as much as i like hearing that, the problem is, you will probably be banning a stolen account and the cheater will come back in like 10 mins with a new or stolen account. with SBMM, they will probably get matched with preds in like 3rd or 4th game.
@@demonx7735 yeah but you can hardware ban people and if they choose to get a spoofer or get a new hardware well then you ip ban them but then if they want to use vpn then I guess just keep ip and hardware ban them and eventually they will get tired of the game to get new accounts 24/7 and just cheat on another game idk
@ZoljeTV haven't you heard about linux ? Linux supports PC games fully now. And there is no hardware id ban in Linux . A simple ip change will fix everything for them
They don’t have any systems like that. The game is compromised from within the inside, not from outside sources. So it’s non detectable (for expensive cheats)
The scary thing is that a lot of cheaters has direct access to the servers in some weird way, resulting in them being able to automaticly crash your game when you spectate the cheaters so you can't report them. I saw it in another recent video and it scares me they have some kind of personal way of getting into your safe space if they wanted to :O
@@kyeru when you have unauthorized characters in your IGN it immediately changes them into squares, and I have never heared of anything related to server crashes so, do you have an example of what you say ? where did you saw it and stuff, because I am genuinely curious
The sole reason you crash is because your client cannot handle something that the cheater is triggering (something that is not patched). Crashes are just fatal exceptions with no recovery.
everyone here is wrong. they crash your game by sending broken camera rotation packets to the server, which relays them to the spectating clients. the rotation ends up either way too big or NaN and causes a game crash. Sometimes it doesn't work though and that's why you get clips of cheaters where their camera seems to be spinning around super fast.
Its nothing to do with access to servers thats pretty much impossible since you don't have direct access to the servers even when connected to them only way they would get access is by physically attacking the servers which most cheaters won't do since thats illegal in almost every country and since lots of games companies are based in the US they get processed within the US not their country of origin and even when that ALGS cheating thing happened they didn't have access to the server they got access to Hal and Gens PC from something they clicked on.
ik wat ur talking about and its becuase they have sumthing running in the background that causes ur system to lag while they still have good frames/ping. like a ddos or lag switch but little more differently
@@DJ_Films03the fuck? You think you should make a hundred grand a year for sitting around watching people play videogames? Google a teachers salary dingus
This is happening because companies are focused on user-side anticheats, when they need to focus on server-side anticheats. (It would cost them slightly more to have a server-side anticheat.)
On console, if you play after midnight, every player looks exactly like that. All perfect aim with 100%accuracy, autosupergliding off a grass blade, autolooting from deathbox without even interacting, 9manning and who knows what else. This game is tragically corrupted to a point I truly have no faith we have a chance to play a match without cheaters. And still people believe that there's no cheaters in console lobbies.
Surely the people that stop playing because of hackers (Especially top tier players) would hurt the game/company more than paying for a salary or two of employees to ban obvious cheaters when they are reported or detected for too high an accuracy.
No normal matchmaking = playing vs squads of preds and masters on plat. So why should we blade cheaters? The do the best as they can same way as master gather togather and play by stack. Ugly.
Crazy that more people get banned for having an "inappropriate name" then actually hacking... its insane. I almost got banned for having Sergeant Nuthugger as my name, but cheaters roam the game.
i quit APEX months ago, because of the cheaters.... though i was playing since S1... but i moved on... respawn doesn't give a damn about players, they only here for money...
I love to wake up one day and open up apex and see the text "apex predator" with joy of my accomplishment i boot up a ranked game, loot and have fun and then die to a cheater
Dude hacking needs to be an actual punishable crime. Those server side cheats are manipulating the legal property of EA, these types of things can be considered as stealing someones property. #bancheaters
Hackers should not be allowed to ruin peoples games, if you have to fight a hacker there should be some way of not losing rp against them. Maybe have a team that reviews hacker footage so you dont lose rp.
I love apex, but I had to draw way back on playing because of cheaters and horrible match making. I am nowhere near your level. I shouldn't have to fight people in your class or anyone close to your class.
