Great subject for a video Raph and the year by year format is very effective. As you say, Marvel was very good at recycling names and characters, or variations thereof; for example, Dr. Droom from Amazing Fantasy was reworked into Dr. Strange while Droom himself was renamed Dr. Druid for his reintroduction into the Marvel Universe in Weird Wonder Tales #19 in 1976. Not Brand Ecch is a great showcase for Marie Severin's artistic talents. She is so underappreciated today. Colourist (EC's main colourist in fact), penciller, inker, cover artist, but for me, her skills in caricature really stand out. Also, the title highlights a time when Marvel could laugh at itself. But with Marvel now being little more than a test bed for movie and streaming series concepts, that self-mockery has well and truly left. I have a few Millie and related comics myself and, while not actively collecting these titles, I won't pass them up if I find them in decent condition and for a decent price. And they're still fun to read if you just go with the flow and accept the unsophisticated, more corny humour of that era.
I've recently developed a much higher appreciation for humor comic books, where before I would totally ignore them. There's a charm to these older books for sure! I do regret passing up on a lot of Millie issues over the years and now they are much harder to find and more expensive. Thanks for all the insights of Marie Severin!
I've said it before but this is worth repeating: for a young man like yourself, your comic book knowledge and collection is very, very impressive. You should be proud. Keep up the great content and I'll keep watching them.
I was initially hesitant on making a 1960s Marvel video as I didn't feel like I had enough good examples. It took a while to figure out how to best go about it, but I think it worked out at the end. Thanks for the kind words!
Nice Comic book history lesson. While surfing the net for comic book cover images I did see an interesting cover, Modeling with Millie #54 featuring a Beatles like band with Millie dancing in Go-Go style, which does seem to reflect/capture the Pop Culture youth of the mid 1960's and early 1970's. DC's Batman 222 does have the Beatles on the cover, with Batman and Robin trying to decipher from a record album which one of the "fab four" is about to be deceased. This was kind of based on a true story. People believed that Paul McCarthy was deceased (because he had not appeared in public for some time). Some fanatical Beatle fans believed clues to his death could be found on the album cover (I think it was the Sgt. Pepper album) or by playing the album backwards. He eventually did appear in public to dispel the rumors (which had gotten out of hand).
There are quite a few other comic books that featured cover or inside appearances of the Beatles (Strange Tales 130 comes to mind) and they do command a premium over issues surrounding them. Would love to have a copy of that Modeling with Millie #54 - such a great cover. Thanks for the insights!
Another great episode, loved it! No, you’re not the only one who collects some of those obscure titles. I love thé Marvel romance/humor and western titles during the 60’s, from right before the release of FF #1 through the 15 cent cover price era. There are a ton of those issues which you rarely see, even on EBay, in ANY grade, let alone high grade. Takes a lot of patience but it’s fun.
There's something to be said about coming across comic books you've never seen before, especially older comic books. When I purchased a bunch of those Millie the Models a number of years ago, I passed on the ones that were in lesser grade - and I totally regret it, because I've never come across them again. Of course they were gone the next time I was there!
Good Evening Raph A great showas always, I don't thonk you would call any of these titles obscure, we had many of The Millie Titles and The Chillis, And The Rawhide kid ruled the range, not to mention the Strange Tales, Tales of Suspense, Tales of Suspense, these were great days Lckily I was born at the beginning of the Silver Age and by the time I had grown some I was right in the midst of these beauties. I never gave it much thought as to how the arrived in Australia but they did. I got my first exposure to Marvel comics at the barbers , I read em all. Kirby, Heck, Trimpe, Ayers, Lieber, Colan and Lee I soon learnt those names. Does anybody still love the Forbush Man? Great work Cheers Al Thegoldkeyfourcolorkidownunda.
@alancarr7718 Hello Al! I would have loved to have seen what the newsstand and spinner racks looked like back in the day. I'm glad you experienced seeing some of these fine books first hand. Thank you for keeping the conversation going!
Thanks Brian! A lot of the more obscure stuff I've picked up over the years, but when I started collecting more seriously in the later 1980s and early 1990s, the 1960s stuff was getting expensive. The major keys have always been expensive, but back then they felt like they were within reach. Not so much anymore!
That cover of Groovy #3 is, well, really groovy. I've never seen that issue before. I'll have to see if I can track one down. Thanks again for another fun video!
