Definitely selective enforcement of rules. Why does the t80b get thermals when irl only a few prototypes had them? The f20 and bison should both get fox3 missiles
ironic how they wont give the F-20 AIM-120s when it had the capabilities to hold them, when the YAK-141 didnt even do any complete weapons testing and it has "full" Loadouts
Ironically, the F-16A OCU in the Thai subtree is one of the models that IRL *couldn't* carry Fox-3 missiles. Not until they were upgraded to the (e)MLU standard which essentially brought them to the same level as an F-16C Block 50. Thailand also had F-16A ADFs, which could use AMRAAM but no air-to-ground ordnance. Meaning that basically, Gaijin added a Franken-Viper in this update. As for the Chinese F-16A MLU, Gaijin just needs to add a separate "Late" version with AMRAAMs. And also move the J-10 over to one of the PLAAF lines instead of lumping it in with the ROCAF fighters.
the Typhoon is also a weird mix between the Tranche 1 and 2 the Tranch 1 had no A-G weapons at all as it was missing the Avionics for it too yet the Tranch 2 already carried more Advanced versions of the Aim-120 that we also don't have in the game yet, aswell as the Capabillity for the British one to have ASRAAM and the German one to have IRIS-T Dogfight missles
i really think moduals should give BR, that way say the f16 on your list it starts at its normal BR but once you research and apply the moduals that is when it jups up to the fox3 br
@@mr.abrams8112 it did have hmd and irst, literally every fighter that was made by the Soviets from the mig23 had irst and every fighter from the mig29 had hmd
from my latest experience with the Italian ADF it desperately needs Aim-120's even if it's just 2 you have almost 0 chance fighting against the Top Tier Planes
Fox 3s would result an immediate BR increase for early F16s , they wont be that competitive against top tiers , also why would you fight top tiers in an early F16 while you can fight them with more modern F16C . I am not complaining or saying it's wrong , what i mean its just a pointless addition . Pesonally i would rather keep fighting 3 rd gen fighters with an F16A carrying sparrows than fighting moden 4.5 jets in a modernized early F16 .
Gaijin should implement a variable br depending on the weapons you carry. F-16 without Aim-120 is 12.7 but if you choose to bring them the br will increase. Let the players choose
not the same thing, but i feel you. i play Air Sim and i cant confidently dogfight in anything that isnt a powerhouse like the F-14, or has insane accel and T/W like the Harriers. can confirm that ive dogfighted a MiG-29 and got a gun kill on him.
Speaking for the F16A ADF. So my way of thinking is it should just be added since it would be a small increase in be .7 to 1 br higher. Another point is why would the F16A ADF which was upgraded and bought by Italy for the AMRAAMs as a stop gap against more modern jets. Besides the J10, euro fighters, rafale and a skilled gripes pilot the F16 can hold its own so it’s a moot point on weather it wouldn’t compete against them well or not.
the R-77, like other fox-3s, are mostly dependent on their platform for speed. A R-77 launched from a low-and-slow platform like the Su-25 would be far from the r-77 most know and love.
I think that the only reason they are not adding R77s to the Yak 141 is because of that they are going to release the Mig 29k soon. And if they gave the Yak 141 R77s then there would be a an even larger gap between the Yak 38 and Yak 141
I don't think it should get R-77s I mean it should but the BR would sky rocket, for just 2 R-77s that aren't even good FOX-3 missiles, from 12.3 to 12.7 or 13.0 which make this thing not worth it just my opinion.
@@Davey_gooner It should honestly get a tech tree variant (Russia and India) that can carry the R-77, along with being able to carry 4 R-73s if you want to do so.
it was modified mirage f1 with the newer radar that was planed for the mirage 2k-5 to test the mica before introduction because the older avionic was not compatible with the mica they had to modify it
A jet that is not in game, but should be with Fox-3s is the F-104S.ASA/M, we already have the other Gen 3s with Fox-3s and it would be a very cool plane to add. It could also carry the Aim-9L(I), and the Fox-3 missile would be the Aspide 2.
