You have to be fair even against people you disagree with. Shamsi does repeatedly ask “who is your son”and show me”’. The other bloke was aggressive from the onset. The guy ignores this and even asks Shamsi to “come around the corner”. The other brothers asked him to explain the incident with his son. Shamsi loses his cool, but I wouldn’t expect him to be angel in that situation.
That is fine. Anyone can lose his cool. The reason SP-FILES has highlighted this is because Shamsi himself has made multiple videos against other muslim brothers who did the same or less and he was backbiting their behavior. He needs to stop being a hypocrite.
But he then started saying “i don’t care, I don’t care” while waving the brother away. If he meant what he said, he would tell all his minions to back away and talk privately with him instead of letting a crowd gather.
Madkhalis will be destroyed when Mahdi AS will come. They will be with the armies and 'rulers' that oppose the true Caliph. In the past, they were part of Yazid's army against Hussain RA.
This an overreaction from everyone lol. The comments weren’t even that bad tbh, just saying the Shiah were ignorant of their own religion etc, the dad overreacted then Shamsi also overreacted. What a mess speakers corner is Edit: beating himself up comment was distasteful
Shamsi definitely should have shown restraint, he knows he's in Speaker's Corner, but I understand why it escalated. The father should have asked the channel to remove the video in hindsight, the comments aren't horrendous and this is how we usually react to the Shi'a. But it has made me reflect upon how detached I feel from the people in the video and that sometimes they do look through the comments and get hurt and pushed further away. May Allah guide us all
Yes the true Muslims are the less than 10% that come from Iran 😂 Ayotollah cult, cutting themselves like magicians and cursing the ones that Allah SWT has honoured in the Quran. The Quran which they can hardly recite.
These brothers should do below... 1. Stay away from dawah scene 2. Learn classical Arabic 3. Learn deen without prejudice against any denomination of Muslims
Let’s be honest, his 14yr old son shouldn’t be debating grown men in a park known for video recording debates. Also, why did he wait 2 years, why not ask him to take down the video early on. And Shamsi isn’t responsible for what kids in school say, or the comments. As a parent, this brother should’ve done better to keep his “young son” away from the spotlight. And could’ve asked Shamsi in a calm way instead of physically threatening him. He left it too late for this depression to develop in his son. But, Shamsi also was wrong by saying “I don’t care, I don’t care” after he didn’t see the proof immediately, lack of social intelligence on his behalf. He made the situation escalate.
maybe one day some evangelical chritians will interview your children on youtube and dig out some really obsecure stuff about Quran becoming a pale man (holy ghost). or that Ruh was sent from us (Allah) to Isa (and claiming divinity in Isa) or some other stuff from evangelicals and then put your son on blast on their channels and making him look like a fool and blind follower. My knowledge of Islam at age 14 was non-existent. I just followed whjat I was told to believe. Going by your own words. You obvuiously wont blame evangelicals at all. You'll blame yourself. Let all your cousins and family see that your kids are clueless about Islam when an evangelical makes out to your kids that there is trininity in Islam. before you cast any judgement, turn the tables around ask yourself if you're OK with it being the other way round.
@@armsie100debating? When someone hits puberty he is now being held accountable for his actions and if he is misguided Allah will ask him about that. Therefore at 14 you can speak and teach where is the proof it was a debate? Maybe it was just Shamsi speaking to him nicely and explaining to him that is all
Don't look up to online personalities, ya ikhwa. All the serious 'Ulemah of Islam try to stay out of the public eye as much as possible because fame is known to harm the nafs, tremendously. This is a clear example. Look at how furious the brother is over his own self, his fragile ego, his own public image, his fear of being seen as "weak" in front of people...he can't even breathe, subhaanAllah. I wish this guy, and the Madkhali brothers in general were this passionate and emotionally invested in how divided the Muslims are, over the suffering of our Muslim brothers and sisters in war-torn places such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Kashmir, Uyghur China etc. Rather they are the first to join the media campaigns against Muslims everywhere, calling them names like Khawaarij, Deobandi, Ikhwaani, Mumayyi, etc. but hypocritically standing with the enemies of Islam, the Ilmaani (secular) stooges, neo-colonizers, who are ruining our societies from the top down with their outright corruption, robbing of the wealth, murder, backdoor dealings with the enemy and hatred of their own people. Everywhere I found the Madkhalis they are people who look like us, speak our language, and seem like friends, but rather are used by the enemy, creating division in the ranks, busying themselves with dunya, neglecting spirituality, promoting their pathetic under-qualified teachers who can't even read, questioning others on "what they think of so-and-so scholar/da3ee" and getting into petty, small minded nonsense. Ya ikhwa stay away from these Madkhalis, these SPUBS these DUS dawah people, all this will corrupt your deen. Wallahi you can take this exact same Sunnah, this path that the pious precedesors were upon, this beautiful perfect knowledge from Allah, from your local masjid or from so many other programs online. Most of what they are warning you against and busying you with causes more harm then good, wallahi. If honey is mixed with poison, just find better quality honey insha-Allah.
