The Playerbase Is Leaving Tekken 8
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Tekken 8 is in a rough spot despite the return of its most iconic character. Poor balancing, forced 50/50's, micro-transactions, lack of content over the years and crazy DLC characters are starting to turn people off what was once the most respected fighting game around.
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Whilst I'm still enjoying myself more than I'm getting annoyed, I think it's important to be objective about these things rather than shilling for your favourite game. Tekken 8 might be my favourite current fighter but it's not without it's issues and the general consensus shouldn't ignored. That's how you create an echo chamber just because it's the game you're playing.
Edit: I think people think I'm solely talking about myself rather than reflecting the thoughts of players from Twitter 😅😅 oh well. Seems like a good discussion anyway.
I still enjoy this game more than any other at the moment but it's so damn concerning looking at some changes or things they will do to legacy characters for the sake of "easier access". Tekken 8 with a nerfed S tier roster would be a very balanced game however and I think besides the top 5 or so characters being really unfun to play against because of their unfair nature, the game is really enjoyable. Even within S tiers, there can be fun to had. I enjoy the Dragunov matchup but I imagine it's because I play Kazuya. Fighting a Yoshi or Nina feels so suffocating however.
The game lacks dynamism. It all boil downs to if you can engage heat while stopping other player heat play. Every round. Every time.
You free for a match anytime?
I can really tell how much you care by this video. This isn't even bashing Tekken 8, its more of just disappointment and worry. You just hate to see what its become.
Man, sorry, but I can see that you have a "Tekken 7 blindness". You see, many people lliked T7 on first two seasons so much, they became blind to problems that were already in place and just moved on to T8.
It's NOT the heat system that breaks Tekken. It's a poor balance and favoritism in one. Azucena does not become 50/50 monster in Heat, Yoshi does not get free + frames, Steve does not get crazy range. There are characters that still can be counterplayed even in Heat.
But there are characters that are just absurdly powerful in heat, yes. But you know what? They are also dominating and forcing mixups on you even without Heat. And you know what else? THEY DID THE SAME IN T7! Feng, Jin, Drag... they were already no-brainers in the end of T7 cycle. And so were some other chars, I suppose if you think about it, you'll find them yourself.
So no, it's not a Heat system problem. It's a problem of Bamco not wanting to nerf poster-boys and very popular characters. Because that may hurt merchendise sales. And Bandai makes more profit from merch than from the game itself.
This game dies and comes back every 3 months
Just like the mishimas
Exactly
Isn't that every fighting game tho
@@rawrdino7046 no look at dnf duel doa etc
@@rawrdino7046that’s what I think too. When things get too stale people leave then the devs add a huge update and then they all come back again
Ngl them doubling down on stance mix up approach is HELLA concerning.
Now I don't know how they will treat Lei Wulong now that they basically messed with heihachi
i get why people are annoyed and that this approach looks repetitive but, ngl, i get i get it, its the easiest and safest way to add shit to a character without overcrowding a moveset or giving too many tools to a character, oh you want a mid electric or a untechable weak grab? How do we give this to heihachi without making him op or doubling on moves we already have? Just lock them behind a stance, while it a lot more common in T8 its nothing we haven't seen before in tekken
I think lei might be sent in the Yoshi direction where they don't get crazy plus frames and forced mixups but his combo damage with that evasion might be really high. He already had great combo damage in Tekken 7 too
Heat Killed this game for me, as soon as me and my opponent dont have it, its like my headache goes away
the forced 50/50 in this game is insane
Every single Asuka :
OKORODE->DORYYYYAAAA->50/50 mixup.
Thankfully you can at least attempt to step it now.
@@LightWavess being able to step heat is like taking an off-brand aspirin for a massive migraine, it helps a bit
@@LightWavessEmphasis on "attempt"
@ggmasterguiltygear6315 that's a big ass if you can sidestep if sidestep wanna work
Heat is too strong, too much stance based and 50/50 situations ^^
The fact there is no tournament online mode and infinite rematch is killing me...
This game is still 90% for casuals who are not even here anymore
Is it worth getting? I haven't been die hard on Tekken since I first played *Tekken 6* and it sucks seein' one of my favorite games is apparently not as good as it used to be
@@DJace3000 T7 is better
And you will have much more fun
Except against stupid marduke
@@DJace3000 Yes try tekken 7 the complete edition is cheap now it's better than paying full price for a beta tekken 8 made for casuals ^^
Hey, I've been hearing a lot about 50/50 situations and heavily-reliant on stance-based moves (or fighting? is that the word?). I know Mike touched upon these very briefly but only really explains how it just "feels" bad or wrong to older and pro players. Could you elaborate a bit more on those two points? Heat, meh.
Tekken 8 is painful for anyone who took time to get good and develop patience in previous games. What can be considered optimal play in T8 would have literally got you killed by a good player in T7
Yep sadly i cant back up fast enough and everyones moves hit from halfway across the screen
Yes. This is very discouraging. I have spent a lot of time to honing legacy core fundamental Tekken skills in T6 TTT2 and T7, but now any of that goes out the window because of this current system. It really feels like a casino mobile game sometimes. This is not good, it has less depth than T7. T7 had a stimulating environment and subsequent motivation to get better at the game and feel good and proud while doing it, this game gets boring more quickly. Altough it does look and feel very nice, it lacks a lot compared to other titles.
Exactly!!!!! And hearing adapt is the most frustrating thing when certain characters fit Tekken 8 more so than others. King isn’t the same king from 7 nor is law or Kazuya.
From someone who decided to put some time in a Tekken game it was in Tekken 7 but not on release but after it went on discount and Tekken8 is the first Tekken game i have preordered and put more serious time and focus into and yes, it’s true.
In Tekken 7 i would get destroy 99% of the time, I’m someone that comes from the MK kommunity that play Mortal Kombat games all my life that decided to go in Tekken 7 online rank and i was not competive at all, i did try but i was overwhelmed, destroy. I have experience in fighting games and I’m a competive person in fighting games and most games and in everything i do but yea In Tekken8, I’m doing ok for myself. While in Tekken 7 I didn’t do ok for myself as I hardly won in online rank and even the COM felt difficult, especially the boss fight. Anyway, Well Tekken8 since release I been focus on it in trying improve my skills and rank up.
I’m in assailant rank, tho now I’m getting match up with players that are out of my league that are 6-10 ranks avobe me! Crazy. Been fighting in a row back to back against Mighty ruler and Battle ruler players and i feel like I’m in Tekken 7 ranked lol
. You know because the rank and skill gap from Assailant to Battle ruler is a big gap in the ranks. But y’all not wrong, that in Tekken8 there’s been some changes where new players can have a better experience in learning and playing than the previous games which are very very competive and hard. Tekken8 is also competive, but it’s been water down a bit with the rage art system and what not.
