AAI Podcast with Tim Sledge, ex-Baptist pastor & author

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @ruthwebster2674
    @ruthwebster2674 11 месяцев назад +6

    I am 76 years of age. I fell in Love with Jesus at a very young age and love Him more and more each day.
    He is Mine and I am His.
    Life is a journey but He is Faithful.
    I’m looking forward to my home in heaven .. as Jesus said, I go to prepare a place for you so that where I am you will be also💃👑
    There Is a devil who is a great deceiver. The bible says he is the father of lies!!
    So sad for this man as he has been deceived and writing books etc trying to deceive others..
    Better a milestone put on him etc then he hurt one of The Fathers little ones 🙏🏼

    • @grimknight1452
      @grimknight1452 4 месяца назад

      76 huh? What happens if there isn’t an afterlife? What if you followed a lie all your life? What if you wasted countless hours on a religion that was thought up by stuffy old men even though their claims were false. That would be interesting wouldn’t it. Whatever helps you sleep at night though.

  • @fightintheshade
    @fightintheshade 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good to see Tim leading the Houston Oasis. They are lucky to have such a gifted leader

  • @graceperiod5352
    @graceperiod5352 Год назад +6

    It's not too late one simple prayer will bring him back 🙏

    • @pixie_the_rabbit6833
      @pixie_the_rabbit6833 11 месяцев назад

      I don't think so. He didn't "stray" or "backslide." He has literally turned his back and has walked away. He denies the deity of Jesus Christ. Read Hebrews. This man had a lot of head knowledge. His "testimony" lacks the vital element--acknowledgement that you are a rotten sinner, who deserves to go to hell--and who can never, ever be good enough to go to heaven. Jesus said that he did not come to save the righteous, but to save sinners. He can't save the "righteous." The "righteous" are people, who don't admit that the are sinners. Ergo, they can't be saved, until they realize that they are filthy, rotten sinners. This guy just committed to an idea. He adopted a lifestyle. He joined a club. I cannot even imagine his horror, when he dies and realizes what he has done. Much worse than if he had never read a Bible.

    • @polynesia8733
      @polynesia8733 11 месяцев назад

      @@pixie_the_rabbit6833 faked his faith for 40 years. Never had an actual relationship with Christ. This is what the Bible calls doctrine of demons

    • @grimknight1452
      @grimknight1452 4 месяца назад

      That is such a condescending statement.

  • @BR-gz3cv
    @BR-gz3cv Год назад +1

    I truly admire Tim and believe he is a genuine person who shares his journey to enlighten us all. I applaud his courage and his capacity to help others. He’s been an inspiration to me and I’m sure countless others.

  • @bonniehill7573
    @bonniehill7573 11 месяцев назад +1

    This story is sad to me and my heart goes out to Tim and others who have or had experienced doubts in their faith, and have not had loving Christians come alongside them. A couple of my teens are questioning as they become adults. I see this as a good thing to examine your faith- is it the real deal, or my parents? I pray that our home can be a safe place to discuss those questions or that people in our church can patiently and loving come alongside my kids and others as they’re grappling with faith questions.

  • @graceperiod5352
    @graceperiod5352 Год назад +2

    The power and presence of God is so real ❤
    God sees you and cares (1 Samuel 16:7)

    • @polynesia8733
      @polynesia8733 11 месяцев назад

      GOD actually does not know this guy tim...NEVER has. This is doctrine of demons referred to in the Bible.

    • @jeffbengs910
      @jeffbengs910 7 месяцев назад

      Tim must not of been sincere when he trusted Christ as his savior? Is that what you are saying?@@polynesia8733

  • @MarkJohnson-xm6hy
    @MarkJohnson-xm6hy 6 месяцев назад

    Let's remember the importance of incorporating Christ's words into our lives because we could turn away from Christ as well, but we also need to have compassion for those who struggle with faith.
    I also understand Tim's thoughts about the sins and practices in the church that need to be confessed and cleansed. Remembering Jesus' commandment in John 15:13 to "love each other as I have loved you" acts as worship toward God while indicating the mark of a believer.
    I confess that I fall short of the standard many times, but I still want my life to reflect something different about me. I want my life to honor Christ and love those who need it most.

  • @TannerTracks
    @TannerTracks Год назад +12

    Saddens me that this former minister never experienced a relationship with Jesus. Just went through the legalistic channels of Baptist churches that can crush any man's soul.

    • @diannebutler1807
      @diannebutler1807 Год назад +1

      Heartbreaking...

