The element of surprise for HalfwayDead isn't much of an advantage because when you get into a 1s game with him you always know he's gonna pull some bullshit you've never seen before.
Every Rocket Science video I'm prepared for something that's gonna revolutionize my gameplay but then it turns out I'm too bad to implement it... but this time will surely be different lmaooo
@@NattyGainz I'm bad at this game ROFL. Tried it for 3 days and then gave up and honestly forgot about it until now. Next video though. Gonna be a game changer once I implement it
@@static2634 @ItzSpritz Not correct. The "HelJump" is a separate behavior entirely. The HelJump requires you to have a double jump stored and to use said double jump *before* your back wheels touch the ground. This can cause your front wheels to lift *and* will reset your ability to dodge without jumping off the surface. This mechanic is jumping *as* your back wheels hit the floor and does not restore your flip the same way, since you are jumping off a surface you are limited to the 1.25-1.45 second double jump/dodge timer. However, it's still somewhat old at about 2 years since it is based off of the "Sonic Flip" mechanic that is mentioned in the video.
Holy, I'm so glad this popped up on my feed. I saw a lot of pros doing this during salt mine 3, mostly after goals when they're launched by the goal explosion, but still I really wanted to learn how to do it. Thanks!
Lol Yeah cool... cuz im sure you watched my games... i may have exaggerated with many times but its happened at least 5 times this past year but didnt know what was happening. But thanks for the load of confidence . Yall sound bitter af
@@LearningBirdy i mean, its not mechanical intensive.. Anyone could totaly have done it on accident without thinking about it, or even thinking of it as useful. All you have to do is land a bit off and then time a jump, this could easily be done by accident if you were just trying to jump
Awesome video, perfectly explained! For the Halflip into Sonic Flip: You can get a landing that is more suitable for the Sonic Flip if you use tornado spin, instead of regular Air Roll Left/Right :)
bro i have no idea how this came in my recommended but im so thankful it did, you need more recognition, definitely telling my friends to check you out.
Yep, this is for sure an absolutely revolutionary mechanic. You mention it being applicable in about 1/3 of landings... I don't know how much calculation went into that estimate, but after playing around in freeplay with this in mind, I think this can be usefully incorporated in the vast majority of landings at the high SSL/pro level. Even if not used, the player will very likely have to make a decision on whether or not to use it. There are just so, so many situations for which this mechanic is applicable. Great work.
That's great, before that I could only mess up the landings where I still had my flip by attempting to wavedash, now I can also mess up all the other landings!
Nice job popularising this! I have accidentally done this landing wavedash thingy many times in freeplay, but always thought it was discovered due to sonic flip as you mentioned, and double wave dash, as well as curve dashes
This is the type of thing I'm sure so many of us have seen accidentally (probably failed the dash and span out) and thought the game just weirded out. So sick to figure it out and realise it's potential!
If you can get consistend with it, Like 100% on halfflips, speedflips, landings, etc, that could actually revolutianize rl recovery mechanics, especially in Like SSl and pro lvl
Whenever I scuffed my landing and had things like this, I always thought these weren't explored enough. I could only find this kind of thing for 180s, but freestylers would do it slowly and boost during the whole move, making it just a stylish drift instead of something useful.
idk if anyone else has said anything, but i find if you delay your flip for the half flip, so that your car has rotated about probably 25-30 ish degrees, it made the wavedqsh after q lot easier, at leasr ofr me
something ive done a couple of years ago with this mechanic: if u dont use the second flip to wavedash, u can transform the landing into an instant liftoff again which makes it very hard to read. For example when u want to turn a bounce dribble into an air dribble. I still have the clip its very hard to explain but its based on this mechanic.