i think the way the weapons are balanced with BR should be changed it should be "dynamic" where in the modifications tab you could select certain weapons or even just modifications in general that you want to have access to and that will change your BR so like think like a stock F-15E would be 13.3 instead of 14.0 but spaded it would jump to 14.0 again it would make the stock grind a bit easier but better balance these jets at certain BRs however i see a flaw with potential seal clubbing cause a F-15Es thrust at 12.3 fighting F-4EJ Kais would suck but i feel a spaded EJ Kai would have a decent chance against a stock F-15E really theres alot of possibilities
I just realized something this year we got the Mad Max April Fools which had set of vehicle, one vehicle had 3 ver in a folder. Did gaijin implement a prem bundle like that with the Tiger E/W, Ostwind E? We could also use a similar system with other regular vehicles giving them a different ver, different perfor + BR
it was modified mirage f1 with the newer radar that was planed for the mirage 2k-5 to test the mica before introduction because the older avionic was not compatible with the mica they had to modify it
Italian F16ADF should have fox 3, at least it would be a bit more playable lol. Facing 24/7 fox 3 while having just AIM7M and AIM9L is really bad. And i think it should be 13.3 as the Mig29SMT because it doesn't have an HMD and if i'm not mistaken it could only carry 4 AIM120 + 2 AIM9L/I
Gripen A also can carry AMRAAMS (and IRIS-T). I hope in the future it gets both of them. Its not supposed to have such a robust ground attack kit compared to the gripen and it should have been more like the AJ37
Still fighting to get the YAk141 fox 3s and r73s. Mind you it flew less then the SU 47 and had the same planed loads as the su47. But the su47 would be a bad add.
the Su-47 would be a great add. itd have the best high speed sustained turn rate, no matter what aircrafts get added after it. plus it would still retain complete roll capabilities at near-stall speeds. the joys of forward swept wings.
There is a suggestion on forum for F4EJ kai ADTW, which is the lastest japanese phantom with AAM-3/4 and AN/APG66 which is on F16AJ but it was from F15 so probably with TWS. And it was passed to developers this week
I bought the F-20 In hope that some day they will give it AIM-120 like when they upgraded F-5C, but they might just make an f-16 premium with AIM-120 since everyone will buy that
They should just add the r27 to the su39 because fox 3 would make it shit. Also there’s no reason to have an su25t and su39 with the only difference is that one gets a radar for better offense
Su-33 would just bump up to 13.0 just like the US AV8B with Aim120s. They just need to add a Su-33 with R77 on Russia techtree at 13.0 or 12.7 and don’t mess with the premium version.
Su-33s arent compatible with R-77s irl. there are mods in DCS that allow them to carry the R-37s and R-77s, but theres a reason that Eagle Dynamics doesn't put them on the base aircraft. its also the same reason Gaijin doesnt.
The F-111 Should be able to carry the AIM-54. I should have type this out but The F-111 could carry the AIM-54 not saying they absolutely NEED to be added I think its cool.
@@mikeyplayzwrld I mean they did test it and it worked, I would like to add that I don't think it needs to be added I just think it would be cool, I should've type that out better.
For Italy’s F-16 I think the best solution would just be to have a foldered Fox-3 capable F-16 ADF which is more accurate while still preserving the other one for TT balancing purposes.
Su-39 works already badly at 11.7... it's good at sim only when it's the high br and it stills struggle! They're better removing it if increasing it's br
same situation with ground vehicles...... for example leopard2 A4 irl used dm33 but in game have only dm23 so? geaijin why no ad dm33 because need to ad to 11.0 or 11.3 br why to ad to vehicles better "missiles" ? is perfectly balanced is this tier..... f16 is good witout fox 3 and others what is the biussnis ad fox3 add put them in 13.7?and yak 141 what armament used in real life?
The Yak-141 should not get the R-77. With only 60 countermeasures and a bad RWR and only 4 missiles, it would go under. It is in a good spot where it is neither good nor bad and that is fine. Just no mate, please.
it was modified mirage f1 with the newer radar that was planed for the mirage 2k-5 to test the mica before introduction because the older avionic was not compatible with the mica they had to modify it
@@BetaSquadCenteral insert the entirety of the YAK-141. the F-20 was planned to carry AIM-120s and would've, but Northrop canned the F-20 project when they realized that no one was going to buy it. the YAK-141 never underwent its Fox-1 or 3 missile testing, only flight testing and seeing if it could carry R-60s. despite this, the Freestyle can carry R-27s and is modeled off of the production version which never came to be.
