Ingco uses Highstar ISR18650 cells for their batterys, for the 2Ah, 4Ah and 6Ah they use the 2000mAh cells And for the 5Ah and 6.5Ah they use the 2500mAh cells. The 2000mAh is rater at 10c (meaning is can deliver a peak current of 2000mAh x 10 = 20Amps) The 2500mAh is raated at 8C (meaning is can deliver a peak current of 2500mAh x 8c = 20Amps) But the test shows the 2000Ah cels are superiors. I guess at 6 and 7.5Ah the tool has reached it peak performance and extra battery power hass less effect. This test was so informative, I was a 5Ah guy but I stand corrected. 4Ah wins
My new Ingo 4 Ah batteries use DMEGC INR18650 20P cells. Highstar in the 2 Ah. My data shoes the Highstars are rated 30 Amp cells and the DMEGC are 40 Amp cells so in the 4Ah battery we have capability of 80 amps whilst the 2 Ah is just 30 Amps. These figures always have to be taken with a pinch of salt and more important is the discharge curves but they do show the 4Ah battery cells to be much more capable than the 2 Ah batteries and this is reflected in this video review.
@@PieterL747 Now, this makes sense why the 5Ah battery has slightly less performance than the 4Ah battery. It has 30Amp cells rather than 40 Amp cells. However being a higher capacity it may perform better after a set period of use and same discharge on both batteries.
Your videos are great. I have not heard much about Northern Bolt and Tool but I watched 3 of your cordless drill videos today to decide which Ingo cordless drill to choose and your videos prompted me to make a purchase from your online shop and subscribe to your channel. Great videos!
Considering that this 66nm Ingco cordless drill comes with 2.0Ah batteries, it makes sense to upgrade to a 4.0Ah battery. Over the 2.0Ah battery, the 4.0Ah battery was: 40 rpm (2.12%) faster in RPM Test; 0.41 sec quicker (11.26%) in Drill Test; and 2.4 nm (9.76%) tourquier in Torque Test. Compared to the performance of 5Ah and higher capacities over 4Ah, the difference is very marginal. Over 4Ah, 7.5Ah has 30 more rpms (1.55%) and is 0.2 sec quicker (6.19%) in RPM and Drill Tests, respectively. However, Torque Test result is same i.e. 27nm. So 4 Ah is for the win!
Awesome video, you guys rock, thank you, i am always expanding my ingco cordless range, your videos are really informative and a massive help for me as a domestic use buyer. Please could you make a video of the impact wrench 850nm
Awesome video, you earned a subscriber👌 looking at some cordless drills on special for black Friday. What do you recommend: Dewalt 18V compact cordless hammer with 2× 1.5Ah batteries for R2,149 Ingco cordless brushless-Compact 66Nm with 2×2Ah batteries for R1,899. Dewalt is obviously better but the batteries are bigger and R250 cheaper. Plus I think Im more likely to buy Ingco for other tools down the line due to availability and cost etc
Thank you for your support! apologies for the late reply, we would recommend the 66nm drill kit, in our store it is R1649 incl vat, see link below: www.northernbolt.co.za/products/ingco-cordless-impact-drill-compact-66nm-brushless-kit-with-2-x-2ah-battery-carry-case if you would like to get in contact you are more than welcome to send me an email - stuart@northernbolt.co.za
They should make a package where is put ingco 66nm brushless and 2 4ah batteries. We will pay for that. And one more package One ingco 66nm plus 500nm wrench with 4ah in a case ....
Can you do a review of the Ingco 20v and 40V pressure washers ? Looking for a portable solution to clean truck radiators on the road. The main concern is too little flow p/m , for reference a 1400W Karcher does the job exceptionally ... Dont need paint removing or core damaging force - just enough to blast dirt/grass from the core without damaging it ( very easy to do if you dont know what you are doing....
I know the angle grinder has a massive jump in performance from the 2ah to 4ah battery. 2ah it cuts out a lot but on 4ah you can really cut with little stoppage
Seems like Ingco knew what they were doing by bundling the 850nm Impact with a 4Ah battery..... I was considering a 7.5AH for the impact , and using the bundled 2 x 4ah with my grinder/soldering iron ect .... Looks like i might just as well buy a couple more 4ah ...
