The Best Overwatch Season of ALL TIME (then blizzard ruined everything)

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  • @MysticTemplar07
    @MysticTemplar07 8 месяцев назад +88

    Like I heard GS raider say, “you know the devs are stubborn about 6v6 because we have yet to get a 6v6 in arcade mode…”

    • @jimmyjab8744
      @jimmyjab8744 8 месяцев назад +19

      so true though, if it wasnt better, they could pretty easily have a 6v6 mode with reduced tank health and have it in arcade.

  • @AzureRoxe
    @AzureRoxe 8 месяцев назад +257

    Blizzard has the same issue in every single game.
    They simply REFUSE to acknowledge when they're wrong and instead try to double down, every single time. I've seen it in WoW, in Starcraft, in Diablo, in Heroes of the Storm ESPECIALLY, they have always refused to acknowledge their mistakes and fix them, they rather keep pushing their view till it's far too late and then try to spin a narrative of THEM being the ones to realize there's an issue and pretend they're such amazing people by doing changes......and then they change everything EXCEPT what we've been telling them because they continue to believe they're the only ones who know anything.

    • @theolimpiaking4896
      @theolimpiaking4896 8 месяцев назад +7

      They had been like that because they became less humble with people treating them as they were gods since the inception of blisscon

    • @shadowstorm9363
      @shadowstorm9363 8 месяцев назад +4

      its alright to experiment but when things dont work out, stuff needs to be rolled back completely (not partially) and expediently and not allowed to fester

    • @calmuz9639
      @calmuz9639 8 месяцев назад

      Not true, I also play WoW and they have completely changed from 2020! The game is the best state it’s been since legion. The class design and balance is also amazing!

    • @peevan
      @peevan 8 месяцев назад +2

      blame bad management and egotistical devs.

    • @nickp8041
      @nickp8041 8 месяцев назад +6

      Finally someone who knows what they're talking about. So many people are either kids or adults who have never played a blizzard game before overwatch and therefor do not understand what blizzard is like.Blizzard practically INVENTED throwing your ego around as a game developer. Every single famous developer you've ever seen do that, tim, todd, randy, blizzard started it before ALL of them. Blizzard invented rockstar developers and It has finally caught up with them.
      They legit will just never change. Their name is too premium now. Young developers don't care about their shitty treatment of employees because they want that blizzard name on their resume, while the good ones all steer clear of the trainwreck. Meanwhile the white knights will defend them to their literal deathbed. Even if blizzard screws up, treats their employees like garbage, ruins the game, literally DELETES the game purely to push more microtransactions in a new version of it, they will open their wallets up and drool all over their keyboards.

  • @jordanfike8313
    @jordanfike8313 8 месяцев назад +197

    They couldn't leave a good taste from the end of Overwatch 1 and successfully dangle the false hope of Overwatch 2 and the PvE, so they had to make things worse and leave people desperate for change. If OW 1 was left on this patch for 2 years instead of double shield, 5v5 vs 6v6 wouldn't even be a debate. But the busted state they left the game in muddied the waters and people don't really understand what we lost. Most fun I had in OW1 was tank duo queueing. Just not an option anymore.

    • @vanderlin4966
      @vanderlin4966 8 месяцев назад +22

      Right there with you man. I miss my rein duo, the best times were when I would bubble him into a fight and just go ham. Good times. Better times.

    • @jordanfike8313
      @jordanfike8313 8 месяцев назад +9

      @vanderlin4966 Rein Zarya and Winston Dva were the best.

    • @shinitai.x
      @shinitai.x 8 месяцев назад +3

      Damn thats evil but it make sense why they did thY

    • @jyrlan2596
      @jyrlan2596 8 месяцев назад

      Bingo. Everything is a psyop. It works most of the time too. You still see idiots saying "but what about muh double shield"

    • @derekjohnson4998
      @derekjohnson4998 8 месяцев назад

      you can still use 2 tanks in open queue though

  • @idk9637
    @idk9637 8 месяцев назад +31

    I remember back when countering grav was either ult for ult or if it was an ability countering grav it was a planned thing that required skill like deflecting it or eating it with dva. U used to have to bait it to counter it with an ability. How long has it been since youve seen a genji plan on deflecting a grav? Its pointless now to do fun things like that because now multiple healers can just counter it with a single basic ability. Game has been destroyed by the newer supports

    • @aceclop
      @aceclop 8 месяцев назад

      True, like sometimes when I play lifeweaver, I look forward to grav just so, I can flower peddle the team or life pull someone out and while it's fun, it's probably not healthy.
      At the same time when I play Zarya, I feel like nothing ever dies in my grav lol

    • @nickp8041
      @nickp8041 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@aceclop Because grav was designed to work in 6v6. In 5v5 with one less tank, almost no one is going to be in the perfect position to capitalize off of grav because they don't have the space to position for it.

