Hutch is extremely reasonable. Even if hes wrong i will always give him the benefit of the doubt. Every viewer cop or crim viewer should do the same. I truly believe he always has the best interests of the server at heart. This is coming from a Kebun and CG viewer.
@@RPCentral7 the cops should always have a small advantage, Hutch is right K is wrong, I have been a cg viewer since summit. Cg is on easy mode on Prodigy, the cops have been heavenly handicapped against gangs. My Cg now would get owned on Nopixel.
sorry but hutch is wrong with this one if the suspect is down on the ground they no longer pose a threat so shooting them there is Excessive force and not valuing life. No pixel was 1000% shit because of cops granted hutch was playing Tarkov during all of the 4.0 shit so he never had to deal with it but cops only used AR's they would pit at 150mph they would open fire all the time with no reason and there was no limit to amount of cops on scene, Gang shit was nearly impossible cause as soon as shit popped off cops would roll in 20 deep and kill everyone. Fines were fucking massive ifaks were more broken than the drugs in this city and their cars were tanks not to mention they had actual tanks and jets and unlimited heli fuel with lock on tracking that didint break wih los
if the crims are using it as a reboot van to get back into the action instead of using it as a disengagement as Hutch claimed in the video, then what choice do cops have if everyone is just getting back up in the fight? Is that not abusing the system on the crims behalf? Might as will give a /revive option at that point.
the change of charges being more like nopixel and being more of a "soft ban" than just a short timeout and u can go back to playing/having fun on a GAME has changed crims's attitudes too imo as a viewer
@@joeypatterson5783 They are still a cop putting 2 in the back of the head of someone who cant fight back is wild it takes like 10 seconds to pick someone back up its not like they can get up on their own
@@mattmatt4918 so driving off the top of a parking garage and driving away is similar to real life, what about any other jump, what about getting stabbed and shot daily and walking out of the hospital 5 min. later, that's pretty close to real life, right?
Hutch is mostly right but the cops do switch to s class to catch up otherwise when K catches them switching back and forth it isn’t from another chase. also like was said, criminals don’t have S class so when did they switch during a chase? It’s cope to think they don’t W chase with broken car modes
@ I’ve watched multiple pov’s where they switch in and out of S class when they fall behind. Some officers get a talking to, some pull up and apologize when they get called out, but they do it more often than a couple times. Taking out S class is the best thing especially when there really isn’t S class cars in the city
Crims are always going to complain when cops go out of their way to chase that W. People out here trying to act like cops and crims are playing the same game. Cops have absolutely nothing on the line, they have 0 risk, and they get pretty much the best of everything for nothing.. Hutch forgets sometimes what its like to be a crim, and how it feels to spend hours in jail when the cops act like gangs, and have 0 investment. At least when another crim guns you down you know they earned it.
hours? do you not realize the times for CG get cut by server management? they cannot get more than 8 hours unless its a murder charge. Crims decide to put themselves in shit situations, if cops are baiting then dont take the bait.
@@logicalknigh7969 8 hours is essentially docking them a day of pay irl. You have to understand, this not only costs them money but hours of grinding. Also they have put in months of progression to get where they are. When cops have none of that, the only hardship they have is not winning, which has absolutely no downside except to their ego.
There used to be this game called telephone where you would be given a message and you had to whisper the msg to another person. Then that person would whisper it to someone else and so on. The point being to see how the message changes over time. This is like telephone but only one person fucks the message all up.
Hutch does make some good points but he doesnt always like to entertain all sides. The health regen from the drugs is one of the few things that help balance the crim/pd shootouts, all things considered. He also doesnt want to admit the PD is just shit with tactics. Theyve consistently been wiped, regardless of numbers and firepower, as if they never learn anything. Then it doesnt help that Hutch will come up with vague plans that send them into a buzz saw just so he can mald about how they dont listen. The devs buff their equipment to help the skill deficit but the equipment is only as good as the operator. Comparing CG raid Sanguine to save Cain and the PDs attempt was like watching zero dark thirty vs delta farce. Hutch really demonstrated his tactical abilities there lol. Love the RP tho
9MPH until you add that class S atop that. Max Speed S-Class Cop 160 Max Speed A-Class Crim 141 Plus better grip/cornering/acceleration?? I dislike when Hutch makes excuses and talks around the circle playing Captain Get-a-long Gang. What would solve the problem?? What Hutch started with defending and making excuses for in the first place. Cops refusing to play by rules and match class per pursuit.