Constantly hearing low skilled players telling you to git gut when most of them won't even be around playing this game 5yrs from now is hilarious. The devs ruined the series for them and now they are getting back to COD and LOL
you gonna be playing this game 5 yrs from now? lol
@@rongill1234didn't fighting game player dedicated? i mean there's a 17 year old who have played sf5 for 10 years
It's just the fact that they brought back the most iconic character and then gave him Stance 5050s, installs, one round win gimmicks, removed, replaced or reworked some of his iconic tools in favor of some really cheap and stupid tools that feels like a spit in the face. Tekken 8 is still very fun to play and I enjoy it but you can't help and think this direction they are going isn't wildly concerning. They are overcasualizing very hard and you can see it with the design of Law and Jin from Tekken 7 to 8. While 7 was no great game either, I think 8 isn't amazing rainbows and sunshine as well. The movement is better but at the cost of strings and certain forced interactions, it feels pretty cheap.
I feel even the movement isn't all that great maybe even worse, backdashing in Tekken 7 looks like magic when compared to any sort of movement in Tekken 8. Sidestepping wasn't that great in 7 but doesn't feel all that better with moves tracking and realigning so much like Dragunov's B4,3 and Kazuya's df1,2.
It's a array of little things that makes t8 annoying on top of the heat system. Imagine taking a mean ass L and then you see the battle pass blinking in your face on the main screen. I feel like homelander when he was looking at his biopic 😂
The eye twitch and all lol
Lol
i dropped tekken after all the pluggers i had to deal with for months havent touched it since, its just not worth the trouble
No wayyy TTT2 is your favourite. Everyone sh*it's on that game but it's the game that got me into learning how to play Tekken properly. I think the game is super underrated. The endless combo combinations with different characters was amazing plus all the special throws and unique team combos like baek/hwo and kaz/jinpachi were straight 🔥.
It did have its problems for sure like too much damage and too many clone characters but the game was a treat to hardcore Tekken fans imo. Shame it failed tho but we got T7 after no it worked out.
2024 : T8 💀
Its so funny, cuz a month ago or smth i told a trainingbuddy of mine that, when they make heihachi a stance rushdown, i will uninstall. rip 400 hrs and 70 bucks
He already was rushdown and had a stance in 7, what were you thinking about?
@@aren5900 u know damnfuckingwell what im talking about here jesus
Same but think of it this way. You got 400hrs out of it, i think thats worth the 70bucks
clap 70 bucks
@@theanti-hypemonitor9079not to be that guy but hes right
I stopped because my main, King, has become unsatisfying to play. His gameplan was lobotomized, you don't have to condition opponents as much as you used to. Tracking throws, a 50/50 heat nuke, I don't feel like I'm engaging the opponent, I'm just rolling the dice and almost every character feels like that.
Well said. So many king mains just ignore how simplified they made him. And yer right it's not only him.
Tekken 8 feels like I have to play it just because I love Tekken and not because its fun. Specialy, the ranked. Its so boring. The reason Im playing T7 more than T8 is: 1. Infinite Rematches in Ranked, 2. While Tekken 8 Graphics are amazing it is not visually as clear as Tekken 7, 3. Everything has been dumbed down and nothing interests me to play Tekken anymore. There were so much just in terms of excutiin that I wanted to learn and was grinding it. I can do whatever I wanted to do in T7 but with avsolutely no skill in T8 and with there being nothing learn and improve, the game feels boring af
I don't find any matches on T7 how are you finding people? If the community decided to go back to T7 I wouldn't hesitate for 1 second
@@dontpetentertainment3450 I fi d 1 match in like 10 mins 😂. But I mostly 0lay it offli e with my brother
We as a community should all go back to T7 and even that because its the only old Tekken game with active servers.
I agree with all of your criticisms of the game, and they're some that I also share even though I find myself still very much enjoying the game. I do think you made an error in looking at Tekken 8's player statistics in a vacuum. If we're going by player statistics and retention and insinuating that Tekken 8 is dying, Tekken 7 never lived at all. That game's playerbase fell off a cliff a month after launch and steadily bled players over its lifetime. By comparison, Tekken 8 is doing far better, even with the bungled gameplay changes. I'm not saying this to negate any criticism, I'm only saying this because it's contextually important.
Also, I have to take things like this with a grain of salt because the Tekken playerbase is extremely fickle and it seems like the game dies and comes back to life every few months.
I wouldn't be worried about T8's future. T7 wasn't really in a good place untill year 3 or 4, not sure. I played the crap out of it from conole launch untill T8 came out. It'll be a rollercoaster ride for sure, but in the end we'll all have fun. And during those lull periods we got plenty of other stuff to play until something in T8 picks our intrest again.
the sad thing is this game will not get 7 to 8 years. Bandai Namco is in financial trouble and there are news reports that Bandai namco will slash support and development cost for many of its game including Tekken series.
@@yellowscarlightningscream8347well, let's hope things turn around quickly then.
Optimism. I love to see it
@@yellowscarlightningscream8347 That's complete BS
It should NOT be the norm for games to finally be in a good place YEARS later. We payed $70 -$100 PLUS Microtransactions AND BattlePass. I'm surely not gonna sit idlely waiting playing other games til it's fixed. I'm going to speak out on X to harada to fix the fucking game ASAP.
Well it went from 90% gameplay and 10% combos to 70% combos and 30% gameplay.
I just want a remake of T5DR.
I despise the fact they turned Bruce gay and a female and now they did the same with Heihachi, and then backtracked, effectively alienating the loyal fans for an uninterested playerbase
Tekken 5 literally had TOD's. Take them rose tinted glasses off.
I quit because it's unfun,and aggrevating...The balance is trash and for some reason getting up after a 5-10 sec combo is damn near impossible. I Rather mix salad with my arm behind my back before i get destroyed for doing the right options in the game.
I agree getting up safely against a higher level player is almost impossible and it's annoying. im at a point where winning isn't satisfying but losing is painful. No other fighting game grinds my gears like T8
Same here. Sidesteps, backdash and get up options all feel very bad what does feel dominating are 50/50s ans heat.
Bro, you dont know how badly I wish for DOA,VF, or Soulcal to popoff again. I think Tekken is getting a bit too comfortable since its the only 3d fighter on the market rn. And ill be honest, I think they need to fix the netcode/cheater/plugger and add a "low end pc" icon(similar to wifi for consoles) over balance atm. Im the same tho, usually a 30 minute session, then done for awhile.
