I'm a resto druid swapping to guardian for S2 and your videos have been the most helpful by a landslide. Thank you so much for putting the time and effort into making these!
I'm so, so close to pulling the trigger for Guardian for S2. Narrowed it down to Prot Pally vs Guardian after maining Pally all S1 and having Guardian as an alt. Think Guardian comes out better off after the health changes and still frothing over that tier set
New tank & new bear player. Have mained a warlock for years finally decided to branch out and your videos have actually been the most helpful. So keep it up. Earned yourself a new sub.
I dont understand people saying guardian is week defensively and lacks magic mitigation and etc. I mean it was the same or arguably worse in early shadowlands but it had absolutely no problem and it was a meta tank. I think people who think guardian is bad neet too learn how to play. I personally take all of the armor and physical damage reduction talents so i only have to heal magic damage taken and it works very well for me. I have about 90% damage reduction just from my armor during incarn and im pretty much immune to physical damage. Also i can pulverize tank busters on 45 sec cd and barkskin on ~30 sec + i have big wall on 2 min + 25% dr with rage of sleeper on a 1 min cd Also it has a bunch of passives like 10% dr with moonfire, 6% with thrash, 15% with raze procs, a lotta heals from moonfire, ursocs fury, regrowth procs and frenzy regen and it has such a low cd.
Because there is a clear difference between SL and DF bear hence why it became meta. During Incarn in SL you were literally unkillable with the ursoc fury legendary. It led to a pattern of 1 monster pull every 3 mins followed by multiple single pack or smaller pulls until Incarn was up again. While I mained Prot Pally all DF so far, my main alt is still Guardian and I definitely don't think it's bad by any means. I still have a lot of utility and tools to deal with incoming damage and my damage output is damn high for only being 405 ilvl. It absolutely smokes my 402 Blood DK in terms of damage and I find it far far easier to survive majority of big pulls with compared to the DK. That said, I understand why it feels worse to some players as you have definitely lost your 30s godmode button, at least by comparison to what it was in SL. And the other aspect of it is I don't really feel like I gained a whole lot to compensate for that. I honestly just think guardian needs the paladin treatment, where my Prot Pally literally never runs out of defensives. Between: Wings which gives me 30% max hp and 30% DR on a 2min cd (gets reduced lower than this) Passive Spellblocking Eye of Tyr - 25% DR for 9 sec on a 45s CD Ardent Defender - 20% DR for 8s on a 1m30 CD Guardian - 50% DR on a 5min CD A Talent that procs a free 50% DR every 45s whenever I drop below 30% hp Bubble - which gives me a full 8s immunity on a 3.5min cd and now talented to taunt all mobs. Would love to see Guardian be given some more defensives to match up to the above. Even just another one would probably be enough. Pulverize definitely can help but the more meta arcane tree just seems to be too good to warrant going that way this tier. Obviously next tier with the more physical build it gets way easier to pick up.
This video makes me wanna try tanking. The fact that you dont run meta and play the build you wanna to have fun makes me wanna play too. Ive only tanked on demonhunter looong time ago and it was very fun. Wow players have the tendendsy to get so mad if you mess up tho, so I never dared to play any tank nowdays. But I might give it a go. Plus I get to run around as a big bear 😄
hello what addons are you using with the timer on your ironfur being right beside the ability? I could really use that to help with timing on certain abilities to get dps up and also be tanky lol
What stat % are you running in your keys? Ive wondered if I took too much vers. I got a build that puts me at 25% and trinket/rings that can push me to 33% at the 411 iLevel.
Dbm or big wigs/little wigs are both pretty good at telling you when you really need them. But a lot of that just comes to down dungeon knowledge.. "Oh that really really hurt me last time, better have barkskin or siv instincts for that"
Can't wait until the 10.1 changes for bear. I HATE galactic guardian with a passion and want my sweet physical talent build to be meta. I'm not an Owl 👿
So that's it? 3 buttons? The rotation is a whole 3 buttons with at most 5 occasionally? I don't know how to feel about that, and about the fact I play a class that has about 6-10 buttons to press. 😅😂
I'm a resto druid swapping to guardian for S2 and your videos have been the most helpful by a landslide. Thank you so much for putting the time and effort into making these!
Not gonna lie... the vids that came out the last few months.... really good my man... keep going
every time i get a dumb bear tank in a levelling dungeon im linking this
I hope it wasnt me lol. Don’t worry im watching it.
