One item missed: The Music Nomad files can be removed from their plastic handles, you don't have to use them. Then you can sight right down them the same way as the Stew Mac files.
I have and use the Music Nomad nut files. I've had no issues with them at all. And at 20% of the cost of the Stew Mac files they are hands down the best bargain in my opinion.
There's a chance that the more affordable diamond abrasives follow some abrasive industry standards where there is a wider size disbursement and randomized shape of diamonds in each grade....? Within the business, it's sometimes called "saw" grade, referring to the acceptable grading on affordable cutting devices. The simple solution is to draw the new cutter over a steel edge (shelf, vice, etc) to remove the high spots and the device will settle into a more even and predictable behavior. Thanks for the comparo!
The side of a lap stone will do that very thing. In fact, that's one of the jobs they're actually for. If a person happens to also be into knives, like me, the may have a lap stone for cleaning and surfacing, or "settling in new diamond sharpening plates.
I’m looking for some new nut files, since my 25 year old StewMac ones are wearing out, this video was very helpful. Here’s a tip I discovered that helps a lot to get accurate slot placement: I use my jeweler’s saw with a super fine blade to cut right on the pencil mark first, then start each slot with a fine file. Makes things much easier, for me at least. Thanks for your entertaining and informative videos!
This would be a great upgrade. I've been using feeler gauges that I cut teeth into. It works... but not well. I would definitely appreciate an actual set of files
I have this set of Music Nomad files and just built my first hand-made bone nut. These files are great, but I can confirm that they will jump slot on you if you're not careful. They also can cut VERY fast, but that slows down after some use. I'm a hobbyist and don't make any money (yet) doing guitar work, but I do not regret the money spent for the Music Nomad set. I do plan on getting some supplemental sizes to add to my kit at some point.
I LOVE the Music Nomad files! The comparison in price almost makes it sound like Music Nomad is the "inexpensive" option, but $90 for a set of files is still pricey. But they are by far the best value for the money and they're great quality and work very well! Great video!
You can remove the tip of the handle, and take the actual file out, that helps, when having to start the initial slots. I'm using these, right now, on a bass nut, which I made from a blank of TUSQ. Also, in regards to the "crunchy" feeling you're talking about, when slotting with the Music Nomad files, it all comes down to the grit of the particular file.. Some are 150 grit and some are 300, and that might be the reason why.
I'm 68, looking to retire, and am building up my tool set for more dedicated guitar building and any help to the limited budget would be awesome. Absolutely LOVE your channel and look forward to each and every video. THANKS.
Apparently the file can be removed from the plastic holder to start the slot in a new nut making the view and beginning cut that much easier. Now I want them even more :)
I'd love to try the $90 ones against the Japanese ebay nut slot files I got :). They were $60. As a hobbyist I can't begin to justify buying the StewMac ones for the price of one of my builds 😬
Thanks Chris and Matt, learned a lot from your channel - nut filing is something I always feel frightened to do myself, mostly due to my amazon 6 dollars set does not work very well, I almost always end up taking the off and file the bottom to get it lower, now I can use a good set. thank you - good luck to me!!!
I'm retired & have recently gotten into setting up guitars. I have found that I not only enjoy doing it but I'm also pretty good at it. My only problem is I'm limited in what I can do because of the limited amount of tools I have, so it would sure be nice to win these files.
Hey guys - great video as always! I'm a guitar teacher in the UK and am slowly working my way through setting up all the nasty, ancient guitars at the school where I teach. Would love these files so I can do a decent job on the nuts.
Just bought a set of super light Music Nomad nut files. Haven’t tried them yet but they look like quality. You can remove them out of the plastic holder to sight easily.
Great video! I just started learning to build and setup guitars on a budget. Fret files would take my nut work to the next level. Thank you so much for the opportunity!
This was great to watch and I enjoyed the lesson. I am one of those guys that's retired and enjoys keeping my guitars set up, but there are limits to the funds needed to buy new tools. I did check out Music Nomad and there is an interesting aspect that was missed in your video... they come out of the holder and have an aluminum backing support. No doubt it wouldn't have changed your mind, but would make it easier to see the start of a cut. Thanks again, really enjoy you two and the work you do!!
yeah, take the thinnest one, remove it from the holder, and pre-score all the grooves and then you won't really have a problem letting the file immediately settle in the right place for the cut.
Sold me on the Stewmac. Excellent video. Got them months ago and am absolutely thrilled. I only use the backers for the .010", .013", and .016" gauge files, and used my label maker to make labels to stick onto the backers. These are perfect. No more pinging nut slots. I used to crease a piece of 1500 sandpaper, wet it, and sand the nut slots to smooth the sides to get that dreaded ping to go away. Haven't had to do this a single time since using these files. The "U" shape that they cut is just perfect. I still use my old standard nut files. Mostly for my nut slot spacing technique I came up with, that requires nut files that have smooth sides. The diamond files are especially a joy to use when cutting fretless nut slots, e.g. fretless guitar/bass or violin. There's a finesse you can get when getting the strings to the perfect depth that you just can't get with standard nut files. The cut is smooth and perfect...and again, no dreaded ping. I'm sure the Music Nomad files are fantastic as well. For the lifetime guarantee and wanting the absolute best quality possible, I'm glad I went with Stewmac. I've been doing this a very long time and my biggest regrets with tool purchases have been wishing I spent more for the best I could afford. These have definitely been the most major upgrade to my nut making tools in a long time.
Great timing for me. I've been trying to research these and the Hosco files. I'd really like to buy stew mac's but for my occasional use it wouldn't make sense. Plus that's more than I'm willing to spend right now. I'd love to have the music nomads. Mainly for set-up on my son's guitars along with mine. Plus I'm working on my first build.
