No radio, no backup oxygen, no climbing partner, no instructions on his plans or when to expect his return, sits in a dark spot instead of by the ropes, sounds like suicide. Has there ever been any investigation into this possibility?
When you get at such an altitude. Your cognitive thoughts are irrational. There are stories of people who are climbing and doing well. Then out of nowhere, They sit down and dont move until they die.
Its so fucking deadly. Rich people think they can climb because its a socioeconomic achievement and money can buy then safety. And they end up dying because of status issues.
@@tomkenny5864 yes. They have other shows and he's in some of their books. I was just asking because of a discussion with my son in law who suggested it to me.
After watching numerous documentaries on Mount Everest, I think taking a photo from afar would be mission accomplished for me. My life is more precious than a mountain.
That's exactly what I did. I BOUGHT a photo of Everest (with summit) which was taken by satellite. I love looking at it and dreaming about it. The hell I'd kill myself to take my own photo!!
Thanks C Marie! I had to abort my trek to EBC because I was suffering from High Altitude Pulmonary Edema and had to be medically evacuated! I was able to take a picture of EVEREST from my bedroom window!
I’ve never climbed but from what it sounds like it’d be hell of a job to save ANYONE past a certain point. It’s so easy to say “save him” from your warm, cozy room
@@nenabunena People did try to help him, so did the very group Mark Inglis was in. Various climbers stopped like 5-6 times to try to help David. Different climbers part of a Turkish group stopped 4 times to try to help David, gave him oxygen, something to drink, radioed to other climbers in their group about David, and tried to help him to move. Climbers in the group Mark was a part of stopped and tried to help David to move. Some Sherpas from both groups stopped, gave David a bottle of oxygen and something to drink, tried to help him move, but realized it was a lost cause. It took the like a half hour just to move David 5 steps. It's practically impossible to rescue a climber with frozen limbs at that height. Did you watch the video?
@@nenabunena From what they say, your statement is inaccurate. However, you need to consider the context. There are no oxygen bottle shops in the submit. Each expedition sorts out their oxygen. You only give it away in extreme cases. Would you put yur own safety at risk by giving oxygen away to someone that you think is dead? Nonetheless, allegedly other did give him oxygen. Now, I can't see how you warm up in there. The video dedicated a part about the radio thing, but there was radio on the subject.
@@nenabunena they did call on the radio. Mr brice claims they didn't. It's all on film. Discovery also refused to hand over the footage to any authorities so we will never really know.
Sharp knew the risks he was taking. He was an experienced climber. I find it telling that his final words were his name, not save me. He knew he was dying. And his family seems to have no animosity towards the other hikers. I hope David Sharp is at peace and the world should let him be.
I agree with what you said, except for one item...experience. From what I gleaned in another documentary about Sharp, he was not very experienced. His only prior 8000 meter peak was on the easiest of them, Cho Oyu, and with a group. He allegedly had troubles reaching its summit. It is a huge jump to go from that to climbing Everest's far more challenging Northeast ridge, solo. As for rescue prospects, it is a knife edge ridge, a steep, sharp spine with cliffs on both sides. That negates any prospect of a rope assist descent of a disabled climber. They MUST descend under their own power.
@@attackhelicopter-up3dh I get your position, but only half agree with it. Yes, the normal, humane position is to do what one can. But at the same time, in such an extreme environment, one where you've physically/mentally exerted yourself for weeks acclimating, then spent days advancing up through successive camps, now have a few hours in the death zone before you will become disabled, I can understand maintaining tunnel vision towards the goal they've spent years training for and spent ~$50k just to put themselves in that position. I don't like it. But it's not fair to dump too much on them. Ordinarily, a climber joins a TEAM for good reasons. That includes the understanding that a team involves teamwork, including aid. Finding someone alone could easily be assumed as someone choosing not to summit but waiting for the rest of his team to return before descending. Also, from what I heard elsewhere, many of the climbers were focussed on each step on the ridge, the summit, and the dark, that they did not even notice someone tucked inside a cave to the side of their track. So, rather than heap a lot on the climbers, my view is 90% of the blame lies with Sharp for WILLFULLY stacking the odds against himself
I think anyone who climbs Everest is insane. What happened to David Sharp is tragic, but the responsibility for his death is his and his alone. To blame a double amputee for his demise is appalling. Would it have been heroic of another climber to have risked his life to save David? Absolutely. But you can’t fault someone when the difference between life and death is virtually no more than a hair’s breadth.
He chose the coldest night. He wasn't aware that would happen, but as per usual it's the weather that causes these things. Nobody is to blame. Sir Ed needs to pipe down, blaming a disabled man is about as low as you can possibly get.
if you die- or even get hurt people just don’t want to ever put blame on you even if it is their fault You’re not supposed to disrespect the dead but i believe if differently to be honest
The double amputee who couldn't even walk the full way back down (having to use a sled, and later carried) due to severe frostbite in his stumps, which he later had to have surgery to remove 3cm of length from, and was running out of oxygen, was supposed to save a man who was frozen solid, practically dead weight and who couldn't be carried more than 4 STEPS in 30 minutes by two experienced and strong able-bodied sherpas, from 8500m to base camp. Obviously he didn't do enough, he should've climbed Everest in an hour and used his superhuman strength and endurance to carry Sharp down before he froze into position and his own frostbite set in.
@@ActionableFreedom its the altitude Boris..duh! above 8000m Its not easy to carry a weight of a nearly dead men body in that steep dangerous mountain and Mark was only 200m away from the camp.. So use your brain
@@prityboro9999 It's completely baffling to me that people are having such a hard time understanding why someone couldn't just pick Sharp up and carry him down the side of freaking Mt. Everest.
I am 100% certain that David would not be mad or have blamed any of those men. He knew the risk, and it was a death sentence for anyone who tried to help.
@@delvinbonilla7618 theres really not, theres a small chance if there's an entire team going up with the sole purpose of rescuing someone, and that person still has to be able to walk to make it down even with all the extra assistance and oxygen. Sharp had thin gloves, only one bottle of oxygen as he didn't believe he needed it, no radio and didn't tell anyone when he was going or when he should be back. Not to mention when he was found he was severely frostbitten, his limbs were frozen and he couldn't communicate. It took two strong sherpas 20 minutes just to move him 4 steps as he was so frozen, it was fully impossible to rescue him
Cowboy seems one of those people that always helps someone in need. Him not being able to help David Sharp is probably something that'll torment him for the rest of his life. You can hear the anguish-don't feel ashamed Cowboy it just shows that you're a compassionate being.
@@maryduhon9769 so you're saying that just because he was upset about seeing another human being on the verge of death and not being able to help at all, that makes him weak minded?? I dont see the correlation..
He couldn't be saved he was about to die, it'd be a death mission for anyone trying to rescue others,even worse is that most deaths on everest are from people who tried to rescue others
I’m pretty sure it’s a known fact that once in the death zone you’re basically on your own. It’s also known that if you’re not coherent and able to walk at least to some degree you can’t be helped. There have been exceptions, but that’s the general rule. It wasn’t anyone’s fault that man died. It’s tragic, but no other climber’s fault. Certainly not a single individual who was also a double amputee. He was the last person who could’ve done anything. It was an awful tragedy and nobody on that mountain was responsible.
The outrage industry doesn’t care about facts. Once one article is written, all the “journalists” rush to breathlessly parrot the original condemnation. 10x worse now.
@@bIametheniIe exactly! Mark had to be carried down part of the mountain himself, as his stumps were wearing down to the bone and bleeding. When he got home, he had to have his legs amputated even further due to frostbite. The blame placed on this man is completely absurd, and clearly coming from people who have no idea what the situation was actually like on the mountain that day.
It WAS someone’s fault. His own. Can’t die there unless you GO there. And anybody that actually goes there knows as much as all of us commenting on here. The important part being that you can fucking die trying this and that past a certain point, nobody can ‘help’ you.
@@tsti1es I disagree. I can’t imagine that’s an easy decision to make when you see somebody like that & with no mountaineering experience, who are we to judge what they should’ve or could’ve done. and David Sharp obviously went on that mountain without the proper gear knowing the choice he was making when he decided to do that. He chose not to bring a radio knowing if something went wrong, there was nothing that could be done. It’s easy to judge when we’re looking at this on a phone or a TV and not there in person to experience the fatigue and lack of oxygen, our bodies basically only at the point of helping ourselves.
@@tsti1es it's not like they didn't care, they just weren't physically capable of helping. if they got stuck somewhere, that would've put more people's lives in jeopardy and there could've been even more deaths that day. trying to help someone while you're also fighting for your life isn't going to help anything
@@Mavthehuahua Asian trekking had a responsibility. Like the man said the company is sherpa owned and has sherpas on the mountain that should have started the rescue after the first call to base camp.
I'm always saddened to hear of a climber losing his or her life, and I respect their courage....but I'm also reminded that the climber put themselves in that situation. In fact, they walked themselves into that situation. They walked all the way to the place they died. It's cases like these that make me question why climbing a mountain is worth dying for.
Well if anything, dying is only inevitable. So maybe dying while doing what you absolutely love is not a bad way of living. Some may do it for pride, which is quite sad but for those who love doing it because it makes them experience live more, it doesn't seem so bad. Also death from hypothermia is scientifically one of the least painful way of dying.
I think part of the reason they climb is they assume tragedy is going to happen to someone else. Rob Hall knew tragedy was going to happen in 1996, but he assumed it was going to happen to another team (most likely the Taiwanese). However, most of the deaths that year were from Hall's team.
For attempting a rescue like that, they'd need a big team of top climbers with the sole porpuse of attempting said rescue. Even with that, if the climber can't move at all or is barely concious, it would be an impossible task. And you're telling me that people end up blaming a man with two prothesic legs? What kind of madness is that?
The people organising the expedition, taking over 65 thoysand US thousands dollars from each of these climbers every year, should have such a team on call for these kinds of rescues around the clock. This everest thing is a huge exploitation of people who kind of deserve it
Also. Just playing devil's advocate here. But Mark would've been expecting a rescue himself after his stupid decision to ascend Mt Cook. He was happy for others to put their lives at risk to rescue him. Lucky the helicopter pilots survived and were able to rescue him in the end. However some of the comments seem a bit hypocritical and overlook this point. Which I think is valid.
@@ZZ-mh2nv I agree with the exploitation part, but i don't think anyone let's you die on Everest. There have been a lot of cases where people were saved, but it's not always the same context.
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@@ZZ-mh2nv Even to save people there, at 8000 m, you need to think about yourself first. What is the point in save someone and die yourself? If you die when youre rescue someone, the person will die too. And up there is so cold, the air is so hard do breath and your moves are all slow that you cant carry more then your own weight and a bag. O2 is limitated, you cant spent more energy then you have, and you need to move someone in bad condition in hard field with a lot of obstacles ... even the most experience ones cant do that, especially if the person cant walk or breath. Even all the money in world or the more experience guy cant help or save people in this situation.
@@ZZ-mh2nv That would be impossible & dangerous. If every expedition had a rescue group it would almost double the amount of people on the mountain & just slow down movement between high altitude camps adding to exposure time. If you are in a bad situation on the summit ridge you will only seriously risk sherpas lives on doomed rescue attempts.
I’m dumbfounded that the blame for the death of an able-bodied climber who chose to summit on his own, with no oxygen, at a time of day that would put him at greatest risk, and consequently (one might argue inevitably) got into a state where he simply couldn’t be rescued due to being immobilized by hypothermia & then died - would lie solely (& publicly) on a double amputee & his team of 3 other climbers (without sherpas) who acknowledged that they weren’t equipped to rescue him, and that indeed nobody would be, because David was unable to move. If you can’t move at all (even with assistance) when you’re in the death zone, nothing can be done for you. Is this not the first rule of Everest? How would Sir Ed not know this? How could he single out a double amputee & publicly shame him for not rescuing David, when in fact he ultimately had to be rescued himself? It’s absolutely mind boggling!
Older generations always believe themselves superior to the younger ones. I doubt he'd've been able to do anything different in that situation. Not to mention he hadn't been in the death zone in literal decades, so the reality of the situation was probably distorted in his head.
@Krysta’s English …. agree 💯% … David was unable to be rescued … truth be known, he would have known that too.. There were those who paused and acknowledged him, one mountaineer, I can not remember his name gave him a gentle touch… very sad but those who take on challenge of this great mountain know all the risks and consequences. I hope Sir Ed, after the fact … felt that he was wrong to call out Mark Inglis because he was wrong to do so.
