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DIY ACOUSTIC PANELS - Best BASS TRAPS
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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Today I am showing you did the acoustic treatment in my studio. These easy acoustic panels are super effective and also double as the best bass traps for small studios. This is the cheapest acoustic treatment that actually works and helps to get a flat response in your room so you can get a mix that translates better. I hope you enjoy this step by step guide to DIY acoustic panels.
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Contents:
00:00 Intro
00:51 Before You Add Acoustic Treatment
02:02 The Basic Concept
03:06 Tools & Materials
05:52 Shopping List
06:06 Step 1: Make A Box
07:12 Step 2: Add Fabric Cover
07:56 Step 3: Add The Insulation
08:25 Step 4: Seal The Back
08:58 Step 5: Placement
09:30 Further Steps
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Hi Dilby, thanks so much for this information. Just building my studio as we speak. One question. You said three slabsof 40mm rockwool gave a total depth of 160mm. Am I missing something here as it should be 120mm.
Yeah, I should have said 4 slabs of rockwool. 160mm + 40mm air gap
Rockwool is a health hazard and banned in a lot of other countries
I appreciate eveything about this video: camera settings, sound, editing, conciseness. Quality stuff. Wow.
Thanks man, I appreciate you taking the time to comment ✌️
Very informative. As always, a true producer. Thank you!
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Great informative video Dilby, and very good timing as I’m just putting my studio back together, I’m not the best at DIY but going to give this a go.
Neither am I bro. It's pretty easy, and totally worth doing. Good luck. Write me on IG if you have any questions.
Amazing content as always Dilby 👏
Thanks Chris!
A man of culture indeed 🤩👌🏽 panels look amazing bro ✌🏽
Thanks mate 😁
I've watched nearly 20 videos on the subject and this is the one I have saved for when commencing on my own diy project. Love the video mate!
This material he’s promoting is a health hazard, and it is banned and a lot of other countries I wouldn’t use it
@@alambe7275 not planning to dry myself with the stuff.
@@nickwatts4618 👍
Great video. Thank you for the thorough research and production!
No problem Jim.
This stuff he’s promoting is a health hazard and banned in a lot of other countries
Very nice bro. And kudos for building the panels in such a small space! I had the luxury of building mines outside.
Yeah, I did it during winter in Berlin. It was about -5 Celsius outside 😂
The material he’s promoting is banned in other countries as hazardous
Acoustic Insider… highly recommended! Jesco is just the man. every video i've watched on his channel provided valuable information, presented in a comprehensible way.
and: thanks Dilby for a great video : )
@@brusecco No problem :)
Great content :)
Thanks bro
Awesome video mate. Definitely going to attempt this. Just the thought of making a complete hash puts me off 😂 Very helpful video!!
Get stuck in bro. I'm not a handyman by any stretch of the imagination. It's pretty easy.
Good video, it's what I was looking for, super useful! It would be nice if you make a video of your studio tour! 🙌 greetings from Argentina 🎊
Hey mate, glad you found it useful ✌️
all will work good only thing i saw in a lot of video all are use normal fabric as the ikea one with rockwool...better find one over 300/350g...that because rockwool after some years start to realese some material that ll be not so healty if u work lot of hours in the studio great video :)
Yeah, that stuff is not good for ya. That's why I wrapped them in the thin plastic.
Great thumbnail !
Omg i made the pannels three times with different material and each time i got asthma!! i could have nailed it by using plastic bags? Eveyone on internet said it does reflect!! Omg im freaking out!!
My measurements indicate that it doesn't. Well, actually I can't say that. My measurements indicate that the net result is a significant improvement, despite any reflections caused by the plastic wrap.
Funny guy mr Dilby, culture appreciation man, great, again and again!! 🎖will use 10/10
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Great content, thank you! What happens if I use rockwool with >20Kpa of gas flow? Is it also good? Moreover, which should be the ideal density?
I think that's a bit dense. But it's not an opinion thing, it's physics. Use this handy tool to calculate the effects of using different materials and different thickness. www.acousticmodelling.com/porous.php
Junge, höre gerade beatport deep house top 100 auf arbeit und feier ein lied und gucke dann aufs handy und sehe den namen dilby omg hahaha
hahaha, yeah. It's been a good year so far. I think I am currently Number 5 Artist on Beatport Deep House for most charted tracks. www.beatstats.com/artists/dilby/130501-3months-genre12
@@dilbydj do you also give feedback on tracks? Where can we contact you?
