Yup. Let's not forget that the northern Irish are considered both Irish and British atm, as per the good Friday agreement. Brexit boarders make northern Irish only British even if they hold an Irish passport but live in Derry. That breaks the good Friday agreement.
I love how we Irish stick to our principles: "Yeah, alright we'll change the constitution to 26 counties, the primordial law of our hard-won land and freedom... but you'd better not diddle with my hoodie!" :-)
@So Angry I'm all for Brexit and I'm all for my country ( Republic of Ireland ) leaving it too. But a hard border on Northern Ireland is going to make shit hit the fan for both Ireland and the UK if something isnt done
@So Angry If we get the dodgy liberals out of Ireland and put in some good right-wing parties to kick it back into gear then we could think about reunifying Ireland but for now we need to think of a safe border
In the words of Irish comedian Andrew Maxwell: "Number one, it's not the Irish border, it's the British border in Ireland. The Irish border is the beach," "We're getting a little bit tired in Ireland of all this getting passed onto us. We - along with everyone in the EU - did our homework two years ago, you're (U.K.) still on the bus on the way to school."
Except that "the British border in Ireland" concept is flawed since Ireland is a sovereign region of the UK. A little rebellion does not change that. Makes me think of a teenager who thinks a temper tantrum is an excuse to disobey his parents.
Just a quick idea: If you're doing a video on the history of "The Troubles" in N.Ireland, you might want to be careful using terms such as "Irish Nationalist Violence" like you did at 13:09 because it kind of paints the issue as one-sided, and would get you accused of bias. I know it may sound silly, but even today, 20 years after the GFA, that's how sensitive the issue can be.
Hahaha I don’t know who that hoodie is for because Unionists won’t wear it because they’re not on in and it’s the Tri colour and nationalists would never wear it without the complete map. Maybe it’s for the yanks? 😅
@@TheFrencoShow Yes, but it's also a political term designed to avoid confusion with the geographical term "Ireland" - while not technical, it is useful.
@MacFhlannacuidh I don't think they would really be welcome in Scotland and England either. I am in Southern England, voted to remain and in my area the majority was to remain. Everyone I know (mix of remainers AND leavers) wants the backstop. Our disgraceful Boris and co make such a fuss I fear because they rely on the DUP to prop them up. Therefore we very much need a new General Election plus a new referendum. The only reason our government won't consider revoking article 50 is because they are so scared of EU tax laws in January which would hit those with bank accounts in tax havens. This has not been in the mainstream media in England. Only in a paper called the New European have I seen mention of this. All so nauseating. I was very amused to read the other day one of Boris's ministers claiming that if the UK stayed in the EU it would rip apart the fabric of our nation built up over centuries. I thought this was a bit extreme to say the least! We have been in the EU since 1973 and I don't think this has so far happened! Talk about feeble excuses!
Just one small issue, your comment on "Nationalist Violence", the violence in the North was and is, perpetrated by both sides, Nationalist and Unionist!
@@paullooney2522 "So you sow your laws with dragons teeth and soon you'll see that you've sowed the seeds of bigotry ***Be England's fool divide they'll rule so they set to break the United Men *** And they killed them in the fields and some in jail and some upon the Gallows high When Willie Orr died his very last cry was "Unite and fight brave Irishmen""
Cool so I guess the BNP are not nationalist. Perhaps you can't get Spanish nationalists given they formed in exactly the same way as us (a union of distict nations at the time).
@@desanipt or telling northern ireland to fuck off or maybe Ireland could rejoin the Uk (joking they wouldn't do that which is quite dumb because why would you want to be on your own when you could be one of the best unions ? fuck knows
Darius Rezania Hi. I'm in New Zealand watching this. I didn't learn about the Good Friday accords in school. I've since pieced some things together but would like to know more. RUclips is great for learning about stuff, isn't it!
@@garscow yes!! if you manage to find the right channels that actually provide these informations, it is! I wasn't very educated about this topic either since in Germany in history lesson we have a lot to cover about our own history, so I only heard from my parents about the GFA, but I just read some articles and looked it up in a book. And now I can follow along these videos thinking 'yes ..yes... Yes!' 😇
Right first thing before I even watch this. It's a British border in Ireland. We didnt put that border there. You guys did this nearly 100 years ago. Quit with calling it an Irish border. It's the island of Ireland.
@@Simonmc78 Some people didn't want it. Others did. And more to the point, if you're in Germany and you talk about the border between your country and France, you call it "The French border". That's how it works, colloquially. You name the border after the country you share the border with.
Estonia has closer ties to Finland than to the other Baltic states because of the language, and closer ties to Sweden because of the former Swedish Empire. If there is a question about it, traditionally, Estonia is Nordic.
“Predicates” does not mean “predates”, ”Karlsson” is not pronounced “Carlton”, “Nordic” does not mean “Norwegian”. Also I'm sad that you display Norway and Sweden next to eachother but don't make their borders line up…
@@Tomwithnonumbers - let me fix that for you -- '... of us ENGLISH people knowing nothing...'. Scots know all about them - they suffer similar problems. I'll reserve judgement on the Welsh, they've been under the English hobnail boot for longer.
The reality, which the Brixiteers refuse to acknowledge, is that the writ of the UK government does NOT run in the Border areas. No more does the writ of the Stormont Executive... Just doing a roadside car insurance check in these areas involves at least two armoured cars, and a minimum of four police officers in flak jackets armed with assault rifles or submachine guns, as well as pistols and night vision devices... Despite the repeated claims, Northern Ireland(NI) is NOT "...as British as Finchley... ANY work gang installing Border infrastructure would be given one, polite warning. Any Border infrastructure that was actually installed would be painted over, burnt down, blown up, shot to pieces, bulldozed flat, or simply disassembled to be either repurposed as components for roadside/car bombs, or sold at the next Jonesboro car boot sale...
Bexiteers: "We want a border to every member of the EU." Brexiteers: "We do not want a border between then EU and UK halves of Ireland." EU and both Irelands: "Can you just make up your damn mind already!?"
@@tessjuel classic europeans and their authoritarian union where all countries participate in it...... what? What do you mean were blowing thigs out of proportions.... what you you mean its not authoritarian...... so your saying were overacting... nah bullshit that never happens
@@RyderMCG ???????????????? I'm really quite confused your comment is a little all over the place; what are you even talking about? Do you understand the words you're using or are you just trying to fit in some buzzwords?
An English man, an Irish man and a Scottish man walk into a pub, they have a grand ol' time but the English man wants to leave so they all have to leave.
@@ub3rfr3nzy94 Those 26 counties mostly don't give a sh!t about Ireland....while the 6 counties of Ireland are extremely motivated to unify Ireland and free it from British colonialism...to quote Nigel Farage, they are fighting "For Their Independence Day"..
But 48% voted for it in Northern Ireland, 38% voted it in scotland, and overall 17.4million people voted for Brexit. It is a very GREAT BRITISH thing. and 1) Scotland failed in their quest to gain independence in 2014 "vote of a generation" - a generation isn't 5 years... 2) Northern Ireland have consistently voted with the union and not a unified Ireland.
2nd referendum question: "Should UK leave EU using technology ?" * * 1) technology that does not exist yet 2) astronomically expensive 3) might not work at all, 4) must be approved by EU that does not want it
This was a good video but it fell into the trap that much UK coverage falls into with regard to border coverage. It was only in the last minute that violence was discussed. It is violence rather that tariff collections or regulatory integrity that is Ireland's primary concern. The failure of the Brexiters to recognise this fact is at the heart of problem. I hope the other two videos in this series cover the security risks in more detail.
///The failure of the Brexiters to recognise this fact is at the heart of problem./// Oh we recognise it as a problem, we just dont recognise it as a British problem. It's the EU that want border controls. The UK will not be an EU member, so their concerns are nothing to do with us. If the IRA want to shoot at the EU/RoI, that is between the IRA and the EU/RoI. Granted, it's the UK leaving the EU that causes their difficulty, but it is _their_ difficulty.
@@Martyntd5 So, you want to leave EU but you want to keep the border between the UK and EU open? That's what they used to call a "soft Brexit". EU was all for it but the British government killed that option right at the beginning.
