Very well made video and thank you !!! After owning a new K1600 GA, the miles started to climb up and so the tech problems. I was very disappointed cause I loved that bike. It came to the point that I did not know what will go wrong on the next ride. The dealer had told me that on every visit, any warranty work, they have to follow BMW's instructions even if the dealer knows what needs to be replaced. I got tired and sold it. I was never an HD guy and so, the next bike close to the K was the new GW DCT Tour. Boy, what a pleasure of a machine. I ride it anytime I can and commute to work daily too. I literally forget at times that I am on 2 wheels. Smooth like butter. The DCT's computer learns your riding habits which is so smart. So easy to work on, cheaper parts and accessories, dealers all over. Happy riding to all.
Your right Mike. Compared to my old Harley (street glide), the new wing is much more comfortable as far as fatigue goes. I can simply ride it further with less saddle soreness at the end of the day. You said it very well, the Harley compared to the new wing is more work. The new wing is effortless to ride and the seating position is more ergonomically correct. - You can put me into the camp that upgraded to an aftermarket seat. Mustang saddle is working out great. 400 milers on the backroads is no problem.
the wing needs to add an extra riding mode; harley mode. for the brief time you may want to make a lot of noise and bark. but you are right, you dont know what you are missing until you ride the wing. the comfort, performance, and how peaceful it is to ride is just phenomenal
@@MrEpipe people still ask me if I miss my Harleys, but I must be honest: No! Only bike I miss was my 2021 Kawasaki Z H2 SE. But if I’d kept it, I’d be in jail or dead.
My wife and I would tour around on a 2013 Road King Classic. When I say tour, I mean San Diego to Sedona AZ and our asses were done. Since I've switched to the 2018 GW Tour DCT, she loves the back seat and we can go further and longer (that's what she said). More room, comfy seat, and leg movement for her.
I had a 2014 GW, I loved that bike. I am 6’4” 280+ I was never really comfortable on the Goldwing. I didn’t like that my feet were under me. Now I loved the GW and the bells and whistles on the GW. I put on highway pegs and my left leg would get hot in the left side of the engine. What I like about water cooled bike is not worrying about it over heating I had a Yamaha Venture next, V-4 water cooled. Good bike but a long bike i didn’t like they eat it handled the corners. If you are looking for ease, comfort, long trip reliability and plastic bike get a GW. If you want American steel and hot loud and American iconic bike get a Harley. If you like to wrench get a Harley I have a 09 Ultra and I have had it on a few trips and i like it. I like the way it feels. If I was going to be doing long trips I would get a GW and a tall boy seat. You cannot beat the reliability of a GW. My problem I love all motorcycles. I wish I had the money and time to ride a bunch of different ones.
Hi, as you had both harley and GW. do you prefer the wing only because of the comfort on long rides? Only reason I ask is because I'm looking for my first brand new bike. I'm male nearly 50 years old. I'm stook between the new wing and harley davidson fatboy. I'd take the wing without thinking if I put a lot of long days in the saddle but truth is I will be a fair weather rider. Long weekend rides behind me now. Any suggestions
Dan The Chippie to me both are great bikes. Mike makes some good points. I would like to ride the new GW DCT. Pro with GW it is a bullet proof bike. I known people that have risen 300,000 miles very little maintenance. Modern GW is a two wheel car. My only con was it is made for people 5’9-6’1” max, I am over 6’3 and fat. So i felt cramped all the time on the bike. Only reason I sold was someone offered me a good price. Con maybe pro: not a lot of add ins, other than paint it comes complete. My bike after wing was a Yamaha Venture deluxe full touring bike. Big enough but had a long wheel base and I didn’t like the way it cornered. I picked up my HD 09 Ultra Classic to clean up and sell. I fell in love with it. I like the way it feels, they way it rides and corners. I am also bought into the HD culture. I live the way it looks. HD is family. Now GW has a pretty good club and following too. But HD is a culture that bridges race and age. To me if you are going to be a weekend rider and small weekend trips get the HD If you are going to put on some miles buy a wing
@@theramblingsoflarry9290 hi Larry, thank you for responding to my post. I will seriously have a look at the fatboy now. I think it's cheaper than the wing too 😁
Thanks, BG! I haven't made as many motovlogs lately, but I'm fixing to. Say, did you see the Harley folks have a 135 c.i. engine now as a Stage IV? I cannot begin to imagine how HOT that thing would run! Not to mention the problems that result from a Stage IV build. I did one once and it contributed to why I left H-D and moved to Honda. Faster is a nice idea, but I'm getting too old for that crap now. Eyesight ain't worth a damn, and my reaction time is slowed by gabapentin.
I find the comfort is relative. They are both good in different ways. One thing for sure, I do not miss the noise and vibration of the limited when I'm on the goldwing. I've even considered putting the stock mufflers back on it. The stock seat is just fine on the goldwing but I needed the back rest and highway pegs to really get comfortable. Wife does not like that seat at all - no padding compared to the limited. For 2 up touring, definitely the Harley, unless I got a trailer and that's not likely. If I could have only one, goldwing for sure.
The comparison is interesting, there are positives and negatives to both, for sure, I do like the Honda more and more every day. It would take an amazing motorcycle to make me change and go back to the Clutch. Comfort, I like mine, for less than 300 I have better padding, did well on an almost 500 mile day, no issues, the lack of heat, sound and the ease of riding made the miles easy to lay down. i was still going strong after the miles, Setup camp, picked up food, made a fire, and ate, on the HD, hard to say, never took it on that kind of trip.
Apparently you made a great choice & No regrets. What cracks me up and I never forgot .... when you made the switch a lot of your subscribers ( or some ) that were HD puritans unsubscribed. They were angry that you chose a Wing over the HD. I find that SO UN AMERICAN ☝️ This is the land of the FREE ! 🇺🇸 Ride whatever the hell you wanna ride ! 🤙
I have been riding over 45 years and had multiple motorcycles bmw k1600gtle 1800 goldwing bmw 1200rt hd vrod yamaha turbo suzuki gs1150 bmw k1200lt. Hd ultra limited. Now I ride a 2016 hd ultra limited it is not fast but I'm not in a rush anymore. My wife loved the bmw k1200lt as a Passenger she felt very little wind. Ride what makes you and your Passenger happy .