R-77 didnt get much evolution like the AMRAAM did so the best they could prob do is the R-77-1 but even thats barely real. they COULD do the K-77 but that missile is only for the SU 57 i think and its under development
@@lionhardtnook2889 Bruh stop talking about the game like it is real life accurate when it just isn't. Early R77 could reach further distances than early AIM120 (A and B). AIM120 drastically improved its range in its C5 and C7 variants later. C8 variant which is also called AIM120 "D", is a further improvment of the AIM120C7. R77-1 is comparable to the AIM120C5/C7 variants (but it srill has better range), R77M (still better range than US counterpart) is comparable to AIM120D (C8) which is the best AIM120 that USA actually have. And yes, R77-1 and R77M are 100% real, even export variants do exist. I'm really wondering why people like you like to spread misinformation when it's so obvious you don't know what you're talking about. Do you think that talking bs will make US any better or Russia any worse both irl and in game? What are you trying to do? Lol About the K77 we have little to no informations (i honestly think this doesn't even exist and this is just random misinformation online because we literally have no reliable sources of such missile), what we know though is that Russia is developing a better R37M which could fit in Su57 internal bays and R37M performances are well known: mach 6+ and able reach up to 400km of distance. And these hypersonic AAMs can be also carried by Su30s, Su35s, and Mig31s. In game R77 isn't modelled correctly. R77 should have more drag at subsonic speeds in comparison to missiles having conventional fins, but at supersonic speed there shouldn't be any difference. Since Gaijin have a single drag value for the missiles, R77 has too much drag not only at subsonic speeds (which are the speeds the missiles reach when it's basically already out of energy) but even at supersonic speeds (so for the 90% of the time of its flight) and that's why it perform so unrealistically bad.
@@somerandomboibackup6086 Gaijin never added vehicles and missiles based on when they've been in service in real life. And honestly this should never be the case for the sake of the balance unless people want to fight russian hypersonic AAMs while having supersonic missiles having 1/4 of the range of hypersonic AAMs that both Russia and China have in service since years. You know, AIM260 is still just on paper and any program trying to develop that missile failed in the last years.
@devisucarlo7922 holy shit i clearly lit a fuse in you 💀 Apologies for any misinformation I knew that the R-77-1 and R-77M were a real thing (my bad for wording it wrong). The bad modelling could be the grid fins bleeding the R-77 energy horribly at transonic speeds but turn wise its more superior to the AMRAAMs
i dunno... it might be unplayable in RB but i can see myself having some fun with it in Simulator battles. its the same reason the F-117 sucks. most of the playerbase plays RB or AB, but giving teh aircraft their realistic(and planned armament) regardless of classing or BR, would make Air Sim so much more fun and, in some ways, playable.
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"We wont add AIM-120 to F-20 because it never carried real AIM-120's and it was just promotional" "Also heres our interpretation of the Yak-141"
Makes no sense at all.
I’ve said this a dozen times.
Definitely selective enforcement of rules. Why does the t80b get thermals when irl only a few prototypes had them? The f20 and bison should both get fox3 missiles
Only if they implement separate BRs depending on the selected loadout
By this logic where are the yaks r77s
ironic how they wont give the F-20 AIM-120s when it had the capabilities to hold them, when the YAK-141 didnt even do any complete weapons testing and it has "full" Loadouts
Ironically, the F-16A OCU in the Thai subtree is one of the models that IRL *couldn't* carry Fox-3 missiles. Not until they were upgraded to the (e)MLU standard which essentially brought them to the same level as an F-16C Block 50. Thailand also had F-16A ADFs, which could use AMRAAM but no air-to-ground ordnance. Meaning that basically, Gaijin added a Franken-Viper in this update.