I came back to apex after almost 2 years to find my account was stolen. They just give me a canned response on every ticket I make. Its so jacked up. Yet these cheaters just get to run rampant.
Thing is, doing this based on stats and reports is so easy. Literally just send replays to an employee to rewatch and decide. Doing the coding for the initial system is so ridiculously easy.
i get a warning for telling a troll to "fuck off" in game but cheaters play all the way to pred . Ban manager out here pretending to be a content creator instead of doing his job.
Its crazy cause they wont put up job openings for security team but they make. Part of the problem is honestly content creators, complain and continue to keep playing, creators are the face of the game if the playerbase sees all their favorite streamers stop playing the game they are going to either do something or shut down the game. Either way the creators are going to have to find a new game if it got shutdown anyway or just mald everyday and hate their choice in career instead of enjoying whatever game they want
i doubt it. seeing wattson utilize the tether is actually impressive. i feel like now if they have a cheater in a lobby they'd use ash to tether them on one spot and spam nades.
@@Malkore Literally any game...their servers are multiple times worse than a 23 years old game (Runescape), even amongus and lethal company has 50% faster servers, because they operate at 30ticks, and Apex is 20ticks... Edit : And that 20ticks is at its peak...their average might be lower than even 15ticks.
@@D4Chief I 2nd that. The Finals is worth the switch. After playing Apex since week 2 of release and completing every single battle pass, thousands of hours played. I finally left this season after a sh*t 'week 1 season 22' of audio issues, server issues, BS SBMM and blatant hackers. The Final has audio that works. Fair skill base match-making. The one and only time I played against a questionable player he legit got kicked from the match and band mid-game I sh*t you not. The servers work amazing. Cosmetics are priced fairly (unlike apex) and there are no gambling loot mechanics to cheese money from players. If you commit to investing 50 hours into The Finals, the itch to play Apex will disappear and you would have found your new home.
Bro, I play right now in the game cheater or hacker, regardless of what it is, he went around the map shooting through buildings, through the ground and killing players, he didn't hide at all that he was a cheater, with pathfinder he killed the whole lobby without even aiming, flying through the air and he was killing players, it was miserable, it looked like he was trying out cheats on the map, too horrible for the game. I don't know how I can send you the video, I haven't seen this and I haven't experienced it until now.
Idk how it's not possible that the anti cheat doesn't pick that up that's pretty much rage and blatant he must spend a lot of money he said no one's on to ban but you shouldn't need someone to on to contact for that to be picked up that's crazy
Imagine being a pro and crying about hackers while us the avg gamers that are neglected while the devs catter to the1%and they still complain absolute trash leave the game then no one will miss u😂
And people who settle for less while continuing to put money in their pockets will be the reason this game is still around without a care for its community.
I see you still bought the new heirloom though.. I'm not saying you're not right about a lot but why give them your money then if they literally don't care about you.
see the thing is I'm a data scientist, and I am 100% sure that cheaters like this should mathematically and statistically be 100% detectable and banned ! the easiest shit to do, like just on the top of my head, nothing fancy it's even flawed but still better than whatever they are doing is compute the average damage per each weapon and the headshots made and bullets landed by PROs and even add a bit of a margin error to tolerate new amazing talents and ban anyone above that threshhold, and i'm not talking about the account or the freaking IP address ! no ban the fucking machine from ever accessing the game !
According to respawns own data, 60% of the accounts that made it higher than diamond were banned for cheating last season. game is literally dying and theyd rather sell skins
you need to not stream you lobby part of screen that shows matchmaking queue. or overlay a fake one, so that he queue's and joins and then you queue after and so different game
Yeah game hasn’t been fun for a long long time wouldn’t say I put that many hours into it on average when I played stop in season 18 tried playing this season just so boring will probably never play again still find time to watch Watson tho he his a real player
100 percent this gotta be some kid just blowing his parents money on cheats / scripts hacks cuz no way you gotta be this bored to mess with someone all day
No one at Respawn cares enough to fix anything. They're being directed to purely focus on pushing skins and microtransactions and none of the developers care enough to make a stand by quitting enmass.