I don't think you mentioned this in your video, but you can take the Music Nomad files out of their holders. This makes it much easier to see what you are doing.
For the sight-in problem you noted around the 10 minute mark, maybe get one StewMac file - the thinnest they have - and use that to run a shallow groove with just one pass on the marked line. Then go to the sized Nomad file to finish.
I am currently using the stewmac non diamond nut slotting files. I just purchased a couple of the backers. The Music Nomad B-File for beveling fret ends is wonderful.
The Stew Mac files don't come in sizes for bass guitar. Music Nomad files do offer a few sizes for bass guitar. I was looking for files to set up an instrument using the string sizes listed below, and neither of these diamond files come in sizes that will work for this instrument. 0.040” 0.060” 0.075” 0.095”
I have two electric guitars that have a problem string that I believe angling the nut slot might solve. The D string on my 1960 SG Junior and the G string on my Schecter S type Nick Johnson both vibrate like sitar strings. The best information I can find online is that this is caused by the nut not being angled down, thus causing the string to make contact across the width of the nut slot and messing up the quality of its vibration. I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on this Chris before I try angling the slot myself. At any rate, that's the initial reason why I would want the nut slot files. Your channel is a joy to watch... informative and fun!
For the past 10 years or so, I have used the Hiroshima file set from LMII, with a few of the standard nut files from Stewmac for ones not in that set. They work fine, but they are fragile, particularly the smaller ones. In fact, I broke to 10 thou one. I build regularly, and would love a set of these.
Just recently I was considering building a guitar for my grandson as a Christmas present . Found your channel on RUclips and was really blown away by the dynamics involved in creating a precision musical instrument. Figured I should wait till I have better tools and understanding of the process. So another words I have no tools other than a router, drill press and table saw. I think you guys are very generous to do this to show people how to build their own guitar. I am a keyboard player played and have played in several bands, but I would love to make my grandson a quality guitar.
I retired 3 years ago just getting started in building and repairing guitars as a hobby. These nut files would be nice have. All the information on your channel is the best thanks.
I am in the process of building my shop in a return to Lutherie after a 15 year absence. My old Stew Mac files are looking at being replaced / upgraded. Chris's acoustics are inspiring and the inlay work is incredible. Thanks for this review.
I find your youtube content so encouraging as I suffer with depression and sometimes lack the motivation to get into my workshop. I build mainly acoustic guitars at the moment and I do want to build some electric guitars as well next year. I would appreciate being considered as the new owner of these files. Thank you for taking the time to post so many good quality videos. Symon.
So far all the Music Nomad products I have tried have been great. I been wanting these files but I have not been able to afford them at the moment. I would love a set. Thank you.
Excellent comparison of the products. We watched the video you produced when you received the Stewnac files and found it very interesting and informative. When you start out ,your work is only as good as the tools you are working with. You are exceptional in your teaching. Keep up the good work, we are two of your biggest fans. Big shout out from East Coast Canadian novice guitar builder, Thanks, from Victor!
I'm 72 years old and still playing out with my band, Three Chords and a BEER. I took a week course on refretting electric guitars 40 years ago with Dan Erlewine. This got me going to working on and building my own guitars. About 35 years ago I bought a set of German nut files from StewMAC, The .010 file never worked right. I discovered about 15 years ago that this file was flat on the bottom not rounded. The flat slot made the high E string buzz. I bought a set of the double edge files from StewMac and problem solved. I Have been looking at the StewMac diamond files but the price for me is just out of reach. I found the Music Nomad diamond files about two months ago. I've been looking for a "real' review and found yours today. THANK YOU! To see your review is very helpful. The Music Nomad video shows how to take the file out of the plastic holder wen starting slots so you can see your mark better. My double-edge files work fine but I can see the value of the diamond edge because I have the StewMac diamond edge fret crowning file. It would be great to have your demo set of the Nomad files to start building a larger set. Thanks again.
Hey guys, I absolutely love this channel. I fisrt discovered it while researching a Taylor purchase. Your honest and thourough reviews, and "cutting in half" really go far beyond any other comparison out there. You explain techniques on building your own instrument are equally educational. About the Nomad files, would I love to 'win' the set, sure, but there are others here who are more deserving. I'm glad I saw you use those Stew Mac ones, as you indicated, have a premium performance. Got to save some money away for those. I am in the process of building my own shop to do local repair/setups and build my own electrics (your Tele style;s are GORGEOUS!). Thanks again Chris and Max, and keep the great content coming! -Dave
I would love to have these files! My 33rd birthday is December 15th. I’m m a one income dad supporting a 5 person household. I’ve been playing since I was 14 and just recently started learning how to do setups and routine maintenance as well as the occasional repair( I’ve only done 2 bridges but i’m not a business, these are my instruments). I recently bought the hosco light acoustic nut files. I’d love to try these! Huge fan. Thanks guys!
I’ve been looking to pull the trigger on these for a while and it’s nice to see that they are worth it for someone like me looking to get into doing set ups.
I have been using a basic file set for a few years now, but in the last few months my business has GREATLY increased and these would suuuuuuure come in handy. Either way THANK YOU for the vid. As above mentioned I need new files and this will help single out which set to get!
Thanks again for taking the time to make the video. I have been using the old style StewMac nut files for years. As I am now semi retired I only do a few guitars a week so I don’t think I will get a set of the new StewMac diamond files, the less expensive set would be a great addition to my tool kit. Pete Towers PS: I noticed that you have a StewMac ‘Rock and roll’ neck rest on your bench, I sent in the idea for that to StewMac about 30 years ago! If only I had the patent, I could have got about 15 cents per unit and could be $30- $40 richer by now
I've been a repair man since the 70's. Nut files were so hard to find in those days. Had to use all kinds of small files, saw blades, and luck. I've been using Stew Mac steel files. I would like to try the Music Nomad to see how well the diamond files work. BTW I really enjoy your videos, and have picked up a lot of pointers. You guys are doing a great service to your viewers. Thanks
I'm happy I found your channel and have been going through your older videos. Keep it up! I've been going back and forth on stew mac vs music nomad tools so i really appreciate a review like this. Of course winning the giveaway would put that to rest.
