hello gamers, horceror here - thanks to puffalope for having me on, genuinely a wonderful experience, very fun dude to talk with and riff off of for these games. we forgot to talk about WHY we ran the build in game 3 - It's my Horceror ™ build, and here's why :) Addons: ~ T-Virus Sample This addon doubles the amount of contamination points you get from whipping zombies from 1 -> 2 ~ Serotonin Injector This addon makes you undetectable for 15 seconds after a zombie dies by any means. Usually, when running these addons, you're near constantly whipping zombies while out of chase to sneak around the map better (albeit, nemesis DOES have a pretty big Boot Radius, it's still much smaller than his 32m terror radius - you save a LOT of time from survivors not pre-running unless they see you.) Perks: ~ Lethal Pursuer This perk is nice for starting games off strong, knowing if survivors have distortion, and also extending the Floods of Rage/ Grim Embrace 4th stack duration. ~ Scourge Hook: Pain Resonance Essentially Passive slowdown - I really don't like finding and kicking gens, I prefer the chase part of DbD, so this just lets me play the game longer. ~ Scourge Hook: Floods of Rage Scourge Hooks stack on the same hook - so on top of passive slowdown with Pain Resonance, I'm able to see survivor auras through windows mid chase - this lets met get a lot of hits through loops that aren't expected by the average survivor, AS WELL as being able to find sneaky survivors that are hiding or on the other side of the map. ~ Grim Embrace Another passive slowdown perk. I don't really enjoy tunneling all too much unless someone really goes out of their way to be annoying, so getting rewarded for playing more 'fairly' is a pretty good design for me.
@@uvisblumbergs8911 It's a choice thing, I just like floods because it synergizes with *my* playstyle (plus I really don't like kicking generators) - I'd say each one has their own merits, you definitely won't be getting NTH value mid chase, though, while floods CAN get you hits through windows that you'd usually need a lot of luck to go for. But NTH you can proc when you want to find hiding survivors by just kicking a gen. I've definitely missed some survivors by not having it equipped, that's for sure.
unironically, the hackusations on nemesis are really common because a lot of survivors just... don't know about the whip drag? I wish the hurtbox was more visible when it's being dragged, but we've gotta get a few more bugfixes before we get there 😔
So fun fact about that freshly infected survivor thing. An extremely niche counterplay to Nemesis on his release was to have all 4 survivors infect themselves with zombies so that Nemesis would spend significantly more time getting out of T1. imo part of this is the reason why you even get mutation points on infected survivors now anyway.
yeah, it was because nemesis wouldn't get contamination points whipping survivors really early on - he was forced to whip zombies to tier up, and being stuck in tier 1 was AWFUL. He also had a bug where if you ran tyrant gore and you killed a zombie they just... never respawned again.
This entire series is just a massive W. such a good idea and i love going and watching the people who main the characters i play that i wouldve never known of. Love the series Puff! Thank you
The best part about playing a killer is when survivors think you are cheating. You could be playing entirely within the rules but they still can not pull off a win. That shows you are exceptionally skilled and its reached a point that most survivors can not imagine you as being anything but a cheater because there is not logical strategy they can think of to beat you so they need to resort to calling the mods against you because they are too weak to beat you.
Puff I honestly took a huge break from DBD because of the state of the game back then i honestly started playing again because I started watching your videos and genuinely enjoying them lol
My best Nemesis game was on The Game. I purposely took a prolonged chase with a survivor because he was feeding me all of the pallets. By the time the first two gens popped there were almost no pallets left and it was a massacre.
I'd love to have the guests giving more explanations about the killers because, we are also learning from the best. And sometimes I don't even know how the powers or mechanics work.
@@horcerordbd awesome! I'll check that out. You were great BTW very entertaining. The comment was in general and I wish all guests had a video like yours dedicated to the killer 💜
What they meant in the video is that Nemesis tentacle can collide with terrain and still be drag and hit survivors. Xenomorph can't, if it hits a terrain before the survivor it will full stop right there, in the open yeah, both can be drag just about the same.
15:04 STBFL is also bugged on Slinger. Just hitting the obsession with the spear makes you lose 2 stacks, but the chain breaking doesn't. Starting to think that BHVR straight up destroyed STBFL for no reason lmao.
I'm pretty sure it's a bug, even on Nemesis (as much as it pains me) but I'm... kind of not minding? I feel like the average Nemesis player has gotten better as a result of it. Slinger for sure it's bs though and shouldn't be that way.
Did they change the adept achievement to be based on kills again? If so when? I remember killer adepts being based on you getting irridecant emblems in all 4 categories before.