Agreed. I loved my Road Glide Ultra dearly but my 2018 Goldwing is just a more comfortable touring bike. It honestly still surprises me at just HOW much more comfortable it is by comparison. I used to make fun of Goldwing riders from the seat of my Harleys, I guess I was just ignorant of the reasons why they rode them!!! 😁
Mengey O had two Goldwing 1800 and now electraglide limited I find the Harley more confortable but it is not in the same leage as the goldwing, if you had a Goldwing before then you know how far you want to push the enveloppe of the Harley, with proper tires and at leasr 35 pds of pressure in the suspension beleive me you can hold your place except for the agility but you can freaking bank it intelegently as far as the goldwing and with that torque you get out of these curves with honour.
I ride old school Goldwing 2012 and the seat is way above and beyond what the 2018 Wing is. I have had 3 Goldwings and never had to get an aftermarket seat. I have 52k on present bike and still love the seat. My son just bought a 2020 Road Glide and I test rode it and I did not get to the end of the street and I did not like the seat. I will stay with the Wing and stick seat works for me.
I’m thinking the GW is more comfortable for those that fit. I’ve tried the previous 2 generations of GW and felt really cramped. I’m 6’3” with a 36” inseam. I have a 07 HD Road King with the stock seat. Honestly has the most legroom of any Harley I’ve ever been on. Newer HDs push me too close to the tank. I have a shorter (than me) friend that loves his GW. I guess comfort is different for different people, for me, I need my legroom! I remember going on a long tour with 4 GW guys. They could ride through a whole tank of gas. I had to constantly remind them I was on a Harley and needed a butt break every 100 miles! They got a kick out of that! Still, for me it would have been worse with my legs cramped up on a Wing... Just gotta find what works for you.
Enjoyed your perspective on the two bikes. I have been riding Gold Wings for nearly 35 years and was a little disappointed in the new body style when launched because I like the larger bike and storage. I thought about going to a Road Glide in 2018 but didn't. I like the looks of the Harley, and the ride is fine too but for my riding I think I'll stay with the Wing. One of these days I might test ride a 2018 and up to see how I like it. Until then my 2008 is running and doing just fine for me.
A year ago, I bought a 2016 Triumph Tiger 800 adventure bike . Worst stock seat in the 50 yrs I have been riding! 30 mins , I would have to get off bike and stand around for 10 mins. The seat would cause me to keep slipping toward the tank. I bought a Sargent Seat for $600. The only problem is that they would not sell me just the riders seat only ,I also had to get the passenger seat . A month ago, I rode 600 miles in one day, No Monkey Butt! My 2015 Victory Cross Country,on the other hand, has the best stock seat! Like sitting in a big catchers mitt !
My wing is much more comfortable that the only HD I had.. old Heritage Softtail. I had an Indian Roadmaster and it was just as comfortable as the wing mostly. Until about 400 miles. Plus it was hotter. I just like the wing engine and handling way better
Great as always sir, I've ridden them all and will do a Wing this year. I bought the 2020 Electra Glide for the vintage look and I'm looking forward to riding the DTC shortly. I know it didn't take moose long. Be safe sire
Have you owned an older GW? I'm still hoping to move up to a new GW (test drove one and loved it), but I've had more than one person tell me, "Buy the older model. It is better for touring (more luggage capacity) and it is SOOOOOOOO much more comfortable!"
No, I have never ridden one of the older gold wings. I was never into their bulky, bubbly style. In the case of two passenger cruising on a grand tour, the older one would probably be much more comfortable and offer much more storage. For a single rider, I think this bike is ideal for commuting, long touring, and inner-city getting around. And it goes very much like a sport bike when you want it to!! 😎👍🏻
The old wing is a much better touring machine than the new. It is right there with the new water cooled M8 motored ultra limited but without all the modern electronics. If I couldn't afford a new harley I would definitely get a 2nd Gen 1800. I would not downgrade to the ST1800 sport tour. It is not really a goldwing.
I’ve got just over 2k miles in less than a month on my 2021 GW Tour DCT and I’ve had a 2003 GW. Hands down the new bike is better in every way. The tech is unsurpassed by any other stock touring bike. With that said I did order over $2500 in extras that should be here in the next 2 weeks. I’ll get all that installed before heading off later this month
Never rode a wing. Sometimes I am curious, sometimes not. It would be on the short list if I was replacing my 2009 RT. Thing is, I'd rather just get a second bike. The RT is paid for and still works fine. My only real complaints are that maintenance is an event and if something breaks, it hurts or can. It's just very different from a HD and a GW. The big K bike is interesting, but more expensive to maintain and more expensive period. It's a rocket though. With a HD, I would get a RK or a FLHTP. Basic bikes. I don't need nav or BT or the gadgetry. ABS, cruiser control are the must haves. Wind protection too.
Hi I have a 2007 softtail deluxe i what to buy the Honda gildwing I’m watching your videos I think is a big change for the good because I see you enjoy your bike a lot.. I want to buy a 2018
Gave mine a year and 13K miles. Getting the wingsoft upgrade cause they can move me back another inch and add better padding. I never really had an issue with the seat itself but after adding the Heli-bar risers, I wanted to move back a little more and get rid of that poorly angled back to the driver's seat.
I had two Goldwing 1800 and with one whent on a 6000 miles ride now I have a Electraglide limited no comparaison the electraglide is way more confortable also due to the way your legs are placed. Great bikes both of them bur the goldwing is a bread apart.
have you put handlebar risers on yout 2018 ? to raise them up and back ? if not have you had any dicomfort while reaching and leaning forward for long periods of time because of the sportier design of the bike ? thanks enjoying your videos
I feel your trying to justify your purchase. Some people are hard to please. Seat fatigued ? Try stopping and having a rest. Coffee break. If you want to ride 300 mi. without taking a break with me, you'd be riding alone. With a sore butt. My Harley has 65.000 mi. on it. Just broke in. The 103 Rushmore is rated for 150,000 mi. So is the drive belt. The seat is perfect. Power is plenty. Travel habits can be changed to be more enjoyable. My horse has features that can out perform motorbikes also. You made a change in ride, just enjoy man, life's good.
