How Wish Changed Every Disney Movie
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Disney’s Wish celebrates 100 years of the animation studio bringing old fairytales to modern audiences. And the people are super split on whether or not it’s a good or bad movie. Debate aside, what I want to talk about is how their big-yet-subtle twist at the end of the movie changes every Disney movie as we know it. Seriously! And there's another twist not in the movie itself. We have quite a bit to cover in this Wish deep dive, so hold on tight!
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The writers confirmed Asha is not the same fairy godmother as seen in Cinderella but they had no comment on the theory that Asha become the teacher of the fairy godmother in Cinderella
That symbol on the book appears in one other location. Watch Sofia the first series finale Royal Forever. The symbol appears on Vor’s cape latch. And Vor is also called the first Disney villain.
I dunno if its me but I FEEL like Wish was HEAVILY rushed. No wonder a lot of people are divided on this movie. Aside from it, love the theory!!
ive heard tales through the grapevine (so take this with a grain of salt) that the movie was finalized and work towards animation started but then the higher ups demanded everything to be changed so that the movie was safer and completely different from what had been originally planned/decided.
it sounds like every disney film is getting the frozen treatment and the only way for good films to be made are if the creators basically go into hiding (like what happened with lilo and stitch)
@avengefullgirl95 that is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. Disney was supposed to be pushing boundaries, and now they're too scared to push them?! That's insane!
It was and stupid Iger had one artist doing the work of three artists!!! He keeps firing people too then wondering why these movies flop!! He also called the audience "toxic" so F him!!! Gonna sit back and watch Disney burn.
@@sapphirejade5029From what I recall, it was originally an evil villain duo instead of just the king, they had darker skin but they made it lighter, and that the main character was supposed to have a romance bit.
@@hiddendesire3076 okay????
As a healthcare worker (HCW) I can seriously relate to Magnifico. He did his best, wasting years to learn the 'art' and protects the people his way, but when he showed subtle signs of burntout and felt under-appreciated, no one was there to console him except that feeble attempt of the queen.. So what if he desires a little bit of praise? So what if he wanted a bit of acknowledgement, it isn't evil, it's human.. and when he finally snapped from the heavy burden he had carried all these years, that one single event made everyone turn against him, forgetting all the sacrifices he did to built the kingdom.. And even worst, the people actually gave no second thoughts and felt that he deserve to be left trapped in the dungeons forever...
One occasion I had during the pandemic when us HCW already put ourselves at risk for the masses, one of them had the audacity to demand for a private cabin and spew foul shit comments at our faces.. I would have broken their 'wish' too if I snapped at that point like Magnifico... Again, totally relatable..
Magnifico was pretty much adored by everyone in the kingdom, there was no lack of praise or acknowledgement.
Although he started out with good intentions, over time he grew to be paranoid, controlling and a bit narcissistic.
He didn't just take wishes to keep them safe anymore or to grant them, he took them to keep people in line. Remove their wish, basically their ambition in the movie, so that they don't do anything unpredictable, something that might jeopardize his vision, his control.
As shown in the movie, he didn't want to grant Sabino's wish of "creating something to inspire people" because he couldn't guarantee what they'd be inspired to do, what if they were inspired to revolt against him? When asked why he wouldn't just return the wishes that he never wanted to grant, he yells that he decides what people deserve.
He has become an authoritarian who thinks that he knows what's best for everyone and takes offence when someone dares to question him. He felt threatened by Star's light awakening something warm inside people.
The vast majority of his Kingdom listened to him and was loyal up until the very end where he ensnared everyone with his green magic and openly proclaimed all the wishes to be his.
@@luckymouse1988 That's what burntout meant.. We all know the joy of helping others, but when you've overworked yourself to the limit, doing what you think is best for the masses because everyone depended on you and you seem to be the only one capable of doing the work, and all the while having very little physical gain to look back at, to remind/motivate us to continue.. that can be very frustrating, especially when the people you're protecting started showing distrust on your intentions...
But instead of calming him down and showing him compassion or guiding him back to the right path, like what we should do for good ppl who experienced burntout, these ppl continued triggering him and reassuring his insecurities, eventually even imprisoning him... Imagine this : a surgeon who had helped ppl daily, performing emergency surgeries to the point of lacking sleep and skipping meals because people needed him, and when he lashes out once with words that 'hurt' ppl, he immediately gets blacklisted and sent to the electric chair... Now how's that for justice? And while yes it may seem as though he is a bit of an authoritarian, but same goes with how a doctor gets to decide which antibiotics is best for the patient - they are just more qualified for the job. Just because he said it in a harsh unfiltered manner doesn't mean it's an evil thing to say, because yes, at the end of the day the ones who are professionals at the field are the ones to decide.. Plus I could also argue that the main character herself who lacked any form of qualification or even any redeeming qualities, gets to decide recklessly that ALL wishes have the right to be granted, isn't that 'authoritative' in reverse, on the opposite end of the spectrum? If anything, the solution should be somewhere in the middle where both the people and the king decides together which wish to be granted, which to return to the people, and which to be left with the king.. Just my 2 cents
Also side note, I believe the king is a good person whose insecurities got the better of him during his burntout period, up to the point he went and seek the evil book of spells to bolster himself against his insecurities.. After that point, it was as if he was possessed and slowly slipping/losing his 'self'... Watch the movie again if you didn't notice that.. #RelatableKing :(
@@studguy-mk8pp Not really, he wasn't burntout. He probably did start out actually wanting to grant people's wishes, but he also probably found out later on that he could use his wish granting magic to more or less just outright control people. So, no, he pretty much got what he deserved and is not a victim of burnout. And if you want to retort, here is something that you probably didn't consider. Magnifico makes a promise to grant those people's wishes and then backtracks in private that he isn't going to grant them, right? Well, who else makes promises to the people but doesn't actually fulfill them? Answer: Selfish Politicians.
