Just thank you... -33 Celsius in Winnipeg Canada tonight, if it wasn't for your video I would have rented a hotel tonight. I cleaned out the carbon and just reinstalled the heater. Current temp in my bus at install 0 degrees. Heater is blowin hot. I owe you a pint...or ten. Thanks again & cheers
Well, I tore my heater apart three times before finding your video I saw 2 years ago. I had the white smoke out of the exhaust and intake. Cleaned it 3 times, more places each time, the fourth time I went directly after that little 1/8th inch ish hole by the screen, cleaned that out with carb cleaner and it fired right up. Thanks for the video, I now have a backup heater again.
Great video! First time I understood that the reason for the white smoke is that the flame did not start and the fuel is only grilled by the glow plug, due to the blocked little hole, which causes that there is no ignition flame and no real burning of the diesel
Thank you for making this video. My “new” heater instantly started to act like this and your information helped me repair it. Turns out they sent me one that was FULL of debris and gunk, probably just gave me someone else’s return. SMH. You’re a lifesaver!!
THANK YOU for posting this. Have a very similar German made heater in my mobile crane cab. Cold snap coming this week, and I really needed to get it working. Drained diesel, cleaned the line and filter, still no heat just smoke. This video finally helped me figure out what needed to be done. Took it apart and cleaned it up good this evening, and I have heat just in time for an icy work week!
Had the exact same issues, followed up his video and now works perfect! If you ever do a video with the recommended settings on your controller it would be very much appreciated 😅
I have tried for 2 weeks to get my heater working and no-one could give me advise to fix it but I then saw the title of this video was my problem so watched it and no-one had mentioned the little vent hole in the glow pin hole to me. I removed the glow pin, found and cleaned out the little hole and away it went. Thank you.
Thank you David, I bought a Parking Heater in January this year and I'm very pleased with it. BUT! I've read so many bad comments about these CDH . Your video is very reassuring that these heaters can be easily repaired.
Billy Connolly does night heaters !! Great videos though I have to say. Ive had a few issues myself with carbon build up . I've found there is usually some other problem that leads to premature carbon build up like low power due to battery voltage being low in first place and further volts drop through over length wiring of wrong section cable or incorrect plumbing allowing air to hide in joints , filters and pumps . Brilliant heaters when installed and used correctly though .
I had the same thing when the exhaust run on my heater in the garage was too long. Exhaust blocked and the heater got flooded. Unblocked exhaust, still a smoke machine. Figured the fuel air mix was off so I let it try to start and blew down the intake as hard as I could. Smoke, Smoke, smoke, POP! whooosh. Let it run as hot as possible and it was fine. It only took about 2 days for the smell of Diesel fog to dissipate....
I'm rebuilding mine right now, fan motor locked up, replaced burner, glow plug, gaskets, of course I cleaned it as well, all while waiting on the fan to show up which was back ordered 2 weeks! 🥶❄️.
Another thank you my bunk heater quit last year it would come on click click shut off white smoke. After watching your video took it upon myself to pull it out and see if I could find the issue. It was easy got it apart that plug hole on the side you was talking about was my issue I cleaned it out, Clean the glow plug tip put it together and it fired right up. Shut it off several times to see if it continue to work and it does hot hot hot thank you so much again for your video.
David, Also worth getting the burn chamber REALLY clean and bone dry by heating it up with a blow torch. Once cool, reassemble. Its amazing the clouds of smoke you'll get from very back of chamber with a blow torch (where its almost impossible to clean) and it gives an even greater chance of a successful start up. From what I've gleaned, the hidden part of the burn chamber is composed of a ring of welding blanket (carbon felt) which can absorb fuel like a wick. Its held in place with stainless steel mesh. After running rich or flooding, this felt no longer soaks up diesel because its become totally gummed up with soot and residue. It sets like concrete in there and the fuel can't catch fire and invariably drips out the exhaust or air inlet. Carb cleaner (or cellulose thinners) will definitely aid cleaning the burn chamber but the blowtorch is the surest way of restoring the absorbency of the carbon felt, and its super fast. You usually get flame out or E8 error after the white smoke which is often attributed to fuel when sometimes what it needs is a proper clean - and/or as in this case, clearing of blocked holes.
Thank you so much for posting this video mine was chock-a-block with dust and now working perfectly thank you.. I have ordered a clean as snorkel intake for it
Thank you for the video! I would have never known that little air hole was there, I took out my glow plug and sure enough, it was plugged up. I removed the screen also, but that seemed ok. I've been pretty good with running mine at full blast every few days to help keep the burn chamber somewhat clean. Cheers!
MY HEATER HAD LESS THAN 1 GALLON BURNED THROUGH IT ,AND I REMOVED THE GLOW PLUG AND STUCK AN L SHAPED PIECE OF WIRE THROUGH THE AIR HOLE AND CLEANED IT OUT, AND IT FIRED RIGHT UP, THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION!
Love this vid. I purchased a diesel heater that has yet to arrive and was wondering how user friendly they were to take apart and service. I built my own waste oil heater for my shop out of scrap over a decade ago. These are not real complicated. I think I will be happy with mine.
Thank you for the great video's I am going through them as I get time just wanted to mention something about my own experience with one of the heater's that also got full of soot after only 3 days I cleaned it and ran at full power for 4 days and it stopped working I striped it down again and cleaned as full of soot but this time I noticed my fan had 2 magnet's on it so I changed the setting SN1 to SN2 and now it runs great ... It seems the brain thought the fan was going faster than it was and delivering to much fuel , hope this helps someone,keep up the great work. HAPPY NEW YEAR 🥳
A 5kw heater I've been using for a couple years began smoking on startup but always started on it's automatic second try. Internal inspection showed no carbon buildup, mesh was clean, and the small hole by the glow plug was unobstructed. The motherboard was the problem. Replacing it fixed the smoke issue.
That's weird... I just posted my comment above. Exactly the same as yours. Mine still starts up on the 2nd. try and I have 2 other New units that I have never even fired up... I may just replace the whole unit and then dive into this one I have been using for nearly 3 years now.
I had 2 units (blue font LCD) that were an absolute nightmare for this same reason. Clean burn chamber, glow plug, atomizing screen. Still struggled to start. Canned them both and replaced with units w the red LCD and 0 issues since
Hi i have Brand new but been in storage for couple of years heater that looks identical to the one in the video. Just fitted it. Has managed to fire up a couple of times but mostly makes white smoke with explosions happening every 30 seconds or so. Voltage is about 13v dc. Roars quite loudly when it does fire up. Mark
My one drips oil from the intake but only when it is run on a mixture of engine oil and diesel, doesn't do it when run on strait diesel, any suggestions on what may be going on, it is a new heater with the new controller like the black one in this video only it has a spanner emblem where the others have a asterisk, none of the codes work only 1234 and it gives you some strange settings.
I have a question, my diesel heater starts fine and runs for about 15 mins then all the sudden the fan slows down to a crawl even with it on full blast and it starts to dump smoke out the exhaust, any suggestions?
Thank you. I've been wondering what goes on inside, it's basically a mini "salamander heater" we call it. Like a big orange job site heater with k1 in a tank on the bottom. It's like that but inside its own own heat exchanger. Brilliant
Kind of. Salamander, Torpedo, diesel space heaters use compressed air (compressor built into fan motor) to blow (through a nozzle) a mix of air and diesel which is then ignited. These little diesel heaters use the hot surface of the burn chamber to vapourise the diesel which then mixes with the air from the fan and burns inside. So they are similar in that they burn diesel, but have a long startup and shutdown compared to the Salamander which can deliver instant heat.