My Wing is more comfortable, quieter, easier to handle, lighter, more reliable, faster, smoother, cooler running, more capable, and just all around better than my M8 H-D Ultra ever was. No more burning my leg on the engine/pipes. No more pulling in a POS hydraulic clutch-so bad, in fact, that H-D abandoned it. No more going without my bike for a week or more for yet ANOTHER breakdown. I bought my Wing 2 years ago, snd I have never been happier. After 14 years on Harleys, I am done with them.
The thing is when you have so much power with an auto, manual is not needed. Why go back to manual. Did you do the iron butt yet? Quick questions, does the wing give off any warm air from the engine on the feet or body? Does the wing have speed control?
I just 6260 miles over 15 days. I am not sure if I accumulated 1000 within 24 hours though. I only noticed heat radiating up at me on the highway one time when the temperature was in the 90s but the wind was blowing it away as fast as it got to me. Never once burned myself or anything on any surface of the bike. The bike has cruise control.
Hi pete here mid England! all ur vids show you near home on lovely spaced out empty Roads, As i would love a new or near new Gold wing, after considering the BMW RT 1250 as it is $15000 dollars cheaper than the Wing! But the lower wing and toys it has leans me to the Wing again, please tell me if you would find the DCT wing mauverable on smaller english Roads with loads of traffic lots of small Roundabouts, this is my concern? appreciate your opinion old Chap!!!
Piere Cheers, Pete! The new Wing feels so light and is so agile, it would do quite well in the sorts of scenarios you’ll encounter in England. I say go for it! 😎👍🏻
I dunno Mike. My friend goes on trips with his ol lady. I haven't heard of any comfort complaints. Together they're probably in the 325 ballpark geared up. And of course they have to carry stuff. I think it's a pretty sweet setup.
The stock 2020 ultra limited seat is awesome. I found the new wing seat very uncomfortable. The 2015 Wing was a close second. But the new wing is just not a real 2 up touring machine. Wouldn't even hold my helmet, laptop case, nothing. Very uncomfortable for my wife. The pipe drone and terrible buffeting was a real deal breaker. We are both superfit mid 50s. I am 155 and see is 105. The infotainment, android auto, bosch lean angle abs, traction control, anti-slip electric cush, suspension, fit and finish, paint, quiet exhaust better low speed handling, better center of gravity etc forced me to reluctantly purchase the harley. Very disappointed with the Honda ST1800, err I mean goldwing.
I disagree with every you’ve said. I LEFT my loud, hot, heavy, unreliable Milwaukee 8 with a Stage IV for my Wing, the best bike I’ve ever owned. Rode 13,000 miles in a year, 6,260 miles of it in two weeks, crossing through 16 states and in 2 countries. STOCK. Carried more with me on my Wing than I did 2 years before on my 2-week ride up the East Coast. No problems! But then, I’m a 260-lb 50 year-old travelling 1 up. 2-up, even for wee folk like yourselves, is not what this new Wing is for.
I love the Harley brand rolling works of art but I just can't stand a loud exhaust 24/7 and the tech on the new Goldwing as night and day you get so much more for the money the Goldwing and the K 1600 B are in their own League I don't think the really trying to compete with Harley they're more sport tour looks like a sportbike upfront. Great vid though. 07:36 lmao!!
Maikeli7 , thanks bro! These are padded throughout the entire seat area? Cycling shorts are usually only padded where a bicycle seat would have contact with the body, which is much narrower than a motorcycle seat.
Maikeli7, thanks again, I’ll order them as they a great price as well and probably better than wearing 2 pair of Depends Ultra Absorbent Men’s Undergarment! Lol! Although the Depends cuts down on the washroom stops when you really want to log those big mile days! Hahaha!
I have been riding for over 40 years now had goldwing k1200lt k1600gtle r1200rt yamaha turbo suzuki gs1150 and few smaller bikes the k1200lt was the best for my wife and I for confort and wind protection the r1200rt was the best for city riding as for the k1600gtle it is a rocket to much for touring you don't need all that hp. goldwing my wife did not like the wind protection. I now have a ultra limited and has plenty hp to have fun my favorite bike . Ride safe
Yeah, I don't have a passenger, so all the luggage is for me, and I'm OK with the wind thing. I am not into loud noises, so the fact that the '19 model has a less-than-overwhelming speaker setup is not an issue. Heck, I listen to my stuff through my helmet anyway. After 15 years of Harleys, the past 3 years of Honda have been the most enjoyable yet!
i had 6 harleys and a lot of other bike since i bought my first goldwing 2003 , and wow, suspension so great and the motor 1800cc just perfect but i,m like love and hate, goldwing dont look pretty at all compare to harley but love love ride my goldwing. try to paint some parts in black for better look....
as with anything, everyones ass is different , a seat thats makes u comfortable may not work for me , do whats best for u as a individual. The best seat in the world is the one that works best for u!!
Hey Mike, what do you think about the new front end? This new wing came out the year after I bought my Street Glide and I wasn't ready to sell a new bike and take the loss. But now I'm really tired of the buffeting on my HD and the rough ride was not fixed on the Rushmore bikes. I think I want a full frame mounted fairing and a different front end design that will fix my two complaints about a batwing Harley. Thoughts? Thanks.
For me, the new Wing is a massive leap ahead of the Harley. After riding a new Wing for 4 months, I rode my friend’s Ultra Limited (same model I switched to my Wing from), and I was horrified by what I used to love. But that’s just my take. You need to do a test ride to really get a feel. I recommend the DCT version. I know one thing: Harley has lost its power over me!
