The harsh reality of Premier League relegation

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

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  • @jubs4383
    @jubs4383 Год назад +3274

    You summed up Everton's positon perfectly. With our insane wage bill and new stadium there would be literally no money left in the championship. Lucky for us were in the best position to avoid the drop at the moment, I just hope and pray we dont bottle it against Bournemouth.

    • @peccogamble3578
      @peccogamble3578 Год назад

      I hope u loose

    • @TheOriginalEwan
      @TheOriginalEwan Год назад +196

      Here’s hoping. The idea of Everton going down to the championship after so many years in the premier league doesn’t sit right with me.

    • @aldev4832
      @aldev4832 Год назад +129

      I genuinely dont get why people think Everton are nailed on to beat Bournemouth...I see Bournmouth as a much better side and they are now playing without pressure I expect them to blitz Everton. If Bournemouth start well Evertons fans will create a toxic environment and their players will crumble

    • @Eso20213
      @Eso20213 Год назад +42

      ​@@dickbuttkiss1991 agreed, Bournemouth are a good side and Leeds will beat the bottlers
      Edit: just to clarify I meant Tottenham, although there is two bottlers in the premier league this season so I can see why people would get confused

    • @lordhenrywotton95
      @lordhenrywotton95 Год назад +27

      At least the owners got something right. Sean Dyche is exactly the sort of no nonsense coach Everton need.

  • @bigbearrecordingstudio7921
    @bigbearrecordingstudio7921 Год назад +1503

    It's insane how Leicester miraculously won the league what seemed like only yesterday

    • @RafPos13
      @RafPos13 Год назад

      in 3 years its gonna be a decade since they won it...

    • @aarnethn
      @aarnethn Год назад +67

      Blackburn Rovers felt that pain before 😢

    • @Pook54
      @Pook54 Год назад +161

      What's more miraculous is we managed to win the FA cup while we've been on this downward trajectory.

    • @bigbearrecordingstudio7921
      @bigbearrecordingstudio7921 Год назад +27

      @@Pook54 back stronger bro, also a plus side is we can now do fifa career mode or football manager saves for leicester championship road to glory 😄😄😄

    • @saif_roblox762
      @saif_roblox762 Год назад +18

      Now they’re in the Championship…. Possibly the greatest downfall in the Premier League’s history. Champions to Championship.

  • @dentonyoung4314
    @dentonyoung4314 Год назад +1405

    Basically, if you get relegated and don't bounce back right away, once that third year hits you're just another team battling it out in the Championship. Look at Stoke City, for instance. Once they couldn't bounce back in the first two years, the last of the parachute payments was in year 3 and now they're not going to come back for a long while.

    • @adamwallis3235
      @adamwallis3235 Год назад +187

      And i think Norwich just finished 12th this year too and they were the poster child for "Yo-yo clubs"

    • @kevindodd4363
      @kevindodd4363 Год назад +86

      I don't hear a ton of people wishing Stoke were back in the Prem

    • @mrwabbit9576
      @mrwabbit9576 Год назад +132

      Swansea is another. Lost 2 playoffs against Brentford and then when the 4th year came they had to sell their key players like Ayew, Mark Guehi left and others leaving Swansea battling it out in the lower mid table.

    • @filmonewaldeabsebhat
      @filmonewaldeabsebhat Год назад +25

      Leeds fan. We know this all to well.

    • @rgi44
      @rgi44 Год назад +28

      ​@@mrwabbit9576 how about Cardiff, they literally almost got relegated to League One

  • @DJVm4GOD1
    @DJVm4GOD1 Год назад +1220

    Sunderland might even be another example. That club should've went down many years before they even did, and by time they did, it really damaged the club, to the point it took them years to get to where they are now, but if you look at it in context, they're in a far better position, then they were before. Relegation can hurt clubs for sure, but it's always looked at in a negative light, when there are positive lights there too.

    • @BhBc8f8
      @BhBc8f8 Год назад +74

      Lol true it brings you back to humble beginnings and reminds you what's actually important in Football. Damn that made me emotional, someone should make a relegation movie 🤣

    • @redx11x
      @redx11x Год назад +26

      I don't see it as a positive if you arwa run badly. Villa went down. To compound things we got taken over by a fraudster from China. We were lucky that Grealish took us up and kept us there for two seasons. We have good owners now but the spending was poor, poor management and running of the club. Lucky we have Emery now. Now we can relax and let the real professionals do the job

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry Год назад +19

      We (Sunderland) are in such a much better position now than we were - but we really skirted utter disaster on the way. The right ownership is vital - and that doesn't have to mean super-rich either.

    • @nkenchington6575
      @nkenchington6575 Год назад

      should've gone

    • @khalid8185
      @khalid8185 Год назад +1

      People loose their jobs what you on. Relegation is bad.

  • @DJVm4GOD1
    @DJVm4GOD1 Год назад +259

    Burnley is another example where relegation can help a club, rather than put it under huge disadvantage. Sure, they got destroyed by Man City, but come on. It's Man City honestly. Burnley were stuck playing a certain way, as it helped them win matches. Now, they're got more about them, and could be ready for the step up. As I'd argue that bottom half of the PL is very beatable for some clubs in the top half of the Championship.

    • @Millennium3000
      @Millennium3000 Год назад +7

      And the championship clubs can also beat many top tier european teams too

    • @Mad_Intellect
      @Mad_Intellect Год назад +28

      @@Millennium3000 Top tier, LMAO no...stop with the hyperbole. They can beat mid to lower level Europa league teams smh.