ill jus boot em offline, took one dudes router for a month. he cried and begged and ran back to cheating and i took it again and he eventaully swapped to a different game. i do booting services against CHEATERS ONLY. Not toxic players but cheaters only otherwise lmk
i would work for minimum wage to just sit there and ban cheaters
That’s too expensive for EA
The fact that people do this at EA and make 6 figures is crazy. DO UR JOBBBB
as much as i like hearing that, the problem is, you will probably be banning a stolen account and the cheater will come back in like 10 mins with a new or stolen account. with SBMM, they will probably get matched with preds in like 3rd or 4th game.
@@demonx7735 yeah but you can hardware ban people and if they choose to get a spoofer or get a new hardware well then you ip ban them but then if they want to use vpn then I guess just keep ip and hardware ban them and eventually they will get tired of the game to get new accounts 24/7 and just cheat on another game idk
@ZoljeTV haven't you heard about linux ? Linux supports PC games fully now. And there is no hardware id ban in Linux . A simple ip change will fix everything for them
Isn't it just possible to add a system to ban people who hit 90% headshots consistently or at least send a notification to the mods
They don’t have any systems like that. The game is compromised from within the inside, not from outside sources. So it’s non detectable (for expensive cheats)
The devs are too stupid
If you do that then it’s just way easier for cheat makers to figure out what exactly triggers the ban system. That’s why apex does ban waves
If u have a threshhold like that they will suddenly only hit 89 percent headshots
@@iZleeper The average pro gets 36% headshot percentage, outliers like 89 should be manually checked
The scary thing is that a lot of cheaters has direct access to the servers in some weird way, resulting in them being able to automaticly crash your game when you spectate the cheaters so you can't report them. I saw it in another recent video and it scares me they have some kind of personal way of getting into your safe space if they wanted to :O
@@kyeru when you have unauthorized characters in your IGN it immediately changes them into squares, and I have never heared of anything related to server crashes so, do you have an example of what you say ? where did you saw it and stuff, because I am genuinely curious
The sole reason you crash is because your client cannot handle something that the cheater is triggering (something that is not patched). Crashes are just fatal exceptions with no recovery.
everyone here is wrong. they crash your game by sending broken camera rotation packets to the server, which relays them to the spectating clients. the rotation ends up either way too big or NaN and causes a game crash. Sometimes it doesn't work though and that's why you get clips of cheaters where their camera seems to be spinning around super fast.
Its nothing to do with access to servers thats pretty much impossible since you don't have direct access to the servers even when connected to them only way they would get access is by physically attacking the servers which most cheaters won't do since thats illegal in almost every country and since lots of games companies are based in the US they get processed within the US not their country of origin and even when that ALGS cheating thing happened they didn't have access to the server they got access to Hal and Gens PC from something they clicked on.
ik wat ur talking about and its becuase they have sumthing running in the background that causes ur system to lag while they still have good frames/ping. like a ddos or lag switch but little more differently
id love to be assigned to just watch games in search of cheaters sounds like a fun Job
Exactly get paid at least 100,000 to ban cheaters sign me up
@@DJ_Films03the fuck? You think you should make a hundred grand a year for sitting around watching people play videogames? Google a teachers salary dingus
@@DJ_Films03a 100,000? I'd do it for 20,000. Maybe less
fr man
But what if you ban someone who literally isn't cheating? No one ever thinks of the unintended consequences of systems that could be abused by players
i quit apex 2 month ago and i feel happy
Yet you keep coming back to videos just to give you enough of that hit apex gives you
Lowkey be like that
I thought I would never quit till I needed space to download Wukong and never looked back
@@pizzagateisrealno he just forgot to unsub.
@@pizzagateisrealhe’s in recovery, he still tryna ween off apex so he’ll still watch vids.
This is happening because companies are focused on user-side anticheats, when they need to focus on server-side anticheats. (It would cost them slightly more to have a server-side anticheat.)