I really appreciate how much you guys are willing to share to show us how you go about making guitars. Thank you! Winning these would go a long way towards being able to start building a few guitars of my own.
@@kanker5256 I don’t want to argue, but I’ve never seen any good results from people trying to improvise nut files. As I said initially, these would go a long way in helping me (my situation isn’t your situation) build guitars and work on my own. Anyways, have a good day.
Thanks for the comparison. I’m still using a set of hand-me-down files from a luthier friend who inspired me to start building mandolins. Every time I buy a tool is a shot in the dark. I’ve learned that cheap is often a waste of money. Thanks for help. You seem to enjoy your work.
I bought one of the stewmac nut files last year to try it out and there great . I probably won't will buy the rest of the set due to price. stewmac makes great tools but I'm a part time builder . Thanks for the review too.
Thanks guys. I've had the old style Stew Mac nut files for a couple of years and they work fine for me. Set of 6 for about $100. Also a good choice for part timers like me.
I have found in the past two to three years that most new guitars from major brands have very poorly cut nut grooves. Learning how to properly cut and back-file the nut has been essential as a guitar owner. My friends now bring their new guitars to me for a quick review and adjustment. I enjoy knowing that I can fix these issues myself.
i just bought one Music Nomad file because i had a .056 string that didnt fit my brass nut that so i needed to make the slot bigger and it worked perfectly a few passes and it was done and i paid 15 bucks for the file so well worth it . The good thing is that they sell them individually as well so u can buy just the ones u need when u need it
I bought the Stew-Mac ones. I only bought the sizes I needed for what I work on. Electric guitars and acoustic steel and classical acoustics. There are two different size handles, 1 for thinner files and 1 for thicker files. I bought one of each so all I have to do is change to the file I need. No need to buy a handle for each file. Saves money. But a handle for each file will save time in the long run. My total was $215 and $247 with tax + shipping. I bought 11 files at $18 each and two handles at $12 each. These numbers are rounded up to the next highest dollar. I ordered them on oct 18th, 2021 so these prices are for that date. I only stick 5/16" of the file out of one end of the handle. The file is still pretty rigid, and you can still see what you are doing without the handle being in your way as you are starting the slot. They will bind in the slot if you are working with a material that is a little too thick. I started with thicker material at first so I could recover if I got off track. I would touch the walls a little as I went down to alleviate the binding. Once I got used to the files, I took the nut height down before cutting the slots. Taking a nut blank height down close to the final top of the nut height will prevent or lessen the binding. I hope this helps someone that buys the Stew-Mac ones. I like my Stew-Mac ones. They cut well and don't tend to overcut when being careful. That helps your learning curve be more successful.
Very curious to see how they perform. Was wanting to put a new nut on my acoustic that I’m currently working on, and definitely didn’t want to shell out for the StewMac files for just one job.
Loved the video, thank you for the comparison! By the way, from what I understand, you can pull the file out of the nomad ones so that you have better view of your work if needed. Thanks again, you got my subscription :)
Something you may not know regarding the issue of the top of the Music Nomad files handles blocking your view - the file sections can be easily taken out of the plastic handles. Just pull the tip down & off. The file part itself is small but you can get extremely precise without the plastic handle.
I will soon be building my first Guitar, I am super excited, and to gather all the tools is… well you guys of all, probably know how much it costs. So these Files would really help. Anyways, even if i won‘t get them, thank you very much for the opportunity, and for all the content of your channel. Thanks.
I don't have the Nomad files, but I have bought several Music Nomad guages and tools and I am very satisfied with Music Nomad products. I have to say that I like the engineering of the Music Nomad files. Thanks for the review.
Very glad you were able to do the comparison. I do not need a file set so please don’t enter me into the giveaway ( I just purchased a set ). Good luck to whoever wins them, having nut files are an excellent addition to any tool collection.
I need a set of these files. I was out of work for awhile And was doing some set up work just using my standard tools. For some spending cash… having the right tool for the job is so important.
Thanks for the review. I got an Heritage ES electric and owner had cut the original nut so low it buzzes so, I got a tusq nut, have the music nomad ones on the list. I remember I replace the cracked plastic nut on a classical in college and used regular files files to get the shape and burned thru box cutter razors to get the initial groove marks and using old electric 9's g string to hack in the slots. Worked, but took some time .
I would love to be able to get these files. I've been slowly building up a tool kit to start my hand at fixing older guitars with the hopes of building an acoustic guitar one day. Your channel has been a big inspiration so far and has really helped provide a good perspective on instument making im general.
i am not 100% certain i would need the files or not. but thanks to you guys along with others on you tube i have been starting to make repairs on an old 1970'ish ensenada 12 string that me and a cpl friends saved from a trash pile waaaay back in the early 90's when we were teens. i will be taking on a neck repair next.
I have been looking at nut files just recently. As well as learning guitar for retirement, I have found I enjoy working on them as well. I have an Epiphone ES-335 that needs the nut slots set deeper, but really don't want to take it in when I have an opportunity to learn something new. Thanks for the review!
I’m just getting back into woodworking again after a few years off. I learned everything from RUclips because no one I know did it but I’m wanting to build guitars. I’ve actually to for 5+ years now but was always intimidated and I just need the guitar specific tools. I was already looking at the MusicNomad stuff because I already used their cleaner, neckrest, and nut lube. Thanks for doing this review and I would love to have them.