I love that Eruption still straight up lies to you about the aura reading, it just.. doesn't do that. EDIT: WHAT, HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET IT TO PROC. IT NEVER PROCS FOR ME WAAAAAAAAAAAAH
@@horcerordbd You'd expect it to be that, but I've had plenty of times where eruption kicks in gives the notif i turn to look and just.. no aura :( Even without distortion, yes (but at the very least it does burn two distortion stacks with lethal I think?)
@@glassyloss4715They could be hiding behind the generator, as you can't really see auras through them? I wish lethal would add another stack burn, but no. It just adds another two seconds to the aura read.
10:58 - Can someone explain to me why people say things like this? "I didn't expect Lithe from an Ace"... what does character choice have to do with Perk choice? :s
as the person who said it - sure! I want to preface this by saying that obviously this isn't true for everybody, but competitively, Ace is the best survivor to play as he's the quietest while injured. So you start making the association with people playing Ace = really experienced players, and most really experienced players run Dead Hard as their exhaustion perk of choice. That, or Balanced Landing (sometimes both) as they're exhaustion perks that can work together that you don't need resources (windows or a pallet) for.
for me nemesis doesn"t feel like nemesis instead he reminds me of the guy from circus that is in the cage with lions, tigers, etc...) i would rather have something like wesker has that he can grab survivors and throw them
Oh, for sure, Nemesis (DbD) and Nemesis (Resident Evil) have diverged paths in being the same character. Don't get me wrong, I love both iterations but they definitely aren't the same guy, really. Zozosdarkroom did a pretty good video on Nemesis missing the mark as far as really playing into the fantasy of BEING the Pursuer, and their idea for how they would have designed Nemesis is really good - but it's too little, too late, at this point. He's already kind of cemented in his power, zombies, etc., and if you were to change the kit then players that play him (Like me 🥺) would lose interest in order to try to appeal to a broader player base. It's like what they did with trickster, and every person I know that mained trickster doesn't like them as much anymore.
hello gamers, horceror here -
thanks to puffalope for having me on, genuinely a wonderful experience, very fun dude to talk with and riff off of for these games.
we forgot to talk about WHY we ran the build in game 3 - It's my Horceror ™ build, and here's why :)
Addons:
~ T-Virus Sample
This addon doubles the amount of contamination points you get from whipping zombies from 1 -> 2
~ Serotonin Injector
This addon makes you undetectable for 15 seconds after a zombie dies by any means.
Usually, when running these addons, you're near constantly whipping zombies while out of chase to sneak around the map better (albeit, nemesis DOES have a pretty big Boot Radius, it's still much smaller than his 32m terror radius - you save a LOT of time from survivors not pre-running unless they see you.)
Perks:
~ Lethal Pursuer
This perk is nice for starting games off strong, knowing if survivors have distortion, and also extending the Floods of Rage/ Grim Embrace 4th stack duration.
~ Scourge Hook: Pain Resonance
Essentially Passive slowdown - I really don't like finding and kicking gens, I prefer the chase part of DbD, so this just lets me play the game longer.
~ Scourge Hook: Floods of Rage
Scourge Hooks stack on the same hook - so on top of passive slowdown with Pain Resonance, I'm able to see survivor auras through windows mid chase - this lets met get a lot of hits through loops that aren't expected by the average survivor, AS WELL as being able to find sneaky survivors that are hiding or on the other side of the map.
~ Grim Embrace
Another passive slowdown perk. I don't really enjoy tunneling all too much unless someone really goes out of their way to be annoying, so getting rewarded for playing more 'fairly' is a pretty good design for me.
do you think floods is better than nowhere to hide?
@@uvisblumbergs8911 It's a choice thing, I just like floods because it synergizes with *my* playstyle (plus I really don't like kicking generators) - I'd say each one has their own merits, you definitely won't be getting NTH value mid chase, though, while floods CAN get you hits through windows that you'd usually need a lot of luck to go for. But NTH you can proc when you want to find hiding survivors by just kicking a gen. I've definitely missed some survivors by not having it equipped, that's for sure.
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@@GreediestGreed bro ur name is THEEEeldenL0rd
@@horcerordbd thanks, im a new player so i find myself kicking gens a lot and get value from it often
Puff, you and Horcer bounced off each other really well. This might be my favorite learning from the best.