As for the Chinese F-16A MLU, Gaijin just needs to add a separate "Late" version with AMRAAMs. And also move the J-10 over to one of the PLAAF lines instead of lumping it in with the ROCAF fighters.
the Typhoon is also a weird mix between the Tranche 1 and 2 the Tranch 1 had no A-G weapons at all as it was missing the Avionics for it too yet the Tranch 2 already carried more Advanced versions of the Aim-120 that we also don't have in the game yet, aswell as the Capabillity for the British one to have ASRAAM and the German one to have IRIS-T Dogfight missles
i really think moduals should give BR, that way say the f16 on your list it starts at its normal BR but once you research and apply the moduals that is when it jups up to the fox3 br
Very nice idea
Would reduce GE module sales so won't happen.
The Yak-141 at the very least should get the capability to carry 4 R-27ER/ETs.
Yeah, the yak141 is so gimped compared to similar br jets
well the yak 41 sucks ass irl soooo
@@mr.abrams8112 uh no it didn’t lmao. It was the first supersonic carrier capable vtol aircraft. It was basically a harrier but better.
@@mainhalo117 yes it was actually, it didnt have remotely any of the features it has in wt, hmd, irst etc
@@mr.abrams8112 it did have hmd and irst, literally every fighter that was made by the Soviets from the mig23 had irst and every fighter from the mig29 had hmd
from my latest experience with the Italian ADF it desperately needs Aim-120's even if it's just 2 you have almost 0 chance fighting against the Top Tier Planes
Not only that they could just give it max aim-120 load and they can add the F-16B in place of it which would allow it to have bombs
Fox 3s would result an immediate BR increase for early F16s , they wont be that competitive against top tiers , also why would you fight top tiers in an early F16 while you can fight them with more modern F16C . I am not complaining or saying it's wrong , what i mean its just a pointless addition .
Pesonally i would rather keep fighting 3 rd gen fighters with an F16A carrying sparrows than fighting moden 4.5 jets in a modernized early F16 .
Because f-16a has a better fl8ght model
Because not every nation has an F16C
@@VideoSmasherssure, but not by much. And the C gets HMD which is a lot more valuable.
Italy does not have a F16C
@@VideoSmashers and?
Give the netz the rest of its counters and ill be happy ratting around.
Gaijin should implement a variable br depending on the weapons you carry. F-16 without Aim-120 is 12.7 but if you choose to bring them the br will increase. Let the players choose
The YAK 141 is one of the most maneuverable fighters of the Soviet branch in my opinion magnificent acceleration
Maneuverability and acceleration arnt the same
not the same thing, but i feel you. i play Air Sim and i cant confidently dogfight in anything that isnt a powerhouse like the F-14, or has insane accel and T/W like the Harriers. can confirm that ive dogfighted a MiG-29 and got a gun kill on him.
@@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL he’s stating two points… its the most menuverable, AND has crazy acceleration
Speaking for the F16A ADF. So my way of thinking is it should just be added since it would be a small increase in be .7 to 1 br higher. Another point is why would the F16A ADF which was upgraded and bought by Italy for the AMRAAMs as a stop gap against more modern jets. Besides the J10, euro fighters, rafale and a skilled gripes pilot the F16 can hold its own so it’s a moot point on weather it wouldn’t compete against them well or not.
I feel like R-77 for the Su-39 is too much but it having R-27 would make it a genuinely fun jet to play.
the R-77, like other fox-3s, are mostly dependent on their platform for speed. A R-77 launched from a low-and-slow platform like the Su-25 would be far from the r-77 most know and love.
I think moving the bison to 13.0 and giving it 2 R77s makes the most sense and is the only one I would push for
I think that the only reason they are not adding R77s to the Yak 141 is because of that they are going to release the Mig 29k soon. And if they gave the Yak 141 R77s then there would be a an even larger gap between the Yak 38 and Yak 141
The mig 21 bison even used an R77 on an F16
I don't think it should get R-77s I mean it should but the BR would sky rocket, for just 2 R-77s that aren't even good FOX-3 missiles, from 12.3 to 12.7 or 13.0 which make this thing not worth it just my opinion.
@@Davey_gooner It should honestly get a tech tree variant (Russia and India) that can carry the R-77, along with being able to carry 4 R-73s if you want to do so.