    • @pepekovallin
      @pepekovallin 5 месяцев назад

      The last times I deflected an ult as genji was when I accidentally deflected mei's freeze and Hanzo's dragons, it felt really fucking cool

  • @Mario-er7eo
    @Mario-er7eo 8 месяцев назад +94

    There is no more hope for this game. I was there Gandalf 3000 years ago on beta launch. I have a lot of fun memories and this game will always be deep in my hearth. I've achieved top 50 in eu in all roles and now it doesn't even matter anymore. Let it rest in peace.

    • @Jigsaw090
      @Jigsaw090 8 месяцев назад +17

      This makes my heart melt dude ! I know this exact feeling. But I want this to come back. Sigh honestly thinking about the glory days make me so happy.

    • @Karthig1987
      @Karthig1987 8 месяцев назад

      There was one major issue during the beta being bastion but boy was it magical still

    • @mrpetebojangles21
      @mrpetebojangles21 7 месяцев назад

      Boo hoo. OW has never been better. Cry harder. Keep farming Sam’s rage bait.

  • @almostaweeb7961
    @almostaweeb7961 8 месяцев назад +40

    Such a good video ngl. Dropped a like. Nostalgia sometimes blinds us, but this right here was some of the most fun on ow I ever had, I had the month off for the rona, and it was my bday month, so I was just grinding, nothing else going on in my life, and the memories I made carry me to still hop onto this game and hope for it to be like this again.

  • @sporia
    @sporia 8 месяцев назад +45

    cant stop binge watching samito videos

    • @eosrose6126
      @eosrose6126 8 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, he is smart and very handsome 😊

  • @TV-vz7rf
    @TV-vz7rf 8 месяцев назад +65

    Have you ever thought about doing your own version of a “downfall of Overwatch?” Like, a super long video just cataloguing the whole timeline of these events?

    • @APerson-si8jr
      @APerson-si8jr 8 месяцев назад +24

      Honestly, I'd watch the 4 hour downfall of ow samito video. I know he'd do great to recount the entire history well. Everybody else who does it doesn't seem to be too involved or knowledgeable about the history of ow, or they have plat takes. I've never seen anybody get the entire story with little to no error, but I think sam could do it.

    • @peevan
      @peevan 8 месяцев назад +6

      this would be insanely nice

    • @jimmyjab8744
      @jimmyjab8744 8 месяцев назад +2

      TRUE

    • @nickp8041
      @nickp8041 8 месяцев назад +5

      This is such a great idea. @samito do it. A downfall of overwatch video would hit so much harder from someone that was actually an ex pro and big in the community.

    • @bambampewpew32
      @bambampewpew32 8 месяцев назад

      OMFG YES, I'd watch that lmao

  • @XManKillz
    @XManKillz 8 месяцев назад +114

    I'm glad Samito is back with the consistent flow of content, really helps when im bored asf😭

  • @rickjohnson6358
    @rickjohnson6358 8 месяцев назад +57

    My ow2 mentality these passed few months has just been "I'll come back after the new Seagull ow2 balance state video..."

  • @TheAmazingPie
    @TheAmazingPie 8 месяцев назад +29

    Samito said it perfectly, the play-making aspect of Overwatch is gone now. Having Suzu, Lamp, AND Life grip as options to deny plays (with such short cooldowns as well) just make the game feel bad.
    Especially as a tank, I can force these abilities all day, and I just have to hope my team gets something done in that short window of time. It feels awful, and these heroes are in every single game now. Its no coincidence that this is why support queues are insane while the other two roles get instant games.
    Invulnerability should be limited to ultimates, period. The game will improve drastically off of that alone

    • @grandenigma9400
      @grandenigma9400 8 месяцев назад +6

      I’m a Support Main yet, I 100% agree with everything you just said; Because the reason why they wont remove immoralities from the game is due to them KNOWING FOR A FACT, that if Supports didn’t have these Auto-Deny Abilities and won’t OP in general, then Dive Heroes would be able to kill everything in the backline due to there being no Off-Tank to Peel for the backline. All of what you said is PURELY a byproduct of 5v5 and poor balance. Supports in 5v5 have to be broken in order for the format to Fundamentally work and the worst part of Blizz doubling down on it, is that they know all of this yet refuse to change it back.

  • @mattgeffery8577
    @mattgeffery8577 8 месяцев назад +4

    OW 1: teamwork having the highest impact, even required to win, high skill ceiling, ability shooter. OW2 is an ability shooter that is creeping further away from OW1 by removing teamwork(and the impact it has) and lowering skill floor and ceiling with every patch and new hero. I dont understand what they though made OW1 successful

  • @harperwilliams8972
    @harperwilliams8972 8 месяцев назад +2

    Really appreciate these longer videos where u break down the fundamentals. Id love to see u go more u to numbers like charachter stats and global stats and explain how they relate to balance if possible

  • @Twilight.Princess
    @Twilight.Princess 8 месяцев назад +43

    God this game was so fun years ago. I can still have some fun moments now but not like then.