I have a full set of the Music Nomad files and so far I’ve reslotted a 35” 4-string bass so it can be tuned to BEAD with heavier strings, also widen the slots on my Ultra VI Bass for heavier strings from Stringjoy, and on a inexpensive acoustic that was pinching the strings and pinging and achieved wonderful results. I also used StewMac’s nut rescue powder kit and fixed a low nut slot issue with these files and it worked well.
Love to have a set if those Music Nomad nut file! I haven’t pulled the trigger yet on a set, but I am nearing the end of my Build and the nut is next! Love your guitars and your videos!
I'd love to give these Music Nomad files a try. I do all of my own work, but a set of nut files is the one area that I haven't invested in yet. Thanks for the video!
Hosco makes three different types of nut files. First : the three double edged nuts files to a set with the colored handles; Second: the longer files with the red tang; and third: the compact, black nut files which require the holder. Which set would you recommend to a non-professional who only works on his own guitars? I've read that the double-edged three files to a set files cut the slots too wide. Is that true or were they probably talking about the cheap amazon/ebay knock-offs? How are the files with the red tangs used? It seems they don't require a holder, but what about the thin files for the high "E", "B" and "G" strings? How do you use those? ?
I love Stew Mac products. Better tools = better work, or at least more efficient work in most cases. I need these files because my nuts need a good filing. My wife says they’re too rough. Thanks for another great video guys!
I could definitely use these files, I have a very limited income and have been practicing working on my own guitars, honing my skills before I work on other peoples guitars. Im trying to find my groove in life and I think working on guitars is it. It's hard to get into that groove with so little money Edit: I also do what I can with wood working when I have access to tools and space, some day I WILL be making guitars, it's my dream
Have been using the stewmac regular nut files for awhile now. Was looking at the diamond ones from them lately and would purchase them if i had the funds for sure. I recently discovered the music nomad files and thought that these would be a great compromise and your video really helped me to make up my mind on the music nomads. I will purchase four from my classical and flamenco guitars and i'm sure they will do the job just fine for me. Thanks!
I'd like the files because I use the old file like yours. I've had mine for 10 years and building my electric guitars with Stu-Mac, LMI, and Harbor Freight and Grizzly. I'm doing and finishing 10 e guitars and so on. I can't leave my home due to a generic disk disease and the building my guitars helps with the pain. I'll take any hand me downs without complaints of any kind. I also bought my wood stock from 2010 to 2016, no treaties stopped me. I started to build guitars since 2020 for the 10 I started!
Man, I could really use a set of those. I have always wanted to build guitars, and finally have started one. Progress is slow, in part because I can't afford all the tools needed. I've already spent a lot of money, and I'm only halfway through the build. Any help I can get would be amazing. Thanks for all the cool tips. I only found your channel a month or so ago, but I'm really glad you guys are doing what you do.
I would really like to have these MusicNomad nut files; I’ve been trying to get by with a set of needle files I bought like 50 years ago. So yeah, they would be a most excellent addition to my little kitchen guitar tinkering lab. Thanks for the chance guys!
Thank you for all your great tips and advice. These look good. I've just picked up and old guitar I'm trying to fix and get playable. Something to get into repairs and lutherie.
Many, many years ago, I needed nut files but couldn't find where to get them (no net back then!). Frustrated, I had the idea of flattening out the set on a junior hacksaw blade and then grinding it to a desired thickness. Along with a little tickling with some smooth emery, it worked really well, so I made a few more. I haven't used them for years now, but I've still got them, ..somewhere!
Hi, I am an University Professor that is 65 years old and nearing retirement. My plan is to to do hobby luthier work during retirement and I am currently building up my tools. This would be a great addition. Thanks, Bryan
I've been learning how to do repairs and setups and this year I'm taking on the schematic ukulele kit I've always wanted to learn how to build acoustic instruments and after looking at the kit the plastic nut is going to have to go these nut files will definitely be perfect for my first project and probably much better than sandpaper in a feeler gauge
Since there aren't many places for me to get my hands on dozens of guitars, I'm planning on building a series of bolt on necks with different widths and profiles so I can try to figure out which I like best. These nut files would be very helpful in that regard. Edited to add: The Amazon link in the description shows that the files can be removed from the yellow handles and used very much like the Stew Mac files.
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One item missed: The Music Nomad files can be removed from their plastic handles, you don't have to use them. Then you can sight right down them the same way as the Stew Mac files.
I have and use the Music Nomad nut files. I've had no issues with them at all. And at 20% of the cost of the Stew Mac files they are hands down the best bargain in my opinion.
There's a chance that the more affordable diamond abrasives follow some abrasive industry standards where there is a wider size disbursement and randomized shape of diamonds in each grade....? Within the business, it's sometimes called "saw" grade, referring to the acceptable grading on affordable cutting devices. The simple solution is to draw the new cutter over a steel edge (shelf, vice, etc) to remove the high spots and the device will settle into a more even and predictable behavior. Thanks for the comparo!
The side of a lap stone will do that very thing. In fact, that's one of the jobs they're actually for. If a person happens to also be into knives, like me, the may have a lap stone for cleaning and surfacing, or "settling in new diamond sharpening plates.
I’m looking for some new nut files, since my 25 year old StewMac ones are wearing out, this video was very helpful. Here’s a tip I discovered that helps a lot to get accurate slot placement: I use my jeweler’s saw with a super fine blade to cut right on the pencil mark first, then start each slot with a fine file. Makes things much easier, for me at least. Thanks for your entertaining and informative videos!
Stew Mac will replace your old files free of charge, but you probably already know that
This would be a great upgrade. I've been using feeler gauges that I cut teeth into. It works... but not well. I would definitely appreciate an actual set of files
Wry important note. The Music Nomad set makes it possible to remove the cutting blade from the handle which is VERY important to know.