@@electronicjihad nothing he said was emotional. Calling for the ummah to unite under a caliph is every Muslims responsibility. It is ordered by Allah SWT and the Prophet PBUH - do not be divided. It’s because of garbage like you that we are in this state today.
@@xander583 common sense, they are 14 year old. There is no khair on interrogating a 14 year old for views on social media. If you wanted to do it fisabilillah, then at least blur out their face. I saw the video. A romanian begger woman came, pretending to be muslim asking for alms. Shamsi completely ignored her. Why not do khair and interrogate her - ask her about Islam, interrogate her why she's pretending to be Muslim to get money from people. The begger scammer literally interrupted the inquisition on the shia boys. They're just boys, they dont know any better. Let them be. The is not the first and wont be the last time shamsi messed up. He has beef with ali dawah and mohammed hijab. He almost got into a fight with a afro carribean guy by saying he's mad for beleiving in trinity, without explaining or giving reason. He just decided to make fun of him. If shamsi didn't have all his entourage with him. The afro caribbean guy would have smacked him for that. He was vexxed. Daee should not be causing confrontation like this. They actually put off as many people off Islam as they draw in. The see this shia sunni kerfuffle and they think and you want me to be in this mess? No thanks.
That guy swearing is definitely a Shia, he was swearing at Shamsi years ago calling him a bumba clart when Shamsi was preaching with his teacher on a stool asking the Shias where it says to follow Ahlul Bayt
@@sp-files82 Yeah, I saw it too. He was in the crowd with Shias, and was cursing Shamsi. Shamsi was standing on a stool in blue clothes, talking to the crowd when the masked Shia and this guy started arguing with him. Shamsi dealt with him correctly here, even though I don't agree with Shamsi on how he deals with other muslims (calling everyone that differs with him a khawarij or innovator) and his absolute bootlicking obedience to monarchs. The issue with this fight was simply that Shamsi mocks other da'ees for the same thing he has done here, which is hypocritical, that is all.
Don't believe anything coming from Munafiq Shamsi and his supporters they are no different from those deceiving Christians who make claims but never provide evidence and if they do they provide an edited part leaving out the rest
I disagree with Shamsi's Dawah but without a shadow of a doubt would I jump in to support my brother in Islam over a Shia. To be honest, Spubs files should take this down as it isn't even worth one-upping given the opponent is a Shia. Its not personal with Shamsi, but I have theological animosity towards those Shias. They have nothing to do with our religion
Had it been a theological issue then you would have been right. However in this case it’s not been fully established the guy was even a “real Shia” just an angry father.
@@sp-files82 okay Alhamdulillah , just needed to clarify that so that our Spubs condemnation doesn’t lead to going to the other extreme and siding with Shia.
"Patience and discretion are vital in Dawah work. Let's avoid hasty actions and public disputes, as it can lead to prolonged conflicts. Unity and brotherhood are our strengths. #DawahWisdom" #fighttheshia
"Let's strive for unity and mutual respect in our Dawah efforts. Even if differences exist, respectful conversations can bridge gaps and strengthen our collective mission. #DawahUnity" Also keep in mind that you will be corrected if you are mistaken. You'll be proven wrong!
fair but his dad showing up is proof enough, dont u think, look at his behavior. he didnt say shamsi is responsibl, they said shamsi dont think about the ramifications of what he does, this controversy is because of shamsi annd it did nothing but made muslims look bad. shamsi needs to stay at home.
the point brother is hes a kid regardless I havent seen the video but my only guess is he made the kid look really bad and now the kid is made fun of first off shamsi is a grown man he shouldnt be debating young kids understanding that there knowledge isn't there yet also u say this how is shamsi responsible for this he put the video up if u wanna use that logic then why are yall always after people calling for khurooj are they not responsible for what they call too seems like you only like to use stuff when it benefits u may allah guide us all amen
I agree. Don't like madkhalis in general, but here the big guy is clearly at fault for slamming into Shamsi and using extremely abusive languages. I don't think there is any age limit to who can debate in the speaker's corner. If other people made fun of his son, the most he can do is to politely ask Shamsi to remove the video or if possible take legal actions.
Let us not divide ourselves. I don't know the issue. But😂 may be shia lost the debate and he ended up beating himself at home. Allahyara-shia scholar does this in one of his online debate where he looses and then ends up beating himself. I can't find that video. Does anyone have that?