We tried to do this but it broke our rig. We busy building a new rig to test it properly. We will publish our results as soon as we are happy with our rig and testing procedure.
I can't see difference in my circular saw performance using 4ah and 7.5ah battery. But 7.5ah have front battery indicator and give me longer runtime. I hope ingco release a cordless ginder that have dial style speed selector. Their flat button sucks and have to start always in high speed before you can adjust to lower speed
We use a Ingco brushless grinder at work every day for the last couple of months. we use 4ah and 6ah batteries. We use bosch 115 grinders for 8 hours every day for finishing. The ingco cordless is one of the most useful tools in the factory for quick jobs. An example will be to remove strapping from new material where we cut the strapping and only use the grinder for a few seconds at a time. The time you save by not using extension cords for quick jobs is unthinkable.
i compare side by side 4 and 5ah battery, difference is 4ah battery cells have more peak amps than 5, but 5 ah have more capacity, soo it means 6.0 and 7.5 ah batteries have low discharge cells or bms cant deliver more amps
Hi there, We applied downward pressure to all machines during testing, we can assure you the weight of the batteries and their effect on the result is negligible.
It doesn't affect the drilling speed. On drilling purposes people always neglect how sharp the bit is. You can drill fast even in 1.5 batteries. As long as the bit is sharp. However, these are impact drills. Not impact driver/wrench You got to have "the right tool for the right job"
5Ah battery is the maximum where you still have some good balance in your hand for your tools. 6+ Ah batteries are too heavy, but still the best choice for cordless vacuum cleaner or circular saw.
For some reason in South Africa Ingco discontinued the 70nm impact drill 3 months after its launch. Currently the 66nm drill is the most powerful cordless impact drill we have available in our market.
1) The type of batteries in each pack differs radically. If you measure the voltage on the contacts you would find a difference. That makes a radical difference. 2) Higher capacity batteries comes with a higher voltage. That will give you higher speed and thus higher torque. 3) you will need to measure the voltage before the test and then mathematically compensate to do a proper test.
1. These batteries specifically have the same chemistry(NMC), they have the same maximum and minimum voltage parameters. 2. Higher capacity does not mean higher voltage. A higher capacity battery will be able to provide more current without sagging the battery voltage too much, this is what causes the higher rpm. In motors, current is what creates the torque. 3. Assuming they were all fully charged before the test, there will still be a voltage difference between each battery. If it's new and has been properly fully charged between measuring, there may be a 10-50mV difference between each battery. Which isn't a significant enough difference to have a meaningful impact on the results.
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Ingco uses Highstar ISR18650 cells for their batterys, for the 2Ah, 4Ah and 6Ah they use the 2000mAh cells
And for the 5Ah and 6.5Ah they use the 2500mAh cells.
The 2000mAh is rater at 10c (meaning is can deliver a peak current of 2000mAh x 10 = 20Amps)
The 2500mAh is raated at 8C
(meaning is can deliver a peak current of 2500mAh x 8c = 20Amps)
But the test shows the 2000Ah cels are superiors.
I guess at 6 and 7.5Ah the tool has reached it peak performance and extra battery power hass less effect.
This test was so informative, I was a 5Ah guy but I stand corrected. 4Ah wins
Highstar cells isn't so good, both my 4.0ah Dong Cheng/DCA battery went out after 18 months while the EVE cells still going strong after 2 years....
My new Ingo 4 Ah batteries use DMEGC INR18650 20P cells. Highstar in the 2 Ah.
My data shoes the Highstars are rated 30 Amp cells and the DMEGC are 40 Amp cells so in the 4Ah battery we have capability of 80 amps whilst the 2 Ah is just 30 Amps.
These figures always have to be taken with a pinch of salt and more important is the discharge curves but they do show the 4Ah battery cells to be much more capable than the 2 Ah batteries and this is reflected in this video review.
@SwimmingBrambles I just rechecked mine. My 5Ah has Highstar 2500. Maybe they changed or use different suppliers
@@PieterL747 Now, this makes sense why the 5Ah battery has slightly less performance than the 4Ah battery. It has 30Amp cells rather than 40 Amp cells. However being a higher capacity it may perform better after a set period of use and same discharge on both batteries.
Thank you very much for your informative comment! Some valuable information!
Thank you. This was exactly what I was wrestling with for a month.