I am one of those people who stopped playing completely. The game is just not fun, every character is 50/50 slot machine and no matter how many times I win or lose it always feels hollow. Tekken 8 is my first ever pre-order, I even bought a Hori controller just for this but now I barely touch the game.
I feel you, I plan on coming back but 50/50s should not be so common, they make the game less fun when they are everywhere.
What rank were you?
Tbf Hori controller is the only reason i still occasionally play this game
@@livingashtree1942that barely even matters in tekken 8 I get what he is saying, because every situation is more or less the same, so you get annoyed and bored then alot of the time even when you are winning it's with the same boring garbage. Pretty much everybody I played tekken with from tag2 and tekken 7 just stopped playing a couple of months into 8.
Does it feel... Mike Hollow?
Funny i got this post as soon as i finished a match. Heihachi is looking like he's about to be shambolic but i WILL play him. Unfortunately, it will be in mirror matches. I had tried to hop back into ranked matches but my goodness, the point distribution is god awful. And if you thought that win quitting was an issue in quick matches, imagine the player that wins by the skin of their teeth with points on the line. I stayed at Tekken King ultimately but i demoted twice. Felt like a waste of time. It wasn't even fun to do either. Camera shenanigans, off axis wall garbage, heat and rage. T7 was a clean balance of rage and classic tekken. Rage arts were odd but good for meeting that tournament hype standard. Now it's overdone. The install characters seems to be the prime design decision for the game. I believe that Fahku had a similar mechanic in T7. It's why I described him as T8 Bruce. I'm going to finish the video, of course, but two minutes in and everything is just true. Heat is doing too much. Fighting the same character over multiple players has me seeing the exact same strings because there are literally no answers to some things. When in doubt, you shouldnt have to power crush or dick jab. You shouldnt have to take damage when defending optimally. My only answer to beating your frames shouldnt be to trade. I've had one too many draws in this game but worse is that I have way too many hit trades. I remember back in the day, if i wanted to see a draw in tekken 3, id have to plan Yoshimitsu hara kiri.
Thank god Sparking Zero will be out soon. I play almost every fighting game so I'm not sweating too much but this gen has the even more casual GG game and casual Tekken. I just want my execution heavy game. It's why I got into a lot of these games. I started playing Mishima in the modern day due to electric execution. I will slave over DBZ, continue to slave over FFXIV, and periodically drop into Tekken. And TTT2 is one of my favorite Tekken games as well. AK and AO team for chef's kiss. Same with Lars and AK. God damn I miss my df2.
Bruh what tekken 6 df2 for lars us all um asking for lol
@@JoshuaEnerum-yt2il lol they could have changed something like df1+2 into his current df2 move and just made everyone use a universal rage art button or replace whatever ub1+2 does and make it the rage art for Lars. I truly don’t recall what that input does at the moment. But they did it to gut the character. And now, whenever I fight a Kazuya, I see him doing what I should be doing.
@@alexandermccalla5098 I be so jealous of Kaz mains lol
Guess I’m in the minority, I’m still having a blast!! Heat doesn’t bother me, we both have it and if you know it’s coming or after it’s activated you should know you have to slow the F*ck down and it does go away pretty quickly.
Facts these scrubs preach about how hard tekken (used to be) is complaining about not having a way to beat heat it’s like they themselves don’t even know what they want 😂 so it’s 100% a skill issue real gamers adapt
Oh God... i miss the Tekken 5 days in Ps2😢. I was 24 back then... Five guys in a different place every Saturday competing offline, obviously, and labbing and training all the other days. Pure competition. Can you imagine now, not playing against anyone but training your combos and your strategies for six days in row? That was fighting games back... especially Tekken.
The people that are calling hiehachi broken now are the same people that said Lidia is not overpowered when everyone was saying she seems busted , that indeed turned right as she's not that op or anything but I don't like the hypocrisy here
They went from free additional maps back to paid maps w the Heihachi update smh
i can already tell from the comments that most of y'all wasn't playing tekken seriously till 7 lmao. Y'all wouldn't have survived the Tekken 4-6 days if this is bullshit to y'all. "they've dumbed the characters down" my boy this is the same argument EVERY tekken is folks get butthurt because "omg this character is so dumbed down" like my boy when did y'all ever fight a Jin in damn tekken 7 lmao.
saying T5DR was bad is like sniffing paint and saying smoking is bad for you
@@StereoGrow tekken 5 dr is the balanced tekken ever, if we keep complaining like this i guess tekken is already dead since tekken 6 lol
I originally wrote out another comment but I think I was coming at it with the wrong priorities.
Tekken 8, and Tekken 7 in my opinion, leaned away from what made the franchise actually great. I think they are trying too hard to chase what has made other fighting games successful and they have lost the plot so much that they aren't even copying good things anymore, they are just riding trends.
We need to stop overhyping games in general. Hype can be really fun, but it also sets people up for disappointment and Tekken 8 feels like the tail end of what I felt was the most boring era of fighting games between 2015 to 2022. I know some people will disagree with me, but I was never coming from a place of hate when I said that.
The general direction of Tekken and ESPECIALLY Mortal Kombat has just been bad recently
Street Fighter 6 is definitely a return to form, but their microtransactional issues are still worth mentioning. Frankly it feels like Fighting Games poisoned themselves chasing the casual crowd too much and the result of that is a lot of the crap we see and hate in them nowadays whether we're talking Heat mechanics or microtransactions.
I will never forget the first time i got hit by a rage-art in T7, i was like What the Fuuuuck?
essentially a parry that disregards elbows knees lows throws and everything you can think of, and you can use it EVERY ROUND?.
I miss when a comeback was a comeback, now its just what it is, you get the other guy down to 20% and STILL you dont feel in control.
Back in T5 you literally had to work your ass of for a comeback, and it made it so much more rewarding.
Meh man, its lame.
I think there was 3 times while i ranked up to Kishin yesterday, where i got blown out completely by the heat system for all 3 consecutive rounds, guessing wrong on everything, plus frames everywhere and i watched the replays and just said at the end, "i learned nothing from that" Just guess correctly i guess lol.
EVERYONE IS LEAVING THE GAME!
*screenshot of 3 people thats top 0,01% players of the game*
i dunno seems like a flawed hypothesis
bro doesn't know what an exaggeration is
@@GetMerkedGREYYhe does. He just disagrees with it. Which is fine
I don't think that steam chart is a good sign.
point of no return?
For me personally, tekken 8 has promoted aggression too far. To be honest, I already felt like tekken 7 was a little too aggressive of a game, and then when I saw tekken 8’s introduction and the first thing Harada said about it was that aggression is the game’s key word, I was heavily disappointed.