It's not even Shamsi's fault from what is apparent. You'd have to look at the 3 things, 1. The original video if it is still up, 2. The original video of this 'fight', and 3. Look at both/all sides of the 'argument' and be just. Cherry picking isn't acceptable. Not saying they are doing it in this video. Just saying so that people know how to research properly
If you’ve followed this channel from the start you’d realise that “cherry picking” is what we do (occasionally) because that’s what Shamsi and his cult do in order to discredit other speakers and scholars. We try to be as fair as possible when doing so but we can’t help it if most people don’t get the drift and understand the full context of things.
So you just admited that you 'cherry pick' (intentionally manipulate people, through videos you believe that fit your narrative, even at the expense of the full truth), and you believe it's okay because, "apparently" shamsi does it? How does that justify you doing it? Extremely disingenuous.
@@sp-files82 as salamu alaikum , I dont agree with everything you do and have my doubts but this channel is long overdue. The Madkhalis are the biggest hypocrits going and nowhere was this more apparent and extreme than in Yemen against the Houthis whwre they ran to the mountains and sougbt shelter from the "khawarij" against them. Literally were protected by Awlakis grouo (AQ) and transfered to Saudi safely. They are absolute clowns
may Allah the most high rectify this ummah. we've become so sensitive and soft! I'm not a fan of spubs, but those comments were not harsh or malice in the least, we need to collectively get thicker skin insha_Allah. oh Allah may you get rid of this victim mindset we have in the ummah and increase us in strength, ameen
I don’t agree with alot of what spubs do but how is he responsible for how the kid took his content… honestly this is to the point of backbiting this is shamsi getting into fight has nothing to do with deen why aren’t u covering up his sin? We’re human we sin and he was angry and got into a fight and u expose him? Nah that’s not right and trust me I’m very aware of the unjust things people affiliated with spubs do but this doesn’t make it right your jus giving shamsi ur good deeds
Fishing in murky water. Even if Shamsi is madkhali, don't make it personal. This issue which shows no obvious intentional oppression by him, is not related to Madkhalism and should be analysed separately as a muslim brother. Obviously, at the starting point, he was sincere to help the dad, but the other guy was too aggressive. Mistakes happen, and Shamsi or his fans also get emotional against Shia talks and nothing obviously and intentionally oppressive from him at the beginning. Be just. (يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كُونُوا قَوَّامِينَ لِلَّهِ شُهَدَاءَ بِالْقِسْطِ ۖ وَلَا يَجْرِمَنَّكُمْ شَنَآنُ قَوْمٍ عَلَىٰ أَلَّا تَعْدِلُوا)
Shamsi is the kind of person who would give up other muslim brothers to authorities for execution to please his masters. He has personally attacked all the people of Sp-Files, and they have a right to fight back and expose him.
@@-------....___ Just because he crosses the redline, is not a justification to do similar oppression against him. I just cited a Quranic verse specifically advocates for that. What's your justification from Quran and Sunnah, or even logically to leave your principles of justices just to seek revenge? Exposing someones is not by distorting the incident and playing with comments. If the incident is enough, then their wouldn't be any editing on the video and people would see clearly if he was doing something blatantly wrong. Rather the video is silent about the intentional aggressor, and exaggerated an honest mistake. Shamsi's video/speech has a large amount of issue you can speak about and expose. For sure this video is malicious and dishonest. And i'm usually with sp files. But not for this one for sure.
So shamsi, it seems you dont have the power & strength to fight the brother. Going by own logic you should have sat down and just took a pummelling. Why would you cause more fitnah ine the park by trying to fight him. Just he silent ans take the beating scamsi.
and shamsi dropping P bombs and acting like he ready to die which he is punk we know this by witnessing when tommy robison shows up ,shamsi and his clown henchmen disappear.
@@drive-2786why you got so much hate for a brother who gives dawah and defends Islam. Look at your akhlaq openly insulting your brothers with no fear of Allah. Spend your time more wisely
@@virtualwanderer Sorry, but Shamsi is the one who insults muslim brothers. He calls everyone who differs with him an innovator or a khwarij. There is no doubt his dawah against Shia is good, but his ikhlaq against Sunni muslims is very bad.
@@-------....___ whether that is true or not, these are general statements not calling out individuals. There is no justification to insult someone in public especially when the person is not present and there is clearly no public greater good in doing so.
@@virtualwanderer Shamsi does that in every video. He calls other muslims names in his videos, when they are not present either. But you are telling this guy not to say anything because Shamsi gives dawah and defends deen? Who should know better, Shamsi or this guy? Also, what did the commenter say which was wrong? He simply said Shamsi cursing and acting all mighty, but running away when Tommy Robinson came to the park. What is the insult here? Is it not true what he said? He called him a punk, which is actually true based on his actions. He acts like this, but when another da'ee will do it, he will make videos insulting them. There is alot of hatred in his heart, which is very evident from all the videos I have seen of him. Sorry, but totally disagree with you. Shamsi is now a public figure, and he attacks Sunni muslims non-stop. Anyone can comment on what he says and does because it is already public. There is a reason for the hate he gets from a lot of people.