  • @passadelirious4947
    @passadelirious4947 8 месяцев назад +4

    I cant forget my 50 kills game on Doomfist (the real one not the handicapped one) in Overwatch 1, I was feasting everybody. Good times.

  • @skyeunknown8076
    @skyeunknown8076 8 месяцев назад +15

    Personally still wild how strong Bap is everyone cries about Kiriko but his dps is insane

    • @Apocalypse754
      @Apocalypse754 8 месяцев назад +10

      People haven't forgotten about bap. They also want him nerfed hard

  • @alphawolfNW
    @alphawolfNW 8 месяцев назад +8

    The bit about not being able to blame Bobby Kotick anymore hurt... but he's right

  • @AntonyGreenman
    @AntonyGreenman 8 месяцев назад +6

    It is a good point, it is almost never worthwhile anymore to start stacking up ults, because if you use grav with pulse bomb, for example…you stacked up two ults, that can be undone by one cooldown, when it USED to be a surefire team win, at the least!

  • @shadowstorm9363
    @shadowstorm9363 8 месяцев назад +6

    the thing that was good in OW1 was ults countered ults, so there was a concept of defensive ult (your trance and beat), in OW2 cooldowns (which are easy to land) make ults irrelevant, so its weird and frustrating at times i feel, i am a support player and yes i agree immos ruined a lot in overwatch (that being said some form of immo as an ult wouldnt be that bad since it can be counted as defensive ult but its real bad as a cooldown), the rest was ruined by removing the second tank which made the tank role into a counter picking bonanza with zero depth and freedom of hero (tank character) picks (choice). OW1 felt more teambased, OW2 feels more deathmatch-y (if thats a word lol) and COD-esque and less team based

  • @Trash_Console_DoomLol
    @Trash_Console_DoomLol 8 месяцев назад +15

    I was just binge watching his dps doom gameplay time to watch this aswell

  • @xafy946
    @xafy946 8 месяцев назад +6

    Keep fighting the good fight Sam. This game needs a voice like yours.

  • @absolute-xero7502
    @absolute-xero7502 8 месяцев назад +19

    You know what else had unanimous agreement from the players before it came out? "5v5 is a bad idea, please rethink this" - OW pro team that Blizzard invited to test out 5v5.

    • @chalopsten1408
      @chalopsten1408 8 месяцев назад +5

      Lol didn't xqc briefly play ow2 at launch and basically shit on it and said 5v5 is absolutely garbage too?

    • @mrpetebojangles21
      @mrpetebojangles21 7 месяцев назад

      Wrong, 5v5 is better in every way, especially as a DPS and support main.
      Why still follow OW content for a game you apparently hate?

    • @mahnsterstudio6628
      @mahnsterstudio6628 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@mrpetebojangles21 wrong 6v6 is better in every single way. All 5v5 did was make tanking even worse and supports busted. Dps wasn't even that great until season 9.

  • @khandle918
    @khandle918 8 месяцев назад +22

    Thanks for talking about the amount of immortalities in the game. The next patch will be disgusting. Idk what crack the devs are smoking increasing hp pools and fucking projectile size. Can you imagine Jeff Kaplan announcing they were increasing projectile size? It just wouldn't happen. These kinds of game-defining pure mechanical changes are just crazy to me. Much like removing a tank, it's just Blizzard just want to make a brand new game every patch.

  • @zzzdee1980
    @zzzdee1980 8 месяцев назад +10

    10:50 Damn that part about where the league hits hard😢

    • @Koriiii
      @Koriiii 8 месяцев назад +6

      Its crazy to think that its not Bobby's fault they all lost their jobs. Its because the balance team ruined anyone's interest and competitiveness for the game to prosper as it once did

  • @snowassassian
    @snowassassian 8 месяцев назад +11

    Oct 2020 was a dreamscape

  • @darkensoles8467
    @darkensoles8467 8 месяцев назад +35

    every day of OW2 I miss OW1 more and more

    • @devidubs8113
      @devidubs8113 8 месяцев назад +2

      “ erm no that’s just nostalgia talking”

    • @jimmyjab8744
      @jimmyjab8744 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@devidubs8113 "erm actually guysss do u remember double shield, are u saying you like double shield!?"

    • @user-wm9pj2xj7z
      @user-wm9pj2xj7z 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@jimmyjab8744double shield was purely a balance and neglect issue, not a game issue that shit could’ve been fixed in a week if they would nerfed heros

    • @devidubs8113
      @devidubs8113 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@user-wm9pj2xj7z i never saw double shield as an issue i can’t lie

    • @nathancasey7712
      @nathancasey7712 8 месяцев назад

      I missed it when they announced 5v5

  • @angel-sloth
    @angel-sloth 8 месяцев назад +13

    I agree Samito, I didn't play overwatch 1 as much as you have, but i understand your point and yeah immor made is less competative

  • @haloPrestoGiant02
    @haloPrestoGiant02 8 месяцев назад

    God, this just makes me miss old OW so much. I miss my amateur OW team days, my tank duo, our combos that felt so big brain, and when the game was in a good state, GOD it just hit so different. I'll forever miss those gameplay days

  • @SubaruNari
    @SubaruNari 8 месяцев назад +7

    So damn sad what's happened to this game. Every patch leads us further into hell and convinces me this will never be fixed

  • @GAVIN760101
    @GAVIN760101 8 месяцев назад +1

    11:16“ I didn't wanna be right "this is the sound of despair man.

