Nah don't mod it; with it's EQ you can make it sound like either a guitar or a bass, which I think is better than having a passive guitar pickup going to an overdrive pedal.
Modding it is worth it. I had mine since launch and finally swapped the pickups and was significantly happier. You can EQ and cut and add stuff to a degree but what you initially capture something is entirely different.
@@Ambitiouz_mindset Fishman Steph carpenters 7 string set. It technically wasn’t wide enough to fill the entire hole I probably could have got the 8s but it does functionally work. Though the I did need to make the pickup routs ever so slightly taller to accommodate these pickups. It’s a little jank but it works. I changed the control layout to a more PRS like style.
@@Return2TheLiving Is there any neck-dive? I want to put regular guitar tuners on one of these but that would be a real chore - I'd only do it if absolutely necessary.
@MGC-1977 Mine doesn't have any problems with neck dive, so that should be fine. As for tuners, bass tuner holes tend to be significantly bigger, so that may present a problem.
I love Bass VI type instruments. But unlike most which are a traditional Jazzmaster style, which I personally don't care for. This one has the much cooler SR bass shape and all the modern features I want. This is 1000% going to be my next guitar purchase. Edit: update, I bought one.
Can you give an update on your experience with it so far? Is it good for other genres that aren’t metal? I’m looking to see what my 2nd bass will be and I wanna make my own music that’s bass driven and this would be perfect.
It would be interesting to see you track some guitar riffs with it and a true baritone guitar, then A/B them on a frequency spectrum and talk about what you think you have to do to the SRC6MS track EQ wise to get it to sound as "guitar" like as possible compared to the baritone. Fully understanding the tone won't be 1:1 due to the differences in construction, etc.
2030s Metalcore: No guitarists left, the guitarists realized they were tuned down so low anyway, it only made logical sense to switch to bass. 2040s Metalcore: All stringed instrument frequencies are in the sub audible range. The bass playing is only felt, not heard.
I've had my SRCM6 for about 6 months out and I absolutely love it. I really dig how it's ready to go for whatever you want to play, and my tastes range from funk (yes, slap too), to metal. You can dial in a variety of tones. I've toyed with upgrades myself. An interesting option I've been playing around is changing the pickups to something like the Aguilar DCBs. I agree that it's a great entry point for Ibanez. If I had an Ibanez guy, I'd suggest now that it has a fanbase to maybe offer a premium version with an Aguilar or Nordstrand pick ups and more color options. Ibanez has some great paints and finishes in their bass range.
I mean basses are also guitars. Bass guitar. For me it's the string spacing, pickups and electronics. And in that respect it's a hybrid. If the string space was bigger I would call it a small scale bass and if it had guitar electronics, I would call it a baritone guitar.
They're not that bad, honestly! I kinda want try try *thicker* strings. There's always the Stringjoy/Kalium angle, but I found out that LaBella makes a Bass VI-adjacent set of flatwounds that I'd love give a try.
Bridge cabe would be my bass... same as Andrews dingwall, mine is tuned to E0 with 170 gauge, but I pitch shift down another step to be in tune with my bands 8 strings in double D standrd tuning lol
@@dreammachine86 It is absolutely audible! It's about the overtones and the speakers you are using. I use Neural DSP Parallax bass plugin for my bass tones and they have never sounded better! I use Audiotechnica ATH-40x headphones and the low end response is amazing. Even live through the PA it sounds killer, same with my IEMs.
I bought this one in january 2023. I installed stainless steel frets by myself and swaped the original Barts (weakest part of the instument imo) to Bartolini´s BC5C-B and BC5C-T, wich made the sound quite denser and consistent. I also changed the finish (which was fine, but not into my taste) to an all-black oil finishing, turning the instrument into a menaceing looking thing. I love string separation and lightness of this thing, and also its capacity to turn between bass to baritone guitar. Now it´s the instrument I always use with the guys.
@@shawnnaderi1800Yes, of course. It was easy because this model has a thin PU finish, you can feel the grain by touching. I used a small electric sand-machine, finishing the process by hand sanding with small grain. For the oil once cleaned and dry, I used one coat of Rubio monocoat black dye, and oiled with one coat of Rubio Monocoat black oil to complete the all-black look properly. Let the instrument dry for 15 days, and ready to rock.
Have you considered reaching out to fishman and seeing if they will do you pickups with a bass voice and guitar voice? Or if not, maybe a guitar bridge pickup and bass neck pickup.