@@jcmahrt5100How was he controlling people? Once a person's wish was taken they stopped caring about it and didn't even remember what it was. They also gave him their wishes voluntarily, and he only took people wishes if they were 18 years old or older (adults). There was no coercion involved at all, every person knew what they were agreeing to. Plus, Magnifico was looking for an apprentice to teach how to grant wishes.
Regarding Magnifico, I quote the "Free to be you and me" generation: some kind of help is the kind of help that helping's all about, and some kind of help is the kind of help we all can do without.
From when I first saw trailers, El Re Magnifico's overall character reminded me of a fusion between Grimhilde (first ever Disney villain, same symbolic motifs in her alchemy lab), Gaston (similar "seen as a hero by the town, seen as unbearably vain and villainous to audience from the start" angle), Judge Claude Frollo (self-righteous hypocrite, known for gaslighting opposition and making endless excuses that their evil is justified since they are a "people's here"), and Gothel (vain, Frollo's fellow abusive parent, emotionally manipulative and self-obsessed).
I think this movie makes the "villain" the good guy all along. He never done anything really bad like Frollo, Evil Queen, Ursula, Maleficent, Cruella, Lady Tremaine or Hades. In the end it was the book who turned him into a evil magician... To be honest Magnifico wasn't that evil at all
He literally took peoples wishes and made them believe they would get them. But he never even gave Ashas grandfather his wish because he believed it might cause trouble.
But I do get your point he is one of the least evil villains of disney
@@rockythepiratequeen they don't have to give them up tho. The person can just refuse to give them on the 18th birthday or leave. It's the person who decided to take a gamble. And who knows maybe the wishes could of been more dangerous than people realize. Something seemingly innocent that has the potential to cause great harm.
To me the real message of the movie isn't explained in the best way possible. The real message to me is to not expect people to realise your wish for you but to fight yourself with your own strength to realise your wish. And I'm debating with myself whether Magnifico is a real villain or an antagonist. The real question would be, why does he keep the wish of people. It is really for safety or to keep control over people. If that's for safety, the real villain is the system, if that's to keep power, he's the vilain
No he was evil before that. He only used the book because people were questioning him.
To be fair it could be that the evil queen or Snow was a descent of Queen Amaya either through her remarrying or adopting a child and the queen found the mirror in dungeon while exploring the castle.
In the Disney novel Fairest of all: A Tale of the Wicked Queen, the mirror is actually occupied by the soul of the queen's dead father who was a king. Not necessarily canon but it shows that there are other origin stories. Plus, it hardly matters if the evil queen is a descendant of Amaya because the mirror that Amaya sent to the dungeon is not the mirror from Snow White. They are essentially not in the least bit similar. The Mirror in Snow White is bigger, oval, golden and ornate. The one in Wish is not even a mirror to begin with. It is the tip of Magnifico's magic staff and its is actually a small piece of crystal. And Magnifico is not really the ghost-faced spirit from Snow White regardless of the Easter Egg of that face supposedly showing for a split second in Wish because the spirit in Snow White has occlumency powers which Magnifico does not specialise in. Even if we pretend that it is a mirror, as Amaya does, it is just a hand-held type and it is smaller, rhomboid, dark-coloured and plain. There was a similar magic mirror in Descendants and even that was not exactly the same as the Wish one except for the size; plus it is a separate universe to the original Snow White.
that's a great theory!
I like this theory, but i have trouble imagining Scar finding a book, knowing what it is, what it will do and what to do with it. Same with Zira. Also, i think whoever shot Bambi's mom is Gaston.
Do lions even know how to read?
