose
no way people can actually play the game the way they want to 😱😱😱😱😱 dumbass
Mate it's a game, it really isn't that deep
Yeah man, this aint a race.
@@albertanmotorcyclist6419 I totally disagree. In fact I think the opposite. I've been on both sides and to me I get extreme satisfaction on calculations and strategising all my resources to maximize progress, attacks basically everything in the game. It's like math
Some take fun of playing like this, if you don't and think it's bad so why watching videos like this. Go and play the game and watch others content creator😊 😊😊
Remember that heroes are important for defense as well.
Aaaaand this is why wars end up as ties all the time for people not maxing heroes. What about hero stats when defending? Do hero spells also help for that? Not at all.
Same for rushing defenses upgrading only core defenses it's not a good strategy causing you to get 3 stared and lose trophies and cause a great loss to your clan aswell
@@s.ksharma8759 you usually dont because you get easy 3 Stars. So at worst its a 3-3 trade
@@gamersreactions9267 since you have low level hero for normal attack it's mostly very hard to get 3 star's but even if you do get 3 star's on every attack it's still a bad trade and will make trophies grinding hard
Buddy You can 3star at 13-14 with 1 hero 😂@@s.ksharma8759
@s.ksharma8759 Sneaky Goblins for regular attacks clear
I think you might be misreading the point. For free to play players, the maxing of levels IS the point of the game. It’s like a little , daily OCD challenge to accomplish something.
which much better done at higher th level. if you max as f2p you're wasting magic item value
@@banglawarlock3947do you people not realise upgrading hero’s give extra hp and damage?
@AKayani559 it does yee, hero potion gives you that anyways. Im just saying that if you think maxing fills your heart, go for it but it will never catch to new content as easily. The main loint of rushing is instead of spending time on useless defenses, you are able to instead use that builder time for heroes (and other offense building) letting you adapt to meta whenever you need
@@banglawarlock3947 ok what’s the point of rushing ? Why even play the game if your trying to skip 90% of the game as fast as possible
@AKayani559 you cant say that. thats peoples preference. i like getting to touch new contents faster and earlier. i could say the same thing to you. why bother upgrading defenses when people with 1 braincells at least can sweep your base? i could use that time to get newer offensive troops to donate and provide value to clan / check out other armies and spend more of the time instead for heroes eventually. for me, if i am going to sweeped anyways i might as well be able to retaliate.
Rushers wanted to skip the cannons and archer towers at first... now the must be leveled for multi towers. If you really think that SC won't circle back around to heroes in that same situation you are clueless. Plus what about your heroes for defense? I have had my base save by king or queen many times and they have been maxed. If they were level 1 my base would be steamrolled
And then these players will say"playing coc is frustrating " 🎉
Blud became crazy after the lavalooon puppets💀
Tells us to rush to have better magic item value but we wont be using those magic items like the book of heros for ages due to low levels. We would be waisting a hero book every month
Exactly, he hasn't thought this out at all
Truth
I don't understand why "magic item effective use" is an argument. You can only hold one magic item at a time and if you dont buy offers or are F2P, you should use those items regardless if you can easy get another one. Saved time is still saved time, even if it isn't "the best value".
But if you buy hero potions every week you wont be able to buy any clock tower potions or research potions and that slows down your progress a ton
I think you won't be good at attacking with this method.
To be good in the game you need to practice attacking (of course with hero) in multilayer match and low level heroes are useless in higher th. How can you be good at the game when you can only use your proper attack during clan war?
There's no point in having good progress when you suck in attacking.
The game is much more focus on attacking not on defense....
@@renznatividad9782 most people never practice anyway, they just repeat for years straight instead of learning how to get good. You can get good in 1-2 months if you put the effort in
bro he literally showed why hero potion is op. you will have max heroes all time for war. and you dont need months of attacking to be good. you can challenge with clanmates or your own base to learn an attack. if you need months of practise to learn to attack its either your army is trash or you are just really bad (even if you are bad there are many spam armies that triples without looking so its really your fault).