This guitar is so fucking unique! It is so very cool. The fact you can make it a bass and a baritone guitar is just awesome. I don't want you to change it into just a guitar lol
Ughhhhhhh the meshugganhnah goodness 😍😍😍😍 I don’t even know whether to call it a guitar or bass but it looks like so much fun to just jam around with and go heavy af! The closest thing I’ve ever seen to this aside from an extended range instrument is that weird bass/guitar hybrid Wes Boreland from Limp Bizkit uses (think it’s used on The Nookie(what a dumb song but it’s so catchy haha))
I’d love to see a fishman in the bridge and leave the neck pickup. so you could have a guitar bridge pickup and then switch to a bass neck pickup for more versatility. At least that’s something I would love to try.
PLEASE DO IT! I've been wanting to get this guitar for sometime for the purpose of modding the pickups with guitar pickups instead of the stock bass pickups and just turn it into a baritone guitar!
I love a good mod, but your point about making it too similar to your other guitars is a good one. I think this is cool and different enough to leave it stock.
Surely the thing to do is use this in a mix with a Bass and a Guitar as a beefmachine in a meat sandwich where the bread is also meat. So just completely fill and overlap and boost any frequencies that slope off between the bass and guitar in the mix... just roll back the distortion and make it a gluey presence.
i have one of the original ones, not multiscale. It is an interesting instrument. it sounds like a standard guitar through a pitch transposer set to an octave down, but it certainly does not play like a guitar.
The closest axe to this is the Schecter C-VI Hellraiser. It is not (yet?) fan-fret. Until this SRC6MS came back to Ibanez’s lineup, the C-VI was the only 30” scale other than the Bass6. The Schecter is still the only non-bolt neck axe in this size. It is my next axe to purchase.
I remember Ibanez released something similar years ago and I thought it was so silly. Now I think it would make a great baritone guitar option instead of going for something like fender baritone jazzmaster. I still want to see it modded with some fishmans for more of a downtuned guitar sound
If baritone guitars are the bridging gap between bass and guitar, then this is the bridging gap between bass and baritone guitar. That’s far too unique to warrant any of that kind of modding.
Albeit that IS a guitar/bass-ish baritone maybe you could say? I have something similar in the 6 strings bass! B E A D G C killer tone out of both, tuned down.
So i have a question for anyone who has this bass or knows much about it. I own one and need to replace the strings. What is the best strings to get? I have a Show in 12 days and this is the first time switching strings i got the bass back in march.
I love it and don’t at the same time. I feel it sounds a bit out of tune on the higher strings and it was a great riff but it just didn’t hit the right key for me. I feel a true fatty bass is just a must but it’s too “light” to drop that signature bass sound we all know and love. It’s a beautiful guitar 😂
I don't think it makes a HUGE difference either way - but I prefer the feel of multiscale, but if a straight scale guitar has an evertune, that bridge outweighs multiscacle for me.
Do you think a guitar like this, or an 8 string is best for someone with huge hands? Like massive ( 10 inches long and 5,5 inches wide) Or does it not matter? I get so bad cramps from playing guitar, and I've worked with my hand position a bunch, I doubt that's the problem. It's like a regular guitar neck isn't wide enough for my hands to comfortably grip...
I'm no instrument guy by any stretch of the imagination. But could you realistically use just this SRC6MS to play both the guitar and bass tracks of an ERRA track? Fuck, you could probably pull off the Gungrave riff with this beast alone
put a guitar pickup in the bridge and leave the bass pickup in the neck. In my experiences, i think the EMG handles the longer Scale lengths better than Fluences, curious to see what you do with it and your experiences if you try a Fluence or EMG.
Nah dude, why turn this into another baritone that will sound like just another baritone with different looks. Keep it as is, for now, and do few songs or a mini series of covers with this thing doing the bass and guitar part. You can always mod it later, i just think you will get more out of it this way
Dude this guitar really has caught my eye. Andrew you nailed the tones with the II II II II
ottoaudio has been my go to for a good 2 years now . when we getting artists presets?
planning to buy the plugin at some point since I had so much fun with the trial!!
thanks man, glad to hear! @@danieldavidson5447
thanks for saying as much, some are collected, a few to go@@pattol666
Is this comparable to the Bass VI?
Nah don't mod it; with it's EQ you can make it sound like either a guitar or a bass, which I think is better than having a passive guitar pickup going to an overdrive pedal.
Modding it is worth it. I had mine since launch and finally swapped the pickups and was significantly happier. You can EQ and cut and add stuff to a degree but what you initially capture something is entirely different.