Just like SF when the drive system was introduced, and MK when the Kameo system was introduced, people are just having a problem adapting. Tekken 7 is still out there (even tho the Internet always been shit with that game. In fact i don't know how many MFs had so much fun playing T7 on the net because the non rollback net code was TRASH) so you can always go back and play that. People seem to have wanted another 6-7 years of Tekken 7. And thats just not realistic. If thats what happened then people would simply complain about the game NOT changing. Its like these companies cant win for losing.
When Tekken 8 was first revealed EVERY BODY loved it. Then they stopped, then they loved it again when the first big patch happened, now they just hating it. It sucks to me because i actually like the game. But this is why i don't invest too much into fighting games. Because the "community" dictates too much. If I play FF7, Horizon, Wukong or whatever its self contained enjoyment. Fighting games pretty much rely on multiple people to stay alive and NOBODY likes ANYTHING long enough to stay optimistic for the bulk of the run. Im over it. And its because i seem to be the only one that likes the game and have faith in the company. My homies dont even care for it. But it IS what it IS. On to Metaphor Fantazio, something only I have to worry about liking. Lol
I feel like the liking only comes from thinking that the problems are over and the community takes some time and realises that there are still big problems with the game which is when the hate starts. Ultimately, it's always people feeling not so good about this game.
Honestly I'm not worried. I mean hell the team is already going above and beyond with the game and everyone is loving it. But I will say it is a little weird that people complained about death matches in T7. Now they want them back in T8? I know this ain't MK but it's pretty Shitbolic on the fans part 😂
Sup Mike. Agreed on every point! Additionally, one thing Harada doesnt realize is no matter what he does, fighting games in 2024 with super meters etc and many moves/setups per character, is that it will never be simple enough for casual players to stick around. But BACK IN THE DAY though, it was. Look at sf2 champion edition, and the early mortal kombats. Those were easy to get into as there were a few moves and very easy combos that last 2 seconds max. Casual players would stick around back in the early 90s for fighting games because of that, compared to 2024 where mk sf and tekken have TOO MANY mechanics, mixups, super moves and normal moves to learn hence why most casuals flock to easy shooters. So yeah, fighting games these days will never be simple so Haradas best bet is to cater for his real fan base and let casuals play against other casuals and button bash and have fun amongst themselves. Everyone's happy that way. ✅️
(Fighting games are too time consuming for even me as a tekken king. Learning a new character 'properly' is long enough, let alone a new game like mk1 2023, or even sf6 to a high level is long.)
I've said this before but I mainly played anime fighters before taking Tekken 7 seriously. Having to deal with Akuma wasn't as bad for me cos I'm used to having to hold a block strings, deal with 50/50s on repeat, fast combo starters etc. But taking a step back, I can see why the Tekken community at large hated this shit and Tekken 8 is like a doubling down of sorts. Whilst I enjoy Tekken 8 and mostly brush off the 50/50 stuff, it doesn't feel like how Tekken should be and I 100% understand the frustrations of the community. If you wanted to deal with 50/50s, you'd play Strive, BBCF or UNI. People come to Tekken for the 'slower' neutral based gameplay, with using pokes and movement correctly being rewarded. It's a shame because I feel Tekken 8 at it's core is a great game but heat is ruining the gameplay for so many people
I remember playing my first fighting game online. It was Mortal Kombat X and my internet was trash. As a result my opponent was awarded the win and I received a FATALITY for not having a good connection. I can only imagine what would have happened if I plugged on someone.
Also I'm doing a hail mary, the last dlc character will be strong but not overwhelming aka Lidia.
Make sense think about it, T7 dlc was P2W, that's a bad look so they decided to have 2 ringers (Eddy/Hachi) and then 2 strong but straightforward characters
"Tekken has the best music in the fighting game genre."
That's a wild opinion. I genuinely thought most people thought T8s music was pretty trash. But ive always been underwhelmed by tekken music, I think it lacks any unique identity.
I agree with most of all your other points tho.
Pretty sure he’s not referring only to T8
@@ViperGills The entire TK franchise musically is behind SF, KOF and GG. Not only behind but by very far. Not saying it is bad, but just much behind those 3.
I can only speak for myself with this statement, but as someone who has played Tekken since my childhood (since Tekken 4) I just feel like the magic that was present in the previous games just… isn’t there. I don’t hate the game, in fact I’ve had tons of fun playing the game in short bursts. But whenever I play the game with anybody who isn’t my friends, it’s just frustration and irritation, not because of one of the systems of the game, but the heat mechanic, plus the frustrating ranked system, plus the 90 thousand tier whoring players playing Dragunov just make it such a sour and frustrating experience. I’ve loved Tekken for years, but at this point, I just gotta call a spade a spade, and the spade is that Tekken just isn’t that fun right now. Maybe it’ll change, but personally, I’m just not enjoying it at the moment.
T7 was successful because of popular Akuma being base roster followed by dropping Noctis and Geese Howard.. season 2 started trickling in legacy characters then teasing us with Negan for a year.. then dropping Leroy and Fahk.. it was genius marketing, not the game play.. t7 after season 1 dropped was just as trash as t8 is now gameplay wise
Dawg, I try not to comment on your videos ever but like, this feels so close to rage bait lol. Jesus dude, every recommended video feels like the end of the world when I see a ton of tekken folks stoked for this update. Hei will be broken, we know that, it'll be annoying. But point of no return? Wth?
Edit: to be clear, tekken 8 is flawed, I'm not a shill. But God damn dude, I take bets every time I see a Mike Hollow video on what he's going to say and I tend to be right
The game isn't in the worst position yet. It's hard to argue since there is a good chunk of negativity surrounding it and little positive to bring up that would keep people invested.
We can talk about how rank is getting an adjustment that has been long asked for, or how some of the costumes are going to start going on sale. The arguement would be either "they should of been free in the first place, or it should of been that way at the start." Which has its place but simply writes off any possible progress that is showing.
We can talk about player accessibility bringing new players possibly but of course this threatens players who already have time invested (keep in mind this is someone who is against modern controls in fighting games but that's another discussion).
We can talk about how the story expansion is free but of course we have those who would point against how it hurts the lore.
Every choice this game has had positive or negative (minus nerfing Drag hopfully) has been met with negativity to an excessive level. It's no suprise Harada is mister "don't ask me for shit."
16:15 - The memories of that game.
Red move spam and my dumbass bought Premium tickets.
Bandai should've been dragged into international court for even considering that dumpster fire, let alone publishing it
@@law6800 Deadass, it was my first Tekken game- around the time microtransactions started pickin up steam.
Learned my lesson
@@Urbanboy732 The first Tekken game you played was Tekken Revolution
I think it’s just burnout. Maybe give Tekken a break? Come back to it later
For me, taking a break and coming back just reminds me how terrible playing this game feels.