I have this set of Music Nomad files and just built my first hand-made bone nut. These files are great, but I can confirm that they will jump slot on you if you're not careful. They also can cut VERY fast, but that slows down after some use. I'm a hobbyist and don't make any money (yet) doing guitar work, but I do not regret the money spent for the Music Nomad set. I do plan on getting some supplemental sizes to add to my kit at some point.
You can take the Music Nomad file out of the handle to get the slot started. It let's you see a little better.
I LOVE the Music Nomad files! The comparison in price almost makes it sound like Music Nomad is the "inexpensive" option, but $90 for a set of files is still pricey. But they are by far the best value for the money and they're great quality and work very well! Great video!
You can remove the tip of the handle, and take the actual file out, that helps, when having to start the initial slots.
I'm using these, right now, on a bass nut, which I made from a blank of TUSQ.
Also, in regards to the "crunchy" feeling you're talking about, when slotting with the Music Nomad files, it all comes down to the grit of the particular file.. Some are 150 grit and some are 300, and that might be the reason why.
I always score the slots with a razor saw first so that skipping out of the slot is never an issue.
I'm 68, looking to retire, and am building up my tool set for more dedicated guitar building and any help to the limited budget would be awesome. Absolutely LOVE your channel and look forward to each and every video. THANKS.
Apparently the file can be removed from the plastic holder to start the slot in a new nut making the view and beginning cut that much easier. Now I want them even more :)
I'd love to try the $90 ones against the Japanese ebay nut slot files I got :). They were $60. As a hobbyist I can't begin to justify buying the StewMac ones for the price of one of my builds 😬
Really, sounds like an inexspensive build
@@jimdoner3443lol . Not everyone is a trust fund baby.
Thanks Chris and Matt, learned a lot from your channel - nut filing is something I always feel frightened to do myself, mostly due to my amazon 6 dollars set does not work very well, I almost always end up taking the off and file the bottom to get it lower, now I can use a good set. thank you - good luck to me!!!
I'm retired & have recently gotten into setting up guitars. I have found that I not only enjoy doing it but I'm also pretty good at it.
My only problem is I'm limited in what I can do because of the limited amount of tools I have, so it would sure be nice to win these files.
Hey guys - great video as always! I'm a guitar teacher in the UK and am slowly working my way through setting up all the nasty, ancient guitars at the school where I teach. Would love these files so I can do a decent job on the nuts.
Just bought a set of super light Music Nomad nut files. Haven’t tried them yet but they look like quality. You can remove them out of the plastic holder to sight easily.
Great video!
I just started learning to build and setup guitars on a budget. Fret files would take my nut work to the next level.
Thank you so much for the opportunity!
This was great to watch and I enjoyed the lesson. I am one of those guys that's retired and enjoys keeping my guitars set up, but there are limits to the funds needed to buy new tools. I did check out Music Nomad and there is an interesting aspect that was missed in your video... they come out of the holder and have an aluminum backing support. No doubt it wouldn't have changed your mind, but would make it easier to see the start of a cut. Thanks again, really enjoy you two and the work you do!!
yeah, take the thinnest one, remove it from the holder, and pre-score all the grooves and then you won't really have a problem letting the file immediately settle in the right place for the cut.
Sold me on the Stewmac. Excellent video. Got them months ago and am absolutely thrilled. I only use the backers for the .010", .013", and .016" gauge files, and used my label maker to make labels to stick onto the backers.
These are perfect. No more pinging nut slots. I used to crease a piece of 1500 sandpaper, wet it, and sand the nut slots to smooth the sides to get that dreaded ping to go away. Haven't had to do this a single time since using these files. The "U" shape that they cut is just perfect.
I still use my old standard nut files. Mostly for my nut slot spacing technique I came up with, that requires nut files that have smooth sides.
The diamond files are especially a joy to use when cutting fretless nut slots, e.g. fretless guitar/bass or violin. There's a finesse you can get when getting the strings to the perfect depth that you just can't get with standard nut files. The cut is smooth and perfect...and again, no dreaded ping.
I'm sure the Music Nomad files are fantastic as well. For the lifetime guarantee and wanting the absolute best quality possible, I'm glad I went with Stewmac. I've been doing this a very long time and my biggest regrets with tool purchases have been wishing I spent more for the best I could afford. These have definitely been the most major upgrade to my nut making tools in a long time.
Great timing for me. I've been trying to research these and the Hosco files. I'd really like to buy stew mac's but for my occasional use it wouldn't make sense. Plus that's more than I'm willing to spend right now. I'd love to have the music nomads. Mainly for set-up on my son's guitars along with mine. Plus I'm working on my first build.
I don't think you mentioned this in your video, but you can take the Music Nomad files out of their holders. This makes it much easier to see what you are doing.
For the sight-in problem you noted around the 10 minute mark, maybe get one StewMac file - the thinnest they have - and use that to run a shallow groove with just one pass on the marked line. Then go to the sized Nomad file to finish.
I am currently using the stewmac non diamond nut slotting files. I just purchased a couple of the backers. The Music Nomad B-File for beveling fret ends is wonderful.
The Stew Mac files don't come in sizes for bass guitar. Music Nomad files do offer a few sizes for bass guitar. I was looking for files to set up an instrument using the string sizes listed below, and neither of these diamond files come in sizes that will work for this instrument.
0.040”
0.060”
0.075”
0.095”
Loving the content you guys are putting out the last 6 months. Awesome job guys. This channel is going to grow and grow I hope!
Thanks a lot for the shootout ! I'm in need of an upgrade to my nut files and have had my eye on the Music Nomad set for a little while.
I have two electric guitars that have a problem string that I believe angling the nut slot might solve. The D string on my 1960 SG Junior and the G string on my Schecter S type Nick Johnson both vibrate like sitar strings. The best information I can find online is that this is caused by the nut not being angled down, thus causing the string to make contact across the width of the nut slot and messing up the quality of its vibration. I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on this Chris before I try angling the slot myself. At any rate, that's the initial reason why I would want the nut slot files. Your channel is a joy to watch... informative and fun!