@@Return2TheLivingwhat pickups did you get for it? The size of the slot must have been massive
@@Ambitiouz_mindset Fishman Steph carpenters 7 string set. It technically wasn’t wide enough to fill the entire hole I probably could have got the 8s but it does functionally work. Though the I did need to make the pickup routs ever so slightly taller to accommodate these pickups. It’s a little jank but it works. I changed the control layout to a more PRS like style.
@@Return2TheLiving Is there any neck-dive? I want to put regular guitar tuners on one of these but that would be a real chore - I'd only do it if absolutely necessary.
@MGC-1977 Mine doesn't have any problems with neck dive, so that should be fine. As for tuners, bass tuner holes tend to be significantly bigger, so that may present a problem.
Imagine this but with 7 or 8 strings…literally will be a guitar bass hybrid-the guitars scale will look INSANE with its multiscale frets
you can definitely achieve the brown note with this one
This thing is the Djent Stick Pro
I love Bass VI type instruments. But unlike most which are a traditional Jazzmaster style, which I personally don't care for. This one has the much cooler SR bass shape and all the modern features I want. This is 1000% going to be my next guitar purchase.
Edit: update, I bought one.
Can you give an update on your experience with it so far? Is it good for other genres that aren’t metal? I’m looking to see what my 2nd bass will be and I wanna make my own music that’s bass driven and this would be perfect.
@@itzcarbonxd1261 I wouldn't know. I only play metal. But I like it.
@@RainMakeR_Workshop any songs that you've played the most on it thus far?
@@pramusetyakanca1552 I mostly play my own stuff. But I have a weird amount of fun playing old school metalcore on it.
@@RainMakeR_Workshop ay I respect that, man! ❤️ Do you play it as a guitar or as a bass? Or is it a mixture of the two?
It would be interesting to see you track some guitar riffs with it and a true baritone guitar, then A/B them on a frequency spectrum and talk about what you think you have to do to the SRC6MS track EQ wise to get it to sound as "guitar" like as possible compared to the baritone. Fully understanding the tone won't be 1:1 due to the differences in construction, etc.
Dude, I've been eyeing this series for weeks now and you just fucking sold me.
Those tones are perfect
AGREED 😎
love you guys@@OTTOAUDIO
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2030s Metalcore: No guitarists left, the guitarists realized they were tuned down so low anyway, it only made logical sense to switch to bass. 2040s Metalcore: All stringed instrument frequencies are in the sub audible range. The bass playing is only felt, not heard.
I've had my SRCM6 for about 6 months out and I absolutely love it. I really dig how it's ready to go for whatever you want to play, and my tastes range from funk (yes, slap too), to metal. You can dial in a variety of tones. I've toyed with upgrades myself. An interesting option I've been playing around is changing the pickups to something like the Aguilar DCBs. I agree that it's a great entry point for Ibanez. If I had an Ibanez guy, I'd suggest now that it has a fanbase to maybe offer a premium version with an Aguilar or Nordstrand pick ups and more color options. Ibanez has some great paints and finishes in their bass range.
U need some merch that's got "First and Foremost..." written right across the front Baena
Would love a vid on how you dial in the on board EQ for a bass tone and guitar tone. What you cut and what you boost depending on the use scenario.
I second this
I've got the non multiscale version of this and it kicks ass. Drop D down an octave... Yes please
I think now that guitar scale lengths and tunings are regularly in drop E, this qualifies as a guitar.
I mean basses are also guitars. Bass guitar. For me it's the string spacing, pickups and electronics. And in that respect it's a hybrid. If the string space was bigger I would call it a small scale bass and if it had guitar electronics, I would call it a baritone guitar.
The src6 has always been top tier, the older ones are hard to find but this new one looks incredible
Keep the Bartolini pickups and wiring setup. It’s already awesome. 😎
Tuning: Bridge Cable
They're not that bad, honestly!
I kinda want try try *thicker* strings. There's always the Stringjoy/Kalium angle, but I found out that LaBella makes a Bass VI-adjacent set of flatwounds that I'd love give a try.
Bridge cabe would be my bass... same as Andrews dingwall, mine is tuned to E0 with 170 gauge, but I pitch shift down another step to be in tune with my bands 8 strings in double D standrd tuning lol
84 gauge is really not that big honestly. I have a 176 gauge for the lowest string on my 6 string bass. 🤔
@@Wyatt.D.Loiselle Is that even within the human audible range?!
@@dreammachine86 It is absolutely audible! It's about the overtones and the speakers you are using. I use Neural DSP Parallax bass plugin for my bass tones and they have never sounded better! I use Audiotechnica ATH-40x headphones and the low end response is amazing. Even live through the PA it sounds killer, same with my IEMs.