Here's my question, why is it the cops responsibility to alter their car to match a crims during a chase, why aren't all the cars set to a certain class. So if a cop brings out a car that significantly slower than a crims car vise versa oh well, come prepared next time, then the whole argument that there are too many interceptors in my opinion will be valid. But to put a responsibility like that on the cop, then yeah you're just asking for it to be 1. Abused or 2. cops forget to switch, which I have seen multiple times on multiple different streamers, they don't try to abuse it for the most part, but just forget in the heat of the moment, and it's easy as the viewer to say and judge otherwise.
If they were smart, the cops wouldn't form these huge conga lines behind crims. You gotta have a lot of areas activey patrolled so if a highway blast occurs, there's always a unit ahead of them. Clustering up down south at the pd isn't the play. It allows the crim to easily outrun the radio callouts.
I just don't get how he's defending people in S class by saying people forget to switch. Why are they in S begin with? No other cars they could possibly chase is S class.
Lmfao right? They even have new tools that I'm pretty sure no pixel has NEVER had, prodigy cops are fckn INSPECTOR GADGET out here!😂😂 All the new super OP tools like the fckn GPS SHOOTING RIFLE THAT STICKS TO CARS😂😂 Honestly though I don't think things are overly unbalanced, mostly because cops can now be robbed which i have always thought was the dumbest rule ever.
My problem with hutch's takes are he doesnt compare apples to apples... he always compares apple to oranges and it just doesn't work. He does make some good points tho.
🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:01 *🎯 Cop Shootouts and Handcuffing Controversy* - Discussion of cops handcuffing players during active gunfights. - Concerns raised about unfair tactics and responses from gang members. - Emphasis on balancing gameplay mechanics between cops and criminals. 02:36 *💊 Overpowered Healing Mechanics* - Observation of criminals using pills that heal instantly during fights. - Critique of how this mechanic creates imbalance in gunfights. - Call for reevaluation of game mechanics to ensure fairness. 04:20 *🔥 Cops' Rules in Gunfights* - Explanation of server rules about downed mechanics and cops’ roles. - Argument against reinstating outdated rules limiting cops' abilities. - Advocacy for maintaining challenging gameplay for criminal players. 07:07 *🚔 Cops' Power Misuse vs. Balance* - Reflection on past servers where cops abused power, contrasting current dynamics. - Discussion of how cop gameplay is designed to ensure fair interactions. - Criticism of players who misrepresent the state of cop gameplay. 09:13 *💼 Cops Targeting Specific Areas* - Explanation of why cops patrol drug-heavy areas like K Town. - Justification of actions based on in-game criminal activities and warrants. - Refutation of claims that cops intentionally bait gunfights. 14:04 *🚗 Balance in Vehicle Mechanics* - Detailed comparison of cop and criminal vehicles. - Acknowledgment of differences in speed, durability, and acceleration. - Call to adjust vehicle balance while maintaining fairness. 18:31 *🏎️ S-Class Vehicles and Gameplay* - Suggestion to remove S-Class vehicles to simplify gameplay balance. - Explanation of how S-Class cars disrupt fair chases. - Advocacy for standardizing vehicle classes for cops and criminals. 24:30 *🛡️ Gunfight Baiting Accusations* - Rejection of claims that cops bait gunfights intentionally. - Assertion that actions are based on roleplaying responsibilities. - Clarification of how misinformation spreads and impacts player perception. 26:20 *🤝 Tension Between Cops and Zo* - Discussion about Zo’s complaints regarding cop interactions and actions during arrests. - Claims of unfair treatment by cops, including accusations about evidence handling. - Zo’s overreaction to perceived slights, escalating into a desire for retaliation. 28:12 *🔥 Zo’s Retaliatory Threats* - Zo expresses frustration with specific cops, vowing to take matters into his own hands. - Heated rhetoric about unleashing violence on the cops due to perceived mistreatment. - Reflection on how Zo’s reactions often escalate into personal vendettas. 29:09 *🎭 Critique of Zo’s Overreactions* - Lighthearted take on Zo’s tendency to spin situations into personal grievances. - Commentary on how Zo’s response to minor incidents often leads to exaggerated retaliations. - Frustration with inconsistent expectations from Zo about roleplay dynamics. Made with HARPA AI
Don't think so. I guess I saw vinny going North to check out how it is and nobody showed up because most of them were waiting around K Town to find reasons to escalate
Honestly I respect the boys but they're proving to everyone they have had beef with right. Everytime they either take an L or one of their members get slapped by the police they gotta go with order 66. Zolo gotta run to daddy when he takes an L
Chases have been going on forever becuase pd lacks the skills to spike or pit and box cars. This is why swaps and blocks occur...the crims cars are getting outlasted by the broken pd cars so they require fueling up or a new car from it being broken from pits that arnt backed up with boxes. PD shouldnt automatically win a chase because they have 4 additionals that aint doing shit but chasing and hoping the criminal accidently breaks their car. Also Hutch it watching a PD bike be primary vs a sedan and shooting while driving. That is way beyond their SOPs. give an inch take a mile.