    • @RShackTravels
      @RShackTravels Год назад

      So sad.

    • @Miles-hi9vg
      @Miles-hi9vg Год назад

      I'm a Baptist , not all Baptist are the same . I feel sorry for Tim but I don't judge Him at all .. I believe he is a christian and I know one day God will turn his life around back to his First Love

    • @MrFireman164
      @MrFireman164 11 месяцев назад

      If you give 50 years of your life to Jesus and you don’t experience him then it’s not possible to experience him or have a relationship.

    • @jeffbengs910
      @jeffbengs910 7 месяцев назад

      Did you listen to Mr. Sledge? Have you read his book? There is nothing about his testimony that suggested 'legalistic channels', concerning his salvation or his life as a pastor. I imagine your way of dealing with people who walked away from the Christian faith is 'they never experienced a relation with Jesus', or 'they must have been hurt', or 'they must be angry with God', or 'there must be some secret sin.' You seem to have preset reactions to this type of person and you don't want to examine and scrutinize your faith closely and objectively.

  • @radosawszmid7822
    @radosawszmid7822 Год назад +5

    As an ex-Catholic, I'm still puzzled by the mechanism that causes someone to believe all these things for many years and there comes a point when you realize it's all mythology.
    I can't imagine going back to Christianity or any other religion right now, unless I accidentally get hit with a brick, lose my memory and then someone will convince me again that it's all true.
    My closest friend and his entire family of 5 are very religious and committed Christians, but I deliberately hold back from talking about my atheism in front of him. I know that if he ever starts to doubt and loses his faith, his whole life and marriage will surely be ruined. In the community they live in, this is simply unthinkable.
    I was lucky enough to have a wife who fully accepted my choice. As a mild protestant, she simply belives that "something must be there". She may be right!:)
    My children are perfectly familiar with both version. They're free to choose which one is more convincing.

    • @SpeakTheTruthLouder
      @SpeakTheTruthLouder Год назад

      Catholicism is false, but that does not make Jesus or God not real. Despite myths, Jesus literally is literally a historical person and the sites he used to walk and where he died is all in Israel today and the tomb he laid in is empty. In other words, just because there are a lot of knock-offs, doesn't make the genuine original fake. I believe in God because He has literally done so much in my life and healed miraculously many people I know and in my darkest times He helped me and healed me. He has spoken to me through scripture often on the exact things I asked him and meanwhile I have also have seen some supernatural things that are 100% proof there is demonic activity in the world (and I encountered these things with other witnesses around, too). Your wife is wise. The world didn't come into being out of nowhere, just as my shoes didn't come out of nowhere- someone made it. Literally nothing we use or see comes out of nowhere and we know it. But we pretend they did, because of some liar a while ago claim we are animals. Well, if you really think Darwinism is NOT mythology and yet a Creator creating a functioning and systemic universe IS, then you clearly are not challenging your own mind and heart enough to really see objectively. On a daily we see people create things. But none of us have ever seen anything evolve in any aspect. Things grow to their predetermined size and stature and then they die down. But NOTHING evolves. Things adapt and change, yes. But linear evolution is simply not in any aspect of reality, not in physics, not in chemistry, not even in biology or anything else. Even the markets fluctuates in repeated patterns. Objectively the world is ruled by locus, laws and principles and systems already in place. Even living organisms grow according to their DNA code, and DNA is a MAJOR CLUE that a predesigned set of rules CONTROL the organism's destiny. Hence it is not a evolving journey but a predetermined mechanism. All of nature together clearly spells out DESIGNER more than explosion. But then here we have people who call themselves scientists saying random explosion is the origin without ANY actual proof nor anything that is remotely testable or proven in the lab. Our language, even the esthetics of the universe are repeated patterns called fractals, which again spells out a system with design - not randomness. All I can say I don't really need all this to know God real. It just takes being honest with yourself and with others. But I didn't come to know God this way at all. I encountered actually a miracle when I was a teenager at an altar call to repentance and believe in Jesus. I remember resisting to go up to the altar cus I wasn't sure if I really believed in Jesus. Then I thought to myself "ain't no way I'm going up there! It's so embarrassing - everyone is looking at people getting up there. If I believe in Jesus I can just do it myself and keep it private." I was literally holding to the armrests on my chair, and suddenly I felt a hand pushing my lower back almost my butt, and before I realized it I was standing upright in front of everyone! I was so shocked I looked back at that hand - who pushed me? But I looked back and there are just some strangers who didn't even know me nor were they making any movement close to me! I was stunned and confused. But being a teenager I was now more embarrassed that everyone was looking at me, and I thought it'd be even more embarrassing to sudden stand up and then sit back down like I changed my mind or something. So I just followed the people on the side of the aisles try to blend me. But at this moment as I went up they were playing the song "For Those Tears I Died" - whose lyrics I still can recall at anytime by memory. Basically it said that Jesus heard our tears in the dark when we cried. I was hurt as a child and went through a lot of discrimination and violation. I had very low self esteem and hurt in my heart. But I wasn't crying or feeling emotional hearing the song or anything. It was instead this young woman who placed her hand on my shoulder, and suddenly I felt a literal warmth and weight coming from her arm flowing to me and I was thinking to myself "what is this immense love coming from her arm?!!" The best way I can describe it is heavy, warm and immense love. It was continuous and flowed to me. When it hit me I just started bawling like a baby throughout the whole altar call and then way after. I looked at the cross and I thought to myself "could it REALLY be true, that THIS JESUS really loves me?!" But I could not stop crying even when I tried to. It's like I cried all the tears of all the years and more out of spiritual transformation. There is something deep and powerful that took hold of my soul and now in hindsight I believe it was the indwelling or filling of the Holy Spirit. Honestly I cried non-stop for 45 minutes and I can sing that song now even thought it was 30 years ago. Given my.memory that is almost impossible. But God saved me that day. Read the ESV or NIV bible and know Jesus for yourself and talk to Him. I will pray for you.