I’ve never rode a gold wing so I don’t know how much better they are vs a Harley. I do know one time I had a pair of gold wings pass me on the Interstate at 75 miles per hour and they kinda floated pass me and both the guy and his wife looked so relaxed . Then they were gone . So maybe a gold wing would be the better bike. Stay safe 😬👍
I guest to even watch this video you have to favor the Goldwing but I won’t trade my 2019 HD Limited for one. I am still trying to figure out why the 4 Goldwing riders that I know always asking me to stop sooner then the 200 miles I clock after fueling up. And I wish they would stop asking me to slow down. I LOVE MY HARLEY-DAVIDSON
On a real ride, I go 13 hours per day. Comfort galore. Convenience to the max, reliable, quiet, faster than my ‘17 Ultra Limited with the Stage IV. I LOVE MY GOLD WING TOUR DCT!
Also, your GW friends sound too tame. You wouldn’t get that bullshit from me. And on my Kawasaki Z H2, I’d lose you so fast your head would spin. That bike can go 200 mph. But I’m older and more damaged nowadays, so I’m taking it much easier. I’ve done all the speedy twisties up and down the east coast, been across the country, seen the Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, Devils Tower, Mt. Rushmore, Sturgis, the Great Plains, the Harley-Davidson Museum, Michigan’s UP, Canada, and tons more. Owned 4 Harleys, did all the mods, made all the motovlogs, enjoyed my bikes for 14 years, evolved past them, and now, I’m learning the saxophone, music theory, and Jazz. I don’t give a fuck about brands or stupid loyalty to brands. I buy what I want and enjoy my freedom.
@@maikeli7 That DCT was dusted on the way back from Sturgis. The owner of the Goldwing got into my lane and said “Let’s go” I dropped one gear and left him. When we stopped my only question was if he was in sports mode.
@@alfonsodennis8450 Try that with me. I’ll smoke you. I know this for a fact. The DCT in Sport mode will take a 114. I used to ride a 114-aggressively. Tore up the Tail of the Dragon on my M8 114, scraped the floor boards and under pillars to a knife edge. And the 114 wasn’t good enough for me. Got the DCT, and routinely abandoned all my Harley riders on every road. They simply couldn’t keep up. And I have video evidence. Look up my Road to Hawk’s Nest video. I left all three of my friends and quickly went out of comm range. Or my Maikeli7 Rides the Back of the Dragon video, where one friend crashed just trying to keep up, fell so far behind he got careless and careened off a curve. Or on the road in South Dakota, when Moose’s stock ‘17 Ultra Limited couldn’t even maintain 75 MPH. He ended up getting a DCT.
@@maikeli7 I wish you could line up next to my Harley-Davidson. I will show you Harley’s are not what they use to be. I love Goldwing an’d considering getting one but I’ll keep the Harley that offers me 131ft lbs of torque at the rear end to continue to kick Goldwing butts.
Funny how you can say that a spider is for a girl, when a Wing rider can claim that a trike is for a girl- and a Harley rider can claim that a Wing is for a girl. 🤣
I ride H-D. With that being said, it's sad an H-D rider spends $700 for seat upgrade to match a Wing. It is sad An H-D rider spends $1500 for suspension upgrades to match a Wing. It is sad an H-D rider spends 8-10 k for engine performance upgrades to match a Wing. I didn't, but many have. I'm almost ready to forgive Japan for Pearl Harbor.....I said "almost".
Maybe Harley should make the bike in India and they could sell CVOs for the price of a Limited. That way it would crush the Goldwing in every category.
@@geddstock spoken like a true hater that never owned a Harley. My limited is faster, gets better fuel mileage, is more comfortable (yes, it's subjective seeing how I'm 6'4"), has more storage, has better quality paint and undoubtedly will have a better resale. Not to mention Harley is American. A buddy and I took a 450 mile round trip. The only thing my buddy had me on was the price. I only rode his for 5 min, but that's all I needed. He likes it, that's all that matters.
@@guysmiley8473 😂 not a hater m8.why would anyone hate a motorcycle? The Honda is just a better motorcycle and you know it. I happy that you have your dream bike I really am,ride long and ride safe man.❤️
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Mike, I am so thankful for what you did.
Your thoughtfulness is a gift & treasure for many. Awesome video 👍
Khaja Wasim It was a pleasure, and thank you for the topic!
The goldwing is 1,0000000000000 times better then the harly
Very well made video and thank you !!! After owning a new K1600 GA, the miles started to climb up and so the tech problems. I was very disappointed cause I loved that bike. It came to the point that I did not know what will go wrong on the next ride. The dealer had told me that on every visit, any warranty work, they have to follow BMW's instructions even if the dealer knows what needs to be replaced. I got tired and sold it. I was never an HD guy and so, the next bike close to the K was the new GW DCT Tour. Boy, what a pleasure of a machine. I ride it anytime I can and commute to work daily too. I literally forget at times that I am on 2 wheels. Smooth like butter. The DCT's computer learns your riding habits which is so smart. So easy to work on, cheaper parts and accessories, dealers all over. Happy riding to all.
Your right Mike. Compared to my old Harley (street glide), the new wing is much more comfortable as far as fatigue goes. I can simply ride it further with less saddle soreness at the end of the day. You said it very well, the Harley compared to the new wing is more work. The new wing is effortless to ride and the seating position is more ergonomically correct. - You can put me into the camp that upgraded to an aftermarket seat. Mustang saddle is working out great. 400 milers on the backroads is no problem.
the wing needs to add an extra riding mode; harley mode. for the brief time you may want to make a lot of noise and bark. but you are right, you dont know what you are missing until you ride the wing. the comfort, performance, and how peaceful it is to ride is just phenomenal
@@MrEpipe people still ask me if I miss my Harleys, but I must be honest: No!
Only bike I miss was my 2021 Kawasaki Z H2 SE.
But if I’d kept it, I’d be in jail or dead.
My wife and I would tour around on a 2013 Road King Classic. When I say tour, I mean San Diego to Sedona AZ and our asses were done. Since I've switched to the 2018 GW Tour DCT, she loves the back seat and we can go further and longer (that's what she said). More room, comfy seat, and leg movement for her.
I had a 2014 GW, I loved that bike. I am 6’4” 280+ I was never really comfortable on the Goldwing. I didn’t like that my feet were under me.
Now I loved the GW and the bells and whistles on the GW.