The humour is a bit...dated. I do like the the graphics/artwork though. I had a chance to buy a #2 last year but it was something like $50 for a mid grade copy which was a bit too much for me.
At the end of the day, as much as I love 1970s Marvel, the 1960s will be the gold standard for Marvel comic books. In some ways, by being limited to 8 titles, I think they were really able to focus better and create a wonderful super-hero universe.
Great video Raph! Appreciate all the information given. As someone starting to collect some of those western titles from this era, this video helps a lot. 👏👏👏
Silver Age Marvel Westerns! You'll have to keep me posted on how your adventure goes. I don't actively search for them, but I do buy them an opportunity comes up. Just from my limited experience, I suspect Kid Colt will present you the biggest challenge out of the three.
The monster books are my favorites, especially the ones with outrageous names. They have always been hard to find and are now expensive in any grade unfortunately.
Hey Raph! Yeah, I always viewed the Fantastic Four as kinda my guides to the Marvel Universe when I was an early teen reader. I didn't discover that comic shops existed until I was 14, and that was my first exposure to the Lee/Kirby FF issues. Prior to comic shops, all my comics came from Walgreens and department store spinner racks. This was a fun retrospective.
I remember the first time I walked into a true comic book store and I was blown away. It was the first time I had seen several thousands of well organized back issues and more expensive 'wall books' on display. I still remember seeing a Journey into Mystery #83 in a shiny bag on the wall. I think it was priced at $400, which seemed like an insane amount of money back then. I was content to buy my Alpha Flight #1.
@@raph-retro-comics - I totally get that! Back in the early 80s, I used to see Romita issues of Silver Age ASM going for like $5-$6 bucks a pop, and I used to think, "Damn, that is a LOT of money for one comicbook! LOLOL!!
Ralph's ADULT retro ... the YT channel that respects your intelligence! I'm with you on some of those prototype labels being very flimsy other than name. I do love a Swamp Thing proto though ... Supernatural Thrillers 1, Phantom Stranger 14 and HOM 195. I have a copy of that Amazing Fantasy Ditko cover reprint i bought off Paul Gambaccini... Somebody should do a lengthy interview with him, he had letters published in those Silver Age Marvel's, has been a lifelong fan of Comics... I don't think there's anything on him talking comics other than a couple of bit's on that Jonathan Ross Ditko doc Anyhoo... Another fun and thoughtful instalment. 🧛
Don't forget about The Heap! I need to do a bit more reading and research into that character. I wish there were more celebrities talking about their love of comic books! Funny how these characters are so popular now in the mainstream, but it really doesn't seem like the popularity has transferred much into comic books themselves.
@MetalBum You're very welcome! This is one of my favorite periods of comic books for Marvel. Amazing what they were able to create in such a short period of time.
I cannot decide if you are full of knowledge of comic book history or you have to do a ton of research before each video. Either way, I always enjoy and learn something new from each video.
A bit of both! I know a good amount about comic books, but I do have to spend some time to make sure what I know/remember is correct, as well as get more details. I do spend a lot of time watching other comic channels and listening to podcasts for inspiration!
I don't mind either way either. There's more fun information coming from this channel than almost every other, as so many focus on speculation and values rather than on history and quirky collecting choices.
Good job... I giggle at the pronunciation of "comicbook" that you and also Swagglehouse uses. Sounds like you are saying comma-book. LOL! Still a gr8 post though. Keep it up. 💯
The 4 issue Bronze Age series Beware The Cat was confusing for me as her costume was very similar to Hellcat's, but they are different characters. I think that Cat would later become Tigra. Interesting to think that Patsy Walker would pre-date many well known Marvel Super-heroes!
I love these old comics so much! When I saw your copy of Patsy Walker, I recalled that I recently found out a fun fact about one of her issues, when I was shopping for an Old Marvel Monster comic. There is a YT channel called; "MONComics". He loves Man-Thing and old Atlas/Marvel monsters. I decided to buy and send him an issue and wanted to find him one he didn't have, and also one that had a "cool factor" to it (Like the first Hulk Monster, or maybe an issue right before Thor/Iron Man/or Ant Man appeared). What I wound up buying him was *Journey into Mystery issue #69.* This comic (Along with Patsy Walker) of June 1961, were the *Very First two books that were "Branded Marvel Comics"* (the little MC in the rectangle on the cover made it's 1st appearance on these two issues). I thought it was pretty cool! 😁 Another great video brother. Keep on keepin' one!
