Ben Folds - "Kristine From The 7th Grade" [Official Audio]
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
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LYRICS:
Are you the same Kristine
I knew from 7th grade?
No, it’s definitely you
Just with a new last name
Someone who laughed a lot
Is what I remember the most
But the face in your profile
Suggests maybe not so much anymore
Yeah, I got the emails
These last two years everyday
And I don’t reply because
I’m not really sure what to say
Kristine, from the 7th grade
The anger the all caps
And all the pseudoscience
The misspellings they must be on purpose
We went to a good school Kristine
So what would you imagine
I might take from this deluge of memes
With the cryptic dark bible quotes,
Guns, and dead fetuses
Seriously Kristine, are you okay?
This world can be wonderful too, yeah?
Do you ever see it that way
Kristine, from the 7th grade
There’s a break in the rain
A perfect time for a walk
The smell of wet leaves, the warm smiles and hellos
These things exist in the real world, you know
Oh, what a shame Kristine
This disease that makes strangers of friends
But if these days it’s really us’s and them’s
Maybe you should just take me off
Both of those lists
It’s such a short and sad and beautiful life
Do you ever see it that way?
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I feel like everyone has a Kristine in their life at some point…
Particularly over the last two-three years!
Yes, I had a good friend of many years from grade school who got caught up in the rightwing frenzy of conspiracy theories and falsehoods. He also started sending me blatantly racist content as well.
Sadly, I had to sever ties with him because he had transformed into a kind of twisted, hate filled creature. I didn't recognize my friend any longer. What a tragedy. 😢
@@dan_hitchman007 That was my dad's reaction. Tellingly, I found it funny, but he found it sad, probably because he's lost a lot more friends this way than I have.
@@stoleymo79 Whats happening to us and why?
I've listened to him since I was 15 (1995). He was always able to express my feelings musically. To myself and to people I care about. My wife loves listening to him. Especially when I have trouble vocalizing my emotions (I'm on the spectrum). She's appreciates that I have always been able to express my emotions through these songs and pieces. She's got so many CDs!
My dearest friend turned bitter and we went our sperate ways after trying hard to fix things..i still miss him
Wow, I totally loved this. Bravo, Ben Folds.
It's really a nice song that shows how people these days go from being sweet, funloving kids to angry, bitter partisans. I saw my father evolve from a highly intelligent engineer and math teacher to returing and watching nothing but MSNBC all day, and my buddy's father who watched nothing but Fox.
They may have been different ideologically, but they were actually the same.
My dad and I, both big Ben fans, just saw him in Huntington NY. I'd known this song for a few months by then but it was his first time hearing it, and it's pretty telling that he found it sad while I found it funny. I think he's had to deal with a lot more Kristines than I have.
This whole album is a masterpiece.
A beautiful lament!
Uh-ah, and that Tierce de Picardie at the end 😊…
"There’s a break in the rain
A perfect time for a walk
The smell of wet leaves, the warm smiles and hellos
These things exist in the real world, you know"
Only Ben Folds would find a poetic way of saying "I'm going to go outside and touch grass." XD
Can't get over how great this album sounds.... Go to Hell already Michael Brauer .
I know that Ben made up this character and is meant to be an exaggerated caricature, it’s funny to see how many people took these lyrics personally and got mad about it
Maybe it’s not so exaggerated after all
Didn't get mad. Said it was lazy and uninspired. I find is equally funny to those who claim it to be a masterpiece.
@@igloozoo3771😂
He didn't make it up. This is a woman he actually knew in 7th grade and reconnected with later online, she immediately started sending him conspiracy theories.
@@rickypatrickdreams8989 unfortunately not, he talks about how he came up with this fake person in his live performance here ruclips.net/video/V2hoZYhrE38/видео.html
So many Kristines! Wtf, anyway?