@@DavidMcLuckie Interesting! I always thought they use the same system as oil boilers and very large (>20kw) diesel air heaters, where the burner motor drives a combustion air blower and an oil pump, that sends high pressure oil/diesel to a nozzle, that sprays it into the burn chamber as a very fine mist. On such units, the air and combustion gasses are also seperated by a large tube heat exchanger.
i was testing mine last night for couple hrs outside and it was upside down and seemed to run fine with no leak? you would think they would have a This side up sticker on it ?
Luv wacthing you work your magic I need a man like you... another great video!! Thanks, I'm about to buy one for my boat, going to tap into my diesel fuel line instead of using a provided fuel tank...
Not sure if my previous message got through. I have just installed a new heater and connection to battery gives a fault code of E-07 . I have checked the wires from the control unit to the main board one at a time and no breaks . I have checked the soldered joints on the main board marked + & - they give a reading of 13.6v as the heatervis connected direct to my leisure battery . The 3 wires from panel to board read 4.6v at both ends when all harness connected Do you have any ideas on what to check next please
Yep set to 12v . I have noticed yesterday that the voltage reading on the lcd panel reads 00.0v yet it illuminates a d I can scroll through the settings ect . Could it be possible that lcd control isn't communicating with the main board ?
That is a possibility. It used to be a blue wire that was the communications wire. There should only be four wires going from the internal ECU to the controller.
Thanks for good video. I bought one after seeing one of your videos.i have had it in my van now for over 24 months. With no problem. Thanks 😊 its a god send and for the 130 pounds I spent worth it.top branded ones are 500 plus. I even put it on when at home.why because I didn't want to de ice my windows in the morning. On a low tick over at 16 degrees. No ice and van starts 1st time.such a low battery drawer when at temperature .I thank you kind sir lol
Came here because my heater on my Merc w211 had suddenly stopped working after we started having temperatures below 0 degrees Celsius. Fortunately I figured out the issue today and boy was it foolish. The exhaust pipe had shifted off from it's hole on the bumper and its end was surrounded with 1 cm thick ice. After tearing it off and blow torching the ice off from the tube the Eberspächer started right up, but it smoked like hell for 15 minutes meaning the entire hood area was full of smoke including some smoke on the interior as well. To help others here were my symptoms: Heater fan and glow plug started normally via remote. After 30 seconds of running the diesel pump started clicking slowly. After 1.5 minutes the diesel pump and the fan gradually went crazy to the point where the clicking was really fast and the fan was super loud. After 2.5 minutes it just shut off the diesel pump and the fan started running low and quiet. If you are experiencing same type of behaving with your heater I'd recommend you to check out the exhaust pipe from both ends.
HELLOOOOOO! My Vavoer "8K" is a year old. Now throws ERROR 10, smokes like a Cummins, refuses to ignite. Replaced glow plug, same. Took it apart, was super clean inside, except a hard grey ash way down in the bottom of the burn chamber. Picked and 3 tbsp. of that out, looks clean as a whistle now. Soaked in a good carb cleaner, allowed to fully dry, reassembled. Still no joy. Am thinking that the catalyst screen in the burn chamber must be gone or ruined - everything else checks out right as rain. Your thoughts, please?
Replaced screen in glow plug chamber. I'm referring to something I'd heard of another mesh screen in the belly of the actual main burn chamber, if there is such a thing. Otherwise, I am completely stumped.
I too have heard of this other screen inside the burn chamber. But I haven't cut one open for a look yet. Did it just run fine previously and just stopped starting?
I have a D1LC and a D1LCC, The D1LCC had a fan with worn out bearings so had a noisy fan and I think it overheated as it currently does nothing when switched on so I think the ECU has locked out. Ordered a 801 controller to diagnose it/unlock the ECU. The D1LC has a good fan, starts up has a lot of white smoke. I swapped the burn chamber/heat exchanger over and it wouldn't pump fuel. I swapped the flame sensor over and it fires but doesn't produce hot air but the exhaust gets hot and the pump and fan are running at max. Tried running on paraffin and old white diesel. during shutdown when the pump stopped and the fan speed reduced slightly hot air started being produced. It's as it the fan is cooling the heat exchanger to much. The D1LC doesn't have a magnet/hall effect sensor so the ECU doesn't seem to have a way of monitoring the fan speed. Shame it doesn't work as I want to stop using my calor gas heater in my 20ft container workshop as refill prices are getting silly.
@@DavidMcLuckie turns out have a long exhaust on cause the the issue it ran grand without it on but put it on wont go but start it up without then stick back on runs perfect weird one that thanks for your help its going like a dream now
Hi, I have a problem with my heater with the pump not turning on, fan is blowing. When I try to turn off the fan continues to blow and won’t stop even after a long time. I then have to disconnect the heater to turn off. Sometimes the pump works but not always? I have changed the fuel in case it was bad fuel but still no go. Any ideas please.
Housing temperature sensor has failed. The heater still thinks it's hot and tries to cool itself down. Also won't start until it thinks it's cool again. I had one where it sometimes worked and let it light, but then once shutdown it just kept running the fan and the two blue bars on the display never went away.
My heater flames out shortly after plug goes out. Burn chamber only gets to 35-40c,then it flames out. Uts running on bio, could this be blocked breather hole
Hi I get the same thing but when I start it on second attempt I get it to fire up it seems.like the first start blows the flame out when the glow plug light goes off. Any advise
how do I know with my heater which side i can lay it on without opening it up.. the install book for my coolant heater shows all kinds of different appeciable positions.. I have issues when it is -5c or colder with it doing white smoke starts.. after about 2 or 3 tries it will fire up and run normally..
Hi man, please help me with an advice,this heater is blowing my mind,after 2 ore more hours of work the fan start to over speeding more than the maximum speed, after that the fan speed increse,decrese x 10-20 times and finally heater stops,all smoke from burn chambe are getting out on intake air filter. And most strange no error code.From your experince what could be because in dont have a start point and i see you testing this heater in all method. thanks . cheers
Hello, the video you shared is very explanatory , I have some questions, how is a metering diesel fuel pump cataloged, by pulses per second, pulses per minute, I saw a diesel fuel metering pump and it says 22ml? Thank you
if these heaters run out of diesel in the tank, or they flame out... Do they automatically turn off?!! Im in the process of installing one, Into my big shed at bottom of my garden, For my snake collection (big collection, So built and insulated a massive shed for my "snake room".... My garden is over 60m long though.. So Im hoping it will auto turn off, if it ever runs out of diesel, or flame goes out... and not just sit there constantly trying to restart itself over and over...
Mine does that exact same thing...except mine always starts up immediately when I wait about 15 minutes and try to start it up again ! I tore it apart last week to see if I could see anything wrong... it was Super clean everywhere inside of the unit (I have used it for nearly 3 years and first time taking it apart) ! I am now guessing it must be my Glow Plug ! (I should have replaced it when I had it apart and out of my van !)
Hi David, I’ve got an eberspacher gas ( petrol for you ) heater that’s been tested to confirm the ECU crapped out, causing the fuel to never ignite. Issue is the cost of a new ECU at $680 Canadian at last check. My question is: can a person manually power the glow plug & ignite the fuel by providing power with separate switches and wiring hooked up to the same wires in the harness ? If all that’s missing is the signal from the ECU, would it continue to run if both electrical signals were provided outside of the ECU ? Or is there anyone that can rebuild the ECU, for a reasonable price ? Thank you, Henry in Alberta, Canada.
If it tries to run and pumps fuel but only the glowplug is missing, I'd remove the old glowplug from the heater but leave it attached to the ECU and fit another glowplug, give it 10V and see if the heater fires up. Not sure about Canada but there are a few companies in the UK that can repair the ECUs.