For sure. info@wkndaudio.com
I noticed that your construction table for making acoustic panels were a bunch of acoustic panels. It's a paradox like the chicken and the egg. :)
Did I not mention... "step 1, build a bunch of acoustic panels so you have somewhere to build your acoustic panels." 😂
does the rockwool stays put after beeing set on the wall? like is the plastic enought to keep it tight so it wont fall aganst the back fabric? or is the plastic stuck to the wood too? ty man for the great video!
the rockwool is pretty rigid and tight in the frame.
@@dilbydj ty man i got it now!
The poly might not be a problem for high frequency reflections, but won't it certainly negate the "air gap" advantage when the sound can't go through. I use my old bed sheet to cover the backs of my panels. They are tight enough to "imprison" the rock wool fibers and the price is free. You have so many absorbers, I doubt you will miss the extra absorption from the air gap, but others might want to know that poly won't allow the sound to flow through. Not to mention potential resonance problems from taunt poly drum skins on the back of all absorbers.
The air gap is for extending the absorption to the lower frequencies. Easy way to test this... Grab some super thin plastic like I'm using and cover the front of your monitors. It's going to sound almost exactly the same which means the frequencies are getting through ✅
Are you not worried about those peaks that comes out on acoustic modeling when you select a low density material in a not too deep absorber? Having the air gap increases those peaks even more. Should we worry about that? Thanks
Not sure what your concern is. Sounds like you have been reading stuff on forum posts.
What I did, that I am explaining in the video, is pretty simple and easy plus gets good results. In acoustic treatment there is a huge law of diminishing returns. Perfection is not possible and the pursuit of perfection is super expensive.
Do whatever you want man. I'm not an expert, but I got my info from reliable sources and the results show the treatment I did made a net positive. So I'm happy.
Neat video, lots of information, i can see the work you put into it 👌
I just got a question about one detail you gave. You said you couldn't set your desk along the lengthway of your room like the common way. But you also said that was what worked the best for you.
Did you read or heard things about that concept ? Because I think I will have to do the same as you but I'm not sure what's really wrong with this orientation. My guess is that for small room, if you set the desk like so, your listening position would end up either at the center of the room (the famous prohibited spot) or at 25% of the room which is also apparently a dangerous spot.
All of those "rules" are based on scientific models. Those models are accurate, but based on perfectly symmetrical room dimensions. But in reality no room is perfectly symmetrical and almost all rooms have non symmetrical parallel surfaces, e.g. my room has a wall with a large window and a wall with a door on opposite sides to one another. This basically creates unpredictable room response that does not fit to one of these models. So while they are handy as a guide, as a rule they're not sufficient to get the best results. I used a technique mentioned in the video that I got from acousticsInsider.com to find my listening position based on the results of a listening test to find the best bass response. I recommend anyone does the same as getting the right listening position in your room. Is going to give you the best chance of getting the message out of your room acoustics. Then I used the technique to sit up my speakers from the same website. They have a free guide about how to set up your room and I followed that, and I recommend that anyone does so too.
Awesome video, is SONOROCK a type of rock wool? I can see you are from Germany and cant find any in the USA that sell "Sonorock rock wool". I only see stuff sold just as "rock wool", is this the same thing?
Yeah, exactly. It's a brand here in Germany. I think Cornings is a brand in the states. But any rock wool or mineral wool with a has flow resistivity like I mention in the video will work.
@@dilbydj Thanks for reading out again. I appreciate your knowledge! One question, does it matter what fabric I use? I heard that using a basic fabric from a store like Jo-Anns will not allow the panels to absorb the sound. Does it HAVE to be acoustic fabric? Such as duck cotton fabric or Guilford of Main? Thanks
@@magdalinekovalchuk well if that's the case then my panels must be completely useless as I used the cheapest fabric I could find (IKEA).
The general rule is if you can blow through it, it will be fine. When choosing a fabric you should try to avoid something that will reflect the sound waves instead of allow them to pass through into the rock wool, which essentially converts the sound energy into heat.
Am I missing something? 3x 40mm sheets would be 120mm of insulation with an 80mm air gap
You're right, it's 4 sheets, not 3
Hey mate. Did you wrapthe rockwool with plastic film on the inside?
Yes, it's all detailed in the video mate.
@@dilbydj Did the film affect the absorption properties of the panel?
