@@Smis1337 the lack of resources in this game from time to time really sucks, but I guess thats what we get in tradeoff for having the sharding system..
@@realmeme6 yeah. When i saw the kit, i didn't think it was that horrible, just very experimental and decided to wait on giving out judgement till he's actually out. Ended up being a really good idea
Lantern Yi Sang might win against Sunshower for ID with the weirdest mechanics. Sanity gain on clash lose + unbreakable coins w/ clash lose effects and Sanity loss on clash win + minus coin S3 Means he'll never actually be at 80%+ Hp or at 30+ Sanity if you use him 'correctly', truly ideal
Lantern Sang fixes everything wrong with Sunshowers kit: Lowering his SP at will and not by using a status effect on self to do it (that can often backfire), giving benefits to being hit and losing clashes, and still not losing damage by having unbreakable coins. I hope this is a sign PM is going to make more Negative SP IDs in the future.
No I want it to exist because this is literally the only teambuilding/team-strategizing rupture even has rn (having to run gluttony doesn’t count since thats more mandatory than optional)
@@Smis1337 Need someone to find the optimal level where high enough he can lose clash with S2 but not stag right away and low enough where he can die after 3-4 turn before reaching the 15-3 requirement.
I test this ID and I can't really tell if he is good with the negative coins built or not still love this ID because of how fun and consistent it is to keep the insanity level to zero.
Best case scenario when you have all other IDs levels and everything, yea, you'll just use him for resources on death. For a budget rupture team he'd be great, since he's basically 7cliff but more rupture count, less potency (and more gimmicks)
The 15/3 rule is killing me dude I absolutely love how this ID looks and attacks, but I lost all of my will to use it after the above mentioned gimmick Speaking of which, this ID goes to Devyat Sinclair garbage bin for me
I disagree. If you were a rupture veteran, seeing a gluttony defense that is 1 rupture positive INSTANTLY makes this a GOD TIER rupture unit (even if only below 15/3).
Agreed with op, 15/3 bullshitnees pushing into new rupture ids is honestly just... Lame. PM what happened? Give rupture finally something good to make it relevant and desirable to build and play instead just being in WildCliffs coffin
@@shardtherox I also disagree, I think W sang is better 99% of the time but it does help that the counter has count to make it not negative, he's way better in a solo since count is more manageable as he's alone, but he's only useful at high potency/count when he dies since that's where he starts to become useless and lose his kit, and with W sang existing it's kind of a devyat clair situation where if you have wsang with dim shredder you don't really have a reason to use him
@OK4Lisateur Although Wsang is usable past the threshold, I find Lantern to be way more reliable, as unlike WSang, 1. he has a gluttony defense whereas WSang relies on drawing S2 for gluttony, and 2. Wsang is useless on turn 1 as he needs at least 2 turns to be able to get enough Charge to make S2 neutral whereas Lantern can do 4 Count (S2) or 2 Count (Counter) on turn 1. (If you haven’t inferred already, I’m a Talisman player. I heavily emphasize on consistency and early turn value simply because Talisman teams are extremely fast in general. For reference, I very consistently clear 7-34 in 5 turns)
@@shardtherox id say it depends on how fight is designed, if there is a buffer of trash mobs before the actual boss (like in 7-36), w sang is strictly better, in something like 7-34 id agree lantern is more consistent if you don't want to reset for turn 1. Though you can also accelerate w sang ramp with a turn 1 superbia DS
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this is a meme id and even worst than chef greg long text skill ,doesn't apply any rupture at 15 pottency,reversted sanity ,shit clashing because of low attack level,reversted sanity wining make you go negative sp but only his skill3 negative coin making his skill 1 and 2 worthless the saving grace that fielding this in give free e.g.o resorce on death making for great fodder if we has more decent rupture unit
@@trashman8080I don't think he's "great" since his count application is horrible after the 15;3 conditional in an archetype where you want the highest potency with the highest count, definitely a count starter with potency but W sang is better long term and generaly neutral if you play him correctly even in a team
Meta is just high clashing power + Easy to use (+damage also) but he pretty much dies fast (for a good cause) and is a bit tricky to use his damage is well rupture so...good ish??