    • @ryanorionwotanson4568
      @ryanorionwotanson4568 Год назад

      Xiánity is a scam to theologically conquer and enslave gentíles. Stop the Stockholm syndrome. It is so evil these chosenítes have destroyed gentíle cultures and civilizations like Rome and Greece. We have our own cultures, our own spiritual traditions, and we should we need to take back our banks and media from these parasítes. 😉

    • @graceperiod5352
      @graceperiod5352 Год назад

      It's called faith 🙏

    • @GardenerRose
      @GardenerRose Год назад

      The greatest gamble of the soul once your gone theirs no turning back . A friend of mine in highschool had a friend who was suicidal he tried telling him theirs hope that God loves him the young man was so furious in a fit of rage screaming I will never believe in God ! walked out the door the young man looked like he saw a ghost screamed in horror and dropped dead 💔😢 . I still walk by that house today and get a reality check and cold chills 😢

    • @mombythesea2426
      @mombythesea2426 11 месяцев назад

      Honestly. Catholicism IS mythology. It is recycled Roman Paganism

  • @lourdesgutierrez6062
    @lourdesgutierrez6062 Год назад +2

    Dogma doesn’t get you into Heaven. Only Jesus can. When you put your faith and trust in Him.

  • @salt.talking
    @salt.talking Год назад +1

    Sorry for what you have experienced. God is faithful, do not give up.
    Matthew 24:13 NKJV
    But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

  • @tamarasavedandsanctified7778
    @tamarasavedandsanctified7778 11 месяцев назад +1

    Pray he repents and turn back to Jesus before he leaves this world because then it will be too late. It’s either Jesus or the devil, heaven or hell. There is no in between sir🙏🏾✝️

  • @diannebutler1807
    @diannebutler1807 Год назад

    Can anyone tell me what the red "triangular" AAI Logo symbolizes or means? Does the shape and color represent something??

  • @vincerizzo9537
    @vincerizzo9537 10 месяцев назад

    I am trying to recall if Tim mentioned the Messiah even once in this video.

    • @jeffbengs910
      @jeffbengs910 7 месяцев назад

      If you mean Jesus, yes he did. He mentioned his conversion experience, his call to the ministry, and his work as a minister. Unless you mean someone else as the Messiah, different than the one Tim followed. Maybe you really didn't watch the video???

  • @TiaCSmith-cb4ot
    @TiaCSmith-cb4ot Год назад +2

    I can hear in his conversation that he was never connected to Christ. He let his experiences with others influence his decision to leave the faith. He can’t seem to get the fact that the devil deceived him. They can’t accept that his way is not Gods way. Now he is pulling others down with him. Yes, i struggle with some things that is in the Bible but it does not disprove christ. Remember, Christianity is based on the death and resurrections of christ and has nothing to do with what’s in the Bible because Christianity existed before the bible was written. If you can disprove the death and resurrection of christ, then you can disprove Christianity and that won’t happen. Even the Bible talks about how people will fall away, so his falling away is just fulfilling bible prophecy.