    • @antmanandthecod6073
      @antmanandthecod6073 Год назад

      What a load of rubbish 🤣

    • @vlz.matthew
      @vlz.matthew Год назад +2

      Burnley's relegation doesn't help them at all lol being a yo-yo club is a terrible spot to be in, its easier to just be a mid table championship side

    • @kokonor2844
      @kokonor2844 Год назад

      Burnley is the worst club, they rarely buy new players so their squad looks the same all the time. And the most important, their playstyle is so boring.

  • @osheafoster7519
    @osheafoster7519 Год назад +403

    Leeds going from UCL Semis in 01/02 to being relegated in 03/04 is nuts

    • @lobaxx
      @lobaxx Год назад +65

      As we say in Sweden, “Up like the sun, down like a pancake”

    • @chevyjacob5678
      @chevyjacob5678 Год назад +9

      @@lobaxx no one cares

    • @FootkerSnooball
      @FootkerSnooball Год назад +3

      @osheafoster7519
      Because it didn't happen lol
      They got to CL SF in 2000/01 they just missed out on qualifying again for CL in that season (4th with only 3 qualifiers) and the following season the same (5th with only 4 qualifiers) then they had a relegation battle season n 2002/03 where they still had a chunk of their players at the start but were selling a lot during the season and they just survived that year but then were relegated the year after in 2004 and would've sold the last of their players that summer I.e AlanSmith to ManUtd, PaulRobinson to Spurs etc...

    • @b9l_onion758
      @b9l_onion758 Год назад +6

      ​@@lobaxx good saying

    • @hughg.rection8567
      @hughg.rection8567 Год назад +22

      @@chevyjacob5678 dude get a life

  • @mashu69
    @mashu69 Год назад +250

    Relegation also hurts for the large number of ordinary employees when they're made redundant by the club due to the deplorable effort and incompetence of the first team football squad

    • @followhim.8543
      @followhim.8543 Год назад +15

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    • @thomp7714
      @thomp7714 13 дней назад

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  • @DJVm4GOD1
    @DJVm4GOD1 Год назад +589

    While I get this, at the same time, relegation can help save a club that's just pushing along and doing the wrong business. If my club Newcastle didn't go down when we did, we would've still had certain poor players in the squad that needed shifted out. A year in the Championship also helped solidify us better under Rafa, and got his play style and such ready to go. Yes, finance wise, would've see a major drop off. But that relegation in effect, bettered us in the long term.

    • @AurioDK
      @AurioDK Год назад +40

      It will of course always be an economical downfall but not necessarily a disaster, depends on how well the club is run and whether it knows how sustainability works. Brentford wouldn´t f.ex. have taken a big hit if they went down due to their wage structure, sure, they would sports wise once again be stuck in the mud but financially they would be fine. So, you are absolutely right, it very much depends on the club in question.

    • @ricecrispyman1582
      @ricecrispyman1582 Год назад +45

      Relegation was literally the best thing that could've happened to Burnley.

    • @ironicvirus1496
      @ironicvirus1496 Год назад +20

      Same with Aston Villa, they needed a wake up call, and sure it took longer than the others but they got new owners and are progressing well

    • @thatracingguy5694
      @thatracingguy5694 Год назад +4

      Fulham under silva as well

    • @nichonr95
      @nichonr95 Год назад +17

      Also being bought by a nation who has laughable human rights helped

  • @Matthew-bu7fg
    @Matthew-bu7fg Год назад +46

    As Forest fans, part of the lure of promotion was "well if we go down first season back then we at least get the parachute payments for the following season" sad but true.

    • @tomw6947
      @tomw6947 Год назад +1

      Yeah but losing all your best talent and players is far more damaging.

    • @jakowako7157
      @jakowako7157 6 месяцев назад

      But,did they die?

  • @lwandomadikizela2213
    @lwandomadikizela2213 Год назад +147

    Relegation is what keeps most leagues engaging and the the financial repercussions it brings to a club should they suffer relegation. Clubs after relegation will either get straight back up within a season or two like Burnley and Sheffield United in that case or take years in the 2nd tier to get the their act right in the case of Leeds United and Aston Villa or never to be promoted ever again due to continued poor decisions in finances, player recruitment, club infrastructure and fan engagement like in the case of Sheffield Wednesday, Derby County and Portsmouth. It's really fun and cruel to see when top league survival is necessary to balance the books.

    • @nuraby_9228
      @nuraby_9228 Год назад +9

      RIP Oldham

    • @wrestler-kickboxer2524
      @wrestler-kickboxer2524 Год назад +18

      Bolton, Portsmouth, Bradford, Swindon and of course, the late Oldham 💀

    • @AlfieFenton
      @AlfieFenton Год назад +1

      villa was only there for 3 years, the same as sheffield utd

    • @mainangatia2039
      @mainangatia2039 Год назад +5

      There isn't a single human being who watches relegation fixtures. You're lying for no reason. We watch for the winning teams. Not the ones struggling to win and TV ratings prove this. Broadcasters don't sell relegation fixtures because they don't sell and what is sold is what is engaging. There is no reason for relegation. It doesn't make sense as a concept at all. Imagine if your business or employer was told they're going to have an arbitrary earnings cap that would be 50% less the previous year's earnings. You'd think it's stupid, wouldn't you? It's the same as relegation.