@@tessjuel No, no, no. A 'soft' brexit is staying in the customs union and remaining a member of the single market. I want out all the way. WTO rules, hard as nails brexit. There is nothing under WTO rules that says we must have a physical border. The ONLY people who insist their must be a physical border if we leave the EU, is the EU. It's their problem, not ours.
@@66BranDo ///how do you set your trading quota with the WTO without a border?/// There is a border now. It's there on every map, feel free to look. The question is whether or not you need a PHYSICAL border? The answer is you dont. All you need is a legal border and that already exists.
@@blitzwing1 Unfortunately there's currently not a clear indication that a majority desires a Unification or a referendum as per the Northern Ireland Act would have already been held. There will however be a clear majority for it in time, and well before a "Smart Border 2.0" could ever be realistically implemented.
JeremyEM1 completely agree, the idea of a united ireland is great but the cultural and economic shock to the system is something a lot of us Irish overlook. The government would struggle to manage a sudden gain of population as well as the unionists potentially becoming the equivalent of the Ira
@JeremyEM1 That's verifiably untrue (edit: untrue that people are generally not keen on it, not untrue that the north is poorer). Sure there are concerns and for a small number of people those concerns are enough to oppose reunification, but a pretty huge majority in ROI in support of reunification has always existed. Unlike in NI, polls in ROI can be trusted, and it's a quick Google. The very first result is Wikipedia, which has a 22% opposing United Ireland.
10:25 the demonym of Norway is Norwegian, not Nordic. You basically just implied everyone in the Nordic region trust's Swedes (which we do, but that's not the point ;p)
If you are gonna do a video on The Troubles and the GFA make sure you're covering the whole of it so people can understand why there was the push for a separatist movement in the North
The whole of it goes back to the Norman mercenaries in 1069, the subsequent Irish-Norman offensive in 1070, and finally the Norman usurpation from 1071, plus the Normans' backing of the Church of Rome, if you want _proper_ context.
@@williamchamberlain2263 The Normans actually don't have any relevance to the issue as A. The Normans integrated into Irish culture and became Irish (the amount of Irish people with Fitz as a prefix on their surname testifies to that) B. The Normans actually never settled in Ulster as in that period it was a stronghold of local Irish rule. The relevance of history to the current situation really starts with the plantations under Queen Elizabeth the first. Then Cromwell is the next important figure. A history of partition and the originally sectarian nature of the NI statelet would also be vital. Civil rights movement, crackdown and then violent rebellion.
@@williamchamberlain2263 Yeah but I would say it would be easier just to start off with the civil rights movement and show the push for it an how it evolved into terrorist warfare
@@ciarancassidy7566 I was going to make a jokey comment about it being about friction between the Fir Bholg and Tuatha Dé Danann, but it really is no laughing matter is it. The rulers (both hereditary and elected) of England have royally screwed up the Emerald Isle for so long, and show little inclination to stop any time soon.
@@mranimazing2190 That is always a mistake. Militant Republicanism has a history in Ireland that goes back much further. For brevity's sake, start with partition.
Selling a hoodie with Ireland on it without Northern Ireland isn't a great idea mate. Plenty of irish citizens livings in the north wouldn't like that.
@@princeofchetarria5375 Just like the good Friday agreement applies both citizenships simultaneously, the t-shirt should have both designs simultaneously.............Lenticular printing or 2 sided sequins maybe?
The Good Friday Agreement is one of the most important political agreements in recent years. Its the reason there isnt outward fighting on the streets the way there was for 30 years. If a hard boarder happens all the fighting will come back and nobody in the North Of Ireland (Nationalist or Unionist, Catholic or Protestant) wants this to come back.
When it looked like brexit was imminent earlier this year there were 1,000's of angry irish men and women taking to twitter, facebook, reddit, youtube etc with an underlying message that was essentially "if the uk goes back on its word there will be english blood in the streets within the week". That is one proverbial wasp nest you don't want to kick... to many bitter irish adults who remember the deal and the violence that lead to it, and to many young and perhaps fool hearty teens willing to lay down their lives for an almost idealistic cause. Many believe it will be the same fighting that occurred some 20-30 years ago... i believe it will be much worse.
@@shanehull6235 last time I checked nobody is saying we should kill everyone who's ever been a member of ISIS. The aim is to neutralize them so they're no longer a threat. Currently, the IRA isn't a threat. I would also like to point out that the IRA weren't the only terrorists in Northern Ireland. While the IRA killed more people overall, the British army killed more innocent civilians during the troubles. Often in horrible and inhumane ways. Many of those murderers never faced any charges for their actions. Tell me, should we also kill every British soldier who was in Northern Ireland at that time. Would that ease your apparent lust for blood.
Right? Once this is over it'll all be history. And then we'll go from knowing about current events like cool people to knowing about history like nerds.
It's a lose-lose situation, there will be mass outrage no matter what they do. I feel like this was the most overlooked issue during the brexit election..
If ur doing a video on the Good Friday agreement making sure not to just us sources for the UK as other RUclips video have covering the video that gloss over some of the fundamental issues grounding north Ireland
I live in Sweden above the arctic circle and almost all traffic from the most northern parts of Norway passes through here to southern Norway. Even if the goods are from Norway to Norway they need lots of paper to just pass through EU land and there is especially a lot of rules regarding waste and garbage transports. And there is like two guys working on those checks, not on so many border passes but in an area larger than 150 000km^2, it is a lot of time spent in a car so testing tech for better checks and better work conditions was prioritized. They ended up with buying them small drones to easy access instead of that expensive system. At least they are not climbing on ice covered trollies anymore.
Simplicity probably because it's as ignorant as can be, and it's a shame that people like yourself seem to be getting educated from the likes of this. For a start the title is absolutely incorrect, it's a BRITISH BORDER in Ireland. Why would the Irish people want to divide our own small nation? We don't, the British governments illegal war and invasion of Ireland lead to it.
Hondo Trailside the Irish Parliament voted for independence in 1918. It was Westminster who partitioned Ireland. Dublin was given the choice to sign or be annihilated.
It's almost like the people who proposed Leave never bothered to think about what difficulties would come up... like they never expected to actually do it...
It was good to see what they are considering. I hadn't heard the plan for cameras and mobile units before, and that's definitely more appealing than building a checkpoint (mostly because when the cameras get shot nobody gets hurt)
This border problem should have been one of many things that needed to be clear before the referendum... you cant just ask people to buy something before you even know how to build it.
It's the Trump phenomenon. At first you make it out like you're gonna build a modern version of the Great Wall of China, with machine gun nests; supporting artillery installations; aircraft bases, that can scramble fighters at a moment's notice; mortars; canine patrols; a slew of cyber-defense measures; Radar installations; and constant satellite surveillance over the border region. Throw in a few IBM installations in Wales just for good measure. Then as time goes, it gradually devolves into a metal-fence, with a couple of overweight border guards per 100 kilometers of border, and when everyone realizes that it was a shit idea to begin with, they're gonna say that it was always meant as a mental sort of border, as if they're gonna keep the evil Irish and Continentals out through sheer willpower. Incidentally, this is sort of what we have already, except there's no need to keep anyone out. Hey, why don't we keep the current solution? It sounds much better.
@@Boomerrage32. Oh I think you are too quick to poo-poo Trump (And possibly not the first) He also has a solution to protect the Eastern seaboard from rising sea levels. A wall would you believe. And he'll get the fish to pay for it.
@@Geffo555 Well, as long as that wall doesn't also devolve into a chain link wire fence.... cuz, then the only thing that's gonna keep out is the fish.... Do you think the fish speak Spanish btw?
@@Boomerrage32. Only the Mar-a-Lago crappie (Impedianta covfefe) is fluent in Spanish. Chain link fencing is entirely waterproof by the way. Fake Fencing!
Mateusz Wisniewski actually, one scenario I could hypothetically see is if the terrorists start bombing the EU, demanding the independence of Ireland, and the Irish fail to help enough in getting them brought to justice. But I don’t believe there’s a mechanism to kick anyone out.
While it is technically more accurate and is actually quite aesthetically pleasing few Irish people will want a jumper without the 6 counties. If someone asked us tondra Ireland we always just think of Ireland as the island not the geopolitical nation that it is. Its not necessarily a nationalist statement.
