Best Subwoofer UNDER $1,200? HSU VTF-TN1 Review with Measurements
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024
- Best Subwoofer UNDER $1,200? HSU VTF-TN1 Review with Measurements
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I have had hsu subs in my theater for about 13 yrs now and couldn't be happier. (4) 12's stacked in the front and 2 15's in the rear- best bang for the money...
Dr HSU is one of the nicest people I have ever met!
I agree 1000%. I haven’t met him in person but every communication we have had over email. He’s been the most sincere and kind gentleman.
With the ported Hsu subs, in my opinion, the EQ1 with 1 port open is definitely the way to go! I’ve had the VTF-3 MK5 for 7-8 years now and it’s been great!
@@FalconsATL where do you run your Q control? I'm trying to get a little higher frequency to hit a little harder.
@ I have mine at 0.7 for the flattest bass response. I tested from 0.5 to 0.7 with REW and couldn’t tell much difference but 0.7 was better for me in a larger room.
Have you tried EQ2 with two ports open?
I have a large family room with kitchen/dining area attached, and that opens up to a larger space. I have two VTF3 MK5's, which is similar, but a bit smaller. I never pushed these subwoofers to the limit, but from what I read on Audioholics review of this subwoofer, it seems to start hitting its mechanical limits at the very low frequencies. Audioholics was mentioning to run this subwoofer in EQ2 at all times. Also, I felt one 4 inch port for a beefy 15 inch driver is sort of small and could result in port noise.
Bought one right after I saw the video. Been on the fence for months waiting for this review. Because I knew if this Bass Maniac is happy, I would be happy. Thank you Sir, it will be here on Friday.
Thank you for doing this review! I am still amazed there are not many reviews on this sub. Seems to be a home run! Decision time!
I've had a Hsu VTF-3 MK5 for many years. I still love it.
Great job once again! 😎👍🏼
I got 4 of those and had to send 2 back. lol 😂 4 was more thin my house can handle plus my wife was complaining about things, shaking, and pictures falling. lol 😂 love these subwoofers.
I like your approach man. Just order a couple pallets of subwoofers and send back what you don't end up using, LOL😂
What volume level did you play them at? You should turn them down, not send them back. because 4 subs, when calibrated, should give you better, smoother bass control in the room.
Thanks for this awesome review! I've been using HSU subwoofers for 20 years and they have always kept me coming back for more. I'm planning to upgrade my dual VTF-2's to a pair of TN1's in early 2025.
Great detailled review Michael - I enjoy this level of testing (with REW) - Thanks - Cheers!
Thanks Garry.
You know what would be cool? Nobody reviews their speaker line and they look very intriguing. Those horn bookshelves and the big ones with 8" drivers. It is nice to see a HSU sub review, you might be the first. You never see it.
I brought one of his original subs 12"" cylinders back in the late 90s used it till about 4 years ago. Met Dr Hsu at the Waldorf Astoria ( Stereophile Audio show) about 1995? Realy Excellent Demos. Really Really Nice down to Earth Man Dr Hsu is!!
Amazing review. Thank you for taking your time
Nice review but the real nugget of gold was the frequency response comparison between your living room and theatre. Sound advice to use two subs minimum to smooth the raggedy small room response. .
Peak output measurements showing onset of compression would have been a great a addition.
I always appreciate your contributions to the hobby through this channel, AVS Forms, and everything in between.
Hopefully Dr. HSU switches to magnetic grills. It’s a small adjustment that probably wouldn’t impact production.
I have one, love it, jonesing for a second. The height actually matches a lot of salamander type of a/v stands, so it's perfect with what I have
You should che k out the tonewinner line up, good performance for the price
I love the TN1! Please note that HSU says EQ2 is required when both ports are unplugged.
That is correct. I should’ve mentioned it in this video as well. I wish it was a little more bold than simply buried in the middle of the owner’s manual.
Well, I watched your video last night, and now I just bought one!!! If it’s everything I think it will be, I’m buying another one next month. Haha, this channel has cost me some 💰, in a good way. Thanks for the good review.
Then why do you want to go and blame me for your impulsive upgrades? 🤣🤣🤣 Congrats on the new sub!
Hey Michael, long time follower here. I have seen you mess with REW here and there, but I’ve always been curious. Do you tune your own system or have someone help remote calibrate?
iTunes my own system, but I’m not an expert with REW. When I had that in my system, I had a friend help me dial it in.