I can't see how carbon inside the chamber can cause a flame out . I just finished fixing my flame out problem . Was carbon on the atomization screen and small hole just above the screen was half blocked . First go started . My chamber was compleatly spotless of carbon so it's running good for that issue .
Hi David, I have 1 of those (well 4 but 2 will not work) diesel water heater in the background (B24) but can never get it to work, The instructions I found shows you just apply power and it works but mine doesnt do anything, I can test each components using the test software but apart from that it doesnt work, can you tell me what the secret is for you getting yours to work please?
This is the part a lot of people don't know. A large amount of those Webastos are pulled from scrap cars. Which require a CANbus signal from the vehicles ECU to actually turn them on and off. Which is why we've been working on replacement controllers for the heaters - ruclips.net/video/X8AdLsXD9_U/видео.html Another option is reflashing the firmware, but again that only works if have a compatible controller in the Webasto to start with.
I’m getting a weird white solid build up in the combustion chamber and white smoke pouring out the exhaust. I’ve stripped and rebuilt and it works every time for about 2 week before the same build up comes back. Run on red and white diesel with no additives. Only other time I’ve seen build up like it was with a blocked dpf on a car. Exhaust doesn’t seem to be restricted at all. Any ideas?
@@DavidMcLuckie it's better now, I had the wrong fuel pump on it, it was off a German wabasco, too fast for the Chinese ones.. and my exhaust pipe might have been too long.. I have 2 and it seems like they carbon up lots, I have to blow in the intake with air, to get them going, about once a week, or so.
From my experience from same heater, if I use maximum pump speed, 5,4Hz it start sooting and after a while barely give any warm. And it would not start, only white smoke. If pump settings are 5.2Hz or lower then it goes on without problem. I think it does not got enough air to burner. Maybe fan speed tinkerin can help but some said that bearings will worn out quite fast if run 5000 rpm
David do you think the Chinese heaters are worth buying or do they need constant tinkering with to keep going. I like the lavnar pro but can't buy in australia.could you tell me the best Chinese model to buy appreciated. Many thinks Harry
There appear to be two kinds of diesel heater. One that dies within a few uses or straight out of the box, and the other will run for years without a single issue. There also aren't that many actual 'brands'. The last heater I bought was a Vevor brand that was all aluminium and it has so far worked fine in the camper it is installed in.
Hi excellent set of vids . I have j7st installed a heater and on connection to the battery the control panel gives a fault code of E-07 I have checked the harness from the panel to the heater 1 wire at a time and no breaks . I have opened tye case on the main board where its marked + & - and the reading is 13.8v as it's connected directly to my leisure battery the blue wire is reading 4.6v at both ends as is the black and red wire from control to the main board . Xan you recommend what to check next please
If you are the type of person that demands off the shelf perfection, then you are taking a bit of a risk. If you have a sense of adventure, an enquiring mind, have basic diy skills and access to youtube, then these are great value and a lot of fun. Once you get them properly set up they are very low maintenance.
When i prime my diesel night heater the fuel runs straight through and out of the exhaust outside my workshop, The fuel pipe will not fill after 4 prime attempts, In the past when i primed the heater my fuel line always had fuel and little bubbles in the line, Any ideas what might be wrong with the heater David please.
Is there a leak between the pump outlet and the fuel inlet on the heater? For diesel to run out of the fuel line air must be able to get in. My all in one sometimes does this when I don't clamp the fuel lines on the pump and overnight it lets the air in and fuel leaks out. But it always stills fires up as the fuel pipe is so short.
Hi David love the videos , here's a good one for you , I have a Chinese 5 kw 2 months old 300 hours use now , past few weeks seems slower to light and smoke for few minutes then lights ,now the mystery is I can smell the grey smoke coming out of the blower vents , I've checked its not from the very end of exhaust outside ,I looked underneath and its leaking right near were it joins the base / manifold outlet ,I've re done the exhaust nice strong super clamp even a wee bit of paste ,but it still puffs out a tricle of grey diesel smoke which is pulled into the gap were the silicone gasket is ,the silicone gasket is also brittle and broken only 2 months old !, any ideas were this smoke could be coming from ? I re tight end exhaust clamps 3 times to check ,it wasn't them it seems nearer the very base of the alloy exhaust pipe ,can they crack ? Its bizarre,and dangerous suppose not using it obviously till fixed , I can not see any cracks in the exhaust port ,the clamp was tight on the exhaust tube no play , I think its been doing this a while but I only can smell and see it when its starting up, Starts up .. glow plug on ,pump on ,then grey smoke then maybe 2 minutes it fires up and runs ok , the smell goes away from blower vents but I guess it could still be emitting invisible gases once its running warm , any ideas I remain baffled 😀
If your combustion gasses are mixing with the hot air you might have a leak/crack in the heater housing that seals up again once hot. Or one of the gaskets that seal the combustion chamber could have failed and is also leaking. Do you have a carbon monoxide alarm?
@@DavidMcLuckie yes got alarm ,took heater out the black silicone seal and the fuel inlet pipe square seal are brittle and cracked ! 3 month old heater ! The smoke may be coming from the fuel pipe seal not sure yet till I put new seals on and test ,seems very odd the seals look like rubber to me, and the smell I was getting was like sunburnt diesel rather than exhaust smell
Helloooo David Have you had any dealings with the Webasto type water heaters like the ones used as pre heaters on diesel cars, your videos on the air heaters are brilliant as you put it all into simple terms for the average bod out there (webasto vids would be good) Cheers Grahame
My brand new heater is taking around 6 or 7 attempts before it starts up - until then I get an e03 error message every time (about 90 seconds or so after pressing the on button). After 6 or 7 tries it starts up and runs no problem - then when I turn it off I get another e03 error message during the shut off process Any ideas what this may be? It's connected directly to a brand new fully chanlrged lithium battery so I don't think it's a voltage problem. Maybe I should replace the glow plug?
Hi David I need help please there isn’t a hole next to my glow plug and my heater is brand new but smoking like a train I’ve taken it apart and it’s all clean changed the atomiser just incase after taking apart it’s slightly better but still smoking looked at your RUclips videos on the setting for a 5kw but still the same the only thing I can see is no hole any suggestions please thanks
@@DavidMcLuckie it runs but smokes --- when I first set it up followed the set by step guide ie prime it then start it but a error code came up after first starting it e08 so look at the code chart air in fuel line noticed air bubble so I primed it again it started but loads of smoke so I took it as to much fuel in the burner after priming it thought it would burn off but 3 days later still smoking like a good 1 so stripped it and changed the atomiser but noticed there wasn’t a air hole on the side like you’ve mentioned so just wondering if this could be the problem air/diesel ratio
@@DavidMcLuckie hi David sorry after taking it apart again yesterday there was a hole wasn’t on the side it was at the back missed it on first strip down probably cause I wasn’t looking for it so stripped it down again yesterday all clean glow plug was clean not caked in anything slight whitish where it gets hot chamber was clean too and burner was spotless but it’s still smoking tried changing the settings like on you video but still the same I’m lost mate
@@DavidMcLuckie Cleared it all out last night use brake fluid and I did a good job my settings are on 35 so turned up full but again today my carbon monoxide was bleeping like mad any other suggestions welcome
So. I just faced down my demonic smoke belcher and might have been victorious. I blew in the intake as somebody mentioned, not plugged solid. Had already replaced glow screen and the plug today as it was damaged from overheating itself. Blasted a bunch of electronics cleaner in the glow hole followed by compressed air previously. Shot it with more tonight, rammed the plug in and set it to go. Sprayed carb cleaner up the intake a few times and got nice fireballs a few times. Noted chunks of cokey soot rattling out the exhaust. Got nicely heated up and seemed to quit smoking so bad. I had left the shroud off and it went E05 overheat which may have further contributed to self cleaning. Now its actually heating up again and all but zero smoke.... wow.