    • @peackeeper1
      @peackeeper1 Год назад

      Very good Tia. You have been given great insight and wisdom from the Holy Spirit.

    • @ryanorionwotanson4568
      @ryanorionwotanson4568 Год назад

      Xianity is a scam to theologically conquer and enslave gentíles. Stop the Stockholm syndrome

    • @jeffbengs910
      @jeffbengs910 7 месяцев назад

      You need to read his book if you want his full testimony. This brief video did not offer him the time to get into all the details. Don't be quick to give the pat answer, and I paraphrase, 'he must not of really ever been saved.'

  • @lourdesgutierrez6062
    @lourdesgutierrez6062 Год назад +2

    We speak in tongues, sir because there are people who can interpret tongues. Please go back to the Bible and ask The Holy Spirit to give you insight. Be blessed

  • @Joe-bg9gi
    @Joe-bg9gi 3 месяца назад

    Tim says, “Jesus clearly says” at the 43:41 time in this interview regarding
    Matthew 5:42 when Jesus says to give to those who ask. I find it very interesting that deep down Tim still knows the Bible is true and that Jesus is real, but willfully rejects the truth.

  • @Kiwi91663
    @Kiwi91663 27 дней назад

    "Bill" did not have a real conversion, I was a member of church run by Tim...He was not a nice man. He ran that church with an iron fist. He is rewriting the history to fit his narrative. You sneezed or coughed, you had to get up and leave the worship center. He was not friendly or nice. Maybe it was his upbringing, I don't know...but, this sweet, calm, matter of fact man sitting here telling this tale, is not telling the truth. He was asked to leave because he wanted to do more and be more than the leader of this church. He wanted to be bigger than the church. The church needed him to go. He ruled that church hard and had most of the people scared to death. You had to wear nametags and I shudder to think what he would do in this day and age of cell phones, when he didn't want to hear any sound from those sitting in the large room listening to him. That is where he lost his dream of being the next BIG minister. He wanted to be a Billy Graham...Just because you read the bible...does not mean you feel it deep down and truly believe... clearly this was Tim's case. I am saying prayers that he may have a real conversion...that he may really see the light...the God light. Wishing you the best. Praying for your soul.

  • @lourdesgutierrez6062
    @lourdesgutierrez6062 Год назад

    God is merciful and He still loves you, sir….even if you have drifted from Him, your Creator. I believe you’ve missed the mark. The only one that was at that cross giving his life for you was Jesus, not all the people that have let you down. Come back to Jesus it’s not too late. God bless

    • @polynesia8733
      @polynesia8733 11 месяцев назад

      he never was with Jesus. You cant drift from God when he wasn't with Him in the first place.

  • @peackeeper1
    @peackeeper1 Год назад +3

    So Tim why write a book about your unsatisfactory relationship with your "Religion" unless you want to do your best to disrespect the Cross of Christ and lead others astray as revenge because you did not really get to know Jesus Christ ? Jesus has been betrayed before so Im sure He was prepared for your type of disgruntled experience. It appears your still alive healthy and financially successful from preaching all those years. What do you have to complain about?? Its not uncommon for ministers to get into the business of religion for profit as you have. My question is why couldn't you be wise enough to see that you never had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ nor did you have the Holy Spirit inside of you to begin with and your focus was to satisfy your intense need for attention and success under the Mega Church power that you accomplished? I fear there are many like you who never really get to know the person of Jesus Christ because they are too busy trying too be recognized instead of Jesus being the focus in their life. God knows his sheep and He knows those who will betray him, the very elect will be deceived in the end. The Ego is running your mind , the pride of you thinking you know more than God and that was how satan was deceived and how satan has deceived you as well.

    • @nottthereyet4872
      @nottthereyet4872 Год назад

      The closest I ever felt to Jesus was when my own professing Christian family members turned on me in a most unexpected and targeted and resentful manner. It was a very long and painful period of my otherwise healthy and somewhat prosperous life.
      But I always maintained gratitude in my heart towards God and never vengeance toward my adversaries.
      When you follow what Jesus tells us to do, with full faith, He will never forsake His own. It must be a personal faith and commitment.
      And since that period in my life, I've seen how God can turn everything around so miraculously.
      We are to help the wounded, but sometimes we will become the wounded.