I'm a big fan of Brandon and his channel! We have a lot of common collector tastes and it's been great watching him grow as a serious comic book collector. He's a great part of the YT comic book community. That's a great tidbit of information about the Journey Into Mystery/Patsy Walker comic! These early Marvel books are tough to track down. Keep workin' on those Conans!
@@raph-retro-comics Thank you RRC! I am 99% done getting all the Conan's already (including the 1930's Weird Tales issues). Had to start collecting BM as well. 😁 Love the old Monster books as well... when I was shopping for Brandon's copy, I was calculating if I could buy all the old Marvel Monsters myself. It is hard fighting off the addiction of collecting. 😅
@@SonOfCrom-1932 Indeed, fighting off the urge to buy comic books is difficult. I feel these days it's even more difficult as there are so many different options to find books that you like.
@@raph-retro-comics Agree 100%. I am going to have to put my foot down hard on my wallet though... I have spent over 10K on completing my Conan collection in the last 6 weeks.... And, I do want to retire someday before I am 100 years old.😆 So I best slow down, or I know I could be sorry later (though I will still have joy with the comics I bought). ☺
Help me out. I remember a comic that the cover story was” I Am X, The Unknown. But another story included a telepathic with a bald head who fooled alien invaders into not taking over Earth using a stream shovel and thought transference. Was that a prototype of Professor X? I've wondered about this for half a century. Anyone?
The comic book you seek is Amazing Adventures #4! You can find more info about the issue here: www.comics.org/issue/16445/ The character you're thinking of is arguably Marvel's first true super-hero of the Silver Age, and that would be Dr. Droom, who would later be re-named as Dr. Druid. The story is the last one in this issue. comics.org is your best friend for comic book research!
I've always loved the "non-superhero" Silver Age comics by DC & Marvel. The war, horror, western, humor, romance & oddball titles are a cool window into a vastly overlooked world of comics. I have numerous high-grade copies of titles like Jerry Lewis, Bob Hope, Dobie Gillis, and Binky (many featuring the great Bob Oksner). Comics like these and many that you mentioned are so much harder to find than superhero titles.The graded copy of Chili #1 you have is awesome... along with the Millie, Kathy, Rawhide Kid and Groovy issues! In another video you showed Laurel & Hardy #1 by DC from 1972. I also have a great copy of that, a truly obscure one-off title! I enjoy your videos!
That Laurel & Hardy #1 really is a unique comic book from DC at that time. I'm glad there are other collectors out there like yourself that look for these hard to find oddball titles - they are so much fun, and truly overlooked! When you start to included other publishers from that time, it's mind-boggling to think about what's out there.
There appears to be a lot of similarities, and I'm sure Mr. Kirby still had a lot of stories in his head for Challengers when he started on Fantastic Four. I haven't read Kirby's Challengers run, but it's great idea to do some comparisons. A potential future episode!
Their limit of 8 titles with Independent News started around 1957 when they lost their previous distributor. It appears they started to 'test' this 8 title limit around 1964 or so, as Marvel was having a lot more success at this time. They slowly started to publish more titles, until 1968 when they had a new distribution agreement with Cadence where their title count exploded.
I must have bought my own Mad about Millie #1 about 30 years ago, and I don't think I've seen another in the wild since then. I'll see Captain Savage #1s, but usually not in nice shape.
Great subject for a video Raph and the year by year format is very effective. As you say, Marvel was very good at recycling names and characters, or variations thereof; for example, Dr. Droom from Amazing Fantasy was reworked into Dr. Strange while Droom himself was renamed Dr. Druid for his reintroduction into the Marvel Universe in Weird Wonder Tales #19 in 1976.
Not Brand Ecch is a great showcase for Marie Severin's artistic talents. She is so underappreciated today. Colourist (EC's main colourist in fact), penciller, inker, cover artist, but for me, her skills in caricature really stand out. Also, the title highlights a time when Marvel could laugh at itself. But with Marvel now being little more than a test bed for movie and streaming series concepts, that self-mockery has well and truly left.
I have a few Millie and related comics myself and, while not actively collecting these titles, I won't pass them up if I find them in decent condition and for a decent price. And they're still fun to read if you just go with the flow and accept the unsophisticated, more corny humour of that era.
I've recently developed a much higher appreciation for humor comic books, where before I would totally ignore them. There's a charm to these older books for sure!