    • @Mnu103
      @Mnu103 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@mainangatia2039lmao I love the way you're saying there's no human being who won't watch that, there are some midtable clubs which actually play football and this is coming from a guy who supports a top 6 club, lemme guess you support Manchester city or something? Fake glory hunter

  • @CentaurMoe
    @CentaurMoe Год назад +16

    Another factor is the economy surrounding the clubs, When I was younger I used to work for a company that had a catering contract with Craven Cottage, when Fulham was relegated in 2013, a lot of ordinary working people lost paid work as a result at the club had to cut back on running costs.

  • @leobestbote4244
    @leobestbote4244 Год назад +224

    Wow these Tifo pieces are just what I need every single morning before I start work, thank you guys for these whenever you produce them, thank you so much
    I didn't know that a club getting relegated slashes their TV revenue by that much damn it makes sense why clubs celebrate relegation survival like it's winning a title, yess staying in the top flight is great and prestigious and all but the financial impact to dropping is really really devastating, l salute those club who bounce back immediately

    • @jubs4383
      @jubs4383 Год назад +10

      Its a unfortunate side effect of the Prem being as rich as it is. As soon as your out of it you lose signifigant money and relevance.

    • @Hamza-zu7pl
      @Hamza-zu7pl Год назад

      ​@@jubs4383 Yep true

    • @BhBc8f8
      @BhBc8f8 Год назад +4

      @@jubs4383 people want to watch quality players play agaisnt quality players. The first division has the most quality players in the country, it's only natural.

    • @rayantonioking
      @rayantonioking Год назад

      ​@Bhlack Bishop I agree 💯

    • @centurion8446
      @centurion8446 Год назад

      Also the reason why the Championship playoff is the most lucrative match in all football, arguably more lucrative then one with a real trophy at the end given the club changing wealth that potentially occurs (depending on how it's utilised)

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels Год назад +86

    I'm surprised you were able to talk about how damaging relegation is without mentioning Portsmouth but I assume that the extent of their administration means Pompey were quite an unusual example of a relegated club.
    Whilst we haven't even recovered to where we were in the '90s at the moment, I still believe the club is now in a healthy position.

    • @highnoon7097
      @highnoon7097 Год назад +8

      Portsmouth were screwed regardless of relegation. There's a very good book "waste of money" about shady financial dealings and mismanagement in football. Portsmouth feature. The situation was bleak even when they were in the prem

  • @johnnywilson3071
    @johnnywilson3071 Год назад +11

    Clubs with Traditionally strong academies are able to handle relegation better than other teams. Southampton was the prime example, got relegated from the Premier league, went into admin yet still managed to get back in 7 years thanks to their stacked academy (and getting a good owner to bail them out). Middlesbrough have been out for a while but seem poised to go up soon and they have a pretty strong academy as well.

  • @derrick1916-i7d
    @derrick1916-i7d Год назад +40

    Nicely done. I'm worrying about Wigan and Blackpool, who have both suffered in the previous years, and are now dropping to League 1. Wigan even had a problem this season with wages. I hope the best for their situations.

    • @Westhamsterdam
      @Westhamsterdam Год назад +1

      Wigan, Bolton, whoever, most clubs are massively in debt!

    • @highnoon7097
      @highnoon7097 Год назад +1

      Wigan have been slapped with another points deduction too so will probably lose more players

  • @OrhtejTheGreat
    @OrhtejTheGreat Год назад +13

    You mentioned the likes of Fulham and Norwich losing a lot of revenue in the 2019/20 and 2020/21 seasons respectively but there was something that we all know about that happened (but wasn’t mentioned) which made a massive contribution to that.

  • @lbridet
    @lbridet Год назад +22

    I hope Everton does not view Dyche as a 'relegation specialist'. A relegation specialist is an interim guy who comes in February and tries to save your club from the axe. Dyche has a project and a vision, he can do it for the right club, squeeze a good product out of low resources. But you need to give him time, a say in recruitment, multiple preseasons...

  • @billem16
    @billem16 Год назад +37

    This was awesome. I love watching the PL from USA and i love the relegation/promotion system but I am always interested to learn more about it. Make more like these pls

  • @nikotesla23
    @nikotesla23 Год назад +213

    Great video! Could you do a version on how much not being in the Champions League (or other European competitions) affects or benefits any given team?

    • @firmana.8618
      @firmana.8618 Год назад +1

      Straight to forward. It's Chelsea

    • @santiagolerda435
      @santiagolerda435 Год назад +1

      @@firmana.8618 or barcelona in the last 2 seasons

    • @corvusglaive5769
      @corvusglaive5769 Год назад

      I doubt this has that much of an impact. Arsenal have been out for years and yet it did little to damage their finances.

    • @MasterGordon5115
      @MasterGordon5115 9 месяцев назад

      @@santiagolerda435 Isn't Barca still playing in the UCL? apart from like this season

  • @lel_werewolf2692
    @lel_werewolf2692 Год назад +26

    Fun fact is Leicester will lose all their best players since they actually have decent players but they don’t have a structure at the club. The Maddison miss will hurt them so much. He will move to Newcastle and become an absolute beast in their midfield alongside Guimaraes and Joelinton. Also he will for the first time be able to play UCL

  • @kikiandjasmine
    @kikiandjasmine Год назад +14

    It's substantially worse in Spain if you get relegated. Some big names in Spanish football have been consigned to the wilderness of the Segunda Division for years. Espanyol may have some serious problems getting back to the Primera Liga when they are relegated.

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 Год назад +1

      I’m guessing there isn’t any parachute payments in Spain?