Well hell I just got back to find it shut down again. E08. It likes that one. It ran like brand new for 2 nights after I gave it the shenanigans. Do you suspect it is still plugged up or something else? Its currently trying to light, glow plug indicator and the pump are going, but doesn't want to light off.
Good grief. Forgot how difficult my install was. The hatred is unreal. The quality is absurd. Like everything is wrong. I only even used this thing a couple of months. Plugged up, turns out the pump isn't er, pumping despite doing so merrily, so recently. I already properly disposed of the provided filter and put on a huge canister filter with a water bowl. The last time I messed with it seemed the blower motor was acting stuck This is just so much fun its incredible
im now having similar issues with mine but your video has helped my knowledge to whats inside and how to strip and rebuild it, plus your handy tip if the small air hole at the glow plug. thank you.
Hi David, is the air inlet hole near the glow plug accessible for cleaning without dismantling the combustion chamber. I was wondering if by removing the glow plug and using a right angled probe to dislodge any built up grime in the air hole would work ?
If you run kerosene or even better the synthetic version every once in awhile, you’ll never have to open it up to clean it. A few capfuls of Automatic Transmission fluid in every tankful will make a world of difference
It would certainly help keep it clean. A good tune would also mean less carbon build up. A combination of the two should then mean almost no need to clean the heater. :)
I currently only have a heater that will start when I add brake clean to the air intake on start up. Also running 30 70 mix of hydraulic oil and diesel which may also be the culprit
I've been pouring liquid oven cleaner into the burned and it sure cleans up very well. Is there any reason not to do this. I'm also using carburettor cleaner aerosol.
just be aware that if the tank is above the pump, a leak in the fuel line from tank to pump could very well lead to the tank siphoning out all over your vehicle
@@bigoldgrizzly great timing. I posted this question 10 months ago when I was considering buying a van to build. I just pulled the trigger on an Astro van last week. I'm still leaning towards putting it on the roof. Maybe I'll install a motorcycle style petcock to turn the fuel off when not needed.
So... my heater is starting to drive me insane. It starts, the glow plug glows, the air moves, the fuel pump starts, the fuel ignites and the unit starts to warm up. So far, so good. But, after a couple of minutes the pump stops pumping for some reason, the unit gets starved of fuel and the flame extinguishes, it throws up the E-08 error and starts shutting down. During the shutdown process the glow plug glows again, the pump miraculously restarts, the flame reignites and then it continues shutting down again. Do you have any idea as to why the pump will shut itself off? The display shows that it should still be pumping but there is nothing going on with it. Incidentally, if I try priming the unit the pump will only go for about 10 seconds before I have to turn it off and back on again to start it again. The pump is new, the glow plug is new, the burner is new, the fuel filter and hoses are new and I've cleaned out the inside recently. I'm loathe to replace the entire unit but think my options are running out...
E-08 is a flame out. The heater has not detected a rise in temperature in the startup time. If the unit is starting to heat up I'd suspect the body temperature sensor is either faulty or not in contact with the heater body.
@@DavidMcLuckie thanks for the reply, I think it's sorted now after replacing the pump again (for apparently no reason...). I went into the settings and reduced the min and max Hz for the pump and RPM for the fan and then buggered about with some other settings (which I believe is the speed sensor setting) and it seems to work now. The pump now continues operating throughout and the heater gets the van nice and warm! Your videos have been really bloody useful though as I was on the verge of binning the entire thing and buying a new one...
Thanks for the great informational videos on the heaters. The burner tube on my no name "8kw" Chinese heater screws apart so you can remove and clean the metal wool and screen sleeve in the base (not referring to the little diffuser screen around the glow plug). All the others I've seen are one piece or welded. Any idea where I can get a spare metal wool sleeve?
I do have a picture but don't know how to send it to you. Sorry for not seeing your reply for several months. I also found new mesh inserts on eBay 5 for $15 US.
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Just thank you...
-33 Celsius in Winnipeg Canada tonight, if it wasn't for your video I would have rented a hotel tonight. I cleaned out the carbon and just reinstalled the heater. Current temp in my bus at install 0 degrees.
Heater is blowin hot.
I owe you a pint...or ten.
Thanks again & cheers
Well, I tore my heater apart three times before finding your video I saw 2 years ago. I had the white smoke out of the exhaust and intake. Cleaned it 3 times, more places each time, the fourth time I went directly after that little 1/8th inch ish hole by the screen, cleaned that out with carb cleaner and it fired right up.
Thanks for the video, I now have a backup heater again.
Great video! First time I understood that the reason for the white smoke is that the flame did not start and the fuel is only grilled by the glow plug, due to the blocked little hole, which causes that there is no ignition flame and no real burning of the diesel
Yes, exactly
Thank you for making this video. My “new” heater instantly started to act like this and your information helped me repair it. Turns out they sent me one that was FULL of debris and gunk, probably just gave me someone else’s return. SMH. You’re a lifesaver!!
THANK YOU for posting this. Have a very similar German made heater in my mobile crane cab. Cold snap coming this week, and I really needed to get it working. Drained diesel, cleaned the line and filter, still no heat just smoke. This video finally helped me figure out what needed to be done. Took it apart and cleaned it up good this evening, and I have heat just in time for an icy work week!
So... White smoke, no light, check hole. Nice video, I understand my Chinese diesel heater much better now. Thanks for making it.
Absolute brilliant video, what would we do without people like you sharing stuff on you tube, thanks
Had the exact same issues, followed up his video and now works perfect! If you ever do a video with the recommended settings on your controller it would be very much appreciated 😅
I have tried for 2 weeks to get my heater working and no-one could give me advise to fix it but I then saw the title of this video was my problem so watched it and no-one had mentioned the little vent hole in the glow pin hole to me. I removed the glow pin, found and cleaned out the little hole and away it went. Thank you.
Can you please explain the changes to the settings to reduce the fuel
Thank you David, I bought a Parking Heater in January this year and I'm very pleased with it. BUT! I've read so many bad comments about these CDH . Your video is very reassuring that these heaters can be easily repaired.
maybe a video how to on controller settings especially for fuel setting 👌😊
Thank you sooooo much. Mine was smokey too, but after watching your video and removing a cup of carbon she now runs like a gem 🤙
Billy Connolly does night heaters !! Great videos though I have to say. Ive had a few issues myself with carbon build up . I've found there is usually some other problem that leads to premature carbon build up like low power due to battery voltage being low in first place and further volts drop through over length wiring of wrong section cable or incorrect plumbing allowing air to hide in joints , filters and pumps . Brilliant heaters when installed and used correctly though .
I had the same thing when the exhaust run on my heater in the garage was too long. Exhaust blocked and the heater got flooded. Unblocked exhaust, still a smoke machine. Figured the fuel air mix was off so I let it try to start and blew down the intake as hard as I could. Smoke, Smoke, smoke, POP! whooosh. Let it run as hot as possible and it was fine. It only took about 2 days for the smell of Diesel fog to dissipate....
Cool trick. Thanks!
I have the same issues time to time I start it with egr valve spray up the intake on starting it pops and back fires then smoke and starts every time.
That my friend would be a good video tutorial to make
I'm rebuilding mine right now, fan motor locked up, replaced burner, glow plug, gaskets, of course I cleaned it as well, all while waiting on the fan to show up which was back ordered 2 weeks! 🥶❄️.