    • @polynesia8733
      @polynesia8733 11 месяцев назад

      His leaving is God separating the sheep from goats.
      1 Timothy 1:.19 "...Some people have not listened to what their hearts say. They have done what they KNEW was wrong. Because of this, their faith in Christ was WRECKED. 20 This happened to Hymenaeus and Alexander. I gave them over to Satan to teach them not to speak against God."

    • @jeffbengs910
      @jeffbengs910 7 месяцев назад

      Or, he has found the truth and wants to lead others to it, others who believe what they've been told, and who say they have 'faith' when they can't explain parts of it.

  • @TiaCSmith-cb4ot
    @TiaCSmith-cb4ot Год назад +2

    I guess he will find out in the end his fate. In the end every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. I pray that he turns from the error off his way.

  • @robertabryan2212
    @robertabryan2212 Год назад +1

    Isn't life "pointless" if there is no God? If there is "no God", why the urge to help people? If there is "no God", then there is no authority. No morals. No opinions worth hearing. Why are you trying to make yourself God? If you are, then even you are not true to your timid proclamation as a so called "belief in nothing" atheist. Maybe it's more believable to say, Know God. Just look at creation.

  • @tina-g4h
    @tina-g4h Год назад

    Look into Catholicism. The one, true Church.

  • @mombythesea2426
    @mombythesea2426 11 месяцев назад

    Jesus isn't in most churches anymore. I dont blame people for leaving what is titled "church" in the west.

  • @teresaaldrich6121
    @teresaaldrich6121 6 месяцев назад

    So Tim has decided to be an anti-Christ because the God he made in his own image let him down. Do I understand that correctly?

  • @summersunday6675
    @summersunday6675 Год назад +1

    Left the faith (in real life they don’t have it eversince) ans then leading people to the path of evil. Tsk tsk tsk.

  • @21Onate
    @21Onate 4 месяца назад

    Very interesting to hear this. Goes to show someone who does “things” for the gospel, but I can tell he never really truly walked with Jesus or knew him as his savior. The reasons he left his faith are sadly so common amongst those who “deconstruct” their faith. Instead of working through the questions, he came to the conclusion that God doesn’t exist.

  • @cafemolido5459
    @cafemolido5459 Год назад

    What took you so long? On the meantime you were judging people on their beliefs or lack thereof.

  • @arliegage1380
    @arliegage1380 6 месяцев назад

    He may never have been genially saved...sad😢

  • @channel1800dumb
    @channel1800dumb Год назад

    Try the Hare Krishnas bro!

    • @erniegouws7262
      @erniegouws7262 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah ! One of the better cults 👍

  • @GardenerRose
    @GardenerRose Год назад +1

    You can see it in his eyes 😢 lifeless

    • @jeffbengs910
      @jeffbengs910 7 месяцев назад

      I can hear in his voice life, one who is gentle, wants to help, encourage and inspire others, as he did for many years as a minister, author, and leader. You might read his book and get all of the details.

    • @Kiwi91663
      @Kiwi91663 27 дней назад

      @@jeffbengs910 He rewrote his real history to fit the HIS narrative. He was a hellfire and brimstone preacher who was not kind or nice. He ruled with an iron fist. He made people scared to death to move. You saw him coming, he was rather tall and imposing at his time in the 80's... he was a scary scary man. I listened to this, and I am almost screaming at the computer screen.

    • @jeffbengs910
      @jeffbengs910 19 дней назад

      @@Kiwi91663 What is your evidence of that?