Can we please stop using nationalist to describe Irish Republican. The word nationalist was used as a smear tactic originally to tar Irish Republicans as violent bigots
Except there has always been a border, that they themselves imposed when they wanted to stay with the UK. It was an imaginary line, but it was a soft border imposed by keeping with the UK
Yeah.... no. The threat of a resurgence of violence is already present and will only get worse if England attempts to violate the good Friday agreement and enforce any kind border within Ireland. It's well past time for England to give up their occupation of Northern Ireland and return it to the people it was stolen from. The Republic of Ireland should in turn institute explicit protections for Northern Ireland to ease the concerns of the Northern Irish.
As recently as yesterday one of the other people up for PM (Matt Hancock) suggested setting up an “Irish Border Council”, the only problem with this being it already essentially exists in the form of any of the East-West Institutions one of the 3 pillars in the Good Friday Agreement 🤦♂️ EDIT: For those wondering the 3 pillars are Devolution e.g. Stormont, the North-South Institutions e.g. North-South Ministerial Council, and the East-West Institutions e.g. British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference.
The merch with "Ireland" minus 6 counties is controversial and offensive. I would stop advertising it. I thought TLDR News knew better than to mess with this sensitive issue.
A Good Friday Agreement video covering it's Brexit implications would be good. The so called 'back stop' content video would be good too. This mess seems to be an intractable problem. And it will complicated with any 'No Deal' Brexit crash out.
@HazardousPleb V There's a strong argument to be made that most people here want unification. All that is needed is 50%+1 person. Latest polls show that there may be a majority. Also Ireland is the name of our island, not just the name of our republic
I really hate to be "that guy" but I figure since I work in the field I have to be here. Countries in an FTA don't usually agree to harmonize their regulations (in fact, that's one of the things that makes the EU single market so awesome for the UK - that harmonization breaks down a LOT of regulatory barriers). Countries agree to do a lot of things that have major impacts that LESSEN the regulatory barriers to entry. For example, they will agree to allow for certain increases in market access for services, or they may agree to waive certain customs regulatory allowances (for example, allowing non-resident importers where they may require non-FTA members to have an internal agent). They also agree to treat suppliers from the other party no less favourably than their own - for example they cannot say "We will reject your permit application because you're foreign, but we'd grant one to an identical company doing an identical thing... like a wholly owned domestic subsidiary you want to incorporate." At the really far end you may get situations like in CETA. In CETA there's a process to allow regulatory TESTING agencies to be certified in the other party. That will allow testing/compliance companies in Canada certify that products meet EU standards and vice versa. However, the products still must meet relevant standards in the other territory - I can make a widget that will meet Canada widget standards, and can be sold here, but may not meet EU standards. There is not usually a mutual recognition of the regulations in the other party. Once again, that's what makes the EU single market awesome. You make a widget you can sell in London, and you can put it on a boat and sell that EXACT SAME WIDGET in Berlin. No additional checks/testing/product changes etc. In addition, certain areas that are traditionally super protectionist (like financial services) generally have little to no liberalization in FTAs - but the UK currently gets full passporting rights throughout the EU.
I'd love to see a vid about the backstop! Then do one on what Sci-fi movie the brexiteers thought they lived in when they came up with the "tech border solution"
Kind of funny hearing people talking about putting a border in Ireland between Ireland and Ireland because of a minority of anti Irish people and then briefly mentioning that Ireland is not ok with it but continuing on talking as if it that is a minor detail. The border going through the sea makes most sense, the border going through Scotland sounds reasonable. The border going around a housing estate for the hard brexiteers sounds best, they could have their own country in London outside EU till they beg to come back
I live and was born in Northern Ireland and have an Irish passport because of the good Friday agreement. What I'm looking to know from the next video is will it be possible for my Irish citizenship to be revoked due to Brexit. Haven't seen anyone talk about this yet.
You'll be able to keep your Irish citizenship, But it will get complicated if UK and EU diverge on human rights, workers rights etc... But that can be resolved through European Court of Human Rights. I expect there will be many court cases in the years ahead.
@Gerben van Straaten I do have dual citizenship. The issue being that the British government stance is that Northern Irish people are British first and Irish next, so to actually have Irish citizenship I would have to reject British citizenship, bit weird. Might have to dig up the weapons stash down the road haha.
@@KnomeshooterFILM I guarantee that all this nonsense will be going to European Court of Human Rights once Brexit is over. There is nothing in GFA which says you should be considered British first.
Perhaps i'm missing something being American. Why can't the UK just give back that small piece of land to Ireland, so they have the whole island? Then there is no Irish border problem.
Because Ireland was a British colony with unionist brits on it that do not match with the catholic natives Irish. Irish civil war pushed the unionist brits to the north creating de facto 2 Ireland : Independent Republic of Ireland in the south and North Ireland part of UK. It's a good old religion war. The only solution is a reunited federal Ireland. It is possible as the GFA says that the NI can join, via referendum, the RI whenever they want. The last thing that EU wants, is a new war in Ireland but, brexit is creating this probability.
Basically, if NI joins ROI then Unionist Terrorism will start up again. That is why we aspire to, over decades of peaceful co-existence, have those born to unionist backgrounds realize they should foresake Britain and become nationalists. If there own community outgrows the tantrum that is Northern Ireland there will be no fuel for them.
Twilord I’m from The new Generation. You can sure as hell bet They’re be Fighting. We Chose to stay and when The vote goes 51/49%, that’s 49% of the country going against you.
@@arkaauofficial9457 If Ireland is part of the EU, and Brexit goes through, and the UK tries to use military force against Ireland, would the EU go to war with the UK?
if i havent worked out how to use the code by june 3rd, can i ask for an extension, until me and my entire family can work out whether it is even a good idea to use the code? (but if we still cant work it out, we may have to ask for a longer extension)
I'd definitely be interested in learning more about the Backstop. What it is, what it's for etcetc. It's a phrase that has been bandied around a lot but nobody ever seems to put into context what it is in the way that you've so successfully done with every other topic you've touched on so far.
@@truckerfromreno A border between customs territories is mandated by international law via the WTO, not the EU. It's the UK's problem, they invaded the island, partitioned the island and now they want to commit suicide and have a hard border as collateral damage. By all means destroy yourselves, nobody really cares anymore but please try to avoid taking other people down with you.
The technology option sounds far to optimistic, I wonder how long the system would work and how long physical checks wouldn't be done when one of the mobile units pulls over a smuggler. Not too long I reckon til the GFA would be forgotten.
The PSNI chief Constable stated he needed atleast 10,000 extra Officers if there was a hard border and there legitimately isn’t the money. Know what that means? The British army back on the streets of enniskillen, Crossmaglen, Downpatrick etc and more young British and Irish boys will die in the fields and roads of the 6 counties for the brain dead men in Whitehall
"and create its own rules", not its own rules, trade deals take at least 2 parties. A negotiated set of rules enforced by a third party would be more correct.
Treble Champions Again Well if you say so... European elections suggest otherwise, given that remain parties combined go more votes than proBrexit parties
Most people in Ireland would want to buy that design because u left out the north. If u don't believe me look into the UFC rebook mistake they made where they used the same map of Ireland without using the full Ireland
Hmm, it will be interesting to see how hard a Conservative leader would fight an Irish reunification vote ... sounds like it might make a problem or two go away.
on paper, northern ireland leaving the UK and reuniting with the republic of ireland would solve everything. the problem is that if they left, scotland would most certainly follow suit as the union would already be starting to break apart, and when it's just england and wales left, many countries in the commonwealth could decide that if they need to change the union flag in the corner of their flags anyway, then maybe that would be the best time to just break that tie also. could have a domino effect.
You're forgetting the other issue that is the Irish economy wouldn't cope with all the sudden extra people and infrastructure and you'd be stuck in a miserable recession like us for years just trying to readjust the north.
now make a tshirt of bercow standing between northern ireland and the republic of ireland yelling booooorder. thanks.
Yes xD
YES, SO MUCH YES
Joshua Oxenford Hahahahahaha!!! That’s such a good idea 💡
and then Bercow gets his ballz chopped off (or blown up) by the IRA..