Once Upon a Time style
someone debunked that, bambi was an american deer, and since beauty and the beast is set in france they were in different locations that at the time, gaston wouldnt have been able to travel to
That doesnt apply to every single Disney villain, a lot of them obv couldnt have been under the influence of that book. Also Gaston isnt The Man from Bambi cuz:
1. There's no way he'd silently wait in the bushes to shoot some animals, he'd probably bring someone with him to display his hunting skills in front of them and he'd brag about himself while hunting. The Man didnt show up onscreen even once, Gaston isnt the type of guy who would spend the whole movie offscreen lol
2. The Man often used hounds while hunting, he chronologically first used one pack of hounds in Bambi 2 (that's a midquel and Bambi is still a fawn) but some of them died by the end of the movie. Chronologically later in the finale of Bambi (when Bambi is an adult), The Man used a large pack of hounds which means he obv got some new hounds since Bambi 2 and therefore he either breeds hounds by himself or buys new hounds whenever he loses some of the old ones. Gaston didnt own a single hound which is another proof that he and The Man are two different people
For all we know, it could have been Amos from Fox and the Hound. At least it seems to be set in America where the Disney's Bambi takes place and at the same time period. As stated in another comment, Beauty and the Beast takes place at least a century earlier and it is in France. Also, Amos is probably not the hunter either because he only has two dogs whereas the hunter in Bambi has lots of dogs and none of them looks like Amos's dogs.
One thing that really stroke me as "wow, I did not realize this" was the fact that Magnefico has a secret lab just like how Yzma does in The Emperor's New Groove. Granted it takes place in ancient times during the Incan Empire but what I know about her is that she wants to be empress and she's willing to kill Emperor Kuzco to get it, especially when she has a secret lab that can turn people into animals. So I wouldn't exactly say that Yzma is using a "magic book" since she's a woman of science but the fact that he ALSO has a secret lab just like Yzma's from The Emperor's New Groove should be something to keep in mind.
If we wanna go really crazy. The reason Yzma is more goofy and affable than most other Disney villains is because she doesn't have the book or refuses to use it out of principle.
@@IsaacVizasLurie Fair point, but she and the other Disney Villians still outrank Gaston though.
@@deannal.newton9772 Yeah fair. But there isn't really a formal rank system outside of kingdom hearts. Beyond that the other thing is chronology and who has the book and who merely has a side artifact.
For example both Gaston and Beast had a magic mirror but not the book. Scar is an animal and presumably can't read humans languages but some of the knowledge may have been left in petroglyph form or he stumbled across something for the green flames.
Other villains don't have anything like it, for example Clayton, Ratcliffe, Cruella, Lady Tremaine and have no magic in their debut movies. You could make the case that the book indirectly set Frollo on his path by freaking him out about heresy and driving him to witch hunts.
The chronology thing is the other issue. It's stated that Wish takes place in Moorish Spain so that'd be in from the tail end of the 1st millennium (0-1000). Mulan takes place, in the 5th century, and Heracles takes place in Bronze Age Greece so that's right out. Same with Sword in the stone and black cauldron which are both around 5th-6th century. So Magnifico presumably post dates em. Though it is quite possible both Mim and the horned king had the book
@@IsaacVizasLurie You're not wrong there about Mim and the Horned King.
@@IsaacVizasLurie Would this somewhat imply that the book originally came from greek/roman magical origin? Someone had to MAKE the book, right? (I haven't seen wish, so idk), which means there were perhaps more previous victims of said magic before this movie? Dragged around by plunderers, travelers, and conquerors through different countries before it finally lay in Spain?
Green with jealous comes to mind. All these villians are jealous in some way. Jealousy can drive you mad and make you do horrible things.
Arsenic Paris Green (Vert de Paris) comes also to mind.
Jealousy can be a deadly poison in its own way. It poisons a person's perception of things and leads them down a self destructive path that could (and does in Disney Villains' cases) lead to death.
Green with envy. 💚
Your idea is so great. It's too bad that Disney is so mediocre; they never take advantage of ideas like that; as much as I’d like to say that the queen would be a secret villain, that is too good of an idea for Disney to use.
I wonder if Asha isn't *the* Fairy Godmother, but the *first* Fairy Godmother. This way, it makes sense that Cinderella's Fairy Godmother is (among other things) white, and you could also lump in other wish-granting entities like the Blue Fairy as part of Asha's legacy.
I've talked to a few others and apparently I'm not the only one who thinks that King Magnifico is an allegory and a reference to Walt Disney himself and thus the theory has been born that King Magnifico is meant to be Walt Disney.
if thats the case i consider that an insult to disney
@@SilverSkyCloudI don't think you know much about "Uncle Walt".
If Wish is a prequel to every other Disney movie, then it single handedly ruins all of them. I'm fine with Magnifico becoming the Magic Mirror, but the idea that Asha becomes a Fairy Godmother when she's not a fairy is just ridiculous. Wish was so insecure about itself that it had to rewrite Disney history to make itself seem important, Walt's legacy didn't deserve this. Also Evil Queen Grimhilde married Snow's king dad before he died, that's why she's the lone ruler and treated Snow like a servant.