That would prove his point even further. Him arguing the guns is correct, cop guns are better, Him arguing the cars he is also right the cars are better, him arguing the S class usage, he is right cops use S mode to catch up and switch down to A. Cops camping K town but refuse to go to mirror park or ESBC turf he is also right. If hutch wants to argue otherwise it’s incorrect look at the gang point in terms of drug sales Hades, ESBC, Refugees are all ahead in terms of drug sales so to sit here and say only drug sales happening are in K town is factually incorrect. Hutch saying only CG have police equipment is also incorrect, Hades and ESBC have all robbed cops and never get raided, BBMC have AKs and scorpions they have never gotten raided. The proof is right there.
I'd put money that if K and Ramee played cop mad folks would get arrested. It's honestly just a PD skill issue and Hutch in his Tunnel vision is making every decision based on catching just CG. I bet he didn't even watch Patar and them test the PD guns they actually use and see the proof they're better
Gets a clue of what? That it's easier as a cop? He already knows that. Everything is handed to them and the only thing that holds cops back is their skill issue
@@MiguelG0690yeah and then they change server rules and shit to nerf K Town so nobody can go there to hang out or sell, all because a few cops cried. Yet ESB still has way more people and sales and is allowed..
Cops are just bad at the game for the most part and need the advantage to keep it interesting or they just get smoked..when they get to much of an advantage everyone complains..it is impossible to balance and make everyone happy..
PD needs to so more training and maybe pull off a successful raid and maybe shut down k town? Whats the point of doing undercover work at k town when you tried to raid it 5 times and failed. You have the warrants already its on pd to clear it out.
Shocker K is complaining?!?!?!? K hates losing & has to win all the time, & cops lose all the time. Where's the RP in that? If K doesn't get his way he cries about it bottom line. It's ok for K to do 7-12 car swaps & drugs that do instant heal, not to mention all the cars involved in ramming the cap out of the cops. It's ok for them to have everything but the cop can't have crap like different types of cars. At this point K you might as well just put all of PD on horse & brig in the paddy wagons when they have someone to transport to jail.
Hutch is extremely reasonable. Even if hes wrong i will always give him the benefit of the doubt. Every viewer cop or crim viewer should do the same. I truly believe he always has the best interests of the server at heart.
This is coming from a Kebun and CG viewer.
Thats how I feel too. Theres 0 malice from any of what he says, which is the most important thing
You must be new to watching him
@@RPCentral7 the cops should always have a small advantage, Hutch is right K is wrong, I have been a cg viewer since summit. Cg is on easy mode on Prodigy, the cops have been heavenly handicapped against gangs. My Cg now would get owned on Nopixel.