My brother was a rock climber for the Australian national rock climbing team and one day I remember Mark coming to the climbing gym to give a talk to the team. He was such a humble and caring man- he really inspired everyone, he gave up his whole day to give support & advice to everyone, even the family members of the climbers... anyone who speaks badly of him has obviously never met him. On top of that he raises money for multiple charities and even does research for curing leukaemia. Also attempting a rescue at that height would be suicidal for anyone, not to mention an amputee and disabled mountaineer. David also did not take any of the needed resources to stay safe, he risked his life by his own choice and its not fair to blame anyone else for his death which was caused by his own choices.
His last words were to identify himself. He knew he was going to die, was expecting it. He didn't say "help, don't leave me". So I don't think he expected others to do anything else than what would be done for the imminently dying.
Sherpas are not angels, they’re people like everyone else some good some bad, but they definitely do deserve way more respect for what they do and the ability they have to do it.
Unbelievable that Sir Edmund criticized Ingles. Sharp decided to climb on his own. Certainly a double amputee couldn’t help him. Max, a Lebanese man who had just summited with Brice’s team even tried giving him some of his oxygen but couldn’t rouse him. Max comes down sobbing because he was torn about Sharp just being left there. It’s too bad that his summit will forever be marred by this tragedy. But when you climb you are told to be prepared for death. You may have a guide with you but they cannot drag you down if you can’t walk. Guides need to POUND that into a members head.
It needs to be on a written contract that each climber must sign. "I understand fully that I am responsible for myself on the mountain, both getting up and getting down. I absolve XXXX Company of any and all responsibility for getting me off the mountain should I become incapacitated at any point, and I understand that no other climber on the expedition is responsible for me in any way." My god, you have to sign such a thing when you rent a horse to go on a trail ride, or you want to ride the bumper cars at a circus.
I am 100% sure that you have never climbed a mountain before. Stop talking as if you really know what you're talking about. You're merely watching videos about the subject matter on RUclips like everybody else, you're not an expert on mountaineering ma'am so settle down lol.
As sad as any death is, when it comes down to it, if you die on Everest, you’re the only one at blame. Nobody has the strength to carry someone down the mountain, climbers know this when attempting to climb and they also know there’s a chance of dying. If you can’t walk/climb while there, to put it simply, you’re screwed.
Actually, although not contaminating water supplies, bodies are being revealed, some decades after their deaths, as climate change causes glaciers and layers of snow to melt. The Nepalese and Tibetan govts are trying to remove the accessible ones when this happens but the majority (200+) are located in the Death Zone, in an area called Rainbow Valley, and cannot be removed bc they're essentially frozen to the mountain.
How is it possible that these critics are blaming other climbers for Mr. Sharp's risks HE took regarding HIS climb? What's worse, is these critics are blaming a man with prosthetic legs for not hoisting David up and bringing him down! What the hell!?
Blaming mark is more silly than sharp going for a summit push alone with nobody and no radio, nobody’s fault especially a double amputee that barely made it back down himself
Correct, however Mark is crazy. Ed was right about that. Hard enough for people with actual legs. He would have died on his own, just like David Sharp.
@@Alan-ej6wb I mean most experienced alpine climbers. It seems the problem with Everest cemetery growth has been there are no standards or qualifications set, just ability to pay. Traffic jams and accidents due to inexperience are only going to increase. It is a big mess and of course money corrupts even the purest things in life.
@@stephenking4794 From what I heard he literally wasn't alone, because everyone kept walking past. But, it's the death zone, rules down here don't apply up there.
Sir Ed, did you believe a man with no lower legs was to blame for that mans death. David Sharpe broke every rule in the book so it was no other climbers fault.
Joyleen Poortier He was never to blame, just because Hillary who as far as I know never saved anyone. Says it was gastly was a pure idiot even if he did climb it! Sharp made 2 many mistakes!
If he wanted to point out that even in the Everest it would be nice to have some support between climbers, he particularly choose a very bad case to make his point.
Look at Rob Hall they couldn't get him off the mountain and he was able to talk to people but when you're that high up you know the risk. No one should blame anyone period
From what I have read, seen and heard Rob Hall was a heroic fool. He should have left Doug Hansen as soon as he realized that Hansen was almost literally a dead man walking. Now he died together with Hansen and took Andy Harris more or less with him.
@@milip7853 Rob Hall died because he took Hansen's side when Sherpa Ang Dorje was trying to get Hansen to descend. A stupid decision that probably got Hansen, Harris and himself killed.
@@milip7853 thats why rob hall is remember and mark isnt. Rob knew what his job was. Bet he would do it again to. Walking by someone in need to fulfil your own goal is like super fucked
So people expected a double amputee who took all the necessary safety precautions to risk his life helping an able bodied climber who cheaped-out on his expedition prep and decided to climb alone? In what universe does that make sense?
Absolutely! Sharpe was an idiot who broke all the rules like a clueless moron and paid the price. Entirely his own fault, nobody owed him a thing simple as that
Have you heard of the guy who actually tried to snowboard down Everest? He said it was the holy grail of snowboarding downhill. Many people including Sherpa's tried to convince him it was too sketchy, but he ignored them and proceeded to snowboard down Everest never to be seen again. I honestly believe he fell down a hidden crevasse, or went off a cliff. Either way he is a part of the Everest for eternity 😔
That story abut the snow boarder , experts said that area he came had no Crevasses , which may be true , but any type of serious injury could be very dangerous, I think either a injury or a avalanche got him, It could have been exhaustion , but at his age and strength. I doubt even being tired would have stopped him. I would guess a avalanche,like what unfortunately killed his brother..or he could have damaged his snowboard, like the bindings , it. Doesn’t take much to happen that could stop him. That whole trip was a rush ,and he should have waited for his original guide,that he used on his first ascent. And not been In Such a hurry under bad weather conditions.
I watched a documentary about that young man. He ignored all warnings not to go up. He lost his big brother to a climbing accident and his mother begged him not to go. I think he snowboarded right off the mountain or into a crevass and was covered with snow via a small avalanche. We will never know.
You're forgetting the part where he actually _did_ it. He did it once successfully and lived. Then he thought "let's do it again, but take an even harder route." Then he waited until there was even more snow, later in the season when it's more dangerous. He was probably always going to die there. He could never let it be one and done.
This whole thing makes me wonder why people do this. I understand the amazing reward of reaching the summit after pushing your limits and being on top of the world literally, but no other part of this seems even slightly enjoyable. You walk past dead bodies, feel sick, cold and completely exhausted and even when you finally reach the summit you're probably worried about frostbite and how you're going to make it back down without dying. Definitely not the greatest risk/reward ratio I've ever come across.
Counterpoint: one night I watched about 500 nightclubbers walk past a homeless person camping rough in -11F, and I was the only one who called emergency, and they were angry about it. This happens in cities too. Maybe worse morally.
@@fredrickmartinez7047 Self-righteousness isn’t a virtue. Patting yourself on the back for being what you perceive as a “better” person than others is something else... You have no idea why those other people didn’t call emergency. Maybe they see that same homeless man camping every night in such weather, or they’ve called before and nothing happened.... many possibilities.
That's why it's understood that the guy without oxygen shouldnt expect help if they go down and can't get up. If I was foolish enough to go without oxygen I would let it be known that no one should risk their life trying to save me
@@ringofasho7721 You may feel differently when it actually happens, and you're actually on the ground freezing to death, than you do from your keyboard in your warm house. Just saying.
Binge watching Everest Videos. What I took away from this sad story is, when you choose the cheapest option to climb the highest point on earth, you have to live or die with the outcome.
Well, it's pretty much the same if you pay top dollar to climb with a very reputable company. There are some situations, such as the one David Sharp was in, where only God could save you.
Incredible documentary. Thank you for sharing! Mark was NOT responsible, just as the other summiters were not responsible. Sharpe was responsible for himself. I maintain the belief that he went up there knowing he’d die.
Near the summit unable to move is a tragedy but trying to help him down would lead to more deaths this is why its called the death zone.You must get to the summit celebrate briefly and get down as fast as you can which is slow as you are exauhsted even with oxygen.There is no room for error at this altitude.Going alone on Everest was a huge mistake! He took the chance and lost sad but true.
Cowboy’s got a really big heart, he’s so human; he reminds me of a close friend, good buddy of mine I lost on a deployment. He was so worried about everyone else right up to the end, he didn’t care he was going. Very sad.
@@TheTelblackwell that's not cowboy. Cowboy was the one climbing the mountain, and said in his interview something like "I just wanted to reach out and touch him" when they were passing David.
I hold the media accountable for manipulating an elderly Sir Ed into comments that would have broken the hearts of many mountaineers especially Mark Inglis, enraging the ignorant public and using Davids death as leverage to create this toxic story.
I'm not a climber, but from an early age I've been fascinated by Everest. Have read some books and watched numerous videos about it. That shot of Sharp going up on his own at that time of day, kind've says it all. What could the team in their condition and in the dark, possibly do, except kill themselves. How many incapacitated climbers or bodies have been brought down from where Sharp and the Indian climber are? I assume most of the backlash against the team was started by, and encouraged by, the know-nothings in the media.
There were multiple attempts to help him once they realized he wasn’t dead. The problem was it was very dark when he was initially in trouble and no one saw him. People who did see him thought he was dead because he wasn’t moving or talking or they mistook him for green boots. He went up completely unprepared and recklessly. His mom even said she doesn’t blame anyone for not helping him. And the problem also was he was in the death zone for a long time and if you can’t walk yourself somewhat out of the death zone you are going to die there because rescue or even body recovery just isn’t possible in the death zone. It is every man for themself to an extent He went up there with no radio, no guide, no emerge supplies and no oxygen. He set himself up for failure and unfortunately his death. I strongly disagree with Edmund Hillary. The amount of manpower they would need to get him down just wasn’t possible especially in the death zone. You also have to be mobile enough to aide in your own rescue. David was well past that point. Yes he is a human being but so are the other climbers and their lives matter too. Rescue attempts would have put them in danger. By the time they were trying to help him it was too late. If they had found him earlier maybe they could have attempted but they didn’t. It was dark and he wasn’t moving and it was well known green boots was in that cave. I do commend Sharpe for saying before he understands rescue attempts may not be possible and said it’s okay to prioritize yourself over saving me
Liar. Sharp was connected to the static line they were all using. Every one of the climbers had to bend down and reconnect to get past him. They were all 2 feet from him. Stop lying to yourself.
I honestly feel like when your team mate is running low on oxygen on the way UP you should tell them to go back and even offer to go with them to keep them safe. Your humanity matters more than reaching the summit.
Also, easier said than done when you are 30k ft above sea level than being in the comfort of home in front of a laptop!
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your life is in dangerous too. All them are adult persons, with capacity to know the risk. He knew make a solo climb and with no support can result in death. Isnt just about humanity, is about stay alive and take the risks. If you go there and need to choose save your life or save another person life, im sure you will choose yourself, and this dont make you less human. Stay alive at 8000m, trying to take care or save a sick person who cant move or dont have energy is the same as kill yourself. 1 - Its so much Cold 2- You cant breath properly 3- limited O2 support 4- weather conditions can change in less then a 1min 5- Hard and dangerous field. 6- If you dont be fast in go out there you can have a lot of problems and die too. Up there you can just take care about yourself. Isnt humanity issue, isnt about be more human, is about know the risks and take responsability about everything that can make your life stay in danger.
People have worked years up on years to achieve their goal. Don’t forget they pay thousands to get up in the peak. I mean people just go into pilotmode
It’s too bad that some members get “summit fever” and refuse to turn around. The guides have to convince them they need to leave before they are incapacitated. Brice’s members and guides always had a very strict turn around time I think of 1:30. They can see the summit but they have been out there too long and their oxygen will run out before they get down if they don’t abide to that turnaround time.
I am lying on my bed with mobile on my hand and connected to WiFi. Do I qualify as an expert.yes I gathered my knowledge from yt videos never went to mountains.
I remember when this story hit 15 years ago and all the uproar. I thought then David Sharp knew exactly what he was getting into. I still believe that today.
He knew. AMS can hit differently every time you hit the death zone is the problem. Pair that with summit fever it's almost impossible for them to remain rational with their decision making
While I felt sad on how Sharp died, I sympathized more with the other climbers who tried to help him. I'm kinda crtitical of Sharp now, because it was his third expedition to the Everest and still didn't learn from his last experiences regarding to take supplementary oxigen. If it was a goal of his to reach the summit of Everest, he would've taken that priority first instead of adding difficuty on how to get there (not taking extra oxigen and going solo). And this relates to day-to-day life: We think we can do everything on our own without considering the risks. Sometimes, knowing the extent of our limitations and get a little help doesn't hurt.