I'm still having fun with T8. I definitely think Heat and certain characters need some reworks, but I still like playing. I recently picked up Azucena after she got nerfed and I'm having a blast. I understand people not liking Heihachi being a stance focused character though. I think after playing Raven and Asuka and now Azucena for a while, I think more of the characters should be around where maybe they are in terms of power. They have some clear strengths (like Raven's backturn options, Asuka's defensive tools to interrupt offense, or Azucena's long, linear mids) and clear weaknesses (Raven not launching until 16f, Asuka lackluster punishment before 14f, Azucena's very linear buttons outside of stance). Tone done the heat stuff and make some of the hitboxes and frame advantage situations less ridiculous and things will be a lot better. I don't plan on playing any other fighter than T8 and KI any time soon though. Not that they're bad, but I just don't have as much fun with any of the others.
In my opinion Raven is the only "winner" in T8, i really came to like what they did with him (Thankfully not "her")
I honestly recommend dowloading PPSP and T5DR, give it a swing against the AI or against a homie via Zerotier, you will shit your pants, it is sooooooooo good.
Even all the cosmetics were spot on.
I dont really notice any problems too since i play Asuka, Shaheen, Bryan. Asuka having bad neutral and pokes, Bryan having to rely on counter hits and big moves and Shaheen being a fundies character.
@@StereoGrow I've played every Tekken game. I get people saying they want to go back to 5, but I think a lot of people forget the blessings a lot of the characters have gotten over the years. The difference in power between the top characters in T5 vs the difference in power of characters in T8 is so vast, it's insane. So many characters feel absolutely awful or just poorly suited to the game itself while others like Steve or Devil Jin just eat their lunch for free. I don't think people remember just how BAD some characters were in older titles. They THINK they're tired of fighting Drag or Jin in 8, but I don't think they'd complain any less about the top tiers in 5 either, especially if they go back and find their favorite character was a bowl of dog water back in the day.
You like Rag-2 but dislike 8???
*GOKU!!! WIN!!!*
Dumb drama. This is every video game ever lmao. See you in a few months again nerds.
As long as I'm alive, I will always need Tekken in my life. I don't know what I would do without Tekken.
Cringe.... Sorry, I just can't 🤢
@@alainchristienemendoza9982 Don't worry about it sweetheart 💋
Uh oh . Trouble in paradise?
As a hei main, I am worried I won’t like him after seeing that trailer. He wont be able to play the same way he used to because of the way the game now works, and the new tools they gave him really don’t give that sense of impact in the same way his traditional moves do. I haven’t touched the game for a long while now because no one really gelled with me after the changes they made to the characters. I don’t think that I will even boot it up to try him until I see the game itself change. Glad to see him back, but I’m still not sold on the game itself.
I feel you. Beem playing yoshi since T3 to just drop him in t8 because I don't like the changes they made.
Mandem
Tekken 4 had mechanics that not many people liked (myself included) and because of that we got Tekken 5 after (my favourite Tekken). We might not be heard, but I believe that with constant feedback and constructive critics, maybe Tekken 8 can eventually get a proper balance that most players can enjoy, pros and casuals alike (you can`t make everyone happy, better aim for the majority). Remember how they changed Steve`s rage drive in T7 Season 2 and added a wall bouncing mechanic, maybe we can expect something like that in the future of Tekken 8.
Also, forgot to comment this on your previous video: Loved the Dragon Ball GT theme (quite fitting, since you mention Sparking Zero).
"The heat system has become Tekken." That sums it up perfectly. I try to play the game more like 7 while using heat and rage arts as part of combos as I can for the sake of fairness, but that's part of the problem. I think the experience changing isn't the worst thing in the world, in that I agree games should continue to evolve, somebody must have said in a meeting, people think that tekken is too hard after seeing Tekken 7. If this continues, fewer people will buy 8, and then people will lose interest in it. They want to innovate, and I can appreciate that. I also think that this desire to attract new players is not a bad thing. However, adding in a 2nd panic forced 50-50 move seems excessive in not judt its execution but in its scaling. Especially since the movesets have been simplified as well. If we can't get rid of it, then the scaling needs an adjustment. An overall damage nerf. I know it's a lot to ask for, and maybe the value would get too low, but then it could be fine-tuned. It would remain as a viable tool that can get you out of a jam, which was what they intended it to be, and no longer a crutch. At present, this crutch does 50% of the work in any given match, a two button press catch all. Heat dash was clearly created to help players appreciate the scale of the stages in a match, it's like how the infinite stages used to feel in the older games. I actually like stances. In fact, I wish the transitions into them were faster. On the flipside, I think some moves for stances should be buffed/nerfed. But that's a different matter for a different day.
Huh?????
I want a remastered and more balanced Tekken 5 DR, just give me that and I'm good for the next 10 years, I would also buy DLCs.
Tekken 8 on the other hands...not very fun, heat -> 50/50 -> GG, still like the game since Tekken is always Tekken but this specific game not a lot tbh.
I haven't played Tekken 8 since the last balance update patch. I plan to play to see the story mode to see what insanity they are gonna pull and then I don't plan on playing Tekken until I hear some big changes and overhauls are done. Because right now Tekken 8 overall gameplay loop just isn't fun to me.
I have EDF 6 to play, continue playing Sekiro and Elden Ring, I have osu, djmax and other rhytm games and I've even grabbed SF6 and marvel collection. I'm fine and can wait a year or two to see if they make changes to it
I'm a former heihachi main, and i've seen this miles away
I was coping that he will have FF2 nerf, they buffed it
i want db2 nerf they probably buffed it
Bring back old versions of OTGF from T4
They killed it
I didn't want braindead 50/50's they add stance mixups, Hellsweap that don't stagger probably without any execution, if they had added T4 hellsweap with just frames why not but i don't think the case
F4 on opponent on crouch launch just wtf
easy ws launcher 15 frames just wtf i was hoping they either delete ws 3, 1+2 or bring back hard pick up from tekken 7 season 3
I didn't want stupid gard break thing, they add one
Same for unbreackable throws
Yeah, no thanks i'm gonna stick to heihachi T7
Fuck T8 it's like T4 all over again, presentation is super cool
Gameplay wise it's trash tier.
Maybe tekken 9 will be the best in the franchise like T5DR is.
What we have here is the same situation Capcom had with Street Fighter 5. The V system is very similar to the Heat System in T8, which takes over the metabof the game and limits creativity. Yoshiro Ono was not listening to the concerns of the player base, and it backfired hard.
While I know people will vehemently disagree with any sort of positive take, I think the team has been very receptive of the community thus far. Even if they are definitely missing the plot with some of these design choices , patch 1.05 and even some of the changes in this coming upate are direct results of community feedback so I have faith.