  • @CPFCJeffMangum
    @CPFCJeffMangum Год назад +9

    As an American who fell in love with the Prem BECAUSE of Leicester's title win, their relegation really hit hard. Up the Palace.

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 Год назад +25

    If Everton avoid relegation again then they would basically be immune to relegation at this point

    • @jimmyg5102
      @jimmyg5102 Год назад +4

      ​@Matty Kelly horse punchers of the year for the 10th year In a row for Newcastle

    • @TheGiantKillers
      @TheGiantKillers Год назад +7

      In fairness to Everton, they've only been in danger of relegation going into the last three games of the season six times since their promotion in 1954. That's 63 out of 69 campaigns, which only Arsenal can match. Yep, they're a terrible team at present but their overall consistency as a top flight side is actually incredible when you look at it, only four seasons missed ever, and they've produced title winning teams in seven different decades, which [ I think but I'm sure somebody will check] can only be matched by Liverpool and Manchester United

    • @guillermogallegos8477
      @guillermogallegos8477 9 месяцев назад

      We’ll see this year

    • @dkfjblilahd5595
      @dkfjblilahd5595 6 месяцев назад

      Well said

  • @davidneraas750
    @davidneraas750 Год назад +24

    The worst thing about relegation is that the championship is a very diffecult league to bounce back from and win.

  • @n00bma5ter69
    @n00bma5ter69 Год назад +8

    Don't forget that most clubs have relegation wage reductions for most players

  • @milokat179
    @milokat179 Год назад +19

    Can you make a video on Vice Versa, i.e how much will a club improve once they are promoted to PL and also how relegation affects other major leagues

  • @control2XS
    @control2XS Год назад +6

    4:08 in fairness, Leeds were relegated before parachute payments were a thing. We were already in financial free-fall, and then dropped out of the League losing a huge amount of our revenue with nothing in place to slow the financial crisis, sending us into administration.

    • @tomw6947
      @tomw6947 Год назад +2

      Alot of the financial rules and parachute payments came about because of what happened to Leeds, it showed how owners like Ridsdale put a club into such chaos and walked away free of any punishment or debt (as everything was under the clubs name)

  • @depekthegreat359
    @depekthegreat359 Год назад +7

    This is a harsh reality unfortunately for the teams that would be relegated from the English First Division football to the English Second Division football,good friends!!!🙏

  • @emt0072
    @emt0072 Год назад +10

    As a new fan of the sport, I found this very informative. I had no idea the financial impact was great.

    • @lilbaz8732
      @lilbaz8732 Год назад

      Look at it another way. Luton winning the championship playoff yesterday guaranteed them between £135m and £265m (tv money and parachute payments if they get relegated). Not bad for a one off game.

  • @rhodephorus7733
    @rhodephorus7733 Год назад +6

    imagine being so experienced at managing bottom 5 clubs that you are being looked at as a 'relegation specialist'.

  • @alexnowis2468
    @alexnowis2468 Год назад +12

    Fantastic video, thank you!
    Please can you do a Newcastle United specific video? Focusing on CL Qualification & what that means for their spending power given their current financial circumstances? % of wages to turnover etc 🙏🏻

  • @garymason7
    @garymason7 Год назад +7

    Parachute payments needs to stop. It blatantly is an unfair advantage. If a team is hurt so badly by being relegated then they should handle their finances better.

    • @sandeepakariyawasam5216
      @sandeepakariyawasam5216 Год назад

      They should be given a chance to make up for their mistakes

    • @YayaTourney
      @YayaTourney Год назад +4

      Without parachute payments no team in the bottom half could take the risk of substantial investment in the squad, and the gulf between the haves and have nots become unwatchably wide

    • @garymason7
      @garymason7 Год назад

      @@YayaTourney But isn't that still happening? It's just pushing the problem further down the league. The gulf is now in the Championship and down...

    • @YayaTourney
      @YayaTourney Год назад

      @@garymason7 50 clubs have played in the Premier League since its inception. That means ~40 clubs have benefited from this payment. It's difficult to argue that the Prem redistributing less money down the chain is better for the pyramid.

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 Год назад

      @@YayaTourneynot entirely true. Parachute payments only came in after Leeds got themselves into real trouble financially so several teams that haven’t been in the premier league since 2004, didn’t get that help (eg Wimbledon, Ipswich, Coventry, Oldham, Bradford etc). Parachute payments should be allowed but only for teams that have been able to stay up for at least one season. The yo-yo teams should have it

  • @Louisejames23
    @Louisejames23 Год назад +8

    I do think that if a club is doing terribly (hello Derby, Watford, Southampton etc) the fans would rather see them go down and perform better than a perpetual struggle in a higher league. This season I’m just grateful Chelsea aren’t in the end of season scrap, because given our terrible season we should be 🙈😬

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry Год назад +1

      Sunderland fans used to say that. Then we got relegated twice in two seasons. Took a while for that "see us perform better against weaker teams" bit to actually happen....

    • @mariadanielalavia8877
      @mariadanielalavia8877 Год назад

      @@MichaelGGarry also that common jobs and people who work at the club get fired immediately, maintainence staff, people working in publicity and human resources. u10 football coaches, etc, etc. their future even if they have an average wage is managed by how well the 11 players on the pitch perform.

  • @everydayrealist
    @everydayrealist 8 месяцев назад +3

    Super late to this video but the quality is incredible. The animations, information, formatting is immaculate. Fantastic work Tifo team!

  • @anthonycokoye
    @anthonycokoye Год назад +3

    Unless you are Norwich City, who have financial prudency on lock down, relegation can feel like the end of the world for most teams. I'd argue a 50% wage-to-revenue ratio is a better benchmark to strife for, though.

