I spent a month in Santorini back in 1972. It was my favorite place on Earth. It was paradise. There was only 1 hotel and i never even saw it. You had to stay in rooming houses or a room in someone’s house, for around $7 per night. I stayed in a few different rooms while there and i went there with no reservations and just found places when i got there. What i called the magic walk, the place in this video where everyone was crowded in, to take their instagram sunset pictures, there was nobody there but me any my friend. You could walk or sit and watch the sunset with a glass of ouzo and it felt like you were the only person in the world. I don’t think i would want to see it the way it is now. It has basically been destroyed by over tourism.
I think it is great that Anna at eighteen has become an ambassador for change and equality. A pragmatist like many of the islanders I guess, she still thinks of her island first. We have seen in other vlogs on DW that cities like Venice and others have seen the residents literally squeezed out. Of course while recognizing that tourism is important to the local economy, there must be a more sustainable future that benefits the residents and the environment.
I was in Santorini once for a conference. I noticed how many tourists actually used the public transport there, and most bus departures left passengers behind, despite only operating once per hour and often being over 30 years old. It is possible to do the island on a budget, and affordable take-out places existed.
I've been to other Greek islands, but not Santorini. They’re stunning and still hold top-tier status on my personal island ranking. This documentary is a great way to get some local insights-it's almost like a mini vacation, minus the crowds and overpriced cocktails.
For all its problems, Greece is an absolutely enchanting place. I've even made a few feeble efforts to learn some of the language, which to me is one of the most beautiful, but I confess it's so complex I've not made much headway. I actually live in a part of the United States that once had large numbers of Greek immigrants. In hindsight it's a bit difficult too fathom, but I suppose if you're living in desperate poverty even America's horrid Rust Belt must have looked good. Anyway, thanks for sharing this young woman's story and I wish her the best of luck.
It might be hard to imagine now but back then (decades back), before tourism became a big thing, people from all those small Aegean islands were really poor because the small islands didn't have fertile land to cultivate and people relied on fishing for income or they left to work at cargo ships or ever migrated to places like the USA. Big islands like Naxos and Chios were a different story because they always had farming income so a bigger economy to sustain them
I’ve been to 47 countries and the Greek islands is still my favorite place in the world. But I don’t think I would go to Santorini anymore. I would find another island with fewer tourists
@@thehpw Travel with an action plan to do something genuinely positive for the places and/or people you visit, or stay home and do the same there. Consumption-centered tourism demeans everyone involved in it, including you.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 So why are you judging and making rude comments? How can you know that my style of travel is consumption-centered? How do you know if I'm not doing things genuinely positive? Please tell me what righteous travel endeavors you've accomplished!
Santorini is a nightmare of mindless, environmentally destructive mass tourism, especially when a cruise ship is in port. I pity the people who live there.
Unpopular opinion: locals in Santorini (and other popular Greek islands) have only themselves to blame for the majority of their problems, they have become greedy imposing outrageous prices on tourists and Greeks. They deny long term accommodation to the civil servants (teachers, doctors etc) to profit from short term lease to tourists - there have been cases of teachers sleeping in their cars for weeks unable to afford a single room in Santorini. They have the means to solve most of the issues themselves yet they seem to be more interested in profiting and blame the government for everything.
You are referring to locals but the majority of people that make businesses in islands like Santorini and Mykonos are not locals but investors, Greeks from other places or foreigners. These islands were really poor islands with no agriculture or other resources, that is why the tourism grew fast there. The locals were accommodating and welcoming, for example in Mykonos they were welcome to homosexuals while in other places they wouldn’t be acceptable back then. What I am saying is locals were poor that is why they welcomed tourism but then foreigners and investors came and they lost control.
Apparently Santorini locals have no say in the matter and I've seen videos where they've expressed that the government in Athens won't do anything to stall the overtourism in the area.
I visited Santorini for a while and didn't have the best experience I guess because was really busy time, not much to see on the island but I guarantee the sunset view was unique.
Santorini island is the definition of mass tourism but general the problem is everywhere in the country. I live in Athens but even to my home city Preveza(west Greece) where i born and grow up until 18 y.o had very low tourism in past and specially family and chill visitors but even this change in favor of mass tourism industry. I miss old good days when summers was relaxing,happy and the the cost was affordable for locals and visitors.