Wow could this comment section get any more butthurt?? Jesus. I Love this song. It's a beautiful reflection on how people in your life change. You all feel like you're the same in 7th grade, except for maybe the "coolness" factor, but you are with the same people for like 12 years from Kindergarten through graduation...no one has to deal with political leanings at that point...and then as you grow. And, on both sides, people get more extreme. He just chose one side of the extreme to highlight. And he shows his own leanings and bias by using the small jib at the spelling etc. The point is we grow and become polarized from one another. I feel like I resonate with the idea very much. And as a person who doesn't live in an echo chamber, and constantly interacts with and respects people who believe WILDLY different things from me, I get it. I really do. I do think their outlook on life is sad, and I am positive they think my outlook is sad too. Pretty sure that's the point. And for the love of God, if you don't like the song, the internet is huge go listen to something else lol
Jsyk, I’m huge lifelong Ben Folds fan. Which is kinda why I feel entitled to get butt-hurt and over these lyrics and rant about it online, so sorry lol
The only lyric we get depicting this 7th grade Kristine is “someone who laughed a lot”. The rest of the lyrics are just judging her for what he perceives as dumb, assuming that she doesn’t see beauty in the world, like he does, and then criticizing her for her spelling.
I genuinely don’t see any lyrics that actually reflect on how people change, as you say, just assertions and judgements. There are no lyrics where we learn why or how Kristine might have changed. Essentially all he’s saying is “damn Kristine you really suck now”. There are no other dimensions to her character, no self-reflection on his part, an no reflection on how they have become polarized.
Ben has written some of my favorite lyrics ever, but these are some of his worst
@@mistybaylock I mean, he does ask if it's the same person, which implies he knew her a certain way. Also, I think you're taking the lyrics personally. it's supposed to me interpretive, cuz art. And I don't think he's saying she doesn't see any beauty in the world, but she certainly doesn't share it. She only shares hateful, gross, bummer-y shit to scream into the void how she's right. And how would he have any other dimensions? Kristine chose the persona she displays. Like anyone on social media, you see just blimps of their life in social media...they choose what you see. And if that person comes off as awful and negative and as if they can't see beauty in the world? That's on them. I mean, that's what I get out of it anyway. But, by all means, feel entitled and be offended. You don't have to enjoy all of his stuff.
@@krislynmcgettigan9909this ^
@@kremlingkrool2776 There are no politics in this song. Don't confuse conspiracy theories and the trends towards anti-intellectualism and individualism with politics - Trump tried to blur the line, but these things aren't even related.
Why are you so butthurt that some people voice their opinions and may have opinions that defer from yours?
Sounds like Kristine's gone off the rails.
Just saw this live with the Utah Symphony. So great!
I'm seeing him tonight in DC. 🙂
So wish I was there. Hope the audience did not laugh.
Sometimes we can all be a bit like Kristine. That’s why we need reminding. 🙂
Brilliant lyrically and instrumentally on all levels.
i honestly mostly never remove anyone. I do love engagement, whether you've been 'down the rabbit hole', or whatever.! This song is simply capturing.
piano - exquisite and on point! experienced this quite a bit.
This song made not my day but probably my year 🥰
Not only do I love the song, I find it hysterical in seeing who internalized this song as negative.
Amazing tune!! Love the lyrics!
ben's political songs are always so cringe and basic. It would have been cool for him to write from a more nuanced perspective other than "trump qanon lady bad bad bad lololololol"
“Basic”? Like I get that you probably think it’s cringy cause you’re taking the lyrics to heart, but the composition and incredible orchestral arrangements that he’s made with this is anything but basic
@@CaiGuy64 I’m obviously only speaking about the lyrics
You're confusing Ben Folds with someone who writes "political songs." There's nothing political about this song.
If you think Qanon (or even Trump) have anything to do with politics, you might be a cultie.
@@EducationMattersYes Damn, do I really have to do a whole songwriting analysis for you? I'm bored so I will. The only things we learn about Kristine are the facts that she:
1. used to smile a lot
2. now has now fallen into the qanon trump rabbit hole and wont stop sending extremist emails (Ben specifically mentions the issues of gun control, abortion and religion)
3. she is bad at spelling, even though she also grew up with privilege
Ben concludes from this that she see's no beauty in the world and that they should further disconnect from each other. This song is very specifically about politics, even mentioning specific issues. What am I failing to see here?
@@mistybaylock I understand. A lot of people think of gun control, abortion and religion as "politics." They are (or always were and should stil be) completely separate from politics. They're moral issues that should never have been be associated with a political party. Even kindergarteners are familiar with the term "separation of church and state," for example. But these lines have obviously been blurred to the extreme over the last few years.