Another thank you my bunk heater quit last year it would come on click click shut off white smoke. After watching your video took it upon myself to pull it out and see if I could find the issue. It was easy got it apart that plug hole on the side you was talking about was my issue I cleaned it out, Clean the glow plug tip put it together and it fired right up. Shut it off several times to see if it continue to work and it does hot hot hot thank you so much again for your video.
David, Also worth getting the burn chamber REALLY clean and bone dry by heating it up with a blow torch. Once cool, reassemble. Its amazing the clouds of smoke you'll get from very back of chamber with a blow torch (where its almost impossible to clean) and it gives an even greater chance of a successful start up. From what I've gleaned, the hidden part of the burn chamber is composed of a ring of welding blanket (carbon felt) which can absorb fuel like a wick. Its held in place with stainless steel mesh. After running rich or flooding, this felt no longer soaks up diesel because its become totally gummed up with soot and residue. It sets like concrete in there and the fuel can't catch fire and invariably drips out the exhaust or air inlet. Carb cleaner (or cellulose thinners) will definitely aid cleaning the burn chamber but the blowtorch is the surest way of restoring the absorbency of the carbon felt, and its super fast. You usually get flame out or E8 error after the white smoke which is often attributed to fuel when sometimes what it needs is a proper clean - and/or as in this case, clearing of blocked holes.
Thank you so much for posting this video mine was chock-a-block with dust and now working perfectly thank you.. I have ordered a clean as snorkel intake for it
Thank you for the video! I would have never known that little air hole was there, I took out my glow plug and sure enough, it was plugged up. I removed the screen also, but that seemed ok. I've been pretty good with running mine at full blast every few days to help keep the burn chamber somewhat clean. Cheers!
Are you running it without the screen?
MY HEATER HAD LESS THAN 1 GALLON BURNED THROUGH IT ,AND I REMOVED THE GLOW PLUG AND STUCK AN L SHAPED PIECE OF WIRE THROUGH THE AIR HOLE AND CLEANED IT OUT, AND IT FIRED RIGHT UP, THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION!
brilliant mate. having a bit of trouble with mine so you have given me some starting points to have a go at fixing it😁👍
Love this vid. I purchased a diesel heater that has yet to arrive and was wondering how user friendly they were to take apart and service. I built my own waste oil heater for my shop out of scrap over a decade ago. These are not real complicated. I think I will be happy with mine.
I bought 2 new heaters, lots of soot issues, not sure why, I use an air hose to blow them out constantly..
If you use waste oil, you really need to mix the fuel and run extremely clean oil. Any nasties and it will do this crap constantly.
Thank you for the great video's I am going through them as I get time just wanted to mention something about my own experience with one of the heater's that also got full of soot after only 3 days I cleaned it and ran at full power for 4 days and it stopped working I striped it down again and cleaned as full of soot but this time I noticed my fan had 2 magnet's on it so I changed the setting SN1 to SN2 and now it runs great ... It seems the brain thought the fan was going faster than it was and delivering to much fuel , hope this helps someone,keep up the great work. HAPPY NEW YEAR 🥳
Nice, so in reality it was getting half the air it thought it was. That's another thing I can add to my list of fault checks.
I don't know this man but he is a genius
Great video mate. A massive help to me in sorting my E10 error code. Thanks a lot.
This helped me loads, thanks for the video! My hole was blocked too
A 5kw heater I've been using for a couple years began smoking on startup but always started on it's automatic second try. Internal inspection showed no carbon buildup, mesh was clean, and the small hole by the glow plug was unobstructed. The motherboard was the problem. Replacing it fixed the smoke issue.
That's weird... I just posted my comment above. Exactly the same as yours. Mine still starts up on the 2nd. try and I have 2 other New units that I have never even fired up... I may just replace the whole unit and then dive into this one I have been using for nearly 3 years now.
I had 2 units (blue font LCD) that were an absolute nightmare for this same reason. Clean burn chamber, glow plug, atomizing screen. Still struggled to start. Canned them both and replaced with units w the red LCD and 0 issues since
Hi i have Brand new but been in storage for couple of years heater that looks identical to the one in the video. Just fitted it. Has managed to fire up a couple of times but mostly makes white smoke with explosions happening every 30 seconds or so. Voltage is about 13v dc. Roars quite loudly when it does fire up. Mark
Many thanks for the tips. Is there a good source of the burn tubes? And other spare parts like gasket sets.
eBay, AliExpress, Amazon.
@@DavidMcLuckie Many thanks.
My one drips oil from the intake but only when it is run on a mixture of engine oil and diesel, doesn't do it when run on strait diesel, any suggestions on what may be going on, it is a new heater with the new controller like the black one in this video only it has a spanner emblem where the others have a asterisk, none of the codes work only 1234 and it gives you some strange settings.
Hy need help with my webasto scania r450 i have new fire camber and spak plug but a lot of smook and dont fire
Thank you!! I was about to order a new one and drive 300 miles to the nearest shipping location
Hi.
When ya say you altered the controls.
What did you actually set the hz and fan peed to.
I have a question, my diesel heater starts fine and runs for about 15 mins then all the sudden the fan slows down to a crawl even with it on full blast and it starts to dump smoke out the exhaust, any suggestions?
Thank you. I've been wondering what goes on inside, it's basically a mini "salamander heater" we call it. Like a big orange job site heater with k1 in a tank on the bottom. It's like that but inside its own own heat exchanger. Brilliant
Kind of. Salamander, Torpedo, diesel space heaters use compressed air (compressor built into fan motor) to blow (through a nozzle) a mix of air and diesel which is then ignited. These little diesel heaters use the hot surface of the burn chamber to vapourise the diesel which then mixes with the air from the fan and burns inside. So they are similar in that they burn diesel, but have a long startup and shutdown compared to the Salamander which can deliver instant heat.
@@DavidMcLuckie Interesting! I always thought they use the same system as oil boilers and very large (>20kw) diesel air heaters, where the burner motor drives a combustion air blower and an oil pump, that sends high pressure oil/diesel to a nozzle, that sprays it into the burn chamber as a very fine mist. On such units, the air and combustion gasses are also seperated by a large tube heat exchanger.
How do you change the fuel settings
Ours has been cleaned out and still won't start but white smoke as well please help
i was testing mine last night for couple hrs outside and it was upside down and seemed to run fine with no leak? you would think they would have a This side up sticker on it ?
Any idea why my glow plug stays on constantly? The display shows the glowplug is on all the time? Many thanks
Luv wacthing you work your magic I need a man like you... another great video!! Thanks, I'm about to buy one for my boat, going to tap into my diesel fuel line instead of using a provided fuel tank...
Hi, what settings on fuel did you use?
Not sure if my previous message got through.
I have just installed a new heater and connection to battery gives a fault code of E-07 .
I have checked the wires from the control unit to the main board one at a time and no breaks .
I have checked the soldered joints on the main board marked + & - they give a reading of 13.6v as the heatervis connected direct to my leisure battery .
The 3 wires from panel to board read 4.6v at both ends when all harness connected
Do you have any ideas on what to check next please
Is the ECU set to 24V or 12V?
Yep set to 12v .
I have noticed yesterday that the voltage reading on the lcd panel reads 00.0v yet it illuminates a d I can scroll through the settings ect .
Could it be possible that lcd control isn't communicating with the main board ?
That is a possibility. It used to be a blue wire that was the communications wire. There should only be four wires going from the internal ECU to the controller.
