I never tire of watching hiking/camping stove videos. Thanks for showing the difference. I too like the versatility of being able to use wood, pellets, & alcohol. I like that in an emergency I can cook indoors with alcohol.
Another great informative video . I have the Goshawk 206 Atomic and it's a great little stove. Used it many times and found that for me it works better as a bottom lit stove. I find that you have much more control over heat. Stacking to just below the gasification ports is ok for a quick boil but I still prefer lighting from the bottom and adding as I need. Also works great with a trangia with only using the top section as you showed.
I have not played a lot with lighting it from the bottom as these stoves often work best with TLUD. Having said that. I will try it again lit from the bottom. Thanks for commenting
Great review, Mark, as always. Kind of back to your roots as I subscribed a few years ago when you were doing a lot of wood stove reviews. Happy with my Lixada tower stove but always have an eye out for the next one 🙂
I bought the atomic 206 the first week it came out and have used it like you have. I’m very very happy with it. I also got the same results you did. I will say I didn’t like using wood pellets in it though. I had trouble getting the fire going when I used just wood pellets. I believe that’s because the air flow is cut off unlike when I used trigs and small chunks of wood. Overall, I’m glad I made the purchase and I have cooked steaks, eggs, bacon etc on it with great results. The gasification system on the atomic 206 is impressive.
I see Goshawk has improved the construction of the 205 by forming the main body from a single pressed piece of titanium. At $62 USD, it's comparable in price to the Evernew DX, but the Evernew doesn't burn wood. I'm tempted to get this with their wicking burner. Nice design.
Neat looking stoves. I'm addicted to cooking stoves so one day may have to add them to my collection I'm starting to form😁 Thanks for the demo. It looks like they perform reasonably well.
I was trying to figure out how to pack my Kelly Kettle Trekker for my upcoming northbound Appalachian Trail thruhike, beginning March 30th. I finally gave up, as I will be carrying a bear canister on this trip (2+ pounds, and bulky). In playing around with the titanium wood stoves I have on hand, I realized that the top of my large Toaks tower stove will burn long enough to boil 2 cups of water with one load of sticks. I also found a holiday candy tin which has a top that fits the bottom of the top section of the Toaks stove perfectly. The combination weighs 2-7/8 oz. Cut down pot supports from my Kelly Kettle weigh an additional 2-3/8 oz. and seem to be worth carrying. I plan on riveting the candy tin top in place and sticking it into the side pocket of my pack, placing my stainless 40 oz. Klean Kanteen inside of it. I will carry my 1.3 liter Evernew titanium pot, a Snow Peak cup, my Supercat alcohol stove, and my titanium foil windscreen from Backpacking Light (with paper clips to hold it together) in the pot, inside the bear canister, with my food. I still have to do a "real world" test with damp twigs in the wind, with the windscreen made of a section of my Seek Outside Hot tent stove. Gasification is overrated, imo, especially for a hiker on the move. Fwiw: using the fire starter on top of the wood fails to utilize a very useful aspect of a fire starter: drying out slightly damp tinder above it. Thanks again, for another excellent comparison video. 👍
You have obviously given a lot of thought on how to reduce your pack weight. I am not a through hiker so I don't mind carrying more weight. I have been planning an update video for the KK Trekker. Addressing the weight and bulk issue is part of what I want to accomplish. Just need to get started with it. Thanks for commenting
I also have the Pioneer and like it for both wood and alcohol. It does require a lot of feed of twigs which can get troublesome but that’s a limitation of all small volume stoves.
Unless there’s a possibility of snuffing out the fire, as soon as I get a flame going, I put the pot/pan on. By the time it starts gasification, I’ve cut my cooking time in half. Both of the stoves are cool. ✌️🇺🇸🇨🇦✌️
Absolutely, Waiting for full gasification wastes fuel. Same with the Trangia, waiting for a bloom. There is a lot of concern about waiting until the fire is "smokeless" and it will never truly be. Thanks for commenting
@@chriscon8463 The only concern is to get the flame going enough so when you put the pot on, it has enough air to keep it going. Depending on whether the wood is damp or dry, maybe waiting a minute or two before putting the pot on. Eventually it will bloom.✌️
Thanks Mark, always interesting. I think I will stick with my large Toaks titainum tower stove for it works about the same and no rivets to pop off. Both these Gosshawks look like nice stoves though and do have a cool name.