I do regret passing up on a lot of Millie issues over the years and now they are much harder to find and more expensive. Thanks for all the insights of Marie Severin!
Awesome show. I love seeing pre-superhero work from Jack Kirby. This show was informative and inspiring. Thank you for doing this.⭐️
You're very welcome! I love a lot of the pre-hero monster stuff. There's definitely a special charm to them!
I've said it before but this is worth repeating: for a young man like yourself, your comic book knowledge and collection is very, very impressive. You should be proud. Keep up the great content and I'll keep watching them.
I was initially hesitant on making a 1960s Marvel video as I didn't feel like I had enough good examples. It took a while to figure out how to best go about it, but I think it worked out at the end. Thanks for the kind words!
Nice Comic book history lesson. While surfing the net for comic book cover images I did see an interesting cover, Modeling with Millie #54 featuring a Beatles like band with Millie dancing in Go-Go style, which does seem to reflect/capture the Pop Culture youth of the mid 1960's and early 1970's.
DC's Batman 222 does have the Beatles on the cover, with Batman and Robin trying to decipher from a record album which one of the "fab four" is about to be deceased. This was kind of based on a true story. People believed that Paul McCarthy was deceased (because he had not appeared in public for some time). Some fanatical Beatle fans believed clues to his death could be found on the album cover (I think it was the Sgt. Pepper album) or by playing the album backwards. He eventually did appear in public to dispel the rumors (which had gotten out of hand).
There are quite a few other comic books that featured cover or inside appearances of the Beatles (Strange Tales 130 comes to mind) and they do command a premium over issues surrounding them. Would love to have a copy of that Modeling with Millie #54 - such a great cover. Thanks for the insights!
Another great episode, loved it! No, you’re not the only one who collects some of those obscure titles. I love thé Marvel romance/humor and western titles during the 60’s, from right before the release of FF #1 through the 15 cent cover price era. There are a ton of those issues which you rarely see, even on EBay, in ANY grade, let alone high grade. Takes a lot of patience but it’s fun.
There's something to be said about coming across comic books you've never seen before, especially older comic books. When I purchased a bunch of those Millie the Models a number of years ago, I passed on the ones that were in lesser grade - and I totally regret it, because I've never come across them again. Of course they were gone the next time I was there!
Good Evening Raph
A great showas always, I don't thonk you would call any of these titles obscure, we had many of The Millie Titles and The Chillis, And The Rawhide kid ruled the range, not to mention the Strange Tales, Tales of Suspense, Tales of Suspense, these were great days Lckily I was born at the beginning of the Silver Age and by the time I had grown some I was right in the midst of these beauties. I never gave it much thought as to how the arrived in Australia but they did. I got my first exposure to Marvel comics at the barbers , I read em all.
Kirby, Heck, Trimpe, Ayers, Lieber, Colan and Lee I soon learnt those names.
Does anybody still love the Forbush Man? Great work
Cheers Al Thegoldkeyfourcolorkidownunda.
@alancarr7718 Hello Al! I would have loved to have seen what the newsstand and spinner racks looked like back in the day. I'm glad you experienced seeing some of these fine books first hand. Thank you for keeping the conversation going!
Great overview and books from the 60s. I really wish I picked up more of these books when I first started collecting in the 80s.
Thanks Brian! A lot of the more obscure stuff I've picked up over the years, but when I started collecting more seriously in the later 1980s and early 1990s, the 1960s stuff was getting expensive. The major keys have always been expensive, but back then they felt like they were within reach. Not so much anymore!
That cover of Groovy #3 is, well, really groovy. I've never seen that issue before. I'll have to see if I can track one down. Thanks again for another fun video!
The humour is a bit...dated. I do like the the graphics/artwork though. I had a chance to buy a #2 last year but it was something like $50 for a mid grade copy which was a bit too much for me.
Another great video! I love the 1960’s era of Marvel and recently added two books to my collection…Strange Tales 141 and Tales of Suspense 82.
At the end of the day, as much as I love 1970s Marvel, the 1960s will be the gold standard for Marvel comic books. In some ways, by being limited to 8 titles, I think they were really able to focus better and create a wonderful super-hero universe.
@@raph-retro-comics Agreed!
Loving the content 👊 very and only comic book centric! That’s great 👍
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the content!