  • @MrDboydeluxe
    @MrDboydeluxe Год назад +2

    As a Leicester fan it’s been a disaster of a year! I keep going back to I guess three years ago when they signed Soumare, Daka and another scrub I can’t remember the name, espn and every other outlet had them in the top 5 of any team in any league for that transfer window, bust, bust and bust, impossible to recover from that, eventually took its toll.

  • @harper-leightonscott4566
    @harper-leightonscott4566 Год назад +40

    I love how relegations strongest supporters are from fans that will probably never experience the drop.

    • @bigfudge2031
      @bigfudge2031 Год назад +18

      People used to say that about Everton, yet here they are 2 seasons in a row fighting relegation on the last day of the season.

    • @IVIRnathanreilly
      @IVIRnathanreilly Год назад +9

      People also tend to play football. It isn't just about the team you support.
      Also, what alternative do you propose?

    • @omaralkayal7598
      @omaralkayal7598 Год назад +1

      perhaps because they hate those certain clubs

    • @laoch5658
      @laoch5658 Год назад +5

      football is a meritocracy. you earn it unlike American sports were theres a new champion every year and no risk for poor performing teams.. in America the worst team gets rewarded with draft picks

    • @Ovenman940
      @Ovenman940 Год назад +2

      Every club in the top flight has been relegated

  • @SteveWalton-z7w
    @SteveWalton-z7w Год назад +1

    One major inaccuracy in this regarding relegation is that away fans will see an increase in their ticket prices not a decrease as would be expected due to the cap at 30.00, surely if the FA actually cared about the fans as they claim then an element of the parachute payment should used to keep this in place

  • @swaggingcone
    @swaggingcone Год назад +3

    im a United fan, but ive always loves Leicester, and i almost cried watching them get relegated

  • @eavyeavy2864
    @eavyeavy2864 Год назад +2

    If teams are coming down from the Premier League, they might get £43m from the first year parachute alone,” Chris Winn of the University Campus of Football Business says. “That’s usually more than all non-parachute recipients will generate across all their revenue streams in a season.

  • @TheYoutubeUser69
    @TheYoutubeUser69 7 месяцев назад +3

    That's why football is king. American sports have no stakes

    • @DavidN16792
      @DavidN16792 6 месяцев назад

      because watching the same 2 teams dominate a league is entertaining? 😂

  • @centurion8446
    @centurion8446 Год назад +1

    This is why I can understand why some clubs like Norwich would do the yo-yo club thing, like Bournemouth more or less this season, just don't spend too much as you get up, pocket a lot of the 100 million, and even keeping 50 million of that instead of going for players means they can be a financially healthy Championship club who can use that money to flesh out good facilities and training grounds etc and keep out of debt. I would say Bradford was the worst example of throwing too much money and debt at trying to stay in the EPL
    Bournemouth seem to have done very well through staying up without too much outlay while Nottingham Forest would have been in trouble had they not survived given how much they spent

  • @d3po607
    @d3po607 Год назад +3

    Still need a video on relegation release clauses and where to look them up

  • @benyoung4305
    @benyoung4305 Год назад +2

    Ive never heard anyone except from this video use the term "doing a Leeds". Now, us in the know have often used the term "pulling a Ridsdale". Which is a reference to the guy who caused the problems at Leeds (amongst other clubs he also chairmanned).

    • @lilbaz8732
      @lilbaz8732 Год назад +1

      Heard the term used quite often.

  • @mrlogic7196
    @mrlogic7196 Год назад +4

    COME ON YOU HATTERS !!!

  • @trip2themoon
    @trip2themoon Год назад +1

    Parachute payments pretty much ensure the same teams keep coming up and down. Millwall as an example came their closest to a play off spot in years but ultimately fell short against the teams still receiving huge amounts of money from the Premiership's TV deals.

  • @bongoseakhoa5092
    @bongoseakhoa5092 Год назад +3

    Just a note from a data scientist, I noticed you used the average a lot in the video the average is okay if you have normal distributed data if the data is skew then the median may be better at getting your point across. The numbers may not be as dramatic but it will convey information more accurately.

  • @benmaynard6077
    @benmaynard6077 Год назад +2

    Can you please do a video explaining the benefits of promotion and all the logistics that go with it?

  • @c4me540
    @c4me540 Год назад +6

    Funny enough, leeds are relegated again smh

  • @mhansen9255
    @mhansen9255 Год назад +2

    LOVE these relaxing and educational videos from Tifo Football…
    BIG LOVE FROM DENMARK ❤️🇩🇰

  • @MasterControl-MCP
    @MasterControl-MCP Год назад +3

    Pompey fan here.
    Yep. 🤦‍♂️

    • @Liam021
      @Liam021 Год назад

      PUP, they’ll be battering scum soon enough!!

    • @Colin_Fasoli
      @Colin_Fasoli Год назад +1

      your owner caused your problems, not relegation

    • @MasterControl-MCP
      @MasterControl-MCP Год назад +1

      @@Colin_Fasoli true in part, but we could have paid the debt caused by the owner of we’d stayed in the Prem, he’s left by the time we were relegated.

  • @rockstar78970
    @rockstar78970 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's insane that Leeds United played Champions League in 2000/01 reaching quarter-finals and then sold almost all players in next 2 seasons and got relegated in 2004, that's why they say "doing a Leeds"

  • @britishmick
    @britishmick Год назад +3

    As a Villa fan I’d take Vardy on a year contract without hesitation, he’s exactly what we need and the fact he’s 36 means nothing as there’s enough running in the team already, we just need a clinical finisher, which he is!.