None of these is officially confirmed. The only thing that was officially said about this movie being a spiritual prequel to others is the concept that the Star is the same Disney star that characters in other movies wish upon, which has no effect on the plots of these movies. All the rest are fan speculation, just like the Pixar theory etc. Magnifico did not become the magic mirror because the mirror he is in is not in the least bit similar to the mirror in Snow White (and no, he cannot be summoned from one mirror to another because it is not possible to summon spirits trapped in an object, otherwise Jafar would have just summoned the Genie from the Cave of Wonders without having to acquire the lamp). People say that they see the face of the Magic Mirror in the crystal where Magnifico is trapped but this is more likely just one of the many Easter eggs and was only meant as joke. Also, Magnifico is not an oracle and, although he casts spells, he does not have magical insight to answer questions as the spirit in the mirror does. And no, Asha is not the Fairy Godmother in Cinderella just as she is not Tinkerbell, the Blue Fairy or Flora, Fauna and Merriweather. She does wear the blue outfit as another Easter reference, but she cannot be the Fairy Godmother from Cinderella for the very simple reason that the Fairy Godmother is caucasian (I did not want to point that out but it has to be said). It is not Disney ruining their movies with Wish, it is fans spreading such made-up theories. Consider how many people online were convinced that Brom is the Headless Horseman in disguise in Disney's Sleepy Hollow even though all evidence pointed otherwise. Disney put this argument to rest once and for all in Once Upon a Studio where these two appeared as separate characters. So, although I appreciate the time and effort put into this video, Wish does not change anything at all about the continuity of other Disney movies. They are all set in separate continuities, just like Kingdom Hearts changes nothing about Disney movies and neither do alternate universes such as House of Mouse, Descendants, Once Upon a Time, live action remakes, published Disney novels etc.
It has.
@@lcmiracle What, when and where if you could please explain? Even the artbook of Wish does not seem to mention any of that and none of the creators has addressed any of these other than the star. If I am missing something, please let me know.
@@lcmiracle"... only proved Disney is creatively bankrupt"
There, I finished the sentence for you.
@@vassiliapolychronaki1631Fr Wish means nothing to me, regardless of what they try to say about it
I don't think Asha is Cinderella's fairy godmother since they're different races so maybe Asha trained other fairy godmothers and one of them was Cinderlla's
I haven't even watched Wish yet- but because of the concept art of the queen being evil and the star actually being a love interest(RIP star boy!). I thought I would personally rewrite my version of the story before watching it. Involving Asha being more service oriented, a day dreamer, an intellectual who finds out for herself what the King and Queen is really up to in Rosas. I think Asha's wish would be to feel connection to someone/something to deeply care for, hence the introduction to star boy! A Star boy who grants wishes on a whim- and learns that not every wish needs to be granted in order for someone's life to be fulfilled and successful. Together they'd learn that the king and queen took away Asha's wish (shocker😜)- ripping her of her memories of her family and friends. Yeah- anyway! Her being a fairy Godmother totally works too!
You know if there's an unknown all-powerful force of evil in a Disney film people are gonna say it's Chernaborg.
Ah the long forgotten villain........
"Wish Changed Every Disney Movie" unless you ignore it and treat it as non-cannon. Then it's just another one of Disney's many many many failures this year.
WISH should have been a lot more, but it's not a bad movie.
At least the ancient dark magic leaves room for another movie in that direction and I hope they utilise it once they get their mojo back, but not before that.
From what I've gotten from reviews, it's mediocre. Enjoyable enough to watch, especially for children. But as an original Disney movie and centennial celebration of the company it's a massive disappointment. There were a lot of simple ways they could have improved things if they hadn't dumped the project on people too inexperienced and unqualified to truly make it shine.
@@MrDj232That, imo, is about the worst a movie can be. Just good enough for a watch. But not good, or so bad it’s good, enough to rewatch it. It’s sad that a centennial celebration film might not get the sales the movies it homages got.
@@annegrey6447 A movie can be outright boring. Wish might be forgettable but at least you won't be miserably checking the clock while it's on. I get where you're coming from, and I'm also sad that Disney couldn't be bothered to put their best foot forward for such a huge occasion, but I do have to disagree about this being the worst thing a movie can be.
I'm a grown adult. I was entertained. Considering the premise song was based on a Carl Sagan quote regarding astrophysics and subatomic particles - I thought *that* was hilarious and clever.
Honestly, if you don't recognize one of the most famous "motivational" quotes being utilized in this fashion you are far too young to be on this channel without supervision or so ignorant I'm legitimately sad for you.
I eagerly await being chastised for being "woke" or an "intellectual elitist".
@@searchingfororion Why would I call you an "intellectual elitist" when you aren't even smart enough to reply properly? OP said Wish could have been more, I commented on the impression I got from reviews, and no other comments are about Wish directly. Your comment about the opening song being based on a Carl Sagan quote is completely out of left field and makes no sense in the context of this discussion thread.
I'm hearing contradicting stuff to other reviews. One of them being that the king ASKED for the wishes. The other reviewer said people came willingly to live in his kingdom and give him their wishes.
And asha's grandfather's wish was "to inspire a new generation" which was not granted cause it was too vague and could go south.
Guess I will just have to pirate it and make my own assumptions.
And once more, fans make better stories than Disney.
Maybe… the book was written by Chernabog? 😮
(Is Fantasia still cannon? Pretty sure it’s still cannon…)
It's funny how green colored magic represents toxicity. Like I get what they're going for with the symbology of the color of magic and different types of magic are different colors. Hence why ferry magic is gold, holy magic is usually blue or white, purple or pink has to do with inside the person...
