@@BuildItnow Ahh, i'ght 👍 Suppose they like the brand 😅 I like the conversation, still looking into electronics like this, could be good for project ideas of we were allowed to work with the stuff
@@Nayel-Khouatra by project mean to power motors and other small things or for my latest electrolysis which is less complicated than it sounds Edit: sorry can’t do video some important stuff has come up and will take a while
Those are usually 550mwh Batteries meaning you would need about 14 of them to fully charge some modern phones but its still better than them ending up in a dumpster
I've done an extensive amount of testing with these cylindrical pouch cells out of vapes. Anywhere from 600mAh to 1450mAh. I used 14 of the 1450mAh ones to build a 7S2P pack and attached a couple different boards including a 65W PD/PPS buck module which I connected to a Macbook and was able to obtain the full 65W charge rate from it. There are 0 datasheets publicly available for these cells as far as I know. I emailed EVE for some and never got a response back so not sure if they even share them with the public. I would be very careful about using these. You have no idea what the max discharge rate is without the datasheet. I tested a handful of cells about 20 tests in total from 1A to 5A measuring temp and plotting voltage throughout discharge. The 1450's seemed like 2C continuous/3C burst max.
Thanks for the comment and the details! I've also done some testing as well as spoken to one of these companies and here's what I've put together. I was lucky enough to find the 550mAh lithium cell that I often use datasheet, the datasheet for this specific cell indicates that it has a fairly stock standard lithium cell charge and discharge (no more than an amp, min 2.8 volts, max 4.2 and so on) To be extra safe I've also run them through a lithium capacity tester a few times and its discharge profile remains consistent as well as its capacity (allowing for a 5% margin of error from the cheapish tester). And finally, I hope spoken with a company that produces these and I've been told that these are standard lithium batteries that they get from Chinese factories, they go for lithium instead of Alkaline as it has a better shelf life (that sounded weird to be but I do not know a lot about battery chemistry). I'm told that they have to use high-quality lithium batteries as their products are used near a person's face, I'm also told that they don't use recycled batteries (in some of their products) as the battery becomes too dangerous to use near a persons face once it hits 1 - 5% degradation (which happens at 10 - 50 cycles). Ultimately I'm quite comfortable using these batteries based on my own tests, I also use them in parallel at low current so its very little strain on each battery, but I completely agree with your concern and need for testing. I wish these single-use products didn't exist.
Who the hell not able to STOP the manufacturers doing that? The mining, the processing of lithium metal, the battery producing is INSANE amount of resources, and they just using for vaping once! Is drive me nuts!
these cells is of high quality also as vape need allot of current these battery are rated 10c+ for its size is quite impressive a single 300mah cell is capable of qc fast charge
These things need to be banned. We are out here making single use plastics a criminal offence, and passing no laws making it illegal to develop new ways to waste single use electronics
I run a vape shop and I absolutely will not sell disposable vapes. Not only are they one of the worst single-use plastic devices from an environmental standpoint, but also, salt is 60 times more addictive than freebase nicotine is making it insanely difficult to quit, and there's studies that have found salt nic to be a contributing factor in things like Alzheimer’s or dementia and might even lead to certain kinds of cancers after repeated, long term exposure to it. It's really, really bad for you. I'm not out there saying vaping is 100% safe for everyone in any way. It's about HARM REDUCTION. Salt nic is increasing the likelihood of doing severe harm to yourself. Please don't use salt nic.
You really shouldnt touch the parts with your bare hands. I have been working with these and the smell is insanely strong and nicotine can be absorbed into the skin. Make sure to use PPE when working with things such as this. The nicotine bleeds. I am honestly surprised these arent banned due to the health risk after disposed.
I get these batteries from all the people who vape at work, I solder on a charging module and add a USB torch and honestly it's so handy having dozens of small torches that you can just fill a job site up with
I mean, it's insany the fact that those things can be sell? Guys think about it: a fucking SINGLE use vape that contains a bloodhell usable battery that will be toss away... wtf???
Wouldn't be cheaper for the manufacturers of single used vapes to use unreachable batteries instead? I don't understand why they don't use them, it could make their vape much cheaper or make them more money if they charge the same price as those of lithium batteries.
I think rechargeable batteries are more mass manufactured than non-rechargeable and thus cheaper. The company that made these just went for the cheaper option without a care about what this will do the environment.
