After using BT.L grips, this is the only mouse i've found that benefits from the consistency of a grip. I find my grip going between claw and fingertip depending on what my body feels good with that day. I also felt the same way about the Traigun, I settled on the Xten Control. That said I think its about biology, the MZ1 is super comfy for me. The lower click height, with the lock in grooves make me feel like I have more control when I track, and especially when I am flicking around. I prefer the pulsar monitor bungee! I would recommend.
As a fingertip gripper the MZ1's shape is one of the best I've held. I had the best aim I've had since the logi g303. The issue I have with the MZ1 is when I open my hand after holding it. It's so cramped and tense. I had to let it go for a bigger mouse because of longevity reasons. I am 24
@@kaazari I moved to a gpro wireless, got it second hand for 100 aud and I really enjoyed the shape I just recently got a super light and I think it’s my endgame mouse I’ll have to give it more time before I can say so for sure but it’s definitely the most comfortable I’ve had yet I use claw/fingertip I have large hands so I can easily just fingertip but I slightly rest my palm on the hump of the super light
@@reflectit5547 Brilliant, I don’t see myself upgrading or swapping anytime soon. I highly recommend digging through some reviews about it just to make sure it’s what u want. There’s a large variety of mice and the super light is on the expensive side, but in my opinion worth it, I just love the shape and it’s “perfectly balanced, as all things should be.”
had a similar experience with my viper mini. Since it is on the smaller side and my hands are on the medium-large side I was kinda forced to fingertip it, my aim was insane , I definitely peaked while using it but it would be really fatiguing to use after not too long , my consistency was really bad and even after sometime that it got better my hand was always so tense and even when playing fps games my wrist would die in the sense that I couldn't move it. Tried clawing it , it was better but still I had to put much more pressure than normal to have a consistent grip. So, after 1 year and a few months I decided to switch to a bigger mouse. I am currently on a gpro wireless wired clone and I have never felt more consistent with my grip.
I'm having the same issue with my Viper mini, it's way too small causing my hands to cramp over long periods of games. I feel my aim and consistency has improved with it rather, what's the gpw clone you have? If possible could I get a link to it
" scuffed edition " -- idk why is it scuffed its sounds fine, camera quality is decent-- " I don't know how to zoom in, guess I'll just get closer " The best kind of Scuffed editions
The shape is probably the best fingertip mouse i've tried stock. Internals are also pretty good. Honestly I was expecting mediocre cable, clicks etc. But it was actually pretty good. On par with the endgame gear mice. I was actually impressed.
i got the xm1r and have used it for like 3 months and its got scroll wheel issues and a double click issue that cant be fixed with software :( so ive ordered the razer viper mini instead :)
Why would a ftip grip hurt your wrist more than a claw grip? I feel like any of the guys agreeing with this lack some anatomy lessons. Due to the fact that you can make fine microadjustments with your fingers instead of your whole wrist, a ftip grip should be way healthier for wrist and overall. Just use a relaxed ftip grip. Whatever triangle form you made with your hands and fingers is definitely not a relaxed ftip grip. Most people getting tense or fatiguing are literally just using an overly aggressive ftip grip with their fingers constantly tensed up, which is not how you should ftip. If you have a relaxed ftip grip with slightly bend fingers, you are literally using the natural resting position of you hands/fingers. Compare that to a claw grip where you have to constantly use your wrist for every single movement.
Personally, when I claw I use significantly more elbow and shoulder than I do my wrist. Probably unique to my own way aiming, I'm sure there's people that go crazy with there wrists using claw too lol, I just don't find it comfortable for myself to do that.
idk this mouse is so great, no problems with my hands or anything. i play shooters daily and this one has ben one of the best for me and giving me the most consistent aim :) ben using it since he came out with it. iam 30 :)
19.5x11.5 and this mouse caught me off-guard. I somehow find it very good, it's interesting and that thick rear hump makes it work even for claw grip despite being targetted towards fingertipers.
@@ycyean8235 been through a few mice yo. people can have an opinion, too sensitive my guy.! keep playing your 2 side scrollers and good luck with that.