  • @Levi_LS
    @Levi_LS 8 месяцев назад

    man the nostalgia from that map and video just brings me back, I miss this so much

  • @engineergaming3830
    @engineergaming3830 8 месяцев назад +13

    honestly supports were given everything I still remember release illiari and how the very deserved ult nerf made a huge amount of support players mad because "you can just go d.va"

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 8 месяцев назад +3

      It was deserved because if a D.VA can eat it, it'll be blocked by shields too. I would think some interactions tend to be consistent like Zarya ult, which is a projectile ball like Sun, is blocked by the same things. They just wanted another no skill ability because imagine having to actually plan where to launch the ult when you can fly around on top of that 😂

    • @CesarCaballero-ui8tp
      @CesarCaballero-ui8tp 8 месяцев назад +1

      So stupid cus her ult wasn’t the only problem with her either. Her stupid pylon was busted too if I remember correctly

    • @engineergaming3830
      @engineergaming3830 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@kosmosfan01 so true like you get do much mobility to just get around it those guys are just so braindead

    • @engineergaming3830
      @engineergaming3830 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@CesarCaballero-ui8tp it healed more but tbh it still is it needs to break after you die and heal less she's the only support that can still do something while respawning

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 8 месяцев назад

      @@engineergaming3830 It's hilarious how much healing you can do with putting it in the right place and the crazy range it has.

  • @absolute-xero7502
    @absolute-xero7502 8 месяцев назад +7

    Freedo comes off as the type of dude that only likes something because everyone else hates it. Look at his other videos if you want a history of this behavior.

  • @chlve
    @chlve 8 месяцев назад +3

    "we were waiting for the pve nobody wanted to be a negative nancy" as the pit then grows in my stomach

  • @zoidlux2016
    @zoidlux2016 8 месяцев назад +5

    Supports are the dictators of this game

  • @tyrantla7120
    @tyrantla7120 8 месяцев назад +324

    Samito is the only voice of reason. Every other streamer is a Blizzard shill. It's really disheartening.

    • @REZEMBLENZ
      @REZEMBLENZ 8 месяцев назад +36

      all them scared

    • @juanirdag
      @juanirdag 8 месяцев назад +18

      Damn shame they didn’t hold blizzard accountable for this disaster. Instead they numbed the masses gaslighting you that it’s a good game. So awful

    • @cosmicdumpsauce9470
      @cosmicdumpsauce9470 8 месяцев назад +22

      Sam is the Alex Jones of Overwatch

    • @HankFuller333
      @HankFuller333 8 месяцев назад +37

      Exactly! I am sick of people like AVRL, Jake, Flats and Karq with their elitist attitude like they know the best.

    • @thebandit6886
      @thebandit6886 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@HankFuller333 I'm thinking about unsubbing from flats, after him mocking people for complaining about the shop prices made me go "wow! must be nice to have the money to buy these overpriced mediocre skins 🫤"

  • @Khfan_98
    @Khfan_98 8 месяцев назад +36

    They should just do a "legacy mode" for us overwatch old timers lol

    • @idk9637
      @idk9637 8 месяцев назад +15

      They wont even put 6v6 in arcade because they would get proven wrong. I wish they would release a classic version of ow or even just a seperate ow1 based ranked mode.. but they probably wont. Most stubborn devs in existence.

    • @chigwom7894
      @chigwom7894 8 месяцев назад +1

      The issue is they have already gone to deep into 5v5, they keeping changing for 5v5 which is going to take years, cause they gotta keep changing people so they work in 5v5 when there fine in 6v6 it’s embarrassing

    • @ELECTTRO11
      @ELECTTRO11 8 месяцев назад

      They will never do that, cause everyone would be on that playlist ngl. Not even close.

    • @adalwolf8328
      @adalwolf8328 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@chigwom7894Take years? It's not that hard to adjust a few numbers around. Just use the 2020 state as a reference point. And the support for 6v6 is already there (workshop modes).

    • @nickp8041
      @nickp8041 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@chigwom7894 The fact of the matter is that 90% of the roster was designed to work in 6v6. Number changes don't mean anything when the core design of heroes is the issue. That's why the balance team is an absolute joke, because they didn't understand that in overwatch 1 and are even worse at understanding it in ow2. More health and stupid self healing passives won't change how absolutely polarizing the meta will be every single patch.

  • @OizenX
    @OizenX 8 месяцев назад +13

    Blizzard's mother know's best mentality is what killed Overwatch above all else.