It kind of sucks seeing a lot of people drop the game. This was my first fighting game I wanted to learn and get better in and was excited about heihachi coming back since he’s my favorite character. However, I do see everyone’s points and what they’re annoyed with in the game. Another great video as always brother❤
It pains me to say. I love Tekken. I've played 4 and 5 with my cousins every day. Played 6 with CPUs because online wasn't (and still isn't) good where I live. I couldn't get 7 due to financial reasons, and now that I got 8. I enjoy it. The problem is I still get connection does not meet conditions. I barely get ranked matches (It's ben 8 months now). They're literally doing merchandise that's crossover stuff (The glasses, the shirts, the shoes etc.) That just focuses on consuming merchandise rather than the game itself. Microtransaction is worse because you get bundles instead of separate stuff. The microtransaction literally removed the majority of customization (If you look at Tekken 6, you'll be blown away how much there is).
I like the game. There's just so much wrong with it. Heat feels awful to use, and finally feels fair when no one has heat. Using Heat is more like going into KaioKen for like 10 seconds.
Some are just better than others.
It feels like this game hasn’t even been out enough to be called “dead” like some thumbnails say. I stopped cuz I didn’t have playstation plus anymore and couldn’t play online, but I was still having fun with the game when I did. Didn’t know there was this rush of people leaving
Forced 50/50's are def what killed the game for me.. the whole heat into GL Guess is pretty lame.
But the stance cancelling being literally sped up to marvel vs capcom speed also was lame
I’m not completely sure what the aim here is, Tekken 8 is the most successful iteration of tekken because of the changes Tekken project has implemented thus far.
Specialty style ropes in the casual’s whenever they’re ready to take the training wheels off to start drilling the depth is there.
I remember There was a lot of talk around tekken needing “super moves” like street fighter after tekken 6 because casual players didn’t wanna have to get good grinding the input hours for execution, so they gave em rage arts
Heat has a decent amount of utility, comeback mechanic, combo extension, more creativity for death combos.
I think Harada out did himself with tekken 8, it’s fan service from this point putting highly requested legacy characters back on the roster, keeping great cosmetics in tekken shop an the battle pass that make players wanting to keep engaging with tekken.
In a world where fighters are dying out I’m glade there was a tekken 8 bottom line.
There's a lot of issue with Tekken 8 as a game itself, Tekken Prowess ruins your fun when you want to play other characters, Characters that need buffs are not getting the correct buffs, and characters that don't need buffs are still getting buffs. Overall just feel like tekken Dev team not listening to their players/audience.
In a wild and crazy way... LTG ended being right.
Don't get me wrong, the dude makes too many shambolic excuses (streamsniping in a fighting game?? Literal oxymoron) but in a bizarro way LTG was saying the same things about heat snd noob friendly features lol
T8 is the first Tekken I tried to learn. I expected it to be a difficult journey and I gave it all the time I could dedicate to it, which is limited (cos of family and work). It's been the only game I played for months, trying to get better, getting frustrated with the hope that the moment to feel confident would come and the effort would pay off. Then Wukong came out and I noticed how different I felt playing another game again. I was having fun with Wukong, feeling challenged and yet chilled. The idea of playing Tekken again alienated me and I stopped playing it.
I realised the amount of frustration wasn't worth the very little fun I had with that game.
I can't exactly break down the reasons why, but I think it's cos of the things you mention here. As a new player I don't feel Tekken 8 welcomes players like me. It's merciless and alienating. I also don't like the average Tekken player, they play a way which is functional, exploitative, but not fun for their opponents, there's rarely any sportsmanship. In short I feel I'm being trolled by the developers of the game and its large player base. So I'm probably done with Tekken and fighting games in general cos I'm sick of mechanics like juggling, rage arts and rush downs. The fighting game I still enjoy is Sifu, but the 2-player fighting game I'd like to play still has to be created.
Will I play Tekken 8 again? Probably occasionally. I don't want to forget the things I've learned. It was such an investment of time and energy, but other than that I want to gradually detox from it, get it out of my head, abandon the idea I have to get anywhere, learn this or that or even get better. It wasn't a healthy mindset for a game that demands more than it gives.
I used to play Tekken 7 at least 3 hours per day. Tekken 8 i play 1 hour a week just to maintain my skill level. Its exactly as you describe i think about turning Tekken 8 on but then i just immediately think to myself there are more fun and rewarding games to play. Soo i just play Monsterhunter. Theres no pull factor for me for Tekken 8. Im one pay check away from buying Streetfighter 6.
T8 brought people in by being simplified (not referring to special style)
Should T8 get more complicated similar to 7 and risk alienating the new fan base?
Also ngl I'm looking forward to Heihachi and him being dumbed down works in my favor. I can also understand how that pisses people off, just remember overall how T8 is
Im honestly not sticking around this game doesn't reward skills techniques or patience it rewards brainless mashing and get out of jail free buttons and before you say ur probably just bad im bushin with steve the game simple its fun anymore and just overall exhausting
Tekken 7: 842.5 Hours
Tekken 8: 38.8 Hours
the numbers dont lie, tekken 8 isn't as good.
correct they don't tekken 7 came out 7 years ago and tekken 8 came out 8 months ago
@@rongill1234 Dont think you did the math on your sassy comment there.
he should be having 70-80 hours by now
@@rongill1234 ignoring the fact there's a time where you put any game down, tekken 7 was released 87 months ago. If we are accounting for every month, that's 842.5/87= 9.68 hours per month. This is the most generous I can be with a monthly total as it pertains to your argument.
As you note, Tekken 8 was released 8 months ago. 38.8 / 8 = 4.85 hours per month.
Please let me know if you need any more assistance with math.
@@TheUncutAngel lol the salt is real
@@rongill1234 not sure what you're talking about, but then again neither do you.
My few cents in that discussion...
I think game lacks few different aspects that were enjoyed by many players.
First of all is a skill cealing in select characters. It was pushing people to learn their specific charcters more and more, not exactly game as a whole. Among obvious examples like mishimas are dss for law, shiro combos for steve and jin, iws3 pickups for leo and others. It is too easy to master characters if we compare it to their previos iterations.
Second of all there is kinda limited choice in unique gameplan and design for characters. For example there is literaly no poking heavy chars like kazumi. No true "im super unsafe at everything i do but rewarding af" like chloe. Everyone you pick feels the same to play. Yea, those characters were mostly unpopular, but they attracted people that enjoyed that specific thing and nothing else in the game. What are they going to play now?