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You make Wish sound way better than it was.
This. This is called conspiracies that are actually good
I feel like the film wanted to have its cake and eat it too. The concept art of the film is the most interesting part about it.
Ok hear me out, the dragon motif on the cover of the book, with the round crystal in the center feels very maleficent, after becoming corrupted by the power is when he gets the thorny symbology in his magic, and claw like hands of green energy (like dragon claws). Perhaps the book was written by the mistress of all evil herself. Perhaps the disaster that destroyed his family and burned his family tapestry was her doing (she does seem to like using fire on her enemies, and she seems to live in a castle that stands in ruins, perhaps she claimed it from the Magnifico family). Where else would Magnifico find a library's worth of books on magic? his fear of the power she wielded would be a good reason he initially locked up the book and declared it forbidden. Maybe it's not a prequel to every other Disney movie, just some of them.
(Also, I feel like there's almost something with him naming his kingdom after roses and the fairies changing Aurora's name to Briar Rose while she's in hiding, but I couldn't quite make anything of it in my head, maybe someone else can run with that 😅)
Amia is not evil why would she read from the book she knew would corrupt her or have that whole arc where she had to wake up and realize what a conman her husband is? That was a ruff draft of the Script by that logic Elsa should still be evil to but she’s not, on top of that the mirror he’s trapped in isn’t even the right shape there is such a good message in this movie about the dangers of trusting a yes man like Magnifico if people would just stop trying to look for evidence that were never there😢
Just for the record I’m not try to slams on your video or anything sorry 😞 I just get really worked up when ever hear these theories try and warp the intend story that’s why I love your video on why Gaston is so obviously the bad guy🎉
small error in your recap
the woman who wants to fly isn't Mary Poppins
it's Wendy from Peter Pan
No, because then Wendy would already be able to fly when Peter finds her.
Sooo... since this book is similar to the one in Hocus Pocus and since that book has skin and an eye... could we tell that maybe it's the Necronomicon and so... the root of the Green Evil in the Disney World? Just my opinion
So real quick her friends are the 7 dwarfs... probably through magic of course 😮
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the people are split on whether Wish is a good or bad movie in the way people are split on if getting kicked in the nuts by a mule is a good or bad version of contraception
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If you've played Dreamlight Valley, the vines created from his power looks like the Forgetting. Which is interesting, since he made everyone Forget about their Dreams.
My brain thought this was gonna loop back to shrek forgetting its a parody
He isn't the mirror. The mirror is completely different in Snow White.
Movie had so much potential, but they forgot to make magnifico actually corrupt before using the book. He just turned evil because of one child oppose him.
I know right? It comes across morenlike the evil book finally breaking him down after years of work than him succumbing to his own flaws.
I don’t think EVERY single villain would have found Magnifico’s book let alone needed or made use of it. Claude Frollo, in his twisted way, wouldn’t have used it because of his self-praised religious beliefs in God. So whether or not he was good, he wouldn’t have needed it. Scar is an animal who likely would not have known how to read any human language, so he’s out too. Then there King Candy who’s nothing more than bits of data in a modern-world video game.
So yeah, Magnifico’s book doesn’t really apply to all the villains, but it’s still a pretty strong root for all the others
Same for Governor Ratcliffe, Shen Yu, Mother Gothel, or Bill Sykes, villains that don’t have powers and rely on positions of power or manipulation to achieve their goals. Legit all Gothel wanted was to stay young and beautiful forever, what makes her a perfect villain is how narcissistic and abusive she is towards Rapunzel and anyone who threatens to take her “flower” away. Rapunzel would’ve remained permanently trapped with her if Flynn hadn’t found her, let alone helped her see how her mother didn’t actually love her
@@kristinahuchison2511 So this kinda begs the question: "How did all the other likely villains get their hands on the book after the events of 'Wish?' "
A couple ideas I have in mind revolves around whether or not Queen Amaya remained a good person like in the official film. If things had taken place as they did and the movie with Amaya ruling over Rosas in peace, there's a likely chance that the book may have been put away for safe keeping and remained forgotten to history until someone with curious/evil intentions finally found it and stole it for themselves.
But if Queen Amaya was evil and had conspired with King Magnifico (and this is a completely original idea) like the concept art said they were supposed to, my guess is that after Asha and her friends defeated them, Queen Amaya took her mirror-captured husband, retrieved the forbidden book, and fled Rosas to who-knows-where. I even remember reading "Mirror, Mirror: A Twisted Tale" where the Evil Queen origins with her sister, Snow White's mother, revolved around how she first found the Magic Mirror and the Book of Spells she read the Poison Apple from. If this was a true connection, maybe this did happen as I have said, or maybe the Evil Queen might be a descendant of Queen Amaya. Perhaps even a protege.
What do you think?
I like the idea of Asha being the first fairy godmother as opposed to the ONLY fairy godmother. That would explain the wand and the cloak still without her appearance drastically changing
They paint Asha as a hero, but she only cares about granting a wish for his 100-year-old grandfather Sabino. For what? Making music to inspire? He didn't have to wish for that. He could have worked hard for that his whole life.