@@PerfectedVenus_Monsoon That sounds way better, they could make it a sub-Tech tree in Britian, or Russia
Mirage F1 fired mica during missile validation
it was modified mirage f1 with the newer radar that was planed for the mirage 2k-5 to test the mica before introduction
because the older avionic was not compatible with the mica they had to modify it
And so you want a variant of the f1 with micas at 13.0 fighting eurofighters?
@@SmarterSmart9 i didn't say that, i just wrote it because it's fun to imagine a old jet have the newest missile in the his techtree
Could be next French rank 8 premium with fox3s like JA37DI
@@qltcn yeah i agree
A jet that is not in game, but should be with Fox-3s is the F-104S.ASA/M, we already have the other Gen 3s with Fox-3s and it would be a very cool plane to add. It could also carry the Aim-9L(I), and the Fox-3 missile would be the Aspide 2.
The Yak-28 platform could have a unique set of air to air missiles
7:00 i can see him at 13.0 if they do add the R-77 and R-27ER
Would be fine to have R27ER
The JA37D could use aim-120 along with the JA37DI but it’s nice only one of them has fox-3 in game right now
5:30 naaah, i see him more at 13.0 being the enemy of the AV-8B+
i think the way the weapons are balanced with BR should be changed it should be "dynamic" where in the modifications tab you could select certain weapons or even just modifications in general that you want to have access to and that will change your BR so like think like a stock F-15E would be 13.3 instead of 14.0 but spaded it would jump to 14.0 again it would make the stock grind a bit easier but better balance these jets at certain BRs however i see a flaw with potential seal clubbing cause a F-15Es thrust at 12.3 fighting F-4EJ Kais would suck but i feel a spaded EJ Kai would have a decent chance against a stock F-15E really theres alot of possibilities
I just realized something this year we got the Mad Max April Fools which had set of vehicle, one vehicle had 3 ver in a folder. Did gaijin implement a prem bundle like that with the Tiger E/W, Ostwind E? We could also use a similar system with other regular vehicles giving them a different ver, different perfor + BR
The gap between the ef2000 and the f104 in the italian tt would be the same with the 13.3 f16adf.
Mirage F1C também pode usar MICA, porém a gajin não deixa
it was modified mirage f1 with the newer radar that was planed for the mirage 2k-5 to test the mica before introduction
because the older avionic was not compatible with the mica they had to modify it
@mathis.docquier Mirage F1C, has a Moroccan version. The Mirage F1EM (or mF2000), which can use AASM, MICA, Magic's and more.
@@darkduskofc yeah, not the versions in the game
sorry to point out but early f16s were not compatible with fox 3. They had to be retrofitted to work with aim7 in the first place.
@@MajorMorrozov The F16 ADF (or at least, the italian one) has never used AIM-7M but only used the AIM-120A.
Source: MUSAM, Bracciano
Italian F16ADF should have fox 3, at least it would be a bit more playable lol. Facing 24/7 fox 3 while having just AIM7M and AIM9L is really bad.
And i think it should be 13.3 as the Mig29SMT because it doesn't have an HMD and if i'm not mistaken it could only carry 4 AIM120 + 2 AIM9L/I
Gripen A also can carry AMRAAMS (and IRIS-T). I hope in the future it gets both of them. Its not supposed to have such a robust ground attack kit compared to the gripen and it should have been more like the AJ37
If we want historical accuracy for the Gripen A, don’t forget the remove the hmd it shouldn’t have
@@batlax18lol ye
What about F-4EJ Kai?
Wish it could use AAM-4
Still fighting to get the YAk141 fox 3s and r73s. Mind you it flew less then the SU 47 and had the same planed loads as the su47. But the su47 would be a bad add.
the Su-47 would be a great add. itd have the best high speed sustained turn rate, no matter what aircrafts get added after it. plus it would still retain complete roll capabilities at near-stall speeds. the joys of forward swept wings.
You're missing the F-4EJ Kai from the Japanes
It should get AAM-3 and AAM-4
There is a suggestion on forum for F4EJ kai ADTW, which is the lastest japanese phantom with AAM-3/4 and AN/APG66 which is on F16AJ but it was from F15 so probably with TWS. And it was passed to developers this week
@@rixuuukinda like the f4f ice we have on the Germany tech, worst jet with fox 3 lol
@@mcbgaming95 its not the worst
The regular SU27 should have Fox3 atleast.