Third point older characters were reworked so heavily, they dont resamble themselves anymore. Alisa was heavily poking oriented character with good movement but extremely low dmg. Kazuya had absolutely 0 neutural and was forced into defensive playstyle. Jin was execution heavy specialist character and so on. We all see how all ended up.
And most important peace for me is lack of diversity in character visual design. We dont have fatties like ganryu or bob. No "no fighting style" like miguel. No towering terrifying powerfull mostrous but sluggush menace like true ogre or gigas. No dirty fighting bastards like negan. Even hated 2ds like eliza were bringing divercity. Now it feels like everyone are super fit agile athletes doing flips, spins, jumps and sumersaults. I realy miss gigas with his slow but power inducing moves like simple 1,2 packed such a serious punch. Or his ws3 that launched you so high like its class 1 launcher but balanced by his recovery.
For me and many other people who played t7 for atleast one of those reasons it feels like this game has nothing to offer. I still after nearly a year of trying every single character cant find one i truly enjoy playing. And all i see is "lets add another stance pressure character in a mix". how many we got already? A dosen?
T8 is still great game overall, actualy preety well balanced cast despite what people say, but that balance has come due to wrong reason of making everyone the same. Diversity is king. But monarch seems to haveleft the castle
It's the heat system ranked and balance. While not everyone needs to be top tier the characters should be usable. Heat needs to go just give back rage drives and ranked is beyond horrible. From plugging to screenshoting to 1 and dones, it's just insane. Movement feels worse as well, especially sidestep. They also keep taking away all the actual gameplay and putting it in 1 button. Where's the combo variety too like i love heihachi's double otgf. There's no more satisfaction in trying to learn anything hard in Tekken. That's why the game is plagued with Drag feng and Victor. The ease of use and payoff is too high. Why would I continue playing Azucena when I could struggle less and get more with drag ? (Granted, i advocated for Azucena nerfs, but i think it was too much) It doesn't feel good trying to learn a character when your character is patch note based.(meaning you rely upon patch notes to ensure your character is usable or not)
I think T8 frustrates high level players more is, it seems no matter how competent you can be, you can never guarantee a victory. Even I'm able to occasionally take a round off a Garyu(I'm Eliminator) and no doubt that's part my own skill, my character, but mostly T8s mechanics.
Personally speaking playing a game in which the outcome is already pre ordained is meh but to each their own
16:55 FACTS. You make some good points. Listen, I wanna like tekken 8, I do, & this “nostalgia” narrative about tekken 7 or how it was “stale” is just down right false. I played it the other day & other than graphic fidelity & load times, it’s the better experience. Heat should be a once per match thing & remove all heat engagers from power crushes. Remove chip. Let us play & let the better play be REWARDED. As for the roster, heihachi does nothing for most of us & there’s still no boss character playable like jinpachi or devil kazumi or guest like akuma. Netcode is still laggy with 80-90 ms being the norm & crossplay has so many rollback frames that STILL need to be addressed. Harada blocking ppl for asking about a character returning in conjunction with nothing being done about mass cheaters / plugger points isn’t helping either. Players are just tired man, the games mentally exhausting & tekken 7 in its first year was way more hype. It ain’t looking good, I’ll return when jinpachi or akuma comes. Y’all be safe. Much love mike
Do you know what's the biggest problem? Game developers think they're gods, and we can't complain bc "we dont understand"
The truth is tekken 8 still can be a great game, today it is just a good game with a terrible balance problem
Heat should be like a super bar filling as the match goes on (winning fills faster, losing slower)
Rage state is fine BUT rage arts should be the same way as the heat
(Or make it as a single bar like it was on 7 you choose what to do drive or art but like rage art uses the whole bar and heat uses only half) this is a simple idea but if implemented properly could work
But they think that new players are ignorant fools who only want to watch the game play for them, and that's why they added the assist combo button along with more heavy spam characters like hworang and ed
The only thing they need to do is stop listening to rich corporate who only want infinite money, and listen to the consumer who ACTUALLY has the power over the company since we have the money to spend on THEIR game
On a final note, they balanced the game to make heihachi the strongest when he drops, next tournament top 8 will be only heihachi
The game is just so miserable to play, but the devs just keep giving us Tekken Shop slop instead.
Not just Tekken but a lot of games should stop making games easier for thumbless players. I can understand that its for accessibility reasons but there are a lot of players having fun without doing all the learning required for harder games, just look at Kai Cenat fighting Melania or SF6 recent Sajam Slam where players admitted that they didnt even use training mode while others preached labbing everything, and i can safely assume all players had fun regardless. Heat probably isnt a good mechanic cause it removes the skill ceiling for those players who want higher level play and not to fight Xxjoebillybob-_- playing random
Tekken has always been the most enjoyable fighter for me but i just got tired of the increased cheesy/gimmicky situations and oversimplification of the gameplay.
Booted it up for the first time in a few months recently and played an incredibly average Kazuya. He went into heat and hit me with a 5x electric combo.
Didn’t know whether to laugh, cry or what.
Honesty i think tekken 8 is 50/50 rn i havent played tekkn in a while but thats because ive been playing other games like wukong plus Sparking zero fin to come out but i do understand the issues with the game, the game is still fun but i can see why hardcore players would quite
and that's a good thing. people shouldn't tolerate shitty designed cash grab that is tekken8.
OMG glasses collab, pls buy our game 😲
If everybody had to play by rules ala Kazuya, the game would be great. If every character just played with installs and endless stances, the game will collapse. It's making the same mistakes that Tag 2 did with obscene damage with behaviors that mirror tag assault against the wall loops.
It’s bizarre that even MK has a better ranked system in terms of dealing with one and dones and rage quitters. One and done-ing is rage quitting. Watered down but still
Hmm, from personal experience and some input from friends, I'm willing to bet a lot of the community are just fed up with the Tekken 8 expereince. So much shit to memorize, so many things to keep track of, such and obnoxious ranked experience. I think Tekken 8 is frustrating to its core with very very little payoff. At least in previous games, we had treasure battle and fight money to pick up a few cosmetics, but now we have the battle pass steamrolling the casual appeal of the cosmetics shop in Tekken 7. I'm guessing any casual player is going to quit at red ranks and switch over to another fighting game for their primary fighting game just because of how digestable it is compared to something like Tekken 8. If this is the issue, I really dont think there's anything the devs can do aside from make massive changes to things like the bloated movelist and reward system. Just taking a shot in the dark
All these forced 50/50s yall are complaining about started in t7.. yall giving that game so much credit.. It was good(minus akuma) until after season 1 and the pay to 1 dlc...
Another thing.. why do yall keep saying TTT2 was hard?? What was hard about it outside of having to learn 2 characters?