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new yi sang id feels like what potential man id should be and it's really fun to play
Clash lose gimmicks be damned, just simply win the game
Funny ID with funny skill names
That's not funny. That genius.
It's ideal.
I can’t read
this ID honestly was nowhere near as bad as the kit on monday made it out to be. He's actually pretty decent and really fun to use
I'm having a lot to fun playing around with him.
I'll most likely regret levelling him up when RR5 comes around tho lmao
@@Smis1337 the lack of resources in this game from time to time really sucks, but I guess thats what we get in tradeoff for having the sharding system..
@@zylou8643they made sharding worse now
it's like a community goal to shit on kit reveals and then thank the living hell out of them when they come out and realize they are not shit
@@realmeme6 yeah. When i saw the kit, i didn't think it was that horrible, just very experimental and decided to wait on giving out judgement till he's actually out. Ended up being a really good idea
If my own Distortion looked something like this, I too would be jealous of the people that have seen it.
"mediocre" bro, its pretty peak
anyone here thought that was a rose on his distorted form on first sight?
@@pein4332 🌚✋
Having Netzach as the annoucer for a run with this id is hilarious
I love when funny negative coin skill 3
Lantern Yi Sang might win against Sunshower for ID with the weirdest mechanics.
Sanity gain on clash lose + unbreakable coins w/ clash lose effects and Sanity loss on clash win + minus coin S3
Means he'll never actually be at 80%+ Hp or at 30+ Sanity if you use him 'correctly', truly ideal
it's peak ID design you use s1,s2 and then s3
Lantern Sang fixes everything wrong with Sunshowers kit:
Lowering his SP at will and not by using a status effect on self to do it (that can often backfire), giving benefits to being hit and losing clashes, and still not losing damage by having unbreakable coins.
I hope this is a sign PM is going to make more Negative SP IDs in the future.
@edgieststalker8141 yeah but sunshower is still funnier
im so amazed and impressed they actually found a way to make rupture fun and not broken. this status is going places i swear
@@edgieststalker8141would still use sunshower tho
I expected for Gregor to have Honeheim identity since he got AEDD for charge, but in the end he was left with mo charge identities
Wait for the rerun
This ID is feel's like funny version of - coin ID but it's actully good
hes pretty neat
Welcome Li Sang G'bye Seven Yi sang
potential man of yi sang ids
Sunshower sobbin on the ground, wishing he could have what yi sang got 😭🙏🙏
potential man could never
can we kill the 15 potency 3 count rupture gimmick
Somehow this id works though... Probably because hes not getting in talisman's way and is suicidal
as long as talisclair exist, no
no, it's more interesting
No I want it to exist because this is literally the only teambuilding/team-strategizing rupture even has rn
(having to run gluttony doesn’t count since thats more mandatory than optional)
Can we just get proper rupture count positive ID with no bullshit whatsoever
Pretty swag ID
Just keep him low level to be a rupture boom.
Honestly you might have more use cases for him this way
@@Smis1337 Need someone to find the optimal level where high enough he can lose clash with S2 but not stag right away and low enough where he can die after 3-4 turn before reaching the 15-3 requirement.
I kinda cooking a team with blubbering toad sinclair and him at level 40....its kinda working? Tho it is resource extensive ofcourse
This might be the new potential man
I test this ID and I can't really tell if he is good with the negative coins built or not still love this ID because of how fun and consistent it is to keep the insanity level to zero.
He’s actually really good in stacking rupture, if his skill 1-2 get ‘destroyed’ it still applies rupture but don’t use up counts.
What a ideal name
NO I GOT SPOILED AGHH
Is it just me that i could never lose with his s1 and s2
awesome
I thought lantern sang use case was as a sack, so you leave him at lvl 1?
Best case scenario when you have all other IDs levels and everything, yea, you'll just use him for resources on death.