All I want is for Solo Stove to make titanium versions of their stoves, especially the Titan size. Maybe even Ranger. But yeah, I need it all enclosed 🙈 cheers for the video Mark!
Being that i'm never in a hurry, speed to boil is unimportant.. a lower temp and burn rate is, as i do more cooking then boiling. Though i am a " pocked rocket 2 " man i am leaning more towards the 206.. the ability to add sticks when i need them and control the burn is convenient and more important to me. nice informative video thanks
Been using the 206 Atomic for quite some time and I'm like you, I love that you can control the heat . I feel it works much better bottom lit and adding as you need. The only thing I would change is the feet. In some conditions the wire feet are too thin and sink a little bit in most cases they are fine. Can totally recommend this stove. You can check out my Instagram for some photos of it in use. :)
Great video! I'm totally new to that kind of stove and don't have one yet. I was using a Jetboil for years and I'm now looking something as compact, but to use with wood or pellets. I first heard of popular Solo Stove (Lite or Titan) and while I was looking for reviews of cheap alternatives from Amazon, I found your channel and I can't stop watching videos from many many more similar stoves. I'm curious to hear your opinion about a good option to start. I like both compact options from Solo obviously but also find interesting the Eddy 206, the Arnaud Kombuis and a cheap TOMSHOO... I can't decide.
I think that is why I keep testing them. So many options all a bit different. Hard for me to suggest which is best. I am testing the Kombuis 2.0 now. Review soon. Thanks for commenting
Looks great! But same "problem" as many other wood stoves - they need a bottom like Solo Stove. Of course you can bring an extra titanium cup lid or similar to put under just a shame it's not integrated.
It would be a nice to have a base. I would guess weigh and material cost is the reason it is not built in. Maybe they could offer an optional base. Thanks for commenting
I do wish they had a bottom like the Bushbuddy that would protect surfaces under them. I found that the top for the cup that I store my 205 in will work as such but then I'm left without a cup lid. Otherwise, the Goshawk is a great little stove.
True; however, consider that these stoves are better compared with the Mini Bushbuddy which does not have a bottom either. I use aluminum foil and usually have a small fiberglass ground sheet under my stoves. Thanks for commenting
I was looking at those was 2 models a few months back and wondering how they compared. Once again, you have put out another impressive review. Cheers from New Brunswick 👍
First many thanks for sharing. You mention burnout times but no conditions, please clarify. Just removing a boiled pot and allowing it to burnout is heating up space, wasting of fuel and time. Hopefully burnout times are in use / under working conditions, ie cooking something. Could the Pioneer be adapted, a removable drawing chimney added (AliExpress 100mm 0.01thick? Titanium foil made into a tube). Or make an addable interim collar to improve gasification and incorporate a feed port. Thanks again Take care
They just introduced 2.0 versions of these Mark! Let’s see the NEW VERSION reviews! (I just ordered the new Atomic/Wood version with the BBQ GRILL attachment since I already have the older Pioneer/alcohol version) 👍🏽
Thanks for the review Mark. Have you cooked food with either stove? How did they do? I am patient for boiling water as I want to cook without torching my food. Thanks!
Apparently the pro version is now taller. I wonder how well it would do against the atomic. I really don't understand why they don't just blend the best of the two into a single stove. The pro only needs to be taller with a window.
I understand what you are saying. I find each stove better at something than the other but they are so close one stove may be the better choice. Thanks for commenting
I went with the pioneer pro. I like that the top is open as opposed to the criss cross stand blocking the top for feeding. Also not having the feed port on the side makes for a better wind shield, especially for alcohol stoves. This thing is a pellet champ. Also, it nests perfectly in a Toaks 750 ml if you don’t want the goshawk pot.