This is remotely false. I have 2 alt accounts with rushed heroes and I was able to 3 star a new th15 with a rushed th14 army equipment matters more than hero levels.
@@Flooma_1 Not necessarily. Most equipment boosts the stats of heroes in some way, so a hero that's close to max for a particular hall will do more damage than one that's low leveled; plus said hero will survive longer because they have more HP.
@ I assume you haven’t seen people with level one equipment? You can have the stats of a maxed out th17 hero but you don’t have high level equipment. You’re level 100 king is no better than a level 1 BK
I’m sorry but unless your only doing one war a week then 3 a week won’t be enough and then what you permanently have lvl 1 hero’s tell you get to th17 and you push 99 lvls on your king and queen? That sounds terrible
Edit: also it might help you get more value for your building upgrades, but all of your hero books will be used on like 9 hour upgrades until you upgrade them so it’s double dumb to do.
Upgrade at least a minimum, so you wouldn't be needing hero potions in normal attacks.
My personal minimum:
King and Queen lvl 50
Warden lvl 35
Champion lvl 25
I have this for all of my alt accounts, except my main which is maxed.
@@dmgrimes69 i have a th15(rushed) queen is something like 58, king 51, rc 21, warden 30
Can you help me how much should I upgrade me my heroes for war attacks
you should stop upgrading when your heroes' upgrade time become 5-7 days. That's where your hero is at low to average power and hero book will have value and come in clutch
Yeah that about my goal for my almost maxed th13 both king and queen at 40 rn and my warden and rc at 15 long way to go but by the end of the month I should be there I think
All your attacks outside of clan wars will be ass if you don’t level your heroes. And tbh so will your clan wars attacks because you won’t have enough practice using high level heroes.
Buying hero potions instead of other much more valuable items isnt very valuable on the other hand. Specially in the clan that you are not allowed to use both hits. 2 hero potions per war can be very expensive in the long run.
1 hero potion for 2 attacks in war. that's 15 wars max per months. u get 12 hero potions from raid medals. 1 from monthly event. you will problems in 2 wars in a month. you can opt out of those 2 wars to help your clan. then repeat next month. I am f2p and th16 . my heros aren't bad 45 level. but my progress has been speedy.
@sharathvasudev Again majority of clans doesnt allow it to use both attacks within 1 hour. Usually you need to attack it in first 12 hours and save the 2nd attack for clean up. That is 2 potions per war or 6-8 potions per week. But you are not getting it more than 3 per week. The whole idea about hero potions is to use it when you are mismatched and you need some extra power, not to fix the broken account.
@@tadejbozicko9869 just attack at the 11 and 12 hour mark. For CWL you can attack on end of day 1 and start of day 2, so you use 3 potions for 6 attacks
Facts. Imagine spending your medals on hero potions when you could be buying starry ore.
Facts, imagine you can 3 star th17 or 16 on regular wars. Getting ore loots than someone staying on th13 vs th12.
Rushing heroes now a days is really efficient. Remeber youre not just buying potion yo attack. You are 3starring to loot. Now multiply th17 loot with 1k+ ores vs someone 500-700 ores by 15 wars. Not included that you attack have 2 attacks.
Yeah I’m never rushing, never was my play style 😢 I feel so sad when I see a high lv town hall only for them to be low level hero’s and crap walls. Back in the day it was harder to upgrade and supercell lowers the cost and there’s literally hammer jam and the amount of people never taking advantage of that is crazy
rushers benefit hammer jam because they can upgrade what actually matters. even if they have crap walls what's high level wall gonna do besides being a beautiful decoration?