I just don't like heat and chip. Its just not Tekken. It is extremely frustrating to be punished for defence or being forced to eat mixups. That is not changing anytime soon though. I play once or twice a week because I can't let tekken go, but I'm not grinding this game.
I've only parted ways with the FG industry as a whole. I understand that seems a bit dramatic and it's not just on the games themselves - I just don't feel invested in fighting games anymore. Time to play games and really the list of games I want to dedicate that time to becomes shorter and shorter the older I get. I am not motivated by investing in long ranked grinds online just to have a pretty title. I'm not driven by constant season passes and additional payments that the games demand of me and put in my face from the moment I boot up the game.
I just want a game I play, finish, put down, and move on.
Its crazy to think alisa, nina, drag, feng, lili, xiouyu, or hwoarang mains scared to face heihachi. As if these mofos dont just break the gamr and demand their mixups 17 times a game
Im 100% gonna enjoy Heihachi if hes easier since I prefer easy to play characters. However if a character has historically required really good mechanics to use them succesfully then its really lame to dumb them down.
Tekken 7 was so much more enjoyable over the years for me personally, I really wish we could get a no heat mode and improvements to movement and some serious balancing of this coin flip style.
I stopped enjoying tekken 8 a while back but i'm just a regular guy. If content creators and pro players are finding issues then that's not good imo.
While I love watching tourneys and even went to one I don't play like i used to. T7 I never felt like this but T8 😢
Games the best it’s ever bin. I’ve bin playing since three. The fights are way more interesting to watch. If it goes back to dick jab dick jab. Death combo I’m done. I don’t know why the Tekken elitist love.
Been playing tekken 8 exclusively for months. Feels nice taking a break and chilling with chivalry 2 for a while. Once that new fight pass is out I'll come back but rn I'm just sick of the ranked grind
The reason I personally switched back to tekken 7 is because in a sense it feels more rewarding. Like yes, i have mastered this type of movement and setups and characters and what not and theres not that arbitrary one-button-roundstealer to take that away. people are gonna bring up akuma and geese and i have admit that i like fighting those characters more than playing tekken 8.
i can play t7 for hours on end but i cant bring myself to play more than a few sets of t8, part of that being due to the removal of deathmatches.
so basically: tekken 7 feels better because its harder and due to that more rewarding while tekken 8 values new players more than legacy players which takes away from the skill aspect. it just feels like every round is a heat simulator where its just a battle of who can use their heat the best. you landed a heat smash into wall combo? good job bro. heat dash into combo? good job bro, but it shouldnt deal that much damage.
and dont get me started on the whole 2 billion new stances and forced 50/50s. in tekken 7, forced 50/50s were a rather rare occurence happening (correct me if im wrong) mostly after rage drives (e.g. heihachi, kazuya, king), at the wall or in a wakeup situation although i wouldnt count those since if there is a wakeup involved than you have so many more groundplay options available to you.
now in tekken 8, every time drag presses the funny snk4 button or feng presses the heat 3+4 button i find myself in a situation that i dont deserve to be in since nothing i did wrong to end up in such a bad situation. essentially, i get punished for blocking which effectively erases the thing that makes fighting games appealing to me.
also rage arts are stupid but i probably dont have to go into why a once per round armor move than doesnt get beaten by lows and throws and does 60 damage (-15 btw since rage art needed buffs) is a little bit overtuned.
It’s a real thing and maybe that might explain why in the online rank I’m getting match up with players that are 6 to 10 ranks avobe me! Seriously.
And it’s not like before where sometimes you would get matched up with someone higher rank, but when that happens it would be with someone of only 3-4 ranks higher, not so out of line but now since yesterday when I got into online rank and Still today I been getting match up with players that are 10 ranks avobe me! I’m in Assaliant rank but I’m Getting put against people that are in Mighty ruler to Battle ruler rank! That’s 10 ranks avobe me.
Don’t get me wrong , it’s a good experience that i get the chance to test myself against players that are out of my league in the rankings, it gives me a lot of experience but it suck’s because it’s a high risk low reward, i lost to much points because i kept getting put against Mighty rulers in a row back to back, and i got devoted.
But we learn from it but i thought it was wierd that i kept getting match with people in those ranks! Maybe that’s the reason, and other reason, maybe my stats i don’t know, i highest win streak I had was 6 wins. Not much but something.
I’m stuck right now in Warrior and assailant, especially fighting against people in Mighty ruler and Battle ruler that i get match with and i get destroy, lol. I rage quit and deleted Tekken8 but i always installed it back hours later or inside a week I’m back again in Tekken8, as I’m trying to get better in my skills and level up in the ranks. Anyway I agree about the Tekken8 problem with pluggers, just give the points and take away points from pluggers. They should listen to you and others that been talking about that issue. Anyway , good video. I think that could be one of the reasons why I’m getting match up only with people 7-10 ranks avobe me, because many are leaving, and those who probably are stuck too. I’m still here trying to be ready for the next battle!
Hmm. I'll say at the end of the day. I hope tekken 8 turns into the tekken people (thank they want) and more people are..over all injoying the game at some point.
Tbh im not sure on the ratio of people who like the game vs ones who don't I just know the vocal are LOUD!! Always are with every new tekken, none of this new.
Personally. I'm still having a good time with tekken 8. And will continue to do so. Tell I guess I hit whatever wall so many others seem to be hitting?
Been through some dark times with tekken over the years played them all on their releases, played through all the good times and bad...And t8 ant one of them..
I'll remain..Unless it does a t7 and literally becomes unplayable at some point. 😅. Lol.
Also add. Mike.
In response to you saying if somone is okay with how t8 is, why are they watching this video. Well Mike the reason im watching your video is because you tend to have very solid and rational opinions. And regardless if I agree or not there tends to be a level...since/ rationality with your takes. Tbh this one was a bit more..less so and that doesn't change the fact I think ur a solid dude.
There was to much toxic positivity from top players and influencers, they acted like complete shills in most cases, what we have now is the game dying... if they dont turn it around and start being rly negative to developer the franchise will die. Ive been hating t8 since start, even though i was winning way more
I think if heat is going to be how it is now, they need to make it a 1 round use thing. To be honest though, I think it would be better if they just made heat less oppressive and gave players more control over when it activates. Then it could be a consistently available mechanic without being to much of a weight on the core Tekken gameplay.
Tekken, guilty gear, it's a shame there isn't a game from a long running franchise with great character designs deep, engaging legacy gameplay and tons of character variety. It's a shame that game doesn't exist and didn't come out in 2022 and have everyone's favorite guest character Terry bogard in it. Shame that game don't exist.
Arsenality was a joke anyway he cant just keep up with his content so he is bringing down the game.
Everyones are on transition state, we just have a hanged over from tekken7 gameplay.