Great video. It’s weird that your umic is clipping at that level. You should be good up to 120 dbs or so.
Also, these video are very informative and probably pretty time consuming. Using a processor or avr with Dirac bass control will make the setup easier in my opinion. Bass control does an amazing job
It would be really kool if you could run 2 subs in your reviews to show how they work together for improved performance. Bass control would shine here as the setup would be pretty straightforward.
I reached out to mini DSP to see if that was normal. I’ll probably hear from them later this week.
Have mine for 6 months and love it.
Wish they would have kept the VTF-15H MK2 style. Love that style with the triangle ports. Plus I don't care about the depth, it's the height I have problem with because I use a tv stand and my room is not wide to put the subwoofers farther apart.
I forget the actual name of the finish but the cherry wood finish they offered on it looked really nice too
I was a very happy HSU research owner in the past. Hard to find better value and performance at that price point
i havent seen anyone review the coaxial theater speakers that hsu offers. Would love to see some opinions on those. Thanks for the video
When are we going to get a PB-17 review in you room. I'd love to see how it really performs.
I was able to hear the PB-17 this week @ Grid HiFi in Houston TX. That subwoofer is an absolute beast ! Sitting offset of the sub about 9 feet away in a very large room , the air from the ports were moving my pants legs😂. The best subwoofer I have ever heard by far !
@kkenmmac22 I want to get one. I hope there will be a small sale on them on black Friday.
@@EVMANVSGAS from what I heard you won’t be disappointed when you get one 👍🏾.
Been waiting on this review, great job on the details. I’m trying to get an endgame setup, 4 of these or two rhythmic f18s. Very hard to decide. I currently have hsu uls-mk2 and a rel 1205. They both sound great in my living room but I’m moving and I’m sure I’ll be in a much bigger space.
Yeah, sub placement in the room is rarely going to be correct if you put them under your main front speakers; placement is crucial with subs so you put them in the places where they serve you best. Every time you see someone with a nice, pretty setup with the two subs symmetrically placed around the display it's a surefire bet that they're not getting the most out of their subs. These have intrigued me since they first came out, but shipping to where I am would be more than $100. And then there'd be taxes and customs to deal with as well. But, a solid deal for some serious subs, clearly. A pair of these would still be way less than just a single SVS 17 incher. Sure, the SVS is going to beat one of these but I doubt it would embarrass them. And you can get four of these cheaper than two SVS 17s.
Great brand .. I love to see their gear at audioshows.
I knew it! You're the kid from Christmas Story!
I was really thinking about a HSU but I ended up pulling the trigger on the Klipsch RP-1400sw through the slick deals / adorama sale for $699 free shipping. Feel like that price to performance was hard to beat.
I recently received an Omega System 1100 home theatre system without any cables (free is free, though)
The power cables are there, but the rest is not. Do you have any advice on where I may go online to get them? Thus far, my hunt has been in vain.
If you have time, thanks!
Very nice video Youthman. I really like this sub. I believe the power cable is on the thin side because of the low power output. I believe only 12-14 gauge is more than enough for the short run and power rating. 👍
Yeah, like I said, it probably doesn’t change affect performance, but like you said, it just feels really thin and not like your typical round thicker power cable.
@@Youthman I prefer the over kill if anything it looks better, 100% power and less likely to be bent and damaged. 👍
Great video! Thanks for sharing
Another great review, Michael thank you. I am having trouble deciding between the.Hsu vtf tn1 or the arendal 1723 1V that you have also auditioned. I would really love and appreciate your opinion on which of these two subs do you like better personally I am not real concerned about bass below 18 hertz. I’m all about the quality of bass. But at the same time low extension is important of course. I presently on to SVSPB 4000s. Svs has gotten to be too expensive here in Canada so I was looking towards the Arendal or HSU companies. Looking forward to hearing from you, Michael.
The Arendal 1V is much denser cabinet and has more flexibility with their app. The magnetic grill stays on the Arendal.
Huge difference in price. Performance wise, both are great subs.