this is another one of those things that people did but only when we got lucky because it wasn't known how it actually worked. Now it can be done consistently thanks rocket science
I think this also works for sideflipping in a wave dash. Where if you land one side offset from the other (rolled to the side instead of forward), and add in some turning inputs, you can get that same velocity increase but in a more diagonal direction. Perhaps not as efficient (and maybe more difficult), but a while ago i did this on accident and got a goal from it but couldnt consistently recreate it. I guess now I gotta go try :D Thanks HalfwayDead! Im bout to be so heccin zoomy
Didn't try, just a guess before the video is published: You land on the front wheels and let them bonce up (after all wheels touch the ground for a split second) hold back to pull them up and dodge forward again. I think the angle has to be very specific
Hey man, when you go off the wall, you can use the curve to wavedash aswell. Which is quicker than jumping off the wall. Just press jump when your frontwheels are pushed in all the way at the curve, and you'll wavedash! You can also use this in the vertical corners. Really easy!
I tried this and I don’t think you need to wave dash at all. There’s like a perfect sweet spot where if you hit it quick enough before your back wheels touch the floor you get the boost.
There is a console (F6) command "sv_replay_snapshot_take putsomenamehere" then when you're in custom training creation you need to first load one shot or it's not gonna work, then go back to the shot list and put "sv_replay_snapshot_paste thenameyouputhere". Unfortunately this won't copy the starting speed, which is why I had to look at the numbers manually and set the speed through the variance section of the mod.
I've been working on this for a while ever since I picked up the speed-flip, it's honestly easier to start a chain dash this way than just single jumping (and of course you accelerate much quicker). Most of the time I do it on low boost and use different wave dash directions to pick up a lot of small pads quickly. I genuinely thought everyone was doing this at a high level lol I guess that explains why I've rocketed from mid-GC to low SSL in just the few weeks I've been pulling it off cleanly. The efficiency boost-wise is unreal, even with the busted ass, stick drifting DS4 controller I'm using.
I think the one extra thing you could've discussed was different difficulty with car body types (is it easier with shorter or longer car etc) other than that excellent vid :)
Super impressive research and analysis, and a useful and cool new mechanical skill. BUT, there’s one point that people seem to ignore when talking about mechanics like this: the mental overhead required to pull off a highly advanced mechanic. Yes, it can become muscle memory, but to me, decision making at this high level is more important. That extra second you’re taking to concentrate on nailing an intense mechanic, to save fractions of a second or a dozen or so boost, could be better spent thinking about the route you’re taking, the position you should be in, or mapping where all players are on the field to buy time or make a play. Rocket league is a super fast pace game at high levels, and overall I think simpler is better. Turbo exemplified this over and over again. KISS.
This has the potential to be a game changer
This will change rlcs
Also love the vids bro
@@driveonthestraightpath2138 an it’s prolly gonna be one of those mechanics that pros don’t utilize
@@jayta3776 ye it is cuz pros then recoveries become fastee
Yes imagine this mechanic back to back to back with no boost.
The element of surprise for HalfwayDead isn't much of an advantage because when you get into a 1s game with him you always know he's gonna pull some bullshit you've never seen before.
Experience? Lol
@@transbianyan Naw just going by his videos lol
Bruh
Imagine if he just kept these mechanics to himself and became goated
He didn't even the mechanic
I've been doing this for over a year and I'm still the same rank. Cries.
Imagine if he collected all of these and joined rlcs
@@Wsxzm- you and pletsko's vocabulary actually hurt my soul a little
@@SrBiggus actually true hahahah.
Every Rocket Science video I'm prepared for something that's gonna revolutionize my gameplay but then it turns out I'm too bad to implement it... but this time will surely be different lmaooo
good luck
Hhahaha, same!
5 months later any update?
@@NattyGainz I'm bad at this game ROFL. Tried it for 3 days and then gave up and honestly forgot about it until now. Next video though. Gonna be a game changer once I implement it
@@MrLargeHimself yeah I just started practicing it. Its hard!
How are you just gonna keep coming up with these wild mechanics
Dude i dont know
This mechanic is like 2 years old, it was called a heljump
@@static2634 Wasnt the heljump this really slow aerial with a not expiring flip?