@ walls as I see them is something that consumes time when troops are try to get to the defense and that could save you from a three star
Content Creators like this is one of the reasons why players nowadays have low level heroes and are Edrag Spammers
wtf, this method is an absolutly shit, this will make you loose the experience of the game, and you gonna have trash heros to defend your village
For him game experience doesn't matter everything is a profit or loss statement
youre saying you can defend 100% of the time iwth good heroes? are you new? defenses are unbalanced. you can make any army and triple with it because of equipments. the experience of higher th is much better. you have more option to learn any army you like in higher th. if you are new i agree maxxing is okay but you wil burn out easily after a certain point if you keep that way
@@banglawarlock3947 lol you rush you have no right to talk smack 😂🤡
@@brandondean5680my “rushed” accounts can three star your base 😂🫵🏻
@@brandondean5680 just shows how uninformed you are about the game.
I had russhed in past but I swear just maxing every little thing and then going to next town hall is the best feeling u can have in coc
Do not rush your hero’s. Any high level or active clan including mine look at your hero’s first and probably only at your hero’s lvls before deciding to kick you or not
yes. i see new players in my clan and judge in term of their barbarian king level.
my king is only 45. I am f2p and th16. my clan never kicked me. I have come in clutch in close wars as i usually attack last. hero potions all the way. I have been following this video's idea from a year. my equipment are mostly maxed from my th.
There are other clans Not only your clan lmao, If a clan kicks you it takes point 2 seconds to find another clan
@@TheBadLarry what if I'm the leader
Lmao, does this guy not understand how hero potions work? Your clan must be led by a noob
Nonsense get a research potion Instead the lab is the bottleneck, not heros
Jadon would not approve.
I don't like this idea👍
Yes you could stay in wars the entire month, but the second CWL comes around your screwed. You can’t spend 7 hero potions in 7 days every month as a f2p player
We stopped taking you seriously since your OP lavaloon equipment video.
On top of that rushing heroes isn’t an option anymore reason being we all have extra hero slot to keep it upgrading.
Rushing your townhall simply means that you skip all the things you’re supposed to learn at certain townhall. Which in turn causes more trouble in higher townhall for being shabby at the offensive strategy. Keep in mind defense is fucked up already as you are RUSHED
Simple is that all it takes for supercell is to nerf rewards or the hero potion just imagine how fucked those people with 10 20 leval of heroes be at higher th
"We stopped taking seriously"
like all of us? For one mistake weeks ago?
So that one mistake converted you to a hater? 😂
I agree with your point about rushing heroes tho. That sounds very reasonable ✌️
higher th is much easier to learn a strategy. defenses are worthless anyways. max th7? dragons triple anyways and you maxed th 9? dragons sweep you. maxed th 11? oh look someone spamming dragons cleared your base. there are other attacks which require not much skill make lower th a joke. i remember learning qc lalo in th9 when i was maxxing. shit was hard to do because literraly not enough army camp size to bring stuff. but rushed th 15? i have so much leftovers to adapt tot the base. defenses have no real value. average player will triple you anyways after looking at a youtube video for 3 minutes
@@banglawarlock3947 but the intensity changes. I can 2 star 75% rushed th 17 with only heroes. Putting few more troops and comes triple easily. Rushed players will find it tough to maintain leagues which also brings scarcity of ores which means the equipment will also have less effectiveness due to being under levelled
@@banglawarlock3947 I have a virtually maxed 15, a maxed 13 and a rushed 14.
The 13 gets 3 starred 54% of the time, the rushed 14 is 3 starred 75% of the time and the maxed 15 20% of the time. The impact on defense is obvious when we put our rushers in compared to our maxers.