“I wanna finish it off with a drag” this guy WAS a nemesis main
23:41 this little rat thought you cheated ahah, best compliment in the game
unironically, the hackusations on nemesis are really common because a lot of survivors just... don't know about the whip drag? I wish the hurtbox was more visible when it's being dragged, but we've gotta get a few more bugfixes before we get there 😔
@@horcerordbd I was thinking of the locker like a aura hack accusation
@@minatonamikaze6400 mb gang
i dont have anything funny to say this time, so i'll just say puff is leading us into the next generation of creators, much love
So fun fact about that freshly infected survivor thing. An extremely niche counterplay to Nemesis on his release was to have all 4 survivors infect themselves with zombies so that Nemesis would spend significantly more time getting out of T1. imo part of this is the reason why you even get mutation points on infected survivors now anyway.
yeah, it was because nemesis wouldn't get contamination points whipping survivors really early on - he was forced to whip zombies to tier up, and being stuck in tier 1 was AWFUL.
He also had a bug where if you ran tyrant gore and you killed a zombie they just... never respawned again.
Probably my favorite video so far, you two did really well with the commentary!
This entire series is just a massive W. such a good idea and i love going and watching the people who main the characters i play that i wouldve never known of. Love the series Puff! Thank you
Neminem, the real slim Nemi
Love that the Steve called cheats when you locker snatched him haha.
Use code fortnite in the puffalope item shop
Hi im every single achievement, and i wanna complete puffalope😊🔥
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8:33 You can see Ace hiding in the corner.
I thought I was crazy
lmao i thought it was a prop at first
Love these vids. Not only is it fun to watch, but also because I'm a killer main, it's a great way to get better at killer.
NemesIs drink a lot of milk to be that tall
can confirm i drink a lot of milk
not the only nemesis content maker anymore btw, I prefer Mikhail's Eye + Wristband for stronger zombie pressure
The best part about playing a killer is when survivors think you are cheating. You could be playing entirely within the rules but they still can not pull off a win. That shows you are exceptionally skilled and its reached a point that most survivors can not imagine you as being anything but a cheater because there is not logical strategy they can think of to beat you so they need to resort to calling the mods against you because they are too weak to beat you.
I'm wondering why Steve though puff was cheating. He ran into puff and died for it.
that nemesis guide he made is really good
hey thanks :)
@@horcerordbd ur goated 💯
The zombies kissing killed me
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@@horcerordbd goat
NO WAY HORCERER LETS GOOOOOO
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The Nemesis
the mrheadacheomorph
Puff I honestly took a huge break from DBD because of the state of the game back then i honestly started playing again because I started watching your videos and genuinely enjoying them lol
23:41 look at the chat lolllll.
NICE CHEATS
I can’t wait for Puff to learn their is also a challenge for using each killers abilities so many times 👀
let’s goooo, my favorite killer to play
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LMAO the " NICE CHEAT" in the endgame chat bc of eruption aura reading. He wasn't even waiting to see if you had a perk that could've revealed him xD
That was the steve, not the vittorio. I don't know why he said that unless they are friends I guess.
The Yui was level 100 in the second game, you would have never been able to guess by how they looped. 23:35
@@MeistGamingChannel Prestige isn't really a good indicator of skill anyway.
My best Nemesis game was on The Game. I purposely took a prolonged chase with a survivor because he was feeding me all of the pallets. By the time the first two gens popped there were almost no pallets left and it was a massacre.
I'd love to have the guests giving more explanations about the killers because, we are also learning from the best. And sometimes I don't even know how the powers or mechanics work.
to shamelessly self promo in this comment section, I do have a full guide up on nemesis where I explain everything you might need to know
@@horcerordbd awesome! I'll check that out. You were great BTW very entertaining. The comment was in general and I wish all guests had a video like yours dedicated to the killer 💜
The tail on the xenomorph works as long as you hit the survivor with the tail so if you do a similar thing you do with nemesis it should hit
Tail and whip aren’t alike at all
@@Pam234 I’ve used both they are similar
What they meant in the video is that Nemesis tentacle can collide with terrain and still be drag and hit survivors.
Xenomorph can't, if it hits a terrain before the survivor it will full stop right there, in the open yeah, both can be drag just about the same.
@@rlizarragalopez4303 funnily enough, i mention this verbatim in my nemesis guide. theMrHeadache was a big help in getting me xeno footage!
LET'S GOOO, NEMMY TIME
NICE CHEATS is crazy
I have no idea why they gave up in the second game. It's just a normal DBD game?
Been waiting for this lol
2:27 thats me! Hi youtube
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15:04 STBFL is also bugged on Slinger. Just hitting the obsession with the spear makes you lose 2 stacks, but the chain breaking doesn't. Starting to think that BHVR straight up destroyed STBFL for no reason lmao.
I'm pretty sure it's a bug, even on Nemesis (as much as it pains me) but I'm... kind of not minding? I feel like the average Nemesis player has gotten better as a result of it.
Slinger for sure it's bs though and shouldn't be that way.
Ngl never heard of this guy but holy crap he’s good.