Yeah you make a good point... I just took my Ibanez bass and played doom eternal... okay wow! that was actually really easy... Chunky but easy!
Instead of a mod try a Schecter C VI bariton Diamond Series 30"
I bought this one in january 2023.
I installed stainless steel frets by myself and swaped the original Barts (weakest part of the instument imo) to Bartolini´s BC5C-B and BC5C-T, wich made the sound quite denser and consistent.
I also changed the finish (which was fine, but not into my taste) to an all-black oil finishing, turning the instrument into a menaceing looking thing.
I love string separation and lightness of this thing, and also its capacity to turn between bass to baritone guitar.
Now it´s the instrument I always use with the guys.
hi did you have to strip the existing finish first ?
@@shawnnaderi1800Yes, of course. It was easy because this model has a thin PU finish, you can feel the grain by touching. I used a small electric sand-machine, finishing the process by hand sanding with small grain. For the oil once cleaned and dry, I used one coat of Rubio monocoat black dye, and oiled with one coat of Rubio Monocoat black oil to complete the all-black look properly. Let the instrument dry for 15 days, and ready to rock.
That song will never get old.
Have you considered reaching out to fishman and seeing if they will do you pickups with a bass voice and guitar voice? Or if not, maybe a guitar bridge pickup and bass neck pickup.
My thoughts exactly!
Dang 84 for a stock gauge is crazy on a guitar like this. My squire comes with .100s and I restrung it with .90s for double drop C/B
Hell yea! I love rational gaze. Perfect way to start the vid, dad!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
This guitar is so fucking unique! It is so very cool. The fact you can make it a bass and a baritone guitar is just awesome. I don't want you to change it into just a guitar lol
Dude! I tried to tell you on your last video. In passive mode the treble knob becomes a tone knob. You gotta max the tone knob in passive mode!
I absolutely need this. ❤
Dude mod this with a BKP impulse in the bridge, heard someone do a similar mod on that gretsch baritone and it sounded unbelievable
I am intrigued
It’s sounds amazing! But I really have to ask, did you try any leads on this? I’m really wondering how this would sound playing some leads on it..
The demo song has an entire solo haha
@@BaenaCarcosa no I mean more of the shredding style..not that meshuggah lead. legatos.. arpeggios..I’m really curious how it would sound on that..
Ughhhhhhh the meshugganhnah goodness 😍😍😍😍 I don’t even know whether to call it a guitar or bass but it looks like so much fun to just jam around with and go heavy af! The closest thing I’ve ever seen to this aside from an extended range instrument is that weird bass/guitar hybrid Wes Boreland from Limp Bizkit uses (think it’s used on The Nookie(what a dumb song but it’s so catchy haha))
Just ordered one. Wonder how it would sound with a darkglass preamp as well.
I think this is one of the coolest (bass) Guitars I've seen.. I would totally buy it.
I’d love to see a fishman in the bridge and leave the neck pickup. so you could have a guitar bridge pickup and then switch to a bass neck pickup for more versatility. At least that’s something I would love to try.
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It's definitely more of a bass than a baritone guitar but you can still do some really cool stuff with it
PLEASE DO IT! I've been wanting to get this guitar for sometime for the purpose of modding the pickups with guitar pickups instead of the stock bass pickups and just turn it into a baritone guitar!
I love a good mod, but your point about making it too similar to your other guitars is a good one. I think this is cool and different enough to leave it stock.
Surely the thing to do is use this in a mix with a Bass and a Guitar as a beefmachine in a meat sandwich where the bread is also meat. So just completely fill and overlap and boost any frequencies that slope off between the bass and guitar in the mix... just roll back the distortion and make it a gluey presence.
This thing slaps! Quite enjoyable, feels like a standard baritone,and also ain't that expensive
I like it, and the bass option is cool. So 2 in 1 interesting.
Man, imagine a bit longer and 7 string version in drop A0 oof. But yeah also very neat with that active EQ on it.
There are src7 out there, very few made. 30" scale.
Oh yeah I've seen it actually.New one would be dope like this@@christopherdamron269
No need for A0.
Guitar perfect for metal funk
i have one of the original ones, not multiscale. It is an interesting instrument. it sounds like a standard guitar through a pitch transposer set to an octave down, but it certainly does not play like a guitar.
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The closest axe to this is the Schecter C-VI Hellraiser. It is not (yet?) fan-fret. Until this SRC6MS came back to Ibanez’s lineup, the C-VI was the only 30” scale other than the Bass6. The Schecter is still the only non-bolt neck axe in this size. It is my next axe to purchase.