@@RPCentral7 I agree he has no malice but holy shit does he need a course on data analysis
sorry but hutch is wrong with this one if the suspect is down on the ground they no longer pose a threat so shooting them there is Excessive force and not valuing life. No pixel was 1000% shit because of cops granted hutch was playing Tarkov during all of the 4.0 shit so he never had to deal with it but cops only used AR's they would pit at 150mph they would open fire all the time with no reason and there was no limit to amount of cops on scene, Gang shit was nearly impossible cause as soon as shit popped off cops would roll in 20 deep and kill everyone. Fines were fucking massive ifaks were more broken than the drugs in this city and their cars were tanks not to mention they had actual tanks and jets and unlimited heli fuel with lock on tracking that didint break wih los
if the crims are using it as a reboot van to get back into the action instead of using it as a disengagement as Hutch claimed in the video, then what choice do cops have if everyone is just getting back up in the fight? Is that not abusing the system on the crims behalf? Might as will give a /revive option at that point.
the change of charges being more like nopixel and being more of a "soft ban" than just a short timeout and u can go back to playing/having fun on a GAME has changed crims's attitudes too imo as a viewer
cops executing crims while down is crazy irl or in game
News flash this isn't real life
@@joeypatterson5783 They are still a cop putting 2 in the back of the head of someone who cant fight back is wild it takes like 10 seconds to pick someone back up its not like they can get up on their own
@@joeypatterson5783they are roleplaying so it is supposed to be similar to real life
@@mattmatt4918 so driving off the top of a parking garage and driving away is similar to real life, what about any other jump, what about getting stabbed and shot daily and walking out of the hospital 5 min. later, that's pretty close to real life, right?
Hutch is mostly right but the cops do switch to s class to catch up otherwise when K catches them switching back and forth it isn’t from another chase. also like was said, criminals don’t have S class so when did they switch during a chase? It’s cope to think they don’t W chase with broken car modes
cop cars start in s by default so if they just pulled out the car they could've forgotten to swap down
@ I’ve watched multiple pov’s where they switch in and out of S class when they fall behind. Some officers get a talking to, some pull up and apologize when they get called out, but they do it more often than a couple times. Taking out S class is the best thing especially when there really isn’t S class cars in the city
I watched a cop "grab someone" get hit by a car but not let go and shove them into the back of a car.
Guarantee he wouldn't be talking like this In front of Kev
Crims are always going to complain when cops go out of their way to chase that W. People out here trying to act like cops and crims are playing the same game. Cops have absolutely nothing on the line, they have 0 risk, and they get pretty much the best of everything for nothing.. Hutch forgets sometimes what its like to be a crim, and how it feels to spend hours in jail when the cops act like gangs, and have 0 investment. At least when another crim guns you down you know they earned it.
hours? do you not realize the times for CG get cut by server management? they cannot get more than 8 hours unless its a murder charge. Crims decide to put themselves in shit situations, if cops are baiting then dont take the bait.
@@logicalknigh7969 8 hours is essentially docking them a day of pay irl. You have to understand, this not only costs them money but hours of grinding. Also they have put in months of progression to get where they are. When cops have none of that, the only hardship they have is not winning, which has absolutely no downside except to their ego.
There used to be this game called telephone where you would be given a message and you had to whisper the msg to another person. Then that person would whisper it to someone else and so on. The point being to see how the message changes over time. This is like telephone but only one person fucks the message all up.
Hutch does make some good points but he doesnt always like to entertain all sides. The health regen from the drugs is one of the few things that help balance the crim/pd shootouts, all things considered.
He also doesnt want to admit the PD is just shit with tactics. Theyve consistently been wiped, regardless of numbers and firepower, as if they never learn anything. Then it doesnt help that Hutch will come up with vague plans that send them into a buzz saw just so he can mald about how they dont listen. The devs buff their equipment to help the skill deficit but the equipment is only as good as the operator.
Comparing CG raid Sanguine to save Cain and the PDs attempt was like watching zero dark thirty vs delta farce. Hutch really demonstrated his tactical abilities there lol.
Love the RP tho
9MPH until you add that class S atop that.
Max Speed S-Class Cop 160
Max Speed A-Class Crim 141
Plus better grip/cornering/acceleration??
I dislike when Hutch makes excuses and talks around the circle playing Captain Get-a-long Gang.
What would solve the problem?? What Hutch started with defending and making excuses for in the first place. Cops refusing to play by rules and match class per pursuit.