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Blockchain, AI... Every time you see these words used by non-experts you should red-flag it.
When I saw that I actually laughed. Yeah, right, add a decade and hundreds of millions of pounds to the mix ... and it will still have problems.
"blockchain technology to secure information securely"
Yep, that's a politician alright.
Industry 4.0, 4D materials
I was thinking that they just meant magic when talking about "technology" this confirmed it.
The moment I heard AI to identify Suspicious Vehicles, I knew it was going to be terrible
"Minor Issues"
- tech doesn't exist
- People implementing it are muppets
- Costs are astronomical
- Expected to increase smuggling
:D
- Needs opposing countrys good will.
You forgot the violence.
Yup.
Let's not forget that the northern Irish are considered both Irish and British atm, as per the good Friday agreement. Brexit boarders make northern Irish only British even if they hold an Irish passport but live in Derry. That breaks the good Friday agreement.
@@goblinwisdom
No they have the right to identify as Irish, British or both!
What we do until 2030/effective tecnology?
No Irish person in their right mind would wear a jumper showing Ireland with the 6 counties missing! Maybe change the merch
lol imagine the slagging you’d get
Was thinking exactly the same thing. I think there'll be a lot of those left over at the warehouse. lol
@@grahamlive luckily teespring only presses the tees with the respective design once they are ordered and paid for, I'm pretty sure
I love how we Irish stick to our principles: "Yeah, alright we'll change the constitution to 26 counties, the primordial law of our hard-won land and freedom... but you'd better not diddle with my hoodie!" :-)
@@philipteevee8067 the people remain citizens
‘Might’ trigger some violence is a bit of an understatement
@So Angry have you been paying attention to Derry and Belfast recently?
@So Angry Bombs and Molotov attacks have been happening more and more often. The Troubles could very well start again.
@So Angry I'm all for Brexit and I'm all for my country ( Republic of Ireland ) leaving it too. But a hard border on Northern Ireland is going to make shit hit the fan for both Ireland and the UK if something isnt done
@So Angry If we get the dodgy liberals out of Ireland and put in some good right-wing parties to kick it back into gear then we could think about reunifying Ireland but for now we need to think of a safe border
@So Angry Technically northern Ireland voted to stay.
That 26 county tricolor would send a very strong political message if you wore it anywhere in Ireland, and that message isn't "Golly I love Ireland".
Guess I’ll be buying it and wearing it on O’Connell St so
@@mrhoppy_9724 Wear it in the Bogside in Derry and see how it goes.
Adam_The_Long gladly. It’ll show how uninformed people in the Bogside are about what is and what isn’t Ireland.
God damn facts. Am I right fellow Irishmen?
@@mrhoppy_9724 I wouldn't be worrying about how informed they are just about how fast they can run
In the words of Irish comedian Andrew Maxwell:
"Number one, it's not the Irish border, it's the British border in Ireland. The Irish border is the beach,"
"We're getting a little bit tired in Ireland of all this getting passed onto us. We - along with everyone in the EU - did our homework two years ago, you're (U.K.) still on the bus on the way to school."
They'll never leave. I think you should just assume that and wait for them to catch up.
4:47
Does anyone find it weird that he makes the ‘reunification of Ireland,’ sound like a bad thing?
Vinny Gregan - Nobody is going to use all those words when everybody understands the simpler term.
Except that "the British border in Ireland" concept is flawed since Ireland is a sovereign region of the UK. A little rebellion does not change that. Makes me think of a teenager who thinks a temper tantrum is an excuse to disobey his parents.
@@gentlemanvontweed7147 Sorry but what the actual fuck are you on about.
Just a quick idea: If you're doing a video on the history of "The Troubles" in N.Ireland, you might want to be careful using terms such as "Irish Nationalist Violence" like you did at 13:09 because it kind of paints the issue as one-sided, and would get you accused of bias.
I know it may sound silly, but even today, 20 years after the GFA, that's how sensitive the issue can be.
It is a british Channel likely to be biased
Not really the Irish border issue more the British border in Ireland issue
Ireland ends at the sea
>sees Ireland hoodie with the 6 counties missing
>those Protestants..... up to no good as usual
The Brits are at it again
@@minimooster7258
Sure they never stopped...
Oh my God, God help anyone that gets seen out in that Irish hoodie.
I think some people will take offence from lack of the six counties.
Hahaha I don’t know who that hoodie is for because Unionists won’t wear it because they’re not on in and it’s the Tri colour and nationalists would never wear it without the complete map. Maybe it’s for the yanks? 😅
@@SpoonsHD everyone who's not on the island really doesn't care at all. The only thing we know about Ireland is Guinness and leprechauns.
@@Frahamen and drinking problems
@@SpoonsHD Maybe for the people who aren't either? Y'know, just want an Ireland hoodie. Can't help that that's the map.
not many Irish people are going to buy that, with northern ireland missing
It is a map of the Republic of Ireland, so of course NI is missing
@@SFRobertsDickClarke The Republic of Ireland is a soccer team. The country is called Ireland.
TheFrencoShow both are fine. Don’t get your green white and orange panties in a twist
@@TheFrencoShow Yes, but it's also a political term designed to avoid confusion with the geographical term "Ireland" - while not technical, it is useful.
@@iFkNxLegend green, white and gold
Yes UK can solve the border problem. It just has to give back the land they stole for Ireland.
No It can't until there's a majority in Northern Ireland which wants to unite with Ireland.
@@sergeseanmison7787 I understand that in two years time the majority in Northern Ireland will be Catholic. This might make a difference.
@MacFhlannacuidh I don't think they would really be welcome in Scotland and England either. I am in Southern England, voted to remain and in my area the majority was to remain. Everyone I know (mix of remainers AND leavers) wants the backstop. Our disgraceful Boris and co make such a fuss I fear because they rely on the DUP to prop them up. Therefore we very much need a new General Election plus a new referendum. The only reason our government won't consider revoking article 50 is because they are so scared of EU tax laws in January which would hit those with bank accounts in tax havens. This has not been in the mainstream media in England. Only in a paper called the New European have I seen mention of this. All so nauseating. I was very amused to read the other day one of Boris's ministers claiming that if the UK stayed in the EU it would rip apart the fabric of our nation built up over centuries. I thought this was a bit extreme to say the least! We have been in the EU since 1973 and I don't think this has so far happened! Talk about feeble excuses!
And all the fucking money they stole over 700 years also the slave wages they paid Irish people to rebuild their cities after the war
Or... conquer the entire island...
Just one small issue, your comment on "Nationalist Violence", the violence in the North was and is, perpetrated by both sides, Nationalist and Unionist!
@@paullooney2522 "So you sow your laws with dragons teeth and soon you'll see that you've sowed the seeds of bigotry
***Be England's fool divide they'll rule so they set to break the United Men
***
And they killed them in the fields and some in jail and some upon the Gallows high
When Willie Orr died his very last cry was "Unite and fight brave Irishmen""
@@veterankamikaze3591 Like it.
@@paullooney2522 Tbf Unionist are British Nationalists.
@@Paul-zk2tn what nation? The union is a union of nations... hence unionist... this isn't hard
Cool so I guess the BNP are not nationalist. Perhaps you can't get Spanish nationalists given they formed in exactly the same way as us (a union of distict nations at the time).
Border?... B... ORDER... BORDAAAA!
So, I can't hold myself.
DIVISION? CLEAR THE BOOORDAAAA!
Здравствуйте как дела
LOCK THE DOORS! ... (and throw away the keys)
@@darkdrow66 DIVISION! Clear the countries :P
Borda is a trash ranking system. Use tideman or smith set hare if you're concerned about voters gaming the system
Can the UK solve the Irish Border Problem?
"No."
Good video.
Nonesense. We'll just mobilize the reserves and push the border to the coast. Problem solved.
Yes. By not leaving the EU.
@@desanipt or telling northern ireland to fuck off or maybe Ireland could rejoin the Uk (joking they wouldn't do that which is quite dumb because why would you want to be on your own when you could be one of the best unions ? fuck knows
@@bens1335 I would think about it if you got rid off your establishment,and ordinary English people governed England,but then again pigs might fly.
Yes. If reasonable politicians are in charge.
Don’t people in the UK learn about the Good Friday agreement in History class.
