Joe Collins (Injun Joe) features as a pilot in the video. I met Joe in 1983 when I was 10 years old when he visited our primary school (Ohope school in the eastern bay of plenty). He spoke to our standard 4 class in the school library about professional deer hunting from helicopters. Still remember the Colt Armalite AR-15 that he brought into the school library. This was one of the guns used to effectively shoot large numbers of deer in a short time period from the helicopter. We all got to hold the AR-15 (sensibly). I remember he had an early 80's Subaru Brumby ute (Maroon colour??) with a hand throttle on the steering wheel, because he had an injured leg from a recent helicopter crash.
3:30 wow So rotors get replaced when they are 12 inches shorter than new eh? Some impressive balls there, many of those slopes are 45 degrees or steeper - unbelievable work from both seats.
Yeah I remember them well, As a young foot hunter in Port Craig ,back when it was NZFS, spending a morning roaring up a stag and climbing up to get a shot at it only to have it poached from me by a bloody helicopter. I did fly with Trev Greene several times in later years before his untimely death in his squirrel. Trev, Hanibal Hayes, Bill Black. Absolute legends.
I can remember before those guy's invented the net gun you see being used they actually used to jump out of the helicopter and wrestle the deer to the ground.crazy but true.
I knew this guy from the South Island. His name was Ian Cunigham. He was was working here for a while as a consultant. I live here in the US , and he's telling me these stories. He is telling me how his cousin has a Hughes 500 c and they shoot a stag and slide down the chain and pick it up to a drop off point, catch the does with net guns and put them in a pen... meanwhile we are drinking Fosters, he had a nice rifle.. a Steyr 270. He went back to NZ and went hunting and they crashed. No survivors
Riding the chain was a risk that resulted in too may injuries or worse. Some pilots wouldn't consider doing it, and they usually had the better safety records
Both dead, crashed, taking others with them. Productive hunters, infamous ethics and conscience , and able to make helicopter do things that would make old man Hughes gibber. Plenty did as well without the drama and aggravation
Yes, someone said me later, Sorry for the confusion. Wow your father was a brilliant pilot, and I'm sure that also a good person. He looks so young in the video
Was never meant to be sporting. Deer in NZ are not native and are a noxious animal destroying the environment. These are been captured to farm which is allowed.
In the late seventies and early eighties a breeding hind straight of the hill was fetching $3 ~ 3500. They were drenched, housed for a night and away to a waiting buyer the next day. Two hours of flying at dawn...two hours at dusk with a conservative capture rate of 8 animals a day.... Three days of good weather a week kept three guys employed full time plus there was venison, Thar and Chamois meat recovery on the way past to a lucrative European market. An owner pilot with a rational business plan and sound work ethic did very well... but they worked for it.
@@pattrembeth7542 In latter days in one of the main SI bases, interviewing operators indicated they averaged about one per hour from memory (DoC later lost/destroyed all those types of statistics gathered from commercial hunters). Generally the lower tally operators got more per hour & better survival. Mid range was about 500 a year. 8 a day was a big day, it happened, so did days with 2-3 runs for one or 2.
Some were sold (those not crashed & destroyed). And often didn't have honest maintenance/hours records. A great thing for another naïve owner to discover
Late Reply. Actually the deer are introduced and are quite dinstructive to Native Vegetation here in New Zealand. The deer in this footage were recovered live. All recovered animals eventually went on farms, the venison industy was very lucrative back in the 1980's. So it were necessary to call back the Population numbers in order to actually save the native bush.
Joe Collins (Injun Joe) features as a pilot in the video. I met Joe in 1983 when I was 10 years old when he visited our primary school (Ohope school in the eastern bay of plenty). He spoke to our standard 4 class in the school library about professional deer hunting from helicopters.
Still remember the Colt Armalite AR-15 that he brought into the school library. This was one of the guns used to effectively shoot large numbers of deer in a short time period from the helicopter.
We all got to hold the AR-15 (sensibly). I remember he had an early 80's Subaru Brumby ute (Maroon colour??) with a hand throttle on the steering wheel, because he had an injured leg from a recent helicopter crash.
3:30 wow
So rotors get replaced when they are 12 inches shorter than new eh?
Some impressive balls there, many of those slopes are 45 degrees or steeper - unbelievable work from both seats.
My dad was the shooter in 'E' with the red suit
There's an excellent podcast called Deer Wars, great listen
3:33 E's tree trimming service.
They're excellent pilots, much respect.
Yeah I remember them well, As a young foot hunter in Port Craig ,back when it was NZFS, spending a morning roaring up a stag and climbing up to get a shot at it only to have it poached from me by a bloody helicopter. I did fly with Trev Greene several times in later years before his untimely death in his squirrel. Trev, Hanibal Hayes, Bill Black. Absolute legends.