I'm not denying the offensive impact of rushing, it's definitely massive but our th13s 3 star rushed 15s and 16s all the time. It's a tradeoff, no free lunch ✌️
Upgrading heroes is the most important thing in the clash of clans in my opinion. Because there will be a point when you Don't want to rely on hero porsion.
guys don't listen to this guy if you're rushing upgrade your heros also
you will regret later
nah
I listened and I’m now a maxed out th17 so I don’t regret a thing
@@Flooma_1bruh this channel started in 2021 he probably didn't even put guides to rush to th17 back then even if he did game was different back then and it takes 3-4 years f2p to get to th 17 if you play everyday no way you already maxed th17😂
@@epicyoda. I followed his strategic rushing guide to get to th16 in July of last year and I then almost maxed out the defenses at th16 before th17 came out. Please shut up
@@Flooma_1 show proof
okay so in multiplayer battles we are gonna get totally cooked guys
Jadon (and every sane person) Will NOT be happy about this video
you mistyped insane
Jadon is a noob
"dont waste your builders on heroes when you could be upgrading other things".
Heroes do count as upgrades to complete when your maxxing out you cant just leave the most valuable asset to your army and defense just because you want to get to the next town hall faster take the game a little slower because that is the point of the game.
Doesn't that mean if you upgrade your heroes at the very end you'll just have your heroes down for weeks on end?
@@dragon_nammi yeah i was kind of thinking the same id rather have them down while being a low th than at the max th
@@dragon_nammi this is mainly of u wanna strategic rush to the max th but imo coc is much more fun if u try to max ur base each th before upgrading
It takes about a year to fully upgrade a single hero yeah
@@dragon_nammi yes, however now that you have 5 heroes you can level up/max a hero, once at a time and use the lower level heroes with the potions
@MizzyLPbut you can't rely on them, since you need at least 1 potion per war, so for 1 war (since you need 7 potions per 2 weeks, while you can only get 6 free) you'd be out of potions. And don't get me started on CWL
This is a pretty stupid strat imo
you must be new
@banglawarlock3947 new as in to the channel or coc ?
@@banglawarlock3947 Hey looks like I found a white knight for the crazy rush strats youtuber
@nostalgia_1439 keep upgrading your defenses instead of heroes then
@@banglawarlock3947 I literally have nearly max heroes at th13 (for that th obviously) before even building scattershots, so I am not doing that either lol
What about defense the heroes play a major and a very crucial role in defending your base
Rush base user doesnt care about defends at all
@@barasantoso1846 yeah this is true
@MizzyLP i was rush base, fix it in 2 /3 years. My defends suck but my hero always max now. Its o satisfiying. No i can catch up the news content and ne hero lvl with ease
A thing i do myself is using league medals for builder potions for all 5 heroes at the same time, instead of hammers. If you have 6 builders you skip nearly as much time (10 days for 4x builder potion) as like using normal Books and get all your heroes over night back if you use a lot of medals.
please don't rush TH until your heroes are max of previous TH(eg. you want to upgrade to TH 14 you should have max of TH12), this game become horrendous to play without hero potion (i have very rushed base hero upgrade time almost accumulated to 6 months , compared to this i have very fun playing my non rushed bases)
bro thinks everyone gets magic items like its Christmas every day or something, dumb video 👎
The people who follow this guide will be stuck with the new hero at level 1, while the maxers will have it at level 70 just like with the minion prince
And if you do this, nobody gonna want you in their clan, I certentially wouldnt
Tf you expect me to do with my full dark elixir storage? And when I'm Th16 and have all my heroes at level 1, I'm supposed to grind all the dark elixir to max them after I wasted millions of dark elixir by not spending it? Also imagine having your heroes max for only 3 hrs per week or spending your raid medals on hero potions when you could be spending them on starry ore. This advice is stupid af.
i dont think it worth to sac your hero level to get just a little bit more value on magic items. If someone follow this they will suddenly have over than 400 hero levels to upgtade which is actually a nightmare
Rushing will bore the game. Always Max ur base
Why we should keep buying these potions when we can use our rаid medals into other stuff
Why cant we just upgrade heroes like the troops WITHOUT the builder man...