It’s a core part of the course in Ireland.
I have, but it appears you haven’t.
Darius Rezania Hi. I'm in New Zealand watching this. I didn't learn about the Good Friday accords in school. I've since pieced some things together but would like to know more.
RUclips is great for learning about stuff, isn't it!
Even in the UK it was never covered in my school :(
@@garscow yes!! if you manage to find the right channels that actually provide these informations, it is! I wasn't very educated about this topic either since in Germany in history lesson we have a lot to cover about our own history, so I only heard from my parents about the GFA, but I just read some articles and looked it up in a book. And now I can follow along these videos thinking 'yes ..yes... Yes!' 😇
Don’t get your information from the pro-EU propaganda machine, it lies.
Read the document yourself. It is only 35 pages long.
Right first thing before I even watch this.
It's a British border in Ireland. We didnt put that border there. You guys did this nearly 100 years ago.
Quit with calling it an Irish border. It's the island of Ireland.
If you want to get technical, it's the British-Irish border,
@@SFRobertsDickClarke I dont want to get technical. We didn't want the border. It was forced upon us by the British government
@@Simonmc78 Some people didn't want it. Others did. And more to the point, if you're in Germany and you talk about the border between your country and France, you call it "The French border". That's how it works, colloquially. You name the border after the country you share the border with.
@@Simonmc78 Yes but you can't change the past can you... all you can do is move forward.
living in the past is a bad thing to do it is where all this hate comes from. The people who did that are all dead!!!
Nordic = Skandinavian + Icelandic + Finnish. I think you meant "Norwegian".
Estonia cannot into Nordic. :P
No it’s Nordicwegian
@@piotrfelix Maybe sometime in the future my little Baltic friend.
Estonia has closer ties to Finland than to the other Baltic states because of the language, and closer ties to Sweden because of the former Swedish Empire. If there is a question about it, traditionally, Estonia is Nordic.
@@piotrfelix Saluton amiko!
Irish nationalist violence?!
Poorly phrased sentence given that violence was used by all sides.
Towing the old line of calling the IRA ‘terrorists’ and UDA ‘paramilitaries’
“Predicates” does not mean “predates”, ”Karlsson” is not pronounced “Carlton”, “Nordic” does not mean “Norwegian”.
Also I'm sad that you display Norway and Sweden next to eachother but don't make their borders line up…
Dude. Nobody will buy an Ireland shirt without NI - as the UFC learned.
Yeah, I would have got one if there wasn't a chunk of the country missing.
@@TheFrencoShow but Ireland doesn't include northern ireland, its over on the good side with the uk
A nice example of us British people knowing nothing about Irish problems but insisting we do anyway
@@Tomwithnonumbers - let me fix that for you -- '... of us ENGLISH people knowing nothing...'.
Scots know all about them - they suffer similar problems. I'll reserve judgement on the Welsh, they've been under the English hobnail boot for longer.
There’s no way cameras or technology would last long in border areas
The reality, which the Brixiteers refuse to acknowledge, is that the writ of the UK government does NOT run in the Border areas. No more does the writ of the Stormont Executive...
Just doing a roadside car insurance check in these areas involves at least two armoured cars, and a minimum of four police officers in flak jackets armed with assault rifles or submachine guns, as well as pistols and night vision devices...
Despite the repeated claims, Northern Ireland(NI) is NOT "...as British as Finchley...
ANY work gang installing Border infrastructure would be given one, polite warning.
Any Border infrastructure that was actually installed would be painted over, burnt down, blown up, shot to pieces, bulldozed flat, or simply disassembled to be either repurposed as components for roadside/car bombs, or sold at the next Jonesboro car boot sale...
Bexiteers: "We want a border to every member of the EU."
Brexiteers: "We do not want a border between then EU and UK halves of Ireland."
EU and both Irelands: "Can you just make up your damn mind already!?"
Spot on, except you forgot the last bit:
Brexiteers: "This is all your fault, EU!"
@@tessjuel classic europeans and their authoritarian union where all countries participate in it...... what? What do you mean were blowing thigs out of proportions.... what you you mean its not authoritarian...... so your saying were overacting... nah bullshit that never happens
@@RyderMCG ???????????????? I'm really quite confused your comment is a little all over the place; what are you even talking about? Do you understand the words you're using or are you just trying to fit in some buzzwords?
@@theformalmooshroom9147 impersonating a brexiter if you need more clues then that youre beyond help
@@RyderMCG Ah no you're fine, that totally explains the confusion :P :)
Good stuff in a bad situation. Looking forward to the future vids!
Long Answer: No
Short Answer: N'
@Desmond Powell Oh, they're there. Telling the UK to remain. Just listen to Dawkins.
@Desmond Powell not according to yougov. Barely anyone has changed their mind
An English man, an Irish man and a Scottish man walk into a pub, they have a grand ol' time but the English man wants to leave so they all have to leave.
And the Welshman left too as they voted for it and respect democracy.
@@truckerfromreno Apparently they forget to invite him
@TheFormalMooshroom good o’l English love the Welsh
@@truckerfromreno only because they voted or it
@@truckerfromreno Wale's couldn't change the outcome of any national election/referendum..
Ah but you're missing 6 counties of Ireland on your merch 😜
You mean 26 counties of the UK right?
Be a brave man who wears that hoodie!
@@ub3rfr3nzy94 No.
Makes you wonder who exactly was the target market for that one. I really doubt all the people voting for Ireland meant that
@@ub3rfr3nzy94 Those 26 counties mostly don't give a sh!t about Ireland....while the 6 counties of Ireland are extremely motivated to unify Ireland and free it from British colonialism...to quote Nigel Farage, they are fighting "For Their Independence Day"..
United Ireland, Independent Scotland. It was always an English Brexit, so let them suffer it on their own.
Celtic union when?
Brexit might become Breakup
No just a European Union
But 48% voted for it in Northern Ireland, 38% voted it in scotland, and overall 17.4million people voted for Brexit.
It is a very GREAT BRITISH thing.
and 1) Scotland failed in their quest to gain independence in 2014 "vote of a generation" - a generation isn't 5 years...
2) Northern Ireland have consistently voted with the union and not a unified Ireland.
It's really not, if you don't believe me have another vote then.
*Tories stand around a map of the Irish boarder*
“We can rebuild it. We have the technology!”
LMFAO! 😂 🤣 😅
Wouldn't it be easier to just move the Irish border to the coast?
yes its called getting rid of secterianism,and it has never been really tried,I wounder why?
Its a British border problem, lads. The Irish didn't create this mess.
It's still going to affect the entire EU
They did when they decided to be Irish.
yeah you do.. jesus is the principle mess of the conflicted divide
@@ub3rfr3nzy94 who decided you should have been born
2nd referendum question: "Should UK leave EU using technology ?" *
* 1) technology that does not exist yet
2) astronomically expensive
3) might not work at all,
4) must be approved by EU that does not want it
BoJo and Farage both believe in magical unicorns so they will get behind this question!
Farage says people in 2016 were all aware of all brexit issues so there is no need for second referendum.
@@TheCimbrianBull Bojo and Farage know that it will not work, they are perpuating the lie that it will work for there own political gain
@@ONeill01
I read somewhere online a day or two ago that BoJo was facing a lawsuit over misinformation during the referendum.
This was a good video but it fell into the trap that much UK coverage falls into with regard to border coverage. It was only in the last minute that violence was discussed. It is violence rather that tariff collections or regulatory integrity that is Ireland's primary concern. The failure of the Brexiters to recognise this fact is at the heart of problem.
I hope the other two videos in this series cover the security risks in more detail.
///The failure of the Brexiters to recognise this fact is at the heart of problem.///
Oh we recognise it as a problem, we just dont recognise it as a British problem. It's the EU that want border controls. The UK will not be an EU member, so their concerns are nothing to do with us. If the IRA want to shoot at the EU/RoI, that is between the IRA and the EU/RoI. Granted, it's the UK leaving the EU that causes their difficulty, but it is _their_ difficulty.
@@Martyntd5 So, you want to leave EU but you want to keep the border between the UK and EU open? That's what they used to call a "soft Brexit". EU was all for it but the British government killed that option right at the beginning.