I put on highway pegs and my left leg would get hot in the left side of the engine.
What I like about water cooled bike is not worrying about it over heating
I had a Yamaha Venture next, V-4 water cooled. Good bike but a long bike i didn’t like they eat it handled the corners.
If you are looking for ease, comfort, long trip reliability and plastic bike get a GW.
If you want American steel and hot loud and American iconic bike get a Harley. If you like to wrench get a Harley
I have a 09 Ultra and I have had it on a few trips and i like it. I like the way it feels.
If I was going to be doing long trips I would get a GW and a tall boy seat. You cannot beat the reliability of a GW.
My problem I love all motorcycles. I wish I had the money and time to ride a bunch of different ones.
Hi, as you had both harley and GW. do you prefer the wing only because of the comfort on long rides? Only reason I ask is because I'm looking for my first brand new bike. I'm male nearly 50 years old. I'm stook between the new wing and harley davidson fatboy. I'd take the wing without thinking if I put a lot of long days in the saddle but truth is I will be a fair weather rider. Long weekend rides behind me now. Any suggestions
Dan The Chippie to me both are great bikes. Mike makes some good points. I would like to ride the new GW DCT.
Pro with GW it is a bullet proof bike. I known people that have risen 300,000 miles very little maintenance. Modern GW is a two wheel car.
My only con was it is made for people 5’9-6’1” max, I am over 6’3 and fat. So i felt cramped all the time on the bike.
Only reason I sold was someone offered me a good price.
Con maybe pro: not a lot of add ins, other than paint it comes complete.
My bike after wing was a Yamaha Venture deluxe full touring bike. Big enough but had a long wheel base and I didn’t like the way it cornered.
I picked up my HD 09 Ultra Classic to clean up and sell.
I fell in love with it. I like the way it feels, they way it rides and corners. I am also bought into the HD culture. I live the way it looks.
HD is family. Now GW has a pretty good club and following too. But HD is a culture that bridges race and age.
To me if you are going to be a weekend rider and small weekend trips get the HD
If you are going to put on some miles buy a wing
@@theramblingsoflarry9290 hi Larry, thank you for responding to my post. I will seriously have a look at the fatboy now. I think it's cheaper than the wing too 😁
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I'm A Harley Enthusiast; Road Glide Owner.... However, I Must Say That The Goldwing Is Superb Engineering. Great Content 👍🏾
Thanks, BG! I haven't made as many motovlogs lately, but I'm fixing to.
Say, did you see the Harley folks have a 135 c.i. engine now as a Stage IV? I cannot begin to imagine how HOT that thing would run! Not to mention the problems that result from a Stage IV build. I did one once and it contributed to why I left H-D and moved to Honda.
Faster is a nice idea, but I'm getting too old for that crap now. Eyesight ain't worth a damn, and my reaction time is slowed by gabapentin.
too shy too shy, hush hush eye to eye
I find the comfort is relative. They are both good in different ways. One thing for sure, I do not miss the noise and vibration of the limited when I'm on the goldwing. I've even considered putting the stock mufflers back on it. The stock seat is just fine on the goldwing but I needed the back rest and highway pegs to really get comfortable. Wife does not like that seat at all - no padding compared to the limited. For 2 up touring, definitely the Harley, unless I got a trailer and that's not likely. If I could have only one, goldwing for sure.
The comparison is interesting, there are positives and negatives to both, for sure, I do like the Honda more and more every day. It would take an amazing motorcycle to make me change and go back to the Clutch. Comfort, I like mine, for less than 300 I have better padding, did well on an almost 500 mile day, no issues, the lack of heat, sound and the ease of riding made the miles easy to lay down. i was still going strong after the miles, Setup camp, picked up food, made a fire, and ate, on the HD, hard to say, never took it on that kind of trip.
Did you get a GW DCT also? Didnt know that. Must have missed some of your videos.
Why don’t you just drive your car? You certainly don’t appreciate a bike and all it offers ( or doesn’t offer). Your comment made me laugh.
Apparently you made a great choice & No regrets. What cracks me up and I never forgot .... when you made the switch a lot of your subscribers ( or some ) that were HD puritans unsubscribed. They were angry that you chose a Wing over the HD. I find that SO UN AMERICAN ☝️ This is the land of the FREE ! 🇺🇸 Ride whatever the hell you wanna ride ! 🤙
Eddie B. Hahaha!! Yeah, the butthurt was bad for a while there, but I’m seeing more and more people similar to me in making the switch.
I have been riding over 45 years and had multiple motorcycles bmw k1600gtle 1800 goldwing bmw 1200rt hd vrod yamaha turbo suzuki gs1150 bmw k1200lt. Hd ultra limited.
Now I ride a 2016 hd ultra limited it is not fast but I'm not in a rush anymore.
My wife loved the bmw k1200lt as a
Passenger she felt very little wind. Ride what makes you and your Passenger happy .
Totally agree! Your experience and the bikes you’ve ridden are quite impressive! 😎👍🏻❤️
Agreed. I loved my Road Glide Ultra dearly but my 2018 Goldwing is just a more comfortable touring bike. It honestly still surprises me at just HOW much more comfortable it is by comparison. I used to make fun of Goldwing riders from the seat of my Harleys, I guess I was just ignorant of the reasons why they rode them!!! 😁
Mengey O had two Goldwing 1800 and now electraglide limited I find the Harley more confortable but it is not in the same leage as the goldwing, if you had a Goldwing before then you know how far you want to push the enveloppe of the Harley, with proper tires and at leasr 35 pds of pressure in the suspension beleive me you can hold your place except for the agility but you can freaking bank it intelegently as far as the goldwing and with that torque you get out of these curves with honour.
I ride old school Goldwing 2012 and the seat is way above and beyond what the 2018 Wing is. I have had 3 Goldwings and never had to get an aftermarket seat. I have 52k on present bike and still love the seat. My son just bought a 2020 Road Glide and I test rode it and I did not get to the end of the street and I did not like the seat. I will stay with the Wing and stick seat works for me.