I've collected lots of cells from this things.I never leave one if i see it on the streets,just use pliers to remove the tip that gets sucked.Also my sister vapes and collects them for me so lots of free 1000 mha cells for projects 😂
My friend owns a vape shop and sells tons of these. Getting a 3D printer for his shop and making these with the dead batteries would be really cool. Maybe sell the chargers at a discount if you bring in your dead vape.
Or get a discount on your next vape by bringing in the old one. Even if he don't make chargers keep those flammable batteries out of landfills. I'm also surprised manufacturers don't have buy backs.
the stupid part is they make much much larger vape devices that are disposable they dont have bigger batteries and are rechargable so you get every ml of the juice back out them and last about 5 days as opposed to 1 day unfortunatly those ones are banned in a few countries
Only rechargable battery technologies should be recharged. Technologies like alkaline batteries are not rechargable and should not be done or even attempted.
iPhone 12 mini: 2200 mAh This battery: 550 - 600 mAh 600 is 27% of 2200. Remove 10% for 3 - 5v boosting and unknown charging inefficiencies and it’s still 17%. It will and does charge my phone between 15 - 20%
@@BuildItnow i agree with you its electronics how to diy but i was making the point even if it was because of the vape that contents allowed anyway hell big clive does this sorta content all the time
New Better Version here: ruclips.net/user/shortsPeMTwscxTJU
here are the 3D models if you want to make your own: www.thingiverse.com/thing:6116752
I think it's pretty funny you have like five lying around 😂
Also how this came up in my feed 👀💀
Nice up-cycle though
None of these are mine, all from friends and family
@@BuildItnow Ahh, i'ght 👍
Suppose they like the brand 😅
I like the conversation, still looking into electronics like this, could be good for project ideas of we were allowed to work with the stuff
Just turn it into a flashlight. Running an LED doesn't need anywhere near as much power as charging a phone.
That's actually a really neat idea
I use those rechargable ones (no I don't vape) and bypass the air sensor and use them for projects
Can you share one of your project code pls, I have some laying around and I don't know how to use it
@@Nayel-Khouatra by project mean to power motors and other small things or for my latest electrolysis which is less complicated than it sounds
Edit: sorry can’t do video some important stuff has come up and will take a while
@@liamdj6535 that would be cool thanks
@@Nayel-Khouatra first thing to do is buy TP4056 modules and change Rprog resistor
Wdym by air sensor? You mean the microphone thing? Can u tell me more about it?
stack them in parallel
Next video
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Those are usually 550mwh Batteries meaning you would need about 14 of them to fully charge some modern phones but its still better than them ending up in a dumpster
It's mAh. And what phone has a 7,700mAh battery lol. Most of them are around 4000
In all fairness some very new phones have 7000mAh batteries, but I think the average phone battery size is somewhere between 2500 - 3500mAh
@@MrJake-bb8bsmy phone has 5000mah so i would need about 10 of these, considering efficiency
I've done an extensive amount of testing with these cylindrical pouch cells out of vapes. Anywhere from 600mAh to 1450mAh. I used 14 of the 1450mAh ones to build a 7S2P pack and attached a couple different boards including a 65W PD/PPS buck module which I connected to a Macbook and was able to obtain the full 65W charge rate from it.
There are 0 datasheets publicly available for these cells as far as I know. I emailed EVE for some and never got a response back so not sure if they even share them with the public.
I would be very careful about using these. You have no idea what the max discharge rate is without the datasheet. I tested a handful of cells about 20 tests in total from 1A to 5A measuring temp and plotting voltage throughout discharge. The 1450's seemed like 2C continuous/3C burst max.
Thanks for the comment and the details! I've also done some testing as well as spoken to one of these companies and here's what I've put together.
I was lucky enough to find the 550mAh lithium cell that I often use datasheet, the datasheet for this specific cell indicates that it has a fairly stock standard lithium cell charge and discharge (no more than an amp, min 2.8 volts, max 4.2 and so on)
To be extra safe I've also run them through a lithium capacity tester a few times and its discharge profile remains consistent as well as its capacity (allowing for a 5% margin of error from the cheapish tester).
And finally, I hope spoken with a company that produces these and I've been told that these are standard lithium batteries that they get from Chinese factories, they go for lithium instead of Alkaline as it has a better shelf life (that sounded weird to be but I do not know a lot about battery chemistry). I'm told that they have to use high-quality lithium batteries as their products are used near a person's face, I'm also told that they don't use recycled batteries (in some of their products) as the battery becomes too dangerous to use near a persons face once it hits 1 - 5% degradation (which happens at 10 - 50 cycles).