Reminds me of a doc i saw on K2 where a guy had died after falling from the bottle neck, and some guys (i think 4) who didnt try to summit went up to bring him back to camp 4 and burry him. But as they were lowering him down the mountain someone slipped and pulled everyone (cos they were tied together), ended up with another person dead because of it (lucky it wasnt more actually). One of the guys was crying angrily because now they lost another. Sometimes its just not worth it!
Except this rescue attempt actually probably saved 2 people's lives. Only 1 person (Fred) went UP to try to get the dead man (because he thought the man was still alive), and 3 people from the summit-bound group went back DOWN to get him. The one that ultimately fell in the rescue was one of the ones who turned back, and unfortunately it is highly likely that he was suffering from mountain sickness (couldn't walk without continuously falling on Fred, never attempted to stop his own fall, wasn't responding to instructions, etc). So, who knows, that guy probably would have died anyway if he had continued on to the summit while he was already so out of it and at least the two that went down with him were spared being stuck up there when the icefalls started.
It happens a LOT. On that same trip, 2 Sherpas were forced to try to rescue some of the Korean team. They were killed by ice fall that was known to be happening at the time.
Sharpe was just too far gone. Another team gave him oxygen and 2 Sherpas tried to get him down, but they couldn't get him beyond the entrance to the cave. He just collapsed so they moved him back inside before they left. That was all anyone could do.
I think that it is very kind of other climbers and sherpas to give palliative care to a dying person beyond rescuing that high on the mountain. He was not disregarded in my opinion.
@@michellebeynon7811 Actually, last I read Green Boots body was moved and pushed further down the mountain side, out of sight. They do this with a lot of bodies.
@@fatalexception1269 Yes I read something like that too recently, very sad. But my understanding was it’s very difficult to move the bodies because they became part of the mountain. So I wasn’t sure. Didn’t he get pushed over the Chinese side ?
@@goldenniblings ...it was touching to know Sherpas tried to help David S. To see that one climber pause a few moments and place his hand on David Sharpe whilst saying a prayer over him... speaks volumes of a man with substance.. in my eyes.
I've climbed a few smaller mountains in North America but also mountains around 5800 meters in the Andes and believe me, putting a step in front of the other at that altitude was already such a phenomenal effort, I can't imagine trying to help someone get down at 8500 meters 😱
Yes it is because you have been through that. Walking alone is a challenge. Above 8000m at those atmosphere even helicopters can't rescue. Moving him to camp4 was only possible if someone had spare oxygen and the victim could move but in this case he was only taking his last breaths
David Sharp was possessed by his ambition to summit Everest and No one should be blamed for anothers goals. David Sharp was driven and driven to climb by himself and do what he loved. Everyone knows what risks they are taking on and to blame a Stumpy is absolutely insane and Sir Edmund is off the mark. Just because he was alive the assessment of the ability and probability of conducting an operation to save him were too great.
RIP David Sharp... The other climbers had no choice or die themselves... I'm sure David understood that, such a tragic story.. But David Sharp knew the risks, sad but true.. RIP mate... X
I'm not a climber, but it seems to me that everyone who attempts to climb Everest knows the rules and the risks, and thwarting those rules or ignoring those risks are done at your own peril. While it is sad that people have lost their lives, they either knew what they were getting into, and chose to ignore advice, or didn't do enough research and/or training. I live in Phoenix, Arizona, and we have people, often within a group, die almost weekly on our local mountains due to the heat, despite plenty of signs, warnings, and advice along the trail. Ditto the Grand Canyon. Mother Nature doesn't f*ck around.
Why did he get the blame for not doing anything to help about 30 people walked past him and yet he a person with both his legs gone gets the blame. He had no chance of helping no one did but definitely not him
Somehow I picked up Jon Krakauer's book "Into Thin Air" about 20 years ago. It should be required reading before anyone makes a comment about what anyone else should do when attempting an Everest summit. It's also a great read about a real event. Finished it in one night, couldn't put it down. And now, I shut my mouth and say a silent prayer for the deceased on Everest and the Sherpa community who call the mountain Chomolungma......."Mother of the World"
Need to get hold of all the books written by the ones who experienced the 1996 tragedy. Then you will understand the whole big picture of how it happened.
I recommend watching the Lincoln Hall story. He was thought to be dead then woke up hours later alone with no supplies or equipment and survived days in the death zone delirious.
It would of been impossible to save David Sharp. Two strong experienced Sherpas tried and quickly realized it couldn’t be done. It’s called the “death zone” because if you can’t keep moving you perish. Once, exhaustion sets in and you physically can’t move, you die.
People who are appalled and distraught at the thought of abandoning a dying person at that altitude forget one thing. Above 8000 meters everybody starts dying. Oxygen tanks, mountain clothing, and dexamethasone only TEMPORARILY staves off death and buys you enough time(hopefully) to summit and descend.
You can only do so much especially when you are battling a mountain, coldness, and lack of oxygen. Rest easy to the people who have lost their lives to the mountain.
In lifesaving they point out "don't just jump in to rescue a drowning man". If you also get into trouble there are now either two to rescue or two deaths not just one. Unless you are in a position to make a safe rescue it is better not to be foolhardy. Surely this applies here just as much.
@@Nyquil5 - I've learned that from watching the lifeguards at Bondi Beach on their TV show. Hugely dedicated to saving lives, they are acutely aware that they need to stay alive as well and they conduct their rescues accordingly.
I'm not a climber but just in general it's real easy to criticize someone else when its not you in the situation. I've met alot of "if it was me" and "well I would've done this" people. They talk big because they know they'll never be in that situation
So many issues. Another thing is why would someone who lost two legs after being stuck in a cave by the summit for 13 days, had to be rescued by people who were lucky to survive rescuing him, go back and put more people at risk again. In the cumbrian fells, a man from liverpool camps on red screes, needs rescuing because of a heart condition, a rescuer suffers life changing injuries and the rescuee receives a 200 pound fine. I do not think he should ever be allowed on fells again, and if does and needs rescuing should be left to suffer the consequences of risking it again.
He was a former search and rescue mountaineer himself!! And he nearly died for it, it is plain madness to say this man is nothing short of a brave hero!
I think sir Ed's 2 cents was uncalled for and unfair.David Sharp knew what he was doing and knew the risks involved. At least 30 people passed him and not one of them could do anything to help him or help get him down. To single out Mark Inglis and call him out publicly was flat out wrong.
For all those who criticized the ones who didn’t help, I would like to see you go up there and help someone. You wouldn’t be able to do anything without the extra gear to carry the deadweight of another human being. There’s a reason entire teams have gone to recover single bodies..
The WHOLE POINT is WE dont want to climb a mountain! We also dont want to race motorcycles, jump out of planes, bungee jump into the Grand Canyon, climb the Empire State Bldg., fight a cage full of pythons, scuba to a deep cave under the ocean, etc. Because WE value our lives, family, and friends.
You will never understand. There are those of us who love adventure and the risk is small compared to the enjoyment. I never considered my love of motorcycle riding would put me in the same danger zone as jumping into a cage full pythons but Who knows, maybe it is. We are all mortal. We all pass on. Taking risks and dying doing what you love; well that’s just something we risk takers are willing to accept.
When you chose a sport that includes stepping over dead people, using bodies for land markers and leaving dying people behind..you almost gotta expect criticism from people who could never conceive having to do such things.. it's taboo
It’s very sad indeed but definitely no ones fault. This was David’s third time, he knew the risks, the climate, not taking oxygen and doing it solo is almost arrogant, not respecting the elements which is pretty much rule one. They had experience in seeing this, it was too late and they needed to look after the living. Rip David, so sad.
Even if there was a chance of being able to help, no one was under any obligation to lift a finger. Conditions were/are so dangerous that your risk increases even with a few seconds’ delay, therefore you should have 100% choice over how much risk you personally want to take. And David knew EXACTLY the ENORMOUS risk he was getting into (for that reason, I don’t blame Asian Trekking either).
The guy with the prosthetic legs? What an amazing human being. This could’ve been completely about him. Spent the first 25 minutes wondering if I had heard the man right. Is this real footage?
they should all have a meeting at the start, where a mutual agreement is made. "we're all crazy people doing a crazy thing. every man for himself (if need be), and leave everything in the hands of this mountain's creator, who cares not if you're a believer." I am no daredevil, nor am I very religious. but mountain climbing is something nobody's forced into. climbers love what they're doing, and must accept any of it's possible outcomes.
I can’t imagine how incredibly painful it must have been for those guys to recognize they could not save him and would have to leave or risk their own deaths too :( and it’s not like they didn’t try, they realized he was too far gone for them to do anything.
@@lucylocket5774 how can they take him down when he cant even move that too near the summit as rob hall quotes "if u are stuck at the top of everest you may well be stuck on moon"
@@lucylocket5774 yea but even if u stay ita near impossible in helping if they cant walk which makes the moral compass useless other than logic yea but it is tough to leave someone to death knowing we cant do ntng
What a shitty take from Ed. What were they supposed to do? Put the guy on their shoulders and walk him down? That just can’t happen. You literally can’t blame them for not bringing him down, thinking otherwise is just absurd. Lost a bit of respect for Ed for saying that.
These are tour operators. The real problem is that their customers have paid good money to be carried to the top of Everest. Stopping to save someone's life would be a dereliction of contract for the paying customers. Which makes it even more disgusting.
I don’t think he blames them for David dying. think, it’s more that they didn’t even try to help. A lot of respect to those sherpas that did try... maybe if they were the ones that had found him so many more hours earlier he might have been more responsive and things would have ended differently or maybe it was a lost cause. But it is crazy what willpower can do, I mean, somehow an Everest summit under even more brutal than normal conditions as a double amputee is possible
@dale gribble not really. you still can’t have helicopters fly that high to save anyone down. you are on the edge of dying just to drag your own body weight down . what can one do?
bottom line is … everyone knows once you’re up there and on oxygen, there isn’t much you can do to help others in distress. You’re at your limits just helping yourself. Any n everyone who climbs those mountains knows the rules. If u can’t help yourself…you’re dead. blame nobody but yourself
David Sharp climbed alone, no oxygen, no radio, no extra batteries apparently, and somehow other people are to blame for not risking their life and rescuing him, which was near impossible if not impossible. David Sharp was responsible for David Sharp, no one else.
I only have one observation here. Dude's trying to do it pure, okay. Dude didn't leave and wiggle room for error, and the concept of it ACTUALLY going wrong never crossed his mind. My observation is loosely based on the picture of guy still sporting a goatee. When you are at altitude having a proper seal of skin to mask makes even more of a difference because of the outside pressure. When you take a breath, you aren't so much sucking air in as having your lungs inflated by the atmosphere. When you are on oxygen you are adding a content critical gas, but not much pressure. Breathing is labored partly because now you ARE having to suck in air, and the air you are sucking in is far less dense, meaning lower gas content. With a leaking mask, you wind up wasting a ton of gas directly to the atmosphere. So guy wants to climb pure, but he also set everyone else up to fail in rescue should Mr. Murphy rear his ugly head. In a sense, it comes down to "How much are we supposed to get in the way of you getting the Darwin Award you seem to so dearly wish to attain?"
My understanding from this film is that David Sharp carried on to the summit too late in the day - something he would have known. He literally walked into the twilight zone willingly. Not thinking straight.
Above a certain altitude, rescue of a fully disabled person is impossible, literally. Anyone who goes up Everest knows and accepts the risk. The public did not know or understand this. Yes, return whatever can be brought down of the deceased’s effects. But understand the mountain herself is his tombstone. Those who hike mountains like Everest are like soldiers in combat. Death and burial where you fall are risks you take.
its nothing close to combat. drama queen. you are trying to fabricate glory and bravery. its JUST foolishness and privilege. bravery is actually fighting and standing up to PEOPLE and unexpected danger.
Edmund Hillary went down in my estimations when I heard the way he blamed Mark Inglis for not helping David Sharp. Nobody should have known better what it's like up there than Edmund Hillary. At that altitude, it's physically impossible to drag a climber that cannot walk down the mountain. Blaming a man with no legs really was a step too far.
I’m not a mountaineer, but I absolutely understand that if you are not able to self rescue in the dead zone, there is almost no way that someone else will be able to change the outcome. It is truly the same as trying to rescue an astronaut on the moon using only a radio.