Hi Michael. Thank you for the super speedy reply. I know the build quality of the Arendal is superior and you can’t beat their warranty as well. Yes a huge difference in price that’s for sure but I’m OK with that. I have a dedicated home theatre approximately 25 feet long by 11 feet why my pee before thousands rest of the back of the room and I would be placing the rentals in the front two corners behind my critically transparent screen. Are you leaning more towards the Arendal. and are you going to be doing a full review on them soon? Thanks again for everything. Love your channel.
I meant to say SVS pb 4000s lol
When did you get this in?! This sub is my first choice for what I’m looking for! 🎉 plus it has high level inputs so I’m hoping the sub 20hz performance is everything it seems to be! 🎉
Three months ago. Sounds like you missed the unboxing / overview - ruclips.net/video/nR5DMJphpfg/видео.htmlsi=TsagyXPrWVC0f6Q6
I have 2 jtr 2400 subs and am thinking of getting 2 more of these hsu subs for backs do you think they would play well together and would the hsu subs help pressurize the room and add some more impact ?
I’d figured those jtr would be way more than enough. I’m hoping two of these hsu would be enough lol
@@Roel-o5ojust one JTR definitely is enough its just that i want atleast 4 subs in the room at all four corners or nearfield behind the seats for a bit more punch
Ya mean I've got to watch both Dune films again? Well, okay I will...... if I have to. 😉😁
I hope u cover the svs pb17
When are you going to do the new SVS series
All three of mine toss the grills off. I just gave up putting the grills on.
Ok so it wasn’t just me 🤣
@ Yea I think they just need a little more clearance Clarance. lol Otherwise I love them!
I’m thinking of getting two maybe three, how big is your room and how do they sound? Would that be endgame for you? I’m coming off their sealed sub and it’s really good but I’m moving to a bigger space in a new house.
@ My space is rather large. It’s L shaped, with one leg of the L being 20x40 feet and the other leg 30x40 feet, 9 foot ceilings. That said the theater is curtained off in a corner that’s 17x14 but of course the curtains do nothing to contain the low frequency. 3 of them is plenty for that space and it’s flat down to 16 Hz at 110 dB. I do supplement with tactile transducers in the couch to get the tactile feel without too much pressure in the room. Too many raves have left my hearing very sensitized. I’m happy with them. I protect them with a compressor and a limiter.
@@glfporsche1 that is a large space. I believe I’m going in a 16 by 20 space so was just wondering how may of these subs to get. Trying to get an endgame status for a long while. Don’t have money for jtr subs but I do for a few of these.
I don't think the amplifier with such a small heatsink really delivers 600 watts rms. Remember that this is a class AB amplifier and the stated wattage is often incorrect. often this is measured in 10% thd! watt sells
Does the subwoofer have parametric eq? So you can lower frequencies there are too many of, due to the room? It's much more important than all the stupid preset choices that never do what you wanted
Eh I think part of the cost here means you want to supplement with reciever eq. As you might imagine, the core performance of this works great with dirac bass control
A friend of mine asked this: “Why would Dr Hsu design an incorrect sized grill? I have not read anyone else having that issue. (the grill popping off repeatedly)”. He’s thinking you may have just got a defective grill. 🤷♂️
It very well could be. I’m just sharing my experience with it.
Someone else just commented that they have three of them and all three keep tossing the grills so they finally gave up putting them on.
I have 2 of these subs and have been running them for several months with no grill detachment. Perhaps there was a limited manufacturing issue?
I'm not rich enough to buy disc's or especially Kaleidescape so I have downloaded all my 4K HDR movies from the very fine gentleman who does all the remux uploads and it's a lot better the streaming The most recent one I watched was the new bad boys movie 🍿 fully I must say the picture now was very really really really amazing PQ definitely a reference movie for the visuals especially the opening scene the first 5 minutes is amazing It was a fun movie to watch for sure!
Ah, would like to chat about this if able
PS 2 of these for about $ 2400.00
I put in Maverick to listen to the demo at 2min 15s and it's the intro to the movie?
It’s not start of movie it’s one of the attack runs
2min 15 seconds is the name of the scene on Kaleidescape. It’s where he is doing the test run to see if he can make the flight in under 2min 15 sec.
The scene is probably 3/4 the way through the movie
This subwoofer cover needs to be put on glue and don't use it a few days so that the glue dries well 🤣👍
With a woofer that plays that sloppy, I could see it being fun, but with little control. It looks like it would exaggerate the bass like no tomorrow. A Rythmik would be the polar opposite of this thing.