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"Hi, im Puffalope" 🗣🔥🔥🔥
23:42 "nice cheats"
Lmao, another survivor who doesn't know how aura reding works :')
I love this puffa bloke
What i love to do is zombie speed add ons and an indoor map
23:41 we not gonna talk about the "nice cheats" in the eg chat?
Yes,ets goooo!!
Hes so fun to play
Personally, I love doing Enduring/Spirit Fury Nemesis. You don't respect the pallet ever when you have Fury >:D
PUFFALOPE I CAN TEACH U DREDGE (if you haven’t learned him already)
I like to use corrupt intervention, and just try to infect not down everyone while the gens are blocked.
it's a really solid playstyle! next patch we won't even have to run it, hitting tier 2 off of two whips is gonna feel SO good🙏
Did they change the adept achievement to be based on kills again? If so when? I remember killer adepts being based on you getting irridecant emblems in all 4 categories before.
Omg the day I play nemesis for the first time
welcome to Umbrella!
Ace spotted 8:33 👁👁👁👁👁👁
where are the leaderboards ive been looking for em
HORCERER NO WAY
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epic horce nemi episode!!!!!
what's crackin' kr4kyn
@@horcerordbd omg u found me here as well!! LMAO
Whipped
(into shape)
Nemesis I feel has really low lows like you feel it but super high highs
I love that Eruption still straight up lies to you about the aura reading, it just.. doesn't do that.
EDIT: WHAT, HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET IT TO PROC. IT NEVER PROCS FOR ME WAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Kid named distortion:
@@horcerordbd You'd expect it to be that, but I've had plenty of times where eruption kicks in gives the notif i turn to look and just.. no aura :(
Even without distortion, yes (but at the very least it does burn two distortion stacks with lethal I think?)
@@glassyloss4715They could be hiding behind the generator, as you can't really see auras through them? I wish lethal would add another stack burn, but no. It just adds another two seconds to the aura read.
10:58 - Can someone explain to me why people say things like this?
"I didn't expect Lithe from an Ace"... what does character choice have to do with Perk choice? :s
as the person who said it - sure! I want to preface this by saying that obviously this isn't true for everybody, but competitively, Ace is the best survivor to play as he's the quietest while injured. So you start making the association with people playing Ace = really experienced players, and most really experienced players run Dead Hard as their exhaustion perk of choice. That, or Balanced Landing (sometimes both) as they're exhaustion perks that can work together that you don't need resources (windows or a pallet) for.
@@horcerordbd I didn't know that about Ace being quiet! Thanks for breaking that down and great episode with Puff :)
Who would you even dab up for knight?
probably zmpixie, most prolific knight player + streamer I know
@@horcerordbd oh gotcha
who is going to tell him that STBFL is not bugged it just works like that now
Why is my whip so small?
Skill issue
Wtf was that intro convo lol
It should've been me (I got the game 2 days ago and averaged 4 out of 48 hatchets as huntress)
the video names are getting more and more out of control as the series goes on
waiting MonsterKill like hatiko
Knight next please
We simp for our goth babe. No shame ❤️😈
When are you going to do the pig adept with Saww_Dude
Lilith Omen please ❤❤❤
Glad I stayed awake all night for this. Jk
Please do a xenomorph learning from the best
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Game 2 adept not deserved u tunneled him for no reason
@OreNoNawaErenJager
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Drake???
for me nemesis doesn"t feel like nemesis instead he reminds me of the guy from circus that is in the cage with lions, tigers, etc...) i would rather have something like wesker has that he can grab survivors and throw them
Oh, for sure, Nemesis (DbD) and Nemesis (Resident Evil) have diverged paths in being the same character. Don't get me wrong, I love both iterations but they definitely aren't the same guy, really. Zozosdarkroom did a pretty good video on Nemesis missing the mark as far as really playing into the fantasy of BEING the Pursuer, and their idea for how they would have designed Nemesis is really good - but it's too little, too late, at this point. He's already kind of cemented in his power, zombies, etc., and if you were to change the kit then players that play him (Like me 🥺) would lose interest in order to try to appeal to a broader player base. It's like what they did with trickster, and every person I know that mained trickster doesn't like them as much anymore.
Do blight lil bro
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Nice cheat kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
pls made xeno
Omg it’s been over a month of asking for legion adept just do it(this is only day 20 of asking for legion adept but I didn’t comment every day)
Whip dragging is one of the dumbest things in the game.
The people still want learning from the worst Puff
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My swf clapped this guy he only got 2 with tunneling 😂
🤷♂ everyone has good games and bad games, gg man
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It should've been gameboyben
Ngl never heard of this guy but holy crap he’s good.
hey thanks :)
The people still want learning from the worst Puff
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