Thanks for good video. I bought one after seeing one of your videos.i have had it in my van now for over 24 months. With no problem. Thanks 😊 its a god send and for the 130 pounds I spent worth it.top branded ones are 500 plus. I even put it on when at home.why because I didn't want to de ice my windows in the morning. On a low tick over at 16 degrees. No ice and van starts 1st time.such a low battery drawer when at temperature .I thank you kind sir lol
Came here because my heater on my Merc w211 had suddenly stopped working after we started having temperatures below 0 degrees Celsius. Fortunately I figured out the issue today and boy was it foolish. The exhaust pipe had shifted off from it's hole on the bumper and its end was surrounded with 1 cm thick ice. After tearing it off and blow torching the ice off from the tube the Eberspächer started right up, but it smoked like hell for 15 minutes meaning the entire hood area was full of smoke including some smoke on the interior as well.
To help others here were my symptoms: Heater fan and glow plug started normally via remote. After 30 seconds of running the diesel pump started clicking slowly. After 1.5 minutes the diesel pump and the fan gradually went crazy to the point where the clicking was really fast and the fan was super loud. After 2.5 minutes it just shut off the diesel pump and the fan started running low and quiet. If you are experiencing same type of behaving with your heater I'd recommend you to check out the exhaust pipe from both ends.
HELLOOOOOO! My Vavoer "8K" is a year old. Now throws ERROR 10, smokes like a Cummins, refuses to ignite. Replaced glow plug, same. Took it apart, was super clean inside, except a hard grey ash way down in the bottom of the burn chamber. Picked and 3 tbsp. of that out, looks clean as a whistle now. Soaked in a good carb cleaner, allowed to fully dry, reassembled. Still no joy. Am thinking that the catalyst screen in the burn chamber must be gone or ruined - everything else checks out right as rain. Your thoughts, please?
Replaced screen in glow plug chamber. I'm referring to something I'd heard of another mesh screen in the belly of the actual main burn chamber, if there is such a thing. Otherwise, I am completely stumped.
I too have heard of this other screen inside the burn chamber. But I haven't cut one open for a look yet.
Did it just run fine previously and just stopped starting?
I have a D1LC and a D1LCC, The D1LCC had a fan with worn out bearings so had a noisy fan and I think it overheated as it currently does nothing when switched on so I think the ECU has locked out. Ordered a 801 controller to diagnose it/unlock the ECU.
The D1LC has a good fan, starts up has a lot of white smoke. I swapped the burn chamber/heat exchanger over and it wouldn't pump fuel. I swapped the flame sensor over and it fires but doesn't produce hot air but the exhaust gets hot and the pump and fan are running at max. Tried running on paraffin and old white diesel. during shutdown when the pump stopped and the fan speed reduced slightly hot air started being produced. It's as it the fan is cooling the heat exchanger to much. The D1LC doesn't have a magnet/hall effect sensor so the ECU doesn't seem to have a way of monitoring the fan speed.
Shame it doesn't work as I want to stop using my calor gas heater in my 20ft container workshop as refill prices are getting silly.
Turns out the heat exchanger was heavily coked up with soft carbon soot, not sure if it was from running it on paraffin for the last few runs.
I have a heater that fires up fine run ok for a couple of minutes then just goes out any ideas why?
Goes out without error?
i have an issue with mine on start up when the pump kicks in it make an vibrating noise and wont start up up any ideas what this issue is
The heater or the pumps makes a vibrating noise?
@@DavidMcLuckie just after when the glow plug turns on its make the noise
@@DavidMcLuckie turns out have a long exhaust on cause the the issue it ran grand without it on but put it on wont go but start it up without then stick back on runs perfect weird one that thanks for your help its going like a dream now
How long was too long?
About 3 times the standard size exhaust
Hi, I have a problem with my heater with the pump not turning on, fan is blowing. When I try to turn off the fan continues to blow and won’t stop even after a long time. I then have to disconnect the heater to turn off. Sometimes the pump works but not always? I have changed the fuel in case it was bad fuel but still no go. Any ideas please.
Housing temperature sensor has failed. The heater still thinks it's hot and tries to cool itself down. Also won't start until it thinks it's cool again. I had one where it sometimes worked and let it light, but then once shutdown it just kept running the fan and the two blue bars on the display never went away.
My heater flames out shortly after plug goes out. Burn chamber only gets to 35-40c,then it flames out.
Uts running on bio, could this be blocked breather hole
Have you tried running on regular diesel?
My mate adds some injector cleaner in his diesel heater and it cleaned it out well, no longer blows white smoke now 👍
I've thought about running Seafoam in mine as preventative maintenance. I wonder if that would work alright
Hi I get the same thing but when I start it on second attempt I get it to fire up it seems.like the first start blows the flame out when the glow plug light goes off. Any advise
how do I know with my heater which side i can lay it on without opening it up.. the install book for my coolant heater shows all kinds of different appeciable positions.. I have issues when it is -5c or colder with it doing white smoke starts.. after about 2 or 3 tries it will fire up and run normally..
Hi man, please help me with an advice,this heater is blowing my mind,after 2 ore more hours of work the fan start to over speeding more than the maximum speed, after that the fan speed increse,decrese x 10-20 times and finally heater stops,all smoke from burn chambe are getting out on intake air filter. And most strange no error code.From your experince what could be because in dont have a start point and i see you testing this heater in all method. thanks . cheers
If there was no error then the heater had no idea what was happening. Sounds like the ECU.
Hello, the video you shared is very explanatory , I have some questions, how is a metering diesel fuel pump cataloged, by pulses per second, pulses per minute, I saw a diesel fuel metering pump and it says 22ml? Thank you
ml per 1000 pulses. So a 22ml would be 0.022ml per pulse.
if these heaters run out of diesel in the tank, or they flame out... Do they automatically turn off?!!
Im in the process of installing one, Into my big shed at bottom of my garden, For my snake collection (big collection, So built and insulated a massive shed for my "snake room"....
My garden is over 60m long though.. So Im hoping it will auto turn off, if it ever runs out of diesel, or flame goes out... and not just sit there constantly trying to restart itself over and over...
Yes. Once they've flamed out while running they stop. They only try to relight during the start phase if they don't light the first time.
What about white smoke from air intake then failure to ignite? Brand new burn chamber/fan etc?
Is the fan spinning?
What are the controller settings supposed to be?
Hi David great video ours ran for 1/2 he then started blowing smoke error 09 ,so I will have look inside as you have thanks again rgds Peter
have you ever had pump stop working ? my one isn't a year old yet , just wondered if normal or a one off could you help please.
Ron Norfolk.
Yes. Sometimes for no reason. And others I've dead shorted for a few minutes and they've still lived to work on. Are there any numbers on it?
Mine does that exact same thing...except mine always starts up immediately when I wait about 15 minutes and try to start it up again ! I tore it apart last week to see if I could see anything wrong... it was Super clean everywhere inside of the unit (I have used it for nearly 3 years and first time taking it apart) ! I am now guessing it must be my Glow Plug ! (I should have replaced it when I had it apart and out of my van !)
Hi David, I’ve got an eberspacher gas ( petrol for you ) heater that’s been tested to confirm the ECU crapped out, causing the fuel to never ignite. Issue is the cost of a new ECU at $680 Canadian at last check.
My question is: can a person manually power the glow plug & ignite the fuel by providing power with separate switches and wiring hooked up to the same wires in the harness ? If all that’s missing is the signal from the ECU, would it continue to run if both electrical signals were provided outside of the ECU ?
Or is there anyone that can rebuild the ECU, for a reasonable price ?
Thank you,
Henry in Alberta, Canada.