@@cilious670 the heljump was this mechanic without the wavedash. So instead of wavedashing, you kept your flip while aerialing
@@static2634 @ItzSpritz
Not correct. The "HelJump" is a separate behavior entirely. The HelJump requires you to have a double jump stored and to use said double jump *before* your back wheels touch the ground. This can cause your front wheels to lift *and* will reset your ability to dodge without jumping off the surface. This mechanic is jumping *as* your back wheels hit the floor and does not restore your flip the same way, since you are jumping off a surface you are limited to the 1.25-1.45 second double jump/dodge timer.
However, it's still somewhat old at about 2 years since it is based off of the "Sonic Flip" mechanic that is mentioned in the video.
Holy, I'm so glad this popped up on my feed. I saw a lot of pros doing this during salt mine 3, mostly after goals when they're launched by the goal explosion, but still I really wanted to learn how to do it. Thanks!
Gonna do a short 1-2 hour just for fun stream after the premiere at www.twitch.tv/halfwaydead Come and hang out if you want to :)
Great vid thx
Do i need to use this hitbox or can i also use octane?
Ive done this on accident many times but im glad to know how to do it consistently now :) awesome video as always , super solid :)
sure m8
I can guarantee you’ve never done that
Lol Yeah cool... cuz im sure you watched my games... i may have exaggerated with many times but its happened at least 5 times this past year but didnt know what was happening. But thanks for the load of confidence . Yall sound bitter af
@@LearningBirdy i mean, its not mechanical intensive.. Anyone could totaly have done it on accident without thinking about it, or even thinking of it as useful.
All you have to do is land a bit off and then time a jump, this could easily be done by accident if you were just trying to jump
@@meeker810 you're champ 1 max
This was indeed a game changer, the zap dash :)
Awesome video, perfectly explained!
For the Halflip into Sonic Flip: You can get a landing that is more suitable for the Sonic Flip if you use tornado spin, instead of regular Air Roll Left/Right :)
That choice of music 😍😍😍
👀
It's actually inasne to me how 6 years later shit still get's discovered, amazing, thank you for sharing
Just think about it, how many cool tricks hasn't been discovered yet.
Ayyy thanks for using our tune with Protostar! :D
bro i have no idea how this came in my recommended but im so thankful it did, you need more recognition, definitely telling my friends to check you out.
Yep, this is for sure an absolutely revolutionary mechanic. You mention it being applicable in about 1/3 of landings... I don't know how much calculation went into that estimate, but after playing around in freeplay with this in mind, I think this can be usefully incorporated in the vast majority of landings at the high SSL/pro level. Even if not used, the player will very likely have to make a decision on whether or not to use it. There are just so, so many situations for which this mechanic is applicable.
Great work.
That's great, before that I could only mess up the landings where I still had my flip by attempting to wavedash, now I can also mess up all the other landings!
lol
how this guys still below 100k subs. like this is mindblowing
You are a savant. Thank you for bringing such a scientific approach to the game, it really makes it easier to learn when you explain the physics.
The level of observance in this video is extremely impressive
Nice job popularising this! I have accidentally done this landing wavedash thingy many times in freeplay, but always thought it was discovered due to sonic flip as you mentioned, and double wave dash, as well as curve dashes
This guy deserves to be on the list of RL youtubers with 1million+ subs
The quality of this video is immaculate! Subbed, excited for more :)
This could get insane. I love how there are still so many mechanics to be discovered
Genuinely good video
Incredible that this has been found. Great work, I can’t imagine finding anything like this.
I love all your videos, but this is the best one yet. Cinematography is way better and you sound more enthusiastic. Thank you for the awesome video!
This mechanic is very helpful.
I LITERALLY was able to do it first try and it gets you a lot of speed on your landings really easily
this is the turning point in rocket league. when THESE kinds of videos are made
This is the type of thing I'm sure so many of us have seen accidentally (probably failed the dash and span out) and thought the game just weirded out. So sick to figure it out and realise it's potential!