    • @bluefoxsam
      @bluefoxsam Год назад +1

      He won’t go to another English club! Especially not a small club like villa 😂

    • @mexinerdentartaiment
      @mexinerdentartaiment Год назад

      Isn’t he injury plagued doe? Honestly think Villa could do better

  • @procrastinatingpuma
    @procrastinatingpuma Год назад +2

    There is a reason why Pro/Rel Leagues are top heavy, it's simply too risky to invest in a club that could start hemorrhaging money after one bad year.

  • @princem5155
    @princem5155 Год назад +7

    It’s hard to come back from it

    • @harper-leightonscott4566
      @harper-leightonscott4566 Год назад +1

      ​@The LIM Report the teams who can't maintain a place in the prem for a few years at a time?

    • @indiekiddrugpatrol3117
      @indiekiddrugpatrol3117 Год назад

      No it's not these days with parachute payments it's pretty easy to bounce back as long as u look after the books unfortunately

  • @mrstefon_8954
    @mrstefon_8954 Год назад

    Do you know how long I’ve yearned for TIFO to go back too these animated videos…..it’s the whole reason why I subscribed.

  • @Kevin-yz2xb
    @Kevin-yz2xb Год назад +4

    As a child i really hate MLS league format where no relegation and favouring traditional promotion-relegation system. But as i grow up, i started to realize that no relegation system is becoming much more make sense in financial and stability of the club

  • @aidanlynn
    @aidanlynn Год назад +2

    All empires fall, PL clubs receiving hundreds of millions every season, spending it on dud players and being relegated is the kinda wake up call they need to get their act together.

  • @LeedsJimbo82
    @LeedsJimbo82 Год назад +3

    Everton could be in big trouble but it won’t be this season they’ll win on Sunday and Leeds & Leicester will drop. I can only see another meltdown for my club due to miss management (again)! It could be tough for Everton next season too. Especially if a points deduction comes in to play.

    • @Vakator-29
      @Vakator-29 Год назад

      They will lose 3-1, Leicester will win 2-1, leeds won't get a chance

    • @they1373
      @they1373 Год назад

      You say that but . . . . . . . . . . . . .

  • @simokojamesphiri7924
    @simokojamesphiri7924 Год назад +1

    At this point, isn't Sam Allardyce just a reputation merchant? His last 2 relegation jobs haven't been successful and Leeds look like they are about to make it 3 straight duds. It's a shame that Leeds made such a U-turn in their approach especially because Ralph Hussenhutl was there to be picked up, someone who has actual experience with relegation dogfights but also someone who can work with a basic squad to elevate their floor. I hope Leeds consider hiring Hussenhutl should they go down, or stay up. I think that much like Bielsa, he'd be a big hit with the added benefit of not being as difficult to work with and a good sense of how to use the loan market to build a squad.

  • @davidhoward5392
    @davidhoward5392 Год назад +3

    The fact that Everton and Leeds are back in exactly the same position as last year shows they have learnt nothing, they both deserve to go down, but expect Everton to survive..,

  • @digzsolutions
    @digzsolutions Год назад +1

    Reminds me of Bolton, Blackburn, and Portsmouth

  • @laoatar
    @laoatar Год назад +3

    The harsh reality of parachute payments making it incredibly hard for the rest of championship clubs to get promoted

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry Год назад +1

      We (Sunderland) managed to still get parachute payments in League 1 - and still not get promoted until after they had ran out! :D

  • @KrompirProdukcije
    @KrompirProdukcije Год назад +2

    Great video, you should make a video about Partizan Belgrade, before was amazing, always first or second even once in the final of the UCL. They just finished 4th. The board is awful just like the current players.

  • @XTheLolX301
    @XTheLolX301 Год назад +5

    How Eveeton has money for new stadium and signings fighting relegation every season?

    • @albicalderbank
      @albicalderbank Год назад +1

      “Fighting relegation every season” 😂 they’ve only been in a relegation fight this season and last season. It’s sad that nowadays people just don’t watch football and make stupid comments like these 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @dundabird3203
    @dundabird3203 Год назад +1

    Just look at Sheffield Wednesday, the last club to be relegated without parachute payments. They frequently competed for silverware in the 90's, and are historically one of Englands most successful clubs. Now its been over 20 years wince they were in the premier league at all.

    • @henners1k92
      @henners1k92 Год назад

      I think the answer is to abolish parachute payments, so as to prevent this kind of unfairness (which affects all clubs not in receipt of those payments)?

  • @OchitheWarloch
    @OchitheWarloch Год назад +1

    As a Fulham fan who was living abroad when we got relegated back in 13/14 I was gutted I wasn't able to watch matches. Why doesn't the championship televise all matches? Surely they'd be able to bring in more money even if it meant some decrease in match day revenue?

    • @MrShaneHardy
      @MrShaneHardy Год назад

      They didn't have anything at the time but I'm fairly certain the EFL do now have a streaming service where you can buy a season ticket to watch your own club

  • @wrenches3
    @wrenches3 Год назад +1

    Do a video on the financial impact on getting promoted/ relegated. Or of making the champions/Europa league

  • @MrMArsenal
    @MrMArsenal 8 месяцев назад +1

    I never understand why they don't show the championship on TV at 3pm! It'll create revenue for the clubs so they'll be more financially sound! If they're not going to show the premier league teams at 3pm, why not have the championship on the TV?