David Sharp story reminds me of the Nepali Canadian lady, both of their deaths were blamed on others. No one realizes how frikin stupid decisions they both made. As someone who has done 4 8000ers, i would advice anyone who listens to go with people whom you can trust. When you decide to go alone, YOU are responsible for whatever happens to you over there. No one else.
Yes, Sharp shoulders a majority of moral failure in the scenario. Maybe his mind was not making rational decisions that fateful day he continued alone too late into the afternoon. His expedition company shares moral and organizational failure in not insisting that others be with him in the death zone to force a rational decision if his mind was gone. Still, the dozens of people passing Sharp by in the early morning hours have a share in the moral failure too. Ascents could have been canceled in an attempt to share enough O2 to get him moving again. Organizationally, Sagarmatha National Park and Nepal authorities fail to provide clear rules for canceling summits in a rescue scenario.
If you see dead people on Everest you obviously continue for that summit, it's no secret it's dead people everywhere. But seeing someone who's dying? I don't know, rough...it's hard for first time climbers to know what to do exactly, it's up to the expidition leaders to make the call. Spend a bit of time trying to get him warmed up by rubbing his body and stuff, talk to him a lot, make sure he knows someone's there for him atleast. But they didn't even touch the man? that's what i find kind of disturbing...
I think if someone is dying I’d ask them if they have any last words or a message to be sent to a loved one. I’m not sure it’s realistic to save his life or carry him down the mountain, but they could’ve offered him last rites or a prayer. Seems inhumane to not even acknowledge a living/dying soul. Just my opinion. Easier to judge (from a place of ignorance) since I haven’t been in that situation.
This is a tragic incident and people are always looking for someone to blame. I hope David can rest in peace and I hope Mark has moved past this and lived without guilt. I truly don't think anyone is at fault, especially not Mark who accomplished an amazing feat being a 2x amputee. David knew the risk he was taking and I don't think he would've wanted others to take undue risk on his behalf either.
Edmend hilliary is eathier high age has warped his memory. Its phsycally impossible to bring him down what part of that is so hard to understand. Someone tried to rescue him media blew it out of perporsion
Edmund Hillary's criticism was completely inappropriate bc he knew it was impossible to rescue an incapacitated person from that location. His anger should have been focused on climbers, like Sharpe, that take unnecessary risks as they're a danger to themselves and others.
David Sharp’s death was tragic. As are all deaths on Everest. I’ve never been on Everest and I never will be. I live in a state with the average altitude of 100 ft. above sea level. I’d never make it to even base camp. I’m not so uninformed to even begin to think I could or would ever try. But I feel the exhilaration of those who do summit. I’m happy for them. I’ll happily share in their exhilaration. I also feel heartbreak for those that lose their lives there. It’s tragic and awful. But it’s also a yearly fact. You are truly taking your life in your own hands. Quite literally. Rest In Peace David Sharp and all others who have died on that mountain.
the true heroes here are the sherpas... nobody says anything about them being the first men to reach the summit. Sir Ed didn’t do it by himself and he gets all the credits... No hate here just statin facts
I saw someone say it's only an achievement when a guy from the west makes it to the top first, but I'm sure people from that country were the first people to summit everest
Every experienced climber knows the risk that they are taking. Every time they try to rescue somebody up there it's a huge undertaking that puts a lot of other people's lives at risk.
I've never climbed a mountain before so I know nothing about mountaineering, but I have grown up in nature, and the first thing I was taught was to always respect it. Nature isn't something you can just "conquer" and summiting a mountain doesn't mean you've "conquered" it. Not to say mountaineering doesn't take skill and tenacity, I know I don't have the balls to try it, but it seems like a lot of people (mountaineers or not) both in the past and in the present have this arrogance about them and it really bothers me.
EXACTLY right! But NO ONE knows them! And no one is impressed! They saw rocks, ice, and a view before they had to struggle back down to face a family and friends who knew the climber didnt consider them worth living for. Why should anyone rescue someone like that when they dont value them either?!! 😅😅😅
I lost ALL respect for Ed, blaming a double amputee for not helping someone who made his own stupid choices to summit mid day instead of early morning with everyone else. He knew the risks he did it anyway and sadly didnt make it. Its Sad for his family but it was nobody's fault but Sharpe's. Shame on hillary for talking down on this man who looked up to him. I also commend Him for raising money for charity with his climb thats amazing and a wonderful cause
@@werper09 Help him what? He wouldn't even stand up on his own, he just kept slumping down and sleeping. What exactly are you supposed to do with someone too weak to even stand and who has given up? It's easier moving an actually-already-dead guy down the mountain than that.
There sure are a sizeable minority of people that think you can somehow fix a tragedy like this through empathy alone. You can't magically teleport ~150lbs (68kg) of "guy who can't walk" out of an area where the air is so thin you need supplemental oxygen. Its not about whether or not he (or anyone else) is "deserving", it's not about "well why didn't anyone try!?". Its the fact that rescuing people is just not feasible.
I personally respect Everest in any form. It terrifies me actually. As I'm afraid of heights however I did climb a very small mountain in Alberta where I live. I was beyond stunned at this mountain and the respect I have for it. It's not a very big mountain but wow was it a trek. Then there was a valley with beautiful ice cold clear water I swam in. Then the trek down was way more difficult. But It's a very very amateur mountain compared to most mountains here and British Columbia. The Rocky Mountain range. Beautiful yet brutal.
The reality of it is that you can't bring someone down from there when they can't walk. It's risky enough to help someone down when they can still walk. From the sound of it Sharp was half frozen already and could hardly move. Anyone trying to bring him down would have likely died trying. Blaming a disabled man for not doing something that even able bodied men and women didn't do is ridiculous and blaming anyone but David Sharp for Sharp's death is ridiculous too. He climbed without oxygen, without a radio, and alone. Each of those increases the probability that you'll die.
Having attempted to summit Mt. Everest before, David Sharpe knew exactly what was at stake. Once you're in the "death zone", all bets are off as to whether you will coming off of that mountain or not.....if you do manage to make it, it is basically by sheer willpower because at that point, the body in most climbers, is so ravaged due to oxygen deprivation and malnourishment that the basic human will to survive is really the only driving force left. I think it's totally unfair for anyone else to be blamed for David Sharpe's death! Yes, it was a heart-shattering situation; however, as I stated before....David knew full well what he was up against. I read in a book (Dark Summit by Nick Heil) that David had actually made the comment to someone else that he was prepared to sacrifice some fingers and toes to be able to summit Mt. Everest....so in light of that, he was very determined to do it, or die trying. David's story is soul crushingly pitiful; however, I hope his death serves as a cautionary tale for others who may seek out Mt. Everest with the hope of reaching the summit.....and remind them that if they are going to attempt such an endeavor, not to do it alone. Book with a reputable trekking agency where you have all the bells and whistles.....it's worth the money.
Mountaineers know the risks. It's very, very sad just as the story of green boots is very, very sad but it is no one's fault except the people who choose to make this climb. David Sharp choose to climb alone with no oxygen or radio. No one deserves any blame except David Sharp and I don't even blame him. He lived and died his way.
No radio, no backup oxygen, no climbing partner, no instructions on his plans or when to expect his return, sits in a dark spot instead of by the ropes, sounds like suicide. Has there ever been any investigation into this possibility?
When you get at such an altitude. Your cognitive thoughts are irrational. There are stories of people who are climbing and doing well. Then out of nowhere, They sit down and dont move until they die.
Its so fucking deadly. Rich people think they can climb because its a socioeconomic achievement and money can buy then safety. And they end up dying because of status issues.
Don't be silly
Eye wonder did you watch the show sharpe went with very little he wanted to do it the tough way
@@tomkenny5864 yes. They have other shows and he's in some of their books. I was just asking because of a discussion with my son in law who suggested it to me.
Nobody is forced to go on that mountain. Climb at your own risk.
After watching numerous documentaries on Mount Everest, I think taking a photo from afar would be mission accomplished for me. My life is more precious than a mountain.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pretty sure mother nature is meant to be adored and enjoyed at a distance, so to speak..not abused ,like mnt. Everest!
That's exactly what I did. I BOUGHT a photo of Everest (with summit) which was taken by satellite. I love looking at it and dreaming about it. The hell I'd kill myself to take my own photo!!
Thanks C Marie! I had to abort my trek to EBC because I was suffering from High Altitude Pulmonary Edema and had to be medically evacuated!
I was able to take a picture of EVEREST from my bedroom window!
Fo'sure
I’ve never climbed but from what it sounds like it’d be hell of a job to save ANYONE past a certain point. It’s so easy to say “save him” from your warm, cozy room
But people don't even try to warm him. Give him some o2, or call the radio. They didn't even bother with the bare minimum
@@nenabunena People did try to help him, so did the very group Mark Inglis was in. Various climbers stopped like 5-6 times to try to help David. Different climbers part of a Turkish group stopped 4 times to try to help David, gave him oxygen, something to drink, radioed to other climbers in their group about David, and tried to help him to move. Climbers in the group Mark was a part of stopped and tried to help David to move. Some Sherpas from both groups stopped, gave David a bottle of oxygen and something to drink, tried to help him move, but realized it was a lost cause. It took the like a half hour just to move David 5 steps. It's practically impossible to rescue a climber with frozen limbs at that height. Did you watch the video?
Its all media hype, attention seeking.
@@nenabunena From what they say, your statement is inaccurate. However, you need to consider the context. There are no oxygen bottle shops in the submit. Each expedition sorts out their oxygen. You only give it away in extreme cases. Would you put yur own safety at risk by giving oxygen away to someone that you think is dead? Nonetheless, allegedly other did give him oxygen. Now, I can't see how you warm up in there. The video dedicated a part about the radio thing, but there was radio on the subject.
@@nenabunena they did call on the radio. Mr brice claims they didn't. It's all on film. Discovery also refused to hand over the footage to any authorities so we will never really know.
Sharp knew the risks he was taking. He was an experienced climber. I find it telling that his final words were his name, not save me. He knew he was dying. And his family seems to have no animosity towards the other hikers. I hope David Sharp is at peace and the world should let him be.
He died where he loved to be ❤
David Sharp's story is truly sad. His photographs are haunting, taken when he was alive, and in the lonely cave.
Agree.
I agree with what you said, except for one item...experience. From what I gleaned in another documentary about Sharp, he was not very experienced. His only prior 8000 meter peak was on the easiest of them, Cho Oyu, and with a group. He allegedly had troubles reaching its summit. It is a huge jump to go from that to climbing Everest's far more challenging Northeast ridge, solo. As for rescue prospects, it is a knife edge ridge, a steep, sharp spine with cliffs on both sides. That negates any prospect of a rope assist descent of a disabled climber. They MUST descend under their own power.
@@attackhelicopter-up3dh I get your position, but only half agree with it. Yes, the normal, humane position is to do what one can. But at the same time, in such an extreme environment, one where you've physically/mentally exerted yourself for weeks acclimating, then spent days advancing up through successive camps, now have a few hours in the death zone before you will become disabled, I can understand maintaining tunnel vision towards the goal they've spent years training for and spent ~$50k just to put themselves in that position.
I don't like it. But it's not fair to dump too much on them. Ordinarily, a climber joins a TEAM for good reasons. That includes the understanding that a team involves teamwork, including aid. Finding someone alone could easily be assumed as someone choosing not to summit but waiting for the rest of his team to return before descending. Also, from what I heard elsewhere, many of the climbers were focussed on each step on the ridge, the summit, and the dark, that they did not even notice someone tucked inside a cave to the side of their track.
So, rather than heap a lot on the climbers, my view is 90% of the blame lies with Sharp for WILLFULLY stacking the odds against himself
I think anyone who climbs Everest is insane. What happened to David Sharp is tragic, but the responsibility for his death is his and his alone. To blame a double amputee for his demise is appalling. Would it have been heroic of another climber to have risked his life to save David? Absolutely. But you can’t fault someone when the difference between life and death is virtually no more than a hair’s breadth.
I don't understand why people critize others and not D. Sharpe. As tragic as his death was but he himself is responsible for what happened!
He chose the coldest night. He wasn't aware that would happen, but as per usual it's the weather that causes these things. Nobody is to blame. Sir Ed needs to pipe down, blaming a disabled man is about as low as you can possibly get.
I watch this video for the second time after a month and I think David Sharp really had wished to die on Everest.
if you die- or even get hurt people just don’t want to ever put blame on you even if it is their fault
You’re not supposed to disrespect the dead
but i believe if differently to be honest
true but they could have been heros by forfeiting their ascent and giving David Oxygen the first time they saw him when he was still breathing fine.