Where is your loyalty Muslims. Don’t show disunity in front of non Muslims and rawafid. Shamsi is still out Muslim brother. I would side with him a million times before picking the side of a rafidi dog
@@alimiah4487 munafiq? Also what is your point, you would side with the shia over salafiyya? Now that is what's crazy, much more insane than anything else we're talking about for sure
This show is getting old… It’s become habit at this point… as long as those dollaz keep flowing from books and dafah’s, and those sisters keep piling in looking for Salafi bros to marry the show will go on… Ringling Brothers…. SHEIKH RABEEEEEEE’ ✊🏾…. Give us a break already…. The people are warmed up enough…. Just give them beneficial knowledge, connect them to the scholars and stop holding on to knowledge and its people like a back up firearm… and also…. 🤌🏾 when you get caught with your pants down…. Just say astaghfirullah and make tawbah and go on with the next day trying to better…. Not twist principles to suit you….WAS THIS NOT THE ORIGINAL SIN…. The crime of abul Hassan Al ma’ribi???
You have a duty of care of uniting the ummah, seeing as though you want to preach and share lnowledge of islam. This applies to all the speakers and imams. Honestly, you have failed miserably of uniting the ummah together. You would rather open your establishment and give yourselves fancy names, which our nabi peace be upon does not have any knowledge of. You guys are an embarrassment. Get your act together. Correct yourselves and be a finer example to the ummah and the non muslim community. Only Allah knows why you are preaching and i hope that it is not for monetisation on youtube and attention on social media. May Allah guide us all and bring us together. Ameer ya rab
that is too excessive and Espionage shamsi become angry , shamsi did this , did that ,come one ,to become angry or harsh towards shia it is normal thing it is not only for salafis ali dawah and mohmed do the same thing when they debating the rafidah i don't understand what is so special shamsi ?? when it comes debating shia
@@SPDRM they are the "saved sect" so anyone not in their sect their blood is halal. The pseudo-salafis are like Jews, everyone is a goyim to them. Worthless humans
You have to be fair even against people you disagree with. Shamsi does repeatedly ask “who is your son”and show me”’. The other bloke was aggressive from the onset. The guy ignores this and even asks Shamsi to “come around the corner”. The other brothers asked him to explain the incident with his son.
Shamsi loses his cool, but I wouldn’t expect him to be angel in that situation.
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That is fine. Anyone can lose his cool. The reason SP-FILES has highlighted this is because Shamsi himself has made multiple videos against other muslim brothers who did the same or less and he was backbiting their behavior. He needs to stop being a hypocrite.
But he then started saying “i don’t care, I don’t care” while waving the brother away. If he meant what he said, he would tell all his minions to back away and talk privately with him instead of letting a crowd gather.
🤣🤣🤣🤣and acted like a good idiot
such as ? , because I haven't such from Shamsi @@-------....___
May Allah deal with madkhalism and remove their evil from the ummah
Ameen
Ameen
Ameen
Madkhalis will be destroyed when Mahdi AS will come. They will be with the armies and 'rulers' that oppose the true Caliph.
In the past, they were part of Yazid's army against Hussain RA.
@@-------....___ Malook or Monarchy you mean.
To be fair his son shouldn’t be debating Sunni Muslims if he can’t take it
The comments weren't that bad to be honest.
This an overreaction from everyone lol. The comments weren’t even that bad tbh, just saying the Shiah were ignorant of their own religion etc, the dad overreacted then Shamsi also overreacted. What a mess speakers corner is
Edit: beating himself up comment was distasteful
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that voice i was unable to contril my laughter 😂😂😂
shamsi looks like mega mind in the first clip
Change your channel name to Fitna-Files since thats the only thing youre good at spreading
Shamsi definitely should have shown restraint, he knows he's in Speaker's Corner, but I understand why it escalated. The father should have asked the channel to remove the video in hindsight, the comments aren't horrendous and this is how we usually react to the Shi'a. But it has made me reflect upon how detached I feel from the people in the video and that sometimes they do look through the comments and get hurt and pushed further away. May Allah guide us all
I’d be depressed if I was shia too. No barakah in cursing sahaba. Alhamdulillah for Islam.
i feel sad for you RA killed RA and all in heaven, what a beautiful fairytale, shia are the true Muslims
Yes the true Muslims are the less than 10% that come from Iran 😂 Ayotollah cult, cutting themselves like magicians and cursing the ones that Allah SWT has honoured in the Quran. The Quran which they can hardly recite.
Anyone got the link to video of his son with Shamsi?
Where is the link to the video?
Lol shamsi got a twitch
These brothers should do below...