@@tessjuel No, no, no. A 'soft' brexit is staying in the customs union and remaining a member of the single market. I want out all the way. WTO rules, hard as nails brexit. There is nothing under WTO rules that says we must have a physical border. The ONLY people who insist their must be a physical border if we leave the EU, is the EU. It's their problem, not ours.
@@Martyntd5 how do you set your trading quota with the WTO without a border?
@@66BranDo ///how do you set your trading quota with the WTO without a border?///
There is a border now. It's there on every map, feel free to look. The question is whether or not you need a PHYSICAL border? The answer is you dont. All you need is a legal border and that already exists.
Carlson's Norway Sweden Border Document, "feel stupid for 48 pages" lol
I've said it since the referendum. Brexit only leaves two options. Unified Ireland, or an Irish border.
@@blitzwing1 Unfortunately there's currently not a clear indication that a majority desires a Unification or a referendum as per the Northern Ireland Act would have already been held. There will however be a clear majority for it in time, and well before a "Smart Border 2.0" could ever be realistically implemented.
JeremyEM1 completely agree, the idea of a united ireland is great but the cultural and economic shock to the system is something a lot of us Irish overlook. The government would struggle to manage a sudden gain of population as well as the unionists potentially becoming the equivalent of the Ira
@JeremyEM1
That's verifiably untrue (edit: untrue that people are generally not keen on it, not untrue that the north is poorer). Sure there are concerns and for a small number of people those concerns are enough to oppose reunification, but a pretty huge majority in ROI in support of reunification has always existed. Unlike in NI, polls in ROI can be trusted, and it's a quick Google. The very first result is Wikipedia, which has a 22% opposing United Ireland.
@@richardtwomey9201So you mean the UDA/UVF, they are the loyalist equivalent of the IRA
TheFormalMooshroom yes the UVF was what I was suggesting, I'd be concerned they'd become worse than they currently are in the instance of unification
10:25 the demonym of Norway is Norwegian, not Nordic. You basically just implied everyone in the Nordic region trust's Swedes (which we do, but that's not the point ;p)
I cannot stress how happy it makes me to see someone use the word "demonym" in a comment section on the internet. It really is the little things
If you are gonna do a video on The Troubles and the GFA make sure you're covering the whole of it so people can understand why there was the push for a separatist movement in the North
The whole of it goes back to the Norman mercenaries in 1069, the subsequent Irish-Norman offensive in 1070, and finally the Norman usurpation from 1071, plus the Normans' backing of the Church of Rome, if you want _proper_ context.
@@williamchamberlain2263 The Normans actually don't have any relevance to the issue as A. The Normans integrated into Irish culture and became Irish (the amount of Irish people with Fitz as a prefix on their surname testifies to that)
B. The Normans actually never settled in Ulster as in that period it was a stronghold of local Irish rule.
The relevance of history to the current situation really starts with the plantations under Queen Elizabeth the first. Then Cromwell is the next important figure. A history of partition and the originally sectarian nature of the NI statelet would also be vital. Civil rights movement, crackdown and then violent rebellion.
@@williamchamberlain2263 Yeah but I would say it would be easier just to start off with the civil rights movement and show the push for it an how it evolved into terrorist warfare
@@ciarancassidy7566 I was going to make a jokey comment about it being about friction between the Fir Bholg and Tuatha Dé Danann, but it really is no laughing matter is it. The rulers (both hereditary and elected) of England have royally screwed up the Emerald Isle for so long, and show little inclination to stop any time soon.
@@mranimazing2190 That is always a mistake. Militant Republicanism has a history in Ireland that goes back much further. For brevity's sake, start with partition.
The border is complicated, even your Ireland with shoes is a political statement bound to anger people on the island.
I think it's the UK's border problem!
It is the UK's border problem.
3pm , but you should mention the time zone
Probably UTC if he doesn't mention a time zone specifically.
Kristjan Koitla Or BST?
GMT
Selling a hoodie with Ireland on it without Northern Ireland isn't a great idea mate. Plenty of irish citizens livings in the north wouldn't like that.
Nathan Reynolds yeah but selling one of a united ireland would piss of unionists living in the north. It’s the border problem all over again 😂
You are the problem.
@@princeofchetarria5375 Just like the good Friday agreement applies both citizenships simultaneously, the t-shirt should have both designs simultaneously.............Lenticular printing or 2 sided sequins maybe?
The Good Friday Agreement is one of the most important political agreements in recent years. Its the reason there isnt outward fighting on the streets the way there was for 30 years. If a hard boarder happens all the fighting will come back and nobody in the North Of Ireland (Nationalist or Unionist, Catholic or Protestant) wants this to come back.
@@shanehull6235 what exactly are you proposing? Have the British army come and murder everyone who's ever been a member of the IRA?
When it looked like brexit was imminent earlier this year there were 1,000's of angry irish men and women taking to twitter, facebook, reddit, youtube etc with an underlying message that was essentially "if the uk goes back on its word there will be english blood in the streets within the week".
That is one proverbial wasp nest you don't want to kick... to many bitter irish adults who remember the deal and the violence that lead to it, and to many young and perhaps fool hearty teens willing to lay down their lives for an almost idealistic cause.
Many believe it will be the same fighting that occurred some 20-30 years ago... i believe it will be much worse.
John Hobbes it would be like giving terrorists amnesty right crazy also what you said is just inaccurate simply wrong
lizard ledgend if I said that about isis no one would bat an eye lid what’s the difference?
@@shanehull6235 last time I checked nobody is saying we should kill everyone who's ever been a member of ISIS. The aim is to neutralize them so they're no longer a threat. Currently, the IRA isn't a threat.
I would also like to point out that the IRA weren't the only terrorists in Northern Ireland. While the IRA killed more people overall, the British army killed more innocent civilians during the troubles. Often in horrible and inhumane ways. Many of those murderers never faced any charges for their actions. Tell me, should we also kill every British soldier who was in Northern Ireland at that time. Would that ease your apparent lust for blood.
Can you do a united Ireland version of the merch? :)
United Ireland doesn't exist politically right now. Some people might want it to exist, but we all want a lot of things.
@@SFRobertsDickClarke I know, but if polls are anything to go by, a united Ireland would sell more merch :)
@@SFRobertsDickClarke Batman doesn’t exist either Michael. Doesn’t mean you can’t put it on a shirt
@@stevenmcalister826 Yes, but the series is "countries with shoes". United Ireland is not a country.
It would be a cold day in hell before you’d see an Irish person wear that top 😂😂
😂😂😂 great channel but shows how little they really know.
You'd wanna be a brave man or a complete idiot to wear that in some areas
Cian O'Doherty I’d gladly wear it
@@mrhoppy_9724 good luck with that in Ireland
Best end is that Scotland and NI leave the UK and Ireland is reunified
Them's the dreams
You know, by the end of this we will all be so educated about the EU and England, and their relationship, that it will be a pity if they break appart
Right? Once this is over it'll all be history. And then we'll go from knowing about current events like cool people to knowing about history like nerds.
@@EDoyl People who know about current events are 'wonks', whereas 'cool' people only know about IG likes and FB friends.
It's a lose-lose situation, there will be mass outrage no matter what they do. I feel like this was the most overlooked issue during the brexit election..
It's not the Irish border.
It's the British border in Ireland.
England Wales & Scotland = great Britain
England Wales Scotland & Northern Ireland = the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
@@SweetBeatJinx
The name has been changed once already, it'll be changed again.
yes please on the border and good friday agreement, i live here and i dont know whats going on!!??!!
Ignorant minds are ripe for indoctrination. The pro-EU propaganda machine will love you.
Not ignorant. He's asking questions.
I'm Australian and I'm keen to know as well! I think it's people holding grudges cause of reasons I don't know.
@@JohnSmith-nz4bn Hahaha - It's something like that. It's difficult to explain so I'll be interested to see how well he does.
@XxX_Bro_ Dude69_XxX cheers mate! Will sus it out.
This just shows how dumb brexit is and how it cant work.
If ur doing a video on the Good Friday agreement making sure not to just us sources for the UK as other RUclips video have covering the video that gloss over some of the fundamental issues grounding north Ireland
He should try selling that shirt in Belfast. Maybe then he'd actually learn something about the border
He'd learn "how to get you ballicks knocked in" in a short space of time.