I think we are missing something here, regarding theories. Sabino wears red and gold, has a beard, and has this hold on Asha in order for his wish to be granted. What if he did this on purpose to make Asha overthrow Magnifico, so to set her up to eventually fail and give him power? What if Sabino is the real villain? Not only that, what if Asha's grandfather is really dead, and this Sabino is a dark sorcerer in disguise? What if it's Jafar?
Remember, he did disguise as an old man to lure Aladdin to the Cave of Wonders. He could have misled Asha and Magnifico, bringing out the worst in both of them, giving him the advantage to soon take control through Rosas' potential chaos. And this could be him traveling through time, so to make one person abuse wishes and unleash the Chernabog.
Plus, his instrument might as well be his snake staff under a spell to fool the public.
I'm just impressed they made a Kingdom Hearts movie and pulled Scala ad Caelum into the Disneyverse proper
So the king dude is The Evil Queens mirror and Asha is Cinderella's Fairy Godmother? Okay got it.
So like an ancient evil giving villians the push they need, like in the Heavy Metal movie. I guess it woud be something cool but I don't feel that everyone involved, that is producers, writing staff and everyone else is on the same page to reach for more but anyway, is a really cool theory, I like it
It’s so cool that Disney producers actually said that wish was a origin to every other movie I think
Sometimes a reference is just that. A reference.
Not a fan of the movie, but your theory is great.
I do not think that Magnifico is actually the villain. He got valid points, and i think Asha's actions have dire consequences for the Kingdom
Asha did nothing wrong. The argument she presented to the king was entirely reasonable and he punished her and her entire family just because she asked a question, by refusing to grant any of her family's wishes (not just the supposedly dangerous one) which he also kept for himself. Punishing entire families for the actions of one member is common practice for the worst monarchs and dictators both on the far left and far right political spectrum. Asha made a wish which was initially answered with bright light (not what she asked for but whatever) and this alone triggered Magnifico to turn to the dark side for no actual threat. Yes, I know he was traumatised because his homeland was destroyed, possibly with magic but seriously? That book was supposed to be for emergencies only. and in the Queen's opinion it should not even be used for that because the effects are irreversible. Imagine if presidents pressed the red button to release nuclear weapons on a knee-jerk reaction. Asha was also justified to want to take the wishes of her family back since they had zero chance of being granted. How did Magnifico punish her? By destroying her mother's wish (which was a piece of her soul) even though her mother had no part in this. And his entire villain song is about how he likes being praised for his benevolence when he forces other people to volunteer to help or donate their personal items, for which he gets full credit.
And no, Magnifico did not really have any valid points other than originally doing what he does in order to prevent another disaster happening and create the perfect utopia. But he was wrong about taking away people's energies in order to turn them into obedient subjects with fragmented souls (a scenario similar to dystopian works of fiction such as Equilibrium, Brave New World and the Giver), he was not returning wishes that he did not wish to grant and he was only branding wishes as dangerous based on his own personal interpretation. Asha's grandfather only wished to write a song that would inspire young people. Magnifico had to put a negative spin on it by arguing that it might inspire violence and a revolution against him. If his point is valid, then we might as well cancel any movies, plays, poems, novels, operas, anime, videogames etc because they MIGHT inspire people to act unlawfully and be political agitators. It doesn't actually sound like a valid point at all. And the only wrong decision in the movie was his decision to resort to forbidden magic just because he felt that his authority was threatened, which did almost destroy the kingdom and everyone in it. This had very little to do with Asha; he had that book there for a reason from the start and for all we know he might have subconsciously been attracted to it and looking for an opportunity to use it.
@@vassiliapolychronaki1631I think think that you're one of the only people in this comment section that actually understood the plot and theme in this film.
What an excellent comment.
@@searchingfororion Thank you.
@vassiliapolychronaki1631 what punishment? Oh, right, being barred from any chance at winning the wish lottery. Oh no, such a horrible terrible punishment, I despise having my wrist slapped.
Wait, crushed wish? you mean after being corrupted by the book? The book is the true villain of the story.
The film also does a TERRIBLE job of establishing his institution of wish hoarding as actually particularly harmful or dystopian. You give him a "wish", but...nearly everyone just gives him their first career choice? Not a desire to have their dead child brought back? Only one person gives up an "impossible" wish? Imo there is something DEEPLY WRONG with these people long before they gave him their wish, to where its low key shocking that the place seems to be prosperous with the subtlest of subtle hints they MIGHT have an economic crisis in, say, 50 years after magnifico dies.
Sure theres simon, aka a SLEEPY EXPY, making him a one off fluke.
All they had to do was include the actual villainy of the scrapped content...
Tldr version: show vs tell. The movie tells us magnifico is a villain, but accidentally shows him to be a morally grey hero/antihero..