1. Stay away from dawah scene
2. Learn classical Arabic
3. Learn deen without prejudice against any denomination of Muslims
Wheres the video and whos the son?
Wallah I never noticed Shamsi's chin before. Is there a filter on?
Good video, only the speed of the video messes me up
Let’s be honest, his 14yr old son shouldn’t be debating grown men in a park known for video recording debates. Also, why did he wait 2 years, why not ask him to take down the video early on. And Shamsi isn’t responsible for what kids in school say, or the comments.
As a parent, this brother should’ve done better to keep his “young son” away from the spotlight. And could’ve asked Shamsi in a calm way instead of physically threatening him. He left it too late for this depression to develop in his son.
But, Shamsi also was wrong by saying “I don’t care, I don’t care” after he didn’t see the proof immediately, lack of social intelligence on his behalf. He made the situation escalate.
maybe one day some evangelical chritians will interview your children on youtube and dig out some really obsecure stuff about Quran becoming a pale man (holy ghost). or that Ruh was sent from us (Allah) to Isa (and claiming divinity in Isa) or some other stuff from evangelicals and then put your son on blast on their channels and making him look like a fool and blind follower.
My knowledge of Islam at age 14 was non-existent. I just followed whjat I was told to believe.
Going by your own words. You obvuiously wont blame evangelicals at all. You'll blame yourself. Let all your cousins and family see that your kids are clueless about Islam when an evangelical makes out to your kids that there is trininity in Islam.
before you cast any judgement, turn the tables around ask yourself if you're OK with it being the other way round.
I don’t get why he was saying 2 years as it was a recent video?
that goes both ways doesn't grown man shouldn't be debating 14 year old
@@armsie100debating? When someone hits puberty he is now being held accountable for his actions and if he is misguided Allah will ask him about that. Therefore at 14 you can speak and teach where is the proof it was a debate? Maybe it was just Shamsi speaking to him nicely and explaining to him that is all
What happened someone explain
No evidence nothing.
Wers their tawheed gon now
Begging the police to help them
Joke aside, not good. Negative effect for dawah
They are prostitutes
To be fair he said Come to Bush
@@mrlestaGeorge Bush
Don't look up to online personalities, ya ikhwa. All the serious 'Ulemah of Islam try to stay out of the public eye as much as possible because fame is known to harm the nafs, tremendously. This is a clear example. Look at how furious the brother is over his own self, his fragile ego, his own public image, his fear of being seen as "weak" in front of people...he can't even breathe, subhaanAllah.
I wish this guy, and the Madkhali brothers in general were this passionate and emotionally invested in how divided the Muslims are, over the suffering of our Muslim brothers and sisters in war-torn places such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Kashmir, Uyghur China etc. Rather they are the first to join the media campaigns against Muslims everywhere, calling them names like Khawaarij, Deobandi, Ikhwaani, Mumayyi, etc. but hypocritically standing with the enemies of Islam, the Ilmaani (secular) stooges, neo-colonizers, who are ruining our societies from the top down with their outright corruption, robbing of the wealth, murder, backdoor dealings with the enemy and hatred of their own people. Everywhere I found the Madkhalis they are people who look like us, speak our language, and seem like friends, but rather are used by the enemy, creating division in the ranks, busying themselves with dunya, neglecting spirituality, promoting their pathetic under-qualified teachers who can't even read, questioning others on "what they think of so-and-so scholar/da3ee" and getting into petty, small minded nonsense.
Ya ikhwa stay away from these Madkhalis, these SPUBS these DUS dawah people, all this will corrupt your deen. Wallahi you can take this exact same Sunnah, this path that the pious precedesors were upon, this beautiful perfect knowledge from Allah, from your local masjid or from so many other programs online. Most of what they are warning you against and busying you with causes more harm then good, wallahi. If honey is mixed with poison, just find better quality honey insha-Allah.
Well said
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@@kab1rI will look into it inshaAllah
@@electronicjihad nothing he said was emotional. Calling for the ummah to unite under a caliph is every Muslims responsibility. It is ordered by Allah SWT and the Prophet PBUH - do not be divided.
It’s because of garbage like you that we are in this state today.
shamsi was wrong to pick on little kids to interrogate them. end of. im a sunni.
Show the proof
@@xander583 common sense, they are 14 year old. There is no khair on interrogating a 14 year old for views on social media. If you wanted to do it fisabilillah, then at least blur out their face.
I saw the video. A romanian begger woman came, pretending to be muslim asking for alms. Shamsi completely ignored her. Why not do khair and interrogate her - ask her about Islam, interrogate her why she's pretending to be Muslim to get money from people. The begger scammer literally interrupted the inquisition on the shia boys.
They're just boys, they dont know any better. Let them be.