I live in Sweden above the arctic circle and almost all traffic from the most northern parts of Norway passes through here to southern Norway. Even if the goods are from Norway to Norway they need lots of paper to just pass through EU land and there is especially a lot of rules regarding waste and garbage transports. And there is like two guys working on those checks, not on so many border passes but in an area larger than 150 000km^2, it is a lot of time spent in a car so testing tech for better checks and better work conditions was prioritized. They ended up with buying them small drones to easy access instead of that expensive system. At least they are not climbing on ice covered trollies anymore.
EU is mainly a trade organisation with a little bit extras.All big empires know that wealthy is coming up from trade.
Thanks again for another very clear explanation 👍
Really, when he completely missed the most important point?
@@PanglossDr
Which would be?
I really love the simplicity of this video. It really explained a lot. Thanks TLDR.
Simplicity probably because it's as ignorant as can be, and it's a shame that people like yourself seem to be getting educated from the likes of this. For a start the title is absolutely incorrect, it's a BRITISH BORDER in Ireland. Why would the Irish people want to divide our own small nation? We don't, the British governments illegal war and invasion of Ireland lead to it.
It's a British border in Ireland created by Westminster with the Government of Ireland Act
And agree to by the government of the Republic.
After the British PM Lloyd George threatened “immediate and terrible war” if the treaty wasn’t signed.
Hondo Trailside the Irish Parliament voted for independence in 1918. It was Westminster who partitioned Ireland. Dublin was given the choice to sign or be annihilated.
Hondo Trailside wouldn’t you sign a contract if you had a gun to your head? 🤔
It's almost like the people who proposed Leave never bothered to think about what difficulties would come up... like they never expected to actually do it...
Sums it up :)
Why is this video 14 minutes. The answer is No.
It should be about 1second long, the same length it takes to cross the border pre-Brexit
It was good to see what they are considering. I hadn't heard the plan for cameras and mobile units before, and that's definitely more appealing than building a checkpoint (mostly because when the cameras get shot nobody gets hurt)
This border problem should have been one of many things that needed to be clear before the referendum... you cant just ask people to buy something before you even know how to build it.
I recall Vote Leave telling us that we need to have strong borders. So how is a virtual border strong?
It's the Trump phenomenon.
At first you make it out like you're gonna build a modern version of the Great Wall of China, with machine gun nests; supporting artillery installations; aircraft bases, that can scramble fighters at a moment's notice; mortars; canine patrols; a slew of cyber-defense measures; Radar installations; and constant satellite surveillance over the border region. Throw in a few IBM installations in Wales just for good measure.
Then as time goes, it gradually devolves into a metal-fence, with a couple of overweight border guards per 100 kilometers of border, and when everyone realizes that it was a shit idea to begin with, they're gonna say that it was always meant as a mental sort of border, as if they're gonna keep the evil Irish and Continentals out through sheer willpower. Incidentally, this is sort of what we have already, except there's no need to keep anyone out. Hey, why don't we keep the current solution? It sounds much better.
@@Boomerrage32. Oh I think you are too quick to poo-poo Trump (And possibly not the first) He also has a solution to protect the Eastern seaboard from rising sea levels. A wall would you believe. And he'll get the fish to pay for it.
@@Geffo555 Well, as long as that wall doesn't also devolve into a chain link wire fence.... cuz, then the only thing that's gonna keep out is the fish....
Do you think the fish speak Spanish btw?
@@Boomerrage32. Only the Mar-a-Lago crappie (Impedianta covfefe) is fluent in Spanish. Chain link fencing is entirely waterproof by the way. Fake Fencing!
UK: "We want open borders with Ireland, and to restrict movement between all EU countries. What's so hard about that?"
It’s not like Ireland is *really* independent. Just kick it out of the EU because brexit!
@@JasperJanssen and why would the EU do that?
Mateusz Wisniewski you must have missed the sarcasm.
@@JasperJanssen Apparently I did.
Please keep in mind sarcasm doesn't translate well in writing, especially over the Internet...
Mateusz Wisniewski actually, one scenario I could hypothetically see is if the terrorists start bombing the EU, demanding the independence of Ireland, and the Irish fail to help enough in getting them brought to justice. But I don’t believe there’s a mechanism to kick anyone out.
I think the Good Friday video could be really helpful for a deeper understanding of the border problem.
We negotiated with terrorists because they were Wight and Christian Hardly in depth but not an inaccurate summary
It’s the British border problem. The British put the border there against the will of the Irish people.
it greatly irateness me and disappoints me that the Norwegian and Swedish borders do not line up
You too? I was trying to jiggle them around in my head, and couldn't make them work.
That top is some next level ‘free stater’
Its nearly at Dublin levels, a massive oversight on their part.
Your shirt of Ireland is incorrect, the northernmost 6 counties are missing.
😇
While it is technically more accurate and is actually quite aesthetically pleasing few Irish people will want a jumper without the 6 counties.
If someone asked us tondra Ireland we always just think of Ireland as the island not the geopolitical nation that it is. Its not necessarily a nationalist statement.
Can we please stop using nationalist to describe Irish Republican. The word nationalist was used as a smear tactic originally to tar Irish Republicans as violent bigots
Paul Hamill Irish Republicans are violent. Irish republicanism is a cancerous ideology that needs to be wiped out.
On your Ireland-with-shoes there is missing the top right corner.
It's not Irish Border. It's British Border in Ireland. Irish people didn't impose this border.
Except there has always been a border, that they themselves imposed when they wanted to stay with the UK. It was an imaginary line, but it was a soft border imposed by keeping with the UK
@@nicolasbehounek805 That's massively incorrect. Always was a border? Totally wrong.
Eoghan Molloy do you know what a border is? Its what separates two countries, each that have their own laws and government
bor·der
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noun
1.
a line separating two political or geographical areas, especially countries.
@@nicolasbehounek805 Sorry but you'll find there are things in life more complicated than dictionary definitions.
9:30 How to incorrectly assemble Norway and Sweden.
Thanks for providing quality information.
I feel like this whole debate is one giant buzzword fight
Brexit nah really 😂
Yeah.... no. The threat of a resurgence of violence is already present and will only get worse if England attempts to violate the good Friday agreement and enforce any kind border within Ireland. It's well past time for England to give up their occupation of Northern Ireland and return it to the people it was stolen from. The Republic of Ireland should in turn institute explicit protections for Northern Ireland to ease the concerns of the Northern Irish.
Should have had an answer before invoking article 50.
Impossible, the EU refused to play ball. Which is just as well, remaining is the answer.
Think positively- it's all project fear.
@@piotrfelix What is this "project fear"?
@@rodhayward836 It's a universal answer to all issues regarding Brexit.
@@piotrfelix I fear a brexit misadventure. Is that "project fear"?
Love what you folks are doing but please understated and give credit to all the parties involved in potential violence, unionist and nationalists.
As recently as yesterday one of the other people up for PM (Matt Hancock) suggested setting up an “Irish Border Council”, the only problem with this being it already essentially exists in the form of any of the East-West Institutions one of the 3 pillars in the Good Friday Agreement 🤦♂️
EDIT: For those wondering the 3 pillars are Devolution e.g. Stormont, the North-South Institutions e.g. North-South Ministerial Council, and the East-West Institutions e.g. British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference.
The merch with "Ireland" minus 6 counties is controversial and offensive. I would stop advertising it. I thought TLDR News knew better than to mess with this sensitive issue.
A video on "the troubles" and the good Friday agreement would be absolutely awesome
A Good Friday Agreement video covering it's Brexit implications would be good. The so called 'back stop' content video would be good too. This mess seems to be an intractable problem. And it will complicated with any 'No Deal' Brexit crash out.
could you make an ireland design with the whole island?
@HazardousPleb V Northern Ireland is not a country it's a province
@HazardousPleb V Most Irish people believe we should be one country,
@@JamesDonnellyDrums I believe the whole world should belong to the UK.
@HazardousPleb V Ireland is also the name of the entire island.