@@peterstokes2463 lol give away your oxygen to a dying person so you die on the way down?? Seems legit.
The double amputee who couldn't even walk the full way back down (having to use a sled, and later carried) due to severe frostbite in his stumps, which he later had to have surgery to remove 3cm of length from, and was running out of oxygen, was supposed to save a man who was frozen solid, practically dead weight and who couldn't be carried more than 4 STEPS in 30 minutes by two experienced and strong able-bodied sherpas, from 8500m to base camp.
Obviously he didn't do enough, he should've climbed Everest in an hour and used his superhuman strength and endurance to carry Sharp down before he froze into position and his own frostbite set in.
Yes to the shade of it all! 👏
The Double Amputee was indeed carried by one guy. How come they and the 30 other people there that morning couldnt help carry one more down?
@@ActionableFreedom its the altitude Boris..duh! above 8000m Its not easy to carry a weight of a nearly dead men body in that steep dangerous mountain and Mark was only 200m away from the camp.. So use your brain
@@ActionableFreedom Use your brain, Boris!
@@prityboro9999 It's completely baffling to me that people are having such a hard time understanding why someone couldn't just pick Sharp up and carry him down the side of freaking Mt. Everest.
I am 100% certain that David would not be mad or have blamed any of those men. He knew the risk, and it was a death sentence for anyone who tried to help.
Bullshit
zipline his ass down?
@@delvinbonilla7618 impossible
plausible, I'm sure theirs a way. before all this was once said that getting to the top of this mountain was impossible. 🤔
@@delvinbonilla7618 theres really not, theres a small chance if there's an entire team going up with the sole purpose of rescuing someone, and that person still has to be able to walk to make it down even with all the extra assistance and oxygen. Sharp had thin gloves, only one bottle of oxygen as he didn't believe he needed it, no radio and didn't tell anyone when he was going or when he should be back. Not to mention when he was found he was severely frostbitten, his limbs were frozen and he couldn't communicate. It took two strong sherpas 20 minutes just to move him 4 steps as he was so frozen, it was fully impossible to rescue him
Cowboy seems one of those people that always helps someone in need. Him not being able to help David Sharp is probably something that'll torment him for the rest of his life. You can hear the anguish-don't feel ashamed Cowboy it just shows that you're a compassionate being.
Cowboy could have been frozen to the mountain like rob Hall.
Agreed Tom....
The man could not be saved. If you are strong enough mentally DONT GO. Sound like cowboy wasn't really one at all
@@maryduhon9769 so you're saying that just because he was upset about seeing another human being on the verge of death and not being able to help at all, that makes him weak minded?? I dont see the correlation..
He couldn't be saved he was about to die, it'd be a death mission for anyone trying to rescue others,even worse is that most deaths on everest are from people who tried to rescue others
I’m sorry but I have a great amount of respect for Mark. To be able to accomplish that climb with prosthetic legs…. That’s just jaw dropping.
And he went back AFTER the amputation
@@lisaperry5999 That's the really crazy part.
He’s as good as a murder…
Leaving someone to die to fulfill your selfishness.
Sickening
@@Ssenivac this is a joke comment everyone don't worry.
BRUH my legs will get tired HIS WONT
I’m pretty sure it’s a known fact that once in the death zone you’re basically on your own. It’s also known that if you’re not coherent and able to walk at least to some degree you can’t be helped. There have been exceptions, but that’s the general rule. It wasn’t anyone’s fault that man died. It’s tragic, but no other climber’s fault. Certainly not a single individual who was also a double amputee. He was the last person who could’ve done anything. It was an awful tragedy and nobody on that mountain was responsible.
The outrage industry doesn’t care about facts. Once one article is written, all the “journalists” rush to breathlessly parrot the original condemnation.
10x worse now.
Any efforts by his party members would have resulted in more bodies, at least thats what previous events have clearly outlined.
@@bensblues The thing is that people did try to help David. Mark Inglis was blamed merely because he was more well known apparently.
@@bIametheniIe exactly! Mark had to be carried down part of the mountain himself, as his stumps were wearing down to the bone and bleeding. When he got home, he had to have his legs amputated even further due to frostbite. The blame placed on this man is completely absurd, and clearly coming from people who have no idea what the situation was actually like on the mountain that day.
It WAS someone’s fault. His own. Can’t die there unless you GO there. And anybody that actually goes there knows as much as all of us commenting on here. The important part being that you can fucking die trying this and that past a certain point, nobody can ‘help’ you.
RIP David Sharp. No blame or guilt should be levied at anyone. The mountain is the story. Good luck to all the souls involved.
@@tsti1es I disagree. I can’t imagine that’s an easy decision to make when you see somebody like that & with no mountaineering experience, who are we to judge what they should’ve or could’ve done. and David Sharp obviously went on that mountain without the proper gear knowing the choice he was making when he decided to do that. He chose not to bring a radio knowing if something went wrong, there was nothing that could be done. It’s easy to judge when we’re looking at this on a phone or a TV and not there in person to experience the fatigue and lack of oxygen, our bodies basically only at the point of helping ourselves.
@@tsti1es it's not like they didn't care, they just weren't physically capable of helping. if they got stuck somewhere, that would've put more people's lives in jeopardy and there could've been even more deaths that day. trying to help someone while you're also fighting for your life isn't going to help anything
@@Mavthehuahua Asian trekking had a responsibility. Like the man said the company is sherpa owned and has sherpas on the mountain that should have started the rescue after the first call to base camp.
@@anya-zp1qs not them but Asian trekking??
@@tsti1es would you have saved him?
The first man to summit Mt. Everest Sir Edmund Hilliary and Tenzing Norgey Sherpa. Not only Sir Edmund Hiliary.
Thank you Tinsing Norgey had been a previous 7x before Ed from what I understood.
The video clearly states this. Thanks making sure it is factual
They name the sherpas in the beginning of the video?
@@82566 yes but who controls the media
@@psyde MOST HAVE NO CLUE AND BELIEVE ALL THE DRIVEL FROM THE MSM.........HENCE GLOBAL LOCK DOWNS FROM TYRANNICAL GOVT.
No one should or has the right to point fingers at climbers for not sacrificing their own safety or summit to rescue others.
Summit or save a life? Hmm not a hard choice.
I'm always saddened to hear of a climber losing his or her life, and I respect their courage....but I'm also reminded that the climber put themselves in that situation. In fact, they walked themselves into that situation. They walked all the way to the place they died. It's cases like these that make me question why climbing a mountain is worth dying for.
Literally!
It's more than the just the mountain
Well if anything, dying is only inevitable. So maybe dying while doing what you absolutely love is not a bad way of living. Some may do it for pride, which is quite sad but for those who love doing it because it makes them experience live more, it doesn't seem so bad. Also death from hypothermia is scientifically one of the least painful way of dying.
I think part of the reason they climb is they assume tragedy is going to happen to someone else. Rob Hall knew tragedy was going to happen in 1996, but he assumed it was going to happen to another team (most likely the Taiwanese). However, most of the deaths that year were from Hall's team.
For attempting a rescue like that, they'd need a big team of top climbers with the sole porpuse of attempting said rescue. Even with that, if the climber can't move at all or is barely concious, it would be an impossible task.
And you're telling me that people end up blaming a man with two prothesic legs? What kind of madness is that?
The people organising the expedition, taking over 65 thoysand US thousands dollars from each of these climbers every year, should have such a team on call for these kinds of rescues around the clock. This everest thing is a huge exploitation of people who kind of deserve it
Also. Just playing devil's advocate here. But Mark would've been expecting a rescue himself after his stupid decision to ascend Mt Cook. He was happy for others to put their lives at risk to rescue him. Lucky the helicopter pilots survived and were able to rescue him in the end.
However some of the comments seem a bit hypocritical and overlook this point. Which I think is valid.
@@ZZ-mh2nv I agree with the exploitation part, but i don't think anyone let's you die on Everest. There have been a lot of cases where people were saved, but it's not always the same context.
@@ZZ-mh2nv Even to save people there, at 8000 m, you need to think about yourself first. What is the point in save someone and die yourself? If you die when youre rescue someone, the person will die too. And up there is so cold, the air is so hard do breath and your moves are all slow that you cant carry more then your own weight and a bag. O2 is limitated, you cant spent more energy then you have, and you need to move someone in bad condition in hard field with a lot of obstacles ... even the most experience ones cant do that, especially if the person cant walk or breath. Even all the money in world or the more experience guy cant help or save people in this situation.
@@ZZ-mh2nv That would be impossible & dangerous. If every expedition had a rescue group it would almost double the amount of people on the mountain & just slow down movement between high altitude camps adding to exposure time. If you are in a bad situation on the summit ridge you will only seriously risk sherpas lives on doomed rescue attempts.
I’m dumbfounded that the blame for the death of an able-bodied climber who chose to summit on his own, with no oxygen, at a time of day that would put him at greatest risk, and consequently (one might argue inevitably) got into a state where he simply couldn’t be rescued due to being immobilized by hypothermia & then died - would lie solely (& publicly) on a double amputee & his team of 3 other climbers (without sherpas) who acknowledged that they weren’t equipped to rescue him, and that indeed nobody would be, because David was unable to move. If you can’t move at all (even with assistance) when you’re in the death zone, nothing can be done for you. Is this not the first rule of Everest? How would Sir Ed not know this? How could he single out a double amputee & publicly shame him for not rescuing David, when in fact he ultimately had to be rescued himself? It’s absolutely mind boggling!
I think everybody calling him "Sir" got to his head.
dementia
@@kinglar 🤣😂
Older generations always believe themselves superior to the younger ones. I doubt he'd've been able to do anything different in that situation. Not to mention he hadn't been in the death zone in literal decades, so the reality of the situation was probably distorted in his head.
@Krysta’s English …. agree 💯% … David was unable to be rescued … truth be known, he would have known that too.. There were those who paused and acknowledged him, one mountaineer, I can not remember his name gave him a gentle touch… very sad but those who take on challenge of this great mountain know all the risks and consequences. I hope Sir Ed, after the fact … felt that he was wrong to call out Mark Inglis because he was wrong to do so.
My brother was a rock climber for the Australian national rock climbing team and one day I remember Mark coming to the climbing gym to give a talk to the team.
He was such a humble and caring man- he really inspired everyone, he gave up his whole day to give support & advice to everyone, even the family members of the climbers... anyone who speaks badly of him has obviously never met him. On top of that he raises money for multiple charities and even does research for curing leukaemia.
Also attempting a rescue at that height would be suicidal for anyone, not to mention an amputee and disabled mountaineer.
David also did not take any of the needed resources to stay safe, he risked his life by his own choice and its not fair to blame anyone else for his death which was caused by his own choices.
God bless him 🙏🏼❤️
@Cora Autumn This video should be The Mark Inglis Story: how the first double amputee conquered Mount Everest.
@@cattycorner8 true
Well said. What can be said for certain is they lived life on their own terms. They were not afraid to accomplish their desires. Rest in peace. 🕊
It’s not suicidal to Try and help someone and it has been done.
Shame on the public for reacting this way, there’s nothing they could have done.
People are so uninformed. Every ounce of strength you have can barely get yourself down.
you were there you must know....
@@JeepTeriyakiit’s common knowledge. No one will just be taken down. It’s not possible. You’re clueless.
His last words were to identify himself. He knew he was going to die, was expecting it. He didn't say "help, don't leave me". So I don't think he expected others to do anything else than what would be done for the imminently dying.
The Sherpas are the real heroes. Please remember that. They are angels on the mountain. Respect from 🇨🇦
100%. Sherpas are egoless angels compared to the mountain 'conquerers' .
@Holden Mcgroine haha classic. I love edgy humour with deep truth bombs.
Stop weeding my friend.
Sherpas are not angels, they’re people like everyone else some good some bad, but they definitely do deserve way more respect for what they do and the ability they have to do it.
@@chayhughes9242 well said.
Unbelievable that Sir Edmund criticized Ingles. Sharp decided to climb on his own. Certainly a double amputee couldn’t help him. Max, a Lebanese man who had just summited with Brice’s team even tried giving him some of his oxygen but couldn’t rouse him. Max comes down sobbing because he was torn about Sharp just being left there. It’s too bad that his summit will forever be marred by this tragedy. But when you climb you are told to be prepared for death. You may have a guide with you but they cannot drag you down if you can’t walk. Guides need to POUND that into a members head.