Absolute pleasure!
Did you win the wrestling? 👀
Excellent review. for South African market. Straight to the point and you covered all angles. Great job.
Your videos are great. I have not heard much about Northern Bolt and Tool but I watched 3 of your cordless drill videos today to decide which Ingo cordless drill to choose and your videos prompted me to make a purchase from your online shop and subscribe to your channel. Great videos!
This video turned out very well!
wow good performance test very good comparison
Considering that this 66nm Ingco cordless drill comes with 2.0Ah batteries, it makes sense to upgrade to a 4.0Ah battery.
Over the 2.0Ah battery, the 4.0Ah battery was:
40 rpm (2.12%) faster in RPM Test;
0.41 sec quicker (11.26%) in Drill Test; and
2.4 nm (9.76%) tourquier in Torque Test.
Compared to the performance of 5Ah and higher capacities over 4Ah, the difference is very marginal.
Over 4Ah, 7.5Ah has 30 more rpms (1.55%) and is 0.2 sec quicker (6.19%) in RPM and Drill Tests, respectively. However, Torque Test result is same i.e. 27nm.
So 4 Ah is for the win!
@yasirmahmood5500 I agree, and I thought for sure the 5Ah would win. Now we know
Thank you very much for your comment! 100% agree with everything you have said here, thank you very much for watching!
Hopefully you will do a similar comparison with the cordless grinder
Well that video was more informative than 90% of what’s actually out there.. thank you.
Thank you very much!
Thank you, this is so informative.
Awesome video, you guys rock, thank you, i am always expanding my ingco cordless range, your videos are really informative and a massive help for me as a domestic use buyer.
Please could you make a video of the impact wrench 850nm
Great video, thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Great video, keep it going , video idea 16v drill vs it's 20v brother
Thank you for your suggestion! We will certainly consider this comparison in the future!
Thanks 😊
Absolute pleasure!
great test, looks like 4ah is the way to go!!
100%
Awesome video, you earned a subscriber👌 looking at some cordless drills on special for black Friday. What do you recommend:
Dewalt 18V compact cordless hammer with 2× 1.5Ah batteries for R2,149
Ingco cordless brushless-Compact 66Nm with 2×2Ah batteries for R1,899. Dewalt is obviously better but the batteries are bigger and R250 cheaper. Plus I think Im more likely to buy Ingco for other tools down the line due to availability and cost etc
Thank you for your support! apologies for the late reply, we would recommend the 66nm drill kit, in our store it is R1649 incl vat, see link below:
www.northernbolt.co.za/products/ingco-cordless-impact-drill-compact-66nm-brushless-kit-with-2-x-2ah-battery-carry-case
if you would like to get in contact you are more than welcome to send me an email - stuart@northernbolt.co.za
Thank you.
You're welcome! Thank you for watching!
They should make a package where is put ingco 66nm brushless and 2 4ah batteries.
We will pay for that.
And one more package
One ingco 66nm plus 500nm wrench with 4ah in a case
....
Very helpful 🍻
I would like to see this test done with the 850nm impact wrench
Can you do a review of the Ingco 20v and 40V pressure washers ? Looking for a portable solution to clean truck radiators on the road. The main concern is too little flow p/m , for reference a 1400W Karcher does the job exceptionally ... Dont need paint removing or core damaging force - just enough to blast dirt/grass from the core without damaging it ( very easy to do if you dont know what you are doing....
Little advice, you should put the INGCO name and Model number in the title to increase search results I think.
Excellent
Can you please do this test with the 115mm brushless cordless angle grinder.
I know the angle grinder has a massive jump in performance from the 2ah to 4ah battery. 2ah it cuts out a lot but on 4ah you can really cut with little stoppage
@@Jacenell7thanks appreciate.
So how would this fair on more power hungry tools like the rotary hammer or even the 40v steamer unit?
Future testing is on the way. We are at the tip of the proverbial iceberg here.
Seems like Ingco knew what they were doing by bundling the 850nm Impact with a 4Ah battery..... I was considering a 7.5AH for the impact , and using the bundled 2 x 4ah with my grinder/soldering iron ect .... Looks like i might just as well buy a couple more 4ah ...
Please do the 850nm impact wrench max torque next
We tried to do this but it broke our rig. We busy building a new rig to test it properly. We will publish our results as soon as we are happy with our rig and testing procedure.