@HazardousPleb V There's a strong argument to be made that most people here want unification. All that is needed is 50%+1 person. Latest polls show that there may be a majority. Also Ireland is the name of our island, not just the name of our republic
Make a T-shirt of chlorinated chicken.
the chlorine is just to kick the flavor up a notch. BAM!
I really hate to be "that guy" but I figure since I work in the field I have to be here. Countries in an FTA don't usually agree to harmonize their regulations (in fact, that's one of the things that makes the EU single market so awesome for the UK - that harmonization breaks down a LOT of regulatory barriers).
Countries agree to do a lot of things that have major impacts that LESSEN the regulatory barriers to entry. For example, they will agree to allow for certain increases in market access for services, or they may agree to waive certain customs regulatory allowances (for example, allowing non-resident importers where they may require non-FTA members to have an internal agent). They also agree to treat suppliers from the other party no less favourably than their own - for example they cannot say "We will reject your permit application because you're foreign, but we'd grant one to an identical company doing an identical thing... like a wholly owned domestic subsidiary you want to incorporate."
At the really far end you may get situations like in CETA. In CETA there's a process to allow regulatory TESTING agencies to be certified in the other party. That will allow testing/compliance companies in Canada certify that products meet EU standards and vice versa. However, the products still must meet relevant standards in the other territory - I can make a widget that will meet Canada widget standards, and can be sold here, but may not meet EU standards. There is not usually a mutual recognition of the regulations in the other party.
Once again, that's what makes the EU single market awesome. You make a widget you can sell in London, and you can put it on a boat and sell that EXACT SAME WIDGET in Berlin. No additional checks/testing/product changes etc. In addition, certain areas that are traditionally super protectionist (like financial services) generally have little to no liberalization in FTAs - but the UK currently gets full passporting rights throughout the EU.
You're talking logic to people literally suggesting we reopen our mines and focus on British manufacturing.
-Nothern ireland reunification.
Brexiters TRIGGERED
Nigel Farage- the Irish patriot that united the country.
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ROFL! 🤣 😂 😅
I'd love to see a vid about the backstop!
Then do one on what Sci-fi movie the brexiteers thought they lived in when they came up with the "tech border solution"
If the eu wants a border in Ireland they have to build it. The Irish pm has admitted this
Do not ever wear that hoodie anywhere in Ireland. For safety concerns. If there's a hard border any English Gov will never be trusted again
Your t-shirt is not a representation of "Ireland" a big lump of it at the top is missing!
Kind of funny hearing people talking about putting a border in Ireland between Ireland and Ireland because of a minority of anti Irish people and then briefly mentioning that Ireland is not ok with it but continuing on talking as if it that is a minor detail.
The border going through the sea makes most sense, the border going through Scotland sounds reasonable.
The border going around a housing estate for the hard brexiteers sounds best, they could have their own country in London outside EU till they beg to come back
I live and was born in Northern Ireland and have an Irish passport because of the good Friday agreement. What I'm looking to know from the next video is will it be possible for my Irish citizenship to be revoked due to Brexit. Haven't seen anyone talk about this yet.
Unlikely, citizenship is granted by the Irish government, the UK can't revoke it and it's highly unlikely the Irish government would.
I don't think so. A lot of British people with Irish connections have been applying for Irish passports so that they don't lose their EU citizenship.
You'll be able to keep your Irish citizenship,
But it will get complicated if UK and EU diverge on human rights, workers rights etc...
But that can be resolved through European Court of Human Rights. I expect there will be many court cases in the years ahead.
@Gerben van Straaten I do have dual citizenship. The issue being that the British government stance is that Northern Irish people are British first and Irish next, so to actually have Irish citizenship I would have to reject British citizenship, bit weird. Might have to dig up the weapons stash down the road haha.
@@KnomeshooterFILM I guarantee that all this nonsense will be going to European Court of Human Rights once Brexit is over. There is nothing in GFA which says you should be considered British first.
Perhaps i'm missing something being American. Why can't the UK just give back that small piece of land to Ireland, so they have the whole island? Then there is no Irish border problem.
Because Ireland was a British colony with unionist brits on it that do not match with the catholic natives Irish. Irish civil war pushed the unionist brits to the north creating de facto 2 Ireland : Independent Republic of Ireland in the south and North Ireland part of UK. It's a good old religion war. The only solution is a reunited federal Ireland. It is possible as the GFA says that the NI can join, via referendum, the RI whenever they want. The last thing that EU wants, is a new war in Ireland but, brexit is creating this probability.
An useful analogy would be suggesting giving Texas back to Mexico :D
Basically, if NI joins ROI then Unionist Terrorism will start up again. That is why we aspire to, over decades of peaceful co-existence, have those born to unionist backgrounds realize they should foresake Britain and become nationalists. If there own community outgrows the tantrum that is Northern Ireland there will be no fuel for them.
Twilord I’m from The new Generation. You can sure as hell bet They’re be Fighting. We Chose to stay and when The vote goes 51/49%, that’s 49% of the country going against you.
@@arkaauofficial9457 If Ireland is part of the EU, and Brexit goes through, and the UK tries to use military force against Ireland, would the EU go to war with the UK?
if i havent worked out how to use the code by june 3rd, can i ask for an extension, until me and my entire family can work out whether it is even a good idea to use the code? (but if we still cant work it out, we may have to ask for a longer extension)
Typical British Project Proposal.... buzzwords, pretty fonts and graphics, but unfortunately total bollocks.
True!
I'd definitely be interested in learning more about the Backstop. What it is, what it's for etcetc. It's a phrase that has been bandied around a lot but nobody ever seems to put into context what it is in the way that you've so successfully done with every other topic you've touched on so far.
I think you'll find it's the British border problem, thanks.
Ireland's problem - the UK is not bound by the EU rules which mean Ireland has to have a border as the frontier country.
@@truckerfromreno A border between customs territories is mandated by international law via the WTO, not the EU. It's the UK's problem, they invaded the island, partitioned the island and now they want to commit suicide and have a hard border as collateral damage.
By all means destroy yourselves, nobody really cares anymore but please try to avoid taking other people down with you.
@@DoctorCiaran I want Britain to walk away and let the Germans have all of Ireland - it has over half now.
@@truckerfromreno yeah please do, just go away and learn your lesson on your own, quietly, without bothering anyone else
The technology option sounds far to optimistic, I wonder how long the system would work and how long physical checks wouldn't be done when one of the mobile units pulls over a smuggler. Not too long I reckon til the GFA would be forgotten.
I sure as hell would not want be part of that mobile unit in South Armagh!
The PSNI chief Constable stated he needed atleast 10,000 extra Officers if there was a hard border and there legitimately isn’t the money. Know what that means? The British army back on the streets of enniskillen, Crossmaglen, Downpatrick etc and more young British and Irish boys will die in the fields and roads of the 6 counties for the brain dead men in Whitehall
"and create its own rules", not its own rules, trade deals take at least 2 parties. A negotiated set of rules enforced by a third party would be more correct.
Excellent channel. Great video. Brilliant content.
Solution: have another referendum, remain wins, call it quits on Brexit. Case closed.
Callie Masters imagine what a colossal waste of money this would be then
Treble Champions Again Well if you say so... European elections suggest otherwise, given that remain parties combined go more votes than proBrexit parties
@@simeongeorgiev852 Brexit without actual Brexit is already costing the UK £600m a week. £87bn since 2016 according to the Bank of England.
Treble Champions Again How can it be a lie when there are literally official results online
Most people in Ireland would want to buy that design because u left out the north. If u don't believe me look into the UFC rebook mistake they made where they used the same map of Ireland without using the full Ireland
Hmm, it will be interesting to see how hard a Conservative leader would fight an Irish reunification vote ... sounds like it might make a problem or two go away.
Or make that problem worse...
on paper, northern ireland leaving the UK and reuniting with the republic of ireland would solve everything. the problem is that if they left, scotland would most certainly follow suit as the union would already be starting to break apart, and when it's just england and wales left, many countries in the commonwealth could decide that if they need to change the union flag in the corner of their flags anyway, then maybe that would be the best time to just break that tie also. could have a domino effect.
You're forgetting the other issue that is the Irish economy wouldn't cope with all the sudden extra people and infrastructure and you'd be stuck in a miserable recession like us for years just trying to readjust the north.