For the past 10 years or so, I have used the Hiroshima file set from LMII, with a few of the standard nut files from Stewmac for ones not in that set. They work fine, but they are fragile, particularly the smaller ones. In fact, I broke to 10 thou one.
I build regularly, and would love a set of these.
Just recently I was considering building a guitar for my grandson as a Christmas present . Found your channel on RUclips and was really blown away by the dynamics involved in creating a precision musical instrument. Figured I should wait till I have better tools and understanding of the process. So another words I have no tools other than a router, drill press and table saw. I think you guys are very generous to do this to show people how to build their own guitar. I am a keyboard player played and have played in several bands, but I would love to make my grandson a quality guitar.
I retired 3 years ago just getting started in building and repairing guitars as a hobby. These nut files would be nice have. All the information on your channel is the best thanks.
I just got the music nomad files they work well for just setting up my guitars at home.
I am in the process of building my shop in a return to Lutherie after a 15 year absence. My old Stew Mac files are looking at being replaced / upgraded. Chris's acoustics are inspiring and the inlay work is incredible. Thanks for this review.
I find your youtube content so encouraging as I suffer with depression and sometimes lack the motivation to get into my workshop. I build mainly acoustic guitars at the moment and I do want to build some electric guitars as well next year. I would appreciate being considered as the new owner of these files. Thank you for taking the time to post so many good quality videos. Symon.
So far all the Music Nomad products I have tried have been great. I been wanting these files but I have not been able to afford them at the moment. I would love a set. Thank you.
Excellent comparison of the products. We watched the video you produced when you received the Stewnac files and found it very interesting and informative. When you start out ,your work is only as good as the tools you are working with. You are exceptional in your teaching. Keep up the good work, we are two of your biggest fans. Big shout out from East Coast Canadian novice guitar builder, Thanks, from Victor!
I'm 72 years old and still playing out with my band, Three Chords and a BEER. I took a week course on refretting electric guitars 40 years ago with Dan Erlewine. This got me going to working on and building my own guitars. About 35 years ago I bought a set of German nut files from StewMAC, The .010 file never worked right. I discovered about 15 years ago that this file was flat on the bottom not rounded. The flat slot made the high E string buzz. I bought a set of the double edge files from StewMac and problem solved. I Have been looking at the StewMac diamond files but the price for me is just out of reach. I found the Music Nomad diamond files about two months ago. I've been looking for a "real' review and found yours today. THANK YOU! To see your review is very helpful. The Music Nomad video shows how to take the file out of the plastic holder wen starting slots so you can see your mark better. My double-edge files work fine but I can see the value of the diamond edge because I have the StewMac diamond edge fret crowning file. It would be great to have your demo set of the Nomad files to start building a larger set. Thanks again.
Working on my first full build and I've been chewing on how im gonna do the nut these would be a huge blessing
Hey guys, I absolutely love this channel. I fisrt discovered it while researching a Taylor purchase. Your honest and thourough reviews, and "cutting in half" really go far beyond any other comparison out there. You explain techniques on building your own instrument are equally educational. About the Nomad files, would I love to 'win' the set, sure, but there are others here who are more deserving. I'm glad I saw you use those Stew Mac ones, as you indicated, have a premium performance. Got to save some money away for those. I am in the process of building my own shop to do local repair/setups and build my own electrics (your Tele style;s are GORGEOUS!). Thanks again Chris and Max, and keep the great content coming! -Dave
Nice to see there is a relatively affordable nut file option out there, thanks for the review.
I would love to have these files! My 33rd birthday is December 15th. I’m m a one income dad supporting a 5 person household. I’ve been playing since I was 14 and just recently started learning how to do setups and routine maintenance as well as the occasional repair( I’ve only done 2 bridges but i’m not a business, these are my instruments). I recently bought the hosco light acoustic nut files. I’d love to try these! Huge fan. Thanks guys!
I’ve been looking to pull the trigger on these for a while and it’s nice to see that they are worth it for someone like me looking to get into doing set ups.
I have been using a basic file set for a few years now, but in the last few months my business has GREATLY increased and these would suuuuuuure come in handy. Either way THANK YOU for the vid. As above mentioned I need new files and this will help single out which set to get!
Those guitars have the most beautiful headstock I think I've ever seen. Thank you for sharing. Have a blessed day.
Thanks again for taking the time to make the video. I have been using the old style StewMac nut files for years. As I am now semi retired I only do a few guitars a week so I don’t think I will get a set of the new StewMac diamond files, the less expensive set would be a great addition to my tool kit.
Pete Towers
PS: I noticed that you have a StewMac ‘Rock and roll’ neck rest on your bench, I sent in the idea for that to StewMac about 30 years ago! If only I had the patent, I could have got about 15 cents per unit and could be $30- $40 richer by now
I've been a repair man since the 70's. Nut files were so hard to find in those days. Had to use all kinds of small files, saw blades, and luck. I've been using Stew Mac steel files. I would like to try the Music Nomad to see how well the diamond files work. BTW I really enjoy your videos, and have picked up a lot of pointers. You guys are doing a great service to your viewers. Thanks
I'm happy I found your channel and have been going through your older videos. Keep it up! I've been going back and forth on stew mac vs music nomad tools so i really appreciate a review like this. Of course winning the giveaway would put that to rest.
I really appreciate how much you guys are willing to share to show us how you go about making guitars. Thank you! Winning these would go a long way towards being able to start building a few guitars of my own.
its very little
you need way more than that
@@kanker5256 This is one of those things I don't already have.