    • @StoneTheCr0w
      @StoneTheCr0w 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah they should totally listen to free to play consumers with no development certifications or experience

    • @OizenX
      @OizenX 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@StoneTheCr0w Considering their track record of getting it wrong, consistently without fail basically right out of the gate in 2016, its questionable to say who's really more qualified. They've managed to take the GOTY 2016, a house hould name that even non gamers knew, and turned it into an obscure laughingstock.

    • @jyrlan2596
      @jyrlan2596 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@StoneTheCr0w how's that blizz boot leather taste? Samito and seagull are pros, and way more relevant than you

    • @wolfspiderzx
      @wolfspiderzx 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@StoneTheCr0w Being able to program something is not the same as understanding why what you made worked. It's that mentality that has destroyed many games.

  • @KingYahtzee
    @KingYahtzee 8 месяцев назад

    This made me realize that the most fun I ever had in Overwatch was in 2020, especially in the summer and fall. RIP OW and 6v6 I really miss you 😢

  • @lrmcatspaw1
    @lrmcatspaw1 8 месяцев назад +1

    I believe that if you change your mentality from "Blizzard wants to make this good for people who love to play it" to "they just want people who don't care much about this game to buy skins" their decisions do not seem to be mistaken.

  • @Slowtymir
    @Slowtymir 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nothing feels better then watching based samito popping off love this mans video

  • @NotAGreatPlayer
    @NotAGreatPlayer 8 месяцев назад +4

    Is just amazed that each time they try to make huge changes like this, less and less they seemed to understand what make overwatch that hit.
    People responsible to make those changes has no idea what they are doing, even bc none of them don't even seem play their game in the first place, it really just seems devs are guessing stuff since this game exist.

  • @supershotgun6921
    @supershotgun6921 8 месяцев назад +1

    Tthis patch is going to kill dps such as Genji when using Dragon Blade, Junkrat normally, Hanzo normally, and probably every dps ult without dmg amps. Like 250hp all over the is going to make so many things just not work anymore besides support cooldowns. The only edge dps have is the "passive" but once again immortality abilities will just deny that value. And not to mention tank is probably going to be still a cosmetic role, as a Tank main.

  • @perfectenrager
    @perfectenrager 8 месяцев назад +9

    I miss ow1 so much more.

  • @bui3415
    @bui3415 8 месяцев назад +1

    I remember this time, it was good because roughly any tank hero was viable and nothing was particularly determined to be meta yet. Which is uncommon for this game since most things are figured out in like two weeks or so. So it lasted roughly a good month or so until it was changed.
    Anyway, this was shortly after Roadhog and Genji were dominant over the summer. Genji had many buffs in June and Roadhog was the meta pick. Later both got toned down but not totally reverted. Some tanks like Sigma had shield health greatly reduced and there were other tweaks here and there. So, by October people were realizing that no one really knew what tank to main and everything seemed pretty viable or flexible enough, or at least just map dependent rather than one choice for every place.
    Then came the next patches trying to adjust some heroes being used less. There was a major HP change in the October 22, 2020 Patch and things turned downhill. Which to be fair at the time it made initial sense and people thought it might help bring some extra damage role and support variety. It had a fair lot of optimistic community support. At least it felt that way but turned out it was a counter intuitive situation. It wasn't working out and soon after people begged for Cassidy''s HP and other heroes to be reverted. Which eventually they did but it was too late and the whole thing was a mess again or rather just not satisfactory anymore or it was in that Sept-October era.
    I also think what helped at the time was that no other hero was added for a long while since Echo, so things had more time to stew and adjust and settle. Devs could make some better changes. But then other new issues started up, like a lack of game content, and patches were being done for the sake of shaking things up in the next year.

  • @2px_
    @2px_ 8 месяцев назад +1

    i've always wondered what the game would've been like if back in owl days they made an event where pro players were in charge of the game for one patch, just to see what it would've been like

  • @shinitai.x
    @shinitai.x 8 месяцев назад +9

    WHY IS NOBODY SAYING THAT DOUBLE SHIELD META WOULDN'T EXIST IN OW2 BECAUSE OF RAMM AND DOOM. At the beginning of double shield meta doom became meta because he was en counter for sig and his dmg could go through shields. Also illiari ults used to go through shield, that something else they could use against double shield so the double shield would have to actually execute instead of brain dead gameplay.

  • @Sushilover7
    @Sushilover7 8 месяцев назад +6

    Blizzard just needs to pay sam a fat check to fix this game. I MISS the teamwork of ow1. Ow2 is a glorified TDM.

  • @memesix5440
    @memesix5440 8 месяцев назад

    i remember watching this exact seagull clip on noobhunters video years ago, and how fun the meta was. So sad to see how this game has turned out.

  • @tyreathian
    @tyreathian 8 месяцев назад +6

    i love hearing sam rant but its so sad for the game because samito has been saying the same things for years because no one listens to him

  • @LatencyProblem
    @LatencyProblem 8 месяцев назад +2

    I was sure a lot of people were complaining about "waiting for ults before a big teamfight" being too prevalent.