Why? If they add Fox3 it would be 13.3 or 13.7, at that point its just a worse version of the 27sm, nothing unique
the Su-27A cant hold 77s irl, so why should it in game?
I bought the F-20 In hope that some day they will give it AIM-120 like when they upgraded F-5C, but they might just make an f-16 premium with AIM-120 since everyone will buy that
One plane they have to put in game its the F-5EM, a 3 gen fighter modernized in brazil to carry derby and pythons 3 and 4
@tiagocmkx4738 F-5TH Super Tigris with Derby for Japan as a premium/event
They should just add the r27 to the su39 because fox 3 would make it shit. Also there’s no reason to have an su25t and su39 with the only difference is that one gets a radar for better offense
F-16A block 15 would be butchered by the BR increase resulting from getting fox 3s
what about the f15j (13.0) since it is an f15c
Su-33 would just bump up to 13.0 just like the US AV8B with Aim120s. They just need to add a Su-33 with R77 on Russia techtree at 13.0 or 12.7 and don’t mess with the premium version.
Su-33s arent compatible with R-77s irl. there are mods in DCS that allow them to carry the R-37s and R-77s, but theres a reason that Eagle Dynamics doesn't put them on the base aircraft. its also the same reason Gaijin doesnt.
The F-111 Should be able to carry the AIM-54. I should have type this out but The F-111 could carry the AIM-54 not saying they absolutely NEED to be added I think its cool.
😂😂
Buddy is delusional
@@mikeyplayzwrld I mean they did test it and it worked, I would like to add that I don't think it needs to be added I just think it would be cool, I should've type that out better.
LOL. Stupid ass suggestion.
ok
planes unable to hold fox 3’s should NEVER be in a match against fox 3’s its just dumb, its like forced to use a knife in a gunfight
I touched my self to this information btw
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i dont care about 120s in my chinese mlu at this point. just give it's 90 countermeasures again
For Italy’s F-16 I think the best solution would just be to have a foldered Fox-3 capable F-16 ADF which is more accurate while still preserving the other one for TT balancing purposes.
Also the m346 FA. But at what rank?
@@pierluigiadreani2159 depends on if the IRIS-T is added lol if not, I’d say around 11.0-ish
Su-39 works already badly at 11.7... it's good at sim only when it's the high br and it stills struggle! They're better removing it if increasing it's br
same situation with ground vehicles...... for example leopard2 A4 irl used dm33 but in game have only dm23 so? geaijin why no ad dm33 because need to ad to 11.0 or 11.3 br why to ad to vehicles better "missiles" ? is perfectly balanced is this tier..... f16 is good witout fox 3 and others what is the biussnis ad fox3 add put them in 13.7?and yak 141 what armament used in real life?
Everyone get a f16 but Germany
The Yak-141 should not get the R-77. With only 60 countermeasures and a bad RWR and only 4 missiles, it would go under. It is in a good spot where it is neither good nor bad and that is fine. Just no mate, please.
Non of the paid aircrafts should not have use those op fox 3's for now, it would be pay to win. Im not counting squadron vehicles
BRO HOW DO YOU SEE MIG-21 AT 13.0 WITH R77??
MiG-21 Bison is 12.7
There is an F4 with 4 AMRAAM’s and 4 aim-9l/i’s at 13.0
@iboopy-fl2ic its 12.3 in air rb
@ aight but with r77 it cant be
@@superJ1047huh. didnt notice it got moved down
U forgot the mirage 4000
That was made late 70s the mica wasn't started till the 80s and used in service in the 90s (iirc)
@ look it up.
it was modified mirage f1 with the newer radar that was planed for the mirage 2k-5 to test the mica before introduction
because the older avionic was not compatible with the mica they had to modify it
What about f20 as it had mock ups with aim120s
bro, can this dude stop saying "right" after every sentence?! it hurts my brain
Bro forgot the F20, the f20 can carry 4 amraams with double racks under the wings
It never carried actual aim-120s, only mockups.