Great video Raph! Appreciate all the information given. As someone starting to collect some of those western titles from this era, this video helps a lot. 👏👏👏
Silver Age Marvel Westerns! You'll have to keep me posted on how your adventure goes. I don't actively search for them, but I do buy them an opportunity comes up. Just from my limited experience, I suspect Kid Colt will present you the biggest challenge out of the three.
Those 60s Marvel books are cool, especially the monsters. I really like the teen and romance books but only have a few in rough condition.
The monster books are my favorites, especially the ones with outrageous names. They have always been hard to find and are now expensive in any grade unfortunately.
Hey Raph! Yeah, I always viewed the Fantastic Four as kinda my guides to the Marvel Universe when I was an early teen reader. I didn't discover that comic shops existed until I was 14, and that was my first exposure to the Lee/Kirby FF issues. Prior to comic shops, all my comics came from Walgreens and department store spinner racks. This was a fun retrospective.
I remember the first time I walked into a true comic book store and I was blown away. It was the first time I had seen several thousands of well organized back issues and more expensive 'wall books' on display. I still remember seeing a Journey into Mystery #83 in a shiny bag on the wall. I think it was priced at $400, which seemed like an insane amount of money back then. I was content to buy my Alpha Flight #1.
@@raph-retro-comics - I totally get that! Back in the early 80s, I used to see Romita issues of Silver Age ASM going for like $5-$6 bucks a pop, and I used to think, "Damn, that is a LOT of money for one comicbook! LOLOL!!
Ralph's ADULT retro ... the YT channel that respects your intelligence!
I'm with you on some of those prototype labels being very flimsy other than name.
I do love a Swamp Thing proto though ...
Supernatural Thrillers 1, Phantom Stranger 14 and HOM 195.
I have a copy of that Amazing Fantasy Ditko cover reprint i bought off Paul Gambaccini...
Somebody should do a lengthy interview with him, he had letters published in those Silver Age Marvel's, has been a lifelong fan of Comics...
I don't think there's anything on him talking comics other than a couple of bit's on that Jonathan Ross Ditko doc
Anyhoo...
Another fun and thoughtful instalment.
🧛
Don't forget about The Heap! I need to do a bit more reading and research into that character. I wish there were more celebrities talking about their love of comic books! Funny how these characters are so popular now in the mainstream, but it really doesn't seem like the popularity has transferred much into comic books themselves.
Ralph keep making these. Love this format and the pictures of covers you show. More pics good haha. Thanks for the history I learned a ton
@MetalBum You're very welcome! This is one of my favorite periods of comic books for Marvel. Amazing what they were able to create in such a short period of time.
@ it is incredible the short period and all those heroes who would be even more popular today about 60 years later on the big screen!
Another very interesting video! I love these history lessons!
Thank you for the kind words and always commenting! There is a mountain of great info on these older comic books!
I cannot decide if you are full of knowledge of comic book history or you have to do a ton of research before each video. Either way, I always enjoy and learn something new from each video.
A bit of both! I know a good amount about comic books, but I do have to spend some time to make sure what I know/remember is correct, as well as get more details. I do spend a lot of time watching other comic channels and listening to podcasts for inspiration!
I don't mind either way either. There's more fun information coming from this channel than almost every other, as so many focus on speculation and values rather than on history and quirky collecting choices.
Good job... I giggle at the pronunciation of "comicbook" that you and also Swagglehouse uses. Sounds like you are saying comma-book. LOL! Still a gr8 post though. Keep it up. 💯
LOL, must be a Canadian/Californian accent of some type!
Love these style videos from you!
Thank you, much appreciated!
Patsy Walker eventually became Hellcat, most notably of the Defenders.
The 4 issue Bronze Age series Beware The Cat was confusing for me as her costume was very similar to Hellcat's, but they are different characters. I think that Cat would later become Tigra. Interesting to think that Patsy Walker would pre-date many well known Marvel Super-heroes!
@@raph-retro-comics She was in the Jennifer Jones series as well.
I love that Patsy is one of the oldest characters in the Marvel Universe. I got the complete Defenders run partly for her (and partly for Valkyrie).
Great video thank you so much for your work!
You're very welcome! Thank you for watching and commenting!
I love these old comics so much! When I saw your copy of Patsy Walker, I recalled that I recently found out a fun fact about one of her issues, when I was shopping for an Old Marvel Monster comic.