Another great informative video, Mark. Thanks 👍 I've been waiting for it after you said Goshawk sent u these 2 to review. But isn't their siphon stove made out of aluminum? That may account for that weight difference you felt? I have an addiction to titanium that must be continuously fed LoLz 😝 so I, too opted for the Lixada siphon
Their siphon stove is indeed titanium. My new understanding is that the extra weight of it acts to hold heat that further helps with making the alcohol boil faster. Interesting way of doing it. Thanks for commenting
Love your vedios I have the original l multi stove love it would it be worth adding and upgrading with the pioneer or is there. O difference between them ?
I still enjoy using the original Pioneer but the new version does work better with wood than the old. If you use only wood pellets and alcohol you may not notice a difference. Thanks for commenting
I have so many stoves now 😂… I don’t know why but I can’t stop… I think the gasification of wood stoves is key. I have the uberlieben stove but takes forever.
For me, the difference between the two styles is how much time you want to spend processing wood. Small wood gas stove (actually, all small stoves) require small bits of wood and to be replenished often. Not a criticism, just and observation. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft agreed Mark. At this point I have 30 plus stoves. Someone would really need to impress me. Firebox has set the bar high in my opinion. As far as cheap gasifier stoves go my Ohuhu is damn good at $17 with a couple modifications. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
Great Review Mark,,, My understanding of Gasification is,,, other gas’s from the burning of wood, drop down to the bottom of the stove and then come back Up in between the burn chamber and outter wall . Then igniting as they come out the hole’s just below top of the burn chamber. Not having the bottom of the stove Closed/ Sealed,, doesn’t that Greatly reduce/ distract the gas’s from traveling back up to the upper burn ports,,??? Compared to the Solo or Bushbuddy gasification stoves,,, Thanks Mark,,,,, Joshua
My understanding is different. The initial burn on top (TLUD) creates heat that causes the wood to release its gasses. The process is similar to wood charring in a vacuum. Air does indeed flow up through the bottom to feed this pre-combustion state but it is clean air that flows up through the side walls and is heated as it does. This new air then mixes with the how and un combusted wood gasses and we have flame. Open to being persuaded differently. Thanks for commenting
No gasses drop down. The heat creates an updraft which pulls fresh air from the bottom through the double wall and reignites the remaining gasses at the top holes, creating a very hot exhaust.
That being said... I do wish my toaks tower stove had the feet at the bottom. I may look into trying to make my own after seeing how goshawk incorporated it in their stove.
Saw the eddy 205 in paleo hiker’s channel a while ago and apparently they improved the design. Same happened with their Steampunk alcohol stove, for which they made another pot stand. This company listens and improves upon their products! Five stars. Thanks for another top notch in-depth review Mark!
Yes, I can confirm this. I bought their new titanium kettle 2.0 design with the Pioneer Pro. The handle on the kettle had bad welds on the retaining rings (too small, needed welds all the way around) They would easily fall off and disappear in an outdoors setting. Anyway, they've stopped selling them until they fix it. Promised to send me a new revised one for free. I really appreciate that. Need to be able to rely on such equipment. I hope it lasts for decades.
I am looking at the eddy 200 stove only . I have a toaks 750 pot already . I like stoves the don’t have to many extra pieces liane the pack stove xl the eddy 200 would be right for me
I have a review of the Eddy 200. I bough that one myself. The only concern I had with it were the pot supports not having enough contact with my Tomshoo 750ml pot. A slight bend inwards and it is much better. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft thanks for the tip i will try that when i order mine. i am also lookig at ordering a Ecobilly 700ml from downunder . they don't ship to Canada but my nephew is there for school and has a aussie mailing address . then he ship it to me .
What is SMOKE? Unburnt fuel... try to increase AIR to burn the smoke fuel...balance the combustion equation HEAT-OXYGEN_FUEL. Remember AIR only 20% O2 hence 5X required. If a store-bought stove cannot perform better than a tin-can with a few vent holes... pay? Go figure. Good luck!