I’m thinking the GW is more comfortable for those that fit. I’ve tried the previous 2 generations of GW and felt really cramped. I’m 6’3” with a 36” inseam. I have a 07 HD Road King with the stock seat. Honestly has the most legroom of any Harley I’ve ever been on. Newer HDs push me too close to the tank. I have a shorter (than me) friend that loves his GW. I guess comfort is different for different people, for me, I need my legroom! I remember going on a long tour with 4 GW guys. They could ride through a whole tank of gas. I had to constantly remind them I was on a Harley and needed a butt break every 100 miles! They got a kick out of that! Still, for me it would have been worse with my legs cramped up on a Wing... Just gotta find what works for you.
Enjoyed your perspective on the two bikes. I have been riding Gold Wings for nearly 35 years and was a little disappointed in the new body style when launched because I like the larger bike and storage. I thought about going to a Road Glide in 2018 but didn't. I like the looks of the Harley, and the ride is fine too but for my riding I think I'll stay with the Wing. One of these days I might test ride a 2018 and up to see how I like it. Until then my 2008 is running and doing just fine for me.
I didn't like the new and smaller one either.. but I've never been on a Goldwing 🇧🇷
A year ago, I bought a 2016 Triumph Tiger 800 adventure bike . Worst stock seat in the 50 yrs I have been riding! 30 mins , I would have to get off bike and stand around for 10 mins. The seat would cause me to keep slipping toward the tank. I bought a Sargent Seat for $600. The only problem is that they would not sell me just the riders seat only ,I also had to get the passenger seat . A month ago, I rode 600 miles in one day, No Monkey Butt! My 2015 Victory Cross Country,on the other hand, has the best stock seat! Like sitting in a big catchers mitt !
This is what touring is all about. I envy you as we don't get too much of this in germany
One of the best videos I’ve ever watched.
Wow! High praise indeed! 😎👍🏻👍🏻
My wing is much more comfortable that the only HD I had.. old Heritage Softtail. I had an Indian Roadmaster and it was just as comfortable as the wing mostly. Until about 400 miles. Plus it was hotter. I just like the wing engine and handling way better
Great as always sir, I've ridden them all and will do a Wing this year. I bought the 2020 Electra Glide for the vintage look and I'm looking forward to riding the DTC shortly. I know it didn't take moose long. Be safe sire
Congratulations on the new bike enjoy and ride safe.
Have you owned an older GW? I'm still hoping to move up to a new GW (test drove one and loved it), but I've had more than one person tell me, "Buy the older model. It is better for touring (more luggage capacity) and it is SOOOOOOOO much more comfortable!"
No, I have never ridden one of the older gold wings. I was never into their bulky, bubbly style. In the case of two passenger cruising on a grand tour, the older one would probably be much more comfortable and offer much more storage. For a single rider, I think this bike is ideal for commuting, long touring, and inner-city getting around. And it goes very much like a sport bike when you want it to!! 😎👍🏻
The old wing is a much better touring machine than the new. It is right there with the new water cooled M8 motored ultra limited but without all the modern electronics. If I couldn't afford a new harley I would definitely get a 2nd Gen 1800. I would not downgrade to the ST1800 sport tour. It is not really a goldwing.
@@xtreme4stringbass Well, thanks for taking a giant shit all over the best bike I’ve ever ridden.
I’ve got just over 2k miles in less than a month on my 2021 GW Tour DCT and I’ve had a 2003 GW. Hands down the new bike is better in every way. The tech is unsurpassed by any other stock touring bike. With that said I did order over $2500 in extras that should be here in the next 2 weeks. I’ll get all that installed before heading off later this month
Kaja goo goo. ‘ELL yes. Good evaluation of these two, and true. Well said.
Thanks! 😎👍🏻👍🏻
Very cool how much you dig your bike. Suits you well.
Broncoride Thanks, my friend! I’m a happy camper for sure! 😎👍🏻❤️
Never rode a wing. Sometimes I am curious, sometimes not. It would be on the short list if I was replacing my 2009 RT. Thing is, I'd rather just get a second bike. The RT is paid for and still works fine. My only real complaints are that maintenance is an event and if something breaks, it hurts or can. It's just very different from a HD and a GW. The big K bike is interesting, but more expensive to maintain and more expensive period. It's a rocket though. With a HD, I would get a RK or a FLHTP. Basic bikes. I don't need nav or BT or the gadgetry. ABS, cruiser control are the must haves. Wind protection too.
Hi I have a 2007 softtail deluxe i what to buy the Honda gildwing I’m watching your videos I think is a big change for the good because I see you enjoy your bike a lot.. I want to buy a 2018
I think too many riders run out and get aftermarket seats before they give the stock seat a chance to break in.
Dogbone13 Agreed!
Gave mine a year and 13K miles. Getting the wingsoft upgrade cause they can move me back another inch and add better padding. I never really had an issue with the seat itself but after adding the Heli-bar risers, I wanted to move back a little more and get rid of that poorly angled back to the driver's seat.
Hey your part of the reason I have a 2017 ultra lol
I could happily add a Gold Wing TO my garage, but could never subtract a Harley FROM my garage.
The goldwing is supreme. My spyder rt is quite similar in features, on a three wheel chassis.
I had two Goldwing 1800 and with one whent on a 6000 miles ride now I have a Electraglide limited no comparaison the electraglide is way more confortable also due to the way your legs are placed. Great bikes both of them bur the goldwing is a bread apart.
have you put handlebar risers on yout 2018 ? to raise them up and back ? if not have you had any dicomfort while reaching and leaning forward for long periods of time because of the sportier design of the bike ? thanks
enjoying your videos
No change, and happily, no problems at all! I’m 5’11”, with a 31” inseam, and I feel like this bike fits me perfectly! 😎👍🏻
Hey buddy where did you get the arm that you have on the GoPro? That’s pretty nice.
Big thumbs up man great job catch you later
Like’n the fade ins/outs.