Man I think this mechanic is going to be great in 1v1 games for recoveries or just getting to the ball faster, great video rocket science!
If you can get consistend with it, Like 100% on halfflips, speedflips, landings, etc, that could actually revolutianize rl recovery mechanics, especially in Like SSl and pro lvl
@@sebastiangnielsen3538 True, I've started practicing it today and I'm getting better.
3 years later and it's the zap dash, nice
facts
This channel is so good... One of the best channels for competitive players!
Adding this to my list of tricks
the return of the king!
Whenever I scuffed my landing and had things like this, I always thought these weren't explored enough. I could only find this kind of thing for 180s, but freestylers would do it slowly and boost during the whole move, making it just a stylish drift instead of something useful.
amazing vidio, i love how explain every aspec of it and everything
idk if anyone else has said anything, but i find if you delay your flip for the half flip, so that your car has rotated about probably 25-30 ish degrees, it made the wavedqsh after q lot easier, at leasr ofr me
something ive done a couple of years ago with this mechanic: if u dont use the second flip to wavedash, u can transform the landing into an instant liftoff again which makes it very hard to read. For example when u want to turn a bounce dribble into an air dribble. I still have the clip its very hard to explain but its based on this mechanic.
Gonna be a new meta for sure.
Everyone should use your creator code;)
this video will make this become meta guaranteed
Rocket science is the definition of quality
I started to accidentally do these wavedash landings on the past week or two. Couldn’t figure out how to purposely reproduce, thanks for the video!
This is a game changer! Well done!
Even AppJack doesn't do this yet!
Although im pretty sure that the wavedash kivkoff form Apperantlyjack is faster than his version
@@lukas__2380 You're only thinking about kickoffs? Cake. Bye. lmao
I love your content. Commenting for the algorithm
this is another one of those things that people did but only when we got lucky because it wasn't known how it actually worked. Now it can be done consistently thanks rocket science
Finally I waited for this tutorial, I haven't managed to get it right yet hopefully this will help
This is awesome, Thanks.
This gives me a sick kickoff idea
I think this also works for sideflipping in a wave dash. Where if you land one side offset from the other (rolled to the side instead of forward), and add in some turning inputs, you can get that same velocity increase but in a more diagonal direction. Perhaps not as efficient (and maybe more difficult), but a while ago i did this on accident and got a goal from it but couldnt consistently recreate it. I guess now I gotta go try :D Thanks HalfwayDead! Im bout to be so heccin zoomy
I think this could possibly be game changing
Crazy video like always!
Ik rocket league is just a video game, but u make it seem like its a whole other world of psychics lol
Great job!
Ksailen just made it After a musty seems really really good thx dude
I always do the first part of these by accident which ends up making me double jump. Glad to know I can do something with these scuffs
Didn't try, just a guess before the video is published:
You land on the front wheels and let them bonce up (after all wheels touch the ground for a split second) hold back to pull them up and dodge forward again.
I think the angle has to be very specific
ye im thinking the same, kinda like a curve dash withouth the curve
👁👁
This is phenomenal. Thank you. Ill start learning it immediately
Hey man, when you go off the wall, you can use the curve to wavedash aswell. Which is quicker than jumping off the wall. Just press jump when your frontwheels are pushed in all the way at the curve, and you'll wavedash! You can also use this in the vertical corners. Really easy!
feels like this might be a trap and you already know, but he did make a video about this mechanic
Love the detail in these videos!
whoa this is huge
Lol was machst du denn hier? XD
I cannot wait for the other banger videos he had planned
your Endo looks super clean!
this will for sure be part of the future meta.
Rocket league has such a deep and interesting psychics engine and one will wonder if anyone will ever fully master its' mechanics
4:57 hello! How did u copy the shot? Ball car position velocity etc?? Thanks
Nice work as always
My dude is underrated.