@@mapograph the one i was thinking of was all the way back in bfa when i levelled my og shaman
I'm so, so close to pulling the trigger for Guardian for S2. Narrowed it down to Prot Pally vs Guardian after maining Pally all S1 and having Guardian as an alt. Think Guardian comes out better off after the health changes and still frothing over that tier set
New tank & new bear player. Have mained a warlock for years finally decided to branch out and your videos have actually been the most helpful.
So keep it up. Earned yourself a new sub.
Much needed video. Cheers!
MY DUDE..... Vids are fucking amazing my guy! keep up the good work!
I dont understand people saying guardian is week defensively and lacks magic mitigation and etc. I mean it was the same or arguably worse in early shadowlands but it had absolutely no problem and it was a meta tank. I think people who think guardian is bad neet too learn how to play.
I personally take all of the armor and physical damage reduction talents so i only have to heal magic damage taken and it works very well for me. I have about 90% damage reduction just from my armor during incarn and im pretty much immune to physical damage.
Also i can pulverize tank busters on 45 sec cd and barkskin on ~30 sec + i have big wall on 2 min + 25% dr with rage of sleeper on a 1 min cd
Also it has a bunch of passives like 10% dr with moonfire, 6% with thrash, 15% with raze procs, a lotta heals from moonfire, ursocs fury, regrowth procs and frenzy regen and it has such a low cd.
Because there is a clear difference between SL and DF bear hence why it became meta. During Incarn in SL you were literally unkillable with the ursoc fury legendary. It led to a pattern of 1 monster pull every 3 mins followed by multiple single pack or smaller pulls until Incarn was up again.
While I mained Prot Pally all DF so far, my main alt is still Guardian and I definitely don't think it's bad by any means. I still have a lot of utility and tools to deal with incoming damage and my damage output is damn high for only being 405 ilvl. It absolutely smokes my 402 Blood DK in terms of damage and I find it far far easier to survive majority of big pulls with compared to the DK.
That said, I understand why it feels worse to some players as you have definitely lost your 30s godmode button, at least by comparison to what it was in SL. And the other aspect of it is I don't really feel like I gained a whole lot to compensate for that. I honestly just think guardian needs the paladin treatment, where my Prot Pally literally never runs out of defensives.
Between:
Wings which gives me 30% max hp and 30% DR on a 2min cd (gets reduced lower than this)
Passive Spellblocking
Eye of Tyr - 25% DR for 9 sec on a 45s CD
Ardent Defender - 20% DR for 8s on a 1m30 CD
Guardian - 50% DR on a 5min CD
A Talent that procs a free 50% DR every 45s whenever I drop below 30% hp
Bubble - which gives me a full 8s immunity on a 3.5min cd and now talented to taunt all mobs.
Would love to see Guardian be given some more defensives to match up to the above. Even just another one would probably be enough. Pulverize definitely can help but the more meta arcane tree just seems to be too good to warrant going that way this tier. Obviously next tier with the more physical build it gets way easier to pick up.
I m glad u r King Diamond fan 🤘
Ty dude 🫵👍🫶
Thanks bro ❤
This video makes me wanna try tanking. The fact that you dont run meta and play the build you wanna to have fun makes me wanna play too. Ive only tanked on demonhunter looong time ago and it was very fun. Wow players have the tendendsy to get so mad if you mess up tho, so I never dared to play any tank nowdays. But I might give it a go.
Plus I get to run around as a big bear 😄
I love playing with Raze though :)
hello what addons are you using with the timer on your ironfur being right beside the ability? I could really use that to help with timing on certain abilities to get dps up and also be tanky lol
Looks like a WeakAura tracking Ironfur buff duration, a lot of Druid WeakAura packs have one built in
What stat % are you running in your keys?
Ive wondered if I took too much vers. I got a build that puts me at 25% and trinket/rings that can push me to 33% at the 411 iLevel.
it's literally on the screen?
How come people don't take the Reinforced Fur and Layered Mane talents? Is it considered a DPS loss for minimal defensive gain?
Armor from caps out incredibly easy with Ironfur, while the extra proc chance is nice while out of incarn, in Incarn you'll mostly be capped out
I'm completely new to tanking! I got the rotation down just need tips on when to pop my defensive abilities! Any help is greatly appreciated
Dbm or big wigs/little wigs are both pretty good at telling you when you really need them. But a lot of that just comes to down dungeon knowledge.. "Oh that really really hurt me last time, better have barkskin or siv instincts for that"
Can't wait until the 10.1 changes for bear. I HATE galactic guardian with a passion and want my sweet physical talent build to be meta.
I'm not an Owl 👿
So that's it?
3 buttons?
The rotation is a whole 3 buttons with at most 5 occasionally?
I don't know how to feel about that, and about the fact I play a class that has about 6-10 buttons to press. 😅😂