It needs to be on a written contract that each climber must sign. "I understand fully that I am responsible for myself on the mountain, both getting up and getting down. I absolve XXXX Company of any and all responsibility for getting me off the mountain should I become incapacitated at any point, and I understand that no other climber on the expedition is responsible for me in any way." My god, you have to sign such a thing when you rent a horse to go on a trail ride, or you want to ride the bumper cars at a circus.
Agreed.
I am 100% sure that you have never climbed a mountain before. Stop talking as if you really know what you're talking about. You're merely watching videos about the subject matter on RUclips like everybody else, you're not an expert on mountaineering ma'am so settle down lol.
@@Asia.Persuasia shut up muppet, it’s obvious you haven’t either, if you rely on others to help you.
I bet the double amputee would have expected help. He could not even make it down on his own
As sad as any death is, when it comes down to it, if you die on Everest, you’re the only one at blame. Nobody has the strength to carry someone down the mountain, climbers know this when attempting to climb and they also know there’s a chance of dying. If you can’t walk/climb while there, to put it simply, you’re screwed.
You gotta feel for the surrounding villages what use the mountain rivers for water knowing you have 50 bodies decaying into the water supply
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain Most, if not all the bodies would be frozen, so probably not a great deal of decay going on.
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain Bodies don't decay at -65°C. Will still be there for the next 10,000 years unless removed.
Actually, although not contaminating water supplies, bodies are being revealed, some decades after their deaths, as climate change causes glaciers and layers of snow to melt. The Nepalese and Tibetan govts are trying to remove the accessible ones when this happens but the majority (200+) are located in the Death Zone, in an area called Rainbow Valley, and cannot be removed bc they're essentially frozen to the mountain.
Tsewang Paljor aka Green boots is (was) our Indian Army’s high altitude unit soldier. RIP brother. 🇮🇳🙏🏽
🙏 🇬🇧 !
🙏🇹🇩 !
How is it possible that these critics are blaming other climbers for Mr. Sharp's risks HE took regarding HIS climb?
What's worse, is these critics are blaming a man with prosthetic legs for not hoisting David up and bringing him down! What the hell!?
Blaming mark is more silly than sharp going for a summit push alone with nobody and no radio, nobody’s fault especially a double amputee that barely made it back down himself
Correct, however Mark is crazy. Ed was right about that. Hard enough for people with actual legs. He would have died on his own, just like David Sharp.
@@frankobrien1371 legs or not most people would die on their own.
@@Alan-ej6wb I mean most experienced alpine climbers. It seems the problem with Everest cemetery growth has been there are no standards or qualifications set, just ability to pay. Traffic jams and accidents due to inexperience are only going to increase. It is a big mess and of course money corrupts even the purest things in life.
@@frankobrien1371 Would have got more respect if he would have stayed with the dying climber. Nobody should be alone in their last moments on earth.
@@stephenking4794 From what I heard he literally wasn't alone, because everyone kept walking past.
But, it's the death zone, rules down here don't apply up there.
Sir Ed, did you believe a man with no lower legs was to blame for that mans death. David Sharpe broke every rule in the book so it was no other climbers fault.
Joyleen Poortier He was never to blame, just because Hillary who as far as I know never saved anyone. Says it was gastly was a pure idiot even if he did climb it! Sharp made 2 many mistakes!
Maybe Ed could have taken his old ass up there to save him??
@@PepeDeezNutz with the other 360 porters and 20 Sherpas like in 1953
@@blasterml ok
If he wanted to point out that even in the Everest it would be nice to have some support between climbers, he particularly choose a very bad case to make his point.
Look at Rob Hall they couldn't get him off the mountain and he was able to talk to people but when you're that high up you know the risk. No one should blame anyone period
From what I have read, seen and heard Rob Hall was a heroic fool. He should have left Doug Hansen as soon as he realized that Hansen was almost literally a dead man walking. Now he died together with Hansen and took Andy Harris more or less with him.
And Rob died because of being slowed down and dragging Doug with him.
Mark would be dead too in the same way.
@@milip7853 Rob Hall died because he took Hansen's side when Sherpa Ang Dorje was trying to get Hansen to descend. A stupid decision that probably got Hansen, Harris and himself killed.
Lying about shit though acting like you did everything you could when you didnt is just fucked up
@@milip7853 thats why rob hall is remember and mark isnt. Rob knew what his job was. Bet he would do it again to. Walking by someone in need to fulfil your own goal is like super fucked
So people expected a double amputee who took all the necessary safety precautions to risk his life helping an able bodied climber who cheaped-out on his expedition prep and decided to climb alone? In what universe does that make sense?
Absolutely! Sharpe was an idiot who broke all the rules like a clueless moron and paid the price. Entirely his own fault, nobody owed him a thing simple as that
Have you heard of the guy who actually tried to snowboard down Everest? He said it was the holy grail of snowboarding downhill. Many people including Sherpa's tried to convince him it was too sketchy, but he ignored them and proceeded to snowboard down Everest never to be seen again. I honestly believe he fell down a hidden crevasse, or went off a cliff. Either way he is a part of the Everest for eternity 😔
That story abut the snow boarder , experts said that area he came had no Crevasses , which may be true , but any type of serious injury could be very dangerous, I think either a injury or a avalanche got him, It could have been exhaustion , but at his age and strength. I doubt even being tired would have stopped him. I would guess a avalanche,like what unfortunately killed his brother..or he could have damaged his snowboard, like the bindings , it. Doesn’t take much to happen that could stop him. That whole trip was a rush ,and he should have waited for his original guide,that he used on his first ascent. And not been In Such a hurry under bad weather conditions.
I watched a documentary about that young man. He ignored all warnings not to go up. He lost his big brother to a climbing accident and his mother begged him not to go. I think he snowboarded right off the mountain or into a crevass and was covered with snow via a small avalanche. We will never know.
LOL tf. this is the craziest thing I heard all day
You're forgetting the part where he actually _did_ it. He did it once successfully and lived. Then he thought "let's do it again, but take an even harder route." Then he waited until there was even more snow, later in the season when it's more dangerous. He was probably always going to die there. He could never let it be one and done.
You mean Marco Seffredi!
This whole thing makes me wonder why people do this. I understand the amazing reward of reaching the summit after pushing your limits and being on top of the world literally, but no other part of this seems even slightly enjoyable. You walk past dead bodies, feel sick, cold and completely exhausted and even when you finally reach the summit you're probably worried about frostbite and how you're going to make it back down without dying. Definitely not the greatest risk/reward ratio I've ever come across.
Type 2 fun
That's exactly what I was thinking.. 💯💯
Exactly. But I'm guessing bragging rights in the aisles at waitrose is worth it.(!)
It is at this point you feel most alive.....
@@rushnready how could you know it's when someone feels most alive, unless you've done every challenging thing in the world to compare it to
Counterpoint: one night I watched about 500 nightclubbers walk past a homeless person camping rough in -11F, and I was the only one who called emergency, and they were angry about it.
This happens in cities too. Maybe worse morally.
I don't get it, the homeless person was camping and you called emergency?
Yeah most people are subhuman, good job.
You were raised with decency and that's a virtue. God bless you.
You were raised with decency, and that is a virtue. God bless you.
@@fredrickmartinez7047 Self-righteousness isn’t a virtue. Patting yourself on the back for being what you perceive as a “better” person than others is something else...
You have no idea why those other people didn’t call emergency. Maybe they see that same homeless man camping every night in such weather, or they’ve called before and nothing happened.... many possibilities.
I feel really bad for Mark. It feels selfish to go yourself without oxygen and then put others at risk to help you. That risk is selfish.
That's why it's understood that the guy without oxygen shouldnt expect help if they go down and can't get up. If I was foolish enough to go without oxygen I would let it be known that no one should risk their life trying to save me
Sharp was too over confident, went alone, and majorly underprepared. He should of been mourned and missed. Not attack a survivor of the mountain
Yes belief
HELL YEAH BABYGURL ;)
@@ringofasho7721 You may feel differently when it actually happens, and you're actually on the ground freezing to death, than you do from your keyboard in your warm house. Just saying.
Binge watching Everest Videos.
What I took away from this sad story is, when you choose the cheapest option to climb the highest point on earth, you have to live or die with the outcome.
Well, it's pretty much the same if you pay top dollar to climb with a very reputable company. There are some situations, such as the one David Sharp was in, where only God could save you.
Theey rescued Lincoln Hall! You should have tried harder?
@@dianamincher6479 if you can't walk, nobody can save you at that elevation. Lincoln could walk, David could not.
Incredible documentary. Thank you for sharing! Mark was NOT responsible, just as the other summiters were not responsible. Sharpe was responsible for himself. I maintain the belief that he went up there knowing he’d die.
Near the summit unable to move is a tragedy but trying to help him down would lead to more deaths this is why its called the death zone.You must get to the summit celebrate briefly and get down as fast as you can which is slow as you are exauhsted even with oxygen.There is no room for error at this altitude.Going alone on Everest was a huge mistake! He took the chance and lost sad but true.
Cowboy’s got a really big heart, he’s so human; he reminds me of a close friend, good buddy of mine I lost on a deployment. He was so worried about everyone else right up to the end, he didn’t care he was going. Very sad.
I agree to an extent, however I can't help but feel he's not being honest about those radio transmissions.
@@TheTelblackwell that's not cowboy. Cowboy was the one climbing the mountain, and said in his interview something like "I just wanted to reach out and touch him" when they were passing David.
@@TheTelblackwell I think it was Russel or something that was at the base saying he never got the transmissions.
I hold the media accountable for manipulating an elderly Sir Ed into comments that would have broken the hearts of many mountaineers especially Mark Inglis, enraging the ignorant public and using Davids death as leverage to create this toxic story.
I'm not a climber, but from an early age I've been fascinated by Everest. Have read some books and watched numerous videos about it. That shot of Sharp going up on his own at that time of day, kind've says it all. What could the team in their condition and in the dark, possibly do, except kill themselves. How many incapacitated climbers or bodies have been brought down from where Sharp and the Indian climber are? I assume most of the backlash against the team was started by, and encouraged by, the know-nothings in the media.
Absolutely.
There were multiple attempts to help him once they realized he wasn’t dead. The problem was it was very dark when he was initially in trouble and no one saw him. People who did see him thought he was dead because he wasn’t moving or talking or they mistook him for green boots. He went up completely unprepared and recklessly. His mom even said she doesn’t blame anyone for not helping him. And the problem also was he was in the death zone for a long time and if you can’t walk yourself somewhat out of the death zone you are going to die there because rescue or even body recovery just isn’t possible in the death zone. It is every man for themself to an extent
He went up there with no radio, no guide, no emerge supplies and no oxygen. He set himself up for failure and unfortunately his death.
I strongly disagree with Edmund Hillary. The amount of manpower they would need to get him down just wasn’t possible especially in the death zone. You also have to be mobile enough to aide in your own rescue. David was well past that point. Yes he is a human being but so are the other climbers and their lives matter too. Rescue attempts would have put them in danger. By the time they were trying to help him it was too late. If they had found him earlier maybe they could have attempted but they didn’t. It was dark and he wasn’t moving and it was well known green boots was in that cave.
I do commend Sharpe for saying before he understands rescue attempts may not be possible and said it’s okay to prioritize yourself over saving me
Liar. Sharp was connected to the static line they were all using. Every one of the climbers had to bend down and reconnect to get past him. They were all 2 feet from him. Stop lying to yourself.
Fully agree Madison.
I honestly feel like when your team mate is running low on oxygen on the way UP you should tell them to go back and even offer to go with them to keep them safe. Your humanity matters more than reaching the summit.
Agreed wholeheartedly. However, if that teammate decides not to listen, it should be understood that they are on their own if their oxygen runs out
Also, easier said than done when you are 30k ft above sea level than being in the comfort of home in front of a laptop!
your life is in dangerous too. All them are adult persons, with capacity to know the risk. He knew make a solo climb and with no support can result in death. Isnt just about humanity, is about stay alive and take the risks. If you go there and need to choose save your life or save another person life, im sure you will choose yourself, and this dont make you less human. Stay alive at 8000m, trying to take care or save a sick person who cant move or dont have energy is the same as kill yourself.
1 - Its so much Cold
2- You cant breath properly
3- limited O2 support
4- weather conditions can change in less then a 1min
5- Hard and dangerous field.
6- If you dont be fast in go out there you can have a lot of problems and die too.