@@Rw_Domain I mean I can say the same thing it's only 1 person's opinion and nobody asked for it , if you think the mouse is bad just say, "it's not my cup of tea", saying the mouse is trash without giving any prior info is just like saying the mouse is non usable and straight up bad
@@ycyean8235 again a touch sensitive.. compared to other mice on the market this one just doesnt have too much going for it. high price tag for a wired mouse, hideous rgb and its not symmetrical rgb at that, and a very niche shape that is more than likely not tailored to the average or a new user of mice. next time ill sugar coat it a bit my guy. wish you the best
@@Rw_Domain you are literally calling sensitive while being a snowflake who is malding over a mouse shape that some people do like(minority yet they do ) and most people don't and yeah every in depth review pointed out those stuffs . again saying the mouse is not for everyone yet you are going into youtube comment section saying " this mouse is trash " for your own personal taste and if someone try to correct you , you are like , " yeah you are sensitive , I have used more mouse , I will sugar coat later" , I mean yeah no need to be so edgy
After using BT.L grips, this is the only mouse i've found that benefits from the consistency of a grip. I find my grip going between claw and fingertip depending on what my body feels good with that day.
I also felt the same way about the Traigun, I settled on the Xten Control.
That said I think its about biology, the MZ1 is super comfy for me. The lower click height, with the lock in grooves make me feel like I have more control when I track, and especially when I am flicking around.
I prefer the pulsar monitor bungee! I would recommend.
this man speaks like how my brain thinks except hes very calm and slow and my brain is in 1000x speed
As a fingertip gripper the MZ1's shape is one of the best I've held. I had the best aim I've had since the logi g303. The issue I have with the MZ1 is when I open my hand after holding it. It's so cramped and tense. I had to let it go for a bigger mouse because of longevity reasons. I am 24
Same, works like a dream but at the cost of messing your hand up lol
which bigger mouse are you using right now? something like razer viper mini?
@@kaazari I moved to a gpro wireless, got it second hand for 100 aud and I really enjoyed the shape I just recently got a super light and I think it’s my endgame mouse I’ll have to give it more time before I can say so for sure but it’s definitely the most comfortable I’ve had yet I use claw/fingertip I have large hands so I can easily just fingertip but I slightly rest my palm on the hump of the super light
@@reflectit5547 Brilliant, I don’t see myself upgrading or swapping anytime soon. I highly recommend digging through some reviews about it just to make sure it’s what u want. There’s a large variety of mice and the super light is on the expensive side, but in my opinion worth it, I just love the shape and it’s “perfectly balanced, as all things should be.”
how big is your hand if you dont mind me asking
had a similar experience with my viper mini. Since it is on the smaller side and my hands are on the medium-large side I was kinda forced to fingertip it, my aim was insane , I definitely peaked while using it but it would be really fatiguing to use after not too long , my consistency was really bad and even after sometime that it got better my hand was always so tense and even when playing fps games my wrist would die in the sense that I couldn't move it. Tried clawing it , it was better but still I had to put much more pressure than normal to have a consistent grip. So, after 1 year and a few months I decided to switch to a bigger mouse. I am currently on a gpro wireless wired clone and I have never felt more consistent with my grip.
I'm having the same issue with my Viper mini, it's way too small causing my hands to cramp over long periods of games. I feel my aim and consistency has improved with it rather, what's the gpw clone you have? If possible could I get a link to it
@@neil5679 MMPRO by Mars gaming
This is the most scuffed review of all time
" scuffed edition " -- idk why is it scuffed its sounds fine, camera quality is decent-- " I don't know how to zoom in, guess I'll just get closer "
The best kind of Scuffed editions
I can just feel RJN's pain calling his mouse RTS mouse lol
As a youngling I approve this mouse 👍
The shape is probably the best fingertip mouse i've tried stock.
Internals are also pretty good. Honestly I was expecting mediocre cable, clicks etc. But it was actually pretty good. On par with the endgame gear mice. I was actually impressed.
Viper mini was also really good fingertip atleast when I used it but cable was kinda dog
i love scuffed reviews, the fact u play rts is also nice
Is end game for fingertip?
I am not sure if this would work for me. 17x8.5cm hands and I use relaxed claw Any suggestions?
16.5x9 here and yeah I'd say it would work since I'm using claw and fingertip with it
Don't buy the one with a cable. It is done after 1.5 years. They can send you a replacement cable for 11 eur, but it's crap comparing to the original
@Rundik yep, had to give up on this mouse because the cable crapped out on me
Hey man how did you do the Desktop?(The Icons)
Nice Pad , i have too and is very good surface, Traigun
Hands down this is the new best underrated RUclipsr ❤️
Pretty rad keyboard you have there, bro.
Cool to see MZ1 opinion from RTS player
Not for me, I need some ergonomics haha
Scuffed Edition indeed eheh, great video 👌🏼
Please do a video on what life in Taiwan is like.