The is not the first and wont be the last time shamsi messed up. He has beef with ali dawah and mohammed hijab. He almost got into a fight with a afro carribean guy by saying he's mad for beleiving in trinity, without explaining or giving reason. He just decided to make fun of him. If shamsi didn't have all his entourage with him. The afro caribbean guy would have smacked him for that. He was vexxed.
Daee should not be causing confrontation like this. They actually put off as many people off Islam as they draw in. The see this shia sunni kerfuffle and they think and you want me to be in this mess? No thanks.
Shia can only running 😂🎉
That guy swearing is definitely a Shia, he was swearing at Shamsi years ago calling him a bumba clart when Shamsi was preaching with his teacher on a stool asking the Shias where it says to follow Ahlul Bayt
Source ?
@@sp-files82 Yeah, I saw it too. He was in the crowd with Shias, and was cursing Shamsi. Shamsi was standing on a stool in blue clothes, talking to the crowd when the masked Shia and this guy started arguing with him.
Shamsi dealt with him correctly here, even though I don't agree with Shamsi on how he deals with other muslims (calling everyone that differs with him a khawarij or innovator) and his absolute bootlicking obedience to monarchs. The issue with this fight was simply that Shamsi mocks other da'ees for the same thing he has done here, which is hypocritical, that is all.
@@sp-files82 Sent you the link and time stamp. Honestly, I am 99% sure it is the same guy. Same look. Same sound everything. He is a Rafidi.
Don't believe anything coming from Munafiq Shamsi and his supporters they are no different from those deceiving Christians who make claims but never provide evidence and if they do they provide an edited part leaving out the rest
@@-------....___ where’s the link ?
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he lose it when shamsi said he don t care , yeah why would anyone or shamsi care about ur son😂😂
I disagree with Shamsi's Dawah but without a shadow of a doubt would I jump in to support my brother in Islam over a Shia. To be honest, Spubs files should take this down as it isn't even worth one-upping given the opponent is a Shia. Its not personal with Shamsi, but I have theological animosity towards those Shias. They have nothing to do with our religion
Had it been a theological issue then you would have been right. However in this case it’s not been fully established the guy was even a “real Shia” just an angry father.
@@sp-files82 okay Alhamdulillah , just needed to clarify that so that our Spubs condemnation doesn’t lead to going to the other extreme and siding with Shia.
you tried before to destroy shia but the truth will always prevail, when it comes to logic and evidence and intellect you have nothing @@redman6790
"Patience and discretion are vital in Dawah work. Let's avoid hasty actions and public disputes, as it can lead to prolonged conflicts. Unity and brotherhood are our strengths. #DawahWisdom"
#fighttheshia
"Let's strive for unity and mutual respect in our Dawah efforts. Even if differences exist, respectful conversations can bridge gaps and strengthen our collective mission. #DawahUnity"
Also keep in mind that you will be corrected if you are mistaken. You'll be proven wrong!
His son probably has doubts about shi'ism 🤣🤣🤣
This is pathetic from sp files.
How is shamsi responsible for other peoplew comments? Did u show proof of shamsi treating his son badly?
No.
fair but his dad showing up is proof enough, dont u think, look at his behavior. he didnt say shamsi is responsibl, they said shamsi dont think about the ramifications of what he does, this controversy is because of shamsi annd it did nothing but made muslims look bad. shamsi needs to stay at home.
the point brother is hes a kid regardless I havent seen the video but my only guess is he made the kid look really bad and now the kid is made fun of first off shamsi is a grown man he shouldnt be debating young kids understanding that there knowledge isn't there yet also u say this how is shamsi responsible for this he put the video up if u wanna use that logic then why are yall always after people calling for khurooj are they not responsible for what they call too seems like you only like to use stuff when it benefits u may allah guide us all amen
Shamsi could try to be sympathetic instead of trying to literally fight him.
I agree. Don't like madkhalis in general, but here the big guy is clearly at fault for slamming into Shamsi and using extremely abusive languages. I don't think there is any age limit to who can debate in the speaker's corner. If other people made fun of his son, the most he can do is to politely ask Shamsi to remove the video or if possible take legal actions.
@@jamworthy14stay home? He should stay in prison
Let us not divide ourselves.
I don't know the issue.
But😂 may be shia lost the debate and he ended up beating himself at home.
Allahyara-shia scholar does this in one of his online debate where he looses and then ends up beating himself. I can't find that video. Does anyone have that?
Mate imagine Shias giving dawah, and explaining how hitting yourself is part of islam to non-muslims.
School boys in the playground 😂😂😂
It's not even Shamsi's fault from what is apparent. You'd have to look at the 3 things, 1. The original video if it is still up, 2. The original video of this 'fight', and 3. Look at both/all sides of the 'argument' and be just. Cherry picking isn't acceptable. Not saying they are doing it in this video. Just saying so that people know how to research properly
If you’ve followed this channel from the start you’d realise that “cherry picking” is what we do (occasionally) because that’s what Shamsi and his cult do in order to discredit other speakers and scholars. We try to be as fair as possible when doing so but we can’t help it if most people don’t get the drift and understand the full context of things.