I remember Ibanez released something similar years ago and I thought it was so silly. Now I think it would make a great baritone guitar option instead of going for something like fender baritone jazzmaster. I still want to see it modded with some fishmans for more of a downtuned guitar sound
rational gaze solo is so goofy and i love it
If baritone guitars are the bridging gap between bass and guitar, then this is the bridging gap between bass and baritone guitar. That’s far too unique to warrant any of that kind of modding.
Thats pretty sick 🤘🏻
Been wanting an SRC6MS for a while.
If you do mod it I dare you to play it live for a set...
Would definitely like to see how you can mod it to be mainly a guitar for super low tunings but that’s mostly because of what I’d want it for
technically speaking, it's a bass-guitar crossover.
Is there a left handed option?
How about some clean tone? Love this thing. What a great and crazy instrument!
Albeit that IS a guitar/bass-ish baritone maybe you could say? I have something similar in the 6 strings bass! B E A D G C killer tone out of both, tuned down.
it's pretty cool tbf
Damn that sounds killer
Can we see some hlb with this
Guitar or Bass? Yes.
i need it
So i have a question for anyone who has this bass or knows much about it. I own one and need to replace the strings. What is the best strings to get? I have a Show in 12 days and this is the first time switching strings i got the bass back in march.
It gets to a point with this thing where the overtones are as loud as the actual note lmao
Custom pickups for a better definition, alltrough is perfect
Where do you buy strings to put on this?
I love it and don’t at the same time. I feel it sounds a bit out of tune on the higher strings and it was a great riff but it just didn’t hit the right key for me. I feel a true fatty bass is just a must but it’s too “light” to drop that signature bass sound we all know and love. It’s a beautiful guitar 😂
So what is easier for you, multiscale or regular? I know you have guitars of both kinds.
I don't think it makes a HUGE difference either way - but I prefer the feel of multiscale, but if a straight scale guitar has an evertune, that bridge outweighs multiscacle for me.
Bro it would be super dope if you replaced the BH2 pickups with some BK Stockholm 90’s or even some Nail Bombs.
Edit** keep the EQ
Do you think a guitar like this, or an 8 string is best for someone with huge hands? Like massive ( 10 inches long and 5,5 inches wide) Or does it not matter? I get so bad cramps from playing guitar, and I've worked with my hand position a bunch, I doubt that's the problem. It's like a regular guitar neck isn't wide enough for my hands to comfortably grip...
Are you like, 8-9ft tall or somn?
@@Coles-bootleg-vids hahah close but not that tall, but I am close to 7 x)
@@sebben13 Ah, I can see why having a tiny slab of wood would be uncomfortable, like the inverse of when I hold a gibson made guitar.
i been wanting one for good year now but they dont make lefty as far a s i know
great
So do I plug it in to a guitar amp our bass amp ? I do t use plugin , any advice
Yes.
So could this guitar get down to Drop C1 ?
Oh yeah. It's possible
yeah but will it hold Drop C1 goodl?
i want one bad
I'm no instrument guy by any stretch of the imagination. But could you realistically use just this SRC6MS to play both the guitar and bass tracks of an ERRA track? Fuck, you could probably pull off the Gungrave riff with this beast alone
I think the Schecter VI is better, personally. I love mine. Super fun to play
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damn ...thats gorg...
Sneaky 😗
put a guitar pickup in the bridge and leave the bass pickup in the neck. In my experiences, i think the EMG handles the longer Scale lengths better than Fluences, curious to see what you do with it and your experiences if you try a Fluence or EMG.
Don’t mod it! Maybe paint the body, or dye it green?
I think this thing kick’s exactly the way it is
Imagine cliff burton used this
Leave it alone. Don't change anything
the summoning by Sleep Token would sound pretty good on that guitar or at least 3/4 of the song
it's definitely better for low tuned metal, cause the higher notes sound kinda goofy
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Ah yes, the ultimate LOATHE riff machine
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Guitar or bass? Yes. The answer is yes.
also In my head canon, this was always the tuning.
those "high" notes sound awful but haunting as well
Baena? Talking about string gauges??? THIS IS AN IMPOSTOR! Someone's replaced him
Keep it as is in my opinion, i mean you have alot of baritones etc so why not have something different
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It's a short scale bass, but they made it like that so biased guitarists can play it and say "xd 6 strings this isn't bass xd"
Nah dude, why turn this into another baritone that will sound like just another baritone with different looks. Keep it as is, for now, and do few songs or a mini series of covers with this thing doing the bass and guitar part. You can always mod it later, i just think you will get more out of it this way
0:59 I thought that was a child's voice
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