@@margueritemitchell1829 if ur interested in either stoves, I have the previously reviewed stove, the Goshawk Eddy-200 Pioneer, and I've tested it a couple times with wood pellets, and with the alcohol burner, but haven't tried actually cooking on either yet, just boiled water. I'm open to hiking locally to check it out & continue testing the stove's capabilities?
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I never tire of watching hiking/camping stove videos. Thanks for showing the difference. I too like the versatility of being able to use wood, pellets, & alcohol. I like that in an emergency I can cook indoors with alcohol.
Yes, exactly. These stoves tick all the boxes. Thanks for commenting
Another great informative video . I have the Goshawk 206 Atomic and it's a great little stove. Used it many times and found that for me it works better as a bottom lit stove.
I find that you have much more control over heat. Stacking to just below the gasification ports is ok for a quick boil but I still prefer lighting from the bottom and adding as I need.
Also works great with a trangia with only using the top section as you showed.
I have not played a lot with lighting it from the bottom as these stoves often work best with TLUD. Having said that. I will try it again lit from the bottom. Thanks for commenting
Great review, Mark, as always. Kind of back to your roots as I subscribed a few years ago when you were doing a lot of wood stove reviews. Happy with my Lixada tower stove but always have an eye out for the next one 🙂
I am on the hunt for more wood stoves to test out. May get my old ones out and bring them back. Thanks for commenting George
I bought the atomic 206 the first week it came out and have used it like you have. I’m very very happy with it. I also got the same results you did.
I will say I didn’t like using wood pellets in it though. I had trouble getting the fire going when I used just wood pellets. I believe that’s because the air flow is cut off unlike when I used trigs and small chunks of wood.
Overall, I’m glad I made the purchase and I have cooked steaks, eggs, bacon etc on it with great results. The gasification system on the atomic 206 is impressive.
I agree. Thanks for commenting
I see Goshawk has improved the construction of the 205 by forming the main body from a single pressed piece of titanium. At $62 USD, it's comparable in price to the Evernew DX, but the Evernew doesn't burn wood. I'm tempted to get this with their wicking burner. Nice design.
Goshawk has been constantly improving their products. Thanks for commenting
Really Like How These Nest Together, Great Demo, Mark ! ATB T God Bless
Thanks for commenting Terry
Neat looking stoves. I'm addicted to cooking stoves so one day may have to add them to my collection I'm starting to form😁 Thanks for the demo. It looks like they perform reasonably well.
They do work great. Still small stoves of course. Thanks for commenting
I was trying to figure out how to pack my Kelly Kettle Trekker for my upcoming northbound Appalachian Trail thruhike, beginning March 30th. I finally gave up, as I will be carrying a bear canister on this trip (2+ pounds, and bulky).
In playing around with the titanium wood stoves I have on hand, I realized that the top of my large Toaks tower stove will burn long enough to boil 2 cups of water with one load of sticks. I also found a holiday candy tin which has a top that fits the bottom of the top section of the Toaks stove perfectly. The combination weighs 2-7/8 oz. Cut down pot supports from my Kelly Kettle weigh an additional 2-3/8 oz. and seem to be worth carrying. I plan on riveting the candy tin top in place and sticking it into the side pocket of my pack, placing my stainless 40 oz. Klean Kanteen inside of it. I will carry my 1.3 liter Evernew titanium pot, a Snow Peak cup, my Supercat alcohol stove, and my titanium foil windscreen from Backpacking Light (with paper clips to hold it together) in the pot, inside the bear canister, with my food. I still have to do a "real world" test with damp twigs in the wind, with the windscreen made of a section of my Seek Outside Hot tent stove.
Gasification is overrated, imo, especially for a hiker on the move.
Fwiw: using the fire starter on top of the wood fails to utilize a very useful aspect of a fire starter: drying out slightly damp tinder above it.
Thanks again, for another excellent comparison video. 👍
You have obviously given a lot of thought on how to reduce your pack weight. I am not a through hiker so I don't mind carrying more weight. I have been planning an update video for the KK Trekker. Addressing the weight and bulk issue is part of what I want to accomplish. Just need to get started with it. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Looking forward to your KK update. Wish you had a Scout model to compare also.