  • @samjga
    @samjga Год назад +1

    Oh no! We're still going to receive the best part of £50 million in a league where everyone else gets about £8million in TV revenue (TV plus Solidarity). The struggle is so hard. Although I certainly feel for the employees who get made redundant, if you're at exec level of a PL club and you don't have a contingency plan for relegation when EVERY YEAR 3 teams MUST go down your head is well and truly buried in the sand. There's a reason why certain clubs are constantly yoyo-ing and the phrase starts with a "P" and ends in "arachute payments". If you can't get promoted after 3 years of parachute payments you deserve to sink down the pyramid

  • @pixelpotato4874
    @pixelpotato4874 Год назад +1

    Leicester achieved the unthinkable in 2015/2016 by winning the EPL Trophy,and I believe Tottenham can achieve the unthinkable in 2023/2024 also...by dropping down to the Championship

  • @FootballsGreatest
    @FootballsGreatest Год назад +1

    super nice video,maybe you guys can do one with the reverse, what happens with a club when is promoted how is that impacting their finances, cheers!

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Год назад +1

    Very informative video. Keep up the good work.

  • @alaskanmalamute101
    @alaskanmalamute101 Год назад +1

    They really need to massively increase the championship teams TV revenue rather than parachute payments.
    Parachute payments give a handful of championship teams an unfair advantage which the rest can't compete with because of FFP..
    Clubs received £233m in parachute payments in the 2020-21 season, an average of £33m per club.
    The average revenue of clubs without parachute payments was £20m
    Clubs receiving parachute payments generated an average points gap of +16 in 2020-21
    The average points gap over the five seasons, for clubs in receipt of parachute payments, was +8.6
    Clubs that have parachute payments are far less likely to get relegated from the Championship than those that do not have them
    The Premier League is clearly not contributing enough to the league system..it's by far the richest League in the world the least they could be doing is putting substantial amount of money down the pyramid and still been better off than any other top tier League.
    It should be considered a pension plan in football terms.
    Instead of giving 250m in parachute payments I think the premier League should just be bumping up TV revenue for the championship but by 500m so each team receives on avg 20m more on top of the 5-6m.
    I think this would make competition better in the long term and start to reduce the massive gap between premier League and championship.
    Maybe even put it in the TV revenue rights that broadcasters have to pay 20% of premier League revenue to the championship.

  • @xAA7
    @xAA7 Год назад +1

    Seeing this makes me happy Everton stayed up. Would not want Liverpool's rival to spiral into the depths of financial instability.

  • @newspaperface
    @newspaperface Год назад +2

    I never heard about them parachute payments before and before you hinted at the unfairness of it i thought the same

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 Год назад

      It’s mainly unfair with regards to teams that have yo-yoed between the leagues . Those guys barely spend in the premier league, go down and therefore can then spend more than the Championship teams due to ffp not causing them issues.

  • @CardinalThumb
    @CardinalThumb 10 месяцев назад

    Great video! Also, nice work with the Partridge easter egg on the Norwich City badge.

  • @bertko1710
    @bertko1710 Год назад +2

    Maybe next video can be "the reality of promotion"

  • @Channy132
    @Channy132 Год назад +1

    Thanks, this video makes me feel better x
    - Leeds Fan

  • @khunsakiani3288
    @khunsakiani3288 Год назад

    You explain each thing very perfectly

  • @zachstolpa6521
    @zachstolpa6521 Год назад

    Keep up this content on the business side of football!

  • @benjaminlampp1993
    @benjaminlampp1993 Год назад

    Maybe a good standardized financial rule should be that every team has to include relegation clauses in their wage contracts that state player wages will go down by x% if the team is relegated. If it is standardized, no clubs can lure players away by saying they won't have a relegation clause. This would make sure clubs won't have massive wages to pay after they have significant losses in revenue. At the end of the day, a club gets relegated due to low player and/or manager performance, so their wages should go down as a result.

    • @Stephen_Platt
      @Stephen_Platt Год назад

      Easier said than done. Whilst I agree with the idea in theory, there’d have to be a minimum required clause or teams would just offer a 0.1% pay cut. But then if you did set a minimum %age it would likely further inflate wages as players want their salary to still be good in the event of relegation.

  • @LordHeath1972
    @LordHeath1972 14 дней назад

    Parachute payments are unfair. Scrap them. That would give teams a bigger incentive to stay in the Premier League. Why should they have a financial advantage for being relegated? And I say that as a fan of a club that did get relegated last season.

  • @AotearoaChef
    @AotearoaChef Год назад

    Portsmouth is another, we used to a prem club in 2006/7 and got all the way to 2nd league. Be great to see them in championship or prem again. I think at best we would be a championship club at best these days

  • @mandyd473
    @mandyd473 Год назад

    Feel like Southampton are far better suited than any other team to bounce straight back. Small squad with no journeyman on high wages (Walcotts contract is expiring). Players that will be marketable to top teams (JWP, Lavia) are all on long contracts and will command hefty fees. Other players such as Tella, Che Adams, Armstrong etc are proven at that level. Find it hard to see how a club like Everton that are crippled by their previous financial mismanagement are going to cope or if there will be many takers for some of Leicesters OAPs that are on massive wages.

  • @wmyates17
    @wmyates17 Год назад

    Parachute payments are creating a huge imbalance in the championship. When non-relegated clubs are in financial trouble, they’re told to sell players to make money by the EFL, and it should be the same for the relegated clubs.