Hi @christos1917! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Hopefully there are still dreamlike places in Greece that are not yet too much affected by mass tourism
I was just about to go there then knowing Greek islands I would have struggled without a car and Santorini is not friendly for cars therefore I chose Thessaloniki.
AAAAHH the selfie generation , the smart phone has brought out the " Narcissist " in so many people ! Nauseating would be an understatement in my opinion
Tdk ada nama iksan.....harus di awali iksan nya jelas misal rhode ke rudi jika klu santo itu bukan iksan jadi dia mati atau ada atau tdk juga tdk pengaruh buat dunia manusia ga penting gitulah....
The Greek people shown here are talking way to quietly! 😂 Seriously, I’ve been to Greece and it’s nice place but they need to clean up their cities like Athens and Thessaloniki….
I’d way rather be around Somalis and Pakistanis than disgusting wealthy tourists from countries like the US, Israel, Western Europe etc. way better food for one thing.
I live in a small resort town that draws 1.5 million tourists a year. I laugh when locals whine that all the jobs are in hospitality. They simply cannot fathom that making beds and flipping burgers are just the small first steps toward a highly lucrative career. Tourists are MONEY!! (:
In such a short video about life in Santorini, your channel thought it logical and necessary to include the stereotypical references to the infamous "patriarchy". This topic has become old and boring. Change your repertoire. Why didn't you have Anna talk about "green growth"? It would have been more... interesting.🤣
Καλά αδερφέ τι καλύτερο περίμενες από το Deutsche Welle, οι τύποι είναι αστείοι. Ούτε καν έδειξαν την δυσκολία της καθημερινότητας των ντόπιων στο νησί. Μιλάμε ότι να ναι!
@@Hellas7Piraeus88 Αν τους πεις ότι έχουν κάποια ατζέντα το αρνούνται κατηγορηματικά. Είναι πασιφανές όμως πως έχουν. Ένα 18χρονο μιλάει εντελώς τυχαία (;) σε ένα παγκόσμιας εμβέλειας κανάλι για αυτά ακριβώς τα θέματα που μιλάνε όλες οι δυτικές κυβερνήσεις. Φυσικά και την επέλεξαν για αυτόν τον λόγο.
The video was kinda put to a halt with all of the patriarchy talk. Its so sad to see young people worldwide put their focus on such a nebulous idea. This is 2024. Not 1824 or even 1924. That doesn't mean sexism doesnt exist. But dramatically overstated.
Just the usual “my parents are stupid” nonsense. Dress it up however you’d like. Greece has been around for a couple millennia and there is nothing new under the sun.
This video is not realistic much to opportunistic. You should also show the disadvantages of this island: My comments: Passenger Ship Sea Diamond sank in 2007 in front of Santorini and still on about 80 meters in the sea …. means a ticking time bob ❗️Most of the Greeks are not very interested in protecting their environment !! The landfill is exactly beside Fira / capitol of Santorini. When a storm comes up all the plastics are in the air. No waste incineration ? Almost no trash cans. They are not taking care of cats and dogs, many street dogs and cats. Way to expensive, they exploit tourists !!! The roads are in a bad condition, very slippery regarding also humidity / Many accidents Medical service insufficient ! Almost no parkings ! Unhealthy island regarding sulfur in the air / because of Kouloubus, the volcano under sea water surface. The Greeks don’t invest money in their infrastructure. Live on that island to see what is really goin on. Don’t believe such advertising clips. Thera/Santorini is a stop over location but not a holiday location.
As usual on DW, the interview has to show some discurse from the political left , feminism and patriarchy. Why do not the girls work in construction or fishing like the rest of the guys?
Hi there, societal bias has caused generations of women to feel as though they aren’t strong enough/ incapable to do jobs in construction and manually gruelling jobs. A lack of positive female role models within male dominated fields of work leads to young girls not being able to believe that they can work in such spaces, particularly if they’re not educated on these job roles in the first place.
OMG, the 'patriarchy', so dangerous..🤣🤣 Those who worry about the 'patriarchy' really have nothing important to do in life, sorry for the honesty. Go to university, get good grades and work hard to improve your situation. The best things in life are hard to attain and nobody will knock on your door to offer anything to you!! Now fill your boots and make a name for yourself because complaining about the 'patriarchy' really will not change your life for the better. There's been no shortage of stupidity in Western Europe in the last few generations.