I can't see difference in my circular saw performance using 4ah and 7.5ah battery. But 7.5ah have front battery indicator and give me longer runtime.
I hope ingco release a cordless ginder that have dial style speed selector. Their flat button sucks and have to start always in high speed before you can adjust to lower speed
how is the performance of your circular saw and how long does your battery last ?
I am in two minds about buying a cordless or corded
We use a Ingco brushless grinder at work every day for the last couple of months. we use 4ah and 6ah batteries. We use bosch 115 grinders for 8 hours every day for finishing. The ingco cordless is one of the most useful tools in the factory for quick jobs. An example will be to remove strapping from new material where we cut the strapping and only use the grinder for a few seconds at a time. The time you save by not using extension cords for quick jobs is unthinkable.
i compare side by side 4 and 5ah battery, difference is 4ah battery cells have more peak amps than 5, but 5 ah have more capacity, soo it means 6.0 and 7.5 ah batteries have low discharge cells or bms cant deliver more amps
The best are 2.0 and 4.0ah models
The weight of the battery help it to drill fast 7.5 is heavier than 1.5 bat
Hi there, We applied downward pressure to all machines during testing, we can assure you the weight of the batteries and their effect on the result is negligible.
It doesn't affect the drilling speed. On drilling purposes people always neglect how sharp the bit is. You can drill fast even in 1.5 batteries. As long as the bit is sharp. However, these are impact drills.
Not impact driver/wrench
You got to have "the right tool for the right job"
why there is a big difference in force from 66nm from what they said and the test max is 27nm?
it just marketing, bosch says their top drill have 170nm but but reality it have 72nm max with crazy expensive battery
Seems like from 4Ah the bottleneck are the drill itself
Moral of the story; Dont buy 5ah just directly buy a 6ah if you are from 2ah or 4ah 😅
5Ah battery is the maximum where you still have some good balance in your hand for your tools. 6+ Ah batteries are too heavy, but still the best choice for cordless vacuum cleaner or circular saw.
Thank you for the advice!
And if you are running a 21700 cell Battery and if that Battery is the new TABLESS CELLS and POUCH CELLS will give you more Power
We will definitely be testing this tech in batteries in the future, the weight to power output is continuously improving!
Para miodo de ver el amperaje no le da mas fuerza si no es 3l tiemp5de duración de carga
Soerthings wrong with the 5ah battery, how much more expensive is that than the 4ah
Esta prueba hubiera Sido mejor con el taladro de 70 nm no con ese otro motor con escobillas
For some reason in South Africa Ingco discontinued the 70nm impact drill 3 months after its launch. Currently the 66nm drill is the most powerful cordless impact drill we have available in our market.
1) The type of batteries in each pack differs radically. If you measure the voltage on the contacts you would find a difference. That makes a radical difference.
2) Higher capacity batteries comes with a higher voltage. That will give you higher speed and thus higher torque.
3) you will need to measure the voltage before the test and then mathematically compensate to do a proper test.
Thank you for this insight, going forward with future testing this is something we will measure / consider / look at.
higher capacity batteries have less voltage drop thats why spins faster
1. These batteries specifically have the same chemistry(NMC), they have the same maximum and minimum voltage parameters.
2. Higher capacity does not mean higher voltage. A higher capacity battery will be able to provide more current without sagging the battery voltage too much, this is what causes the higher rpm. In motors, current is what creates the torque.
3. Assuming they were all fully charged before the test, there will still be a voltage difference between each battery. If it's new and has been properly fully charged between measuring, there may be a 10-50mV difference between each battery. Which isn't a significant enough difference to have a meaningful impact on the results.
Dankie vir die goeie raad,🎉 finally
dis 'n plesier!
COARDED TOOLS R MORE RELIABLE THAN CORDLESS SPECIALLY FOR WORKSHOP AND FABRICATION IN FACTORY CORDLESS TOOLS R ONLY SUITABLE FOR SITE WORK WHERE THERE IS NO ELECTRICITY CORDLESS TOLLS R MORE HEAVY THEN COARDED TOOLS BECAUSE OF BATTERY WEIGHT BIGGER BATTERY 🔋 MEANS MORE WEIGHT TO CARRY