Would improve the game dramatically imo
NO BRO FOR DEFENCE HERO LEVEL MATTERS
I dont care who clash of clans sends im never gonna rush my heroes
Soon they will double the raid medal cost and put more time limit to purchase...if most people started to skip hero upgrades. Then who didn't upgrade them will come in same comment section to abuse 😂.
Soo true this game is unpredictable
They don't want people to rush i remember back in the day people used to rush to th 11 without building any new buildings so now they force players to build everything before upgrading
Lavaloon puppet is broken 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Your equipment are weak with low heroes and you dont have unlimeted hero potions
We don't have infinity amount of power and hero potions
This is also a point I was making 👍
U call it meta
I call it rush
rushing is meta whats your point?
@banglawarlock3947 read caption mate
@@banglawarlock3947kicking rushed players from clan is also meta😉
@@banglawarlock3947 this is actually sad.
So, I think there's factors you're not accounting for.
1) Hero books are handed out more frequently than builder books. When you make the comparison of time saved between the hero and builder books, you should be comparing the builder book to 2 hero books, given you get 2 of them in the gold path.
2) You suggest that rushing players spend raid medals on hero potions. However, there are already two large needs that rushing players need to spend raid medals on: clock tower potions and ores.
Any player that is rushing is probably also rushing their builder base for the 6th builder. That's 3 clock tower potions every week. And if anyone wants to actually use their equipment on their heroes, they need to spending the rest of their raid medals on ores. That leaves no raid medals left for anything else (you can't even afford to buy all of the ores at that point). Given that players also get more hero books, what strategically rushed players should be doing is putting some builders on hero upgrades while also upgrading offensive capabilities and other TH prerequisites. And when a player reaches a power spike (like, say, TH13), then spend a little bit extra time working on heroes until you get close to capping out an upgrade trigger (nearly maxed walls, all offensive requirements maxed, heroes almost maxed for the TH level, etc).
corretion... every player should rush the builder base for the 6th builder. that is the one rushing I will always agree with.
just not everyone should get the clock potions, farming takes too long there for this to be worth it.
Bro lost all his aura after the lavaloon video.
Those days are fcking pain upgrading heros 24/7 to get them maxed out.
Yessir. I maxed out my base and supercell banned me for hatespeech. 3-4 years of work gone in one second. ❤
@@Pal-us9uv yeah that's ur fault dude
then just go to the next TH and again put them to sleep for 24/7 until u decide to upgrade the base after maxing and the cycle goes on
@@Pal-us9uv Skill issue
@@Pal-us9uvyour fault
When you said not a single upgrade is available that is 12 days or longer. But there is, the geared mortar in the home village at th10
It uses master builder not normal builder
Lol this guy forgot the rush your base is and not upgrading you hero the hero in your base become weak for defense in Wars(sure it not much but its surely can make difference for 2 stars or 3 stars defense) and farming.defense too. This guy just want your base to minimax, what a load of crap is this.
Yeah good luck joining a decent clan if you do this. Just a liability in war
You forget that you can be in a FWA clan and so you can upgrade heroes during wars. Especially if you buy gold pass you should have at least 1 hero you can get decent book value.
And if you play some real (mostly for th16/17) CWL, you can (but don't have to) use hero potions you have stockpiled from gold passes, etc.
I respect your point and everyone can play how ever they want but personally i dont enjoy atacking with low level heroes , not only in war now i have max heroes and dont use hero potions and enjoy the game this way way more😊
Don't rush guys,, rushing was fun back in 5/6 years back in clan wars
No bro you have to must upgrade your heroes to max
If your heroes level are too low then starts upgrading from now that one day will come when your heroes are maxed out❤
This may be good for people’s alt accounts but someone new playing the game should upgrade hero’s and casual players as well I mean the amount of extra dark elixir I have at lower town halls is crazy, especially with everything in the lab getting its cost cut in half.
Dude get out of here with your noob guides you are just making more people to rush their bases and get 3 stared by everyone bec heroes play a big big rule in defense and what is the point of playing the game when you skip town halls and not experience them if you answer this correctly i will delete the game and giveaway my account th16 nearly maxed
higher th have better experience to learn. you have more troops to experiment with.