I spent a month in Santorini back in 1972. It was my favorite place on Earth. It was paradise. There was only 1 hotel and i never even saw it. You had to stay in rooming houses or a room in someone’s house, for around $7 per night. I stayed in a few different rooms while there and i went there with no reservations and just found places when i got there. What i called the magic walk, the place in this video where everyone was crowded in, to take their instagram sunset pictures, there was nobody there but me any my friend. You could walk or sit and watch the sunset with a glass of ouzo and it felt like you were the only person in the world. I don’t think i would want to see it the way it is now. It has basically been destroyed by over tourism.
Not everyone is 100 years old and was able to see it in 1972
@@noteverythingisaboutyou hahahahhaha im crying
During the junta eh? Says a lot about you.
@@hungrygrimalkin5610 not at all
sounds really like paradise with only one hotel
I think it is great that Anna at eighteen has become an ambassador for change and equality. A pragmatist like many of the islanders I guess, she still thinks of her island first. We have seen in other vlogs on DW that cities like Venice and others have seen the residents literally squeezed out. Of course while recognizing that tourism is important to the local economy, there must be a more sustainable future that benefits the residents and the environment.
I was in Santorini once for a conference. I noticed how many tourists actually used the public transport there, and most bus departures left passengers behind, despite only operating once per hour and often being over 30 years old. It is possible to do the island on a budget, and affordable take-out places existed.
I've been to other Greek islands, but not Santorini. They’re stunning and still hold top-tier status on my personal island ranking. This documentary is a great way to get some local insights-it's almost like a mini vacation, minus the crowds and overpriced cocktails.
For all its problems, Greece is an absolutely enchanting place. I've even made a few feeble efforts to learn some of the language, which to me is one of the most beautiful, but I confess it's so complex I've not made much headway. I actually live in a part of the United States that once had large numbers of Greek immigrants. In hindsight it's a bit difficult too fathom, but I suppose if you're living in desperate poverty even America's horrid Rust Belt must have looked good. Anyway, thanks for sharing this young woman's story and I wish her the best of luck.
Thanks for you comment.
It might be hard to imagine now but back then (decades back), before tourism became a big thing, people from all those small Aegean islands were really poor because the small islands didn't have fertile land to cultivate and people relied on fishing for income or they left to work at cargo ships or ever migrated to places like the USA. Big islands like Naxos and Chios were a different story because they always had farming income so a bigger economy to sustain them
come visit Tukey as well sometime. We would love to have you. Its very similar to greece.
@@safarbadalov1896 😭
Which part of the US?
I’ve been to 47 countries and the Greek islands is still my favorite place in the world. But I don’t think I would go to Santorini anymore. I would find another island with fewer tourists
Indeed, Santorini is very touristy. But still is enchanting :)
Yes. Go to another island and turn it in to yet another Santorini . . . genius.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 What is your plan? Stay at home and do nothing?
@@thehpw Travel with an action plan to do something genuinely positive for the places and/or people you visit, or stay home and do the same there. Consumption-centered tourism demeans everyone involved in it, including you.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 So why are you judging and making rude comments? How can you know that my style of travel is consumption-centered? How do you know if I'm not doing things genuinely positive? Please tell me what righteous travel endeavors you've accomplished!
Santorini is a nightmare of mindless, environmentally destructive mass tourism, especially when a cruise ship is in port. I pity the people who live there.
What do you think of Anna's experience?
Unpopular opinion: locals in Santorini (and other popular Greek islands) have only themselves to blame for the majority of their problems, they have become greedy imposing outrageous prices on tourists and Greeks. They deny long term accommodation to the civil servants (teachers, doctors etc) to profit from short term lease to tourists - there have been cases of teachers sleeping in their cars for weeks unable to afford a single room in Santorini. They have the means to solve most of the issues themselves yet they seem to be more interested in profiting and blame the government for everything.
You are referring to locals but the majority of people that make businesses in islands like Santorini and Mykonos are not locals but investors, Greeks from other places or foreigners. These islands were really poor islands with no agriculture or other resources, that is why the tourism grew fast there. The locals were accommodating and welcoming,
for example in Mykonos they were welcome to homosexuals while in other places they wouldn’t be acceptable back then. What I am saying is locals were poor that is why they welcomed tourism but then foreigners and investors came and they lost control.
Apparently Santorini locals have no say in the matter and I've seen videos where they've expressed that the government in Athens won't do anything to stall the overtourism in the area.