@@OperationStackola247
yes, but you can find one or improvise one easily. unlike glues, presses, jointer blades etc...
@@kanker5256 I don’t want to argue, but I’ve never seen any good results from people trying to improvise nut files. As I said initially, these would go a long way in helping me (my situation isn’t your situation) build guitars and work on my own. Anyways, have a good day.
Thanks for the comparison. I’m still using a set of hand-me-down files from a luthier friend who inspired me to start building mandolins. Every time I buy a tool is a shot in the dark. I’ve learned that cheap is often a waste of money. Thanks for help. You seem to enjoy your work.
I bought one of the stewmac nut files last year to try it out and there great . I probably won't will buy the rest of the set due to price. stewmac makes great tools but I'm a part time builder . Thanks for the review too.
Thanks guys. I've had the old style Stew Mac nut files for a couple of years and they work fine for me. Set of 6 for about $100. Also a good choice for part timers like me.
I have found in the past two to three years that most new guitars from major brands have very poorly cut nut grooves. Learning how to properly cut and back-file the nut has been essential as a guitar owner. My friends now bring their new guitars to me for a quick review and adjustment. I enjoy knowing that I can fix these issues myself.
I need a set ... Just started building electrics after 30 years of only acoustic builds... Keep up the good work Love the channel...
Where have you guys been?
i just bought one Music Nomad file because i had a .056 string that didnt fit my brass nut that so i needed to make the slot bigger and it worked perfectly a few passes and it was done and i paid 15 bucks for the file
so well worth it . The good thing is that they sell them individually as well so u can buy just the ones u need when u need it
I bought the Stew-Mac ones. I only bought the sizes I needed for what I work on. Electric guitars and acoustic steel and classical acoustics. There are two different size handles, 1 for thinner files and 1 for thicker files. I bought one of each so all I have to do is change to the file I need. No need to buy a handle for each file. Saves money. But a handle for each file will save time in the long run. My total was $215 and $247 with tax + shipping. I bought 11 files at $18 each and two handles at $12 each. These numbers are rounded up to the next highest dollar. I ordered them on oct 18th, 2021 so these prices are for that date. I only stick 5/16" of the file out of one end of the handle. The file is still pretty rigid, and you can still see what you are doing without the handle being in your way as you are starting the slot. They will bind in the slot if you are working with a material that is a little too thick. I started with thicker material at first so I could recover if I got off track. I would touch the walls a little as I went down to alleviate the binding. Once I got used to the files, I took the nut height down before cutting the slots. Taking a nut blank height down close to the final top of the nut height will prevent or lessen the binding. I hope this helps someone that buys the Stew-Mac ones. I like my Stew-Mac ones. They cut well and don't tend to overcut when being careful. That helps your learning curve be more successful.
I'd love them! I work on guitars(and amps) and have for 45 years. Stew-Mac is great! Thanks for letting me enter!
Very curious to see how they perform. Was wanting to put a new nut on my acoustic that I’m currently working on, and definitely didn’t want to shell out for the StewMac files for just one job.
Loved the video, thank you for the comparison!
By the way, from what I understand, you can pull the file out of the nomad ones so that you have better view of your work if needed.
Thanks again, you got my subscription :)
Something you may not know regarding the issue of the top of the Music Nomad files handles blocking your view - the file sections can be easily taken out of the plastic handles. Just pull the tip down & off. The file part itself is small but you can get extremely precise without the plastic handle.
I will soon be building my first Guitar, I am super excited, and to gather all the tools is… well you guys of all, probably know how much it costs. So these Files would really help. Anyways, even if i won‘t get them, thank you very much for the opportunity, and for all the content of your channel. Thanks.
I'm just getting started in lutherie, and something like this set of files would go a long way in helping on my journey.
I don't have the Nomad files, but I have bought several Music Nomad guages and tools and I am very satisfied with Music Nomad products. I have to say that I like the engineering of the Music Nomad files. Thanks for the review.
Very glad you were able to do the comparison.
I do not need a file set so please don’t enter me into the giveaway ( I just purchased a set ).
Good luck to whoever wins them, having nut files are an excellent addition to any tool collection.
I need a set of these files. I was out of work for awhile And was doing some set up work just using my standard tools. For some spending cash… having the right tool for the job is so important.
I'm gonna build my first guitar in 2022 and these files would be a good start on tools !
Thanks for the review. I got an Heritage ES electric and owner had cut the original nut so low it buzzes so, I got a tusq nut, have the music nomad ones on the list. I remember I replace the cracked plastic nut on a classical in college and used regular files files to get the shape and burned thru box cutter razors to get the initial groove marks and using old electric 9's g string to hack in the slots. Worked, but took some time .
I would love to have a set of nut files. Been in the market for quite some time. So glad you guys decided to check these out.
I would love to be able to get these files. I've been slowly building up a tool kit to start my hand at fixing older guitars with the hopes of building an acoustic guitar one day. Your channel has been a big inspiration so far and has really helped provide a good perspective on instument making im general.
i am not 100% certain i would need the files or not. but thanks to you guys along with others on you tube i have been starting to make repairs on an old 1970'ish ensenada 12 string that me and a cpl friends saved from a trash pile waaaay back in the early 90's when we were teens. i will be taking on a neck repair next.
I really like how you guys compared the stew Mac and music nomad products to help us determine which would work best for our situations.
I have been looking at nut files just recently. As well as learning guitar for retirement, I have found I enjoy working on them as well. I have an Epiphone ES-335 that needs the nut slots set deeper, but really don't want to take it in when I have an opportunity to learn something new. Thanks for the review!
I’m just getting back into woodworking again after a few years off. I learned everything from RUclips because no one I know did it but I’m wanting to build guitars. I’ve actually to for 5+ years now but was always intimidated and I just need the guitar specific tools. I was already looking at the MusicNomad stuff because I already used their cleaner, neckrest, and nut lube. Thanks for doing this review and I would love to have them.