@ bruh you can’t have fun and experience with levl 1 heroes and upgrading your town hall every week 💀🤓
The fact that the game has no specific way to be played gives you the opportunity to do whatever you want, so do exactly that and don't be angry at others for enjoying the game in a different way. It's also such a huge game that you can find people that thinks and plays exactly like you, so join whoever fits your playstyle, that being mentioned, why bother in telling others what is right and what is wrong? Pointless discussion imo
Every year you will get new th level 😅
@@akshaybavkar5006 so?????? Don’t upgrade until you are maxed!!
that hero potion thing very quickly falls appart when you think of CWL
do your attack at the end of day X and start of day X+1
@@banglawarlock3947 you are not wrong... just think it's a waste of medals that should go to ores
@@banglawarlock3947sometimes it's impossible, bc sometimes it restarts in the night
I enjoy your content, I even support your creator code, till you start talking about rushing again...!! Really puts me down..!! Coz you don't speak about the negative side of rushing... You make rushing seems to be a cake walk and with no drawbacks, but it's not... Besides your base will constantly get 3* by lower townhalls, you will not be accepted in 90% of the active clans, nor they will take you in wars...
Literally I got 3 star in town hall 17, I can't believe this 😅, Just 2 days before I made town 16 and I get boost. So all troops and hero is become max level
Semi upgrading the heroes is better for me. Upgrade 10-15 levels shy of max for a town hall, so i can get my lab potions from raid medals. And hero potion with the extra.
I know it's not efficient but it makes my game experience better. And yeah clan won't kick me for not upgrading heroes as well (many clans die in a few months so I need to get into different clans)
Edit: This has also helped me not farm for dark elixir exclusively and help me use up my dark elixir as I get them so that it never over flows
(if you attack multiple times daily farming, you still overflow though. I don't have much time to play the game)
So what do I do with all that excess dark elixir? (beyond pets or labs cca once a week).
take a bath in it?
@@alicepbg2042 sure, leave it for others to raid
Your main drawback is really lab time from th9 until th14. I find it better not to rush and focus almost exclusively on spending any perks on training potions for resources grabs, as well as research potions to accelerate that process. The th12 hero upgrade seems grueling but you also have several new items to upgradr in the lab as well as multiple upgrade levels needed for several items as well.
Didn't watch the video because simply telling people to not upgrade heroes is extremely shortsighted by default. You're only looking at this one dimensionally; CoC is about attacking AND defending, not just attacking. Bases with low level heroes get steamrolled more frequently than bases with heroes decently leveled or close to max; a hero taking out one of yours in a crucial moment has always been a main point to watch for when attacking. Relying on hero potions won't help you in the long run and is more wasteful than simply getting dark elixir to upgrade stuff. Plus, weak heroes often means a base itself is particularly weak most of the time.
Not to mention most clans that see people with weak heroes will just kick them out because they'll more often that not be a liability in war. I've seen so many people rushing to TH14 over the past 2 weeks alone with their king and queen below 40 that I've had to check every couple hours to make sure we didn't have a guy in the clan that would just be fodder in wars.
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There are 2 problems here. One is that new players cannot access newer content unless they rush, due to how the levelling system works and time constraints. The other problem is that SC just allow these new players to rush instead of reducing the time even more. I agree they reduce the time every update, but upgrading heroes past level 60 is a pain and takes too much time, therefore these players rush, and SC instead of reducing hero times or removing the need for builders on heroes or making useable heroes while upgrading, make the hero potion OP. This just encourages people to rush even more and doesnt fix the problem. If anything, SC should make heroes useable while upgrading and make every level take 1-2 days be it level 1-2 or level 99-100. Or condense hero levels into upgrades of 10 levels each and make it take a week to upgrade. This just makes it easier to upgrade the heroes and doesnt make it a chore to upgrade them.