@@BetaSquadCenteral insert the entirety of the YAK-141. the F-20 was planned to carry AIM-120s and would've, but Northrop canned the F-20 project when they realized that no one was going to buy it.
the YAK-141 never underwent its Fox-1 or 3 missile testing, only flight testing and seeing if it could carry R-60s. despite this, the Freestyle can carry R-27s and is modeled off of the production version which never came to be.
better arh for russia where
R-77 didnt get much evolution like the AMRAAM did so the best they could prob do is the R-77-1 but even thats barely real. they COULD do the K-77 but that missile is only for the SU 57 i think
and its under development
R-77-1 came out in 2015, its equivalent AIM-120C(5) came out in 1996. Good luck convince Gaijin bro, this isn't ground
@@lionhardtnook2889 Bruh stop talking about the game like it is real life accurate when it just isn't.
Early R77 could reach further distances than early AIM120 (A and B). AIM120 drastically improved its range in its C5 and C7 variants later. C8 variant which is also called AIM120 "D", is a further improvment of the AIM120C7.
R77-1 is comparable to the AIM120C5/C7 variants (but it srill has better range), R77M (still better range than US counterpart) is comparable to AIM120D (C8) which is the best AIM120 that USA actually have.
And yes, R77-1 and R77M are 100% real, even export variants do exist. I'm really wondering why people like you like to spread misinformation when it's so obvious you don't know what you're talking about.
Do you think that talking bs will make US any better or Russia any worse both irl and in game? What are you trying to do? Lol
About the K77 we have little to no informations (i honestly think this doesn't even exist and this is just random misinformation online because we literally have no reliable sources of such missile), what we know though is that Russia is developing a better R37M which could fit in Su57 internal bays and R37M performances are well known: mach 6+ and able reach up to 400km of distance. And these hypersonic AAMs can be also carried by Su30s, Su35s, and Mig31s.
In game R77 isn't modelled correctly. R77 should have more drag at subsonic speeds in comparison to missiles having conventional fins, but at supersonic speed there shouldn't be any difference. Since Gaijin have a single drag value for the missiles, R77 has too much drag not only at subsonic speeds (which are the speeds the missiles reach when it's basically already out of energy) but even at supersonic speeds (so for the 90% of the time of its flight) and that's why it perform so unrealistically bad.
@@somerandomboibackup6086 Gaijin never added vehicles and missiles based on when they've been in service in real life. And honestly this should never be the case for the sake of the balance unless people want to fight russian hypersonic AAMs while having supersonic missiles having 1/4 of the range of hypersonic AAMs that both Russia and China have in service since years.
You know, AIM260 is still just on paper and any program trying to develop that missile failed in the last years.
@devisucarlo7922 holy shit i clearly lit a fuse in you 💀
Apologies for any misinformation I knew that the R-77-1 and R-77M were a real thing (my bad for wording it wrong). The bad modelling could be the grid fins bleeding the R-77 energy horribly at transonic speeds but turn wise its more superior to the AMRAAMs
ur mising the f4s it did test the aim-120 on it
so did the F-14D, so if the Super Tomcat gets added and it doesn't have AMRAAM support, ima do a backflip
SU-33 can absolutely use R-77 but it doesn’t get them
It's radar was incompatable with r77s
the Su-33 cant. no TWS and it was the Flanker-B radar, not the radar that the SU-27SM or the J-11A uses.
@ su-33 in game has TWS
They should NOT give the Bison its r-77, it's already a from 11.0 at 12.3 and with arh it would be propably 13.0 and be borderline useless
i dunno... it might be unplayable in RB but i can see myself having some fun with it in Simulator battles. its the same reason the F-117 sucks. most of the playerbase plays RB or AB, but giving teh aircraft their realistic(and planned armament) regardless of classing or BR, would make Air Sim so much more fun and, in some ways, playable.
I just want a mode without fox 3 missles
More videos pls I wanna nonstop see content (jk)
LOL. This guy craps out videos over nothing .
Bro just yaps, not everything needs a Fox 3
For reals dude. A lot of yapping over nothing
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