Ultimately I'm quite comfortable using these batteries based on my own tests, I also use them in parallel at low current so its very little strain on each battery, but I completely agree with your concern and need for testing. I wish these single-use products didn't exist.
I will buy vape only for the battery😂😂😂
no no no no no no
I am with you 😂
Fun fact, your local shop will probably let you just take the used ones
Next question, How much are air pops, compared to new battery?
Who the hell not able to STOP the manufacturers doing that?
The mining, the processing of lithium metal, the battery producing is INSANE amount of resources, and they just using for vaping once!
Is drive me nuts!
I use 2 to 3 disposable vapes per week but my brother in law makes sure none of them are wasted he uses the batteries for his kids toys
these cells is of high quality also as vape need allot of current these battery are rated 10c+ for its size is quite impressive a single 300mah cell is capable of qc fast charge
Yeah they definitely are I have collected 25+ so far
These things need to be banned. We are out here making single use plastics a criminal offence, and passing no laws making it illegal to develop new ways to waste single use electronics
Im rather interested in knowing how Manu Chao is now the soundtrack of half of the shorts/tiktoks
I run a vape shop and I absolutely will not sell disposable vapes. Not only are they one of the worst single-use plastic devices from an environmental standpoint, but also, salt is 60 times more addictive than freebase nicotine is making it insanely difficult to quit, and there's studies that have found salt nic to be a contributing factor in things like Alzheimer’s or dementia and might even lead to certain kinds of cancers after repeated, long term exposure to it. It's really, really bad for you. I'm not out there saying vaping is 100% safe for everyone in any way. It's about HARM REDUCTION. Salt nic is increasing the likelihood of doing severe harm to yourself. Please don't use salt nic.
I collected like 500 of those from friends and off the ground and made myself a pretty good battery out of it
You really shouldnt touch the parts with your bare hands. I have been working with these and the smell is insanely strong and nicotine can be absorbed into the skin. Make sure to use PPE when working with things such as this. The nicotine bleeds. I am honestly surprised these arent banned due to the health risk after disposed.
Love this. Great way to stop all the waste these crappy disposables create!
500mah isnt much but if you can get some batteries over time it could be great recycling
Oh, these are probably really good for running cosplay LEDs too
The best use for a vape
I get these batteries from all the people who vape at work, I solder on a charging module and add a USB torch and honestly it's so handy having dozens of small torches that you can just fill a job site up with
I have about 200 of these disposable vapes still around and im hoping to make a multi cell powerbank out of them in the near future.
Make an entire power grid and sell power back to your power conpany for profit
I love how some people think that he vapes
My dude we recharge this airpops at school and smoke them till the flavor is gone.
That’s depressing Lmao
Solar lights you have in your yard run 18650 batteries I think
But could you use 2 or more of them parallel for a longer charging power?
Yes you can
I always see these lying on the streets.
Serious question: can I just hook the batterys up in parallel and charge multiple batterys with one module?
I mean, it's insany the fact that those things can be sell? Guys think about it: a fucking SINGLE use vape that contains a bloodhell usable battery that will be toss away... wtf???
You are a very smart man with handsome hands
THIS IS NOT MY ALT ACCOUNT I SWEAR
Wouldn't be cheaper for the manufacturers of single used vapes to use unreachable batteries instead? I don't understand why they don't use them, it could make their vape much cheaper or make them more money if they charge the same price as those of lithium batteries.
I think rechargeable batteries are more mass manufactured than non-rechargeable and thus cheaper. The company that made these just went for the cheaper option without a care about what this will do the environment.
Buy single use vape from now on and save as much batteries until you can make a powerwall for solar 😂
Solution for all these problems breathe air
They do recycle them in most vape shops in the uk
I've collected lots of cells from this things.I never leave one if i see it on the streets,just use pliers to remove the tip that gets sucked.Also my sister vapes and collects them for me so lots of free 1000 mha cells for projects 😂
Make one into a rechargeable torch.
My friend owns a vape shop and sells tons of these. Getting a 3D printer for his shop and making these with the dead batteries would be really cool.
Maybe sell the chargers at a discount if you bring in your dead vape.
Or get a discount on your next vape by bringing in the old one. Even if he don't make chargers keep those flammable batteries out of landfills. I'm also surprised manufacturers don't have buy backs.
The only time a vape should be used.
It should be illegal to make something that has a rechargeable battery single use
What charging circuit is that ? Ive got tp4056 on the way meaning i still need a usb output
Wher I live you find them everywhere, If I would have seen this earlier I could have made a business
Found one, savage its batter and use it as replacement battery for my old android smartwatch..