I had a level17 grand warden at th 16 then I decided to upgrade it just get your warden to level 55 or 60 to get best value when warden is at upgrade at higher town hall it feels like hell without warden so get warden some levels before doing strategic rushing rest hero doesn't affect that much while farming and my opinion is to only use hero potion while cwl and not clan war I mainly use my raid medals for wall ring and research potion because laboratory is the real bottle neck
"Not upgrading your heroes is something a nazi would do"
~Gi robot
hero potions is equivalent to buying things with credit, sure it will work in the short while so long as you keep using it, but out right owning something fully will bring you more prosperity in the long run. I rather have heros that are truly high leveled than having to constantly be boosting them artificially
still like everything in my base to be maxed out before upgrading to the next th, the satisfaction it gives to me is just pure
I think the overall message is pretty bad advice. Rushing to Th17 before upgrading your heroes is going to be monumentally stupid and inefficient.
For a lot of the early and mid game THs (upto TH11), you can have your heroes available for war attacks but have them down otherwise since upgrades on average are under 2 days. So if you want to strategically rush, have your heroes down constantly while using the rest of your builders to upgrade your army buildings and key defenses and then move on. You'll find that you're getting your heroes to near the max of the previous TH before moving up (i.e. you're gonna have level 35-40 king and queen, and a level 20 warden when you get done with TH11). This allows you to instead spend your raid medals on Ore and Lab potions to get your war and farming armies ready and your hero equipment levelled. Past that point, at TH12 and after, you can shift to the strategy defined below:
If you don't want to strategically rush, but want to maximize your ore economy (through wars) without relying on the janky hero potions for your war attacks and having to suffer low level heroes for your multiplayer, or your heroes are all getting up there where their upgrade times are longer than 4-5 days, the way to go about it is rather simple.
Due to the addition of the Minion Prince, you can always keep 1 hero down and war with the max number of heroes you can use. This means keeping 1 builder constantly upgrading the heroes. To maximize the power of this builder, you want to invest heavily in the builder apprentice. A maxed out builder apprentice can cut off 11 hours off of every 24 hours of an upgrade, which is roughly 40-45% more working speed on that upgrade. Thus, using this, you can cut down the time required for each hero upgrade from the 4-5 day, and eventually 8 day mark to 2.5-5 days. Keeping your assisted builder busy upgrading the heroes this way also coincidently works out such that you would be maxing out your heroes for Th12 and after close to or just after the rest of your base, assuming you have a max of 5 builders, and not counting your monthly book of heroes.
Keep in mind, that if you're in large clan that runs mixed town hall wars, unless you're in the top 3-4 town halls, you can likely war even with more than one hero down, and so you might not need the above method at all. (Do check with your leaders before).
Finally, if you are planning on running constant wars with the max number of heroes, and want to keep 1 hero down, it's important to primarily use and level up equipment that synergizes with an army that works for all heroes, i.e. dragon/hydra spam.
Thus the equipment to prioritize upgrading would be: Giant Arrow, Rage Gem, Eternal Tomb, Spiky Ball.
You always have more heroes than you can use in battle. Always have a hero on upgrade as you wont use it in battle either way, its better to upgrade it than when you dont need it. When that hero is maxed, swap it out and repeat the process.
I stop upgrading my heroes using builders since th15 only upgrading it with Book and Hammer and My Progress became faster on Defense upgrades.
This has been my process of a while. I haven't upgraded a hero since i was a TH 13 (outside the hero event). I keep 5 hero potions at all times.
I hate using hero potions, having super powered max level heroes for an hour and then going back to low level heroes afterwards. You 100% need to level up your Grand Warden if you don't want him to die quickly and if you want him to be useful besides only buffing. He's okay at low level, he's awesome at max level. Max level hero equipment on low level heroes makes them better but not fantastic, trust me, I know. As a veteran of this game with 6 accounts I suggest when upgrading your heroes at th12 plus upgrade all your heroes at the same time and use a farming army like 100 sneaky goblins, 5 wall jump potions, 1 haste potion and a log roller siege machine.