Up there you can just take care about yourself. Isnt humanity issue, isnt about be more human, is about know the risks and take responsability about everything that can make your life stay in danger.
People have worked years up on years to achieve their goal. Don’t forget they pay thousands to get up in the peak. I mean people just go into pilotmode
It’s too bad that some members get “summit fever” and refuse to turn around. The guides have to convince them they need to leave before they are incapacitated. Brice’s members and guides always had a very strict turn around time I think of 1:30. They can see the summit but they have been out there too long and their oxygen will run out before they get down if they don’t abide to that turnaround time.
I'm just here to read all the expert comments
The guy should have used a climbing axe in each hand. I saw that in the movie Vertical Limit
He also should've "strapped on some nitro"...
He should have brought a rocket pack.
They should've called 911...
I am lying on my bed with mobile on my hand and connected to WiFi. Do I qualify as an expert.yes I gathered my knowledge from yt videos never went to mountains.
I remember when this story hit 15 years ago and all the uproar. I thought then David Sharp knew exactly what he was getting into. I still believe that today.
He knew. AMS can hit differently every time you hit the death zone is the problem. Pair that with summit fever it's almost impossible for them to remain rational with their decision making
And guess what? No one cared about your opinion then and still don’t today.
While I felt sad on how Sharp died, I sympathized more with the other climbers who tried to help him. I'm kinda crtitical of Sharp now, because it was his third expedition to the Everest and still didn't learn from his last experiences regarding to take supplementary oxigen. If it was a goal of his to reach the summit of Everest, he would've taken that priority first instead of adding difficuty on how to get there (not taking extra oxigen and going solo). And this relates to day-to-day life: We think we can do everything on our own without considering the risks. Sometimes, knowing the extent of our limitations and get a little help doesn't hurt.
Reminds me of a doc i saw on K2 where a guy had died after falling from the bottle neck, and some guys (i think 4) who didnt try to summit went up to bring him back to camp 4 and burry him. But as they were lowering him down the mountain someone slipped and pulled everyone (cos they were tied together), ended up with another person dead because of it (lucky it wasnt more actually). One of the guys was crying angrily because now they lost another. Sometimes its just not worth it!
Burry .... lol
Except this rescue attempt actually probably saved 2 people's lives.
Only 1 person (Fred) went UP to try to get the dead man (because he thought the man was still alive), and 3 people from the summit-bound group went back DOWN to get him. The one that ultimately fell in the rescue was one of the ones who turned back, and unfortunately it is highly likely that he was suffering from mountain sickness (couldn't walk without continuously falling on Fred, never attempted to stop his own fall, wasn't responding to instructions, etc). So, who knows, that guy probably would have died anyway if he had continued on to the summit while he was already so out of it and at least the two that went down with him were spared being stuck up there when the icefalls started.
It happens a LOT. On that same trip, 2 Sherpas were forced to try to rescue some of the Korean team. They were killed by ice fall that was known to be happening at the time.
Sharpe was just too far gone. Another team gave him oxygen and 2 Sherpas tried to get him down, but they couldn't get him beyond the entrance to the cave. He just collapsed so they moved him back inside before they left. That was all anyone could do.
I think that it is very kind of other climbers and sherpas to give palliative care to a dying person beyond rescuing that high on the mountain. He was not disregarded in my opinion.
At least green boots has company now! 😉
@@michellebeynon7811 Actually, last I read Green Boots body was moved and pushed further down the mountain side, out of sight. They do this with a lot of bodies.
@@fatalexception1269 Yes I read something like that too recently, very sad. But my understanding was it’s very difficult to move the bodies because they became part of the mountain. So I wasn’t sure. Didn’t he get pushed over the Chinese side ?
@@goldenniblings ...it was touching to know Sherpas tried to help David S. To see that one climber pause a few moments and place his hand on David Sharpe whilst saying a prayer over him... speaks volumes of a man with substance.. in my eyes.
I've climbed a few smaller mountains in North America but also mountains around 5800 meters in the Andes and believe me, putting a step in front of the other at that altitude was already such a phenomenal effort, I can't imagine trying to help someone get down at 8500 meters 😱
Yes it is because you have been through that. Walking alone is a challenge. Above 8000m at those atmosphere even helicopters can't rescue. Moving him to camp4 was only possible if someone had spare oxygen and the victim could move but in this case he was only taking his last breaths
and u have legs (i assume) inglis didnt
I couldn't handle 4000 meters
David Sharp was possessed by his ambition to summit Everest and No one should be blamed for anothers goals. David Sharp was driven and driven to climb by himself and do what he loved. Everyone knows what risks they are taking on and to blame a Stumpy is absolutely insane and Sir Edmund is off the mark. Just because he was alive the assessment of the ability and probability of conducting an operation to save him were too great.
RIP David Sharp... The other climbers had no choice or die themselves... I'm sure David understood that, such a tragic story.. But David Sharp knew the risks, sad but true.. RIP mate... X
David Sharp is everyman on Everest?
I’m sure you are probably even more annoying in person than here
I'm not a climber, but it seems to me that everyone who attempts to climb Everest knows the rules and the risks, and thwarting those rules or ignoring those risks are done at your own peril. While it is sad that people have lost their lives, they either knew what they were getting into, and chose to ignore advice, or didn't do enough research and/or training. I live in Phoenix, Arizona, and we have people, often within a group, die almost weekly on our local mountains due to the heat, despite plenty of signs, warnings, and advice along the trail. Ditto the Grand Canyon. Mother Nature doesn't f*ck around.
Why did he get the blame for not doing anything to help about 30 people walked past him and yet he a person with both his legs gone gets the blame. He had no chance of helping no one did but definitely not him
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@@werper09 Mark(double amputee) and Russell(expedition leader) are two different people
he got blamed bc ed is a jerk
Somehow I picked up Jon Krakauer's book "Into Thin Air" about 20 years ago. It should be required reading before anyone makes a comment about what anyone else should do when attempting an Everest summit. It's also a great read about a real event. Finished it in one night, couldn't put it down. And now, I shut my mouth and say a silent prayer for the deceased on Everest and the Sherpa community who call the mountain Chomolungma......."Mother of the World"
Just finished it last night. I’m now reading The Death Zone. Have you read The Climb?
Actually, Chomolungma means 'Goddess Mother of the Earth'.
I've picked up my copy of "Into Thin Air" so many times the pages are thin as rice paper!!
Need to get hold of all the books written by the ones who experienced the 1996 tragedy. Then you will understand the whole big picture of how it happened.
lmao what an unfortunate name- "chomoligma"😂🤣😭
I recommend watching the Lincoln Hall story. He was thought to be dead then woke up hours later alone with no supplies or equipment and survived days in the death zone delirious.
Similar with Beck Weathers.
Temperatures were not as cold, as the night sharp passed
Thank you 🙂
You cant just take a nap anywhere these days.
It would of been impossible to save David Sharp. Two strong experienced Sherpas tried and quickly realized it couldn’t be done. It’s called the “death zone” because if you can’t keep moving you perish. Once, exhaustion sets in and you physically can’t move, you die.
People who are appalled and distraught at the thought of abandoning a dying person at that altitude forget one thing. Above 8000 meters everybody starts dying. Oxygen tanks, mountain clothing, and dexamethasone only TEMPORARILY staves off death and buys you enough time(hopefully) to summit and descend.
You can only do so much especially when you are battling a mountain, coldness, and lack of oxygen. Rest easy to the people who have lost their lives to the mountain.
In lifesaving they point out "don't just jump in to rescue a drowning man". If you also get into trouble there are now either two to rescue or two deaths not just one. Unless you are in a position to make a safe rescue it is better not to be foolhardy. Surely this applies here just as much.
Former lifeguard here and you are correct. Going in is the last on the list of things to try. The mantra is: reach, throw, row, go.
@@Nyquil5 - I've learned that from watching the lifeguards at Bondi Beach on their TV show. Hugely dedicated to saving lives, they are acutely aware that they need to stay alive as well and they conduct their rescues accordingly.
I'm not a climber but just in general it's real easy to criticize someone else when its not you in the situation. I've met alot of "if it was me" and "well I would've done this" people. They talk big because they know they'll never be in that situation
To me David's mothers response of her not blaming Mark for not saving her son, should be the only matter to him.
David Sharp did not use oxygen. He died because of his actions. No one can rescue a climber in the dead zone.
So many issues. Another thing is why would someone who lost two legs after being stuck in a cave by the summit for 13 days, had to be rescued by people who were lucky to survive rescuing him, go back and put more people at risk again. In the cumbrian fells, a man from liverpool camps on red screes, needs rescuing because of a heart condition, a rescuer suffers life changing injuries and the rescuee receives a 200 pound fine. I do not think he should ever be allowed on fells again, and if does and needs rescuing should be left to suffer the consequences of risking it again.
Big mistake going up by himself and without communication. That was suicide
He was a former search and rescue mountaineer himself!! And he nearly died for it, it is plain madness to say this man is nothing short of a brave hero!
Or a brainless suicide who didnt value his life.
I think sir Ed's 2 cents was uncalled for and unfair.David Sharp knew what he was doing and knew the risks involved. At least 30 people passed him and not one of them could do anything to help him or help get him down. To single out Mark Inglis and call him out publicly was flat out wrong.
Spot on.
For all those who criticized the ones who didn’t help, I would like to see you go up there and help someone. You wouldn’t be able to do anything without the extra gear to carry the deadweight of another human being. There’s a reason entire teams have gone to recover single bodies..
The WHOLE POINT is WE dont want to climb a mountain! We also dont want to race motorcycles, jump out of planes, bungee jump into the Grand Canyon, climb the Empire State Bldg., fight a cage full of pythons, scuba to a deep cave under the ocean, etc. Because WE value our lives, family, and friends.
You will never understand. There are those of us who love adventure and the risk is small compared to the enjoyment.
I never considered my love of motorcycle riding would put me in the same danger zone as jumping into a cage full pythons but Who knows, maybe it is.
We are all mortal. We all pass on.
Taking risks and dying doing what you love; well that’s just something we risk takers are willing to accept.
When you chose a sport that includes stepping over dead people, using bodies for land markers and leaving dying people behind..you almost gotta expect criticism from people who could never conceive having to do such things.. it's taboo
Sir Ed was the loudest critical mouth piece. He should know better.
That's an enlightening perspective
Right…chuckle face emoji
@amery smith
Those pile ups were avoidable.. Truck drivers cause accidents.
@@toejam6941 people cause accidents. A lot of those pileups are caused by careless 4 wheeled drivers. Big Rigs can't stop on a dime
It’s very sad indeed but definitely no ones fault. This was David’s third time, he knew the risks, the climate, not taking oxygen and doing it solo is almost arrogant, not respecting the elements which is pretty much rule one. They had experience in seeing this, it was too late and they needed to look after the living. Rip David, so sad.
Hardcore arrogance I would say.
Even if there was a chance of being able to help, no one was under any obligation to lift a finger. Conditions were/are so dangerous that your risk increases even with a few seconds’ delay, therefore you should have 100% choice over how much risk you personally want to take. And David knew EXACTLY the ENORMOUS risk he was getting into (for that reason, I don’t blame Asian Trekking either).
The guy with the prosthetic legs? What an amazing human being. This could’ve been completely about him. Spent the first 25 minutes wondering if I had heard the man right. Is this real footage?
Seriously! His achievement of summiting Mt Everest with two prosthetic limbs is more deserving of a documentary than the death of this idiot Sharpe.
they should all have a meeting at the start, where a mutual agreement is made. "we're all crazy people doing a crazy thing. every man for himself (if need be), and leave everything in the hands of this mountain's creator, who cares not if you're a believer." I am no daredevil, nor am I very religious. but mountain climbing is something nobody's forced into. climbers love what they're doing, and must accept any of it's possible outcomes.
I can’t imagine how incredibly painful it must have been for those guys to recognize they could not save him and would have to leave or risk their own deaths too :( and it’s not like they didn’t try, they realized he was too far gone for them to do anything.
Yeah On the way down! They saw him on the way up and didn’t even give oxygen! Sorry but I couldnt walk past a dying man to celebrate on the summit.
@@lucylocket5774 how can they take him down when he cant even move that too near the summit as rob hall quotes "if u are stuck at the top of everest you may well be stuck on moon"
@@ajaykumar-fl3nm my point was, I could never have just continued on up knowing a man was dying alone.
@@lucylocket5774 yea but even if u stay ita near impossible in helping if they cant walk which makes the moral compass useless other than logic yea but it is tough to leave someone to death knowing we cant do ntng
@lucylocket5774 so what would you do? Sit down and die with him right?