    • @zachstolpa6521
      @zachstolpa6521 Год назад

      Are you just wanting the championship and lower leagues to get more of the revenue the premier league gets? Unless you’re just outright furious about how much money the premier league brings in lol

  • @subboid
    @subboid Год назад +1

    Nottingham took a lot flak for their ballsy strategy but it seems to have paid off. Imo Everton deserve to go down but looks like they’ll scrap by

  • @tmac3444
    @tmac3444 Год назад +2

    I think Leeds will be better prepared for relegation this time especially since back in 2004 there were no parachute payments.

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 Год назад +1

      You say that, some of their apparent relegation release clauses for some of their players are very bad. Eg Rodrigo apparently has a release clause of just £5 million. They bought him for £27 mill! Not to mention some of weirdness Radrizzani has been doing with apparently including elland road as collateral when he was making a bid to buy Sampdoria. Thankfully looks like he’s out after selling to the 49ers but they’re only going to come back up if they get the right manager in. Team has been very rudderless and panicky since sacking Bielsa. Out of the 3 relegated clubs, it’s actually Southampton that right now are best placed to go straight back up. There’s also a very likely scenario of none of the teams going straight back up.

    • @tmac3444
      @tmac3444 Год назад +1

      The handling or Rodrigo does look bad but this season has been his best ever season for Leeds compared to the two previous seasons if we were to give him a contract extension after the first two I think quite a few would of said he wasn’t deserving. With one year left on his contract now what we will be looking at? I’m just happy that we’re not looking as bad as last time we had the second lowest wage bill in the prem last season and now there’s apparently clauses in contracts protecting the clubs finances. Idk who’s going up best thing about the championship is it’s a free fir all it’s anyone’s game and I’ve more of a chance of getting away tickets. Every silver lining

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 Год назад +1

      @@tmac3444 yeah plus you got decent money for both Raphinha and Phillips. Think financially you're sound. It's really fixing that defence as tbh it's gotten worse year on year and who the starting keeper should be. Needs to be the right manager as well

  • @StrawCurrent
    @StrawCurrent Год назад +1

    Very good explanation and breakdown from top to bottom 💯👏🏽

    • @5minutemovies977
      @5minutemovies977 Год назад

      Your comment sounds like a pun considering the topic of the video :D

  • @bytownbylaw
    @bytownbylaw Месяц назад

    How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Drop

  • @Leeds1919LUFC
    @Leeds1919LUFC Год назад

    As a Leeds fan, it annoys me how much Everton gets away with it. Can't see them making the same mistake 3 times in a row next season.

  • @AbdulArhamRashdi
    @AbdulArhamRashdi Год назад

    Very informative video keep up the goog work

  • @humor1095
    @humor1095 Год назад

    Mitro Sayed with Fulham when they got relegated.. loyalty 101%👏👏👏

  • @scpjack7856
    @scpjack7856 Год назад

    The Everton of now could be the Leeds of 20 years ago if they go down on Sunday. A massive, historic club getting relegated while spending for Europe, and the ensuing financial crisis leading to a 20 year absence from the top flight.

    • @they1373
      @they1373 Год назад

      What club is not 'historic' ? or 'massive' in the eyes of people who know them.

    • @bigfudge2031
      @bigfudge2031 Год назад

      They had a warning last year and didn't change, they honestly deserve to go down.

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese Год назад +2

    Will the TV revenue for Championship clubs change significantly with the new TV deal they struck recently together with League 1 and League 2? That maybe should have been covered in this video.

    • @lilbaz8732
      @lilbaz8732 Год назад +1

      The efl are currently in negotiations with the prem about the distribution of tv revenue and spending controls. The efl want the parachute payments scrapped and some extra money.
      Tifo will probably wait to see what the outcome is before doing a vid.

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 Год назад

      It’s still going to be smaller than what premier league clubs will earn tv revenue wise. As the video said, championship tv revenue is £100 million lower than what the premier league is. It won’t be a massive increase where it’s significantly closer and if it was, it would essentially create a premier league 2 and the vast difference in tv revenue would then be between the championship and league one.

  • @user-np3tq4nf1t
    @user-np3tq4nf1t Год назад +1

    If Chelsea got relegated this season (17th in form since January) surely they'd be facing administration.

  • @Jack-sq6xb
    @Jack-sq6xb Год назад +1

    This is why a league like MLS won't implement relegation, it risks massive losses in a league where teams cost hundreds of millions of dollars up front and if a team gets relegated it will massively damage a sport that's growing in the us

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 Год назад

      Plus most US fans of sport don’t get the idea of relegation given how the nfl, nba etc work. Had they started the mls as a pyramid idea eg making 2 divisions instead of 1, they might have been able to do it and then the North American league teams would be able to join in tier 3/4 or whatever.

  • @inamafridi8290
    @inamafridi8290 Год назад

    brilliant and fantastic video ❤❤❤keep it up

  • @trbd
    @trbd Год назад +1

    Well now the prospect of promotion to premier leaguse soubds scary too. I heard luton town have to invest in better stadium to get it up to premier league standard, now imagine how hard it'll hit them if they don't stay

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 Год назад

      They don’t have to change much plus they’re already have plans in motion to move to a new stadium (original planning permission was obtained in 2019 with a view to moving into it by 2026 regardless of whether they would be in the premier league or not) . Also they didn’t spend millions to get promoted. If you look at their net spend, they’ll be fine even if they go straight back down.

  • @muhammedgamal5871
    @muhammedgamal5871 Год назад

    Great one and in time as usual