I can assure everyone here that you will not regret prioritizing heroes and walls. Focus on that and base Design. You will become a vital peace in war dispite the war weight nerf years ago. TH16 nearly maxed walls 10 year vet.
Here's the thing for me..I like your video and I play Clash of Clan to have fun, Every town I play it's bringing me joy and I am a th16 and I have one rule, Max that base when Maxed then go to next town hall level, I don't care about magic items what I care about Having fun and watching videos about Clash of Clans. SIMPLE IS THAT.
On the opposite heroes are the best to upgrade because if you have them high level both your attacking and defensive abilities rise
I'm still gonna upgrade the heroes i use for farming but it's nice to know i can just ignore the rest for now
It sounds good but it doesn't balance things out, you see it's really really good in offense but in defense, its gonna be bad. Heroes with high level are really good in defense and can help a lot to not getting rekt and having a good defense is a must, it doesn't matter how good you are in attacking if your base is so easy to 3s
Heroes are very important. Keeping them at lvl 1 is a shit move.
Bro forgot that you will be using them heroes for farming. 3 hero potions are enough for clan wars. Now try to factor attacking every day, and you’ll realize its hard to even finish the 5 stars daily bonus.
I always try and have my heroes a th off max so if I was a th13 I would have max th11 heroes for example
The main reason to rush only is for ores but in long term its better not to rush
A question:
2:05 how is this true when labs take months longer than building upgrades? (even if you buy 3 lab potions per week, which you might not afford if you are buying 3 hero potions per week and spending raid metals on something else like cc troops or builder base loot)
Some points that you seem to miss:
Again there is also this issue about, you are only getting 3 hero potions per week, but you have usually about 7 war attacks per week, so you have 4 war attacks per week where you are attacking say a th15 with level 10 or 20 heroes. I think I even commented on one of your videos about this before (and I will probably keep doing it until you fix your talking point on these or correct me if I am missing something, but for now it seems that I am right if you do not have a valid counterargument to any of this). You can't assume that every clan donates all the time to do back to back war attacks either because that isn't true (I am not certain if you are just miscalculating outright or assuming this, but you can't assume this). I am in a war oriented clan with around 48 members on average and we do back to back wars but we have 2-3 hour gaps where not a lot of donations are happening a few times a day and I usually cannot get back to back war attacks without spending raid metals on cc troops, and I probably have it better than most COC players clan-wise being in a war-oriented almost-full clan with rather active members (almost all of them on multiple times a day).
You did make this point about farming (in high leagues especially) would suck with low heroes, so I give you credit for that.
Your strategy works a somewhat better if I am spending money on extra potions and gold passes and stuff (because then I have more hero potions and gems otherwise for boosting stuff and I would be able to boost heroes for most or all of my war attacks like you seem to assume) but for free to play I don't think it's advisable to avoid hero upgrades before the last few town halls, since half or more of your war attacks each week will be with low level heroes for free to play users.
What you get is that I think you are right that your strategy to max is the most efficient (at least more or less), but you are 1 or 2 starring half your war attacks AND (this part you mention more or less correctly) having crappy farming raids, so that is the actual opportunity cost in my estimate. Your video title is extremely misleading given that. A more suitable title would be something like: "the argument for not upgrading heroes".
Honestly I wouldn't feel the need to be confrontational about this as much if you did not have such a confident title to your video in light of all of this
You bring up the same points in a lot of videos and a chunk of them are mostly valid, but this issue is just too big to ignore imo, feel free to disagree and respond I am happy to discuss.
I have th10,11,12,13 and 14. I use hero potions for war and only upgrade a hero beween wars. If you do both attacks early that gives you 24 hours plus to upgrade.