On console, if you play after midnight, every player looks exactly like that. All perfect aim with 100%accuracy, autosupergliding off a grass blade, autolooting from deathbox without even interacting, 9manning and who knows what else. This game is tragically corrupted to a point I truly have no faith we have a chance to play a match without cheaters. And still people believe that there's no cheaters in console lobbies.
Xim/zen there’s been cheating since day one people who say otherwise are the ones using
What servers do u play on that u get hackers on console?
Bro is playing on Chinese and north Korean servers@@DiddytheIII
U just suck no matter what tme of day it is lmao. U were born with a skill issue
deserved, get fucked for playing on console
Surely the people that stop playing because of hackers (Especially top tier players) would hurt the game/company more than paying for a salary or two of employees to ban obvious cheaters when they are reported or detected for too high an accuracy.
Well they hurting right now. Seems to me like they are losing more people than people joining.
@@Seancar4 90% of the accs that are joining I GAURENTEE is new acc of cheaters who are testing cheats rather than playing the game.
No normal matchmaking = playing vs squads of preds and masters on plat. So why should we blade cheaters? The do the best as they can same way as master gather togather and play by stack. Ugly.
his rant at the end is so freaking true lmao
Crazy that more people get banned for having an "inappropriate name" then actually hacking... its insane. I almost got banned for having Sergeant Nuthugger as my name, but cheaters roam the game.
Sticks and stones may break their bones but words threaten their entire existence
same, wasted 200 usd cause i was hating on ratters and got perma banned
i quit APEX months ago, because of the cheaters.... though i was playing since S1... but i moved on... respawn doesn't give a damn about players, they only here for money...
yeah me too, since s2
if people arent even trying to hide it anymore, just imagine how many wallhacks/spray that goes unoticed
To cheat and lose is pathetic
😂 yep
6:00 "do we see the irony of buying a new heirloom and complaining about this?" is honestly such a real twitch chat
in wattsons defence he has 510k mats, he would've crafted all the skins which would've been free
That rant at the end was spot on
you just proved how underrated Ash is. goat
they may aswell make a legend that kicks every hacker out the lobby
I love to wake up one day and open up apex and see the text "apex predator" with joy of my accomplishment i boot up a ranked game, loot and have fun and then die to a cheater
Dude hacking needs to be an actual punishable crime. Those server side cheats are manipulating the legal property of EA, these types of things can be considered as stealing someones property. #bancheaters
I’ve literally ran into a cheater called cheater209 in PUBS over and over. I’ve reported him and he still appears in my lobbies
Hackers should not be allowed to ruin peoples games, if you have to fight a hacker there should be some way of not losing rp against them. Maybe have a team that reviews hacker footage so you dont lose rp.
I love apex, but I had to draw way back on playing because of cheaters and horrible match making.
I am nowhere near your level. I shouldn't have to fight people in your class or anyone close to your class.
It is incredible that a hacker gets access to that level of tournaments.
They can't even do anything about aimbot...imagine how many people are using wall hacks and no one's doing a single thing
Hackers are like end game bosses to pros
I came back to apex after almost 2 years to find my account was stolen. They just give me a canned response on every ticket I make. Its so jacked up. Yet these cheaters just get to run rampant.
if the backend of apex had a theater of games like cod had, then they could go back and watch games that the players were reported in
Ye i run into cheaters every match. Ever since season 4, the cheating have gone rampant, quickly, unchecked and uncontrolled.
Apex became a social experiment guided by sophisticated sociopaths.
Hackers stomp lobbys and been for weeks with no bans, meanwhile ea, yeah lets drain all the money out of our players
Thing is, doing this based on stats and reports is so easy. Literally just send replays to an employee to rewatch and decide. Doing the coding for the initial system is so ridiculously easy.
I literally run into cheaters almost every other game, getting beamed a mile away is just wow
i get a warning for telling a troll to "fuck off" in game but cheaters play all the way to pred . Ban manager out here pretending to be a content creator instead of doing his job.