So you just admited that you 'cherry pick' (intentionally manipulate people, through videos you believe that fit your narrative, even at the expense of the full truth), and you believe it's okay because, "apparently" shamsi does it? How does that justify you doing it? Extremely disingenuous.
@@sp-files82 as salamu alaikum , I dont agree with everything you do and have my doubts but this channel is long overdue. The Madkhalis are the biggest hypocrits going and nowhere was this more apparent and extreme than in Yemen against the Houthis whwre they ran to the mountains and sougbt shelter from the "khawarij" against them. Literally were protected by Awlakis grouo (AQ) and transfered to Saudi safely. They are absolute clowns
Shamsi is cheap ai bot 🤖
may Allah the most high rectify this ummah. we've become so sensitive and soft! I'm not a fan of spubs, but those comments were not harsh or malice in the least, we need to collectively get thicker skin insha_Allah. oh Allah may you get rid of this victim mindset we have in the ummah and increase us in strength, ameen
Someone needs to end shamsis dawah for good
I don’t agree with alot of what spubs do but how is he responsible for how the kid took his content… honestly this is to the point of backbiting this is shamsi getting into fight has nothing to do with deen why aren’t u covering up his sin? We’re human we sin and he was angry and got into a fight and u expose him? Nah that’s not right and trust me I’m very aware of the unjust things people affiliated with spubs do but this doesn’t make it right your jus giving shamsi ur good deeds
Shamsi ready to fight after he saw police arrived? Not before?
HAHAHAHA. Ready to fight when police came so that they can hold him back.🤣
Shamsi in fighting mood 😂
jackass mood .he is no fighter when tommie pull up to the park to teach the muslim a lesson. shamsi run away
Legend has it Shamsi is still hiding behind a tree from the time when Tommie came to the park while other Muslims came to defend Islam
@mohbubmiah955 Only a munafiq will show support to another munafiq
@@drive-2786Mans was running from Ali what you on about?
Wallahi shamsi is a khawarij
Wallahi you said?
@@Dvlly99 I mean, Shamsi does behave like them. Telling people who is muslim, who is kharji, who is innovator.
May Allah deal with the Shia!
I think dua't should speak with teens very kindly not agressively like shamsi always do
No wonder the son is a phycological wreck. Apple doesnt fall far from the tree as the saying goes.
Madkhali dayuth manhaj needs to continue to be exposed
If he cared about his son so much. Y did he allow him to speak with other men alone? Ridiculous shia 😂😂 he prob did taqiya
Shia a joke.
How do you know he's a Shia?
fear Allah akhi
@@AbuAbdullahAlHanbali all i am asking is where is the evidence that person who spoke against is a Shia.
im talking to the original commenter akhi@@vikasudin3871
May Allah guide you.
You know on the day of judgment Allah will ask you about these things and videos.
So shamsi is accountable for the comments ?
Keep son at home
The main variable here is SHAMSI. He’s in the middle of all this altercation.
Fishing in murky water. Even if Shamsi is madkhali, don't make it personal. This issue which shows no obvious intentional oppression by him, is not related to Madkhalism and should be analysed separately as a muslim brother. Obviously, at the starting point, he was sincere to help the dad, but the other guy was too aggressive. Mistakes happen, and Shamsi or his fans also get emotional against Shia talks and nothing obviously and intentionally oppressive from him at the beginning. Be just.
(يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كُونُوا قَوَّامِينَ لِلَّهِ شُهَدَاءَ بِالْقِسْطِ ۖ وَلَا يَجْرِمَنَّكُمْ شَنَآنُ قَوْمٍ عَلَىٰ أَلَّا تَعْدِلُوا)
Shamsi is the kind of person who would give up other muslim brothers to authorities for execution to please his masters. He has personally attacked all the people of Sp-Files, and they have a right to fight back and expose him.
@@-------....___ Just because he crosses the redline, is not a justification to do similar oppression against him. I just cited a Quranic verse specifically advocates for that. What's your justification from Quran and Sunnah, or even logically to leave your principles of justices just to seek revenge? Exposing someones is not by distorting the incident and playing with comments. If the incident is enough, then their wouldn't be any editing on the video and people would see clearly if he was doing something blatantly wrong. Rather the video is silent about the intentional aggressor, and exaggerated an honest mistake. Shamsi's video/speech has a large amount of issue you can speak about and expose. For sure this video is malicious and dishonest. And i'm usually with sp files. But not for this one for sure.