Dogbone13 Thanks! I thought you might. 😎👍🏻
I feel your trying to justify your purchase. Some people are hard to please. Seat fatigued ? Try stopping and having a rest. Coffee break. If you want to ride 300 mi. without taking a break with me, you'd be riding alone. With a sore butt. My Harley has 65.000 mi. on it. Just broke in. The 103 Rushmore is rated for 150,000 mi. So is the drive belt. The seat is perfect. Power is plenty. Travel habits can be changed to be more enjoyable. My horse has features that can out perform motorbikes also. You made a change in ride, just enjoy man, life's good.
My Wing is more comfortable, quieter, easier to handle, lighter, more reliable, faster, smoother, cooler running, more capable, and just all around better than my M8 H-D Ultra ever was.
No more burning my leg on the engine/pipes. No more pulling in a POS hydraulic clutch-so bad, in fact, that H-D abandoned it. No more going without my bike for a week or more for yet ANOTHER breakdown. I bought my Wing 2 years ago, snd I have never been happier. After 14 years on Harleys, I am done with them.
The thing is when you have so much power with an auto, manual is not needed. Why go back to manual. Did you do the iron butt yet?
Quick questions, does the wing give off any warm air from the engine on the feet or body?
Does the wing have speed control?
I just 6260 miles over 15 days.
I am not sure if I accumulated 1000 within 24 hours though.
I only noticed heat radiating up at me on the highway one time when the temperature was in the 90s but the wind was blowing it away as fast as it got to me. Never once burned myself or anything on any surface of the bike.
The bike has cruise control.
Hi pete here mid England! all ur vids show you near home on lovely spaced out empty Roads,
As i would love a new or near new Gold wing, after considering the BMW RT 1250 as it is $15000 dollars cheaper than the Wing! But the lower wing and toys it has leans me to the Wing again,
please tell me if you would find the DCT wing mauverable on smaller english Roads with loads of traffic lots of small Roundabouts, this is my concern? appreciate your opinion old Chap!!!
Piere Cheers, Pete! The new Wing feels so light and is so agile, it would do quite well in the sorts of scenarios you’ll encounter in England.
I say go for it! 😎👍🏻
i have GW 2020 and i need anthor bike the Ultra Limtied on my list but i dont know if worht
Give it a try! ❤️
I have the Road Sofa seat on my ultra classic is more comfortable than my truck.
Where did you get that sun visor add on for your helmet?
Standard issue with my Aria Corsair X. 😎👍🏻
I dunno Mike. My friend goes on trips with his ol lady. I haven't heard of any comfort complaints. Together they're probably in the 325 ballpark geared up. And of course they have to carry stuff. I think it's a pretty sweet setup.
The stock 2020 ultra limited seat is awesome. I found the new wing seat very uncomfortable. The 2015 Wing was a close second. But the new wing is just not a real 2 up touring machine. Wouldn't even hold my helmet, laptop case, nothing. Very uncomfortable for my wife. The pipe drone and terrible buffeting was a real deal breaker. We are both superfit mid 50s. I am 155 and see is 105. The infotainment, android auto, bosch lean angle abs, traction control, anti-slip electric cush, suspension, fit and finish, paint, quiet exhaust better low speed handling, better center of gravity etc forced me to reluctantly purchase the harley. Very disappointed with the Honda ST1800, err I mean goldwing.
I disagree with every you’ve said. I LEFT my loud, hot, heavy, unreliable Milwaukee 8 with a Stage IV for my Wing, the best bike I’ve ever owned. Rode 13,000 miles in a year, 6,260 miles of it in two weeks, crossing through 16 states and in 2 countries. STOCK. Carried more with me on my Wing than I did 2 years before on my 2-week ride up the East Coast. No problems!
But then, I’m a 260-lb 50 year-old travelling 1 up.
2-up, even for wee folk like yourselves, is not what this new Wing is for.
I love the Harley brand rolling works of art but I just can't stand a loud exhaust 24/7 and the tech on the new Goldwing as night and day you get so much more for the money the Goldwing and the K 1600 B are in their own League I don't think the really trying to compete with Harley they're more sport tour looks like a sportbike upfront. Great vid though. 07:36 lmao!!
Hahaha!! Glad you enjoyed that! You are totally correct about the gold wing and the K 1600 being in a league of their own.
how many ways can you sell a street glide o wait lets call it a ultra and put a trunk on it and some lowers
Mike what brand padded riding shorts did you purchase? I’m having a hard time sourcing a decent pair. Thanks
Doesnt Matter Here you go:
qualidyne MTB Shorts Men's... www.amazon.com/dp/B07DQK5GJ7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
😎👍🏻
Maikeli7 , thanks bro! These are padded throughout the entire seat area? Cycling shorts are usually only padded where a bicycle seat would have contact with the body, which is much narrower than a motorcycle seat.
Doesnt Matter It’s padded where the two butt bones contact the seat. Worked great on my big trip! 👍🏻
Maikeli7, thanks again, I’ll order them as they a great price as well and probably better than wearing 2 pair of Depends Ultra Absorbent Men’s Undergarment! Lol! Although the Depends cuts down on the washroom stops when you really want to log those big mile days! Hahaha!
I have been riding for over 40 years now had goldwing k1200lt k1600gtle r1200rt yamaha turbo suzuki gs1150 and few smaller bikes the k1200lt was the best for my wife and I for confort and wind protection the r1200rt was the best for city riding as for the k1600gtle it is a rocket to much for touring you don't need all that hp. goldwing my wife did not like the wind protection. I now have a ultra limited and has plenty hp to have fun my favorite bike . Ride safe
Yeah, I don't have a passenger, so all the luggage is for me, and I'm OK with the wind thing. I am not into loud noises, so the fact that the '19 model has a less-than-overwhelming speaker setup is not an issue. Heck, I listen to my stuff through my helmet anyway.
After 15 years of Harleys, the past 3 years of Honda have been the most enjoyable yet!
Good video...thanks👍
i had 6 harleys and a lot of other bike since i bought my first goldwing 2003 , and wow, suspension so great and the motor 1800cc just perfect but i,m like love and hate, goldwing dont look pretty at all compare to harley but love love ride my goldwing. try to paint some parts in black for better look....
I have saxophones for looks now. The bike’s for riding, not looking.