Port Craig is a nice spot.
I can remember before those guy's invented the net gun you see being used they actually used to jump out of the helicopter and wrestle the deer to the ground.crazy but true.
I knew this guy from the South Island. His name was Ian Cunigham. He was was working here for a while as a consultant. I live here in the US , and he's telling me these stories. He is telling me how his cousin has a Hughes 500 c and they shoot a stag and slide down the chain and pick it up to a drop off point, catch the does with net guns and put them in a pen... meanwhile we are drinking Fosters, he had a nice rifle.. a Steyr 270. He went back to NZ and went hunting and they crashed. No survivors
You take what you can get and you never get long. Im glad you remember the guy from the south island.
Riding the chain was a risk that resulted in too may injuries or worse. Some pilots wouldn't consider doing it, and they usually had the better safety records
I'm here thanks to Jay and Dunc 🇭🇲🇳🇿
The old man, Ken Smith, dead now used to tell me how the blades and gearboxes on 500,s took phenomenal abuse, Sax in his eyes was god
That's some crazy flying! :P
Smokin Joe Collins
Collins and Kealy some of the best eh
john safaritours Fur coat!
Both dead, crashed, taking others with them. Productive hunters, infamous ethics and conscience , and able to make helicopter do things that would make old man Hughes gibber. Plenty did as well without the drama and aggravation
great to watch,real treat, whats the sound track? these are and were great men!!
this is so beast, awesome job to have!!
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Im guessing the right skid was purposely cut short to give the shooter more room to fire the net?
Correct.
I saw the skid before they shortened it and it had a few bullet holes.
They were
Remember my brother in law doing this those guys had the biggest kahunas
@kiwi dodge Where did you get the footage from?
Broadside Outdoors NZ it were part of a documentary. Appologies for such a late reply but i dont monotor my RUclips very much.
Best in the world
This is incredible footage, is this still done?
Listen to "Deer Wars" Podcast mate. Amazing stories of deer culling and venison hunting in NZ. I had no clue and it led me here
1:38 Someone check that guy's license!
No, the pilot flying at the end was morgan saxton.
It was my father, Joe Collins not Morgy
Yes, someone said me later, Sorry for the confusion. Wow your father was a brilliant pilot, and I'm sure that also a good person. He looks so young in the video
Jon Castañares you are right, that's def Morg
sorry was Joe Collins family.friend shooter was Milton Kiri
@@broadsideoutdoorsnz1445 Ha, my dad is Trevor Collins
song name?
DaMadBlaqDrumma Phaeleh - In The Twilight
What's the point? your very good helicopter skills?
Its called making a living
Song name?
ruclips.net/video/xYc_MBjxAL8/видео.html
@@kiwismx5 Thanks
wow, how sporting
Was never meant to be sporting. Deer in NZ are not native and are a noxious animal destroying the environment. These are been captured to farm which is allowed.
I don't understand how this can be lucrative, can somebody explain this to me?
In the late seventies and early eighties a breeding hind straight of the hill was fetching $3 ~ 3500. They were drenched, housed for a night and away to a waiting buyer the next day. Two hours of flying at dawn...two hours at dusk with a conservative capture rate of 8 animals a day.... Three days of good weather a week kept three guys employed full time plus there was venison, Thar and Chamois meat recovery on the way past to a lucrative European market. An owner pilot with a rational business plan and sound work ethic did very well... but they worked for it.
@@pattrembeth7542 In latter days in one of the main SI bases, interviewing operators indicated they averaged about one per hour from memory (DoC later lost/destroyed all those types of statistics gathered from commercial hunters). Generally the lower tally operators got more per hour & better survival. Mid range was about 500 a year. 8 a day was a big day, it happened, so did days with 2-3 runs for one or 2.
flying the absolute fuck out of these machines ae! so sick
Some were sold (those not crashed & destroyed). And often didn't have honest maintenance/hours records. A great thing for another naïve owner to discover
prof. pilot
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Destroying the nature and animals
Late Reply. Actually the deer are introduced and are quite dinstructive to Native Vegetation here in New Zealand. The deer in this footage were recovered live. All recovered animals eventually went on farms, the venison industy was very lucrative back in the 1980's.
So it were necessary to call back the Population numbers in order to actually save the native bush.
Preserving nature and animals silly.
Saving nature, deer in NZ are intrduced and are a noxious pest, destroying native trees
@@MichaelSmith-nd4rr they sure are. They are on the rise again too. Kill them any way you can.
NZ looks like Scotland used to. They let their deer eat all the forest. Now they are struggling to try to get it back.