So shamsi, it seems you dont have the power & strength to fight the brother. Going by own logic you should have sat down and just took a pummelling. Why would you cause more fitnah ine the park by trying to fight him. Just he silent ans take the beating scamsi.
Just sn embarrasment to the deen
Shamsi is not afraid, that father was disgusting in his speech, anyway where’s the sons video and what happened?
and shamsi dropping P bombs and acting like he ready to die which he is punk we know this by witnessing when tommy robison shows up ,shamsi and his clown henchmen disappear.
@@drive-2786why you got so much hate for a brother who gives dawah and defends Islam. Look at your akhlaq openly insulting your brothers with no fear of Allah. Spend your time more wisely
@@virtualwanderer Sorry, but Shamsi is the one who insults muslim brothers. He calls everyone who differs with him an innovator or a khwarij. There is no doubt his dawah against Shia is good, but his ikhlaq against Sunni muslims is very bad.
@@-------....___ whether that is true or not, these are general statements not calling out individuals. There is no justification to insult someone in public especially when the person is not present and there is clearly no public greater good in doing so.
@@virtualwanderer Shamsi does that in every video. He calls other muslims names in his videos, when they are not present either. But you are telling this guy not to say anything because Shamsi gives dawah and defends deen? Who should know better, Shamsi or this guy?
Also, what did the commenter say which was wrong? He simply said Shamsi cursing and acting all mighty, but running away when Tommy Robinson came to the park. What is the insult here? Is it not true what he said? He called him a punk, which is actually true based on his actions. He acts like this, but when another da'ee will do it, he will make videos insulting them. There is alot of hatred in his heart, which is very evident from all the videos I have seen of him.
Sorry, but totally disagree with you. Shamsi is now a public figure, and he attacks Sunni muslims non-stop. Anyone can comment on what he says and does because it is already public. There is a reason for the hate he gets from a lot of people.
Where is your loyalty Muslims. Don’t show disunity in front of non Muslims and rawafid. Shamsi is still out Muslim brother. I would side with him a million times before picking the side of a rafidi dog
The only dog here is you.
Shamsi is a Kharij, all of you are khawarij and the head needs to come off.
Before taking sides ask Munafiq Shamsi if he even considers you as a Muslim.
@@alimiah4487 LOL. Shamsi will probably think he is an innovator or khariji if he differs 1% even. He will tell everyone not to even sit with you.
@@alimiah4487😂😂
@@alimiah4487 munafiq? Also what is your point, you would side with the shia over salafiyya? Now that is what's crazy, much more insane than anything else we're talking about for sure
This show is getting old… It’s become habit at this point… as long as those dollaz keep flowing from books and dafah’s, and those sisters keep piling in looking for Salafi bros to marry the show will go on… Ringling Brothers…. SHEIKH RABEEEEEEE’ ✊🏾…. Give us a break already…. The people are warmed up enough…. Just give them beneficial knowledge, connect them to the scholars and stop holding on to knowledge and its people like a back up firearm… and also…. 🤌🏾 when you get caught with your pants down…. Just say astaghfirullah and make tawbah and go on with the next day trying to better…. Not twist principles to suit you….WAS THIS NOT THE ORIGINAL SIN…. The crime of abul Hassan Al ma’ribi???
You have a duty of care of uniting the ummah, seeing as though you want to preach and share lnowledge of islam. This applies to all the speakers and imams. Honestly, you have failed miserably of uniting the ummah together. You would rather open your establishment and give yourselves fancy names, which our nabi peace be upon does not have any knowledge of. You guys are an embarrassment. Get your act together. Correct yourselves and be a finer example to the ummah and the non muslim community. Only Allah knows why you are preaching and i hope that it is not for monetisation on youtube and attention on social media. May Allah guide us all and bring us together. Ameer ya rab
that is too excessive and Espionage
shamsi become angry , shamsi did this , did that ,come one ,to become angry or harsh towards shia it is normal thing it is not only for salafis ali dawah and mohmed do the same thing when they debating the rafidah i don't understand what is so special shamsi ?? when it comes debating shia
his approved comment section bullied a kid into depression. Nothing wrong because he is "shia" right?
@@SPDRM they are the "saved sect" so anyone not in their sect their blood is halal.
The pseudo-salafis are like Jews, everyone is a goyim to them. Worthless humans
@@SPDRMshias r some inbred emo chest clappers anyway nothing surprising with them becoming depressed
Did you miss the part that hes not actually Shia?
the kid felt into anxiety because of supporters of shamsi,
Wahabi is best friend of israel
@Sp-files. Not every battle is to be fought. This one Shamsi is definitely in the right. May Allah guide us all.
shamshe wants to be a tuff mutah boy and all his fan gals started to dance like the houris in mo's sex fill jannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnahahaha
My opinion, Shamsi is in the right here. The father looks just as mentally unstable as his son is claimed to be.