Ok so what other industry should they develop
People are greedy all over the world. Greed is a drug.
And they think migrants will make living cheaper😂
I grew up in a 'paradise' island. Mallorca.
Will never go back.
Oke..Sta Arxidia Mas 👍
Can I ask why?
If I had to go with what I’ve seen on RUclips she would be wearing a white flowy dress haha
Greece is so gorgeous and so the people 💖
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Bravooo!
❤❤❤❤❤ very informative❤❤
Is there a hospital in Santorini, or do you have to go to Athens for that
I visited Santorini for a while and didn't have the best experience I guess because was really busy time, not much to see on the island but I guarantee the sunset view was unique.
when come surabaya? did they never first time indonesia?
Santorini island is the definition of mass tourism but general the problem is everywhere in the country.
I live in Athens but even to my home city Preveza(west Greece) where i born and grow up until 18 y.o had very low tourism in past and specially family and chill visitors but even this change in favor of mass tourism industry.
I miss old good days when summers was relaxing,happy and the the cost was affordable for locals and visitors.
Hi @christos1917! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Hopefully there are still dreamlike places in Greece that are not yet too much affected by mass tourism
I was curious was she saying the patriarchy is really bad in Greece or was she talking just about Santorini? Good on her anyway.
From my experience, it's especially bad in the rural areas or in small islands.
I love what these women were saying about the patriarchy!
I was just about to go there then knowing Greek islands I would have struggled without a car and Santorini is not friendly for cars therefore I chose Thessaloniki.
4:55 As a Greek I could never imagine that the patriarchy would finally reach Santorini in 2024. Maybe the men's rights in Mykonos is next?
Men already have all the rights they need
Χαχχααχ
She is only 18? She looks like a mid 20s woman. Girls mature a lot these days.
I was there decades ago. I rented a small motorcycle and ran out of gas in a more remote part of the island.
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Larnaca and Paphos are two of the best places in Cyprus but real peace is in Paphos ❤❤❤😊
bravooo !
Cool basketball women team and difficult to keep life normal... Overwhelm millions of people come for trip
Not much to do.. with all that beautiful sea around, I would live in the water
In the winter?
@ even at night.. just get a beautiful girl to keep you warm when the water gets to cold
AAAAHH the selfie generation , the smart phone has brought out the " Narcissist " in so many people ! Nauseating would be an understatement in my opinion
After reading the comments I decided not to watch the video. Thank you.
Tdk ada nama iksan.....harus di awali iksan nya jelas misal rhode ke rudi jika klu santo itu bukan iksan jadi dia mati atau ada atau tdk juga tdk pengaruh buat dunia manusia ga penting gitulah....
You should give these people what they want and not go there for tourism.
3:53
sampaikan salam ku pada Yanni😊
ΕΙΝΑΙ ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΟΣ!!!
A "patriarchy" discussion in a video about Santorini.
This is from a German media outlet, right?
أنا سعيد لأن ألمانيا ستصبح خلافة قريبًا.
anna queenara
I rather live here :)
The Greek people shown here are talking way to quietly! 😂 Seriously, I’ve been to Greece and it’s nice place but they need to clean up their cities like Athens and Thessaloniki….
Its chris from mrbeast
thickk
Capitalism, so much tourism and not a penny on infastructure, local rich lords are happy though. She is one.
What are you talking about? Looks like great infrastructure. Waah, all we have is free healthcare and bad infrastructure.
10,000 Somalis and Pakistanis are needed there. C'mon EU - diversity is a our greatest strength!
lol
Only Germany like these people
they are everywhere in EU today man.. ...even to the mountain tops...even in caves of Europe you will find a African,Arab and Asian...pathetic EU!
I’d way rather be around Somalis and Pakistanis than disgusting wealthy tourists from countries like the US, Israel, Western Europe etc. way better food for one thing.
I live in a small resort town that draws 1.5 million tourists a year. I laugh when locals whine that all the jobs are in hospitality.
They simply cannot fathom that making beds and flipping burgers are just the small first steps toward a highly lucrative career. Tourists are MONEY!! (:
Tourists are money, of course, but there are drawbacks of a micro economy largely based on it.
@@dweuromaxx
No kidding, and those drawbacks won't change. Adapt or move. LOL (:
@@ardiris2715 Wise words sir haha.