There is a YT channel called; "MONComics". He loves Man-Thing and old Atlas/Marvel monsters. I decided to buy and send him an issue and wanted to find him one he didn't have, and also one that had a "cool factor" to it (Like the first Hulk Monster, or maybe an issue right before Thor/Iron Man/or Ant Man appeared). What I wound up buying him was *Journey into Mystery issue #69.* This comic (Along with Patsy Walker) of June 1961, were the *Very First two books that were "Branded Marvel Comics"* (the little MC in the rectangle on the cover made it's 1st appearance on these two issues). I thought it was pretty cool! 😁 Another great video brother. Keep on keepin' one!
I'm a big fan of Brandon and his channel! We have a lot of common collector tastes and it's been great watching him grow as a serious comic book collector. He's a great part of the YT comic book community. That's a great tidbit of information about the Journey Into Mystery/Patsy Walker comic! These early Marvel books are tough to track down. Keep workin' on those Conans!
@@raph-retro-comics Thank you RRC! I am 99% done getting all the Conan's already (including the 1930's Weird Tales issues). Had to start collecting BM as well. 😁 Love the old Monster books as well... when I was shopping for Brandon's copy, I was calculating if I could buy all the old Marvel Monsters myself. It is hard fighting off the addiction of collecting. 😅
@@SonOfCrom-1932 Indeed, fighting off the urge to buy comic books is difficult. I feel these days it's even more difficult as there are so many different options to find books that you like.
@@raph-retro-comics Agree 100%. I am going to have to put my foot down hard on my wallet though... I have spent over 10K on completing my Conan collection in the last 6 weeks.... And, I do want to retire someday before I am 100 years old.😆 So I best slow down, or I know I could be sorry later (though I will still have joy with the comics I bought). ☺
Any excuse to show off your Millies!
...and no, you're not the only Millie collector 😊
I was wondering if anyone was going to hear that remark about collecting Millies. Unfortunately, they're not getting any cheaper or easier to find!
Help me out. I remember a comic that the cover story was” I Am X, The Unknown. But another story included a telepathic with a bald head who fooled alien invaders into not taking over Earth using a stream shovel and thought transference. Was that a prototype of Professor X?
I've wondered about this for half a century.
Anyone?
The comic book you seek is Amazing Adventures #4! You can find more info about the issue here: www.comics.org/issue/16445/
The character you're thinking of is arguably Marvel's first true super-hero of the Silver Age, and that would be Dr. Droom, who would later be re-named as Dr. Druid. The story is the last one in this issue. comics.org is your best friend for comic book research!
Great video as always, keep it up!
Thank you, much appreciated!
I've always loved the "non-superhero" Silver Age comics by DC & Marvel. The war, horror, western, humor, romance & oddball titles are a cool window into a vastly overlooked world of comics.
I have numerous high-grade copies of titles like Jerry Lewis, Bob Hope, Dobie Gillis, and Binky (many featuring the great Bob Oksner). Comics like these and many that you mentioned are so much harder to find than superhero titles.The graded copy of Chili #1 you have is awesome... along with the Millie, Kathy, Rawhide Kid and Groovy issues! In another video you showed Laurel & Hardy #1 by DC from 1972. I also have a great copy of that, a truly obscure one-off title!
I enjoy your videos!
That Laurel & Hardy #1 really is a unique comic book from DC at that time. I'm glad there are other collectors out there like yourself that look for these hard to find oddball titles - they are so much fun, and truly overlooked! When you start to included other publishers from that time, it's mind-boggling to think about what's out there.
Showcase #6 by Kirby the inspiration for Fantastic Four? January 6, 1957.
There appears to be a lot of similarities, and I'm sure Mr. Kirby still had a lot of stories in his head for Challengers when he started on Fantastic Four. I haven't read Kirby's Challengers run, but it's great idea to do some comparisons. A potential future episode!
When and how did they get around the 8 book limit?
Their limit of 8 titles with Independent News started around 1957 when they lost their previous distributor. It appears they started to 'test' this 8 title limit around 1964 or so, as Marvel was having a lot more success at this time. They slowly started to publish more titles, until 1968 when they had a new distribution agreement with Cadence where their title count exploded.
I have that Mad About Millie # 1 and Captain Savage # 1. Both are about a 5 grade.
I must have bought my own Mad about Millie #1 about 30 years ago, and I don't think I've seen another in the wild since then. I'll see Captain Savage #1s, but usually not in nice shape.
Interesting info! Thx
I love mravel 1930 to 1989