Thank you for your very through review. I will keep those 2 products in mind when deciding on my next wood stove.
Hard to wrong with either stove, or both. Thanks for commenting
I love your pyro vids! Thank you Mark!
So much fun. Thanks for commenting
Another great review, thanks Mark.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
I also have the Pioneer and like it for both wood and alcohol. It does require a lot of feed of twigs which can get troublesome but that’s a limitation of all small volume stoves.
I agree. For me, these stoves are fill once, fire once. Enough to do a boil up. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I am playing with a just bought Winterwell Backpack Stove now. Should be interesting.
Unless there’s a possibility of snuffing out the fire, as soon as I get a flame going, I put the pot/pan on. By the time it starts gasification, I’ve cut my cooking time in half. Both of the stoves are cool. ✌️🇺🇸🇨🇦✌️
Is there any drawback to doing this? Is the flame likely to not “bloom” unless out in the open?
Absolutely, Waiting for full gasification wastes fuel. Same with the Trangia, waiting for a bloom. There is a lot of concern about waiting until the fire is "smokeless" and it will never truly be. Thanks for commenting
@@chriscon8463 The only concern is to get the flame going enough so when you put the pot on, it has enough air to keep it going. Depending on whether the wood is damp or dry, maybe waiting a minute or two before putting the pot on. Eventually it will bloom.✌️
Thanks Mark, always interesting. I think I will stick with my large Toaks titainum tower stove for it works about the same and no rivets to pop off. Both these Gosshawks look like nice stoves though and do have a cool name.
Also a good little stove. Thanks for commenting
Very comprehensive. Thank you
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
All I want is for Solo Stove to make titanium versions of their stoves, especially the Titan size. Maybe even Ranger. But yeah, I need it all enclosed 🙈 cheers for the video Mark!
That would ne interesting if expensive. Thanks for commenting
What about doing what i do and carry a small piece of carbon felt to put underneath
I really like the pot handle. Cool stoves!
Different for sure. Thanks for commenting
Check out their new pot 2.0
Being that i'm never in a hurry, speed to boil is unimportant.. a lower temp and burn rate is, as i do more cooking then boiling. Though i am a " pocked rocket 2 " man i am leaning more towards the 206.. the ability to add sticks when i need them and control the burn is convenient and more important to me. nice informative video thanks
I agree with you about the 206 being better for slow cooking. Just add the fuel you need to maintain the heat you want. Thanks for commenting
Been using the 206 Atomic for quite some time and I'm like you, I love that you can control the heat . I feel it works much better bottom lit and adding as you need. The only thing I would change is the feet. In some conditions the wire feet are too thin and sink a little bit in most cases they are fine. Can totally recommend this stove.
You can check out my Instagram for some photos of it in use. :)
Great video! I'm totally new to that kind of stove and don't have one yet. I was using a Jetboil for years and I'm now looking something as compact, but to use with wood or pellets. I first heard of popular Solo Stove (Lite or Titan) and while I was looking for reviews of cheap alternatives from Amazon, I found your channel and I can't stop watching videos from many many more similar stoves. I'm curious to hear your opinion about a good option to start. I like both compact options from Solo obviously but also find interesting the Eddy 206, the Arnaud Kombuis and a cheap TOMSHOO... I can't decide.
I think that is why I keep testing them. So many options all a bit different. Hard for me to suggest which is best. I am testing the Kombuis 2.0 now. Review soon. Thanks for commenting
Looks great! But same "problem" as many other wood stoves - they need a bottom like Solo Stove. Of course you can bring an extra titanium cup lid or similar to put under just a shame it's not integrated.
It would be a nice to have a base. I would guess weigh and material cost is the reason it is not built in. Maybe they could offer an optional base. Thanks for commenting
On the Goshawk video, they use the alcohol burner to light the wood from the bottom
I do wish they had a bottom like the Bushbuddy that would protect surfaces under them. I found that the top for the cup that I store my 205 in will work as such but then I'm left without a cup lid. Otherwise, the Goshawk is a great little stove.