In such a short video about life in Santorini, your channel thought it logical and necessary to include the stereotypical references to the infamous "patriarchy". This topic has become old and boring. Change your repertoire. Why didn't you have Anna talk about "green growth"? It would have been more... interesting.🤣
Καλά αδερφέ τι καλύτερο περίμενες από το Deutsche Welle, οι τύποι είναι αστείοι. Ούτε καν έδειξαν την δυσκολία της καθημερινότητας των ντόπιων στο νησί. Μιλάμε ότι να ναι!
@@Hellas7Piraeus88 Αν τους πεις ότι έχουν κάποια ατζέντα το αρνούνται κατηγορηματικά. Είναι πασιφανές όμως πως έχουν. Ένα 18χρονο μιλάει εντελώς τυχαία (;) σε ένα παγκόσμιας εμβέλειας κανάλι για αυτά ακριβώς τα θέματα που μιλάνε όλες οι δυτικές κυβερνήσεις. Φυσικά και την επέλεξαν για αυτόν τον λόγο.
@@Dimitris83 Έτσι ακριβώς φίλε μου!
The video was kinda put to a halt with all of the patriarchy talk. Its so sad to see young people worldwide put their focus on such a nebulous idea. This is 2024. Not 1824 or even 1924. That doesn't mean sexism doesnt exist. But dramatically overstated.
There were like 4 Sentences in the video.
Greece has deeply ingrained family patriarchal structures, so criticisms is appropriate
Just the usual “my parents are stupid” nonsense. Dress it up however you’d like. Greece has been around for a couple millennia and there is nothing new under the sun.
Hi, our protagonist is talking about her experience of societal structures in her country.
@@dweuromaxx You’re not going to get away so easily. This was edited. You chose which scenes to air.
@@nateisrightgetting away with it from angry men I presume? Well let’s find out 😊
This video is not realistic much to opportunistic.
You should also show the disadvantages of this island:
My comments:
Passenger Ship Sea Diamond sank in 2007 in front of Santorini and still on about 80 meters in the sea …. means a ticking time bob ❗️Most of the Greeks are not very interested in protecting their environment !!
The landfill is exactly beside Fira / capitol of Santorini. When a storm comes up all the plastics are in the air. No waste incineration ?
Almost no trash cans.
They are not taking care of cats and dogs, many street dogs and cats.
Way to expensive, they exploit tourists !!!
The roads are in a bad condition, very slippery regarding also humidity /
Many accidents
Medical service insufficient !
Almost no parkings !
Unhealthy island regarding sulfur in the air / because of Kouloubus, the volcano under sea water surface.
The Greeks don’t invest money in their infrastructure.
Live on that island to see what is really goin on. Don’t believe such advertising clips.
Thera/Santorini is a stop over location but not a holiday location.
*Sorry on 107 meters !!
As usual on DW, the interview has to show some discurse from the political left , feminism and patriarchy. Why do not the girls work in construction or fishing like the rest of the guys?
Hi there, societal bias has caused generations of women to feel as though they aren’t strong enough/ incapable to do jobs in construction and manually gruelling jobs. A lack of positive female role models within male dominated fields of work leads to young girls not being able to believe that they can work in such spaces, particularly if they’re not educated on these job roles in the first place.
This comment literally doesn't make sense.
"Life as a teen" is grammatically incorrect. "Living as a teen" would be ok.
I, as a native English speaker and a linguist, had to think about this with furrowed brow before I saw your point. It's a bit pedantic to be honest.
Who thought that was Ava kris Tyson
Τίνος είσαι εσύ;
Καύλα είναι η Αννούλα❤
OMG, the 'patriarchy', so dangerous..🤣🤣 Those who worry about the 'patriarchy' really have nothing important to do in life, sorry for the honesty. Go to university, get good grades and work hard to improve your situation. The best things in life are hard to attain and nobody will knock on your door to offer anything to you!! Now fill your boots and make a name for yourself because complaining about the 'patriarchy' really will not change your life for the better. There's been no shortage of stupidity in Western Europe in the last few generations.
easy to say as a man. ignorance. your comment is exactly why this topic need to be discussed!
@@KL-ck2cd The topic has been discussed for years, but your point hasn't stuck up.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dw please do Malta 🇲🇹
Hi @anniecassar8883! Thank you, we'll see :)
@ thank you! I would love that!
@@dweuromaxx Can you also do a similar report on the views of the inhabitants of Balearic Islands on tourists?