For a budget rupture team he'd be great, since he's basically 7cliff but more rupture count, less potency (and more gimmicks)
@ k, also funny how his fairy lure, when target has enough potency, just becomes 5 Fragile lol
@@bonehrusti mean thats when he needs to go so make sense
I think we can use this for ricardo cheese
How needed are the support passives here? If it does have a big impact may I know what the support passives used are
Yap sang sweep
okay but share the video's BGM
It's just the boss' theme
Intervallo V-1 Boss Battle Theme
why you didn't use talisman sinclair as support
He steals the show
He’s so…
tbhh still dont feel like using him
00 ID but casually dealt 400 damage with S3 in MD5H😭😭
This was in the story dungeon
@@Smis1337 yhm excuse me wth
@@ekaitzlanuitjunior9156the boss is gluttony weak of course he will take huge damage
@@Smis1337 i know, when i did it in MD5H all i needed was Rupture Gifts no Poise😭
@@bullet3417hohenheim is only 1,5 weak to gluttony though.
The 15/3 rule is killing me dude
I absolutely love how this ID looks and attacks, but I lost all of my will to use it after the above mentioned gimmick
Speaking of which, this ID goes to Devyat Sinclair garbage bin for me
I disagree. If you were a rupture veteran, seeing a gluttony defense that is 1 rupture positive INSTANTLY makes this a GOD TIER rupture unit (even if only below 15/3).
Agreed with op, 15/3 bullshitnees pushing into new rupture ids is honestly just... Lame.
PM what happened? Give rupture finally something good to make it relevant and desirable to build and play instead just being in WildCliffs coffin
@@shardtherox I also disagree, I think W sang is better 99% of the time but it does help that the counter has count to make it not negative, he's way better in a solo since count is more manageable as he's alone, but he's only useful at high potency/count when he dies since that's where he starts to become useless and lose his kit, and with W sang existing it's kind of a devyat clair situation where if you have wsang with dim shredder you don't really have a reason to use him
@OK4Lisateur Although Wsang is usable past the threshold, I find Lantern to be way more reliable, as unlike WSang, 1. he has a gluttony defense whereas WSang relies on drawing S2 for gluttony, and 2. Wsang is useless on turn 1 as he needs at least 2 turns to be able to get enough Charge to make S2 neutral whereas Lantern can do 4 Count (S2) or 2 Count (Counter) on turn 1.
(If you haven’t inferred already, I’m a Talisman player. I heavily emphasize on consistency and early turn value simply because Talisman teams are extremely fast in general. For reference, I very consistently clear 7-34 in 5 turns)
@@shardtherox id say it depends on how fight is designed, if there is a buffer of trash mobs before the actual boss (like in 7-36), w sang is strictly better, in something like 7-34 id agree lantern is more consistent if you don't want to reset for turn 1. Though you can also accelerate w sang ramp with a turn 1 superbia DS
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this is a meme id and even worst than chef greg long text skill ,doesn't apply any rupture at 15 pottency,reversted sanity ,shit clashing because of low attack level,reversted sanity wining make you go negative sp but only his skill3 negative coin making his skill 1 and 2 worthless the saving grace that fielding this in give free e.g.o resorce on death making for great fodder if we has more decent rupture unit
hes an awful id wdym 'good'
Hes great, since he is not Sinclair and can get out of the way once hes done
he's more of a pump and dump id 💀 but tbh he seems actually pretty okay. it's just literally the opposite of what limbus meta is currently.
@@Mikairium What's the meta? I thought sacrificing id will be meta for the next canto. Even low turn RR using sacrifice method.
@@trashman8080I don't think he's "great" since his count application is horrible after the 15;3 conditional in an archetype where you want the highest potency with the highest count, definitely a count starter with potency but W sang is better long term and generaly neutral if you play him correctly even in a team
Meta is just high clashing power + Easy to use (+damage also) but he pretty much dies fast (for a good cause) and is a bit tricky to use
his damage is well rupture so...good ish??