Here's my question, why is it the cops responsibility to alter their car to match a crims during a chase, why aren't all the cars set to a certain class. So if a cop brings out a car that significantly slower than a crims car vise versa oh well, come prepared next time, then the whole argument that there are too many interceptors in my opinion will be valid. But to put a responsibility like that on the cop, then yeah you're just asking for it to be 1. Abused or 2. cops forget to switch, which I have seen multiple times on multiple different streamers, they don't try to abuse it for the most part, but just forget in the heat of the moment, and it's easy as the viewer to say and judge otherwise.
i honestly agree with hutch
Hutch's take is golden ASF here
Bro you're going to have a stroke. Why are you listening to chat lol
Hutch is right he just malds and leaves
one sided hutch lol.. he was 100% dif opinion in nopixel or when he plays crim.. dude just hates losing lol
yep... but lets be real its hutch, we all should have expected this. this PD would be 1000x better if timmac or mehdi were in charge
If they were smart, the cops wouldn't form these huge conga lines behind crims. You gotta have a lot of areas activey patrolled so if a highway blast occurs, there's always a unit ahead of them.
Clustering up down south at the pd isn't the play. It allows the crim to easily outrun the radio callouts.
I just don't get how he's defending people in S class by saying people forget to switch. Why are they in S begin with? No other cars they could possibly chase is S class.
"msnbZolo" is crazy lmfaooo hutch is so unserious "daddy gotchu" hes cooking
7:52 thats exactly how it is in Prodigy now
Lmfao right? They even have new tools that I'm pretty sure no pixel has NEVER had, prodigy cops are fckn INSPECTOR GADGET out here!😂😂 All the new super OP tools like the fckn GPS SHOOTING RIFLE THAT STICKS TO CARS😂😂 Honestly though I don't think things are overly unbalanced, mostly because cops can now be robbed which i have always thought was the dumbest rule ever.
I wish CG would go Civilian for a few months hehe would be so funny
let's wait for gta6 lol
Hutch is right in some ways. I’m dedicated to K, but hutch makes some good points.
Some of his points are great. Some are ridiculous too. Either way, it's a game and RP. In the end, it's all content.
My problem with hutch's takes are he doesnt compare apples to apples... he always compares apple to oranges and it just doesn't work. He does make some good points tho.
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:01 *🎯 Cop Shootouts and Handcuffing Controversy*
- Discussion of cops handcuffing players during active gunfights.
- Concerns raised about unfair tactics and responses from gang members.
- Emphasis on balancing gameplay mechanics between cops and criminals.
02:36 *💊 Overpowered Healing Mechanics*
- Observation of criminals using pills that heal instantly during fights.
- Critique of how this mechanic creates imbalance in gunfights.
- Call for reevaluation of game mechanics to ensure fairness.
04:20 *🔥 Cops' Rules in Gunfights*
- Explanation of server rules about downed mechanics and cops’ roles.
- Argument against reinstating outdated rules limiting cops' abilities.
- Advocacy for maintaining challenging gameplay for criminal players.
07:07 *🚔 Cops' Power Misuse vs. Balance*
- Reflection on past servers where cops abused power, contrasting current dynamics.
- Discussion of how cop gameplay is designed to ensure fair interactions.
- Criticism of players who misrepresent the state of cop gameplay.
09:13 *💼 Cops Targeting Specific Areas*
- Explanation of why cops patrol drug-heavy areas like K Town.
- Justification of actions based on in-game criminal activities and warrants.
- Refutation of claims that cops intentionally bait gunfights.
14:04 *🚗 Balance in Vehicle Mechanics*
- Detailed comparison of cop and criminal vehicles.
- Acknowledgment of differences in speed, durability, and acceleration.
- Call to adjust vehicle balance while maintaining fairness.
18:31 *🏎️ S-Class Vehicles and Gameplay*
- Suggestion to remove S-Class vehicles to simplify gameplay balance.
- Explanation of how S-Class cars disrupt fair chases.
- Advocacy for standardizing vehicle classes for cops and criminals.
24:30 *🛡️ Gunfight Baiting Accusations*
- Rejection of claims that cops bait gunfights intentionally.
- Assertion that actions are based on roleplaying responsibilities.
- Clarification of how misinformation spreads and impacts player perception.
26:20 *🤝 Tension Between Cops and Zo*
- Discussion about Zo’s complaints regarding cop interactions and actions during arrests.
- Claims of unfair treatment by cops, including accusations about evidence handling.
- Zo’s overreaction to perceived slights, escalating into a desire for retaliation.