  • @jonahp1127
    @jonahp1127 8 месяцев назад +1

    I can’t wait for the OW documentary.

  • @vanderlin4966
    @vanderlin4966 8 месяцев назад +2

    Based takes as usual from the only sane Overwatch content creator.
    Listen to this man please, bring back the 2020 times.

  • @REZEMBLENZ
    @REZEMBLENZ 8 месяцев назад +15

    ow3 gonna be 4v4

    • @1DanteadamS1
      @1DanteadamS1 8 месяцев назад +4

      in that case they should jump straight to ow7

    • @REZEMBLENZ
      @REZEMBLENZ 8 месяцев назад

      @@1DanteadamS1 overwatch 7 gonna be 1v1s only🤣🤣🤣

    • @chigwom7894
      @chigwom7894 8 месяцев назад

      @@REZEMBLENZoverwatch 8 gonna not even have multiplayer servers

    • @REZEMBLENZ
      @REZEMBLENZ 8 месяцев назад

      @@chigwom7894 😂😂😂😂

  • @isaachaaze3
    @isaachaaze3 8 месяцев назад +4

    Most games these days (fps, fighters) are dumbing down their games to draw in new audiences. Some things seem better in hind sight, but I’ve seen it too many times. With OW I really think they do this so ppl can just spend money on coins to buy skins and whatever else.

  • @thesquirtlesquad8446
    @thesquirtlesquad8446 8 месяцев назад

    I love your passion for this universe we love

  • @XandoFootball
    @XandoFootball 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sugar coating it doesn't save a business . . .
    It ruins it.

  • @violet5188
    @violet5188 8 месяцев назад

    You’re the only ow content creator I actually regularly watch atp.
    Keep telling like it is man

  • @daburgerking5996
    @daburgerking5996 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think a good point to bring up about the "there was a conception this was the best patch ever" bullshit is that if the conception was that unanimously people "thought" it was the best thing ever, is even if they as devs believe that's not true why didn't they just leave it? They literally said hey we know you ALL are having fun but actually you guys don't know what you're talking about so we're going to change some stuff anyways.

  • @Smox3
    @Smox3 8 месяцев назад +1

    They need to nerf:
    - Suzo: remove immortality, make it heal 50 flat and 10 seconds cooldown
    - Lifegrip: closer distance and longer CD
    - Immortality: nerf duration, radios, and drone HP

    • @mundaneglue8734
      @mundaneglue8734 8 месяцев назад

      i feel like with lamp they should make it like zarya bubble where you take enough damage and it breaks

  • @Decs_
    @Decs_ 8 месяцев назад +4

    this next patch is the last straw for me, I will give it a chance, I will treat it as a fresh start because of how different it will be, but I have a sinking feeling that the really bad things plagueing the game right now will stick around through this patch and it will still end up with me uninstalling the game.

  • @antiprime4665
    @antiprime4665 8 месяцев назад +1

    samito spitting facts here, we can only hope the devs listen eventually

  • @ben69028
    @ben69028 8 месяцев назад +4

    Even with the game being easier it's still not fun to play. Like if you don't play support you can't have fun and if you do play support you have entered the lottery on which team has the tank and dps they knows to not over commit until all the immos are triggered and on cooldown.

  • @momomadi2
    @momomadi2 8 месяцев назад +16

    BLIZARD was just lucky with OW1 nothing more - and they shows they real skill on ow2

  • @Friar_OW
    @Friar_OW 8 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly samito idk if u will see this comment but I really hope you do because as somebody who's been playing since beta and peaked 4414 (not saying that to brag or justify my point just pointing out I've obv played a lot) I think u really hit the nail on the head with this one. The game in its current state does NOT encourage creative angle taking or play making due to things that extend fights and allow people to kite things that shouldn't have been kitable (kiri cleanse and tp, soj slide, jq shout, ram block in nemesis form, bap immort, etc...). Overall with the way that season 9 is looking, I think this issue will only be exacerbated. Like u said in the video, I hope I'm wrong here, but idk.

  • @brianzunderland9439
    @brianzunderland9439 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can't we get the whole community together and send the whole overwatch team messages or spam the hell out of them with the changes we want? I really don't want this game to die either. We need to find a way to wake them up or change thier mind.

    • @LEEROYY182
      @LEEROYY182 8 месяцев назад

      I've been asking this, Im not sure how we can band together and stick in a massive complaint somewhere

  • @shinigami_ow8903
    @shinigami_ow8903 8 месяцев назад

    Someone need to put together a playlist of every video like this sam ever did and call it how to save ocerwatch the greatest game ever created

  • @Shzl47
    @Shzl47 8 месяцев назад

    what led to that balance patch was updating the game every 2 weeks. so that excellent balance only lasted 2 weeks and then they patched the game again because of the new (at the time) balance cadence.