True; however, consider that these stoves are better compared with the Mini Bushbuddy which does not have a bottom either. I use aluminum foil and usually have a small fiberglass ground sheet under my stoves. Thanks for commenting
Very Cool Mark ! I like the look of these and also the look of the Goshawk Folding Pad .....cheers my friend !,;;; Spook
Thanks for commenting Spook
I was looking at those was 2 models a few months back and wondering how they compared. Once again, you have put out another impressive review. Cheers from New Brunswick 👍
Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for commenting
First many thanks for sharing.
You mention burnout times but no conditions, please clarify.
Just removing a boiled pot and allowing it to burnout is heating up space, wasting of fuel and time.
Hopefully burnout times are in use / under working conditions, ie cooking something.
Could the Pioneer be adapted, a removable drawing chimney added (AliExpress 100mm 0.01thick? Titanium foil made into a tube).
Or make an addable interim collar to improve gasification and incorporate a feed port.
Thanks again
Take care
Some interesting suggestions for improvements. Worth considering. Thanks for commenting
They just introduced 2.0 versions of these Mark!
Let’s see the NEW VERSION reviews! (I just ordered the new Atomic/Wood version with the BBQ GRILL attachment since I already have the older Pioneer/alcohol version) 👍🏽
I will check them out and see if they are interested in having me review them. Thanks for commenting
I purchased BOTH of the new versions. Looking forward to your take on these NEWER versions. Thanks Mark! 👍🏽
Thanks for the review Mark. Have you cooked food with either stove? How did they do? I am patient for boiling water as I want to cook without torching my food. Thanks!
I have and it can be a challenge to keep the heat low and steady. The 206 is easier as you can feed wood as you need to. Hope this helps
Good review Mark , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Apparently the pro version is now taller. I wonder how well it would do against the atomic. I really don't understand why they don't just blend the best of the two into a single stove. The pro only needs to be taller with a window.
I understand what you are saying. I find each stove better at something than the other but they are so close one stove may be the better choice. Thanks for commenting
I went with the pioneer pro. I like that the top is open as opposed to the criss cross stand blocking the top for feeding. Also not having the feed port on the side makes for a better wind shield, especially for alcohol stoves. This thing is a pellet champ. Also, it nests perfectly in a Toaks 750 ml if you don’t want the goshawk pot.
Good choice. Thanks for commenting
Nice stoves. Great comparison video.
The Atomic is 162g or 5.7oz. you have 7.7oz in the description.
Thanks for that!
Another great informative video, Mark. Thanks 👍
I've been waiting for it after you said Goshawk sent u these 2 to review. But isn't their siphon stove made out of aluminum? That may account for that weight difference you felt?
I have an addiction to titanium that must be continuously fed LoLz 😝 so I, too opted for the Lixada siphon
Their siphon stove is indeed titanium. My new understanding is that the extra weight of it acts to hold heat that further helps with making the alcohol boil faster. Interesting way of doing it. Thanks for commenting
Love your vedios I have the original l multi stove love it would it be worth adding and upgrading with the pioneer or is there. O difference between them ?
I still enjoy using the original Pioneer but the new version does work better with wood than the old. If you use only wood pellets and alcohol you may not notice a difference. Thanks for commenting
I have so many stoves now 😂… I don’t know why but I can’t stop… I think the gasification of wood stoves is key. I have the uberlieben stove but takes forever.
For me, the difference between the two styles is how much time you want to spend processing wood. Small wood gas stove (actually, all small stoves) require small bits of wood and to be replenished often. Not a criticism, just and observation. Thanks for commenting
Could you use Esbit tablets on the Eddy 205 as well? Thank you for the video.
Yes, however, the distance from the grate to the top will prevent the tablet from performing at its best. Thanks for commenting
To many companies trying to reinvent the wheel. So many others have set the bar high.