4:42 literally you eye blink and you dead lol
power of friendship wins again
Its crazy cause they wont put up job openings for security team but they make. Part of the problem is honestly content creators, complain and continue to keep playing, creators are the face of the game if the playerbase sees all their favorite streamers stop playing the game they are going to either do something or shut down the game. Either way the creators are going to have to find a new game if it got shutdown anyway or just mald everyday and hate their choice in career instead of enjoying whatever game they want
The question is, do you win those without Ash?
nope, need nade spam so they cant hit you but your nades hit them
i doubt it. seeing wattson utilize the tether is actually impressive. i feel like now if they have a cheater in a lobby they'd use ash to tether them on one spot and spam nades.
Its like you were fighting a secret boss every match lol… do not pursue lu bu lol
Why don't their opponents fire back? I don't understand this. Some of their opponents are sup noob.
Even now this guys still not banned
ea staffs are lazy as fuck
you do it then
aight ea hire me
Found the idiot who defends EA for free☝️@@Grimelreaper
@@Grimelreaperwhat tf is the point of your useless comment
@@grandcookie2250 you do it then
The hacker named "Destroyer" I thought he quit
Glad I quit apex and moved to better games a few months ago
Name those better games
@@Malkore The Finals
@@D4Chief team fortress tooooooo
@@Malkore Literally any game...their servers are multiple times worse than a 23 years old game (Runescape), even amongus and lethal company has 50% faster servers, because they operate at 30ticks, and Apex is 20ticks...
Edit : And that 20ticks is at its peak...their average might be lower than even 15ticks.
@@D4Chief I 2nd that. The Finals is worth the switch. After playing Apex since week 2 of release and completing every single battle pass, thousands of hours played. I finally left this season after a sh*t 'week 1 season 22' of audio issues, server issues, BS SBMM and blatant hackers. The Final has audio that works. Fair skill base match-making. The one and only time I played against a questionable player he legit got kicked from the match and band mid-game I sh*t you not. The servers work amazing. Cosmetics are priced fairly (unlike apex) and there are no gambling loot mechanics to cheese money from players. If you commit to investing 50 hours into The Finals, the itch to play Apex will disappear and you would have found your new home.
That cheater is a Fortnite dev
Bro, I play right now in the game cheater or hacker, regardless of what it is, he went around the map shooting through buildings, through the ground and killing players, he didn't hide at all that he was a cheater, with pathfinder he killed the whole lobby without even aiming, flying through the air and he was killing players, it was miserable, it looked like he was trying out cheats on the map, too horrible for the game. I don't know how I can send you the video, I haven't seen this and I haven't experienced it until now.
imagine having cheats and still lose so bad.... dude forget that.... imagine cheating in a game and no life it.
think about how empty and miserable of a person you have to be to do this. Honestly.
This is the issue. If we all played fair and it was based on skill the game would be a lot more fun. That's infuriating
That gaming chair is insane 😂😂
most games will know when hit reg is not human, 'we are suppose to support the devs' but obviously they do it for a paycheck
yo..... ash is kind of massive against hackers so long as you have throwables and can not over peek and die
i got banned because of my name being Cumeatsoner Gordon but there are still players like this running rampant
😂😂😂
Honestly props to that guy. I think he should keep doing it and run apex to THE DUCKING GROUND. The devs don’t deserve shit they’re getting.
Idk how it's not possible that the anti cheat doesn't pick that up that's pretty much rage and blatant he must spend a lot of money he said no one's on to ban but you shouldn't need someone to on to contact for that to be picked up that's crazy
Imagine being a pro and crying about hackers while us the avg gamers that are neglected while the devs catter to the1%and they still complain absolute trash leave the game then no one will miss u😂
Cant play this game anymore.
solo queueing, constant no coms ,no team work, and cheaters everywhere.
Most boring game of all time.
EA should do something wtf
so sad
@@mahahahahahahaaaahhhahaha3896 no they are to busy with cosmetics than fix the core game.