If it tries to run and pumps fuel but only the glowplug is missing, I'd remove the old glowplug from the heater but leave it attached to the ECU and fit another glowplug, give it 10V and see if the heater fires up.
Not sure about Canada but there are a few companies in the UK that can repair the ECUs.
Got me out of a right pickle this tutorial, thanks alot mate. 👍
I can't see how carbon inside the chamber can cause a flame out . I just finished fixing my flame out problem . Was carbon on the atomization screen and small hole just above the screen was half blocked . First go started . My chamber was compleatly spotless of carbon so it's running good for that issue .
If it gets really bad it can start to cover the exhaust port.
Yes ok 100%
Hi David, I have 1 of those (well 4 but 2 will not work) diesel water heater in the background (B24) but can never get it to work, The instructions I found shows you just apply power and it works but mine doesnt do anything, I can test each components using the test software but apart from that it doesnt work, can you tell me what the secret is for you getting yours to work please?
This is the part a lot of people don't know. A large amount of those Webastos are pulled from scrap cars. Which require a CANbus signal from the vehicles ECU to actually turn them on and off.
Which is why we've been working on replacement controllers for the heaters - ruclips.net/video/X8AdLsXD9_U/видео.html
Another option is reflashing the firmware, but again that only works if have a compatible controller in the Webasto to start with.
can you also mount in vertically?
Yes. But only one way up. Hot air out the bottom. If you go the other way a small amount of diesel will leak from the flame front starter hole.
I’m getting a weird white solid build up in the combustion chamber and white smoke pouring out the exhaust. I’ve stripped and rebuilt and it works every time for about 2 week before the same build up comes back. Run on red and white diesel with no additives. Only other time I’ve seen build up like it was with a blocked dpf on a car. Exhaust doesn’t seem to be restricted at all. Any ideas?
I haven't seen a white build up. Well except on waste oil.
hi dave nice video learned a lot, can you tell me a good company to get a heater for my ducato van cheers john
Great job thanks and cheers from Canada.
What is the major cause of this gunking up?
(1) Incorrect tuning (too rich, lots of soot) (2) Fuel mixed with veg oil, used oil, etc.
How do you turn the setting down so it doesn't burn so much fuel?
Depending on which controller you have will depend on how you change the settings.
@@DavidMcLuckie it's better now, I had the wrong fuel pump on it, it was off a German wabasco, too fast for the Chinese ones.. and my exhaust pipe might have been too long.. I have 2 and it seems like they carbon up lots, I have to blow in the intake with air, to get them going, about once a week, or so.
Great video got the same problem with the heater on my truck at least I now know what's causing the problem so be stripping mine down in morning
From my experience from same heater, if I use maximum pump speed, 5,4Hz it start sooting and after a while barely give any warm. And it would not start, only white smoke. If pump settings are 5.2Hz or lower then it goes on without problem. I think it does not got enough air to burner. Maybe fan speed tinkerin can help but some said that bearings will worn out quite fast if run 5000 rpm
David do you think the Chinese heaters are worth buying or do they need constant tinkering with to keep going. I like the lavnar pro but can't buy in australia.could you tell me the best Chinese model to buy appreciated. Many thinks Harry
There appear to be two kinds of diesel heater. One that dies within a few uses or straight out of the box, and the other will run for years without a single issue. There also aren't that many actual 'brands'. The last heater I bought was a Vevor brand that was all aluminium and it has so far worked fine in the camper it is installed in.
Hi excellent set of vids .
I have j7st installed a heater and on connection to the battery the control panel gives a fault code of E-07
I have checked the harness from the panel to the heater 1 wire at a time and no breaks . I have opened tye case on the main board where its marked + & - and the reading is 13.8v as it's connected directly to my leisure battery the blue wire is reading 4.6v at both ends as is the black and red wire from control to the main board .
Xan you recommend what to check next please
If you are the type of person that demands off the shelf perfection, then you are taking a bit of a risk. If you have a sense of adventure, an enquiring mind, have basic diy skills and access to youtube, then these are great value and a lot of fun.
Once you get them properly set up they are very low maintenance.
When i prime my diesel night heater the fuel runs straight through and out of the exhaust outside my workshop, The fuel pipe will not fill after 4 prime attempts, In the past when i primed the heater my fuel line always had fuel and little bubbles in the line, Any ideas what might be wrong with the heater David please.
Is there a leak between the pump outlet and the fuel inlet on the heater? For diesel to run out of the fuel line air must be able to get in. My all in one sometimes does this when I don't clamp the fuel lines on the pump and overnight it lets the air in and fuel leaks out. But it always stills fires up as the fuel pipe is so short.
Hi David love the videos , here's a good one for you , I have a Chinese 5 kw 2 months old 300 hours use now , past few weeks seems slower to light and smoke for few minutes then lights ,now the mystery is I can smell the grey smoke coming out of the blower vents , I've checked its not from the very end of exhaust outside ,I looked underneath and its leaking right near were it joins the base / manifold outlet ,I've re done the exhaust nice strong super clamp even a wee bit of paste ,but it still puffs out a tricle of grey diesel smoke which is pulled into the gap were the silicone gasket is ,the silicone gasket is also brittle and broken only 2 months old !, any ideas were this smoke could be coming from ? I re tight end exhaust clamps 3 times to check ,it wasn't them it seems nearer the very base of the alloy exhaust pipe ,can they crack ?
Its bizarre,and dangerous suppose not using it obviously till fixed , I can not see any cracks in the exhaust port ,the clamp was tight on the exhaust tube no play , I think its been doing this a while but I only can smell and see it when its starting up, Starts up .. glow plug on ,pump on ,then grey smoke then maybe 2 minutes it fires up and runs ok , the smell goes away from blower vents but I guess it could still be emitting invisible gases once its running warm , any ideas I remain baffled 😀
If your combustion gasses are mixing with the hot air you might have a leak/crack in the heater housing that seals up again once hot. Or one of the gaskets that seal the combustion chamber could have failed and is also leaking. Do you have a carbon monoxide alarm?
@@DavidMcLuckie yes got alarm ,took heater out the black silicone seal and the fuel inlet pipe square seal are brittle and cracked ! 3 month old heater ! The smoke may be coming from the fuel pipe seal not sure yet till I put new seals on and test ,seems very odd the seals look like rubber to me, and the smell I was getting was like sunburnt diesel rather than exhaust smell
Helloooo David
Have you had any dealings with the Webasto type water heaters like the ones used as pre heaters on diesel cars, your videos on the air heaters are brilliant as you put it all into simple terms for the average bod out there (webasto vids would be good)
Cheers Grahame
There is a few Webasto videos in my videos, Webastards as I like to call them.
@@DavidMcLuckie 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍
My brand new heater is taking around 6 or 7 attempts before it starts up - until then I get an e03 error message every time (about 90 seconds or so after pressing the on button). After 6 or 7 tries it starts up and runs no problem - then when I turn it off I get another e03 error message during the shut off process
Any ideas what this may be? It's connected directly to a brand new fully chanlrged lithium battery so I don't think it's a voltage problem. Maybe I should replace the glow plug?
Glow plug, or wiring of the glow plug. I have a heater that does that depending on how I bend the wire as it contacts poorly with the pins on the ECU.
Hi. Thanks! Do you know why the fuel pump needs to be at this 45 deg. Upward angle. I've been running mine 45 deg. Down hill. Thanks! Love the vid
Helps to keep the air bubbles moving up and out.
Good job mate. From Australia 🦘
Ever try shooting in a good blast of brakleen into the intake while it is running to de-carbonize? Just wondering if it would actually work or not.