Evolution in action. The best advances will survive and then be copied. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft agreed Mark. At this point I have 30 plus stoves. Someone would really need to impress me. Firebox has set the bar high in my opinion. As far as cheap gasifier stoves go my Ohuhu is damn good at $17 with a couple modifications. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
Great Review Mark,,,
My understanding of Gasification is,,, other gas’s from the burning of wood, drop down to the bottom of the stove and then come back Up in between the burn chamber and outter wall . Then igniting as they come out the hole’s just below top of the burn chamber. Not having the bottom of the stove Closed/ Sealed,, doesn’t that Greatly reduce/ distract the gas’s from traveling back up to the upper burn ports,,??? Compared to the Solo or Bushbuddy gasification stoves,,,
Thanks Mark,,,,, Joshua
My understanding is different. The initial burn on top (TLUD) creates heat that causes the wood to release its gasses. The process is similar to wood charring in a vacuum. Air does indeed flow up through the bottom to feed this pre-combustion state but it is clean air that flows up through the side walls and is heated as it does. This new air then mixes with the how and un combusted wood gasses and we have flame. Open to being persuaded differently. Thanks for commenting
No gasses drop down. The heat creates an updraft which pulls fresh air from the bottom through the double wall and reignites the remaining gasses at the top holes, creating a very hot exhaust.
Can you use this stove with propane or butane?
Not easily. It may be possible to adapt a burner into the fire grate but there is no place for the gas tube to exit. Thanks for commenting
Nice Review my Friend
Thank you kindly
Would that pin on your jacket be a Coleman lantern pin ?
My favourite coffee. Rampage. Thanks for commenting
I like the look of these stoves, but the pot support on both have something to be desired...
That being said... I do wish my toaks tower stove had the feet at the bottom. I may look into trying to make my own after seeing how goshawk incorporated it in their stove.
Let me know how that works out. Thanks for commenting
Saw the eddy 205 in paleo hiker’s channel a while ago and apparently they improved the design. Same happened with their Steampunk alcohol stove, for which they made another pot stand.
This company listens and improves upon their products! Five stars.
Thanks for another top notch in-depth review Mark!
Would like to see the atomic eddy 206 vs your previous reviewed lixada tower stove
Glad you liked the video. I will see what I can do about a comparison. Thanks for commenting
Yes, I can confirm this. I bought their new titanium kettle 2.0 design with the Pioneer Pro.
The handle on the kettle had bad welds on the retaining rings (too small, needed welds all the way around)
They would easily fall off and disappear in an outdoors setting.
Anyway, they've stopped selling them until they fix it. Promised to send me a new revised one for free. I really appreciate that. Need to be able to rely on such equipment. I hope it lasts for decades.
You can use some hacks to still use the kettle, like using an external handle. hopefully you wont trash it.@@savagebushranger7953
I am looking at the eddy 200 stove only . I have a toaks 750 pot already . I like stoves the don’t have to many extra pieces liane the pack stove xl the eddy 200 would be right for me
I have a review of the Eddy 200. I bough that one myself. The only concern I had with it were the pot supports not having enough contact with my Tomshoo 750ml pot. A slight bend inwards and it is much better. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft thanks for the tip i will try that when i order mine. i am also lookig at ordering a Ecobilly 700ml from downunder . they don't ship to Canada but my nephew is there for school and has a aussie mailing address . then he ship it to me .
What is SMOKE? Unburnt fuel... try to increase AIR to burn the smoke fuel...balance the combustion equation HEAT-OXYGEN_FUEL. Remember AIR only 20% O2 hence 5X required. If a store-bought stove cannot perform better than a tin-can with a few vent holes... pay? Go figure. Good luck!
Thanks for commenting
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Hey Marguerite, ☺️ where in BC? I'm in Vancouver, but grew up in the Interior & was born in Northern BC 👍
I am in the lower mainland
@@margueritemitchell1829 if ur interested in either stoves, I have the previously reviewed stove, the Goshawk Eddy-200 Pioneer, and I've tested it a couple times with wood pellets, and with the alcohol burner, but haven't tried actually cooking on either yet, just boiled water. I'm open to hiking locally to check it out & continue testing the stove's capabilities?