  • @MIRATHEKID
    @MIRATHEKID 8 месяцев назад

    watching seagulls video on this patch makes me feel like a parent mourning a child

  • @JonasRedding
    @JonasRedding 8 месяцев назад +1

    love the overwatch stuff and i know your working on mineplex a bunch but we are super excited for mineplex you should give some updates!!

  • @Troll4dayzz
    @Troll4dayzz 8 месяцев назад

    I'm hesitantly excited for season 9. As much as I love this game it's hard to deny that 5v5 fundamentally changed this game and took away a lot of the magic that overwatch 1 had. Keep up the good work Samito

  • @itsmebingo
    @itsmebingo 8 месяцев назад +3

    They want all of the player base to FEEL like they earned their rank but not actually have to go through the effort to earn it for real. That is why I, who had been hardstuck silver -gold all of Overwatch was able to place in GM5 in OW2 on an alt account. I did not improve so much to be playing in the lower end of elite, yet the game spoon fed me the free mechanics to get there.

  • @Crusty_Sword
    @Crusty_Sword 8 месяцев назад +3

    I feel as if they had left it in the October patch then when they release OW2, the community would have hatted it and wanted to go back. They made it bad so they could wait as long as possible then left it making the community split where they said 5v5 was the answer and would blame videos from the last patch when one patch before was great idk man sounds like they put the people on the ground then they gave us ow2 in an attempt to galvanize us

  • @thewolfgamer6075
    @thewolfgamer6075 8 месяцев назад

    What is annoying is that Team 4 had to have had the conversation fo the pros and cons of nerfing everyone or increasing health but it just seems that they are all too scared to say that something didnt work and they can't try something else

  • @jaivettasheem1314
    @jaivettasheem1314 8 месяцев назад +6

    Theres a game mode that simulates season 9 it even have the dps anti effect. It make tanks like hog and mauga feel bad, They cant heal if being shot and healers wont be able to sustain them if they have anti on them.

    • @yoyocherio
      @yoyocherio 8 месяцев назад

      Good riddance

    • @codecraftercc
      @codecraftercc 8 месяцев назад +1

      code

    • @jaivettasheem1314
      @jaivettasheem1314 8 месяцев назад

      AP7A7 For the season 9 preview @@codecraftercc

    • @knyt0
      @knyt0 8 месяцев назад

      mauga needs a rework anyways

  • @SolidForge362
    @SolidForge362 8 месяцев назад +1

    Watching Seagull off angle on Reaper looked fun. Being the other team that spent 20 minutes failing to walk through a choke didn't look fun.

  • @levanoon9286
    @levanoon9286 8 месяцев назад

    24:00 the problem is, team4 fucked up by going for more sustain instead of vulnerability (which was actually in need)

    • @CouchGladiator
      @CouchGladiator 8 месяцев назад

      The "problem" is literally team 4 all the way. They are the issue and the cause to the root problems of Overwatch. Transfer Team 4 to a diffrent project and have a new team that loves OW and will actually listen to the community feedback. Team 4 has consistently proven they are not the right fit for Overwatch.

  • @bassdropyoface
    @bassdropyoface 8 месяцев назад

    well said my friend. hope this message gets through to them.

  • @lucasrasmussen564
    @lucasrasmussen564 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great video!

  • @theredguy92
    @theredguy92 8 месяцев назад +9

    Run it down mid balance is the only balance philosophy team 4 has.

  • @dustinbiester4401
    @dustinbiester4401 8 месяцев назад

    I have over 250 hours on Doomfist and like 20 hours on Rammatra. I stopped playing Doom and started playing Ram bc the only way to get the number of kills and damage on Doom that I do with Ram is if I play flawlessly and make no mistakes... and then I still can't reach those Ram numbers. And that's why I hate this dev team.

  • @iamsin6808
    @iamsin6808 8 месяцев назад +2

    Y’all need to understand the devs main concern is money and player retention. That’s their primary concern. Blizzard has one of the most toxic work environments that kills passion and incentivizes pumping out content via quantity over quality. As a former dev please don’t blame the programmers or devs your issue is with execs and board of directors who plot out our entire schedules so we don’t have time to do everything the top tier player want us to do. We all have jobs and at blizzard theirs is making content people play and spend money on. Just like samito’s job is producing outrage on RUclips over a video game, because it doesn’t play how he wants it to.

    • @iiiriotiii621
      @iiiriotiii621 8 месяцев назад

      incorrect balance consistently over 6 years, constant reluctancy to listen to community advice or even watch the state of the game unfold around them, dlc characters which have powerful denial abilities and literal lying to the community's face. devs have been babied for so long because "the are being forced by evil higher ups ohhh nooo!!" they not only know how to make a good game but they refuse to because its profitable. they have a massive part in ows downfall.
      its almost like people think they have no say. thats just wrong.