Yet everyone complains about electric car batteries
i sent this video to my friend, he's gonna be the owner of biggest power bank company in the world
Investing
Do you have a publicly available 3D model somewhere? I'd like to try out the project 🙏
nice one! :)
where do you got your electronics from? or what is this board exactly??
U can parallel 3-4 such battery
I already have!
Wire like 4 batteries in parallel and make a biger case. Just make sure the capacity are the same.
ruclips.net/user/shortsPeMTwscxTJU?feature=share
Uhm you forgot that you need to then also balance the cells. Which this circuit board cannot do I think.
Can you put more than 1 battery to make a bigger capacity pawerbank?
yes: ruclips.net/user/shortsPeMTwscxTJU
Why are rechargeable batteries are being used in one-time vapes in the first place?
Becomes profits come before anything else
Hi. Gibt es für die verbesserte Version auch eine STL zum Download?
The only correct way to use a vape
the stupid part is they make much much larger vape devices that are disposable they dont have bigger batteries and are rechargable so you get every ml of the juice back out them and last about 5 days as opposed to 1 day
unfortunatly those ones are banned in a few countries
I have found 3 of those so far, each one had a 1500mAh battery.
bro, u told that vape sucks, all vapes suck
I think those are being banned in the uk luckily
I hope they get banned here too
I dont know how single use vapes are legal.
I did not know this. I would actually try to use this in a project.
Great!
How many of these do you have so far?
Collected 16 so far, many more on the way
@@BuildItnow Try 45 on for size ;)
Capes suck in general
the best way to solve the problems? don't buy vapes
I don’t buy vapes :p
Did you say 5v from the 3.7 provided does the board you use have a buck converter in it
The board has a boost converter in it that boosts the batteries 3.6 volts to 5 volts
Fot the love that all that is holy, don't put the soldering iron near the battery
No
Good use of recycling.
Are all batteries rechargeable? (be it not as fast as the ones marketed as rechargeable?)
Only rechargable battery technologies should be recharged. Technologies like alkaline batteries are not rechargable and should not be done or even attempted.
Single use vape with rechargeable battery? Just why?.
Don't 👏 Vape👏Kids👏
Only micro usb to load the battery? Or can used usb c to loading the battery ?
That depends on the circuit board and its port, in this case they used one with a micro USB port, but there are also boards with USB C
How are those even allowed nowadays???
They should be banned
good business
You need a bms
I use bms
Nah no way that battery’s gonn give u 20% of charge let alone 10%.
iPhone 12 mini: 2200 mAh
This battery: 550 - 600 mAh
600 is 27% of 2200. Remove 10% for 3 - 5v boosting and unknown charging inefficiencies and it’s still 17%. It will and does charge my phone between 15 - 20%
sooo do i buy vapes for batteries? or do i get friends to pass me vapes for batteries
Definitely don’t buy vapes for the batteries
@@BuildItnow damn how do I get to know vapers
@@glowytheglowbug Follow the smoke signals
@@BuildItnow ah good idea! irl supply drops LOL
So you will just smoke gas whitout taste???
You do realise that is not how it works
Brother I just make power banks
@@BuildItnow oh
Well it would be a good idea if it wasnt for a vape
Breath Air 🐐
He doesn't vape
@@CharlieAmezquita-fc4vx he promoting vapes though
@@StarBaller294 he isn't? He just gets vapes from people donating them
Ive been using Li-Ion Batteries for over a decade to power more shit than you can imagine.
bro stop vaping
He Doesn't vape
Why do you vape, no why, I hate being that guy but I wanna understand
I dont vape
@@BuildItnow ok, problem not solved, my curiosity is unsatisfied
dont vape bro its not worth it
I dont
then where do u get those empty vapes?
@@user-kv7zo8dg6y from people who vape
@@BuildItnow oh ok sry for the misunderstanding
I used your model
Do you vape
He Doesn't vape, they were donated to him
😂
Good video!
Breath air
He Doesn't vape
IS THIS ALLOWED ON RUclips!?!?!?
why wouldnt it be what rule do you think hes breaking?
vape content is alowed there many vape channels
electronics videos are verry much allowed also
It’s not even vape content lol
@@BuildItnow i agree with you its electronics how to diy
but i was making the point even if it was because of the vape that contents allowed anyway
hell big clive does this sorta content all the time
@@Sarge92 its not allowed so big clive will never say that word or hell get detected look closely
this is cool
Thank you!