28:12 *🔥 Zo’s Retaliatory Threats*
- Zo expresses frustration with specific cops, vowing to take matters into his own hands.
- Heated rhetoric about unleashing violence on the cops due to perceived mistreatment.
- Reflection on how Zo’s reactions often escalate into personal vendettas.
29:09 *🎭 Critique of Zo’s Overreactions*
- Lighthearted take on Zo’s tendency to spin situations into personal grievances.
- Commentary on how Zo’s response to minor incidents often leads to exaggerated retaliations.
- Frustration with inconsistent expectations from Zo about roleplay dynamics.
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what did the S cars do? and I thought the S cars are coming soon
But there are other hubs and u never stepping in there
U don’t sit in a place cus someone has a warrant ..u patrol the whole server wtf u saying
K is always right
Do cops ever go up north for the drug dealers?
Don't think so. I guess I saw vinny going North to check out how it is and nobody showed up because most of them were waiting around K Town to find reasons to escalate
they only chase CG during NA. need the views lets be real
Yep hell week coming soon😂
Ur cops u don’t murder someone 😂😂😂 but crims can murder cops yes ..how is that unfair ??
Restricting a 10v5 lmao
But cg was having a shootout with another gang, and cops just rolled up and start shooting, that’s baiting a shooting against the cops 🤷🏼♂️
Honestly I respect the boys but they're proving to everyone they have had beef with right. Everytime they either take an L or one of their members get slapped by the police they gotta go with order 66.
Zolo gotta run to daddy when he takes an L
Chases have been going on forever becuase pd lacks the skills to spike or pit and box cars. This is why swaps and blocks occur...the crims cars are getting outlasted by the broken pd cars so they require fueling up or a new car from it being broken from pits that arnt backed up with boxes. PD shouldnt automatically win a chase because they have 4 additionals that aint doing shit but chasing and hoping the criminal accidently breaks their car. Also Hutch it watching a PD bike be primary vs a sedan and shooting while driving. That is way beyond their SOPs. give an inch take a mile.
K should just play a cop for a while so his chat gets a clue. not a detective, an actual street cop.
That would prove his point even further. Him arguing the guns is correct, cop guns are better, Him arguing the cars he is also right the cars are better, him arguing the S class usage, he is right cops use S mode to catch up and switch down to A. Cops camping K town but refuse to go to mirror park or ESBC turf he is also right. If hutch wants to argue otherwise it’s incorrect look at the gang point in terms of drug sales Hades, ESBC, Refugees are all ahead in terms of drug sales so to sit here and say only drug sales happening are in K town is factually incorrect. Hutch saying only CG have police equipment is also incorrect, Hades and ESBC have all robbed cops and never get raided, BBMC have AKs and scorpions they have never gotten raided. The proof is right there.
I'd put money that if K and Ramee played cop mad folks would get arrested. It's honestly just a PD skill issue and Hutch in his Tunnel vision is making every decision based on catching just CG. I bet he didn't even watch Patar and them test the PD guns they actually use and see the proof they're better
Gets a clue of what? That it's easier as a cop? He already knows that. Everything is handed to them and the only thing that holds cops back is their skill issue
@@MiguelG0690yeah and then they change server rules and shit to nerf K Town so nobody can go there to hang out or sell, all because a few cops cried. Yet ESB still has way more people and sales and is allowed..
Cops are just bad at the game for the most part and need the advantage to keep it interesting or they just get smoked..when they get to much of an advantage everyone complains..it is impossible to balance and make everyone happy..
We need to make MSNBZOLO a thing XD
Because there is a server not Just cg lmao wtf
PD needs to so more training and maybe pull off a successful raid and maybe shut down k town? Whats the point of doing undercover work at k town when you tried to raid it 5 times and failed. You have the warrants already its on pd to clear it out.
Shocker K is complaining?!?!?!? K hates losing & has to win all the time, & cops lose all the time. Where's the RP in that? If K doesn't get his way he cries about it bottom line. It's ok for K to do 7-12 car swaps & drugs that do instant heal, not to mention all the cars involved in ramming the cap out of the cops. It's ok for them to have everything but the cop can't have crap like different types of cars. At this point K you might as well just put all of PD on horse & brig in the paddy wagons when they have someone to transport to jail.