I'd love the Music Nomad nut files. Thanks! Happy Holidays.
I have a full set of the Music Nomad files and so far I’ve reslotted a 35” 4-string bass so it can be tuned to BEAD with heavier strings, also widen the slots on my Ultra VI Bass for heavier strings from Stringjoy, and on a inexpensive acoustic that was pinching the strings and pinging and achieved wonderful results. I also used StewMac’s nut rescue powder kit and fixed a low nut slot issue with these files and it worked well.
Does it shape the slot to circle? Same as the string.
@@bassyey Yes, it does.
@@robertpurdy4452 Thanks dude, was worried it will come like those cheapos with V shape.
I could definitely use those files, I have been using torch tip cleaners and cut feeler gauges and it would be a huge upgrade.
Love to have a set if those Music Nomad nut file! I haven’t pulled the trigger yet on a set, but I am nearing the end of my Build and the nut is next! Love your guitars and your videos!
I'd love to give these Music Nomad files a try. I do all of my own work, but a set of nut files is the one area that I haven't invested in yet. Thanks for the video!
Hosco makes three different types of nut files. First : the three double edged nuts files to a set with the colored handles; Second: the longer files with the red tang; and third: the compact, black nut files which require the holder. Which set would you recommend to a non-professional who only works on his own guitars? I've read that the double-edged three files to a set files cut the slots too wide. Is that true or were they probably talking about the cheap amazon/ebay knock-offs? How are the files with the red tangs used? It seems they don't require a holder, but what about the thin files for the high "E", "B" and "G" strings? How do you use those? ?
Amateur ukulele luthier from Japan here, been awesome watching your guys video, and yeah, I could definitely use better nut files right now :)
I love Stew Mac products. Better tools = better work, or at least more efficient work in most cases. I need these files because my nuts need a good filing. My wife says they’re too rough. Thanks for another great video guys!
Quick question, these Music Nomad or the old StewMac nut files? (the red and black ones) Just started working with nuts
I could definitely use these files, I have a very limited income and have been practicing working on my own guitars, honing my skills before I work on other peoples guitars. Im trying to find my groove in life and I think working on guitars is it. It's hard to get into that groove with so little money
Edit: I also do what I can with wood working when I have access to tools and space, some day I WILL be making guitars, it's my dream
Have been using the stewmac regular nut files for awhile now. Was looking at the diamond ones from them lately and would purchase them if i had the funds for sure. I recently discovered the music nomad files and thought that these would be a great compromise and your video really helped me to make up my mind on the music nomads. I will purchase four from my classical and flamenco guitars and i'm sure they will do the job just fine for me. Thanks!
I have no plans of ever becoming a luthier but love to tinker on my own guitars. Great review. Thanks so much.
Currently building my first guitar through lockdown here in NZ, would be great to have these files to do the nut.
I'd like the files because I use the old file like yours. I've had mine for 10 years and building my electric guitars with Stu-Mac, LMI, and Harbor Freight and Grizzly. I'm doing and finishing 10 e guitars and so on. I can't leave my home due to a generic disk disease and the building my guitars helps with the pain. I'll take any hand me downs without complaints of any kind. I also bought my wood stock from 2010 to 2016, no treaties stopped me. I started to build guitars since 2020 for the 10 I started!
Time for a set of mid-priced "Driftwood Guitars" Nut-slot files for purchase ??? Always enjoy your interesting content. You guys are great.
Man, I could really use a set of those. I have always wanted to build guitars, and finally have started one. Progress is slow, in part because I can't afford all the tools needed. I've already spent a lot of money, and I'm only halfway through the build. Any help I can get would be amazing. Thanks for all the cool tips. I only found your channel a month or so ago, but I'm really glad you guys are doing what you do.
I’m diving deep into guitar setups and repairs and would be much blessed with a set of files, thank you! As always, awesome and super helpful content!
I just received a set of the Music Nomad files about an hour ago. I can't wait to try them!👍😎🎸🎶
I would really like to have these MusicNomad nut files; I’ve been trying to get by with a set of needle files I bought like 50 years ago. So yeah, they would be a most excellent addition to my little kitchen guitar tinkering lab. Thanks for the chance guys!
Thank you for all your great tips and advice. These look good. I've just picked up and old guitar I'm trying to fix and get playable. Something to get into repairs and lutherie.
Many, many years ago, I needed nut files but couldn't find where to get them (no net back then!). Frustrated, I had the idea of flattening out the set on a junior hacksaw blade and then grinding it to a desired thickness. Along with a little tickling with some smooth emery, it worked really well, so I made a few more. I haven't used them for years now, but I've still got them, ..somewhere!
Wouldn't it be just as hard to see the Stewmac files with using the handle device?
Exactly , take the Music Nomad files out of their handles to start slots and have even more control when you need it to be subtle and get the feel
Hi, I am an University Professor that is 65 years old and nearing retirement. My plan is to to do hobby luthier work during retirement and I am currently building up my tools. This would be a great addition. Thanks, Bryan
I've been learning how to do repairs and setups and this year I'm taking on the schematic ukulele kit I've always wanted to learn how to build acoustic instruments and after looking at the kit the plastic nut is going to have to go these nut files will definitely be perfect for my first project and probably much better than sandpaper in a feeler gauge
Since there aren't many places for me to get my hands on dozens of guitars, I'm planning on building a series of bolt on necks with different widths and profiles so I can try to figure out which I like best. These nut files would be very helpful in that regard.
Edited to add: The Amazon link in the description shows that the files can be removed from the yellow handles and used very much like the Stew Mac files.
I currently have the Hosco which are definitely fine. However, if I need to supplement sizes, may go for these. Thanks for the vid!