Thanks for the thoughts super helpful
whats that bungee you’re using?
its the bungee from xtrfy, came in a bundle with the mouse
Yeah claw it, or palm-claw it, your wrist will thank you if you have larger hands.
Did u say just it’s a “POG” mouse??? Omfg
PogOFF
A mouse review on ketamine. Nice.
i got the xm1r and have used it for like 3 months and its got scroll wheel issues and a double click issue that cant be fixed with software :( so ive ordered the razer viper mini instead :)
rvm is good 👍 just got one. the cable is really scratchy though and low on frame
@@j0ms146 I have no complaints with it! Just keep the cable taped to the back of your monitor or smth if you don’t have a mouse bungee haha
@@bigbob5103 no i have a really good custum bungee that pulls it straight up, mine is still really pressed against my mousepad.
When I hear "pog mouse", I was almost compelled to click off.
what mic u using and wow your accent is satisfying
Samson meteor mic but video is recorded with the mic on the camera I'm using which is the DJI pocket 2
which is better, just tell
What app are you using to make your windows home screen look like that?
Upupoo but the apps only in Chinese, you could do the same with wallpaper engine and rainmeter
Why would a ftip grip hurt your wrist more than a claw grip? I feel like any of the guys agreeing with this lack some anatomy lessons. Due to the fact that you can make fine microadjustments with your fingers instead of your whole wrist, a ftip grip should be way healthier for wrist and overall. Just use a relaxed ftip grip. Whatever triangle form you made with your hands and fingers is definitely not a relaxed ftip grip.
Most people getting tense or fatiguing are literally just using an overly aggressive ftip grip with their fingers constantly tensed up, which is not how you should ftip. If you have a relaxed ftip grip with slightly bend fingers, you are literally using the natural resting position of you hands/fingers.
Compare that to a claw grip where you have to constantly use your wrist for every single movement.
Personally, when I claw I use significantly more elbow and shoulder than I do my wrist. Probably unique to my own way aiming, I'm sure there's people that go crazy with there wrists using claw too lol, I just don't find it comfortable for myself to do that.
the scroll wheel is too far forward for people with less than 19cm hands
idk this mouse is so great, no problems with my hands or anything. i play shooters daily and this one has ben one of the best for me and giving me the most consistent aim :) ben using it since he came out with it. iam 30 :)
Cool for you, some of us are less fortunate. Have gotten rsi on and off since the ripe age of 17 lol
What is your keyboard ¿
Akko 3108v2
What are the size of your hands?
19x9cm
@@qonra Thank you!
Wasn't made for your hand size. I'm 17 x 10cm and this mouse is beyond perfect for FPS.
19.5x11.5 and this mouse caught me off-guard. I somehow find it very good, it's interesting and that thick rear hump makes it work even for claw grip despite being targetted towards fingertipers.
@@3ildcard It’s a great shape 🥰
Can you turn off its rgb?
yes
who let this name slide
I MASSIVELY disagree with everything you said in this video, but I some how still enjoy the video.. so good job?
Looks very uncomfortable .
boardzy who??!?! lol
your voice is handsome af . no homo
I dont think you can make a mouse more ugly lol
hi boardzy
this mouse is trash
like you?
@@ycyean8235 been through a few mice yo. people can have an opinion, too sensitive my guy.! keep playing your 2 side scrollers and good luck with that.
@@Rw_Domain I mean I can say the same thing
it's only 1 person's opinion and nobody asked for it , if you think the mouse is bad just say, "it's not my cup of tea", saying the mouse is trash without giving any prior info is just like saying the mouse is non usable and straight up bad
@@ycyean8235 again a touch sensitive.. compared to other mice on the market this one just doesnt have too much going for it. high price tag for a wired mouse, hideous rgb and its not symmetrical rgb at that, and a very niche shape that is more than likely not tailored to the average or a new user of mice. next time ill sugar coat it a bit my guy. wish you the best
@@Rw_Domain you are literally calling sensitive while being a snowflake who is malding over a mouse shape that some people do like(minority yet they do ) and most people don't and yeah every in depth review pointed out those stuffs . again saying the mouse is not for everyone
yet you are going into youtube comment section saying " this mouse is trash " for your own personal taste and if someone try to correct you , you are like , " yeah you are sensitive , I have used more mouse , I will sugar coat later" ,
I mean yeah no need to be so edgy
boardzy wannabe