I'm not going to lie I really like magnifico. Who is your favorite Disney villain
I thought the movie was incredibly boring. It just came across as a 'Oh wow look at all these disney movie refrences! Look at all these old movies you love isnt that so cool! Wow!' while the actually movie and story was just.. meh. None of the characters were really memorable and im sure magnifico will be forgotten in like two months or something he's just that boring. Also the movie just looks bad to me like unfinished or something. But this is just my opinion so whatver lol
Let's be honest the reason I've seen the movie was because of king majestico he giving silver dilf bives that make me 😩🍷 the rest of the movie didn't pay attention 🙃
Didn’t like the movie but LOOOOOVED ur video❤❤
I can't believe that Disney is trying to turn their classic animated films into the next marvel by connecting everything
They aren't. Jennifer Lien and Chris Buck have said that these references are just Easter Eggs/tributes/homages/nods to the other movies and nothing more really. It is just another Pixar theory really, and people from Pixar have already rejected that one. If Disney choose to include Wish in an upcoming Kingdom Hearts game, avoiding any interconnections with other movie worlds is considered crucial (fans were already upset about the impact that Wish would have on Kingdom Hearts even though the games are set in an alternate continuity).
wishes lyrics probably didnt even get proofread half the time, to quote the kings song "i let you live here for free, and i dont even charge you rent" its like they used AI to write the song in another language and had an outdated version of google translate it, and it feels like all they did for the other characters is copy them due to lack of imagination, the seven friends= seven dwarfs for example
From what I heard, while they didn't use AI per se, they sure treated the aongwriters LIKE ai with minimal info as a prompt and not enough time.
The book could have been crafted by Chernabog?
I just want to see Wish for myself, I heard great positive reactions to the movie and I've been a Disney fan for years!
When and if the movie is shown in my hometown, I hope I get to see it. ^^
I saw it this past weekend and thought it was a delightful film.
just watch it online so you dont waste your money lol
@@JohnWilliams-cr2szI literally *just* watched it for this video. I don't get the hate for it. Especially people going out of their way to troll the comments to do so.
Disney has a villain book series that focuses on each villain and how they came to be following the story from their point of view the first one is about the evil queen i just recently finished it
dude that would be INSANE if they made the 100th film the beginning of it all!! and asha being the fairy godmother would be so cool!
SOMEONE SEND THIS TO MATPAT ALREADY
I have a Disney/DreamWorks crossover theory. It's a stretch, but hear me out. Assuming the theory in this video is true, maybe after Magnifico got trapped in the mirror, and Amaya became the Evil Queen, maybe lord Farquaad somehow overthrew Amaya, AKA the Evil Queen, took over Rosas, kept the magic mirror, and after taking over Rosas, renamed it Duloc. Because in the first Shrek film Farquaad had the magic mirror. Maybe all the fairytale creatures in the shrek films are a result of people's wishes. If Star was able to make Asha's goat Valentino talk, the same thing could've happened to Shrek's Donkey.
I was going to ignore this video until I saw that it was yours. Love your content, Abit
Edit: wait, maybe I should go watch the movie first
Edit 2: never mind
The book is the true villain, slowly corrupting magnifico over these past few years :p
That, or the queen is. She knows how to read it without getting corrupted but didn't tell her husband? Shes extremely pleased with his fate.
Please do the Snow Queen on A bit late this winter!
This makes me appreciate Wish for what it is, and not wish we had the original concept. What an interesting theory
People are split? Cap, people hate it
This made me want to see Wish in theaters.
same. disney has really lost me these last few years, and i was convinced Wish was gonna do the same.
I'm very much an adult with no children in my life, and I rather enjoyed it.
Well at less Bruno gift is not very evil he use the gift to see the future, he help mirabel to save the magic, he still a good person
If Disney hadn't skipped the love story between Asha and the Starboy, and the villain couple Magnifico and his evil wife Amaya, then I would have absolutely LOVED "Wish"!!! 😭💔💢
I love this so much, could you do old folklore and monsters, Frankenstein, Dracula etc...
All of Disney's features made of stars. . . Except Meet the Robinsons, because we know who the least favorite child is
Ya all that was super dumb, it was like those theories that say Aladdin takes place in the future or the Flintstones is a post apocalypse. You really have to stretch to make any of it fit.
FINALLY a deep dive that doesn’t trash the whole movie ty!
The original idea for Wish was The Star to be Human
As good as this sounds, you have to squint and ignore everything else for it to work. Had they shown hints that Amalia wanted the throne and magic for her own, and Magnifico using the citizens' wishes to gain more power, then yes; as it is, Magnifico is a tragic hero whose only error was being paranoid and was betrayed by his wife. The film simply used established tropes of the company and filled with references.
We still have Vor from Sofia the first, she had a ring that built by different Disney villain's weapon like maleficent spinning wheel or Ursula necklace
What about Bambi? He was grown up here, so Bambi is the 1st movie chronologically
hmm, maybe the master of all evil is Chernabog from Fantasia's Night on Bald Mountain segment? he is pretty evil and powerful too
GOSH your theories are breathtaking😍😍😍
The perfect ai movie, a little bit of everything with none of the creativity.
