Hold on. You (as usual) left out a LOT of important information. This girl was: 1. Captured as a child. 2. Her traveling party was attacked and most of them killed including her parents her brother was left for dead but survived. 3. Traded between tribes and *eventually* wound up in a tribe that treated her well that she assimilated with. And because she might have been married to a mohave man and had kids with him *that* makes her a willing participant in your eyes?? So Elizabeth Smart was also a willing participant in your eyes? You're putting such a weird spin on this story by leaving out really important information and its not hard to find either.
@NM-iy6dd Oh you mean the part where she basically blames her family for being murdered? Yeah I saw that. And it still doesn't change the fact that she calls what basically amounts to a human trafficking survivor, a willing participant. When a person is kidnapped all "consent" given thereafter is null and void.
@@3katfoxcan't 100% apply our morals and standards to different times. Consent wasn't prioritized for probably most people. Survival was and survival is often not pretty
Agreed- Stockholm syndrome is real and can you imagine the heartbreak and fear she felt after losing the most important people in her life? She assimilated to survive. She still is a survivor.
The Mojave were like Maori people in New Zealand. They only tattooed people they adopted, not enslaved people. Olives tattoos look like Moko, which girls received once they reached puberty. Receiving moko is a sign you are loved and respected. Similar things happened here in Aotearoa. Women were expected to act broken after being freed from Maori. If they didn't play the part of victim they were shunned by white society. Olive didn't have much choice in the early events of her life. She wanted to survive in Mojave AND white society.
To the people blaming Olive for not escaping or getting help are really heartless. it has been proven over and over again that Stockholm Syndrome takes over. That or intense fear and lack of confidence regarding a successful escape.
No. It's not Stockholm Syndrome. She said it so many times that the second tribe that took her was nice, they were even more nice than her people (WHITE PEOPLE)
You should really do your research before making videos like this. The native Americans who killed her family and took her hostage did treat her like a slave and were terrible to her and her sister. Only when the Mojave tribes chief, wife, and traded with the trie that had her, was she treated fairly. The Mojave were kind to her and treated her like family. they are the ones who gave her those tattoos. So two separate tribes to speak about here. One evil and one beautiful. Please stop spreading misinformation. Also her husband was not from the Mojave tribe or any tribe for that matter. I stopped watching your video there because I couldn’t take the misinformation anymore but I’m sure there are other points you made that I could correct had I watch the whole thing. Why even make an informational video if you haven’t researched the topic first???? A little too old to be acting like that I think….
When someone is kidnapped that removes all potential argument of giving willing consent. Her family was murdered in front of her when she and her siste were captured by a different tribe that eventually traded her to the Mojave people. So if you call her a "willing participant" because she didn't go running off into a desert and possibly married a mohave man and had children then youre saying that ALL human traffiking victims are willing participants.
Well I’m just glad everything worked out OK 👌 for everyone. Between the “Indigenous people of color”, the “Colonizers “and certainty our Olive, who seems to have adapted in a way necessary to help ensure her survival. 👍-Way to go!!
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Hold on. You (as usual) left out a LOT of important information.
This girl was:
1. Captured as a child.
2. Her traveling party was attacked and most of them killed including her parents her brother was left for dead but survived.
3. Traded between tribes and *eventually* wound up in a tribe that treated her well that she assimilated with.
And because she might have been married to a mohave man and had kids with him *that* makes her a willing participant in your eyes??
So Elizabeth Smart was also a willing participant in your eyes?
You're putting such a weird spin on this story by leaving out really important information and its not hard to find either.
I will point out, this is a “Part 2”. So some of the things you’re rallying about were probably mentioned in Part 1
@NM-iy6dd
Oh you mean the part where she basically blames her family for being murdered? Yeah I saw that.
And it still doesn't change the fact that she calls what basically amounts to a human trafficking survivor, a willing participant.
When a person is kidnapped all "consent" given thereafter is null and void.
her 'white saviors?' you mean her rescuers! goddamn liberals...ick
@@3katfoxcan't 100% apply our morals and standards to different times. Consent wasn't prioritized for probably most people. Survival was and survival is often not pretty
Agreed- Stockholm syndrome is real and can you imagine the heartbreak and fear she felt after losing the most important people in her life? She assimilated to survive. She still is a survivor.
The Mojave were like Maori people in New Zealand. They only tattooed people they adopted, not enslaved people. Olives tattoos look like Moko, which girls received once they reached puberty. Receiving moko is a sign you are loved and respected. Similar things happened here in Aotearoa. Women were expected to act broken after being freed from Maori. If they didn't play the part of victim they were shunned by white society. Olive didn't have much choice in the early events of her life. She wanted to survive in Mojave AND white society.
Is a nickname meaning rotten womb go along with that😂
She was a survivor.
A survivor of what? Of her first captors? Yes but not the second tribe. They were nice to her and she even said they treated her better.
To the people blaming Olive for not escaping or getting help are really heartless. it has been proven over and over again that Stockholm Syndrome takes over. That or intense fear and lack of confidence regarding a successful escape.
No. It's not Stockholm Syndrome. She said it so many times that the second tribe that took her was nice, they were even more nice than her people (WHITE PEOPLE)
THIS 100%
Stockholm syndrome is real and sad.
babe they treated her better than white people
2 blankets and a horse was her Indian name
You should really do your research before making videos like this. The native Americans who killed her family and took her hostage did treat her like a slave and were terrible to her and her sister. Only when the Mojave tribes chief, wife, and traded with the trie that had her, was she treated fairly. The Mojave were kind to her and treated her like family. they are the ones who gave her those tattoos. So two separate tribes to speak about here. One evil and one beautiful. Please stop spreading misinformation. Also her husband was not from the Mojave tribe or any tribe for that matter. I stopped watching your video there because I couldn’t take the misinformation anymore but I’m sure there are other points you made that I could correct had I watch the whole thing. Why even make an informational video if you haven’t researched the topic first???? A little too old to be acting like that I think….
Great tattoo!!
She was not a slave, she was a willing participate.
When someone is kidnapped that removes all potential argument of giving willing consent.
Her family was murdered in front of her when she and her siste were captured by a different tribe that eventually traded her to the Mojave people.
So if you call her a "willing participant" because she didn't go running off into a desert and possibly married a mohave man and had children then youre saying that ALL human traffiking victims are willing participants.
Kidnapping is not consent lol
Well I’m just glad everything worked out OK 👌 for everyone. Between the “Indigenous people of color”, the “Colonizers “and certainty our Olive, who seems to have adapted in a way necessary to help ensure her survival. 👍-Way to go!!
"Colonizers?" What a truly racist, not to mention TRITE, expression. Of course, let's keep racism active and alive. By all means.....
Or maybe they were real colonizers which seem likely because if it was being used in a derogatory way she would have called them colonizers only
But they.. we’re colonizers.. 💀 they COLONIZED North America.
But that’s what they were? 🤷🏽♀️
@Patrick lily wood why did the word "colonizer" upset you?
@@soccer-v3p because he is a person who benefited off of it.