    • @Levi_LS
      @Levi_LS 8 месяцев назад +2

      lmao its the devs always has been. Stop justifying these stupid devs

    • @sasorioftheredsand4348
      @sasorioftheredsand4348 8 месяцев назад

      🤦‍♂️

    • @iamsin6808
      @iamsin6808 8 месяцев назад

      @@Levi_LS I’m just explaining how game development works at AAA studios. Where everyone’s time is plotted out for years, and the devs get no say in how to address problems because it has to fit into their schedule. Basically every balance patch or changes is the product of countless hours of unpaid overtime. So remember these are people too!

    • @memesix5440
      @memesix5440 8 месяцев назад

      thats not true though. Do you really think the "higher ups" and corporate share holders are saying "dont nerf suzu" lol? They dont care about the game or its balance. The devs have just been terrible at making their game, and its completely their fault. Has nothing to do with anything but that, ESPECIALLY when you have so many community members and people constantly reminding the devs on the balance. No excuse. No one is saying they arent people. Theyre just very stubborn and foolish people@@iamsin6808

  • @wookieninja8794
    @wookieninja8794 8 месяцев назад

    You can't see Samito but I'm giving you a standing ovation! Exactly what I have been saying since before I found you and now I feel a bit vindicated. Balance and matchmaking is all on the devs but for some reason everyone else will insist BK is the main and only issue.

  • @JumpsOw
    @JumpsOw 8 месяцев назад

    My dream is having Samito in Team 4 at least then they would have someone who knows how to balance their game.

  • @Bloomer_ow
    @Bloomer_ow 8 месяцев назад

    One of the best patch indeed, on the high end of Overwatch with season 4 2017 (post bastion nerfs)

  • @Ras_2k
    @Ras_2k 8 месяцев назад

    genuinely tweaking watching this knowing that i missed out on this patch. i started playing overwatch a few months before ow2 and i hated double shield for just those few months. it pains me to see how this seagull video was almost foreshadowing for how the team was about to fuck everything up

  • @khmatrix
    @khmatrix 8 месяцев назад

    This is a funny watch when the recent Director's Take blog post had Aaron saying how proud the team is taking in all the feedback but... I'm just wondering, who are they listening to?

  • @Primal_Echo
    @Primal_Echo 8 месяцев назад

    I remember being immediately pissed after they patched over that 2020 patch. I stopped playing for a LONG time after that. It may have been OW2 before I played again actually...

  • @babyburch33
    @babyburch33 8 месяцев назад

    I have a few friends that still play OW, but when I saw all of the unnecessary changes and patch updates, I had to hop off the train. I want to have fun. I want to practice and get better but with “Overwatch 3.0” coming out, all I can say to y’all is good luck out there. I honestly lost all signs of hope for the future of Overwatch since the devs don’t learn to observe closely and pause.

  • @carterlindstrom4831
    @carterlindstrom4831 8 месяцев назад +1

    The problem is their pride. They’re not willing to admit they were wrong. And they never will.

  • @kaosll1036
    @kaosll1036 7 месяцев назад

    I did enjoy this game for years, however since all the OW2 shenanigans and dramas that just keep reoccurring constantly, I've kinda given up now and switched to Helldivers 2. I don't see any improvements for OW in the near future, unless they release OW 1 servers again and revert a lot of the old changes where the game was actually enjoyable with team work and skill that was needed to be executed as you mentioned.

  • @Nankaudon-vp9vm
    @Nankaudon-vp9vm 8 месяцев назад +2

    I have pretty high hope about this new update, but still 6v6 better imo

  • @jimmyjab8744
    @jimmyjab8744 8 месяцев назад

    I wish people like samito and some pros were in charge of balance or on the balance team at this point

  • @tajontoms9530
    @tajontoms9530 8 месяцев назад +3

    Your takes are always backed with reason. I’ve been seeing you fight for what you love for 6 years man.

  • @trayq6339
    @trayq6339 8 месяцев назад +2

    As much as it hurts to say, i think its time to just leave overwatch to die. There isnt much of the original, and there is not coming any good updates anytime soon, that was guaranteed by blizard when they made everyone more hp and bigger hitboxes :)

  • @TrappinTrees
    @TrappinTrees 8 месяцев назад

    Samito for president

  • @joshuamalik373
    @joshuamalik373 8 месяцев назад

    samito 100% on point as usual

  • @ElyntMusic
    @ElyntMusic 8 месяцев назад +4

    Team 4 is just too sensitive and holier than thou to take based feedback from debater personality types regardless of how objectively correct it may be. Hot take (and I say this with no malice towards any other public figures/content creators) but I seriously feel like if someone with a more bubbly and softer personality said the same things you're saying maybe Team 4 would listen more..

  • @shaunsimmons
    @shaunsimmons 8 месяцев назад

    “Was Bobby a shitter”? “Yes”

  • @rudyrocks0187
    @rudyrocks0187 8 месяцев назад

    The reason we don’t get 6v6 is the extra interactions make the job of “balancing” for the developers harder and they lazy af