  • @SpeakTheTruthLouder
    @SpeakTheTruthLouder Год назад +1

    Please pray for Tim Sledge. If he is a prodigal son, Jesus will bring him back. But this is increasingly sound like a series of attacks from the enemy to remove him from ministering for God. He mentions burnout which is usually a sign of on-going spiritual warfare. Being a pastor this is very usual. But what people and possibly Time don't realize is that burnout is not just a emotional and physical exhaustions and drainage, but a spiritual one as well; and in my assessment having sustained a burnout myself seriously as a worker on the frontline the spiritual dimension is likely much more severely and critical than the other two. Spiritual warfare is something evangelicals are WRONG to keep resisting in their legalistic and religious attitude towards faith. The Bible from Genesis to Revelation talks about Satan's war with God's people and kingdom continuously, and the hostility and battles between the woman's seed and serpent's seed is clear, not to mention how Jesus tells us about Satan many times. If evangelicals continue to intentionally and faithlessly refuse to HEED the gospels and LOOK at the Bible as a whole and only cherry pick what is "safe" to talk about this is the reason they're weakening and not growing the kingdom. I hate to say it as an evangelical but there is a huge red flag in most churches because they both refuse to talk about the Holy Spirit and the devil as if God was lying to us about it. Because of their insecurities and lack of faith and hypocrisy of some, these important topics are undermined and the gospel is not as clear and as powerful in people's lives as it should be because large pieces are essentially missing in meaningful ways, and therefore God's people cannot fight back against the enemy in a real and effective way. We only think in the flesh and it is hard to walk in the Spirit and talk to Him and really correctly interpret events in our daily lives if we only think in the flesh. And it is much easier to fall prey to temptations and Satan's schemes without relying on the Holy Spirit and God's Word, and heed God clearly if we don't think He's there ready to listen and talk to us. It is HARD to mend relationships if we are just interpreting people's actions based on visible things. If pastors would just pray in the Spirit and discern the marital split and both spouses' raw emotions can be a stirring up by the evil one to divide - they might learn why Jesus teaches us to forgive all the time. If people understood the spiritual warfare is MORE real than the physical and verbal, then they will see the truth behind real burnouts that leave pastors so disheartened that they will give up is actually years of spiritual attacks and division and hindrances caused by the enemy, then they will stop talking about psychology so much and understand they NEED sabbath rest, fasting and praying and spending loads of healing time in the LORD - AWAY from all the sinners and noisy world that keeps on launching sinful attacks at their leaders without knowing. However, I don't know the real story of Tim Sledge. He might have fallen into sin and that maybe why the church let him go. OR HE MIGHT BE mightily used by God and Satan has used sinners to malign him to take him down like Satan has done with A LOT OF PASTORS recently in the US. The series of hindrances he kept encountering could either be of God or the enemy. We don't know the story. But PLEASE PRAY NOW for Tim Sledge, whether he is the first case or the later, that He can repent and come back to Jesus, for God desires for everyone to be saved.

    • @jamesboswellii2034
      @jamesboswellii2034 Год назад +1

      After reading the following, you might want to pray for me too.
      I approve Tim Sledge's honesty.
      I am in firm agreement with prominent New Testament scholar Bart Ehrman when he states that the Gospel of Mark accurately portrays a Jesus who grew up in Nazareth living a normal life along with family, friends, and neighbors who, like him, were unaware that he eventually would be regarded by many as the Messiah.
      But I must disagree with Ehrman for his failure to see that Jesus’ revelatory experience at his baptism set off in him a fierce spiritual struggle (“temptation”) when it suddenly seemed clear to Jesus that he was both the Spirit-anointed messianic son of God and the Isaian servant whom God had chosen to suffer a world-redeeming sacrificial death which neither he nor any of his contemporaries had ever expected the Messiah would have to undergo!
      Jesus’ struggle to accept that devastating revelation is reflected in Mark 1:12-13 and in his anguished cry at Mark 8:33, and although Mark’s Jesus thereafter repeatedly told his disciples that he was going to have to die, and even warned them that they would risk losing their chance for eternal life if they should prove unwilling to die with him (8:35), yet soon after his last supper Jesus himself went through an agonizing struggle as he begged his heavenly Father not to require of him the very sacrificial death he believed to be God’s “will” for him (14:36; note Isaiah 53:10).
      Ehrman and many other scholars continue insisting that it was not Jesus himself but later church leaders who fabricated the idea that Jesus believed he was going to have to die redemptively. I, however, cannot imagine that the author of Mark, after repeatedly reporting Jesus’ willingness to die, would have composed a scene in which Jesus suffered long moments of conflict regarding his heavenly Father’s will unless it actually happened and was reported by those three disciples who were nearest Jesus as he was praying in Gethsemane (Mark 14:35).
      For that reason I cannot agree with those scholars who contend that Jesus’ predictions of a redemptive death did not derive from Jesus himself, for however we may understand the reason for his anguished struggle in Gethsemane, it is not the stuff of legend, but of harsh reality.

    • @jamesboswellii2034
      @jamesboswellii2034 Год назад

      I will only add, if I may, that I think an atheist could agree with much that I say about the historical Jesus without becoming a Christian believer.

    • @nottthereyet4872
      @nottthereyet4872 Год назад

      ​@jamesboswellii2034 Just knowing that the human form of Jesus experienced the same type of anguish that I have felt at times when facing adversity, grounded my faith in a more significant yet humble manner. He truly understands how difficult it is here on earth.
      And fast forward . . . We're still talking about Him.

    • @polynesia8733
      @polynesia8733 11 месяцев назад

      not a son...never was...