The hacker pay a lot of money and you do not
Do you think servers work free?😂
The company need more money
The devs are usless dogs, they haven't done a thing for years
They cant and wont bc the games is dead and a proper anticheat is way to expensive
And THIS ladies, gents and anything in-between is why apex is losing players so quick
And people who settle for less while continuing to put money in their pockets will be the reason this game is still around without a care for its community.
I see you still bought the new heirloom though.. I'm not saying you're not right about a lot but why give them your money then if they literally don't care about you.
see the thing is I'm a data scientist, and I am 100% sure that cheaters like this should mathematically and statistically be 100% detectable and banned ! the easiest shit to do, like just on the top of my head, nothing fancy it's even flawed but still better than whatever they are doing is compute the average damage per each weapon and the headshots made and bullets landed by PROs and even add a bit of a margin error to tolerate new amazing talents and ban anyone above that threshhold, and i'm not talking about the account or the freaking IP address ! no ban the fucking machine from ever accessing the game !
Jail time for cheaters
If they can hack like this...server side... What makes you think reporting will get through?
speaking facts
dude, i barely play, im getting cheated on in pubs... 100% legit cheaters no joke
such a good game bro, sad to see it
I think ea are getting bots on and hackers on to get rid of people who played to long and the people who just wanna play like it disgusts me
Rampart is annoying af as it is. The. You add crazy ass cheats to her lmao
Delta force is gonna be really good man they care about there game more than other companies
Watching this dude cheat is annoying I can imagine dealing with this. Smh man
I see the discourse is extra intelligent today
You can watch forever on a water, fire and how cheaters beat preds on rank. How can i donate that guy some gold?
Well, at least now he knows what it's like when we run up against him in pubs😂
Even cheaters cant beat fkn stack of preds and throw them into our face on gold or plat. Gj respawn, good matchmaking.
According to respawns own data, 60% of the accounts that made it higher than diamond were banned for cheating last season.
game is literally dying and theyd rather sell skins
Apex still doesn't have kill cam?
I left apex and was the best decision. Devs are straight clowns OMG 🤡
true i felt free after making the same decision. sometimes i still watch apex montages
Most people complaining about hackers are in platinum lobbys where there is none lol
Quitting apex made me so much happier lol
Apex Devs doesnt care about cheaters, they get more money from cheaters
U tried changing server or does he have a way of still getting in?
why not just wait for a couple hours until the guy gets off?
the current state of this game is so bronken by cheaters. HIDEOUTS SUCKS on the job.
maybe if get another $360 event itll make the game better
looks like that hacker was trolling you
you need to not stream you lobby part of screen that shows matchmaking queue. or overlay a fake one, so that he queue's and joins and then you queue after and so different game
Crazy this guy is cheating and wasting his life meanwhile Wattson is learning to counter cheaters
apex devs cant code
nah honestly they should just keep movement the skill gap in this damn game
Yeah game hasn’t been fun for a long long time wouldn’t say I put that many hours into it on average when I played stop in season 18 tried playing this season just so boring will probably never play again still find time to watch Watson tho he his a real player
The game is dying just when i got my katar😢
We should use ai to spot and ban cheaters, even soft cheats could be detected with ai. A simple youtuber already did it.
100 percent this gotta be some kid just blowing his parents money on cheats / scripts hacks cuz no way you gotta be this bored to mess with someone all day
He was just good like that no cheats
No one at Respawn cares enough to fix anything. They're being directed to purely focus on pushing skins and microtransactions and none of the developers care enough to make a stand by quitting enmass.
Let the community ban people like wtf
Bro got the free cheats can't afford the good shit😂😂😂😂
ill jus boot em offline, took one dudes router for a month. he cried and begged and ran back to cheating and i took it again and he eventaully swapped to a different game.
i do booting services against CHEATERS ONLY. Not toxic players but cheaters only otherwise lmk
The cheater lost because you guys used the most overpowered weapon in apex, communication.
This game is ridiculous lmao
It’s actually insane how pathetic people are to use cheats and I know for a fact those people are scumbags on and off the game.
Apex turns to Hackpex