You just described it perfectly 😂
I doubt this is the origin, this is more how the magic in Disney works, the green magic is the Halloween energy, the witches powers, the yellow light is the star light, the same light that the wizards follow on Christmas. Walt was a big fan of Halloween and Christmas.
The green light source is Chernabog, he played with the souls of wizards and witches, the ones that used green magic. According with Facilier, he can see that shadows, that were the shadows that played with green magic and were consume by that power. Therefore Magnifico isn't the mirror, he is another prisoner of the green magic, like the same happen with Horned King with The Black cauldron. Those souls are the same that Chernabog played on Fantasia at The Bald Mpuntain. In the series Gravity Falls the kids celebrate Summerween Ironic that day is the same that Chernabog rised in the mountain, the night of Saint John, or the real Halloween.
The good wizards follow the power of stars, like magician Mickey on Fantasia. Even Magnifico was at that side, his clothes has a lot of stars, but unlike Merlin, The king was consume by greed and power. Similar to Maleficent a fairy turned into a witch.
I loved this film, also in one of the twisted tale books all the fairy godmothers/fairy’s meet up. Really cool book. Not sure if they all are linked though
Before I watch this video. I was thinking the same thing of what if queen Amaya was the queen in Snow White. Sure different time periods, but maybe she use magic to make herself immortal as we’ll become evil overtime.
What if the Queen's Wish was to overthrow her husband....
Asha can't be the Fairy Godmother because the fairy is a caucasian not black... But she could have made an order of fairies with the same "uniform"
All I could think about was how that book must have an inscription inside of it that says, “From the Library of Jurgen Leitner.”
Someone says the mirror was once the evil queen was once her father.
Yes! This movie was so so fun for me! When I saw a reel showing the "Snow white is the sequel to wish" theory, I was very interested in watching the movie. I just finished it on Disney + and it was fun to point out to my partner all the connections. ❤
Wish's quality and story is meta commentary. People wished for a good movie with a big baddie like Maleficent or Ursula who despite them being villain we all would die to hang out with, truly charming protagonists and supporting cast. We got the exact opposite, this wish was taken away from us, we'd be better off if we could just completely forget about our wishes and expectations towards Disney, so if once in a lifetime they(or another film studio) surprizes us with SOMETHING GOOD we can be happy again
Have not seen the movie myself so I'll watch it later.
Bestie put more thought into this video then Disney did with the whole movie.
Ok back when this movie came out, where did anyone say that it was a Prequel to other Disney movies?🤷🏻♀️
Because to me it’s just another Spinoff.
Wish didn’t change anything ... it’ll be forgotten about in a year!
*That horrible movie will be lucky if it is remembered more than Brave*
This was, MINDBLOWING, Why wasn't this leaned into in the theme or advertising about the SOURCE of so many things!!?
It would have been BRILLIANT!!
First time commenter hehe
First of all, love the channel. I often binge your videos with my 4 year old, who is ironically named Winnifred 😂 she adores your channel and finds your storytelling soothing ❤ we saw this movie today and it was okay in my opinion! It was enjoyable in the moment, I went in with no expectations and I had a good time and Winnie loved it for sure. Looking back on it after thinking for a bit, it definitely felt kinda flimsy. It had potential but kinda fell short. I loved the Easter eggs though. And the funny bits. 😂 anyone else feel like the animation was like Sophia the First? Possibly a crossover in the future like Elena?
There were lots of elements to Magnifico's character that reminded me of Tony Jay's iconic villain that still gives me nightmares. And it wasn't just his being a fellow "self-righteous hypocrite" of a silver fox either. I will neither praise nor berate Wish since it turned out to be everything I expected and nothing more. 2023 has been a very bad year for Disney in terms of releasing (well done) tributes to past movies (Making a stink eye at the live action remakes here, especially The Little Mermaid.) and/or quality original content on our movie screens. Wish is just simply the best of a bad batch and like other box office bombs before it, it will fade into obscurity sooner than most think. (see Chicken Little, Home on the Range, and strangely enough Treasure Planet, Atlantis and Brother Bear, all sound movie projects but not shown widely since they performed poorly at the box office).
It had ZERO advertising. I didn't even know it existed until she posted this.
That's incredibly foolish. My YT metrics basically show me ONLY movie trailers, but not even *one* for the Disney centennial film? Someone's throwing someone else under the bus here.
Did Disney ever confirmed any of this? I didn't see the movie but heard about this villian and the magic mirror stuff. Why did they even show the magic mirror for that split second?
Chernabog the devil of Disney might have wrote it
What about the Black Cauldron as the Horned king wants it so bad
A Disney Classic Cinematic Universe that mixes live action stories with animated ones that are all part of the same timeline? Makes sense to me.
I think the fairy godmother is Cinderellas mom
i know it didn't change one thing. the evil color green. they changed THAT in Encanto XD
i feel like theres more to wish bc of the true origin of magnificos kingdom was bc of the fall of his dad's n they ran away, i believe bc ppl took n up raise against them but who knows
For me, I'm just glad it's a somewhat original creation rather than a live action remake.
I don’t think there’s a debate on whether or not it’s good