I tried this and I don’t think you need to wave dash at all. There’s like a perfect sweet spot where if you hit it quick enough before your back wheels touch the floor you get the boost.
Its like the sonic dash but you dont start with front flip but landing from aerial. And yeha now i understand how to do a sonic dash. Thank you xd
out of a wall wavedash (when the curve from the ground to the wall "eats" your flick) it is pretty easy to apply this as well
Look at his second newest video curve dashing
Bro your soooo underrated and I’m tilted bc of it
4:55 how can you copy shots from replays to a pack? I wanted that feature for years D:
^ This. Besides manually doing it, is there a bakkesmod plugin for it?
There is a console (F6) command "sv_replay_snapshot_take putsomenamehere" then when you're in custom training creation you need to first load one shot or it's not gonna work, then go back to the shot list and put "sv_replay_snapshot_paste thenameyouputhere". Unfortunately this won't copy the starting speed, which is why I had to look at the numbers manually and set the speed through the variance section of the mod.
Could you make a video on this specifically?
I've been working on this for a while ever since I picked up the speed-flip, it's honestly easier to start a chain dash this way than just single jumping (and of course you accelerate much quicker). Most of the time I do it on low boost and use different wave dash directions to pick up a lot of small pads quickly. I genuinely thought everyone was doing this at a high level lol I guess that explains why I've rocketed from mid-GC to low SSL in just the few weeks I've been pulling it off cleanly. The efficiency boost-wise is unreal, even with the busted ass, stick drifting DS4 controller I'm using.
Amazing videos. I think it would be super sick if you broke down the speed flip in this same way !
My Brain: I have .47 seconds to hit the ball at a 62 degree angle to hit it into net
My Hands: We do the flippy flip to the bally ball
*Misses net*
speed flip to sonic flip on the ceiling to a tripe flip reset to an air dribble to open net miss
All that for nothing
Wow what a high quality video!
thanks, definitely gonna try to learn this mechanic!
Can’t wait to learn this when I get back home :)
I believe the halfflip into wavedashe could be easier if the halfflip is done with air roll right or left instead of regular air roll
I think the one extra thing you could've discussed was different difficulty with car body types (is it easier with shorter or longer car etc) other than that excellent vid :)
That half flip hack is gonna be super fucking helpful
I’m impressed. Like super impressed
This guy is cracked
I'm going to have to try this!
Hey dude, can you show a the controller inputs on screen with these types of vids? Would be really helpful.
Super impressive research and analysis, and a useful and cool new mechanical skill. BUT, there’s one point that people seem to ignore when talking about mechanics like this: the mental overhead required to pull off a highly advanced mechanic.
Yes, it can become muscle memory, but to me, decision making at this high level is more important. That extra second you’re taking to concentrate on nailing an intense mechanic, to save fractions of a second or a dozen or so boost, could be better spent thinking about the route you’re taking, the position you should be in, or mapping where all players are on the field to buy time or make a play.
Rocket league is a super fast pace game at high levels, and overall I think simpler is better. Turbo exemplified this over and over again. KISS.
I don't know what i watched but i liked it a lot.
dude it's so funny bc even if this mechanics are hard they still make sense to us but new rl players will be so confused xD
I'm playing without boost this will be some useful stuff. 👌
guess we both learned this at the same time. Starting to get consistent at it in SSL lobbies.
3:41
bottom right
you wouldn't believe you difficult it is to do this at 5% speed if you're only practiced it in reatime
ok but are you actually discovering all this on kbm!? that deserves mad respect ngl
Aye I made it is the video @ 2:44 lets goooo
Big brain video
This is revolutionary
love your content
Man knows what’s up with the ends, not my main car, buts it’s 2nd
3:42 has a tiny secret message in the bottom right
“you wouldn’t believe how difficult it is to do this at 5% if you have only practised it in real time”
Awesome!!!!!!
This is big. Imo it'll become the most common move in pro leagues in a year