Hey dave I run a air intake filter so nothing gets sucked up I opened a heater and found a Wasp nest ,
Rob
NSW
Australia
I am in the market for one of these is there a particular one that you prefer or are they all the same
16:10 “white smoke, no light, check hole” - that should maybe go on a T-Shirt?
brilliant ... thx ... fixed my issue ... blocked flame hole
Hi David I need help please there isn’t a hole next to my glow plug and my heater is brand new but smoking like a train I’ve taken it apart and it’s all clean changed the atomiser just incase after taking apart it’s slightly better but still smoking looked at your RUclips videos on the setting for a 5kw but still the same the only thing I can see is no hole any suggestions please thanks
Does it light and run and smoke, or just smoke and not light?
@@DavidMcLuckie it runs but smokes --- when I first set it up followed the set by step guide ie prime it then start it but a error code came up after first starting it e08 so look at the code chart air in fuel line noticed air bubble so I primed it again it started but loads of smoke so I took it as to much fuel in the burner after priming it thought it would burn off but 3 days later still smoking like a good 1 so stripped it and changed the atomiser but noticed there wasn’t a air hole on the side like you’ve mentioned so just wondering if this could be the problem air/diesel ratio
No hole is very strange. I'm actually impressed it lights. If there really is no hole I'd suggest drilling one.
@@DavidMcLuckie hi David sorry after taking it apart again yesterday there was a hole wasn’t on the side it was at the back missed it on first strip down probably cause I wasn’t looking for it so stripped it down again yesterday all clean glow plug was clean not caked in anything slight whitish where it gets hot chamber was clean too and burner was spotless but it’s still smoking tried changing the settings like on you video but still the same I’m lost mate
Any idea why my heater choked up with soot or carbon only a few months old 12V 2KW-8KW Diesel Air Heater
Incorrect settings (tuning) would be my first suspicion.
@@DavidMcLuckie Cleared it all out last night use brake fluid and I did a good job my settings are on 35 so turned up full but again today my carbon monoxide was bleeping like mad any other suggestions welcome
35? I meant the pump Hz and fan RPM settings.
So. I just faced down my demonic smoke belcher and might have been victorious.
I blew in the intake as somebody mentioned, not plugged solid. Had already replaced glow screen and the plug today as it was damaged from overheating itself.
Blasted a bunch of electronics cleaner in the glow hole followed by compressed air previously. Shot it with more tonight, rammed the plug in and set it to go. Sprayed carb cleaner up the intake a few times and got nice fireballs a few times. Noted chunks of cokey soot rattling out the exhaust. Got nicely heated up and seemed to quit smoking so bad.
I had left the shroud off and it went E05 overheat which may have further contributed to self cleaning. Now its actually heating up again and all but zero smoke.... wow.
Nice, flames out the exhaust is always a nice touch.
The intake, actually. Right back in my face, inside a cargo bin under my bus. Not huge but nice. :p
Yikes!
Well hell
I just got back to find it shut down again. E08. It likes that one. It ran like brand new for 2 nights after I gave it the shenanigans.
Do you suspect it is still plugged up or something else?
Its currently trying to light, glow plug indicator and the pump are going, but doesn't want to light off.
Good grief.
Forgot how difficult my install was.
The hatred is unreal.
The quality is absurd.
Like everything is wrong.
I only even used this thing a couple of months.
Plugged up, turns out the pump isn't er, pumping despite doing so merrily, so recently. I already properly disposed of the provided filter and put on a huge canister filter with a water bowl.
The last time I messed with it seemed the blower motor was acting stuck
This is just so much fun its incredible
im now having similar issues with mine but your video has helped my knowledge to whats inside and how to strip and rebuild it, plus your handy tip if the small air hole at the glow plug. thank you.
where to get parts and gaskets ?
AliExpress is usually my first choice for parts for these heaters.
Hi David, is the air inlet hole near the glow plug accessible for cleaning without dismantling the combustion chamber. I was wondering if by removing the glow plug and using a right angled probe to dislodge any built up grime in the air hole would work ?
Yes, if you take out the glowplug you can poke at it with a right angled pick as you've suggested.
If you run kerosene or even better the synthetic version every once in awhile, you’ll never have to open it up to clean it. A few capfuls of Automatic Transmission fluid in every tankful will make a world of difference
can I used Diesel Fuel, Supplement/Cetane Boost in my heater fuel to make it burn cleaner , keep it cleaner?
It would certainly help keep it clean. A good tune would also mean less carbon build up. A combination of the two should then mean almost no need to clean the heater. :)
I currently only have a heater that will start when I add brake clean to the air intake on start up. Also running 30 70 mix of hydraulic oil and diesel which may also be the culprit
I've been pouring liquid oven cleaner into the burned and it sure cleans up very well. Is there any reason not to do this. I'm also using carburettor cleaner aerosol.
No reason not too. If it cleans it out then that's the main thing.
With these heaters would it be acceptable to mount a fuel tank on the roof rack? Or could gravity draw fuel down and leak?
The standard pump acts like a one way valve. Once it's off no fuel will flow.
@@DavidMcLuckie nice, thanks
just be aware that if the tank is above the pump, a leak in the fuel line from tank to pump could very well lead to the tank siphoning out all over your vehicle
@@bigoldgrizzly great timing. I posted this question 10 months ago when I was considering buying a van to build. I just pulled the trigger on an Astro van last week. I'm still leaning towards putting it on the roof. Maybe I'll install a motorcycle style petcock to turn the fuel off when not needed.
@@adamhixon
Good Man
To every problem there is a solution - far better if you foresee the problem.
Hope the van works well for you .... OG
So... my heater is starting to drive me insane.
It starts, the glow plug glows, the air moves, the fuel pump starts, the fuel ignites and the unit starts to warm up. So far, so good. But, after a couple of minutes the pump stops pumping for some reason, the unit gets starved of fuel and the flame extinguishes, it throws up the E-08 error and starts shutting down. During the shutdown process the glow plug glows again, the pump miraculously restarts, the flame reignites and then it continues shutting down again.
Do you have any idea as to why the pump will shut itself off? The display shows that it should still be pumping but there is nothing going on with it.
Incidentally, if I try priming the unit the pump will only go for about 10 seconds before I have to turn it off and back on again to start it again. The pump is new, the glow plug is new, the burner is new, the fuel filter and hoses are new and I've cleaned out the inside recently. I'm loathe to replace the entire unit but think my options are running out...
E-08 is a flame out. The heater has not detected a rise in temperature in the startup time. If the unit is starting to heat up I'd suspect the body temperature sensor is either faulty or not in contact with the heater body.
@@DavidMcLuckie thanks for the reply, I think it's sorted now after replacing the pump again (for apparently no reason...).
I went into the settings and reduced the min and max Hz for the pump and RPM for the fan and then buggered about with some other settings (which I believe is the speed sensor setting) and it seems to work now. The pump now continues operating throughout and the heater gets the van nice and warm! Your videos have been really bloody useful though as I was on the verge of binning the entire thing and buying a new one...
Thanks for the great informational videos on the heaters.
The burner tube on my no name "8kw" Chinese heater screws apart so you can remove and clean the metal wool and screen sleeve in the base (not referring to the little diffuser screen around the glow plug). All the others I've seen are one piece or welded. Any idea where I can get a spare metal wool sleeve?
Interesting. That sounds like a design I haven't seen in the cheap heaters. Have you got any pictures?
I do have a picture but don't know how to send it to you. Sorry for not seeing your reply for several months.
I also found new mesh inserts on eBay 5 for $15 US.
Hi David I keep getting e05 on my heater second unit that I've had could it be my main board as air flow is all good love the videos thanks Ry
Could be the main board or the actual temperature sensor itself.