@@endemica_templates I get the feeling you didn't watch the video 😂😂😂
@@endemica_templates no, it didn't make any significant impact. The result was great across the frequency spectrum.
@@dilbydj I watched 2 times with translation subtitles. 😉
Wich camera are u Using?
Canon M50
Another effective method to subdue the particles is to mist them with spray adhesive and let it cure before attaching fabric.
Great idea!
If you gotta do that, you shouldn’t use it in your home where you and your family can breathe in hazardous material
@@alambe7275 If so concerned, one can install it in a case (like a pillow) of a filter effect fabric. They use rock wool in hospitals. I installed miles of it in my youth before OSHA made anyone wear particle masks. That, and me smoking 2-3 packs of marlboros for 35 years, it's amazing I have made it into my 60s, never mind surviving lead paint and the asbestos dust that used to make mud boogers in my nose and my shower water dark grey when I first got into the trades.
Dont u get allergies from rockwool? I do!!
Yeah, it's awful itchy shit.
Any irritations on skin breathing till now.?
nope
@@dilbydj cool I am gonna make one with confidence.
@@manitsony6703 best advise I can give you is make a lot at one time. It makes the whole process much more efficient doing 10-20 at a time. If you have a buddy that needs some you could do it together which would make it so much quicker and easier. Good luck mate. Send me a pic on IG of how they turn out.
You made them thick enough, though it would have been even better to fill them all the way and mount them farther off the wall, for about the same cost. What was the plastic supposed to do? I just used two layers of fabric and wrapped the entire frame and everything. I used cheap wedding tablecloth cotton muslin. I tried stretchier stuff but it was more problematic.
The cost of mounting them off the wall is space.
The plastic keeps the particles of rock wool from getting into the air.
@@dilbydj fabric does that well. Space is a penalty, not a cost.
@@gregorypinkowski7809 sure, but the plastic is obviously more effective at doing that job and, more importantly, was a fraction of the cost a second layer of fabric. If you are worried that this won't absorb sound effectively, try covering your face with plastic food wrap and shouting. The sound travels through. The the plastic I used is even thinner than food wrap.
I have panels mounted across 8 of the room corners creating plenty of air gap. The low end is very well controlled. So mounting the panels off the wall would have taken up unnecessary space and made the mounting process much more difficult. My walls are solid concrete, not drywall so having simple process was important.
There are plenty of options that will work. I am simply trying to help people by showing what worked for me. I'm not selling panels, just trying to share what I have learned in the hopes that it can make the process less complicated than it was for me.
It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and critique things, but how about contributing something positive to the world? Drop a link to your video so we can see how you did it mate. :)
You wouldn't catch me in that studio with all of those fibers floating around. That rockwool is used for insulating walls and not for making acoustic panels. That stuff is outlawed in Europe for a reason. And you are pushing this stuff onto others? I wouldn't take the risk.
Buddy, I'm in Europe and the stuff I use is readily available. The rock wool I use in the video is designed for acoustic absorption in houses and I show how to prepare it so the fibers don't escape.
What would you suggest using?
The guy in the video says that all phone panels are scams, but he wants you to use a material called rock wool that is a health hazard and band, and so many other countries inside your house, where you sit and breathe the stuff in
Don’t think so !
Cool 😎
I apologise for my brutal honesty.
But don't parade your DIY designs here and try to gain popularity by showing how LITTLE you know about acoustics.
Cool Julian. Thanks for the great input. You seem like a top guy.
Hey dude, I can see you're in Germany. Where did you source the wood, what size were the boards (before cutting)? I've been trying to find them on several Baumarkt websites (which are all shit) but can't find any within a reasonable price and length range. And what are those paper strips called?
Cheers
hey, write me on IG and I'll give you a quick call. easier than trying to explain here.
@dilbydj on IG
@@dilbydj Thanks for the offer but I don’t have an Instagram account. Plus I’m sure others would be interested too.
So I found some stuff and came to about 45€ per Panel with lots of building involved and not including fabric.
But I think I might have found a pretty good hack: IKEA Gersby, it’s 25€ (10€ used) and 150% of the size, one could saw one in half for easier handling. I think I’ll try that.
Cheers
@@RobbDizzl Fabric is half the cost. The insulation I used is Rockwool Sonorock in 40mm sheets.
Wood was the cheapest available in that size from Globus
you seem cool, we are friends now. Also can i move in with you and make music together :D
Perfect buddy, I need to talk you about lending me some money 💰💰💰