What a shitty take from Ed. What were they supposed to do? Put the guy on their shoulders and walk him down? That just can’t happen. You literally can’t blame them for not bringing him down, thinking otherwise is just absurd. Lost a bit of respect for Ed for saying that.
These are tour operators. The real problem is that their customers have paid good money to be carried to the top of Everest. Stopping to save someone's life would be a dereliction of contract for the paying customers.
Which makes it even more disgusting.
I don’t think he blames them for David dying. think, it’s more that they didn’t even try to help. A lot of respect to those sherpas that did try... maybe if they were the ones that had found him so many more hours earlier he might have been more responsive and things would have ended differently or maybe it was a lost cause. But it is crazy what willpower can do, I mean, somehow an Everest summit under even more brutal than normal conditions as a double amputee is possible
YES, That's exactly what they should have done.
@dale gribble not really. you still can’t have helicopters fly that high to save anyone down. you are on the edge of dying just to drag your own body weight down . what can one do?
@@allisonmc4553 There wasn't anything they could do...dragging around 150+ lbs of dead weight just means they'll be dead weight.
bottom line is … everyone knows once you’re up there and on oxygen, there isn’t much you can do to help others in distress. You’re at your limits just helping yourself. Any n everyone who climbs those mountains knows the rules. If u can’t help yourself…you’re dead. blame nobody but yourself
David Sharp climbed alone, no oxygen, no radio, no extra batteries apparently, and somehow other people are to blame for not risking their life and rescuing him, which was near impossible if not impossible. David Sharp was responsible for David Sharp, no one else.
RIP David Sharp and all the other courageous, ambitious ppl left up there.
They cant read this ... cuz they're dead.
I only have one observation here. Dude's trying to do it pure, okay. Dude didn't leave and wiggle room for error, and the concept of it ACTUALLY going wrong never crossed his mind. My observation is loosely based on the picture of guy still sporting a goatee. When you are at altitude having a proper seal of skin to mask makes even more of a difference because of the outside pressure. When you take a breath, you aren't so much sucking air in as having your lungs inflated by the atmosphere. When you are on oxygen you are adding a content critical gas, but not much pressure. Breathing is labored partly because now you ARE having to suck in air, and the air you are sucking in is far less dense, meaning lower gas content. With a leaking mask, you wind up wasting a ton of gas directly to the atmosphere.
So guy wants to climb pure, but he also set everyone else up to fail in rescue should Mr. Murphy rear his ugly head. In a sense, it comes down to "How much are we supposed to get in the way of you getting the Darwin Award you seem to so dearly wish to attain?"
My understanding from this film is that David Sharp carried on to the summit too late in the day - something he would have known. He literally walked into the twilight zone willingly. Not thinking straight.
Above a certain altitude, rescue of a fully disabled person is impossible, literally. Anyone who goes up Everest knows and accepts the risk. The public did not know or understand this. Yes, return whatever can be brought down of the deceased’s effects. But understand the mountain herself is his tombstone. Those who hike mountains like Everest are like soldiers in combat. Death and burial where you fall are risks you take.
its nothing close to combat. drama queen. you are trying to fabricate glory and bravery. its JUST foolishness and privilege. bravery is actually fighting and standing up to PEOPLE and unexpected danger.
You take the risk, you pay the price if it goes wrong, nobody’s responsibility apart from your own!
Edmund Hillary went down in my estimations when I heard the way he blamed Mark Inglis for not helping David Sharp. Nobody should have known better what it's like up there than Edmund Hillary. At that altitude, it's physically impossible to drag a climber that cannot walk down the mountain. Blaming a man with no legs really was a step too far.
I’m not a mountaineer, but I absolutely understand that if you are not able to self rescue in the dead zone, there is almost no way that someone else will be able to change the outcome. It is truly the same as trying to rescue an astronaut on the moon using only a radio.
David Sharp story reminds me of the Nepali Canadian lady, both of their deaths were blamed on others. No one realizes how frikin stupid decisions they both made.
As someone who has done 4 8000ers, i would advice anyone who listens to go with people whom you can trust. When you decide to go alone, YOU are responsible for whatever happens to you over there. No one else.
Sad but true
Yes, Sharp shoulders a majority of moral failure in the scenario. Maybe his mind was not making rational decisions that fateful day he continued alone too late into the afternoon. His expedition company shares moral and organizational failure in not insisting that others be with him in the death zone to force a rational decision if his mind was gone. Still, the dozens of people passing Sharp by in the early morning hours have a share in the moral failure too. Ascents could have been canceled in an attempt to share enough O2 to get him moving again. Organizationally, Sagarmatha National Park and Nepal authorities fail to provide clear rules for canceling summits in a rescue scenario.
If you see dead people on Everest you obviously continue for that summit, it's no secret it's dead people everywhere. But seeing someone who's dying? I don't know, rough...it's hard for first time climbers to know what to do exactly, it's up to the expidition leaders to make the call. Spend a bit of time trying to get him warmed up by rubbing his body and stuff, talk to him a lot, make sure he knows someone's there for him atleast. But they didn't even touch the man? that's what i find kind of disturbing...
dallbau ossenn: I find it REALLY DISTURBING.
Rubbing his body? Through his summit suit?
I think if someone is dying I’d ask them if they have any last words or a message to be sent to a loved one. I’m not sure it’s realistic to save his life or carry him down the mountain, but they could’ve offered him last rites or a prayer. Seems inhumane to not even acknowledge a living/dying soul. Just my opinion. Easier to judge (from a place of ignorance) since I haven’t been in that situation.
This is a tragic incident and people are always looking for someone to blame. I hope David can rest in peace and I hope Mark has moved past this and lived without guilt. I truly don't think anyone is at fault, especially not Mark who accomplished an amazing feat being a 2x amputee. David knew the risk he was taking and I don't think he would've wanted others to take undue risk on his behalf either.
Edmend hilliary is eathier high age has warped his memory. Its phsycally impossible to bring him down what part of that is so hard to understand. Someone tried to
rescue him media blew it out of perporsion
Well said.
Edmund Hillary's criticism was completely inappropriate bc he knew it was impossible to rescue an incapacitated person from that location. His anger should have been focused on climbers, like Sharpe, that take unnecessary risks as they're a danger to themselves and others.
David Sharp’s death was tragic. As are all deaths on Everest. I’ve never been on Everest and I never will be. I live in a state with the average altitude of 100 ft. above sea level. I’d never make it to even base camp. I’m not so uninformed to even begin to think I could or would ever try. But I feel the exhilaration of those who do summit. I’m happy for them. I’ll happily share in their exhilaration. I also feel heartbreak for those that lose their lives there. It’s tragic and awful. But it’s also a yearly fact. You are truly taking your life in your own hands. Quite literally. Rest In Peace David Sharp and all others who have died on that mountain.
Couldn't have said that any better!
@@selbstnatuerlich1150 thank you. I meant every single word. From my heart. 💙
@@susancaroline927 I could tell ❤
state with an average altitude of 100ft? That makes it tough to go for a brisk walk up a hill. Are you from Florida?
When you climb up MT Everest you know that death is a big possibility, you can not carry some one down.
the true heroes here are the sherpas... nobody says anything about them being the first men to reach the summit. Sir Ed didn’t do it by himself and he gets all the credits... No hate here just statin facts
The sherpas always get recognition as did tenzing with hillary, stop trying to virtue signal and be all offended for people that arnt offned
I saw someone say it's only an achievement when a guy from the west makes it to the top first, but I'm sure people from that country were the first people to summit everest
Every experienced climber knows the risk that they are taking. Every time they try to rescue somebody up there it's a huge undertaking that puts a lot of other people's lives at risk.
David Sharp was responsible for himself, that’s it.
I've never climbed a mountain before so I know nothing about mountaineering, but I have grown up in nature, and the first thing I was taught was to always respect it. Nature isn't something you can just "conquer" and summiting a mountain doesn't mean you've "conquered" it. Not to say mountaineering doesn't take skill and tenacity, I know I don't have the balls to try it, but it seems like a lot of people (mountaineers or not) both in the past and in the present have this arrogance about them and it really bothers me.
Never respect nature.
@@collinhennessy6558 your funeral bud
@@beanbag1415 well said m8,!
EXACTLY right! But NO ONE knows them! And no one is impressed! They saw rocks, ice, and a view before they had to struggle back down to face a family and friends who knew the climber didnt consider them worth living for. Why should anyone rescue someone like that when they dont value them either?!! 😅😅😅
@@beanbag1415 I believe it's the funeral of the climber who is laying sprawled on the rocks up there!😂😂
Respect for Sherpa who carried the man with prosthetic legs behind his back.
I lost ALL respect for Ed, blaming a double amputee for not helping someone who made his own stupid choices to summit mid day instead of early morning with everyone else. He knew the risks he did it anyway and sadly didnt make it. Its Sad for his family but it was nobody's fault but Sharpe's.
Shame on hillary for talking down on this man who looked up to him. I also commend Him for raising money for charity with his climb thats amazing and a wonderful cause
Yeah. Either Hillary didn't have all the facts when he made that statement, or he's a real a-hole. Maybe both, who knows.
He blamed the double amputee because he was the leader of the expedition and could have made the call for the group to help the man.
I would believe he didn't have all the facts. He was a senior man by the time this controversy happened.
@@werper09 Help him what? He wouldn't even stand up on his own, he just kept slumping down and sleeping. What exactly are you supposed to do with someone too weak to even stand and who has given up? It's easier moving an actually-already-dead guy down the mountain than that.
There sure are a sizeable minority of people that think you can somehow fix a tragedy like this through empathy alone. You can't magically teleport ~150lbs (68kg) of "guy who can't walk" out of an area where the air is so thin you need supplemental oxygen.
Its not about whether or not he (or anyone else) is "deserving", it's not about "well why didn't anyone try!?". Its the fact that rescuing people is just not feasible.
Those commenters believe you should commit suicide in attempts to save the hopeless. Self-righteousness at its finest.
Exactly!
Nah there’s still gonna be the feels crew who bang on about how they would have done it differently. Pure madness.
I bet your parents didn’t like you much.
I personally respect Everest in any form. It terrifies me actually. As I'm afraid of heights however I did climb a very small mountain in Alberta where I live. I was beyond stunned at this mountain and the respect I have for it. It's not a very big mountain but wow was it a trek. Then there was a valley with beautiful ice cold clear water I swam in. Then the trek down was way more difficult. But It's a very very amateur mountain compared to most mountains here and British Columbia. The Rocky Mountain range. Beautiful yet brutal.
The reality of it is that you can't bring someone down from there when they can't walk. It's risky enough to help someone down when they can still walk. From the sound of it Sharp was half frozen already and could hardly move. Anyone trying to bring him down would have likely died trying. Blaming a disabled man for not doing something that even able bodied men and women didn't do is ridiculous and blaming anyone but David Sharp for Sharp's death is ridiculous too. He climbed without oxygen, without a radio, and alone. Each of those increases the probability that you'll die.
No wildlife or plant life up there to cold and no oxygen. Nothing living should be up there plain and simple.
This ^^ When you're losing lives and body parts, you have to question the sanity of these people.
Having attempted to summit Mt. Everest before, David Sharpe knew exactly what was at stake. Once you're in the "death zone", all bets are off as to whether you will coming off of that mountain or not.....if you do manage to make it, it is basically by sheer willpower because at that point, the body in most climbers, is so ravaged due to oxygen deprivation and malnourishment that the basic human will to survive is really the only driving force left. I think it's totally unfair for anyone else to be blamed for David Sharpe's death! Yes, it was a heart-shattering situation; however, as I stated before....David knew full well what he was up against. I read in a book (Dark Summit by Nick Heil) that David had actually made the comment to someone else that he was prepared to sacrifice some fingers and toes to be able to summit Mt. Everest....so in light of that, he was very determined to do it, or die trying. David's story is soul crushingly pitiful; however, I hope his death serves as a cautionary tale for others who may seek out Mt. Everest with the hope of reaching the summit.....and remind them that if they are going to attempt such an endeavor, not to do it alone. Book with a reputable trekking agency where you have all the bells and whistles.....it's worth the money.
Mountaineers know the risks. It's very, very sad just as the story of green boots is very, very sad but it is no one's fault except the people who choose to make this climb. David Sharp choose to climb alone with no oxygen or radio. No one deserves any blame except David Sharp and I don't even blame him. He lived and died his way.