Why are the roads covered in clay ?
as with anything, everyones ass is different , a seat thats makes u comfortable may not work for me , do whats best for u as a individual. The best seat in the world is the one that works best for u!!
Very true!
Seats, handlebars, and highway pegs are always very subjective.
Is it just me or does the engine sound like a small, quiet diesel?
I suppose that is a possible association.
Hey Mike, what do you think about the new front end? This new wing came out the year after I bought my Street Glide and I wasn't ready to sell a new bike and take the loss. But now I'm really tired of the buffeting on my HD and the rough ride was not fixed on the Rushmore bikes. I think I want a full frame mounted fairing and a different front end design that will fix my two complaints about a batwing Harley. Thoughts? Thanks.
For me, the new Wing is a massive leap ahead of the Harley. After riding a new Wing for 4 months, I rode my friend’s Ultra Limited (same model I switched to my Wing from), and I was horrified by what I used to love.
But that’s just my take. You need to do a test ride to really get a feel. I recommend the DCT version. I know one thing: Harley has lost its power over me!
Hi my friend
Ahmed Al ismail Hi Ahmed! 😎👍🏻
It’s 90 degrees out and you’ve got the seated heat on 2? What??
Dogbone13 I know, right! Amazing that I wasn’t overheating!
@@maikeli7 People really knew that!
I’ve never rode a gold wing so I don’t know how much better they are vs a Harley. I do know one time I had a pair of gold wings pass me on the Interstate at 75 miles per hour and they kinda floated pass me and both the guy and his wife looked so relaxed . Then they were gone . So maybe a gold wing would be the better bike. Stay safe 😬👍
I guest to even watch this video you have to favor the Goldwing but I won’t trade my 2019 HD Limited for one. I am still trying to figure out why the 4 Goldwing riders that I know always asking me to stop sooner then the 200 miles I clock after fueling up. And I wish they would stop asking me to slow down. I LOVE MY HARLEY-DAVIDSON
On a real ride, I go 13 hours per day.
Comfort galore. Convenience to the max, reliable, quiet, faster than my ‘17 Ultra Limited with the Stage IV.
I LOVE MY GOLD WING TOUR DCT!
Also, your GW friends sound too tame. You wouldn’t get that bullshit from me. And on my Kawasaki Z H2, I’d lose you so fast your head would spin. That bike can go 200 mph.
But I’m older and more damaged nowadays, so I’m taking it much easier. I’ve done all the speedy twisties up and down the east coast, been across the country, seen the Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, Devils Tower, Mt. Rushmore, Sturgis, the Great Plains, the Harley-Davidson Museum, Michigan’s UP, Canada, and tons more.
Owned 4 Harleys, did all the mods, made all the motovlogs, enjoyed my bikes for 14 years, evolved past them, and now, I’m learning the saxophone, music theory, and Jazz.
I don’t give a fuck about brands or stupid loyalty to brands. I buy what I want and enjoy my freedom.
@@maikeli7 That DCT was dusted on the way back from Sturgis. The owner of the Goldwing got into my lane and said “Let’s go” I dropped one gear and left him. When we stopped my only question was if he was in sports mode.
@@alfonsodennis8450 Try that with me. I’ll smoke you. I know this for a fact. The DCT in Sport mode will take a 114. I used to ride a 114-aggressively.
Tore up the Tail of the Dragon on my M8 114, scraped the floor boards and under pillars to a knife edge.
And the 114 wasn’t good enough for me. Got the DCT, and routinely abandoned all my Harley riders on every road. They simply couldn’t keep up. And I have video evidence. Look up my Road to Hawk’s Nest video. I left all three of my friends and quickly went out of comm range. Or my Maikeli7 Rides the Back of the Dragon video, where one friend crashed just trying to keep up, fell so far behind he got careless and careened off a curve.
Or on the road in South Dakota, when Moose’s stock ‘17 Ultra Limited couldn’t even maintain 75 MPH.
He ended up getting a DCT.
@@maikeli7 I wish you could line up next to my Harley-Davidson. I will show you Harley’s are not what they use to be. I love Goldwing an’d considering getting one but I’ll keep the Harley that offers me 131ft lbs of torque at the rear end to continue to kick Goldwing butts.
The spider is a awesome bike for a girl. But for a man it’s a goldwing trike all the way.
Funny how you can say that a spider is for a girl, when a Wing rider can claim that a trike is for a girl- and a Harley rider can claim that a Wing is for a girl.
🤣
I ride H-D. With that being said, it's sad an H-D rider spends $700 for seat upgrade to match a Wing. It is sad An H-D rider spends $1500 for suspension upgrades to match a Wing. It is sad an H-D rider spends 8-10 k for engine performance upgrades to match a Wing. I didn't, but many have. I'm almost ready to forgive Japan for Pearl Harbor.....I said "almost".
Maybe Harley should make the bike in India and they could sell CVOs for the price of a Limited. That way it would crush the Goldwing in every category.
@@guysmiley8473 if you buy a Harley for $5 it still gets crushed in ever category other than price.
@@geddstock spoken like a true hater that never owned a Harley. My limited is faster, gets better fuel mileage, is more comfortable (yes, it's subjective seeing how I'm 6'4"), has more storage, has better quality paint and undoubtedly will have a better resale. Not to mention Harley is American. A buddy and I took a 450 mile round trip. The only thing my buddy had me on was the price. I only rode his for 5 min, but that's all I needed. He likes it, that's all that matters.
@@guysmiley8473 😂 not a hater m8.why would anyone hate a motorcycle?
The Honda is just a better motorcycle and you know it.
I happy that you have your dream bike I really am,ride long and ride safe man.❤️
That bike has no clutch....
Scott Bollinger DCT = Dual Clutch Transmission. AKA Automatic. Best setup I’ve ever had!
Where’s the fun in that ??
Scott Bollinger If I have to explain, you will never understand. 🙄
Maikeli7 ..you don’t, I was kidding.... I have an 19 ‘ Ultra Limited
Scott Bollinger Hahaha!!
6 '4" 270# HD pants 36 36. Goldwing isn't built for a man.
Guy Smiley 6’ 260 lbs. Wing fits me fine. Last I checked, still have my balls.